That sounds like the description of every nondescript can that fills out on an actually talented fighter's record from before they became widely known. Best part about BBTag is it gives me the chance to treat them like exactly that XD
I think the implication is the main game dungeons was their training, idk. There's also cases like Kanji, Chie and Naoto who would have expertise in fighting somewhat already anyway
"Chie doesn't actually know kung fu. She just watches a bunch of kung fu movies and then goes to the park to do backflips and flying kicks." *_N E E D T O M B O Y_*
@@Ihavenolifeorvideos Ah, yes, "Glove on Fight". For when a team wants to make a fighting game so bad that they don't even bother to change the temp-title they were using using during development. Adorable game.
I've come to appreciate Chie design and character wise after hearing what Lead Game Artist Shigenori Soejima had to say about her: “The concept for Chie’s design was ‘a cute girl who could actually exist in real life.’. Trying to design a game character who seems like someone you could meet in real life meant I needed to pay close attention to her appearance. The hardest part was probably getting the right balance between her features like her creased double eyelids set over appealingly large eyes, and her slightly duck-like mouth. Another tricky balancing act was the shape of her head, as it couldn’t be too long or too round. Once I had the shape of her head the way I wanted it, I still had to figure out how to put her hair on it. I was so picky that I convinced myself that I needed to rework her design quite a few times. One of the things that defines Chie as a character is her love of cheap, retro things like pins and other accessories. In some ways, Chie was the turning point that defined the overall design flavor of the entire game. I wanted to exaggerate the fact that the story takes place in a rural town, and one of the best ways to do that is to have someone running around in a jersey jacket. Unfortunately, the colors of a school jersey just didn’t look very nice within the context of the game, so I had to think of something else. That’s when I decided to try taking a retro-style approach to Chie’s jersey. That was a real light bulb moment for me, when I realized that anytime I needed to put something ‘utterly lame’ in to bring out the rural vibe, I could add a retro flavor to it to make it cool and in sync with the game’s atmosphere. This is how Chie single-handedly set the design foundation for the rest of the game. For this reason, I think it’s quite fair to say that Chie Satonaka truly embodies the identity of ‘Persona 4’, which may be why the game’s theme color (yellow) looks so darn good on her.” “Chie pays an average amount of attention to her fashion, and she dyes her hair. In order to preserve a certain level of believability, all of the characters in 'Persona 4’ were given relatively natural hair colors that you would expect to see regularly in real life.” -Soejima, Persona 4: Official Design Works 2012
I really hope that a P5 Arena happens. The P4 cast would have such fun and eccentric timeskip designs. Also if they go down the "Police Officer Chie" path, you could have some fun Chun-Li references in her moveset and animations as well!
Hmm... Yosuke would probably be in some kind of business suit, since he'd probably get some kind of managerial position at Junes. Not because of nepotism though. He'd probably be one of the most experienced members of the staff considering he's been working since highschool at the place. Wait.... Business suit. Dorky personality. Often the butt of a joke. Did Yosuke grow up to be Adachi, minus the sociopathy? XD We already know to a certain extent how Naoto and Rise changed over the years due to Naoto's spin-off, if Atlus decides if they want to keep it canon. I'm probably the most curious about Kanji's new look.
@@Birthday888 That is actually fascinating as Yosuke's initial reasoning behind going into the TV world were not all that different from Adachi personal world view. Gosh imagine if Adachi got to Yosuke first
They actually do bring that up, so it'd be hype. Yu just becomes Phoenix Wright though. Probably reaching, but I could totally see Yu becoming some sort of detective or possibly taking up a line of work with Dojima, I think his personality would let him get through interrogations and the like pretty easily, not through COLD HARD FACTS(tm) but because he'd just be able to get people to talk by likely being himself, I think it's pretty interesting to think about what the P3 and 4 gangs might've been up to for the ones that were available during 5, and the thought of Narukami and probably Naoto too catching onto what's going on with the Phantom Thieves but being way too far out to provide any actual assistance directly is pretty cool.
While not in the ultimax games, I always liked Shinji's battle animations. Out of battle he is slouched and always has his hands in his pockets, but in battle, he stands firm and confidant and you can see his full towering height (5'10 which is huge for a Japanese male). He also is terminally ill from medication which is factored in his animations. When he misses a melee attack, he'll drop to his knees, put his hand on his mouth and cough and stumble. All the other characters just fall or miss, but Shinji is different with his illness causing him to miss. He also wields heavy weapons, such as an axe and even a stop sign, which he shouldn't be carrying since he's sick, which shows his more stubborn side as he doesn't want to be perceived as weak. His sickness is even more noticeable in the dancing games. Shinji's dance is stiff and restricted and can't pull off moves like his teammates can. Poor guy even falls multiple times mid dance and struggles to catch his breath. What's great about these animations is his illness isn't discussed until later after he joins the party, which means you saw his animations already and suspected he wasn't all healthy. Also take note of his appearance. He wears a beanie and heavy peacoat. Because of his harsh personality, you'd think its just his style. But when you hear about his illness, its explained that his body temperature doesn't regulate and needs warm clothing on all the time. Persona 3 legit made a terminally ill character work in battle flawlessly
Chie is the best character from the game. Sorely underrated for some reason, but out of everyone, she's the most earnest, honest, and upfront of the entire cast. Her problems aren't complex or world shattering. She isnt struggling with being transgender or gay in japan. She doesnt have a family legacy to maintain. She's a boyish girl who wants someone to call her pretty just once. And thats so incredibly normal and mundane it stands out in a universe with gods, robots, spirit bears, and talking cat cars.
@@danaltamirano2546 The complete lack of reading comprehension you have to have to look at Kanji's entire arc and come away with "hes not gay" is astounding. I know the English translation was told to tone the gay down by Altus but come on man. His shadow is literally repressed homosexuality.
@@TheGreatDanish It´s not repressed homosexuality, you didn´t get it. The problem with Naoto is not that she wants to be a man, is that she thinks women are not suited or treat equally in a lot of jobs (which is true) plus the idea of the "perfect detective" being a man. Sherlock, basically. If anything, what Naoto ended up wanting is to accept herself and start to make a wave within her own dream. Kanji is not gay. He started to think he was because neither girls wanted to be around him (due to him looking like a punk) and boys were also scared, but he have this whole "feminine" hobby that puts him in a situation where his sexuality is confronted. His whole channel is him thinking "well, maybe I´m gay" but his own SL shows that in the end is okay to be a man without having to imitate a delinquent, or a macho.
I somehow completely forgot that Chie's idea of "training," is just... playing pretend power rangers in the park.. Great video, you made this fellow Chie main happy!
Well.... even without a master she’s able to do high tier kicks smoothly. It’s obviously just an hobby but you should never lessen how far self-education can lead you.
