That computer is so sexy for it's time! It seems so satisfying to work on one of these, even in today's standards! That form factor, that keyboard, that disk drive...! It's just... WOW!
I sometimes play this in the background in my room when I feel calm and when I am alone. The quietness and the random sounds and stuff just calms me while I work on my text editor on my chromebook. Your video just brings me back to the time when I was like 6 or 7. I was in first grade and second. Mostly, this brings back the 1st grade memories, well the book part did. We had those big blue imacs and they had that leapfrog scooter race that I obsessively wanted to play for some reason. That was in 2007. I know this probably took place like maybe 15 years afterward of your elementary school time. But it just brings back that old calm old computer room classroom feel. I don't know.
Hell no i remember my grand fathert usind discs likie that on some old pc , i was like 5yo now 21 , Good for you man for keeping the history of new world .
I was doing color printing on AppleWorks in the 80s by creating custom control codes for the different text colors. The control codes (sometimes called escape sequences) were explained in the ImageWriter manual. Incidentally, iOS on the iPhone 6s recognizes the correct spelling for AppleWorks and ImageWriter!
6:49 All of these terms (NLQ, 9 pin dot matrix) take me back. I had a Citizen 120D, a cheapy 9 pin. I hung onto it for quite a long time. By the time I "upgraded" to a more modern inkjet, the specs had switched between Minutes Per Page to Pages Per Minute. Dot matrix printers hung around for years in challenging environments such as garages. Having a printer was great because it was the only way that you could get something out of your computer and show it someone who didn't have the same computer.
Man, the sound of that printer really takes me back... My social studies teacher in 5th grade had a computer lab full of iMac G3 computers of various models. However, all the exam grading he did was on an IIgs with an ImageWriter II attached. This was roughly 10 years ago, and I swear, after I got out of that class for good, I was hooked on buying a IIgs. I did eventually get one several years later (from the dump of all places, probably thrown out by my middle school!), but my interest in that had waned considerably by that point. Still, the sound of the ImageWriter II will be forever engraved into my head. Side note: My middle school had a decent handful of IIgses still floating around, alongside several models of older Macs like the LC 475. These ancient dinosaurs held on as late as 2009 - the year I graduated from middle school.
Funny thing: Before I went to school I couldn't read. I had a kid's book read to me and after a while I knew exactly which words were on which page and "read" them XD I had a quite good memory when I was a little kid. I really like your shirt BTW.
My local school district also once used AppleWorks and ClarisWorks too back when I was in 3rd and 4th grades. Also nice to see some your old school work. I still have some of my old school work stored away too.
Awesome video! I especially enjoyed the look back on your books - the part at 48:20 regarding "Volume 6" was hilarious. Printers fascinated me as a kid, I would spend hours using desktop publishing programs to make banners and greeting cards for fake occasions. I'm sure I drove the house crazy with constant dot matrix printing noise.
creative_username Like many modern applications; They break right after the warranty expires and fixing them requires some high tech skill IF it can be fixed
I have an Image Writer LQ. Actually it had a 27pin print head, 3 rows of 9 pins. I have no problems with it jamming, but the ribbons are much harder to find then the ImageWriter II. The big selling feature of the LQ was that it could print on wide format paper for business use.
I just recently bought a w905 word processor/daisywheel printer. Though, it may not be a apple 2c, I am happy to atleast have somewhat of a vintage computer. I've been looking for a word processor for years. I just got to fix the diskette drive.
Now all you need is a Unidisk 3.5" drive. A later version of The Print Shop added the ability to print in color. I think it also had a preview function for everything but banners. These days you can print to modern printers with the classic Print Shop due to the magic of emulators. Also the Imagewriter LQ was actually a 27-pin(!) printer. The additional pins were used for underlining text and to move graphics down 1-3 pixels, something the printer can't normally do. From what I've read, it was built by Toshiba, but C-Itoh also made a model based on the same internals. The printer was unusual in that it kept the same aspect ratio as 9-pin printers so older software that only supported the Imagewriter would still print correctly.
