None of this is to say you can’t take great-looking photos with this camera (you can), it’s just that you will have a much better time with it if you don’t approach it as “pro” gear. Anywho, new point-and-shoots in 2025? Am I right, or am I wrong?
Camera manufacturers don't follow trends, they set them. If we're getting new point and shoot digital cameras in 2025, that's because they were planned in 2020. Camera manufacturers don't suddenly say at the end of the year "Hey, we need a new digital point and shoot next year".
ZV-1 (first generation) IMO is super underrated. Ignore all the "vlogging" marketing talk and actually use it as a photo/video camera and it's awesome. 24-70mm eqv with OSS, PSMA modes including full manual, ultra fast stacked sensor, modern fast Sony AF with subject tracking, great built in mic, all the buttons can be remapped to your liking, and articulating screen on a small body means you can position and frame your shots in the most unusual ways a bigger camaera can't. It's got Picture Profiles if you want straight out of camera jpg (looks up Sony film simulation), its got VERY capable RAW if you want to edit in Lightroom, its got SLog if you want to push your video footages a bit more (with 8 bit limitations), its got very useable 480fps, etc... list goes on and on, Sony does not hold back on features even on a small point n shoot like this. Sure it doesn't have a built in flash or EVF but its got everything else and more. Especially now with ZV-1 II out and all the vloggers moving to DJI Pocket 3, first generation is going for peanuts used, its built better (got rubberized grip) and has OSS that mark II lacks. If I have to get rid of all my camera stuff and only keep something small, ZV-1 would be it. Hopefully Sony makes RX100 VIII.
You speak out of my heart. Come on guys, make small cameras great again!!! I tried the ZV1, but images werent to great. Now I use the Lumix LX100ii. Great images!
YES YES YES! I have been telling all my camera buddies that Point-and-Shoots will make a comeback! I work at Best Buy and see SOOOO many people looking for an affordable and small camera. I really hope that these camera manufactures recognize that not everyone is trying to VLOG anymore and we are just looking for a fun way to capture their favorite moments in photo form. Things that I would like to see in a modern point-and-shoot are: Pop-Up Flash (A MUST HAVE NECESSITY) 16-20 megapixels minimum EVF Flip Up Screen (i prefer this over a flip out screen) Efficient battery life USB-C port for charging and connectivity 24-70 equivalent lens (longer zoom is cool but not necessary) ADDENDUM* Shooting Mode Dial Exposure Comp Dial Rubber Grip for better handling
Point and shoot with built in flash, EVF AND prime lens would be the absolute ultimate. The x100 seems to be just too big too be considered truly pocketable.
The problem is the price. I don't think a lot of the people who want point and shoots are willing to cough up the price for a new one, and a lot of them are also looking for the lo-fi older digicam look. And for those who want something more high-fidelity, the sensor size can start to be a problem (as well as the aperture). I would fall into the latter camp. I have an RX100 VI, and although the zoom is great, the smaller aperture (it was reduced after the V model when the zoom increased) is a problem. My wishlist would be: - M4/3 sized sensor to give it an advantage over modern phones - f/2 aperture or wider (depends on sensor size too) - fixed lens is OK, a little zoom is nice to have for making it a good travel camera. If fixed, then 35-40mm FF equivalent focal length - EVF is super important to me - built in storage is fine if it makes the camera smaller, otherwise I don't mind - flash is nice to have but not necessary.
All your prerequisites already exit: - Panasonic GX or GM series - Olympus EM-10 or E-P series - Both brands share the same mount so you can use their f/1.7 or f/1.8 pancake lenses - They have built-in flashes, EVF for most and the best IBIS. Now, because of the hype for cameras like x100, Ricoh GR or RX100, this system has been overlooked. Yet, they offer exactly what this video tries to demonstrate, but people and influencers keep overlooking... Go figure...
I just got a Lumix GX1 for ~60 USD (no EVF, I can buy another GX1 for the price of the EVF), 2 lens (a Lumix 20mm f1.7 II, Lumix 42.5mm f1.7 OIS) ~120 USD each. That's dirt cheap, and the image is incredibly sharp and good. *Note: Don't buy the lens kit (12-32...) except if you are thinking of doing videos. They are bad, not as beautiful and as sharp as the 2 lens I mentioned.