@@edwardsuou I agree. I mean, take someone like Shaina West: she's a self-taught martial artist, and now, she's a top tier stunt performer breaking boundaries. Also note that she draws inspiration from her love for anime, Japanese culture, motorbikes, samurai, and her profession as a personal trainer to become who she is now. And she did all that after a bad motorcycle accident. So for Chie, she could go a long way if she applies herself enough.
TBH, when i saw her for the first time, i instantly fell in love on her. her attack animation is reflected in her personality. when she's about to make a specific animation (or critical hit), she often do a warm-up (or stretching?), that's the prove that she knows she's not a real martial artist, and if she didn't do that she will place unnecessary stress on her heart, lungs, and muscle. (this is what google says) BTW, i wish they would port Persona 4 Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold to PC
I miss Ultimax so much. I used to play it bunch with my 1 other Persona-loving friend and it was fun at any skill level. I hope we see all those characters again one day in a Persona 5 Arena.
@@professordetective807 Yeah, I enjoyed Cross Tag. Still have my fingers crossed to see a game with them interacting with the P5 cast (and if I'm really lucky, with their ultimate Personas).
Reminds me of the time Ann said that she never used a whip before, but somehow was just really good with it for one of the random Mementos talks. The developers knew how difficult it would be to write it in how a group of random teens got together and are all some how good at fighting, so they threw in this random explanation that they can only fight and move like this in the other world.
I think Ryuji is another example of what you're talking about. If he ran around outside of the metaverse like he does in it, he would probably exacerbate his leg injury possibly to the point of being unable to even walk properly. Okay, they do try to play this up for drama much later in the game, but still.
Great vid and spot on. I'd also add that Chie is clearly having the time of her life doing all of this. There is just this childlike joy in everything she does from her eager idle stance to her grinning and turning away when Tomoe brings down the Godhand. Out of all the P4 cast she is clearly the one who enjoys fighting the most.
I've always loved how bouncy Chie was even before I ever knew what a persona was. She's probably the whole reason why I'm such an advant persona fan nowadays. The way she dances and fight really encapsulates her spunkiness and I just simply love that. Major props to the animation team for making such great animations for characters.
Persona 4 Arena was one of my favorite fighting games I played, I played so much of that game that I could play every character in the roster with a basic understanding of their combos, type match ups, their mix-up game, and how to defeat them. I spent a lot of time playing Persona 4 Arena to know all of this, but it did introduce me to the Persona series so I'm thankful for that.
Love the video. But Persona games, at least the later ones, always brings out the Waifu Wars in the comments. "We lost a lot of good people in the Waifu Wars" - Super Butter Buns.
I felt in love with her since de 1st time I saw her because I was a Kung Fu movies addicted by the time I've played, so I identified with her SO MUCH it scared me! I love her strength, positivity and humor, she rocks her short hair and doesnt hide what she likes because its not considered "feminine". Shes the best 💚💚💚
>doesnt hide what she likes because its not considered "feminine" She does pretty much exactly that, even if it was toned down in the English localisation. She's actually got a lot of internalised sexism.
I always love when you can watch a character in action and realize that they're self-taught, like they cobbled together their fighting style based on some surface-level ideas they had, and they just happen to be talented enough or work hard enough to make such a style viable. Shinada from Yakuza 5 is like this as well, he just fights like a street punk with a slight lean on some of his moves looking like sports attacks, like his football tackle; but then he also has very specific tendencies that make it clear he learned how to do these things by watching pro wrestling matches on TV and trying to emulate it. In fact, a lot of the yakuza games do a good job of making it believable that someone without proper training could be as strong as they are in combat, where strong characters may not have the proper form or stance, but they have plenty of muscle strength and endurance, flexibility, the reaction speed to make reasonable decisions at light speed, and the ability to think on the fly and use their environment. An example I like to think of is the mountain and viper in game of thrones, the guy with the mastery of his form isn't necessarily the stronger fighter against a big dude with basic but well oiled fighting instincts and speed. In any real fight, there's no perfect bulletproof plan; if you eat a bad hit, you can get knocked flat in an instant. Just because the opponent is "less skilled" or less proper in their practice doesn't mean they aren't dangerous. All that being said, I don't know if I can attribute this level of intrinsic meaning to the animation of Arena. Arena and all the other P4 spinoffs and remake were made by a B team at Atlus with none of the core creative staff or writers the original had, and it really shows in some pretty stark contradictions in characterization, basic theming, and overall writing quality. I highly doubt anyone in charge on Arena was, like, aware of this symbolic idea in Persona 4 and decided to express it in this game in a subtle manner. They literally write her entire character into meat girl for that game. The original already expressed that one's physical power is related to their heart and persona through the use of stats which are directly correlated with the persona, not the actual human, and because even if a human has weapons, they are physically incapable of fighting shadows until they get a persona, meaning it was always the persona's power that let them fight through whatever means they chose.
The way you describe a self-taught fighter, reminds me of Travis Touchdown, especially now that I remember, like Chie, he learned all his swordplay and wrestling from watching VHSes.
One of my favorite interactions in all of fighting games comes from Blazblue Cross Tag Battle where Azrael meets Chie, sees her throwing out wild un-trained kung fu moves that still work and coming to the conclusion that this teenage tomboy from rural japan is doing the same thing he is. Holding back and throwing out obvious attacks with poor form to make fights last longer and get more fun out of it. Azrael, the Mad Dog, The Canibal, the guy in Blazblue who's entire gimmick is being so physically strong he can toss magical gods around takes one look at Chie and thinks, "This girl gets it." Chie is disturbed by this, especially when hearing her fighting game exclusive title makes him double down on his read of her.
This is a fantastic video, I don't want to sound greedy but I honestly would have killed for more examples but it's still great. I never realized this about P4AU's animation, and you couldn't have picked a better example. A great way to communicate Persona's ideas in a fighting game. Pointing out how Tomoe actually launches Chie for her Dragon Kick and how that literally turns her fake kung fu into something threatening via the power of Persona is a great way to get the ideas across.
