Jon Jones thinks Ronda Rousey could take Floyd Mayweather
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IF Ronda can take him down. I'm sorry but Ronda's hands are absolute garbage, and Floyds are world class. He'd knock her out ... and let's be honest, given Floyd's past, you know he wouldn't hesitate XD
you mean all the people he takes to decisions
I was talking about his domestic abuse ... gg for not catching that one
youtube booooooo
Other world class boxers who happen to be men?
GREAT FIRST AND ONLY EXAMPLE, Royce Gracie brazilian jiu jitsu artist, tiny man, to be more specific 176lbs, 6ft tall. His first fight in the UFC, UFC 1 November 12, 1993 was against a boxer named Art jimmerson 1983 National golden gloves winner at the middle weight category. Art Jimmerson got destroyed, by submission. Rounda knows BJJ and judo just alone, would destroy him.
***** floyd is a little more than an average world champion , he would need one shot ...just one and Ronda would be spark out ,done ,finito , ended
But floyd fought The Big show
Fax if Floyd beat Big show he could beat Ronda lmao
Not in a mma fight tho research before u speak
Youngboy AJ dude it’s sarcasm
Nolan Myers
lol someone who gets it 😂
Sorry 😐 😂
"If you're on the ground against someone who knows Jiu jitsu and you've never trained it, it's like drowning." Truer words have never been spoken.
Jiu Jitsu people are known for never keeping their hands up. Bad
Most people don't know shit about boxing
+qash maz Yeah, but you do, since you've watch all the Rocky movies.
Mikka I've also seen raging bull, southpaw, the fighter, against the ropes and Ali. But most people probably ain't seen all them movies, so guess what.. Most people don't know shit about boxing!!! 😁
qash maz lmao. You think you know "shit" about boxing because you've watched those movies? thats fucking hollywood dude, grow up. Reality calls. Don't get me wrong, those movies shows probably some great things about boxing, but most of all put boxing on the map. Nothing more than that.
+Mikka ...it's called sarcasm silly man
qash maz No, it's not. You just realized you fucked up.
How is it even a question? Is it just an excuse to fantasize about Floyd getting his ass kicked?
sounds like this is just way for ufc to talk shit about floyd since he makes more money in one fight than the whole ufc company does!
It's not about how much money you make its how you spend it buddy.
floyd how more money than he can spend in his life time buddy!
UFC is a Multi-Billion dollar company that hosts events in dozens of countries and is seen by hundreds of millions of people. Floyd fights once a year and makes anywhere from 25-70 million. Do the math....
than why cant they pay there fighters millions??floyd can make his own mma company if he wanted!
You must not follow MMA much. Plenty of millionaires, they're just not as outspoken about their paydays as "Money" is.
Jon's like " oh shit, what is she talking about? Oh, just my cat!"
You people are living in fantasy worlds. Rousey couldn't take the full power of a male professional fighter, let alone mayweather's speed. Doesn't matter if they are the same size or weight, there will ALWAYS be a strength difference. You people are setting this broad up like she's superwoman, get real and stop dreaming.
watch her fights, the only thing i see floyd doing is cutting corners, counter punching and defending, i dont remmeber the last time i saw him actually fight anyone. if she had to fight bradley or prodovnikov, people who actually FIGHT, and are agressive, then i wouldnt bet on her. what is floyd going to do when faced with a double leg takedown? shoulder roll and jab, no chance for him.
187crackkilla: Ronda would likely wreck Floyd in literally less than 30-45 seconds, streets or MMA match. You do not know fighting if you think he'd have more than a puncher's chance. Her specialty is getting inside and tossing people, and ol' Floyd isn't even a big dude. He doesn't train grappling of any kind, and she's been doing that shit since she was a kid. It's not even close.
Also, she's likely stronger than him (you are woefully misguided if you think a lifetime of high level judo training hasn't made her abnormally strong), but that doesn't even matter, because he has no training in grappling. He'd be fucking dead as soon as she got her hands on him. She'd spike him on his head and rip his arm off.
Weak male grapplers have fought strong male boxers all the time in the history of mma. Don't treat it like man vs woman, treat it like man vs less-strong man. Of course there is a strength difference. But weaker grapplers beat stronger strikers 99% of the time. Nothing new here.
So, she could beat pacquiao?
CAN SHE BEAT PACQUIAO? I mean, she can even beat up the the hulk. Superman too.
All Floyd has to do is learn takedown defense and he'll be good.
Unfortunately you don't just 'learn' take down defense. Especially against someone with the highest caliber take down skills like Ronda Rousey.
In a cage, an MMA fighter would almost certainly win, likewise in a boxing ring (boxing rules), where the boxer would no doubt dominate and most probably come out with a win as well.
BUT in saying that, we are talking about Floyd Mayweather, whether any one likes it or not, he is an extraordinary athlete.
Is that all... LOL
All I have to do is learn punching defense and I'd be the new HW boxing champ.
Stupidest comment ever...
Lildrummerboy714
Sarcasm is lost on the simple.
He gets paid to say that
ikr
Rounda would f up floyd
@@nahomseyfu1057 in her dreams lmfao.She couldn't even best holly who is a boxer
Mr Jones, you're a true gentleman outside the octagon, and an animal in it. You have all my appreciation.
What?
Hahahhahahahhahaha
Oh boy
If we're talking boxing, then it's HANDS DOWN Floyd. If we're talking MMA then it's 85% Ronda. There is ALWAYS a punchers chance. But when you consider that she's a takedowna and judo/jiu jitsu specialist while Floyd is a punching specialist you have to give the larger percentage to Ronda. In an MMA fight you have to be able to defend the takedown. If you get taken down, you then have to defend the submission. I don't think Floyd could do that. It's apples and oranges here. In a boxing match it's 95% Floyd in an MMA match it's 85% Ronda. I think that's fair.
