100 % correct. Perhaps that is because this news does not involve their favourite gas lighter Jacinda Ardern ( she who screwed this once wonderful country into the ground , record debt and increased mental illness ), and then took the money and departed to more worshipful grounds, i.e. Harvard , teaching leadership, yep hard to believe but true.
I don't understand why you would trust a man who has proven time and time again that he cannot be trusted. It's all about winston as far as Peters is concerned , as it always has been.
@@mack0909 A top matured surgeon, would be hard to replace due to thousands of operations. Another surgeon with substantially a less amount of operations, and experience on problems that occur while operating, could make mistakes and death occurs. Their is a surgeon in his 80s, right now, who is irreplaceable as his knowledge is life saving. I would choose the older surgeon with thousands of operations under his belt, just in case problems arise. My views only.
However. If there was a cartoon character assigned to him . Sadly it would be Noddy. Winnie has way more Charisma and Wisdom and is not a little Gnome with his little car
Luxton is very new to parliament he has never been in the house he really needs Winstons help. Semour and Luxton are have just 9 years to Winstones 45 years experiance. Its not about who you love or dislike. This is about running a our country.
Going by that logic, Peters has been there the longest, Seymour second and then Luxon. So in any way you cut it, Seymour gets deputy. The argument is about the other two positions. It's either done on experience or on seats controlled by the parties.
Great Choice opting for Winston- Been in the game for decades, He would diffinitely know the ins and outs, Seymour is not ready or even close to being Deputy PM..
Go david. Winston has had his chance. I think Winston should be minister of broadcasting now that would be interesting. Either way I think 1 news will be getting a funding cut.
David Seymour been there 9 years, still a fairly long time. I'm sure if someone told Jim he was still learning after 9 years he'd be pretty offended... new blood I think, Winston has had his chance and done nothing special.
Watching David Seymour in his tantrums, and Winnie using fact based research, I prefer researched facts. David needs atleast another 10 years knowledge, I reckon before he would be suitable for the role.
I agree with the honourable Jim Bolger, Winston Peters has the experience to be a Deputy PM to hit the ground running. Our country needs to form a stable government, so I would hope that the most qualified person would get the job. The National and Act parties need to realise that if it wasn't for Winston Peters, that there wouldn't be a coalition agreement in the first place, but I think having Seymour would be Luxon's choice in the DP role & a strategic power play. They didn't get the concensus to form a government together, so positioning the two party leaders in the top jobs would be the next best thing, However its not just about the parties self interest but forming a stable government for the people of Aotearoa, New Zealand.
Winston is the more experience of all three . Represents our country well , Seymour show's arrogance it probably comes out of ignorance . Egotistical . that could be dangerous if all he wants is the title . Luxon is more approachable open to learning. He knows that he could learn much from Winston . David is more likely to hijack Luxon cause he sees him as weak .yet weakness could be your strength . Winston would nuture that into strength for Luxon , Seymour doesn't have the networks thats required for the job . Nevermind the experience Winston has titiles under his belt , been there done ✅ Seymour is too immature . Has no nortical idea how to steer the waka forward if Luxons compass goes off course . Which could leave Luxon vulnerable . This waka is to steer us through the waters and storms ahead calmly navigating . Luxons sight through the winds and storms ahead . And of course he has his righthand man there to minister his way forward cause Shane really is a Minister . They have a great support team behind them . They would have learnt from their failures . Show me what a perfect man or woman looks like .lets take back our country and make it great again . Have our people back in employment , have the sick well again help keep crime down . Lets not meet the criteria that is expected by the international monetary funding . By having high statistics ... Cause that money doesn't meet our needs . We get left with the crumbs after our consultants have taken their bit out .na mihi nui kia korua Jenny May me Jim .👍 Kia kaha koe Winston 🛡️⚔️🪖 soldier us forward 😊
So what. The way the treaty has been interpreted is also divisive. Waitangi tribunal was supposed to be full and final settlement. Turns out to be the thin edge of the wedge and allowed Māori to invent a grievance process which will never end until they’ve destroyed our democracy, and bankrupted the country.
