Welding our Incorrectly Cut I-Beam

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  • @lorenzo6045
    @lorenzo6045 6 місяців тому +2

    Much respect for those welds Bob; not to mention your ability to teach.

  • @seththompson4171
    @seththompson4171 4 роки тому +20

    I swear Bob has forgotten more about welding than I will probably ever learn lol. He could weld a broken heart. I like how humble he is about a mistake that was made, and turned a mistake into a learning experience. That's a true teacher there.

    • @godfreypoon5148
      @godfreypoon5148 3 роки тому +2

      You always have to use low hydrogen on cardiac welds.

  • @godemperorhoover2131
    @godemperorhoover2131 4 роки тому +13

    I find, as a weld instructor, that it is absolute best practice to admit mistakes. You do a great job, Bob... never doubt that. It is ok to make a mistake, the real challenge is knowing how to correct them. Cheers from Canton, Ohio.

  • @williamsavory5274
    @williamsavory5274 5 років тому +92

    The guy that taught me how to work on cars said that a man man that never made a mistake, never made anything.

  • @leonardgilbreath9004
    @leonardgilbreath9004 5 років тому +63

    Bob we all make mistakes and a better man will admit it good video on this fix thumbs up.

    • @melgross
      @melgross 5 років тому

      Leonard Gilbreath a better man than Bob will admit it?

  • @djyul
    @djyul 4 роки тому +1

    watched 1 sec and had to reply,been welding 40+ yrs.You butter it up!
    No big explanation needed!Done plenty of it for fitters who had cut something too short in Oil rig module construction!
    Buttering is an English term,to replacing material that has been cut too short!Lucky it wasnt wood!!!

  • @StevenAndrews
    @StevenAndrews 5 років тому +53

    You get to learn twice as much watching someone screw up that knows what to do to fix it. Here we got to see what to do about a bad fitup.

    • @Welddotcom
      @Welddotcom  5 років тому +20

      That's why we show em brotha 👍

  • @Babarflower
    @Babarflower 5 років тому +2

    Uncle Bob! your services are superb for welding learners like us. You are in our hearts. May you be happy
    we love you

  • @whoknows3347
    @whoknows3347 5 років тому +3

    Everybody has had this fit more often than not doing structural work....nice video....most pre fab structures look like this

    • @whoknows3347
      @whoknows3347 5 років тому

      Isn't that why they say the welder will get it

  • @donnyo65
    @donnyo65 5 років тому +6

    As a newbie I found this fascinating - great recovery . We don't make mistakes, we have learning experiences.

  • @danielpullum1907
    @danielpullum1907 Рік тому

    I is devastated BOB made a mistake. My world just crashed. LOL Bobbie, you are my hero. You can do whatever you want, it's your show. You are on my bucket list of people I'd like to meet. You, Isaac (I C Weld), and Kurtis (CEE) and I probably won't get to meet any of you fellers!!!!! Well, I guy can dream.

  • @ryanjones9305
    @ryanjones9305 5 років тому +4

    I've been working on roll off dumpsters for a couple of weeks now, plating over holes in the bottom and sides. These old, beat up dumpsters are so bent and crappy, there is literally no way to get plate to lay flat over an entire repair to fix it. Filling gaps has become the bane of my existence. The gap on that joint, Bob....that was nothing compared to the nightmare I've been welding in lately.....

    • @mattharper588
      @mattharper588 5 років тому

      Ryan Jones cut some holes in the new plate and plug weld it

  • @p.t.anderson1593
    @p.t.anderson1593 4 роки тому +4

    Good to see what to do when things aren't perfect and how to recover without creating scrap, thanks!

  • @terencecottington4273
    @terencecottington4273 5 років тому +2

    Another great video sir. As previous subscribers have said "we all make mistakes" I am have just started to learn to weld and have found your videos to be the best on the net so far.

  • @charliemarks6096
    @charliemarks6096 5 років тому +1

    I love this series. A lot of real world examples and demonstration. Great stuff for me to practice with my everlast powerarc welder. I really liked how he filled in that gap.