So by your logic of a punchers chance she could always connect with him in a boxing ring. What are the chances of that and what are the chances that Floyd would be able to defend her take downs.
bighands69 If it's a punchers "chance", what makes you think she'll ALWAYS be able to connect? A chance is just that, a chance. He'll be able to defend %85 of her punches realistically. But if one of the %15 is a good connect that could mean the fight's over. Just as she'll be able to defend around %90 of his takedown attempts. I say that because anybody can throw a sloppy punch but a takedown attempt requires a bit more than just strength.
Shes not beating Floyd in a boxing match lmao, her hardest punch wont knock him out. Mayweather's too quick too strong to technical for her to even stand a chance. In mma i agree she wins 70-80%.
Lebron Jamess
No nigga. Ronda has a 10% chance of beating an average semi working out guy in a fight. No way would she even be able to grab him he's too damn fast and she wouldn;'t be able to take it
1974spr your forgetting eblows clinches kicks not just punches floyd has to worry about ...its plain and simple mma bout ronda will win 100% boxing bout floyd 100%
Couture v James Toney is not a good example to use..firstly..Toney was seriously over weight and Couture could take a punch to shoot for the take down...plus couture is one of the greats of combat sports..Mayweather is too quick on his feet..Rousey got repeatedly tagged by Misah Tate before she got her down..she couldn't eat a decent jab from may weather let alone a solid right..he could probably kill her with MMA gloves...that's not being sexist or pro boxing that's just reality, mayweather would get taken apart by a decent bantam weight, but Rousey is too slow and not experienced enough, the level of competition is not there yet in womens MMA...the Tate fight was abysmal, anyone who thinks that is a decent level of fighting is being duped by marketing, it was dogshit..I'm not dismissing Rousey, you can only beat whats in front of you, but re-watch that fight and look at her walking straight into telegraphed arm-thrown floppy punches from Tate and imagine what a rifle blot straight right from mayweather would do to her face
well miesha has a thing called takedown defense which Floyd has 0 of so no the fight would go right to the ground and he would lose
youtube booooooo She has to get in range to shoot...Joe Rogan was talking about the clinch like shes just going to be able to psychically engage a much bigger and stronger man..forget that they weight the same ...you have to remember Ronda won't be as strong as him, yeah you know sweeps but you have to get a hold of someone first, physical strength plays a huge part in any altercation, no matter what the discipline. There is not possible way that Rousey is anywhere near as strong, its just a simple biological fact. Stick Mayweather in a GI and she would toss him around like a fart in a blizzard, but shes not just going to walk up and get a hold of him...firstly he would definitely connect and secondly he will be more than match for her strength...
dagnut Actually an Olympic level Judo player is insanely strong. I agree that grabbing him would be a tall order, he's fast and strong BUT if she gets a bodylock on him he's done. He simply wouldn't have the skill set to defend in that situation, strenght would have very little to do with it. Personally I would love to see him in the ring with someone like Jose Aldo. Even if they kept grappling completely out of the equation Aldo would kick his legs completely out of boxing range and when the mobility is gone he would remove his head from his shoulders, that simple. I find it kind of amusing how they say Floyd would kill anyone in the UFC. The fact of the matter is that in a straight up boxing match he would, but in a full on striking match he wouldn't get out of the first round
Leo Alvarez I think you should re-read my first comment, I said that any decent male bantam weight would beat maywaeather..its obvious. She may be strong, but strong for a woman, that's not being sexist it's just biological, physiological fact, women don't have the same muscle density and bone structure. A woman has never bettered a male pier at any physical sporting endeavor, and by that I mean setting a measurable record. Ronda would toss an average man about in a judo match, but would see beat an equivalent male top level judo practitioner? no she wouldn't have a chance....I don't even consider her a good MMA fighter she is just so exceptional at grappling she over whelms poor opponents...forget about maywheather, I think if you gave Katie Taylor a years defensive grappling and take down training she would pick Rousey apart. Rousey is just hype, shes just a big fish swimming in an unskilled pond, we will see properly all round skilled women come through and make her look like a has-been.
***** but im not arguing about boxing, Im talking about a real fight. I don't doubt boxers would beat most mma fighters in a boxing match but in a real fight they get stomped on.
I agree that Rhonda would most likely win in an all out fight. Anyone who knows MMA knows that. But sadly, there is a little lack of education on both sides I see. Personally, I've trained as both an MMA fighter and Boxer, and I see where there are disagreements on both sides. MMA is complete fighting, but doesn't regard the timing and accuracy of boxing. As much as Rhonda's striking has improved, you can't discount Floyd's mastery of distancing and timing. There is the possibility that he could catch her coming in, or even walk her down and catch her. That would be a totally different scenario. There is no 100% guarantee that she would flatten Floyd.
Nicely put.
Well there's always that 1% in everything in this world, so yeah.
The question is this; would an average MMA fighter of average physical qualities beat a very good boxer that is taller and stronger?
If the answer is yes, then Rhonda wins. Rhonda is obviously weaker and slower.
Both of them are world level athletes in the same way that the world's greatest female ice hockey player is just as good as any male player from the olympic team of Canada or Sweden. A male champion could be a woman's champion but not the other way around. People get too excited about Rhonda being an olympic champ and all that and forget that the level of competition is entirely different in these gender segregated contests.
Finally, someone with a concise point of view about this.
But Floyd's awereness about distancing and timing in a situation when his opponent wants to kick him in the liver or take him down is ZERO.
Floyd has no idea about distancing in an MMA fight.
Were can I find the full episode of this?
I saw this guy in the club in New Mexico he is a GIANT. And really humble
Jon blink twice if you are held at gun point and forced to say this😂
Man vs Woman? Is this even a debate? Floyd would smash her easily.
you silly bitch..Floyd would get fucking ragdolled and then his arm snapped...