Can you link the website that sells the old 5.25 inch floppies? I've recently acquired a couple of old Apple ]['s and am looking for hopefully inexpensive blank disks.
I used Apple ImageWriter II printers all the time when I was in elementary school. Brings back lots of fun memories. I have noticed when searching for ribbons it is easy to get a black ribbon (even OfficeDepot sells them online), but I am having trouble finding color ribbons. Where is a reliable source for color ribbons? Also, do you know any thing about re-inking a color ribbon? Thanks.
We got to publish a book too in the second grade, thanks to a substitute teacher we had that replaced our normal second grade teacher that was on maternal leave. I don't have mine anymore, though. It was about a school bus named Lizzie
Really just a personified school bus. When I was in the first grade, I had a strange obsession with school busses and I combined that with the assignment. The school bus had a son named Zane. Other than that, I don't remember much except typing it in Microsoft Word 2003 in Windows XP and illustrating it by hand.
Regarding the "Of Mice and Men" story, You may have watched the Black and white movie and not remembered it? I know the color remake would have only just come out around that time.
well my collection isn't as exact but is similar to yours, the only differences are the external floppy drive, and the fact that I have the original imagewriter as well as a color cartridge, though I mainly use the black cartridge. it all works. the latest thing that really finished it off is a box of assorted school software that still works. the only thing I paid for ? the external floppy and the box of software for $30.
I remember using Clarisworks in like 1st grade so like 2005-6. it was the ids version with the red and yellow gear thing and those other things that were like purple and green
Duuude, you just brought my childhood back! LOVE the video, ambiance, EVERYTHING :) is there anyway you can help me get my hands on just such rig? it would be a dream come true! PLEASE :)
Hi bbishopcm, I am only a year older than you and used an apple 2 e through elementary and junior high I was the only blind kid in the district so my apple computer talked. Have you ever worked with the speech software for these things? I used an apple image writer with my braille notetaker, the thing finally croked a week before graduation. I miss that imperfect robot voice sometimes. Is it worth it to pull a system life this together?
Interesting! I believe it is worth bringing such a machine back to life; the only challenge really is finding another speech synthesizer and the software to make it run. Barring that, obtaining another Apple IIe should be very easy.
I really enjoyed this! I watched the whole thing. We must be similar age because I remember doing the exact same projects in school!!! I really like your setup. I'm trying to piece together an Apple IIGS system right now as its mostly what I used in school. Would you recommend the same model printer if I'm going the IIGS route? but now I may end up with both a IIGS and a IIc. Also I always wondered why the Iic monitor was green scale when one of the whole points of the apple II lineup was its color capability. Also originally the rainbow apple logo was to indicate color capable. Which is why I always thought it was weird that they put it on the Iic monitor and other non color monitors. The part that really brought back some great memories is the greeting cards! Me and my sister used to do the same thing. We would make them all the time, so much fun. You probably won't see this but just wanted to thank you anyways. +1 sub
The IIc is great, I think it's my favorite II computer. However, it really wasn't meant for desktop publishing... Timeworks' Publish It! is powerful (it's the most powerful I've found for the Apple II) but overall there were better options back then to make professional work. A dot matrix printer was also not ideal for more than a one or two page draft, a LaserWriter would have been appropriate. For home and school sure, but it definitely wasn't representative of desktop publishing in the 1980s at all.
I just found the apple image writer in the trash and took it apart to see how it was made and I took the DH-90 1270182 Image writer printhead because I was curious about it and I looked it up and was surprised about the prices
the school district i live in the schools used to all have the image writer 2 and no one was ever allowed to use them and they never got used but only on special occasions but no other time. if anyone was using a printer for any reason they were banned from the computer for the rest of the class time in the computer lab sad to say. they were all used with the 2 gs
I like how you even replicated an authentic period-correct desk layout of the PC.