@@jasperhorace7147 Have you any idea of how much we stole from them? Are you aware that the Māori version of the Treaty is the one we have to abide by? Under international law the legitimacy of our government rests on that treaty. Yes it’s an internationally recognised treaty, which means the actions of our ancestors can still bind us. We should either shape up and recognise that it’s not all about financial recompense and that there are issues of governance still to be sorted out, or we should ship out. Of course we are not going to do that, but the notion that the white majority can just steamroll Māori into giving up rights that were guaranteed under Te Tiriti won’t just divide Pakeha and Māori: it will divide the whole of society. Let’s not go there.
@@q.e.d.9112 I’ve stolen nothing from them. Nobody in my family has ever owned a piece of land in New Zealand which wasn’t paid for at the then market rate. I refuse to be guilted into believing endless sums of money will change history.
How is it divisive? Waitangi tribunal was meant to be full and final settlement...that doesn't even make since? Do you know what the Waitangi tribunal is... THEY,VE destroyed OUR democracy... there's no them and us, we're all kiwis. You're the one that sounds divisive. Destroyed our democracy and bankrupted the country? Ngai tahu treaty settlement was 170m, a combination of land and money. Ngai tahu injects 200m into the economy annually. That's a good return for tax payer money if you want to look at it like that. Similar to bailing air NZ out of 80m, it's good money spent because the money that gets pumped into the economy. The real problem when it comes to the treaty topic (and the maori topic in general) is ignorance. I don't think you're stupid, but you're definitely out of your depth. This is why a referendum on this would be a bad idea 1. The ignorant and 2. The racists Leave it to the professionals and stop stressing yourself over it. Maori aren't the bad guys, the treaty settlements has been a good thing.
Jim Bolger is doing very well for 88 - Go Jim !!! because you're an old guy - I never voted anyway - I just got my daughter out and turned around to show Jims face beside mine - I'm 10 years younger than Jim and the bastard wins - Only shows Bolger was a Yes Man - the skin Wrinkles I have are all from been a "Not a yes man in Your Life Time Man"
I think that experience is what is best for the government. Winston Peter's would be best choice. After the past bad governing. We all had to live thru. Good luck to poth canadates.
“Fairness” doesn’t come into it, and nor should it. Personally, I agree with Jim Bolger: they badly need people with cabinet level experience. Winston is perfectly acceptable at Foreign Affairs, IMO and managed fine as acting PM, during Jacinda’s maternity leave.
Weather we have a referendum or not is besides the point. We need to have a discussion about the treaty interpretation and make it clear about what it is. Because how it is interpreted is causing alot of division. Did Maori give up Sovereignty, etc.... That can be sorted through referendum or the usual parliamentary way of making a law.
IF you think we are a United country just go listen to the likes of willie Jackson and company. We also have to endure being called the whites, (pakeha) all day long and that is their nicest term. I don't go around calling them the Mungu's.
Typical Boomers promoting their own generation to get more than they are entitled to. ACT got more % of the vote and more seats in parliament than Winston it's that simple. If you want to play the experience game, Peters has been there the longest so he gets leader, Seymour second longest so he gets deputy and then Luxon. Or its done on seats and votes 🗳 So any way you cut it, Seymour gets deputy. The argument is about the other two positions. It's either done on experience or on seats controlled by the parties.
The leverage Peters seems to have is out of all proportion to the number of votes his party got. There’s so much wrong with MMP and the way it’s interpreted in New Zealand.
OMG we can actually comment on our our national news network ... they throw us a bone now and again ... thank you PRICKS !!!!
😂💯CLOWNS!!!!!
Bet they will remove any comments they disagree with
Absolutely right they are using the comment section turbed off because the woje nedia dont want to gear our opinions on anything
There are $55 million reasons why they are afraid to let truth lose, but people waking up.
100 % correct. Perhaps that is because this news does not involve their favourite gas lighter Jacinda Ardern ( she who screwed this once wonderful country into the ground , record debt and increased mental illness ), and then took the money and departed to more worshipful grounds, i.e. Harvard , teaching leadership, yep hard to believe but true.
Jim Bolger, one of our most charismatic PMs and generally admired. He used to walk down the street alone. That says a lot
Winston has the experience without a doubt. So he is my choice.
@@mack0909so have u?
I don't understand why you would trust a man who has proven time and time again that he cannot be trusted. It's all about winston as far as Peters is concerned , as it always has been.