Theo Sheppard
whatever you say jew
lol i am not jewish
Theo Sheppard
you sure do sound like one
*****
what racism?
lol the cat finally saw an opportunity to escape and ran off into the dark... 2:15
lol!
Definitely one of the best champs the sports had he's young, matured, humbled from fights, and has a lot of potential
this aged poorly
@@Van11930 how did it age poorly? He's literally the GOAT lmao
Mayeather wins! Im sick of this stupid topic
Mayweather would have to train for a very long time to have any sort of chance against her. He's not a big strong guy, Ronda's the same size as him but she's built to ragdoll people to the ground and brake things. Floyd can't stop the takedown of an elite grappler and he's not gonna get off some perfect punch when mean ass Ronda's storming at him, gets her hands on him and slams him on his back. She'll decide when she wants him down and there's nothing he can do to stop it...
tbizzleONE HAHA fucking laughable, Mayweather would toss her ass all over the octagon. Same size doesn't mean shit, their strength is not even comparable. How much do you think she benches? Probably roughly 150 pounds less than Floyd. She couldn't take a single punch. Be serious. Watch her roll with men, even when she has the armbar in, she can't extend their arms, their just too strong.
Eli Knight you are obviously clueless and have never trained mma a day in your life.
Kyle Hurd Why? Because I know the simple muscle make-up of men and women are not the same, so their weighing the same means little, and as far as the armbar, go watch the video, on TUF, she simply isn't strong enough. Also, she couldn't take a punch from him, not one. The best grapplers on the planet still get punched when they fight.
Kyle Hurd and she is not even close to a top grappler in the world.
are they kidding? Floyd would just circle around and punch her till she drops, he wouldnt let her grapple with him, too quick and too technical striking. wtf this is pure fanboy-ism saying ronda would beat the legend floyd, wtff!! its pure non-sense
lol if anyone is a fanboy its Floyd may weather fans.
And lets not Forget, Floyd Money MayWeather I$ A Man
Have you ever watched the early MMA fights? We saw quite clearly how that turned out for strikers even if they were bigger and faster. If you don't have a ground game you will lose. Now, if the old fights can't show you that, I suggest you go to a local BJJ or Judo school and educate yourself.
I don't give a fuck how good She is, She would lose, Just the Fact alone that He Is A Man .. You are just A Bitch and You feel like You would lose against A Girl like Ronda
Jason Sliman Go to a Judo, BJJ, or MMA school and ask to have a match with a girl and tell them what you just told me. See what happens. Don't sit behind your keyboard when you have clearly never fought or trained in your life. Go out and see for yourself how that will end for you.
I miss this job jones. So happy and motivated. Still went down a legend. RIP GOAT
Austin Phattavong wtf he's not dead though haha
wow, a family full of superb athletes
The reason why Ronda wins and forces people to the ground is because there's nobody in the women's division that can hit or kick hard enough to keep her off of them. That being said, if she runs in on Floyd she will get knocked out. Floyd's a douche, but give him his respect.
I'm not gonna say Floyd wouldn't knock her out..but 9 out of 10 times she'd get him to the ground before getting knocked out. Once he's grappled ( either standing or straight to takedown ) he has zero chance. Give him all the respect in the world, Floyd would win 100% of the time in any boxing match against any UFC fighter ( except maybe some heavyweights just due to size ), but once you've experienced how hard it is to stay on your feet against a grapple artist like Rhonda, it's hard to see it any other way.
Dale C
that may be true if she grapples him, IF!!! Floyd's not slow, so he's not just going to stand there and let her grapple him. His antics take away from his intelligence, but he's actually an extremely intelligent fighter, so he's not going to let her grab him. My last point is that he's a man and she's a woman, just because there the same size does not mean they are comparable in strength and speed. Don't let movies gas your head men are the dominant for a reason
Sheldon Smith I know what you're saying, don't get me wrong, I 100% agree that a man of equal training is almost always going to do better than the woman. What I'm saying is her technique and experience overweigh that gap in athleticism between man vs woman. For an un-skilled (in grappling) man to beat a highly trained woman he needs to be in this case 200+ lbs at least. It's not from movies i get this opinion from, it's from witnessing this on a regular basis. I know Floyd would try to be elusive, not let her close distance unless she's at the right range to get hit but not grapple, but it won't matter. Unless he knocks her out in that first hit or two ( which will likely be partially blocked at the least but it could definitely happen ) he's done. She will close that distance and she will get the takedown, and she will snap his arm or choke him unconscious. If you don't believe me go to any local MMA gym and play a game of trying to punch the other while they attempt to take you down. I know it's not the same as a supreme athlete male vs a high technique female, but you'll experience what i'm talking about and see how hopeless it is.
Because of Floyds complete lack of grappling training, Ronda can sell out on a takedown against him in ways that she couldn't do against her female MMA opponents. Floyd is silly fast and very skilled and he does have that punchers chance, but Ronda is very skilled too and I'd bet a lot of money she could get Floyd tied up and neutralized before he did serious damage.
Don't forget that Ronda does train with men, she is well acclimated to dealing with man strength and doing it against guys with grappling skills.
Elthenar
she trains with men, but I'm pretty shore they told the men not to pummel her. Man strength is different from woman strength. Yes in a hypothetical world if she got him down she could submit him, IF is the word. I think he may be to strong for that, the women she fights aren't as strong as her, that why she shakes off their punches and takes them down. I see her fighting him as a Chuck Liddell vs any other grappler scenario.
Why didn't you play football? I sucked. lol
no hay subtitulos en español??
I can't imagine how fast and how hard a real pro boxers punch would be with those tiny mma gloves.
I think Jon was high when he said this.
Why?
@@maysae.2010 hes high. Floyd kills her at age 45
Winning a fight comes down to one thing: which fighter can execute their game plan. It doesn't matter if you're a boxer, mma fighter, navy seal, street fighter, convict serving a life sentence, movie star etc. If you execute your game plan you win. Simple. I love you all more than you'll ever know. Let's all start being nicer to each other.