  • @wadeuww9wmsksznzkknuttall422
    @wadeuww9wmsksznzkknuttall422 5 років тому +4

    Nice job . Really hard on the legs to climb down 150 feet to turn machine down for up hill . Should send your students to potash mine in Carlsbad for some dirty field experience. When you did video of welding rusty metal I thought that was good steel where I work. Rusty and salt impregnated metal really makes me appreciate when we get new metal and I get to work in the shop. I love your videos and I have learned a lot. Thanks bud and don't check the flavor of the rods half way through hard on the nose or tounge

  • @melaniew77msn
    @melaniew77msn 5 років тому +4

    Bob nice craftsmanship! When you were done there was no evidence of a mistake. I am a bit old school so in my book a 6010 is preferred on mild steel. Any way you want to slice it if this was done in the field that weld would be strong, functional and pretty. Good save!

  • @jakeshaw6827
    @jakeshaw6827 4 роки тому

    I really appreciate that you make mistakes ,I'm a non certified welder in a factory building heavy haul trailers.
    and your videos help me alot I hope one day to just be good enough with experience to be able to have a good job. The only experience I have for welding was in highschool for ever go and the job I have now.

  • @davidmcgennity3182
    @davidmcgennity3182 Рік тому

    As a rank amateur, I don't need to see you weld perfect cuts , I need to see how professionals deal with a butchers jobs like mine ,which you did , Thanks a lot Bob.

  • @denniscarter483
    @denniscarter483 2 роки тому

    Well done Bob. You are a true master of the trade . We need more of your vids.

  • @mercurycid
    @mercurycid 5 років тому +1

    bad cuts an fit are a normal day..... you got a real old school relaxed movement and always a pleasure to watch. if i cut my own steel its always under size by 2 to 5 mm, for squaring up and peno purposes, weld seq keeps shit mostly square. tacks clamps and turnbukles do the rest
    cheers

  • @dbeltz4847
    @dbeltz4847 2 роки тому

    I am fixing my sagging floor in my crawlspace switch salvage H beams. So your video is excellent. Thank you.

  • @jeremywatterson9594
    @jeremywatterson9594 5 років тому +2

    Great demo as always, we do the same procedure for our skids but only with short arc and flux core

  • @richmac918
    @richmac918 5 років тому +1

    Nice job Bob, really enjoy watching and learning from your video's (feel like I'm getting free welding classes). It's a joy to watch a pro like you in action. I've gotten a lot of educational information from these video's but welding is one of those skills where knowing and doing are two completely different things. Guess I gotta find me a cheap source of scrap metal to practice on.

  • @wackedoutdude
    @wackedoutdude 4 роки тому +1

    A professional welder is not a man that can weld perfect. A professional welder is someone who can correct his mistakes and work around them.

  • @jaysonlorenzon88
    @jaysonlorenzon88 4 роки тому +2

    From what I've seen on site that's not bad at all. As an ironworker I seen my share of bad cuts and trust me that's not that bad.

  • @tunichtgut5285
    @tunichtgut5285 5 років тому

    I am always fascinated of the clear view on the welding process in your videos. Is this how you see it through your welding helmet in reality? With my welding helmet it is more or less guessing where to weld along. People told me that a cheap helmet is good enough for a occasional hobby welder but when I see your videos I doubt that.

  • @billsutherland2128
    @billsutherland2128 4 роки тому

    I learned a lot more from your mistake. Thanks for your honesty and courage to show your not perfect. A great teaching video!

  • @rtkville
    @rtkville 5 років тому +2

    Good fix Bob. I enjoy your videos very much... keep'm coming.

  • @wicklash9065
    @wicklash9065 2 роки тому

    For them tight corners, a drill and a cupped wire wheel gets right in there. Awesome demo.

  • @georgestone1282
    @georgestone1282 4 роки тому

    I'm a machinist that has to weld as well. I get brain dead sometimes while machining and welding. Happens to all of us. Good job 👍

  • @44hawk28
    @44hawk28 4 роки тому +1

    Good job, I might try to suggest going to 7014 it's a lot easier to weld with. And a vertical down is so close to the strength of a vertical up with 7018, it's good for using for people who can't seem to get the hang of a vertical up. You did have just a little bit too much of an overlap on that horizontal weld in the corner but that's the only question I had, it was a good-looking weld however.