That computer is so sexy for it's time! It seems so satisfying to work on one of these, even in today's standards! That form factor, that keyboard, that disk drive...! It's just... WOW!
I sometimes play this in the background in my room when I feel calm and when I am alone. The quietness and the random sounds and stuff just calms me while I work on my text editor on my chromebook. Your video just brings me back to the time when I was like 6 or 7. I was in first grade and second. Mostly, this brings back the 1st grade memories, well the book part did. We had those big blue imacs and they had that leapfrog scooter race that I obsessively wanted to play for some reason. That was in 2007. I know this probably took place like maybe 15 years afterward of your elementary school time. But it just brings back that old calm old computer room classroom feel. I don't know.
Hell no i remember my grand fathert usind discs likie that on some old pc , i was like 5yo now 21 , Good for you man for keeping the history of new world .
I was doing color printing on AppleWorks in the 80s by creating custom control codes for the different text colors. The control codes (sometimes called escape sequences) were explained in the ImageWriter manual.
Incidentally, iOS on the iPhone 6s recognizes the correct spelling for AppleWorks and ImageWriter!
Love the sound of a dot matrix printer. Great memories. Still have an ImageWriter ll hooked up to my iie. Works great.
6:49 All of these terms (NLQ, 9 pin dot matrix) take me back. I had a Citizen 120D, a cheapy 9 pin. I hung onto it for quite a long time. By the time I "upgraded" to a more modern inkjet, the specs had switched between Minutes Per Page to Pages Per Minute.
Dot matrix printers hung around for years in challenging environments such as garages.
Having a printer was great because it was the only way that you could get something out of your computer and show it someone who didn't have the same computer.
Right when he said "what time is it? Oh, it's 10:30" I looked at the my time and it was 10:30PM.
Brings back memories...jammed printers, software with no preview function, disks that failed to load...ahh! the good old days!
Man, the sound of that printer really takes me back... My social studies teacher in 5th grade had a computer lab full of iMac G3 computers of various models. However, all the exam grading he did was on an IIgs with an ImageWriter II attached. This was roughly 10 years ago, and I swear, after I got out of that class for good, I was hooked on buying a IIgs. I did eventually get one several years later (from the dump of all places, probably thrown out by my middle school!), but my interest in that had waned considerably by that point. Still, the sound of the ImageWriter II will be forever engraved into my head.
Side note: My middle school had a decent handful of IIgses still floating around, alongside several models of older Macs like the LC 475. These ancient dinosaurs held on as late as 2009 - the year I graduated from middle school.
Funny thing: Before I went to school I couldn't read. I had a kid's book read to me and after a while I knew exactly which words were on which page and "read" them XD I had a quite good memory when I was a little kid. I really like your shirt BTW.
My local school district also once used AppleWorks and ClarisWorks too back when I was in 3rd and 4th grades. Also nice to see some your old school work. I still have some of my old school work stored away too.
For fucks sake, this is a long video....but I enjoyed every minute
Awesome video! I especially enjoyed the look back on your books - the part at 48:20 regarding "Volume 6" was hilarious. Printers fascinated me as a kid, I would spend hours using desktop publishing programs to make banners and greeting cards for fake occasions. I'm sure I drove the house crazy with constant dot matrix printing noise.
Just goes to show that older things were made to last.
simtitan1 Yeah, nowadays things are made to be thrown out after a year or two because they are so cheaply built. Old stuff FTW! XD
Florian amRechner Yup. Reminds me of the original white xbox 360. They'd red ring the second that your warranty expired.
creative_username
Like many modern applications; They break right after the warranty expires and fixing them requires some high tech skill IF it can be fixed
*****
I didn't say that it's a good thing...
creative_username yup thats what happens when people rush
I love when you’re critiquing your work.
I have an Image Writer LQ. Actually it had a 27pin print head, 3 rows of 9 pins. I have no problems with it jamming, but the ribbons are much harder to find then the ImageWriter II. The big selling feature of the LQ was that it could print on wide format paper for business use.