@@ElectronInc Agree on some of that. I think the only really relevant one that you mentioned is the Lumix GM5. The others are either bigger or don't have an EVF. However, with the pancake lenses the GM5 becomes substantially thicker than a closed RX100. The X100 series aren't pocketable cameras, so don't really come into this. The GRIII is definitely a competitor though, it's almost as small as the RX100 and a similar thickness when collapsed.
@@btdat2506 For me the EVF is very important. The only similarly sized M43 camera with an EVF is the GM5, which is incredibly expensive on the used market (for a reason, I guess!). With a pancake lens it becomes significantly thicker though
@@Invincibleagent I see your point, but why won't you give it a little more space? GX7, GX8, GX85 and GX9 are not that expensive, while not too big either. I see it as a balanced option
I feel like the more AI is gaining popularity, the more people are naturally reaching out to lower tech or manual tech like a fight and flight reaction to the changes.
The rx100 line might not be what you think it is. The demographic that desires something that's 'fun to shoot with' and 'doesn't take a lot of effort to learn' doesn't sound like they would consider rx100. While absolutely packed with features, the rx100 has neither the retro looks, nor the fancy film simulation filters. It has very limited social media appeal and was rarely labeled as a 'cool' camera to shoot with. At least from what I saw, people that praised the rx100 are almost always photographers, and that makes sense. These people care less about what's on the surface and would actually appreciate the extreme versatility (24-200 on the VII), the outstanding image quality and the great focus capabilities(I own the I and the VII and never had issues with the AF) that the camera actually provides. I consider the rx100 more of a retreat, a compromise, for when photographers do not or cannot carry their 'proper' gear but still want something that's powerful, versatile and produces great results that can also fit in their pockets(and don't mind paying a premium). The rx100 would work wonderfully for that purpose but this also limits it to a very niche role and I really don't see a rise in demand for it any time soon. Will point and shoots make a full come back in 2025? Nobody knows. But even if they do, the rx100 will unlikely be a part of it. Good thing is that we won't worry about scalpers...as much. We'll happily leave them for Fuji😅
I'm the guy 😂 Got the Sony A7 series, and wanted a smaller compact. Still to this day I think my RX100mk2 in some ways beat my Samsung S24 ultra phone. When the phone can "know" what it is, like food or people, it can take pretty good photos. But on other stuff the phone photos completely falls apart, it just looks like a water painting of mess. And don't get me started on ergonomics 🤐
OMG thanks for featuring my tiktok!! i 100% agree with you that point and shoots are making a comeback and i’m totally here for the revival! i love my sony a7iv for professional client work but i also love just keeping a little camera in my pocket to document nights out with my friends, family dinners, vacations, etc! in fact - that’s how i got started in photography!!
yes, espcially as I just left mine on the train last Friday 😰. It was the golden child. 175 on Facebook marketplace. Have a Z8 and GX80 (here in London) it's like the perfect companion for me.
Yeah. I'm with you on this... Short, Fast Zoom (28-75 or similar equiv.) -OR- Short, Normal Prime (in the 28-40mm equiv. range) Minimum 1" Sensor Built-in Flash Built-in ND Filter EVF (although I'd forego an EVF in exchange for a smaller, lighter camera) Tilt Screen (horizontal and vertical, but NOT fully articulating) for hip/low angle shots
I recently bought a $30 kids digital camera that prints to a thermal paper roll and it's the most fun I've had walking around trying to find beauty through a view finder. The prints are cheap and disposable but give me a tangible outcome from my walks. I tape them near my desk and cycle them out regularly for new shots.
Brian, never let those photos get wet! I got water on some of mine; the thermal paper reacted and my pictures just disappeared :( but yeah, otherwise great fun! My camera came in pink with some cat ears. I think there was also an option with a dinosaur :D
@@BeccaFarsace ua-cam.com/video/lTyRiO08xi8/v-deo.htmlsi=kbBuGPU8EOkZBcqt This is a good review of the camera with links to purchase in the description
Recently picked up an old Kodak Easyshare M583 for $35 and it's been fun using again. The crazy thing is a lot of older point and shoots had OIS. I'd say adding OIS, keeping a flip screen, and having a USB-C port that can charge, data transfer, use as a webcam, or even connect audio into would be perfect to add function without size!