@@mack0909 we all die, my sister died at 3 years old from meningitis. My friend lived to 100. Winston is not sick, so no one foot in the grave.
@@mack0909 A top matured surgeon, would be hard to replace due to thousands of operations. Another surgeon with substantially a less amount of operations, and experience on problems that occur while operating, could make mistakes and death occurs. Their is a surgeon in his 80s, right now, who is irreplaceable as his knowledge is life saving. I would choose the older surgeon with thousands of operations under his belt, just in case problems arise. My views only.
@@mack0909 gives you an idea on how experience is vital. The Government will at times have to make life saving decisions.
Yes to Winston,
Bolger is my fav Nats PM ever. He is still as sharp too.
He speaks well and just enjoyable to listen too.
This is a really nice interview. It reminds me of the days when the interviewer actually allowed the interviewee, to speak.
David Seymour has worked the hardest for the spot.
Too emotional
However. If there was a cartoon character assigned to him . Sadly it would be Noddy.
Winnie has way more Charisma and Wisdom and is not a little Gnome with his little car
@@Shegotsomethintosay If you're assigning cartoon characters... Pooh.
The 90s PM brought some good memories listening Jim! He's my PM growing up!
Luxton is very new to parliament he has never been in the house he really needs Winstons help. Semour and Luxton are have just 9 years to Winstones 45 years experiance. Its not about who you love or dislike. This is about running a our country.
Going by that logic, Peters has been there the longest, Seymour second and then Luxon.
So in any way you cut it, Seymour gets deputy.
The argument is about the other two positions.
It's either done on experience or on seats controlled by the parties.
Do you mean ruining the country?
*Luxon
Experience is more logical, Luxon requires a research fact based support. David's tantrums is a warning, red flag.
😂NZ already devided.
Yessssss!!!! Please let’s have a real politician there and not just a CEO ✊🏽 We need Winston, we need his experience 🤞🏽
Great Choice opting for Winston- Been in the game for decades, He would diffinitely know the ins and outs,
Seymour is not ready or even close to being Deputy PM..
Winston. Peter. Should. Retired. Like. You. Sir. Mr. Jim. Bolger. God. Bless. Soifua.
Wow didnt realise Bolger was still alive, good on him. Good advice…
I saw david loosing it and displaying horrible anger on the platform ,he has shown hes too volatile
Yes that disgraceful didplay if absolute hatred cost act at the election giving winston his comeback
A tresty referendum is esential to settle the matter we cant gave 15% of the population dictaing how new Zealand is being governed
Of miss coffin dogger had to inject her self into the segment some how she is a nacicist and self serving at every opportunity
@@pgreen8531do your research instead of guessing.
Go david. Winston has had his chance. I think Winston should be minister of broadcasting now that would be interesting.
Either way I think 1 news will be getting a funding cut.
Winnie for deputy P.M 😌
Yes Jim you bloody legend.. things take time .. 😂😂 again media wrong😂
Has to be Winston! No point putting Seymour as deputy PM as he will need baby sitting anyways… 🥵
David Seymour been there 9 years, still a fairly long time. I'm sure if someone told Jim he was still learning after 9 years he'd be pretty offended... new blood I think, Winston has had his chance and done nothing special.
Has David been in Cabinet?
Has David been DPM Winnie was in parliament before David was even born. PS Im a SEYMOUR supporter 2nd to Winnie
So we are not divided now.
No. Winston wouldn't want this ceremonial role.
Give it to David. He really wants it apparently.
Really? that the only thing Winston wants. Look at his career. He always wants deputy PM.
Watching David Seymour in his tantrums, and Winnie using fact based research, I prefer researched facts. David needs atleast another 10 years knowledge, I reckon before he would be suitable for the role.
we need laughs ok.
Winston usually likes foreign minister doesnt he
Any smart NZder will say Winston Peter's.
With or without the apostrophe
Yes Winston
Winston Peters for PM???..
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
yes Winston's been in a while, yet...
Perhaps the foremost reason the twain want the deputy prime ministership is so the other can't have it... 😜
WINSTON !