  • @simplyorange8553
    @simplyorange8553 4 роки тому

    I just got recommended this video and thought Bob was back, until I saw the upload date! Hope you're doing well, whatever you're doing, Bob!

  • @leebarnhart9725
    @leebarnhart9725 5 років тому +19

    We will all stop making mistakes one day. That's why I make as many as I can now !

  • @Rickyx5
    @Rickyx5 5 років тому

    the "mistake" you did, doesn't affect structarally the joint, you could even cope down to the "K-dimensions" of the beam. Once you weld the flange to a full penetration, that will take care of the moment forces, and the weld on the web will take care of the shear forces. There is not really a need to weld the "radial part" of the beam. (Structural Engeneer here, and a welder in training). Good job men, learning a lot from your videos

    • @wholegrain27
      @wholegrain27 4 роки тому

      I'm not an engineer, so would you mind explaining: k- dimension, moment force, shear force, flange, web, radial

    • @wandahoffman9259
      @wandahoffman9259 4 роки тому

      It’s only a mistake if you can’t fix it

  • @donblack5963
    @donblack5963 3 роки тому

    I like it when you show how to fix things

  • @ChrisB257
    @ChrisB257 5 років тому +9

    "Honest Moffat" - the best make errors. Nice fix Bob - I'd probably have burned thru real badly, let alone have made a decent uphill :).

    • @kcmopc
      @kcmopc 5 років тому

      That fill it welding!

  • @Bereft777
    @Bereft777 5 років тому

    Never learned anything without making a mistake especially not fixing the mistake. Awesome!

  • @OutothehousewithPaul
    @OutothehousewithPaul 5 років тому

    Another great video Buddy; you are a man of vast experience, no doubt an incredible asset for your school.

  • @marktihdnoejoal220
    @marktihdnoejoal220 4 роки тому

    Its educational, People who don't make mistake will never learn 👍🏼.

  • @MakeItMetal
    @MakeItMetal 5 років тому

    nice recovery Bob..Old timer i used to work with used to cut beams so bad that i had to fill with 6010 4mm rods ..it was that or scrap everything! thanks for sharing buddy

  • @mrgreenswelding2853
    @mrgreenswelding2853 5 років тому +2

    Nice one bob! I have done 4mm 7018 vert up. I struggled with keeping it consistent, but i kept going to learn.

  • @rocketman702
    @rocketman702 3 роки тому

    I just don't see it as a mistake. I see it as an opportunity to better ones self. And hey if you can fix it, all the more better!!!

  • @rlund3
    @rlund3 5 років тому +9

    Love your videos. Like the mistakes so my 13 yo grandson can see the fixes.

  • @theaverageamerican2081
    @theaverageamerican2081 5 років тому +7

    Hey Bob, just a few suggestions..... since this video and the preceding ones are showing structural skills, anyone doing this on the job should be welding per D1.1. Would it not be more educational to finish this job with commonly used D1.1 compliant field welding techniques such as
    - FP the flanges using steel or ceramic backing w/ runouts and 7018, E71-T1/T9 or E71-T8 all the way. (He-haw Bob's farm welding channel! All 6010 all the time!)
    People might say FCAW-G is not for field welding, but all of the large shipyards I have worked at use the same procedures and wires both in and out of the shop, all FCAW-G. And if you use a W section instead of an S shape the flanges won't be tapered.

  • @tntltl
    @tntltl 4 роки тому

    Second time watching it and then I always learn something new.

  • @dukecraig2402
    @dukecraig2402 4 роки тому +3

    That's when you ask the fitter "Where'd you find a set of burning goggles that fit a seein' eye dog?"

  • @leebarnhart9725
    @leebarnhart9725 5 років тому +49

    Little known fact: every pound of weld rod contains at least 2 sticks of erasers.

  • @onlygazza
    @onlygazza 5 років тому +1

    Brill arc shots and always learn watching your vids

  • @rolsonray
    @rolsonray 5 років тому +1

    These particulars are everyday type jobs...we all gotta build skids and their frames from time to time.
    I will use 1/8 6010 for tacks...then run 3/16 8010.
    It's oilfield so procedures are usually downhill.