I recently upgraded my phone from an iPhone 13 Mini to an iPhone 16 Pro. I'm finding myself walking around with my 13 Mini at home instead of the 16 Pro because of its compact form factor and it's made me realize that the 13 Mini is still a pretty great camera. Not nearly as flexible and can't take RAW photos, but it's giving that point 'n' shoot experience due to its compact size and still pretty quick & sharp photos & videos. A year ago, I was thinking of getting something like a ZV-1, but I kept finding myself missing important features like reliable USB streaming to a PC (in the sub-$1k range, phones seem to be the best at this). Maybe the answer for some (but certainly not everyone) is to get a slightly older iPhone, especially a 12 or 13 Mini for ultimate compact form factor, and use it like a point 'n' shoot with no apps besides photography centric ones like Halide. So far I haven't been missing a bigger sensor or zoom lens, but I could see how someone else still might.
Man, I miss the mini form factor so much exactly for this. I made the a similar change from 13 mini to 15 Pro. It's been more than a year but still want the smaller form factor.
I recently dusted off my original RX100, bought in 2013. I wish it was faster, but I really do love the lens on it. I also really enjoy the low dynamic range, especally love the dark contrasty shadows, basically the opposite of phones these days with their HDR.
Standard batteries not proprietary sizes, microSD support. Metal chassis, cerakote finish over anodisation or 'paint. Hard buttons over software. I miss vintage Sony's love of grey and violet colour ways on hardware. Lens over-cup Think about water resistance. Ballistic nylon case with MOLLE tabs so I can keep it on my MOLLE panel in my Mystery Ranch. Camera software - be inspired by VISCO, flickr integration? Fuzzy logic over gen AI. Big sensor over pixel count. Modularity and open licence for third party grip makers etc.
Nice vid Becca! Been raving about point and shoot cameras like the Sony ZV-1 for years. Yes it’s video focused, but I’ve been able to get great shots with it! Keep up the great work! 👏👏
I found my old Sony S95 a few months back and have been using it so much more than my a7C and a1. The form factor is so convenient and there's just less (self imposed) pressure with getting a great shot. I like using my phone for pics, but it always feels a bit off because of the processing both Apple and Google use. To add to the list of must haves - it needs to start up FAST. Despite complaining about my phone, it is ready to get a shot in 1-2 seconds. The ancient S95 takes 3-5 seconds to start up and by that point, I've likely missed what I wanted to capture in the first place
USB-charging is great to have especially for travel, but the top feature for me would always be a great companion app. The sooner I can send an image to my phone to share, the better!
Becca, You're an incredible artist. I always look fwd to watching your videos, photography, all the works. They are well made, and you are well informed.
I've taken my RX100 Mark V around the world and I still love it so much! You can absolutely get great photos but you need to work for it: I dial everything manually and it can be painfully slow compared to what a "point and shoot" is marketed as. I also haven't touched the video functions in a while because it's not great compared to more modern cameras (plus that zooming sound is something else), but otherwise mine is 8 years old and still going strong. Thanks for another great video Becca 🙏
Still love my RX100mIV, but would love an update. My list: - Go back to the 24-70 and keep a wide aperture - Better autofocus - Higher resolution - Higher video bit-depth IBIS would be great, but not at the expense of size.
I have recently bought my second Pentax Q. This series of cameras changed my photography completely! They have the size of a compact camera but the versatility and handling of a pro shooter. It’s an absolute dream and the most fun I ever had shooting anything. I usually prefer the results I get from my Q-S1 over my Ricoh GR3x. I really really really wish Pentax would reboot these. This seems like the perfect time.
i use my rx100 mark 5 every day for my videos...THE POP UP SCREEN is the killer feature for me...I need to see myself on camera...and the rx100 lets me do that..(we aint about side screens in this home). without it looking like im looking at myself in the footage....absolutely love that camera. The small size, killer lens...and no fuse ability to record in auto is ulitmate... i even bought a zv e1 for a bit to use in my videos...but a couple months just went back to the old tried and true...rx100 sony needs to UPDATE IT! btw you've been making killer videos ever since you left the verge!
I own full frame and m43 camera gears but last year, I finally placed an order for a Sony RX100 Vii since wanting to get one five years ago. Looking around, I can’t believe that isn’t one single alternative camera that is this compact and can do the same thing since its release.
I have been reading the reviews since M1. Sony as Sony keep perfecting it till M7. I thought there will be a M8. Then I realized M7 is the Rolls Royce. Got to have it before it disappear off the shelves.