I agree with the honourable Jim Bolger, Winston Peters has the experience to be a Deputy PM to hit the ground running. Our country needs to form a stable government, so I would hope that the most qualified person would get the job. The National and Act parties need to realise that if it wasn't for Winston Peters, that there wouldn't be a coalition agreement in the first place, but I think having Seymour would be Luxon's choice in the DP role & a strategic power play. They didn't get the concensus to form a government together, so positioning the two party leaders in the top jobs would be the next best thing, However its not just about the parties self interest but forming a stable government for the people of Aotearoa, New Zealand.
I’d be happy if Winnie gets Foreign Affairs and Deputy PM. And, yes, they definitely need his experience.
... and finance!
Winston best.Our incoming prime minister looks like Muldoon, just saying
Winston is the more experience of all three . Represents our country well , Seymour show's arrogance it probably comes out of ignorance . Egotistical . that could be dangerous if all he wants is the title . Luxon is more approachable open to learning. He knows that he could learn much from Winston . David is more likely to hijack Luxon cause he sees him as weak .yet weakness could be your strength . Winston would nuture that into strength for Luxon , Seymour doesn't have the networks thats required for the job . Nevermind the experience Winston has titiles under his belt , been there done ✅ Seymour is too immature . Has no nortical idea how to steer the waka forward if Luxons compass goes off course . Which could leave Luxon vulnerable . This waka is to steer us through the waters and storms ahead calmly navigating . Luxons sight through the winds and storms ahead . And of course he has his righthand man there to minister his way forward cause Shane really is a Minister . They have a great support team behind them . They would have learnt from their failures . Show me what a perfect man or woman looks like .lets take back our country and make it great again . Have our people back in employment , have the sick well again help keep crime down . Lets not meet the criteria that is expected by the international monetary funding . By having high statistics ... Cause that money doesn't meet our needs . We get left with the crumbs after our consultants have taken their bit out .na mihi nui kia korua Jenny May me Jim .👍 Kia kaha koe Winston 🛡️⚔️🪖 soldier us forward 😊
Yes he is right
The reality is the job requires huge input and energy which increasingly diminishes in our 70s (from experience). Experience helps but is not enough.
They are shiting them selves.. Winston is in ❤😂
I strongly believe Luxon should apoint 3 deputy primeministers to resolve this deputy pm issues in the coalition.
How would that work in practice? Three way decision making on everything? Sounds messy
And it definitely wouldn't want to be Willis and she sure as hell shouldn't be Finance Minister
Agree with you Mr Bolger, a referendum over the Treaty would be divisive.
So what. The way the treaty has been interpreted is also divisive. Waitangi tribunal was supposed to be full and final settlement. Turns out to be the thin edge of the wedge and allowed Māori to invent a grievance process which will never end until they’ve destroyed our democracy, and bankrupted the country.
@@jasperhorace7147
Have you any idea of how much we stole from them?
Are you aware that the Māori version of the Treaty is the one we have to abide by?
Under international law the legitimacy of our government rests on that treaty. Yes it’s an internationally recognised treaty, which means the actions of our ancestors can still bind us.
We should either shape up and recognise that it’s not all about financial recompense and that there are issues of governance still to be sorted out, or we should ship out.
Of course we are not going to do that, but the notion that the white majority can just steamroll Māori into giving up rights that were guaranteed under Te Tiriti won’t just divide Pakeha and Māori: it will divide the whole of society.
Let’s not go there.
@@q.e.d.9112 I’ve stolen nothing from them. Nobody in my family has ever owned a piece of land in New Zealand which wasn’t paid for at the then market rate. I refuse to be guilted into believing endless sums of money will change history.
How is it divisive?
Waitangi tribunal was meant to be full and final settlement...that doesn't even make since? Do you know what the Waitangi tribunal is...
THEY,VE destroyed OUR democracy... there's no them and us, we're all kiwis. You're the one that sounds divisive.
Destroyed our democracy and bankrupted the country? Ngai tahu treaty settlement was 170m, a combination of land and money. Ngai tahu injects 200m into the economy annually. That's a good return for tax payer money if you want to look at it like that. Similar to bailing air NZ out of 80m, it's good money spent because the money that gets pumped into the economy.
The real problem when it comes to the treaty topic (and the maori topic in general) is ignorance. I don't think you're stupid, but you're definitely out of your depth. This is why a referendum on this would be a bad idea 1. The ignorant and 2. The racists
Leave it to the professionals and stop stressing yourself over it. Maori aren't the bad guys, the treaty settlements has been a good thing.