I actually have the P4A Official Design Works book. It's really neat the decisions that went into fleshing out the characters from the ArcSys side and what Atlus would and wouldn't let them do. In regards to Chie, some of the notes in the sprite animations mention details like Chie being off-balance during some of her moves, so it definitely plays to your analysis. After all this time, Persona 4 Arena (Ultimax) is still one of my favorite fighting games! ^^ (Yukiko Main)
I just love the easter egg in Persona 5 implying that Akihiko ended up becoming a cop while Chie followed not too far behind and was at the academy during the course of the game. IF those two ever get a buddy cop spinoff it would be hilariously bad for all of Japan's protein.
just a small correction, in P1, Ayase use a whip and Yukino use razor blades in P2 not every character uses guns, and three characters use really specific weapons, Jun use Flowers, Eikichi use Guitar Cases and Baofu use Coins anyway great video
on the weapons P4 cast picks, I remember there is implications that since they feel confident and more familiar with the weapons they picked, they actually can damage the foes in TV realm (no doubted aided b y their called out personas), Like the first scene when they pick weapons, they pick what feels right to them. Kanji, as probably the only guy with real fighting experience considering his history, is gonna be condifent with pretty much anything.. so.. he basically grabbed a chair. Chie, I say she has kung fu skils, just unrefined and lacking control. She always looks like she is putting her whole body into wild spiral when kicking.
That's like making a fighting game out of a visual novel. Me: starts giggling. Uhhhh... that's like trying to make a fighting game out of a musical. Me: Starts laughing even harder.
For decades Personas bolster their users vitality and strength setting them apart from humans without them. Once a contract is formed, a Persona's affinities, weaknesses, and resistances are all inherited. Despite Chie's Kung Fu being 'fake' her Persona's attributes give her moves real power. However, one thing a Persona cannot give to their user (at least to my knowledge) is _technique._ The fact that Chie practiced and mimicked what she saw in movies is all on her. Her technique coupled with the enhancement from her Persona give her what she needs to hit like a truck.
While i loved the animation done by every character in arena, what sold me was what they did with yosuke's character and the implied backslide as well as growth he underwent durring his own story, to the point where I see his story as the most canonically possible in the arena storyline. I'd love it if you did an abitorial on yosuke to pair with adachi's
Your explanation of why the Persona 4 characters' odd, cobbled-together arsenal actually does anything really recontextualized a lot of those weapon choices for me. Especially in Adachi's case: he's an egotistical bastard, so he probably thinks anything he does will work, even if it's his bizzare pistol-whipping and noodley-looking kicks.
It really does make me wonder the kinds of interactions she would have with Akihiko if their interactions did expand out further than just Arena. You have someone who has basically devoted himself to the Art of Boxing (and protein). He chose the sport because, “I know what it’s like to be powerless,” and becomes so proficient, he can apparently dodge bullets (or in his case, he knows about avoiding being targeted. Can’t imagine why he would learn that, can you? /s). Part of me feels like that conversation (if expanded on) would seemingly go two ways. The first would be an embrace of following your passion. The other is to probably get that formal training so that the king fu would not only be what it should, but so that she can be even stronger for it. That and I wonder if our protein loving fighter would look at Chie’s Kung Fu and call it that. Within the setting of Persona 4 (and by extent, Arena), it is as genuine as Chie makes it. But in the real world, it would be interesting to see if he would still think that or not. Either way, the Persona fighting game was definitely a stroke of genius. Out of everything we’ve gotten from Persona 5, it is a bit of a shocker that we haven’t seen “Persona 5 Arena” yet (or even something as simple as “Joker Joins Blazblue Cross Tag!”).
Sad no mention or even passing acknowledgement that Persona 2 exist with it's all adult cast and some odd weapon choices. I mean, one uses flowers and another uses coins.
Oh I love this. This series your working on. The amount of attention you are paying to the little details, and then bringing them forward. Bringing a microscope to something as tiny, but as carefully designed, as some animations in a spin off fighting game. This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. Please keep up the amazing work!
Theres a base for your idea about weaponry and combat in the Persona 4 being more about the belief and inner strength than literal firepower. In Persona 3 the guns they use to evoke their Persona aren't ACTUAL guns but the characters have to believe they are and believe in what they're doing when they press that barrel to their head and pull the trigger to summon their Persona. In 5 again the guns aren't ACTUAL guns because where the hell are you going to find real guns in JAPAN, they're airsoft, but they're convincing enough that the demons can see them and believe they are dangerous making them so. At least this is how I remember it. They never spend a lot of time on these points.
I was kinda hoping you'd go into a little bit of discussion of why she works and Rufus from Street Fighter doesn't even tho they're both "kung fu fighters" who just imitate stuff they saw in movies.
I never played P4G, but she seems like a relateable character since I like to do kicks and punches when I'm alone in the house and I too think steak is the best meat besides fajita. I also never considered until now how fighting games design characters vs JRPGS, visual novels, etc.
This was an absolutely fantastic video! I'm totally gonna binge all your P4 videos now because I'm curious to see how you discuss the other characters!
This idea seems further expanded in P5, where all characters seem to wield glorified toys as weapons in the worlds of mementos and the palaces... The bullets and blades are purely an expression of their own willpower and rebellion... SYMBOLISM!!!
Sure, she has absolutely no actual martial arts training, and is only copying moves she sees in the movies, but I've never seen somebody so willing to square up for literally anybody. Even perfect strangers should feel perfectly safe when they see that stylistic green jacket, almost like seeing Superman's cape. If she took actual martial arts classes, along with her dogged determination and willingness to throw down for her loved ones, she could legitimately be one of the most powerful martial artists in the world.
it's nice how you actually have gameplay from a lot of fighting games hardly anyone would know of. blade arcus doesnt even have a mizuumi, and there was one or 2 i didnt recognize. in actuality. kung fu literally just translates into hard work, and just is an umbrella term for martial arts in chinese. so you can easily say chie practice kung fu, in a literal sense. what ever she practices is definitely not less effective than a lot of modern wushu stuff from a realistic perspective. and either way galactic punt is impressive. i always thought of chie as the most impressive p4u character since she only needs to kick people, while everyone else need weapons
Beautiful.... I love watching these videos because these educates me about the small detailing and storytelling artists puts in characters from their character designs, moves and interactions
It's worth mentioning that "the Persona 4 heroes' weapons work because they correspond to how each of them defines strength" is a similar reason to why the Phantom Thieves' weapons work in Persona 5, but in reverse. In P5, the weapons on hand are highly-realistic model guns and rubber knives (and in one case, _literal_ children's toys) that are relatively harmless, but to an outsider they _look_ real and so the cognitive world of the Metaverse treats them like they are.