  • @johnw391
    @johnw391 5 років тому

    At the ship yard filling gaps is a thing you learn and relearn everyday

  • @shawncordeiro1150
    @shawncordeiro1150 5 років тому +1

    with 6010 { fast freeze } every time you wip the rod to far out of the puddle the puddle freezes before you come back in and its like a stop n start every time {boilermaker welder}

  • @Plyply99
    @Plyply99 5 років тому +2

    The person not making mistakes is the person doing nothing! Live and learn my brothers and sisters...

  • @chrisrichards6481
    @chrisrichards6481 5 років тому +3

    Could you do a video on what you should and shouldn't be able to see under the hood as far as shade wise? Not so much for us that have been welding for years but some of the young bucks.

    • @jrcicirello
      @jrcicirello 5 років тому +2

      Or old guys looking to learn a new skill for hobby.

    • @zagan1
      @zagan1 5 років тому

      What you see in this video is pretty much exactly the same under the hood

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown 5 років тому +2

    Another well done video...thanks Bob!!!!!

  • @richardchase4019
    @richardchase4019 4 роки тому +1

    Flanges do in fact run square on wide flange beam

  • @antares-the-one
    @antares-the-one 5 років тому +2

    oh my. That clear and nice filming of welding spot, so damn good)

  • @movelikejaeger1914
    @movelikejaeger1914 4 роки тому

    Damn that enthusiasm

  • @andyobrien5696
    @andyobrien5696 5 років тому

    Everyone fucks up now and then, it's just some can fix it better than others. 😀 Good vid as usual Bob.

  • @perspectivex
    @perspectivex 4 роки тому

    Would another option have been to take that short piece with the wrong taper, alone without the other beam it'll be welded to, and add the missing metal back with a couple of weld beads along that edge where the gap would be then grind it a bit so the geometry fits tightly into the adjoining beam? Then it'd just be a couple of short flat position welds, which would be simpler?

  • @MrAli171
    @MrAli171 5 років тому +10

    Everybody makes mistakes that why they put rubbers on the end of pencils ✏️

    • @tommyt2854
      @tommyt2854 5 років тому

      There's so many ways I could hijack and take that reply! You might wanna change "rubbers" to ERASERS!!

    • @CrazySparkie63
      @CrazySparkie63 5 років тому +4

      @@tommyt2854 Yeah that's why I am a lot poorer than 35 years ago, because I forgot to put a rubber on my pencil Lol

    • @tommyt2854
      @tommyt2854 5 років тому

      @@CrazySparkie63 🤣

  • @michaelwatson4822
    @michaelwatson4822 5 років тому

    great video , everybody make mistakes very few admit to it , good or bad keep em coming a pleasure to watch

  • @kmgrillen
    @kmgrillen 5 років тому

    Showing of your mistake and how to fix it, got you another sub

  • @douglee8007
    @douglee8007 4 роки тому

    It happens to the best of us buddy excellent video nice work

  • @cat637d
    @cat637d 5 років тому

    Looks mighty good to my untrained eye Sir!

  • @mikeholtze
    @mikeholtze 4 роки тому

    As I have been told. The difference between a Craftsman and a apprentice is a Craftsman knows how to hide his mistakes. I've been a welder for 17 yrs and we all make mistakes! Just have to learn to fix and hide it.

  • @ahmedhammami360
    @ahmedhammami360 16 днів тому

    Good job 👍 and thanks to give us informations to improve

  • @jeepwk6.5L
    @jeepwk6.5L 4 роки тому +7

    My foreman told me “I’d rather see a welder that can fix his mistake then one who’s never made one.”

  • @KamiCrit
    @KamiCrit 5 років тому

    Non ideal conditions. My Favorite!

  • @barrygerbracht5077
    @barrygerbracht5077 5 років тому +2

    Why do you use 6010 instead of 7010? As a structural engineer, I would not allow 60ksi rods in any welds. Is it a pipe fitting thing for shitty steel? Most oil pipe line steel I see is API 5L X60 to X80 and would require 80-100 ksi rods for matching.

  • @johnkizziah108
    @johnkizziah108 4 роки тому

    Tip: to help eliminate (magnetic arc blow) (when welding in DC current) weld into the corners not out.