Big Willie But if your game plan is doomed from the start because your modality does not match up with your opponents. Which is why Flloyd literally would lose to a woman in mma.
nyclear
and you can back that up with no evidence at all? Have you ever saw Floyd in a street fight? Do you know what he trains in outside of boxing? No. You're just like everybody else. All you want to do is see that man beat by anybody. I get it. He's not the best person alive but this lust for him to be beaten badly is just senseless.
I cannot be absolutely sure of anything, good point. But here is why I say that: A good (not great) grappler can shoot for a takedown feet beyond the best puncher's range. Which means the takedown has already occurred before a strike can even happen. And if that is the case, there is nothing you can really do because all the forces are headed for your knees and it's too late. Then once on the ground, Mayweather would get payback for all the out of integrity evil shit he does in his life. He's probably the type of guy who taps from strikes so maybe he wouldn't get that hurt.
nyclear
A fast stiker can catch a good grappler as he shoots. It all depends. nothing is for certain in fighting.
Big Willie If nothing is for certain in fighting, than surely it would be hard to put into words what truly makes a great fighter, more so if those words are few. I agree that planning and executing a good plan is part of what makes a good fighter, but, to say that's all it takes, well, that's a simplistic view for a novice, no offense. As I'm sure you know, a great fighter knows several ways to respond to any situation, and has a knack for deciding which is best based on his opponents strength and weaker elements, and his own. Someone who relies solely on executing a specific strategy undermines the need for adaptation and the sometimes necessary sudden and dramatic shift of strategy, bases of the circumstances at any given point in fight. One who does not read the situation can not be a great fighter, no matter how skilled and able. Love you too bro!
I love mma and i love boxing when there are great fights to be seen. I would love to see an exhibition match between Ronda and Floyd so Floyd could shut her up. And if Ronda by some miracle did win everyone would respect her and women mma so much more.
nice interview.
Let me put it like this: If at any time during the fight Ronda Rousey is able to secure a takedown and get him on the ground thus entering his guard, the fight would be over in a matter of seconds. That is simply the amazing power behind the science of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Now if Floyd can keep the fight standing utilizing a sprawl and brawl technique, the fight again would possibly be over in a matter of seconds because Ronda wouldn't be able to touch him and she would get counter punched and KTFO. Such is the power of the sweet science of boxing as well as Floyd's signature style defense; whom none can imitate quite like him...
Bro they are comparing a women to a man I don't care what she know SHE IS A WOMEN, All Floyd has to do is connect on one good punch and her ass gone be knocked out sleep I can't believe this is even a debate Floyd all day in order for her to have any chance she would have to get him to the ground and I doubt that would happen. So straight up throwing hands come on that's Floyd all day.
Orrala Dearborn And that's what I said straight throwing hands Floyd gone beat her ass i'm not talking about all that mma shit.
forrest They are though.
forrest
"Not talking about all that mma shit." Oh, you mean real fighting? Of fucking course he wins a boxing match, no one is disputing that, in an actual fight she'd annihilate him 9 times out of 10.
Boxing technique doesn't translate into mma. Punches need to be thrown differently and your weight distribution is completely different. After so many years of boxing, Mayweather isn't going to re-learn how to punch.
also, I do not think Floyd has one punch KO power. He connects cleanly more often than not, but if his first punch connects and isn't a KO, then he's already taken down and clueless on what to do.
LogicalThinker7991 No deal you funny doe she would get annihilated in a street fight what do people do boxer throw hands not all that mma shit kicking and all that shit. She can't beat in a boxing match nor a street fight you got damn lie about that.
I'm sure Rhonda's legs are longer and stronger than Floyd's arms
When the girl said "that armbar" I almost lost it.
The facts were all wrong. The story blew up when Joe Rogan said that Ronda Rousey would beat Floyd Mayweather in MMA because of her superior grappling.
Pettis said that Mayweather would win, and it's ridiculous to think otherwise.
henrysto depends. if it goes to the ground, then Ronda would win, and win without breaking a sweat. If it stays standing, then Mayweather wins, easily.
boz what makes you think he would win easily standing? Mayweather is not a devastating boxer leave alone striker, as a striker he's not even good
boz what makes you think he would win easily standing? Mayweather is not a devastating boxer leave alone striker, as a striker he's not even good
cesar sanchez Don't underestimate elite level boxing; that being said, Ronda would ankle pick him and then slap an arm bar on, no problem at all. Under MMA rules it wouldn't leave the 1st round
boz easy said, anything can happen in MMA.
It's interesting how little we know about fighting. Rhonda is an Olympic level Judo black belt and a champion pro MMA fighter who weighs the same as Mayweather AFTER losing weight for a match. Male or not you lose if throws, chokes and kicks are allowed.
***** lmaoooooooooo
you can see a scar on his right eye from his cut in the gus fight
The fact that I'm just hearing Jon Jones & Chandler Jones are brothers
WHAT DO YA THINK NOW JONNY BOY!!!
I love Jones man such a cool guy. I've tried to hate Ronda but evertime i see her on screen she's just amazing so intense and powerful. i have to face the fact that she is just one mean bad ass and i love it.
3:16 is a wormhole that opened up to the past, the gustaffson pain all over again ,freaky shit..
The moment that Floyd backs up even a little... Ronda would shoot in and take him down... then her killer arm-bar would work it's magic until he tapped out.
I could actually see that happening lol
Jones is smoked out on that comment. First off Rousey has no boxing skills. She couldnt even beat Holly Holms and Amanda Nunes. How the he'll is she gonna eat Floyd.
No doubt rousey is talented, but if someone actually thinks she could beat the greatest boxer of our generation in a fight that starts at a stand needs to be admitted. Rousey looks unbeatable against women they pull off the street and throw in the ring with her.