I mean the area inside of metaverse is the inner cognitive of a person making it their own reality so whatever they deem as realistic enough will become the real deal there. while the tv world is something a kin to a relfection world where the one that watch or enter it is the one that judge wether or not it is the truth making the character the one to choose. Works the same but pretty different i guess tv world and tartarus is kinda the same tho
Chie is best girl in all of Persona. The animation in the fighting games is fantastic, and I even own the book describing their key frames as the designers give notes on how to inform the character's personality. Chie swings too hard and with poor form, so she keeps having to catch herself from falling over if you watch the full animations. It's great stuff. Now here the kicker, P4 Arena was my first experience with Persona as a whole, before going back and starting at the beginning, P3FES, at the suggestion of my friend who showed it to me. I picked Chie from her design and animations alone, and its fitting that she's rushdown. It's doubly amazing considering that when I actually got to P4G, Chie became my waifu, and that's after knowing everything about the character. The fact that P4 Arena's animations sold me on her character before I otherwise knew what she was about as a character is a testimate to how well they captured the essence of the cast of P4 as well as P3. Also, watching the menus of P4 Arena before playing the base games was so confusing I'll never forever it. Confusing in an intriguing way. "Okay, we're going into a TV, there's a guy with a long nose dealing out cards, there's a talking teddie bear, and also some of the older fighters are regularly shooting themselves in the head for some reason. Seems cool, and I *need* to know what's going on here." Lol great into to the series.
There are a lot of issues I have with Chie's character outside of her SLs and combat, but as someone who also grew up on Bruce Lee movies and the like, I absolutely love her combat motif, and ever since getting Arena Ultimax I've really enjoyed playing as her (although Yukiko is still my preferred playstyle). I think you absolutely hit the nail on the head regarding how Arena handles how each character works and WHY it works.
As soon as I saw the title, I knew the contents. I never actually played Persona 4, but played a lot of the fighting games. Chie was my favourite character, and the animation was part of it. Great break down of it 👌🏼
It is especially noticable when you contrast her to Akihiko who is a trained boxer. His moves are quick, precise and calculated, but lack the explosive forward momentum that Chie can do.
Another way to tell how Chie is visually not a trained fighter is comparing her idol stance to the other hand to hand fighters in Bbtag Akihiko and Akatsuki both use accurate boxing and karate stances respectively and are clearly very well trained Yang and Makoto both use more fictional stances, with Makoto particularly bouncing with energy, but they both have a clear amount of guard up Even Naoto Kurogane, who fights very wildly and seemingly also self taught, has a visible guard up and looks balanced on his feet But Chie has none of this and is instead just bouncing enthusiastically on the spot, because she's not thinking about having to guard and instead is just going with the flow
as someone who got super late into persona series, i'm still awaiting persona 5 arena, i'm also sad to have missed out on persona 4 characters in an FG
Video on P4 arena in 2021 fantastic! I would love if you would do a video on Yu I wanna see how his blank slate translated to a fighting game from someone who is versed in the medium
"they're all teenagers except *same ol new age mascot characters" Don't forget that one time the whole cast was nothing but 20-30 somethings. And the ninja dog that one other time.
P4 crew: Not trained, not experienced, not armed to the teeth...Just sheer will and grit to scrap with anyone.
A real tribute to the power of youthful determination.
P4 is the best crew. Straight gangsta
That sounds like the description of every nondescript can that fills out on an actually talented fighter's record from before they became widely known. Best part about BBTag is it gives me the chance to treat them like exactly that XD
Chie and Kanji will throw hands on sight
I think the implication is the main game dungeons was their training, idk. There's also cases like Kanji, Chie and Naoto who would have expertise in fighting somewhat already anyway
Yukiko: Elegance and grace are my strengths.
Kanji: CHAIR GO THWACK
GETBENTGETBENTGETBENT!
Kanji saw people using bats that go "bonk" and said "I can do that, but even louder"
Thwackity thwack. Don't talk back! 😋😂
Thats the perfect way of putting it
what's kanji's favorite Dragon Quest spell?
THWACK
"Except for the robot, the bear mascot, and the talking cat"
*Koromaru (a literal dog) whines sadly in the distance*
Well, he's just a dog. He doesn't even talk.
But he is best boy
dogs are real?
@@HellNutcase Do dogs throw sick flips while armed with bladed weapons often where you're from?
@@enumaelish9193 Yeah. I even fought him multiple times. Called Sif. Ever heard of him?
"Chie doesn't actually know kung fu. She just watches a bunch of kung fu movies and then goes to the park to do backflips and flying kicks."
*_N E E D T O M B O Y_*
Definitely need
Tomboy squad roll out
I have a mighty need indeed
I heard “make a fighting game out of a visual novel” and was surprised that Melty Blood wasn’t the only one to do that!
Queen of Heart, Glove on Fight, Eternal Fighter Zero
Doujinsoft circles used to just go at it
visual novel fighting games go WAY back, Tokimeki taisen was in 97 before even guilty gear was around
@@Ihavenolifeorvideos Ah, yes, "Glove on Fight". For when a team wants to make a fighting game so bad that they don't even bother to change the temp-title they were using using during development.
Adorable game.
@@novikovPrinciple literally a game created for testing purposes for melty blood's development
Shout outs to nitroplus blasterz for making a fighting game out of many visual novels
Imagine being bad at kung fu
This is brought to you by the chie gang
Imagine not knowing how to read
This is brought to you by the Naoto Society
Imagine liking girls
This is brought to you by the Kanji gang.
@@KentzHodiono he actuady does like girls. If anything he might be bi. Dont quote me on that
Imagine being a good person
This is brought to you by the Adachi clan
@@jeppyjep. I just started persona but isn't he the cop thatvhelps uncle.
I've come to appreciate Chie design and character wise after hearing what Lead Game Artist Shigenori Soejima had to say about her:
“The concept for Chie’s design was ‘a cute girl who could actually exist in real life.’. Trying to design a game character who seems like someone you could meet in real life meant I needed to pay close attention to her appearance.
The hardest part was probably getting the right balance between her features like her creased double eyelids set over appealingly large eyes, and her slightly duck-like mouth.
Another tricky balancing act was the shape of her head, as it couldn’t be too long or too round.
Once I had the shape of her head the way I wanted it, I still had to figure out how to put her hair on it. I was so picky that I convinced myself that I needed to rework her design quite a few times.
One of the things that defines Chie as a character is her love of cheap, retro things like pins and other accessories.
In some ways, Chie was the turning point that defined the overall design flavor of the entire game.
I wanted to exaggerate the fact that the story takes place in a rural town, and one of the best ways to do that is to have someone running around in a jersey jacket.
Unfortunately, the colors of a school jersey just didn’t look very nice within the context of the game, so I had to think of something else. That’s when I decided to try taking a retro-style approach to Chie’s jersey.
That was a real light bulb moment for me, when I realized that anytime I needed to put something ‘utterly lame’ in to bring out the rural vibe, I could add a retro flavor to it to make it cool and in sync with the game’s atmosphere.
This is how Chie single-handedly set the design foundation for the rest of the game. For this reason, I think it’s quite fair to say that Chie Satonaka truly embodies the identity of ‘Persona 4’, which may be why the game’s theme color (yellow) looks so darn good on her.”