  • @larrylackey4156
    @larrylackey4156 2 роки тому +1

    As a structural fabricator and erector for 36 years, never has it been acceptable to run 6010 even at a root. Then in fit up of stiffeners or as in this web to web fit up, you nip the corners where the K section is. Stress in Wide Flange beam profiles are typically directed to the K sectionsand as this is where you want any possible flex to be directed, you never weld thru the K sections.
    If anyone has an AISC or AWS code section that shows welds in the K section please advise.

  • @silver-hy6mi
    @silver-hy6mi 5 років тому +5

    A man of many hats it’s nearly Xmas, so where’s your Xmas Santa hat🎅

  • @rvalcourtpersonaca
    @rvalcourtpersonaca 5 років тому +1

    Ahhh Bob, that wasn’t a mistake we all use to do that to get the penetration on the flange. Good video as usual.

  • @slowazzes1972
    @slowazzes1972 4 роки тому +1

    Im about to graduate high school and i want to do something with welding, where should i start and what should i do?

    • @chrishuber7704
      @chrishuber7704 4 роки тому +1

      jack meoff Can’t give you much advice on what YOU should do. Because there are far too many directions one can go. I can share my experience and hopefully it can shed light. I started welding at 17 building trailers with the dad of a girl I knew. When I was 19 I started a welding course through my local JR college. Was an associates degree. After 6 months I got a job doing structural steel. Started out as a welder, but quickly saw that being a welder/fitter was better. Some companies in structural steel use separate welders and fitters. Others prefer combos. I preferred fitting over welding because I found fitting I had to think more, my days seemed to pass quicker. And I could safely wear short sleeves when it was hot. I developed from a structural fitter to a miscellaneous fitter. Doing miscellaneous you build things like stairs and handrails. I really enjoyed this. A lot of Math. Degrees, and you need to be able to work basic formulas using basic algebra. As I progressed, I worked myself into shop foreman. Ran the entire shop. I work to the employees in order to meet deadlines. Often giving feed back of progress and anticipated completion dates to the Project Manager of the job. Hiring, and management of shop employees and ordering supplies.
      I eventually moved to the office, and am a Project Manager. I work with architects, engineers, general contractors. I deal with the contracts, price work and even give estimates. I assign detailing for our shop drawings and ensure they match the contract drawings. I set and maintain the scheduling for the projects for our steel. My experience as a welder has made me a much better Project Manager, and I make good money, and do it from a clean air conditioned office. Still, sometimes they guys request help out in the shop. I put on my coveralls and get dirty for the day. It’s been an amazing career. Start off with vocal training. Or, you could find a welding shop that will hire you as a helper and train you. I did that with several guys. One is currently the lead man for my shop. My current shop foreman came to me with only minimal welding experience while I was foreman . 5 years later he is running the shop, and has over 10 guys working for him. His lead man never welded before he started and he is now second in command after 4 years. Good luck

    • @slowazzes1972
      @slowazzes1972 4 роки тому +1

      Chris Huber thank you for the advice, at this point im thinking about getting in a jr college and doing their welding program. Always trying to get advice wherever i can

  • @johnmorton5498
    @johnmorton5498 5 років тому

    I get the impression you ain't really happy about the cock up or the making of this video but your skills are awesome, you made that gap look like nothing to a beginner welder like myself.

  • @nduxavalera9450
    @nduxavalera9450 2 роки тому

    Hello.. greetings from Indonesia... If I may ask.. for one time welding with 3 positions, what is the size of the amperage..?? First of all, thank you very much... 💪💪💪, Keep the spirit alive, my friend

  • @mattharper588
    @mattharper588 5 років тому

    That's one nice thing about working with steel verses working with wood when you make a mistake with steel you can fix it but with wood you are screwed

  • @russeli1941
    @russeli1941 2 роки тому

    Good save!✌

  • @luckyjordan8139
    @luckyjordan8139 5 років тому +4

    I’ve worked with several welders that never made mistakes, funny thing is... they all got let go.

    • @bstceltics4
      @bstceltics4 5 років тому +1

      Is it because they werent working lol

  • @NeogenicOrg
    @NeogenicOrg 4 роки тому

    I've had my first machine now for 4 months set for FCAW , an well I'm making mistakes such as bad fit up etc... money is tight and I'm 75% into a saddle cut fence gate frames using what I have on hand, recycled chain link top rail from the 70's. How can I deal with bad fit up gaps 1/4 - 3/8 an ensure that my welds are proper and solid. I've learned allot from watching but I'm curious when do you draw the line an decide to abandon you chunk of work an grab a fresh piece of scrap an try again?