For everyone making a case for the 1in. Sensor I say micro 4/3rds. Better low light iso, dynamic range, and color reproduction. And the micro 4/3rds cameras have way better stabilization. Give me a m4/3 over 1 in. Any day.
6300 owner here, would love for Sony to release a successor to 6300/6400. Don't care for video, they have a separate model line for that. Just give me the 6700 sensor and battery
I have the Sony RX100VII and I love using it to take pictures of my family. The portability, zoom range, EVF and quality are amazing. The one thing that is really frustrating is trying to wirelessly share a photo. A better and faster app/wifi connection would be top of my list. When you can take great photos but you end up having to wait until you are back home to connect the SD card to a computer, the phone camera pics instantly shared have already taken over the conversation.
I keep a small USBC memory card reader with my ZV-1, not as convenient as wireless via app but wayyyyy faster to transfer photos to phone especially when it's RAWs, with LR mobile and a few of my own profiles/presets it takes barely a minute from popping out the memory card to quickly process and adjust on my phone and achieve essentially the same thing as I'd do with LR Classic on computer.
I was looking for a starter camera for my kids, a fixed point and shoot would have been perfect but I couldn’t find something that fit my criteria. My top 3 must-haves (beyond being reasonably priced) 1. Viewfinder 2. Fixed lens, wide aperture 3. Shoots RAW Viewfinders make it all feel more precise and ultimately I think it helps with composition which is the hardest thing to get right. 24mm? 35mm? 50mm? I don’t mind, just pick one and do it well! RAW as an option means we can dive into editing at some point and it’s something I wish had understood earlier when working with a DSLR. Another great video, Becca!
This resonates with me as someone trying to not carry around a smart phone as often, but still wanting to having something easy and lightweight that takes good pictures...
as a 19 year old uni student in the UK, it's crazy to see everyone bringing out their parents old point and shoot cameras from 2004 - 2016. And honestly I didn't blame em, I got a Sony DSC-TX7 couple months back on eBay and the photos from that are so authentic compared to just whipping the iPhone out.
i've had my G7X for like 10 years now, and every time i take it on a trip or a little weekend adventure, it's exactly as you said, i come home with incredible memories captured on that thing. and i often pull them up years later to relive those memories. and when i only bring my phone, thinking it would good enough, i end up not taking any pictures at all, there's just no fun in it. so yea, point-and-shoots are great!
Try get your hands on the mark 7 / VII, it is quite an upgrade to what you are using here. I got one in May this year for concert photography, where the lighting is far less than ideal compared to your outdoor scenarios and it has done a seriously good job in both photo and video. I just use aperture priority. The newest models use AF tech from the A9. The main gripe I have is it will always try to focus on the closest thing to the sensor that would make a photo but this can often be a person's hand getting in the way of an artist or a phone being held between etc so have to then go to selective focus either by touch screen to track or moving the focus point using the wheel. I was holding off a few months also to see if an 8 was coming out, but similar to their handycam lineup, it seems they've stopped or pivoted in another direction. I believe the other cameras like the HX60 and HX90 are also really good with a lot more zoom, great for concert or travel video and still some photo capability but less priority on fast bursts perhaps compared to RX100
The pop-up viewfinder is the most ingenious about this camera that you would hope something like it is available on fuji cameras like the Fuji XM5. I still have mine which is the rx100 iii. I'm never gonna sell mine. Great video and review as always!!
I just picked up an X-Pro3 to complement my X100T. I love these because they have a great tactile manual experience. They put me in the moment of capturing a photo without distractions that come with a phone camera. That's not to mention the quality of both blow any phone put of the water. Mostly, though, it's the same philosophy that has driven people back to MP3 players, vinyl, cassettes, and yes, digicams and point and shoots: we're so consumed by our phones with necessity that we seek any opportunity to get away from it and to physically engage with the medium that isn't just tapping on a screen.
I've been taking a canon g5 to parties recently and i think most important thing are wide aperture, flash and tilting screens (for overhead shot) for those kind of shot As a bonus if it have great battery life, compact and with internal storage
I have been carrying my DSC-WX5 everywhere, just to take pictures that a phone can't take. It is a bother to transfer pictures but it takes great pictures when you need it. So to me, you were right, this year was my return to the point and shoot.