“Chie pays an average amount of attention to her fashion, and she dyes her hair. In order to preserve a certain level of believability, all of the characters in 'Persona 4’ were given relatively natural hair colors that you would expect to see regularly in real life.”
-Soejima, Persona 4: Official Design Works 2012
I really hope that a P5 Arena happens. The P4 cast would have such fun and eccentric timeskip designs. Also if they go down the "Police Officer Chie" path, you could have some fun Chun-Li references in her moveset and animations as well!
I want jail Adachi in a prisoner uniform with his hands cuffed, but he still kicks ass like Cody.
Hmm... Yosuke would probably be in some kind of business suit, since he'd probably get some kind of managerial position at Junes. Not because of nepotism though. He'd probably be one of the most experienced members of the staff considering he's been working since highschool at the place.
Wait.... Business suit. Dorky personality. Often the butt of a joke. Did Yosuke grow up to be Adachi, minus the sociopathy? XD
We already know to a certain extent how Naoto and Rise changed over the years due to Naoto's spin-off, if Atlus decides if they want to keep it canon. I'm probably the most curious about Kanji's new look.
@@Birthday888 That is actually fascinating as Yosuke's initial reasoning behind going into the TV world were not all that different from Adachi personal world view. Gosh imagine if Adachi got to Yosuke first
@@TheShuuman "On that day... If our positions were switched... Would our fates be different? Would I have your life? And you mine?"
They actually do bring that up, so it'd be hype.
Yu just becomes Phoenix Wright though.
Probably reaching, but I could totally see Yu becoming some sort of detective or possibly taking up a line of work with Dojima, I think his personality would let him get through interrogations and the like pretty easily, not through COLD HARD FACTS(tm) but because he'd just be able to get people to talk by likely being himself, I think it's pretty interesting to think about what the P3 and 4 gangs might've been up to for the ones that were available during 5, and the thought of Narukami and probably Naoto too catching onto what's going on with the Phantom Thieves but being way too far out to provide any actual assistance directly is pretty cool.
While not in the ultimax games, I always liked Shinji's battle animations. Out of battle he is slouched and always has his hands in his pockets, but in battle, he stands firm and confidant and you can see his full towering height (5'10 which is huge for a Japanese male). He also is terminally ill from medication which is factored in his animations. When he misses a melee attack, he'll drop to his knees, put his hand on his mouth and cough and stumble. All the other characters just fall or miss, but Shinji is different with his illness causing him to miss. He also wields heavy weapons, such as an axe and even a stop sign, which he shouldn't be carrying since he's sick, which shows his more stubborn side as he doesn't want to be perceived as weak. His sickness is even more noticeable in the dancing games. Shinji's dance is stiff and restricted and can't pull off moves like his teammates can. Poor guy even falls multiple times mid dance and struggles to catch his breath. What's great about these animations is his illness isn't discussed until later after he joins the party, which means you saw his animations already and suspected he wasn't all healthy. Also take note of his appearance. He wears a beanie and heavy peacoat. Because of his harsh personality, you'd think its just his style. But when you hear about his illness, its explained that his body temperature doesn't regulate and needs warm clothing on all the time. Persona 3 legit made a terminally ill character work in battle flawlessly
As predicted, you really sold me on her character
Its honestly adorable how she's flailing around with her kicks, I love it
Chie is the best character from the game. Sorely underrated for some reason, but out of everyone, she's the most earnest, honest, and upfront of the entire cast. Her problems aren't complex or world shattering. She isnt struggling with being transgender or gay in japan. She doesnt have a family legacy to maintain.
She's a boyish girl who wants someone to call her pretty just once. And thats so incredibly normal and mundane it stands out in a universe with gods, robots, spirit bears, and talking cat cars.
@@TheGreatDanish Naoto isn´t transgender, and Kanji is not gay.
How could you miss that?
@@danaltamirano2546 The complete lack of reading comprehension you have to have to look at Kanji's entire arc and come away with "hes not gay" is astounding. I know the English translation was told to tone the gay down by Altus but come on man. His shadow is literally repressed homosexuality.
@@TheGreatDanish It´s not repressed homosexuality, you didn´t get it.
The problem with Naoto is not that she wants to be a man, is that she thinks women are not suited or treat equally in a lot of jobs (which is true) plus the idea of the "perfect detective" being a man. Sherlock, basically. If anything, what Naoto ended up wanting is to accept herself and start to make a wave within her own dream.
Kanji is not gay. He started to think he was because neither girls wanted to be around him (due to him looking like a punk) and boys were also scared, but he have this whole "feminine" hobby that puts him in a situation where his sexuality is confronted. His whole channel is him thinking "well, maybe I´m gay" but his own SL shows that in the end is okay to be a man without having to imitate a delinquent, or a macho.
@@danaltamirano2546 lol
That's a lot of words for: "Chie best girl"
My only problem with P4 Arena and Ultimax is that is was never ported to steam with Golden. It's a must
Ideally with rollback netcode.
Well I got news for you
I saw les miserables and knew you were going to show arm joe
arm joe makes street chavo look like a logical adaptation
I love that I know what that sentence MEANS!
XD
2:45 wait a moment...
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It's been like 20 years since I've seen someone reference arm Joe and its been worth the wait
5:00 As someone who loves Chie but never played P4A before, i love how cute she looks when she does the kung-fu poses
Chie will be best girl for me no matter what she’s like a girlfriend and best friend in one
Chie Gang
NEED TOMBOY
Anyone who emulates and shows respect for Bruce Lee is automatically amazing
Fun fact: one of her alt outfits in Golden and Dancing All Night is the Game of Death jumpsuit.
One of her win quotes in Persona 4 is straight up "Don't think, feel." It's great.
I don't think that's necessarily true. Otherwise Rufus would be neat but... he isn't.
@@Red6095 Rufus doesn’t emulate Bruce lee...
@@Red6095 He does not emulate nor show respect for Bruce Lee
Ah yes, chie.
You never forget your first waifu.
@Tyrone Gilliard *raises glass*
@Tyrone Gilliard Here here!
cheers
Glad I was not the only one.
I somehow completely forgot that Chie's idea of "training," is just... playing pretend power rangers in the park..
Great video, you made this fellow Chie main happy!
Well.... even without a master she’s able to do high tier kicks smoothly.
It’s obviously just an hobby but you should never lessen how far self-education can lead you.