I just recently bought a w905 word processor/daisywheel printer. Though, it may not be a apple 2c, I am happy to atleast have somewhat of a vintage computer. I've been looking for a word processor for years. I just got to fix the diskette drive.
We still use one of these printers at work to print our price/sku stickers. Really solid printer if the one we use is any indication.
Now all you need is a Unidisk 3.5" drive.
A later version of The Print Shop added the ability to print in color. I think it also had a preview function for everything but banners. These days you can print to modern printers with the classic Print Shop due to the magic of emulators.
Also the Imagewriter LQ was actually a 27-pin(!) printer. The additional pins were used for underlining text and to move graphics down 1-3 pixels, something the printer can't normally do. From what I've read, it was built by Toshiba, but C-Itoh also made a model based on the same internals. The printer was unusual in that it kept the same aspect ratio as 9-pin printers so older software that only supported the Imagewriter would still print correctly.
Can you link the website that sells the old 5.25 inch floppies? I've recently acquired a couple of old Apple ]['s and am looking for hopefully inexpensive blank disks.
This printer was made on Steve Wozniak's 39th birthday!
I used Apple ImageWriter II printers all the time when I was in elementary school. Brings back lots of fun memories. I have noticed when searching for ribbons it is easy to get a black ribbon (even OfficeDepot sells them online), but I am having trouble finding color ribbons. Where is a reliable source for color ribbons? Also, do you know any thing about re-inking a color ribbon? Thanks.
StickeyBear Printer was a fun program for printing color graphics on the Color ImageWriter II. That and Dazzle Draw.
This was a lot of fun to watch! Can you provide a link to where you purchased your floppy disks?
Zeph McLearan Retrofloppy.com sells them. I actually bought mine from Savers. It was a rare find, but I got 'em.
We got to publish a book too in the second grade, thanks to a substitute teacher we had that replaced our normal second grade teacher that was on maternal leave. I don't have mine anymore, though. It was about a school bus named Lizzie
1912RamblerFan01 Lizzie the School Bus? What was she like?
Really just a personified school bus. When I was in the first grade, I had a strange obsession with school busses and I combined that with the assignment. The school bus had a son named Zane. Other than that, I don't remember much except typing it in Microsoft Word 2003 in Windows XP and illustrating it by hand.
Now that we are in 2023 are you still using your imagewriter ll?
Regarding the "Of Mice and Men" story, You may have watched the Black and white movie and not remembered it? I know the color remake would have only just come out around that time.
Awesome vintage computer setup.
Those books were hilariously awesome!
well my collection isn't as exact but is similar to yours, the only differences are the external floppy drive, and the fact that I have the original imagewriter as well as a color cartridge, though I mainly use the black cartridge. it all works. the latest thing that really finished it off is a box of assorted school software that still works. the only thing I paid for ? the external floppy and the box of software for $30.
With some work, you can actually even use an ImageWriter II on an IBM PC compatible ;)
I remember using Clarisworks in like 1st grade so like 2005-6. it was the ids version with the red and yellow gear thing and those other things that were like purple and green
Where did you get the paper from?
Blown engine, cracked frame...definitely a Ford. lol
Love your IIc, have pretty much the same setup, minus an external drive for now.
Duuude, you just brought my childhood back! LOVE the video, ambiance, EVERYTHING :) is there anyway you can help me get my hands on just such rig? it would be a dream come true! PLEASE :)
can this printer work on a macintosh?
Is the image writer like a typewriter or a printer? It's cool though
You definitely need a tripod but otherwise your videos are great
Hi bbishopcm, I am only a year older than you and used an apple 2 e through elementary and junior high I was the only blind kid in the district so my apple computer talked. Have you ever worked with the speech software for these things? I used an apple image writer with my braille notetaker, the thing finally croked a week before graduation. I miss that imperfect robot voice sometimes. Is it worth it to pull a system life this together?