The one thing I think is worth adding to this analysis is that it feels a lot like how Polaroid/Instant print cameras were treated in the mid 2010s - there's a lot of nostalgia from people in their 20 and 30s for point-and-shoot cameras, just like that for polaroid with people a decade or two older. I think that's why these are now being seen as the "fun" cameras, but this time around the cameras in question aren't just gimmicky, they're actually good and usable cameras for more than just casual shooting if desired. I hope that means they're here to stay
My LX7 has a stepped zoom, so it goes from 24mm > 28mm > 35mm > 50mm > 70mm > 90mm. It's so useful. Also when you turn it back on it remembers your previous focal length, so I can just walk around with a fixed 35mm for example, but if I ever want to zoom in I just tap the zoom button once and it's a 50mm, or tap zoom out button once and it's a 28mm. It's beautiful to use. I think more P&S's should have that function.
We rented the RX100 for our honeymoon and the much larger but still simple RX-10 for recent trips and adored both! Point and shoots are so convenient and when traveling why fuss over expensive lenses - I love my micro four-thirds setups, but to keep it small I'm limited to a single prime, versus huge zoom ranges for an advanced compact. Make these popular again, please!
MAKE IT WEATHER SEALED I see all those premium compact cameras that are NOT sealed : not against water, not against dust. It's possible to make small zoom lenses sealed, it's possible to make small cameras sealed. Note I didn't say "waterproof" or anything, just like basic sealing. The reason for this is that those are generally travel / EDC cameras. We are using them when we can't use anything bigger (otherwise we'd have something bigger), and so that means that oftentimes they would get caught in the rain during a travel, or thrown at the bottom of a pocket or a bag where dust has all the time in the world to make its way through the lens to the sensor. The lack of sealing is what has made me NOT go for any kind of point and shoot (even though I wanted to) and stick to my IP68 smartphone when I can't have a dedicated weather sealed camera with me like my Nikon Z6 or Fuji X-Pro. Fujifilm made the X100V and VI weather sealed (provided you put a filter on the lens). Not making the RX100VIII sealed would be a huge loss in my opinion.
If it is 100% weather sealed it would be a huge camera. If weather sealing is important to you, look into the Olympus/OE Tough-6/7. It has 100% weather seal and is waterproof to 50'. But the drawback is that it has the sensor the size that is similar to a phone, and sensor noise can be seen at mid-ISOs. Keep in mind this camera does not have a M- or S-mode. I have one, that I use to take close up flower pictures.
I was kinda hoping the Fuji X-M5 could scratch my point-and-shoot itch (even though I'm not sure it's technically a point-and-shoot?), but its lack of EVF is reeeeally bugging me. I think I'll be patient for now...
Yes! I like your "requirements": high quality and fast lens, pocketable. I'm fine with sd cards. I do crave the feeling of nice quality and some camera controls (aperture, speed, exp comp). I don't want a crappy cheap feeling camera, I want one that makes me WANT to take it out and play with it and be engaged. And viewfinder is a must.
I stopped using my lumix and my sony when i switched to the iphone 13 pro max. I miss them and now I take a lot less pictures. but I really don't miss the extra weight... (as small as they were). I'd add to the list of wishes that they get a really comfy grip.
I have a Sony a7iv and a7RIV but recently got a brandnew ZV1 for a bargain on ebay and have been using it A LOT on my trips and street photography. There's sth so liberating in not having to carry heavy gear and still be able to capture great fun moments. Dont get me wrong, my A7s are amazing especially for low light scenario, but for trips and walk about the city, I'll be carrying the tiny yet powerful ZV1 (with lots of spare batteries lol). Great video!
This year I got a good deal on an SX740 HS for casual bird photos and an Rx100 VII for everyday and concert photos and they're both so fun to use. The fact that they fit so easily into any coat or small bag means im more likely to use them At the same time they are showing their age and I'd love to see them updated.
Considering I got a G9 two weeks ago, yeah, I think you're right. Can we talk about USB-C charging and transfer? That would be so, so appreciated. And faster shutter speed. I'm missing so many shots due to slight little trembles. It's amazing how our smartphones can compensate for so much nowadays.
One thing I'd like to see is a filter thread on the lens. Sure, ND filters may mainly be used for video these days, but they make for lovely water and cloud effects. Not to mention the use cases for other filters.