@@edwardsuou I agree. I mean, take someone like Shaina West: she's a self-taught martial artist, and now, she's a top tier stunt performer breaking boundaries. Also note that she draws inspiration from her love for anime, Japanese culture, motorbikes, samurai, and her profession as a personal trainer to become who she is now. And she did all that after a bad motorcycle accident. So for Chie, she could go a long way if she applies herself enough.
my biggest take away is that theres a les misérables fighting game.
the one/two dozen Les Mis fighting game fans: "WILL U TAKE UR PLACE W/ MEEE"
TBH, when i saw her for the first time, i instantly fell in love on her. her attack animation is reflected in her personality. when she's about to make a specific animation (or critical hit), she often do a warm-up (or stretching?), that's the prove that she knows she's not a real martial artist, and if she didn't do that she will place unnecessary stress on her heart, lungs, and muscle. (this is what google says)
BTW, i wish they would port Persona 4 Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold to PC
More visual novels need to be made into fighting games. - Tsukihime/Melty Blood Gang
And Fate/Unlimited Codes.
to be fair, blazblue IS a visual novel
And Umineko
more need to be made into fighting games.
Danganronpa fighting game omg, I would play the hell outta that.
I miss Ultimax so much. I used to play it bunch with my 1 other Persona-loving friend and it was fun at any skill level. I hope we see all those characters again one day in a Persona 5 Arena.
You try Blazblue Cross Tag? I think most of the Investigation Team has been port up into it at this point.
@@professordetective807 Yeah, I enjoyed Cross Tag. Still have my fingers crossed to see a game with them interacting with the P5 cast (and if I'm really lucky, with their ultimate Personas).
@@quicksilver446 | Oh yeah, Persona 5 Arena needs to happen.
Atlus being dumb and not releasing it on PC is a tragedy
Still waiting for p4u to be released on pc.
God dammit.
Reminds me of the time Ann said that she never used a whip before, but somehow was just really good with it for one of the random Mementos talks. The developers knew how difficult it would be to write it in how a group of random teens got together and are all some how good at fighting, so they threw in this random explanation that they can only fight and move like this in the other world.
I think Ryuji is another example of what you're talking about. If he ran around outside of the metaverse like he does in it, he would probably exacerbate his leg injury possibly to the point of being unable to even walk properly.
Okay, they do try to play this up for drama much later in the game, but still.
Great vid and spot on.
I'd also add that Chie is clearly having the time of her life doing all of this. There is just this childlike joy in everything she does from her eager idle stance to her grinning and turning away when Tomoe brings down the Godhand.
Out of all the P4 cast she is clearly the one who enjoys fighting the most.
I've always loved how bouncy Chie was even before I ever knew what a persona was. She's probably the whole reason why I'm such an advant persona fan nowadays. The way she dances and fight really encapsulates her spunkiness and I just simply love that. Major props to the animation team for making such great animations for characters.
Persona 4 Arena was one of my favorite fighting games I played, I played so much of that game that I could play every character in the roster with a basic understanding of their combos, type match ups, their mix-up game, and how to defeat them.
I spent a lot of time playing Persona 4 Arena to know all of this, but it did introduce me to the Persona series so I'm thankful for that.
again proves why arc sys is the master of fighting games
Love the video. But Persona games, at least the later ones, always brings out the Waifu Wars in the comments. "We lost a lot of good people in the Waifu Wars" - Super Butter Buns.
I 100% understand you bro.
All of them are best girl. But especially Yosuke an Kanji.
Buns reference? Shut up and take my like.
I felt in love with her since de 1st time I saw her because I was a Kung Fu movies addicted by the time I've played, so I identified with her SO MUCH it scared me! I love her strength, positivity and humor, she rocks her short hair and doesnt hide what she likes because its not considered "feminine". Shes the best 💚💚💚
here here
>doesnt hide what she likes because its not considered "feminine"
She does pretty much exactly that, even if it was toned down in the English localisation. She's actually got a lot of internalised sexism.
I always love when you can watch a character in action and realize that they're self-taught, like they cobbled together their fighting style based on some surface-level ideas they had, and they just happen to be talented enough or work hard enough to make such a style viable. Shinada from Yakuza 5 is like this as well, he just fights like a street punk with a slight lean on some of his moves looking like sports attacks, like his football tackle; but then he also has very specific tendencies that make it clear he learned how to do these things by watching pro wrestling matches on TV and trying to emulate it. In fact, a lot of the yakuza games do a good job of making it believable that someone without proper training could be as strong as they are in combat, where strong characters may not have the proper form or stance, but they have plenty of muscle strength and endurance, flexibility, the reaction speed to make reasonable decisions at light speed, and the ability to think on the fly and use their environment.
An example I like to think of is the mountain and viper in game of thrones, the guy with the mastery of his form isn't necessarily the stronger fighter against a big dude with basic but well oiled fighting instincts and speed. In any real fight, there's no perfect bulletproof plan; if you eat a bad hit, you can get knocked flat in an instant. Just because the opponent is "less skilled" or less proper in their practice doesn't mean they aren't dangerous.
All that being said, I don't know if I can attribute this level of intrinsic meaning to the animation of Arena. Arena and all the other P4 spinoffs and remake were made by a B team at Atlus with none of the core creative staff or writers the original had, and it really shows in some pretty stark contradictions in characterization, basic theming, and overall writing quality. I highly doubt anyone in charge on Arena was, like, aware of this symbolic idea in Persona 4 and decided to express it in this game in a subtle manner. They literally write her entire character into meat girl for that game. The original already expressed that one's physical power is related to their heart and persona through the use of stats which are directly correlated with the persona, not the actual human, and because even if a human has weapons, they are physically incapable of fighting shadows until they get a persona, meaning it was always the persona's power that let them fight through whatever means they chose.
If there's something to take away from Yakuza...
is that bikes are the best weapon.
The way you describe a self-taught fighter, reminds me of Travis Touchdown, especially now that I remember, like Chie, he learned all his swordplay and wrestling from watching VHSes.
"And whatever heavy object Kanji can get his hands on" *Distant piano smash*
One of my favorite interactions in all of fighting games comes from Blazblue Cross Tag Battle where Azrael meets Chie, sees her throwing out wild un-trained kung fu moves that still work and coming to the conclusion that this teenage tomboy from rural japan is doing the same thing he is. Holding back and throwing out obvious attacks with poor form to make fights last longer and get more fun out of it. Azrael, the Mad Dog, The Canibal, the guy in Blazblue who's entire gimmick is being so physically strong he can toss magical gods around takes one look at Chie and thinks, "This girl gets it." Chie is disturbed by this, especially when hearing her fighting game exclusive title makes him double down on his read of her.
Kung Fu is said to be superior skill derived from hard work, dedication and determination. Add a persona to that and you have something scary.
This is a fantastic video, I don't want to sound greedy but I honestly would have killed for more examples but it's still great. I never realized this about P4AU's animation, and you couldn't have picked a better example. A great way to communicate Persona's ideas in a fighting game. Pointing out how Tomoe actually launches Chie for her Dragon Kick and how that literally turns her fake kung fu into something threatening via the power of Persona is a great way to get the ideas across.