You must be really young if you think Mayweather is the greatest boxer of our generation. Mike Tyson was the best prime fighter to ever box. You better name a weight class if you're gonna say that. Also I can't call him the greatest if he doesn't fight Pacquiao, tell him to stop dodging.
DivisonOneBro Ok, 1. How would saying Mayweather is the best boxer of our generation show how young i am, Mayweather has been a pro for nearly 20 years. 2. Not gonna deny ya, i also think tyson was the best fighter ever, that why i clearly state Mayweather is the greatest BOXER of our generation. Nobody is on his level when it comes to technical boxing. 3. Nobody gives a shit what you cant call him
1 & 2. Tyson was quick, great defensively, and powerful., he's been around longer so if you think Mayweather is a better boxer in this generation then you must be young cause Mayweather is only quick and great defensively, he has no power. 3. He can't be considered great if he doesn't fight anyone great, he can't fight scrubs all the time.
DivisonOneBro Tyson and Mayweather are my favorite boxers so im not trashing tyson but his head movements was probably the best in boxing history but if you actually watch his fights whenever they made it out of the first round tyson would eat some punches as well. Theres a reason why May is still in his prime after 45 fights because he doesnt get hit. And if thats the logic that hes fought scrubs how can you say pacquiao is great seeing as then he has only fought scrubs because outside of a few people they have fought pretty much the same resume' but mayweather has fought the majority first.
He's fighting someone like Marcos Maidana instead of Pacquiao or Bradley who are obviously better boxers. He fights boxers who are statistically better for him which is why he also declined Margarito.
This is when people read the headline more than listen to how Jones talks and how his body language shows hes not being disrespectful at all,if anything its 100% true if Ronda some how got mayweather to the ground, how would he know what to do? He is a pro boxer. one of the biggest in that industry. same with Ronda in Women UFC. I gotta relate with Jones. Maybe if mayweather was some what of a grappler or wrestler she wouldn't have a chance, but she for sure has an advantage in one aspect of fighting.
There is no point comparing them,I think that just a stupid comparison.
I like how all these Floyd fanboys who know knowing about MMA/UFC saying Floyd would kick Ronda's ass. Pretty sure the No.1 rated Pound for Pound fighter in the UFC knows more than you.
He is also a MMA guy and the girl fights for his promotion. Listen, I've trained bjj for many years. Its stupid to say that she could beat Floyd. He would ko her. Now I do agree that she would easily sub Mayweather IF she could get him to the ground, but the problem is she would get knocked out and probably wouldn't even see the speed of the combo coming.
Richie Famus Mayweather will need at least 1 year of takedown and ground defense training before he enter a bout with Rousey. He probably can neutralize her offensive judo ground game and wait for the Ref to stand them back up. On their feet, I like Mayweather's chances for sure.
Phil Ster no way someone with one years worth of training can neutralize her ground game. Chances of floyd knocking her out very big but also chances of him being to aggressive and playing into rondas judo throws are also very big, his only chance would be to KO her, but then again this fight will never happen so it's whatever.
Bas Rutten and Joe Rogan believes a non-MMA fighter needs about 6 months - 1 year training to familiarize one self with the ground game.
I believe so too. A fighter will not become an expert in that time but will know what to expect and have a defensive plan in place to neutralize the grappler's strategy.
Way back in UFC 14, Kickboxer Maurice Smith defeated Wrestler Mark Coleman by neutralizing his offensive ground game, eventually wearing Coleman out. Once back on their feet, a totally gassed Coleman was not proficient at the stand-up game and got punched and kicked repeatedly until time expired. This match was considered 1 of the 3 most important match in UFC history by long-time Referee, John McCarthy.
This should be the ideal blueprint for a pro boxer like Mayweather.
I don't think Mayweather needs to KO her with 1 punch. He just need to neutralize her ground game, wear her down, and once back up ( either by the Ref or by his own escape ), he can then punch her repeatedly and rack up points or get the TKO.
The ground game is more mental than physical. The stand up game, on the other hand, is more physical than mental. Can Rousey absorb all the blows by Mayweather? I doubt it. (against Holm or Carano, yes maybe, but not Mayweather)
You and me both know she'll go right for that arm bar, people that have been training bjj or wrestled for years get picked off by it from rousey, I'm more than sure she wouldn't have a problem picking off an arm bar from someone with 6 months to a year of training on the ground.
People who think Ronda would beat Floyd purely because he doesn't have a "ground game" or whatever are ignorant. You think it's that easy to just take someone to the ground, or tackle them or get a hold of them? Floyd has one of the fastest hands in the world, the second Ronda ducks her head, or lunges out for some grab, it's lights out, that's happened to plenty of MMA fighters, and it would be even worse with Floyd because punching is literally all he does.
Lol no, for starters a common known fact is that floyd has brittle hands resulting in a lack of knockout power. Ronda has been hit with punches of a much higher caliber and has still won. You probably have not trained in jujitsu or even judo because you're entire argument was ignorant. He may be fast but he's still a clincher and would still be beaten easily by Ronda. If he had knockout power then it would be a much better fight. Men do have more muscle mass than girls and would hurt her more than her previous fight but the fact of the matter is he doesn't.
Shewab Mahmood But aren't you being ignorant?? How does he not have knockout power, over %50 of his fights are knockouts, i think if most of your fights are knockouts you have knockout power lol
He overpowers them with his fast hands and the fact he wears heavily padded gloves. In the octagon he'd wear less padded gloves which would in turn limit him. Knockout power is something which mike Tyson, Ronda rousey and others have whereas mayweather has extremely sharp snap punches or counter punches.