I love my Fuji X3 Point and Shoot ... it has a manual zoom, articulating rear screen, EVF, flash and a front dial that I can use for manual focus ... It is dirt cheap compared to Fuji's newest cameras but that does not reduce the fun factor.
Been rocking the original APS-C Ricoh GR for nearly ten years. These days I alternate between it and the Powershot I bought when I was a teenager as by EDC. Been evangelizing the benefits of point-and-shoots for forever, as long as they're affordable.
so many times in the past using older cameras i’ve messed up shots because of the poor autofocus. the Canon R6 that i got whenever it came out is so good at focusing. it’s probably the one thing that would keep me from going to a smaller camera
You are so far off from my normal content I consume on UA-cam but I just enjoy following your journey and your so inviting on your channel I just wanna show up and root for you lol. Much love. Wish you the best!
I think the other thing that may bring a point and shoot renaissance is the social media backlash that seems to be building. I’ve been making an effort to put my phone in my bag (or even leave it at the hotel and rely on my watch) and it’s made me much more present with my family now I don’t have a distraction machine in my pocket. But you still need to be able to take photos. I actually found my old Powershot SD770 from 2008, and my 12 year old has been experimenting with it on day trips. It’s been a great thing to hand to him and I’d love something updated in that tiny form factor, maybe with an app to make offloading photos at the end of the day to a phone much easier.
Great video, would LOVE new P&S options in 2025. My wish list would be: wide angle (at least 14mm), solid stabilisation for walking/talking shots, a small inbuilt shotgun mic (that maybe swivels away when you don't want to use it). Basically - wide lens, stable image, excellent audio, decent battery life, in a pocket sized unit. Even if that only came in 1080 not 4K I'd buy it.
Are Ricoh GR3 and Fuji x100-series actually point and shoot cameras (they have extensive manual controls and dials for everything)? Every digital camera can be a used as point and shoot camera basically... so rather you mean small cameras. I think Olympus Mju is an actual point and shoot with a great lense and hence great photos.
My family bought a RX100 mark 3 back in 2015 and used it on our Europe trip. The photos taken back then are genuinely still miles ahead of my iPhone 16 Pro. It's still being used in the family today.
When you mentioned this prediction in the PP podcast I felt such a surge of emotions! I got reminded of my Canon G11 that got me start on photography and I miss it dearly. I'm still hanging on to my 10 year-old DSLR but there are places I can't really bring it to for safety reasons. A small P&S would be perfect for those moments (I don't like using my phone). My only additional wishlist is that it shoots in RAW. I'm crossing my fingers and toes for this! 🤞🤞🤞
I still use my Sony DSC-HX80 when I go on vacations. It’s not 4k but the focus is rock solid and that zoom is such a beast. Wouldn’t go on a trip without it. (even rigged a standard nd filter for it) 😃
Having a versatile lens is also really important. I absolutely love my RX100 M6 because of the 24-200mm equivalent lens. It's an insane zoom range with decent image quality. No phone will ever match that because physics is physics.
I think the argument against internal storage is that flash memory "wears out" a lot faster than cameras need to, so by offloading that into an SD card, you extend the total useful life of the product, which is a good thing.
I feel like it goes without saying, but a fully functional USB C Port should be the standard. One that is used for transfer, charging, video out, audio (although having an audio jack is fine too), etc.
Yes please! I love my G7X MkII and really want something a bit more modern. Also, I'd like to add some "fun" features to your list we have on our Phones but not on cameras For example: - Live Photos - adjustable focus after taking the picture - Panoramic mode - Gesture or voice command for group photos - apple findmy (or whatever) integration - easy and ultra fast sync to cloudservice or phone / airdrop
My first camera was a point and shoot, a Canon IXUS75 to be exact. Entry level DSLRs were only just coming onto the market and professional DSLRs were completely out of the question for uni student me at the time. But you're definitely right Becca, the sensor size and the dynamic range really put these compact cameras in the photography category and just got ousted when processed camera phones delivered sharper, brighter and instantly shareable photos. I've since graduated to a Sony A7III since but i would love to downgrade to something the size of a point and shoot with the performance of a FF Mirrorless. Sadly, physics is physics and smaller camera means smaller lenses which means less light :( perhaps one day? Btw, did you try flipping the flash on the sony to point upwards to bounce light around so it's less "direct"? Neat trick a friend taught me years ago ahhaha
Of the many, MANY point and shoot cameras that I own, including the original x100, my most used camera is the Canon G9x. It's such a treat in such a small package. Most pocketable camera with a 1 inch sensor. My second is an M100 with a 22mm lens. Bit bulkier but still smaller than my x100. And has an APS-C sensor.