Chie is one of,if not my favorite characters. Love the video
I actually have the P4A Official Design Works book. It's really neat the decisions that went into fleshing out the characters from the ArcSys side and what Atlus would and wouldn't let them do. In regards to Chie, some of the notes in the sprite animations mention details like Chie being off-balance during some of her moves, so it definitely plays to your analysis. After all this time, Persona 4 Arena (Ultimax) is still one of my favorite fighting games! ^^ (Yukiko Main)
I played Bbtag for a loooong itme now, and I just now realized that Tomoe propelled Chie to do a dragon kick... You learn something everyday.
I just love the easter egg in Persona 5 implying that Akihiko ended up becoming a cop while Chie followed not too far behind and was at the academy during the course of the game. IF those two ever get a buddy cop spinoff it would be hilariously bad for all of Japan's protein.
just a small correction, in P1, Ayase use a whip and Yukino use razor blades
in P2 not every character uses guns, and three characters use really specific weapons, Jun use Flowers, Eikichi use Guitar Cases and Baofu use Coins
anyway great video
on the weapons P4 cast picks, I remember there is implications that since they feel confident and more familiar with the weapons they picked, they actually can damage the foes in TV realm (no doubted aided b y their called out personas), Like the first scene when they pick weapons, they pick what feels right to them.
Kanji, as probably the only guy with real fighting experience considering his history, is gonna be condifent with pretty much anything.. so.. he basically grabbed a chair. Chie, I say she has kung fu skils, just unrefined and lacking control. She always looks like she is putting her whole body into wild spiral when kicking.
5:00 this should be shown To those outside the Persona fandom
4:10
The Man with the Seven Scars... WATAAAHH!
That's like making a fighting game out of a visual novel.
Me: starts giggling.
Uhhhh... that's like trying to make a fighting game out of a musical.
Me: Starts laughing even harder.
Can you tell me what’s the name of the on that’s based ob musical? I really want to check that out
For decades Personas bolster their users vitality and strength setting them apart from humans without them. Once a contract is formed, a Persona's affinities, weaknesses, and resistances are all inherited.
Despite Chie's Kung Fu being 'fake' her Persona's attributes give her moves real power. However, one thing a Persona cannot give to their user (at least to my knowledge) is _technique._ The fact that Chie practiced and mimicked what she saw in movies is all on her. Her technique coupled with the enhancement from her Persona give her what she needs to hit like a truck.
While i loved the animation done by every character in arena, what sold me was what they did with yosuke's character and the implied backslide as well as growth he underwent durring his own story, to the point where I see his story as the most canonically possible in the arena storyline. I'd love it if you did an abitorial on yosuke to pair with adachi's
Your explanation of why the Persona 4 characters' odd, cobbled-together arsenal actually does anything really recontextualized a lot of those weapon choices for me. Especially in Adachi's case: he's an egotistical bastard, so he probably thinks anything he does will work, even if it's his bizzare pistol-whipping and noodley-looking kicks.
It really does make me wonder the kinds of interactions she would have with Akihiko if their interactions did expand out further than just Arena.
You have someone who has basically devoted himself to the Art of Boxing (and protein). He chose the sport because, “I know what it’s like to be powerless,” and becomes so proficient, he can apparently dodge bullets (or in his case, he knows about avoiding being targeted. Can’t imagine why he would learn that, can you? /s).
Part of me feels like that conversation (if expanded on) would seemingly go two ways. The first would be an embrace of following your passion. The other is to probably get that formal training so that the king fu would not only be what it should, but so that she can be even stronger for it.
That and I wonder if our protein loving fighter would look at Chie’s Kung Fu and call it that. Within the setting of Persona 4 (and by extent, Arena), it is as genuine as Chie makes it. But in the real world, it would be interesting to see if he would still think that or not.
Either way, the Persona fighting game was definitely a stroke of genius. Out of everything we’ve gotten from Persona 5, it is a bit of a shocker that we haven’t seen “Persona 5 Arena” yet (or even something as simple as “Joker Joins Blazblue Cross Tag!”).
I've seen sequel fics with them both ending up in the police force together, often with Makoto, Naoto, and Katsuya showing up, too.
I so wish we could get a P4A/P4AU re-release on Switch.
A PC port wouldn't go amiss, either.
Noone plays fighting games on Switch, because they have Smash.
@@HellNutcase Because everyone plays on Wi-Fi and you're force to buy an arcade stick, switch controllers are ass
Sad no mention or even passing acknowledgement that Persona 2 exist with it's all adult cast and some odd weapon choices. I mean, one uses flowers and another uses coins.
Oh I love this. This series your working on. The amount of attention you are paying to the little details, and then bringing them forward. Bringing a microscope to something as tiny, but as carefully designed, as some animations in a spin off fighting game. This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. Please keep up the amazing work!
Chie is quite literally the Kung Fu Master of Disaster!
correction: yu uses any long thing he can use, and youske uses anything he can get two of.
Theres a base for your idea about weaponry and combat in the Persona 4 being more about the belief and inner strength than literal firepower. In Persona 3 the guns they use to evoke their Persona aren't ACTUAL guns but the characters have to believe they are and believe in what they're doing when they press that barrel to their head and pull the trigger to summon their Persona. In 5 again the guns aren't ACTUAL guns because where the hell are you going to find real guns in JAPAN, they're airsoft, but they're convincing enough that the demons can see them and believe they are dangerous making them so.
At least this is how I remember it. They never spend a lot of time on these points.
I'mma be honest... I thought Chie actually knew stuff about Kung-Fu, cuz I only played Cross Tag Battle.
Now I kinda feel like an idiot lol
She's juuuuust competent enough to sell the illusion lol
@@Poet482 That's true!
she knows something just it's just self taught so there's a ton movie influences too
Thanks guys, was wondering where you went.
I was kinda hoping you'd go into a little bit of discussion of why she works and Rufus from Street Fighter doesn't even tho they're both "kung fu fighters" who just imitate stuff they saw in movies.
Guess that explains why Akihiko turns into a DBZ fighter, he can already dodge gunfire in the real world.
Dragon kicking enemy asses to the Milky way, just like Gene taught
oh shit now I got the song stuck in my head
I never played P4G, but she seems like a relateable character since I like to do kicks and punches when I'm alone in the house and I too think steak is the best meat besides fajita. I also never considered until now how fighting games design characters vs JRPGS, visual novels, etc.
This was an absolutely fantastic video! I'm totally gonna binge all your P4 videos now because I'm curious to see how you discuss the other characters!
I've been hearing about the fandom for years, and this is the FIRST time i've ever been interested in diving in.
As always, love this animation excellence series. Love your videos! And I always revisit the MK ones to have a laugh lol.