He's fast you're right, but also powerful, he doesn't have to be as powerful as mike tyson to have "knockout power"..No one has the knockout power of Mike Tyson, and how does Ronda Rousey have knockout power and floyd doesn't?? most of her fights end in arm bars, while most of floyd's end in knockouts. Also having less padded gloves would make floyd's hitting power much more effective.
kobedbest hes not a knockout artist. Hes not a mike tyson, roberto duran, marvin hagler, tommy hearns, felix trinidad. His knockouts come from outboxing his opponents, breaking them down, and catching them off balance, not one punch knockouts like the guys i mentioned. He wouldnt be in the top 200 list of all time hardest punchers.
Why are people thinking its even fair for a boxer to fight a mma fighter with mma rules like are these people saying ronda should also fight floyd in boxing?
I Agree with JJ. He was being humble and said it how it was. She competes at the highest level of ground game and FM doesn't. End story the dude is as small as her. She's crazy strong and could take almost anyone talking crap about her on UA-cam channels.
floyd destroy ronda ....... ko in 20 sec
It's just baseless commenting.
Rousay said she would beat him but in a joke, there is a video of her saying it was a joke and that it got blown out of proportion.
Mayweather is heavier than Rousay and he's a MAN
***** Even if he got in a clinch Mayweather is still a man who outweight Rousay.
If Jones has ever play wrestled with his gf he will know the strength difference between the sexes.
You can't erase millions of years of evolution like nothing
HAVE YOU EVEN DONE BJJ BEFORE? THERE IS A REASON THERE IS AN OPEN WEIGHT DIVISION IN BJJ. ITS BECAUSE THE WEIGHT DOESNT PLAY A HUGE FACTOR IN BJJ. Helio Gracie was tapping everyone out and he was 55kg. Mayather would get owned. Judo isn't about strength it's about the position of the hips.
Awac1 lol spotted another guy who doesnt know shit
Ryan Lee No strikes in bjj.
grahamhg Against women of course
this fight seriously needs to happen. get on it dana.
Prank vs prank has that cat
this is the most ridiculous debate ver in mma, thanks Pettis for be real and not lick ball like other people, why dont debate if Ronda can beat Cyborg?
because she can't. Rousey is basically hiding in her current weight class to dodge a fight with Cyborg.
Because Cyborg ditched her UFC contract and her shot at Ronda, then went on to fail her drug tests as many suspected was inevitable. She wants to bait the 135 pound champ of an org she ditched to come up in weight to fight her, because she has found out how irrelevant she is.
In short, the ball is in Cyborgs court and always has been. If she wants to fight Ronda, than she needs to man up, make 135 and resign with the UFC. Until she does those things, her and her fans need to STFU.
I don't have any problem debating about rousey vs cyborg, but vs mayweather.... please just no!
pettis said it would be "ridiculous to think otherwise." it would be ridiculous to think that ronda COULDN'T beat him. he thinks she would win too
bleacherreport.com/articles/2034020-anthony-pettis-ridiculous-to-think-ronda-rousey-would-beat-floyd-mayweather
Bones was really on that dope
He's such a nice guy for a mma fighter !!
@Ahmed Alhatmi How ???
Rousy would dominate Mayweather in an MMA fight, and Floyd would dominate her in a boxing match. Simple stuff people.
Rousey would lose In a MMA MATCH TOO
The difference is Mayweather can go to the UFC and train for probably 2 years ground and wrestling tactics, he is a genius once he puts his mind on something, he can learn new things and actually beat Ronda Rousey, lets not forget Ronda has been fighting unknown females all her career and to back her strength up she brags about how she spars men in sparring but sparring is not an actual fight you can spar heavyweights but once you get in that ring your fighting someone who has better defense better skill and has faced much better opposition than you ever will in your whole life time.
now can ronda go in boxing and become an all time great? can she stay undefeated for 20 years? can she be a 5 division world champ? can she beat all 47 opponents floyd has faced? NO NEVER EVER!! IMPOSSOBLE! but now can floyd go in UFC and beat the girls ronda has faced i guess that's a stupid question but people are to stupid to realize how can you compare the best boxer of this era to an unknown chick fighting unknown females, its stupid to compare the both.
Foyd would shit all over Ronda Rousey's opposition because lets face it her opposition is JOKES!
True. But Floyd doesn't need MMA, they get paid minimum wage compare to what Floyd gets paid. Ahahahaha
Lucas Martinez You're an idiot. I guess the opposistion IN THE FUCKING OLYMPICS wasnt up to your standards.
***** in the olympics they dont allow kicks punches knees, elbows, so no the opposition in the olympics was minor.
Lucas Martinez In boxing they ONLY allow punching. So by your logic ALL Mayweathers competition was minor.
Lucas Martinez HE could train for 10 years and he would still get killed i
Love UFC as much as the next guy but Floyd is in amazing shape and is lightning fast compared to Rousey... whose main weakness is stand up. He would hit her( probably KO her then and there) but if not he would just dart out.. she wouldn't be able to grab him and if she did I think he would have the power to push her off standing head on.. -__________-
+The Bomb54 The difference is Rhonda , or other female mma fighter or an other male mma fighter , has to do things like hitting Floyd in the legs or put him down , things that Floyd hasn't ever trained for , in order to beat him.
Meanwhile , every mma fighter trains a lot in boxing and still no mma fighter would have a chance against Mayweather , in a boxing match . That's the big difference
And Floyd would destroy Ronda in Boxing fight. Before she takes Floyd down she will need to catch him first. And I doubt she could.
Real talk, buddy Damata Xama Capoeira
If he's close enough to hit her, he's close enough to get taken down. If she didn't get knocked out first, he'd be hitting the deck, but trying to hit someone who's not trying to hit you, and only trying to take you down is much more difficult than it looks on TV. That's the problem. Once on the ground, it's not just unlikely that Floyd would win, it's nearly impossible...unless he's got ground skills we don't know about. He's way stronger and faster...wouldn't save him. Go try jiu jitsu at a bigger gym where there's a few upper level women training, and try them out. It'll change your mind.