This made me remember my RX100 V still exists 😂 I loved that camera but 100% agree it's just not good for video because of the lack of stabillisation (even though a good couple years of my life were shot on it), but for photos it works great in a pinch.
I feel like a new point and shoot might miss the fun brought by the restrictions an older point and shoot brings. I have an old Leica D-Lux that is a joy for all the things it can't do.
G7x iv please. Same as the 3, but give it usb C, any new 1" sensor if applicable. Keep the external mic jack for those so inclined. Im whatever on the EVF, its not a need. Full size SD cards. Fast on off and AF are the musts. Flip up, not out screen! So you can hip fire shots. Leave the flip out for the vlog centric cams.
For me a super fast start time and great battery life is a must have. A point and shoot camera goal for me is to mainly stay in the pocket when moving in nature or in city and being able to get out the camera from the pocket and nearly instantly took a picture is something i would love to see. See as it should be as nearly quick as using my smartphone from the pocket of my jean.
I'm not sure I need more point and shoots. I actually think I want more camera makers to do stuff like the X100VI and go toe-to-toe with Leica's fixed lens systems. I'd love to see Sony make a new RX1 III, for example. But if we have to do another Point-and-Shoot round, I'd like the two kings to return: perhaps a G7xVI and a Sony RX100VIII jammed to the gills with features that make them must-grab smaller cameras. I also wouldn't mind a M43 point and shoot from Lumix that emphasizes photo power in a small package.
I always imagined having mechanical tactile zoom that's controlled by the left hand would make it fun and intuitive. That'll save space needed for motors and even lighten the weight. Also it'll be so cool if a camera company add airdrop to transfer photos easily!
Great video, I love these reasonable takes. I really want a pocketable travel camera for landscapes, architecture, sometimes people (I guess?). No crazy sensor, probably a good fixed lens but a small zoom isn’t bad either, internal storage would be great. Also it would be fun to add a great compatible no frill cheap printer to print small Polaroid style photos for a wall or for friends. Now I haven’t looked into a small photo printer but I think this would a very easy product lineup canon could pop out. Just a seamless integration (hopefully) with minimal ongoing cost for prints (hopefully).
As an RX100 m7 owner I’d like the M8 to have weatherproofing and the ability to use an external flash: precisely because of that problem with the pop-up flash causing shadows. No need to reinstate the hotshoe of an earlier model, just allow it to wirelessly sync with an external unit. But even without that, a weatherproofed version would be a definite buy for me to make it a genuinely practical alternative for when I don’t have the space/ability to take my regular Olympus/OMDS kit which is all fully weatherproofed. A small all round increase in size might also permit a faster aperture zoom lens and a larger capacity battery.
None of this is to say you can’t take great-looking photos with this camera (you can), it’s just that you will have a much better time with it if you don’t approach it as “pro” gear. Anywho, new point-and-shoots in 2025? Am I right, or am I wrong?
Definitely right. Your video last year helped me pick up an x100vi, and I'm keeping my eye out for another new point and shoot next year
I have the first gen of this camera (snagged it used in near mint condition) and it’s such a gem!
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Camera manufacturers don't follow trends, they set them. If we're getting new point and shoot digital cameras in 2025, that's because they were planned in 2020. Camera manufacturers don't suddenly say at the end of the year "Hey, we need a new digital point and shoot next year".
ZV-1 (first generation) IMO is super underrated. Ignore all the "vlogging" marketing talk and actually use it as a photo/video camera and it's awesome. 24-70mm eqv with OSS, PSMA modes including full manual, ultra fast stacked sensor, modern fast Sony AF with subject tracking, great built in mic, all the buttons can be remapped to your liking, and articulating screen on a small body means you can position and frame your shots in the most unusual ways a bigger camaera can't.
It's got Picture Profiles if you want straight out of camera jpg (looks up Sony film simulation), its got VERY capable RAW if you want to edit in Lightroom, its got SLog if you want to push your video footages a bit more (with 8 bit limitations), its got very useable 480fps, etc... list goes on and on, Sony does not hold back on features even on a small point n shoot like this.