I'm a big fat Chie fan. Best Persona character hands down.
Love the way she's animated! I really need to play P4 Arena someday
This idea seems further expanded in P5, where all characters seem to wield glorified toys as weapons in the worlds of mementos and the palaces...
The bullets and blades are purely an expression of their own willpower and rebellion... SYMBOLISM!!!
Please talk about BlazBlue or Under Night In-Birth character designs and animations. The work that goes into them is insane.
Sure, she has absolutely no actual martial arts training, and is only copying moves she sees in the movies, but I've never seen somebody so willing to square up for literally anybody. Even perfect strangers should feel perfectly safe when they see that stylistic green jacket, almost like seeing Superman's cape.
If she took actual martial arts classes, along with her dogged determination and willingness to throw down for her loved ones, she could legitimately be one of the most powerful martial artists in the world.
How not to love this woman animation...she is just too precious.
it's nice how you actually have gameplay from a lot of fighting games hardly anyone would know of. blade arcus doesnt even have a mizuumi, and there was one or 2 i didnt recognize.
in actuality. kung fu literally just translates into hard work, and just is an umbrella term for martial arts in chinese. so you can easily say chie practice kung fu, in a literal sense. what ever she practices is definitely not less effective than a lot of modern wushu stuff from a realistic perspective. and either way galactic punt is impressive.
i always thought of chie as the most impressive p4u character since she only needs to kick people, while everyone else need weapons
As much as I love the P4 cast, my favourite in Arena has got to be Labrys.
Beautiful.... I love watching these videos because these educates me about the small detailing and storytelling artists puts in characters from their character designs, moves and interactions
It's worth mentioning that "the Persona 4 heroes' weapons work because they correspond to how each of them defines strength" is a similar reason to why the Phantom Thieves' weapons work in Persona 5, but in reverse. In P5, the weapons on hand are highly-realistic model guns and rubber knives (and in one case, _literal_ children's toys) that are relatively harmless, but to an outsider they _look_ real and so the cognitive world of the Metaverse treats them like they are.
I mean the area inside of metaverse is the inner cognitive of a person making it their own reality so whatever they deem as realistic enough will become the real deal there.
while the tv world is something a kin to a relfection world where the one that watch or enter it is the one that judge wether or not it is the truth making the character the one to choose.
Works the same but pretty different i guess tv world and tartarus is kinda the same tho
Chie is best girl in all of Persona. The animation in the fighting games is fantastic, and I even own the book describing their key frames as the designers give notes on how to inform the character's personality. Chie swings too hard and with poor form, so she keeps having to catch herself from falling over if you watch the full animations. It's great stuff.
Now here the kicker, P4 Arena was my first experience with Persona as a whole, before going back and starting at the beginning, P3FES, at the suggestion of my friend who showed it to me. I picked Chie from her design and animations alone, and its fitting that she's rushdown. It's doubly amazing considering that when I actually got to P4G, Chie became my waifu, and that's after knowing everything about the character. The fact that P4 Arena's animations sold me on her character before I otherwise knew what she was about as a character is a testimate to how well they captured the essence of the cast of P4 as well as P3.
Also, watching the menus of P4 Arena before playing the base games was so confusing I'll never forever it. Confusing in an intriguing way. "Okay, we're going into a TV, there's a guy with a long nose dealing out cards, there's a talking teddie bear, and also some of the older fighters are regularly shooting themselves in the head for some reason. Seems cool, and I *need* to know what's going on here." Lol great into to the series.
The cast of Persona 4 is great, but Chie is the best, spread the word.
There are a lot of issues I have with Chie's character outside of her SLs and combat, but as someone who also grew up on Bruce Lee movies and the like, I absolutely love her combat motif, and ever since getting Arena Ultimax I've really enjoyed playing as her (although Yukiko is still my preferred playstyle). I think you absolutely hit the nail on the head regarding how Arena handles how each character works and WHY it works.
*Sees Blazblue character select screen* TAGER I PICK TAGER!!!
As soon as I saw the title, I knew the contents. I never actually played Persona 4, but played a lot of the fighting games. Chie was my favourite character, and the animation was part of it. Great break down of it 👌🏼
Galactic punt! To the MEAT DIMENSION!
DO THE COSTUMES FOR PERSONA 5 ROYAL PLEASE!!!! All of their costumes have meaning and I wanna know how you feel about them!!
Chie is the best persona party member because of galactic punt
It is especially noticable when you contrast her to Akihiko who is a trained boxer. His moves are quick, precise and calculated, but lack the explosive forward momentum that Chie can do.
Another way to tell how Chie is visually not a trained fighter is comparing her idol stance to the other hand to hand fighters in Bbtag
Akihiko and Akatsuki both use accurate boxing and karate stances respectively and are clearly very well trained
Yang and Makoto both use more fictional stances, with Makoto particularly bouncing with energy, but they both have a clear amount of guard up
Even Naoto Kurogane, who fights very wildly and seemingly also self taught, has a visible guard up and looks balanced on his feet
But Chie has none of this and is instead just bouncing enthusiastically on the spot, because she's not thinking about having to guard and instead is just going with the flow
This video has further reinforced something that I've always believed in. That you can make a fighting game out of anything.
i wonder if these dudes will ever do a video on God Hand
I'm dumb, chie is kinda dumb, kung fu go brrrrrr.
And that's why I love chie, thank you very much
My main goal for 2021 is to play and complete Persona 4 Golden. I HAVE TO DO IT THIS YEAR
Galactic Punt being her Ult was a very good choice
I'm surprised you didn't mention how the guns in P5 are just models that the metaverse makes real in regard to the weapons in P4 being symbolic.
Game: persona 4 arena Actual game: blazblue crosstag battle
I'm more of a Naoto man myself but I see you, I see you
This makes me think that if P4 was properly trained they would be beasts. They already are great fighters doing their thing.
as someone who got super late into persona series, i'm still awaiting persona 5 arena, i'm also sad to have missed out on persona 4 characters in an FG
Video on P4 arena in 2021 fantastic! I would love if you would do a video on Yu I wanna see how his blank slate translated to a fighting game from someone who is versed in the medium
The Violin part pf her theme is pure eargasm
2:47 melty blood has entered the chat
"they're all teenagers except *same ol new age mascot characters"
Don't forget that one time the whole cast was nothing but 20-30 somethings. And the ninja dog that one other time.
Persona 2 doesn´t exist.
P4 Best girl, that said, i miss playing those games (p4a and p4u) they were so fun
Chie would fit in very well with hibiki and genjuro from symphogear also chie trained by genjuro would be even more crazy
Trying to make a fighting game out of a vn
I was expecting melty blood but i got a pleasant surprise
i like chie she makes a devil summoner reference so she is best girl idc what you say