1A
I really like the way you describes this approach. But I doubt Ronda get that close to Floyd while he is using his footwork and throwing massive uppercuts and straight right hand on Ronda's chin. The best she could have is to swallow Floyd's shots. She will never catch the TBE.
sorry son, Olympic Judo medalist will throw Floyd to the ground before he can land any significant strike. If floyd was a one hit knockout artist, i could agree with you but thats just not the case
Killertofu
A judo medallist is not always the best in the world. That means she was well prepared and had a chance to overpower her opponent. I am not going to discredit her judo skills. But a judoka (as we call a judo athlete in french) needs a contact even the smallest one. How could you throw someone down if you cannot catch him? hun! This is senseless. Keeping his distance for at least 3 minutes from Ronda, Floyd will have more than one chance to land supersonic uppercut and his terrific right hand that will destroy Ronda. He might not be one hit knock-out artist but his shots will not do any good to Ronda the same way these shots haven't done any good to his males fighters opponents.
Jon Jones himself secretly knows that Ronda will not stand against Floyd but he has to be political correct as he defends his sport and because he has fucked Ronda in the past.
For me it will not be fair cause it's about style and sport opposition. Unless Floyd learns MMA or Ronda practices Boxing then thing could sound OK.
Two totally different sports. How can you even compare them to each other?
Exactly, Ronda can beat most ppl (Floyd) in MMA. And floyd can beat most ppl (Ronda) at boxing. no big surprise there at all.
Eessa Askar You dont give rhonda enough credit, shes not the average girl shes very strong and has mastered her craft. she will drop floyd in MMA style fight no doubt about it. and of course no one can hang wit floyd in a boxing match. anyways you are right its a stupid premise.
Eessa Askar
Floyd is fast he don't even hit hard hes a punk lol.
jones hates being hated.
If he gets taken down yes she'll dominate, but if he started striking with his speed before hand he might have an edge.
I don't even know why this is a discussion, MMA is a entirely different sport. In a MMA fight, It's a no brainer Mayweather would lose since he's a "BOXER".
MMA is for folks who can't be "boxers".. because the sport is too tough to break into.. unlike MMA.
Tony Bambino haha ur such a troll
Tony Bambino
you are way off. boxing is a small aspect of the total skills required to fight mma. boxing has too many rules which prevents it from being a real fight - its a gentleman's sport but its not a true fighting art. mma is for warriors not sportsmen.
WTF? Are you serious? The rules are what make it a sport.... It's not a street fight, it's not supposed to be a street fight.. that's why its called boxing..
Boxing is harder to do.. it has nothing to do with rules.. it's a much more complex sport to learn.. you don't get to hide from a good punch with grapples... grappling is much easier to learn.. it's why MMA has so many weak/sloppy punchers...
If MMA was for warriors... why do so many MMA fighters have weak chins.. dudes getting knocked out with fucking jabs in MMA.. that's laughable...
Tony Bambino People get knocked out in Boxing, MMA fighters have to take head kicks... Stop with this hate towards MMA, Boxing is an amazing sport and is ONE aspect of MMA. Boxers wouldn't be able to make it in MMA, MMA fighters wouldn't be able to make it in boxing. MMA is the closest thing we have to street fighting that is legal and not dirty.
LOL at you boxing fans. Has your sense of masculinity been tarnished? Yes, Ronda would destroy Mayweather in any setting outside of the boxing ring. Deal with it.
MMA fan and grappler. Floyd would destroy Rhonda in any setting. Stop it. Well if Rhonda surprised him and grabbed him first, its all over. But other than that, she will get ko'd fairly quickly. In fact I've seen her a little stunned by a chick in the ufc during stand up. She's got to get close enough to grab him to take him down and if we were talking about Aldo I would certainly agree with you, but Rhonda would go to sleep. Being a great offensively talented woman doesn't make you able to take elite level striking from a male any better. Stop it.
Richie Famus
And what if Mayweather doesn't land anything significant during the transition? He's got literally no takedown defense. Of course if he landed a clean punch she'd probably be out like a light, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of her getting close enough to get him to the ground (hypothetically speaking).
Scramblieggs No, your right I wouldn't rule it out either. But its highly unlikely that the pound for pound best boxer on the planet couldn't land a significant punch on a female who is smaller and WORLDS slower than he is, and who has about as much defense against his punches as he has against a take down. Everyone acts as if Floyd can't train to learn how to stop take downs if such a crazy fight was ever made. C'mon, just because you're a boxer you are not capable of learning take down defense? But I agree that she hurts him if she got him on the ground.
k lets break it down, in an MMA fight, it starts standing advantage-mayweather, theres grappling aloud advantage-ronda, strength advantage-mayweather, hand speed advantage-mayweather, reflexes advantage-mayweather (i would note that the grappling advantage ronda has is a big advantage). now how about a boxing match, oh wait mayweather is better in absolutely every category considered in boxing. plus hes like 37.
Floyd:"I don't even know who he is"?
anybody who doesnt understand MMA thinks Floyd wins, you guys dont understand the second she gets a hold of Floyd he goes flying to the ground and gets submitted right away, the only way Floyd wins is on the feet and as Rousey has said she gonna crawl and do some crazy shit to avoid the stand up and just get a hold of him right away, so unless Floyd knocks her out on the way in shes finishes him quickly
Judo throw and arm bar her best weapons
If Floyd signed up to fight Rousey he'd be training mma for months before the fight and would know not to let her get too close for a judo throw and he'd knock her out with one punch. Man strength and woman strength are at different levels. His speed and power would be nothing like the women Rousey has fought before and be too much for her to handle..