  • @downhilldaddy9346
    @downhilldaddy9346 5 років тому

    Very very good info. Thank you Bob

  • @emmanuelalfonso8943
    @emmanuelalfonso8943 5 років тому

    Hi everyone..,I noticed most steel constructions screw joints instead of weld..,does it mean screw or bolt is better than weld ? Tnx

  • @knutkviten633
    @knutkviten633 4 роки тому

    I have welded. Wose. But it was used pipe line pipe. On A boring crew. I had to weld through running water. I would fier you.

  • @toml8142
    @toml8142 5 років тому

    Once you have done the root pass, how important is it to get the slag out from inside the joint before starting the other side? Is it critical, do you get out what you can or leave it?

  • @vettepicking
    @vettepicking 5 років тому

    what about running a bead on the edge gap to build it up then fit and weld ?

  • @andrewmcgibbon9785
    @andrewmcgibbon9785 4 роки тому

    Watching Bob weld is like watching Michaelangelo paint

  • @DavidTheCarpenter
    @DavidTheCarpenter 5 років тому +1

    Is there a reason for choosing 3/32's rods? I see a lot of that when I would have reached for an 1/8" 7018. Great fix btw...

    • @mikeford963
      @mikeford963 4 роки тому

      Heat control would be my guess. 83-85 amps uphill is easier control than 95-105 with an 1/8" rod.

  • @Tony-tk8tg
    @Tony-tk8tg 4 роки тому

    Bob bob bob ur got a lot to learn

  • @niceguy391987
    @niceguy391987 5 років тому +3

    Oh c'mon Bob, you did that on purpose :D
    Mistakes happen to all of us, so no big deal. Just gotta know how to fix'em.

  • @henryburke8426
    @henryburke8426 4 роки тому

    A REAL video! Great job on the fix and the video. I've f_(ked up some fits that make you scratch your head as in "WTF?", but figured out a fix and learned a lot about myself and my fitting/welding.
    Subscribed.
    Stay safe!
    H

    • @stanervin6108
      @stanervin6108 4 роки тому

      Bob hasn't been around for a few months. But the channel still has 'Red beard' and 'Mancub' , both very accomplished welders. Glad to have you on board!

  • @terrminatoragain461
    @terrminatoragain461 5 років тому

    Thanks Mr (Bob)Moffat, great video

  • @jandsmarineservicejimfromd4994
    @jandsmarineservicejimfromd4994 5 років тому +1

    Another great video Thanks

  • @pyroman7086
    @pyroman7086 4 роки тому

    It looks so easy

  • @philwittke2983
    @philwittke2983 5 років тому

    Tack it solid where you want it(square) 2 directions,alternate stack stronger buildup passes on the flanges,lather,rinse,repeat....

  • @isaacislaughter
    @isaacislaughter 2 роки тому

    I'm pretty sure that technically those are H-beams, not I-beams. The flanges on an H-beam get thicker as they approach the web. Unlike an I-beam where the flanges stay the same thickness. I appreciate the good videos either way.

  • @wadeuww9wmsksznzkknuttall422
    @wadeuww9wmsksznzkknuttall422 5 років тому

    Everyone makes mistakes you learn when you figure out how to fix them
    I like to install everything I build. I like to drop bolts in on install but sometimes you have to fix or modify there is never a perfect situation in the field. Fix on the fly on a timely manner and everyone is happy
    Go home wake up rinse and repeat. Everyone happy

  • @floydtucker5370
    @floydtucker5370 4 роки тому

    For sum strange reason I love when u chip FF lol

  • @goodpositivelove
    @goodpositivelove 5 років тому

    As opposed to working with wood and timber, do you know what the beauty is about working with steel...you don't make mistakes because you can fix it.

  • @jamescarlson9051
    @jamescarlson9051 4 роки тому

    Hay Bob I'm curious as to how you would tackle a full pen weld on a I beam with 0.52 metal core