Interesting! I believe it is worth bringing such a machine back to life; the only challenge really is finding another speech synthesizer and the software to make it run. Barring that, obtaining another Apple IIe should be very easy.
"It cost the district too much money in 1955." ROFL!
Man this is cool! I remember using one I think in 5th grade or so lol.
Where can I get the ribbons for this printer? (I got the imagewriter from 1985)
have you tried googling it? They're not hard to find...
@@bbishoppcm I guess I wasn't looking hard enough because right after I commented here I found a 3 pack brand new. Lol
I really enjoyed this! I watched the whole thing. We must be similar age because I remember doing the exact same projects in school!!! I really like your setup. I'm trying to piece together an Apple IIGS system right now as its mostly what I used in school. Would you recommend the same model printer if I'm going the IIGS route? but now I may end up with both a IIGS and a IIc.
Also I always wondered why the Iic monitor was green scale when one of the whole points of the apple II lineup was its color capability. Also originally the rainbow apple logo was to indicate color capable. Which is why I always thought it was weird that they put it on the Iic monitor and other non color monitors.
The part that really brought back some great memories is the greeting cards! Me and my sister used to do the same thing. We would make them all the time, so much fun.
You probably won't see this but just wanted to thank you anyways. +1 sub
The IIc is great, I think it's my favorite II computer. However, it really wasn't meant for desktop publishing... Timeworks' Publish It! is powerful (it's the most powerful I've found for the Apple II) but overall there were better options back then to make professional work. A dot matrix printer was also not ideal for more than a one or two page draft, a LaserWriter would have been appropriate. For home and school sure, but it definitely wasn't representative of desktop publishing in the 1980s at all.
I was speaking strictly from a consumer perspective.
I just found the apple image writer in the trash and took it apart to see how it was made and I took the DH-90 1270182 Image writer printhead because I was curious about it and I looked it up and was surprised about the prices
53:11 -- "We ran out the door, just as the stock market plummeted..." :P
the school district i live in the schools used to all have the image writer 2 and no one was ever allowed to use them and they never got used but only on special occasions but no other time. if anyone was using a printer for any reason they were banned from the computer for the rest of the class time in the computer lab sad to say. they were all used with the 2 gs
thank you for sharing this video!
I like this printer.
I could've gotten you an Apple IIgs, unfortunately my school was throwing them away a few months ago.
Thehigh quality text is pretty good.
Check this one out, Salon Care 40 Volume Creme Developer 32 oz. with this one you do not need to mix up any thing just apply it.
can you upload the whole graphics from print shop
I don’t have anything that isn’t already available elsewhere as a disk image
@@bbishoppcm you can take a snapshot through the camera
@@rudyiraheta80 That would take me a ton of time... If you are willing to pay me for an hour of my time, I'd be more than happy to! I charge $75/hr.
@@bbishoppcm i meant upload a video of you scrolling through the graphics
@@rudyiraheta80 what are you looking to use this footage for?!
well i just bought a old toshiba celeron 800 mhz 128 meg of ram (plan on upgrading 256), with windows me, i going have fun with my old stuff
Kids imaginations are intriguing. Your story about the haunted house sounds like it was written by someone on a hallucinagenic substance.
Great bedtime stories -:)
The best part of the video 54:46
Nice vid, real time atomsphere.
Regarding your last book. Maybe your little sister thought you could use some creative assistance lol.
Self printed greeting cards are more or less a joke, at least those printed with old software on a 9pin printer.
Dorf Schmidt Not really; he actually does it. I think it makes a more heartfelt card than just going out and buying one.
I think self printed greeting cards are as heartfelt as writing a letter to someone that just texting someone or sending an email.
*"yo mama is AN um i dunno"
;)
The ImageWriter II is so fucken loud!!
21:55 watch the profanity
+Pigeon Master If you don't like what I say, keep it to yourself.
BBISHOPPCM's World
its just a prank bro
+Pigeon Master
LOL
The end was quite boring. Sorry.