There is a question regarding experience
Good judgment comes from experience . Experience comes from bad judgment people like you isn’t it ?
Jim Bolger is doing very well for 88 - Go Jim !!! because you're an old guy - I never voted anyway - I just got my daughter out and turned around to show Jims face beside mine - I'm 10 years younger than Jim and the bastard wins - Only shows Bolger was a Yes Man - the skin Wrinkles I have are all from been a "Not a yes man in Your Life Time Man"
Peter for
Nice backstory at the end
Calm, thoughtful approach = avoid questions lol agree re: Dep PM and no to referendum Mr Bolger 👍
jeanie may must have gpt the message just interview the person and keep your feelngs to your shelf
I think that experience is what is best for the government. Winston Peter's would be best choice. After the past bad governing. We all had to live thru. Good luck to poth canadates.
Refreshing to hear from Mr Bolger.
One is a snivilling upstart..one is an elder statesman...
No. He has less number. It is not fair
“Fairness” doesn’t come into it, and nor should it. Personally, I agree with Jim Bolger: they badly need people with cabinet level experience. Winston is perfectly acceptable at Foreign Affairs, IMO and managed fine as acting PM, during Jacinda’s maternity leave.
In 20 years Kiwis that read what I've written on this page will be saying "How Did He Know?"
Weather we have a referendum or not is besides the point. We need to have a discussion about the treaty interpretation and make it clear about what it is. Because how it is interpreted is causing alot of division. Did Maori give up Sovereignty, etc.... That can be sorted through referendum or the usual parliamentary way of making a law.
just educate yourself, read a book or somfing
Bolger needs to keep out of it
The one lesson ive learned is we dont need a govt so 🤷 let them wait maybe if we can go a year without one
Get rid of this woke biased newscaster asap
Jim Bludger
Winnie.
have people really forgotten that winston peters was the one who got labour into parliament in 2017? look where that got him
Go Mr Bolger, he's right Winston is the fact based man for the job. Now he's with National.
I honestly don't think either two are worthy for deputy PM, both are equal
yeah back in office, possibly deputy pm,
the only reason hes sworn in is because his time is nearly up, politicking from party to party, he'll go back to Labour if he makes it next round
@@ledenar moan moan moan. Your life is up to you.
Need the younger ones coming up not a has been
IF you think we are a United country just go listen to the likes of willie Jackson and company. We also have to endure being called the whites, (pakeha) all day long and that is their nicest term. I don't go around calling them the Mungu's.
A teacher recently at a school called children monkeys. I heard the n word many times and recently. Imagine an adult calling 10 year olds monkeys.
out of touch much?
When you call yourself a ..star😂
Seymour. I. Means
Is not the vote is the experience,
David. SeymoUr. Has. Many. Voters. In. Election. Merry. Xmas. And. Happy. New. Year.
Damn Bolger still alive??
Noone. In. This. Life. Deputy. Twice. Labour. Party. And. National. Party. Good. Day.
I. Thin(. Bill. English. Is. Great. For. Deputy. Prime. Minster. National. Party.
That TV presenter may want to get some cosmetic surgery to remove that disfiguring scar on your chest and neck, and hands!
😂😂
WINSTON definitely should be the deputy base on experience which David has very😊 little in comparison.
Won’t be a good look once Jago thing comes out
🤘😝✌️
Coming from a has been to a wanna bee.
Jim bolger would be the biggest bludger in nz
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Typical Boomers promoting their own generation to get more than they are entitled to.
ACT got more % of the vote and more seats in parliament than Winston it's that simple.
If you want to play the experience game,
Peters has been there the longest so he gets leader, Seymour second longest so he gets deputy and then Luxon.
Or its done on seats and votes 🗳
So any way you cut it, Seymour gets deputy.
The argument is about the other two positions.
It's either done on experience or on seats controlled by the parties.
The leverage Peters seems to have is out of all proportion to the number of votes his party got. There’s so much wrong with MMP and the way it’s interpreted in New Zealand.
playboy .. got that wrong 😂many see him as a great rep also overseas.. see more or less would bend too easy.
right on, plus Winston's been in Parliament for awhile and had the chance to make things right but...