You do realise that mma is more than punching ...the stance is completely different if floyd even trains for months and a year that is not enough boxing and mma 2 different sports floyd cant compete in mma and ronda cant compete in boxing....thats it ..in a boxing bout of course floyd would win no contest in mma ronda all the way once she shoots in and gets him on the ground its over ..you cant c0mpare the 2
Just another floyd fan boy
+Patrick O'Reilly just some months of training isn't enough to defend against an Olympic medaling judo practitioner, if she grabs a hold of you its over
This really fucked me off from Jon. He's a clever guy, but he's following the puppet master Dana Right with these comments. For all of those so called MMA fans who have watched a few men and women's ufc fights, a few seasons of tuf and who think they know all about combat sports, let me set you straight.
Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer in the world at the moment. Do you understand? The BEST boxer in the world. He has been undefeated in 47 fights, breaking Ali's, Tyson's, Sugar Ray Leonard and Sugar Ray Robinson's records. Even if you want to debate all this shit with the current division and Pacquiao and whatever, you can't deny Floyd is a beast. Man he is so quick- lightning fast.
Ronda fucking Rousey is gonna claim she can beat him in MMA? Agreed- she is a very impressive woman, and I've heard that cinema shit from Dana many times over so please spare me.
BUT striking is by far the most effective form of winning fights in MMA. Don't believe me? Ask Dana White. Ask Jon Jones. Go watch Brock Lesnar's last 2 fights against Cain and Alistair. Floyd is so quick, and such a defensive fighter, Ronda would have to eat at least 5 shots standing before she could get her hands on him for a takedown. If she got the takedown, she would take 5 more on the mat, and with Floyd's power and pin-point accuracy ability to hit the temple she would be lying unconscious where she belongs with her head between Floyd's legs before she could go for any of the precious armbar's all you fanboys are suggesting. She would never ever knock him out, and I would bet everything I own, then go to the bank and demand the highest loan, and bet that on her being unable to submit him before he TKO'd her. He wouldn't need any takedown defence training. When you have the best striking ability in the world, why the fuck would you fear judo throws?
I don't like Floyd as a guy, but he is straight up, unlike most of these guys in the UFC today.
I'm a big MMA and UFC fan, Chael Sonnen and Frank Mir are my two favourite athletes in the world. But don't make fools of yourselves by blinding jumping on the UFC promotion hype bandwagon. Dana white is a promoter, and controversy= money. It's just not sensible. Do your damn research.
I didn't get all of that. Could you repeat that?
mrprestigeous127 Enjoy yourself. She's been dead for 14 years. Didn't know that UA-cam allowed necrophiliacs on their web.
Preach
Rousey's throws, transitions, pins, arm bars came from her Judo background. She didn't learn it from Jiu Jitsu.
How TIME changes YOU over TIME
Floyed cant fight...Everybody know
Now that sound dum
Melvin Washington It's true. Floyd can't fight. Queensbury rules is NOT fighting.
Fight starts standing and if Floyd times a punch or combo, when in range, its over. If Ronda gets a hold of him, its her fight. She's thrown way larger people than him before. But I'm a fan of them both and its just a fun hypothetical topic. And btw WAR COLTS! ;)
Floyd beats her up in both MMA and Boxing even the fight stipulates that it begins with Ronda mounted up on him
this debate is stupid, its like asking who would win in a tennis match serena williams or messi, because they both have balls in their sport
If you give Floyd those ufc gloves his hand speed would be crazy. He would catch Ronda so easily on the chin haha
Its interesting looking at the opinions of boxing fans on mma.
When it comes to Ronda vs. Mayweather..She better takes him down quick before getting knocked out. If she does,, floyd will have to tap like a bitch..
Yea idk, I think I'm going to go with Floyd because he is fast af and I think he would be able to avoid the takedown, however if he can't then game over Ronda wins
What does saying she can take Floyd really mean. I'm not bias but does it mean she'll beat him or just last a few rounds?
Jon is right. If you have ever been on the ground with someone who is a jiu jitsu blackbelt... even if you have training in jiu jitsu. Even if youre a blue belt. Its like you are drowning. The more technique you use, the more you get countered and it really does feel like you a drowning. Ronda would kick and kick and kick at Floyds legs as a counter to his style- and eventually bomb rush him against the cage. Once they wrap up, it will be extremely easy for Ronda to take Floyd down. and there is literally no way for him to get back up. But floyd's hands are so fast and powerful compared to anything shes faced... unfortunately Ronda would have no intentions of being in striking range...
Boxing is going strong Mayweather has seen enough money in 1 day than these UFC fighters will ever see
Yea i agree with Jones that Rounda would win right now. But i think that, of course, if Mayweather can train like a wrestler/judo/jujitsu for a while, then he could beat her up....obviously
Anyone who even considered Floyd with only his boxing needs to go to a BJJ academy to go through their white belt faze.
JON JONES IS THE REASON I WATCH UFC
what's the name of the chick on the far left with the british accent?
Who would win in a ball game, David Beckham or Tom Brady?
lol
Jon must of hit the pipe before this interview
If Floyd can knock her out before she takes him down than he wins, but those judo throws are powerful, even for a man like Floyd. He doesn't deal with take down defence.
In an mma fight unless floyd gets good punches in he will loss it doesn't matter if you are a Men or women if you can fight and take punches then you can take on anyone
Jon Hones is a friend of Ronda...of course he's going to say this, lol.
Providing she could get in without getting tagged...
@ 3:15 he gets minecraft poop on his eye. then he wipes it off.
I would also put my money on Ronda. The Gracies clearly proved the superiority of grappling over striking through the years, and not only is Ronda good on the ground, shes also extremely good at judo and shes done that her whole life. While the Gracies may be better than her on the ground, I have to say her takedowns are superior because of her extensive training in judo. Her hands arent bad. They may be compared to Floyds, but they arent bad and id still put my money on her
funny how there is an actual argument for a girl beating the best pound per pound male boxer in the world.
that just shows how big the skill gap is between MMA and boxing.