Sure it doesn't have a built in flash or EVF but its got everything else and more. Especially now with ZV-1 II out and all the vloggers moving to DJI Pocket 3, first generation is going for peanuts used, its built better (got rubberized grip) and has OSS that mark II lacks. If I have to get rid of all my camera stuff and only keep something small, ZV-1 would be it.
Hopefully Sony makes RX100 VIII.
Exactly, its built well, small, very quick, and most importantly, easy to find and for a good price
And gotta love the original classic Sony menu system!
I totally agree with your sentiments. I love my sony zv1 mark 1 for all the reasons you said.
Agree but the big con is the very poor battery life, even if you bring a lot of batteries with you, its a pain in the a$$ :(
@ I use a usb battery pack on a very small cage setup and it runs on it just fine.
You speak out of my heart.
Come on guys, make small cameras great again!!!
I tried the ZV1, but images werent to great. Now I use the Lumix LX100ii. Great images!
YES YES YES! I have been telling all my camera buddies that Point-and-Shoots will make a comeback! I work at Best Buy and see SOOOO many people looking for an affordable and small camera. I really hope that these camera manufactures recognize that not everyone is trying to VLOG anymore and we are just looking for a fun way to capture their favorite moments in photo form.
Things that I would like to see in a modern point-and-shoot are:
Pop-Up Flash (A MUST HAVE NECESSITY)
16-20 megapixels minimum
EVF
Flip Up Screen (i prefer this over a flip out screen)
Efficient battery life
USB-C port for charging and connectivity
24-70 equivalent lens (longer zoom is cool but not necessary)
ADDENDUM*
Shooting Mode Dial
Exposure Comp Dial
Rubber Grip for better handling
Please make it longer than 24-70. After all you can’t change lenses on a compact.
Point and shoot with built in flash, EVF AND prime lens would be the absolute ultimate. The x100 seems to be just too big too be considered truly pocketable.
The lumix zs100 with a prime lens then, that would be awesome
The problem is the price. I don't think a lot of the people who want point and shoots are willing to cough up the price for a new one, and a lot of them are also looking for the lo-fi older digicam look. And for those who want something more high-fidelity, the sensor size can start to be a problem (as well as the aperture).
I would fall into the latter camp. I have an RX100 VI, and although the zoom is great, the smaller aperture (it was reduced after the V model when the zoom increased) is a problem. My wishlist would be:
- M4/3 sized sensor to give it an advantage over modern phones
- f/2 aperture or wider (depends on sensor size too)
- fixed lens is OK, a little zoom is nice to have for making it a good travel camera. If fixed, then 35-40mm FF equivalent focal length
- EVF is super important to me
- built in storage is fine if it makes the camera smaller, otherwise I don't mind
- flash is nice to have but not necessary.
All your prerequisites already exit:
- Panasonic GX or GM series
- Olympus EM-10 or E-P series
- Both brands share the same mount so you can use their f/1.7 or f/1.8 pancake lenses
- They have built-in flashes, EVF for most and the best IBIS.
Now, because of the hype for cameras like x100, Ricoh GR or RX100, this system has been overlooked.
Yet, they offer exactly what this video tries to demonstrate, but people and influencers keep overlooking... Go figure...
I just got a Lumix GX1 for ~60 USD (no EVF, I can buy another GX1 for the price of the EVF), 2 lens (a Lumix 20mm f1.7 II, Lumix 42.5mm f1.7 OIS) ~120 USD each. That's dirt cheap, and the image is incredibly sharp and good.
*Note: Don't buy the lens kit (12-32...) except if you are thinking of doing videos. They are bad, not as beautiful and as sharp as the 2 lens I mentioned.
@@ElectronInc Agree on some of that. I think the only really relevant one that you mentioned is the Lumix GM5. The others are either bigger or don't have an EVF. However, with the pancake lenses the GM5 becomes substantially thicker than a closed RX100.
The X100 series aren't pocketable cameras, so don't really come into this. The GRIII is definitely a competitor though, it's almost as small as the RX100 and a similar thickness when collapsed.
@@btdat2506 For me the EVF is very important. The only similarly sized M43 camera with an EVF is the GM5, which is incredibly expensive on the used market (for a reason, I guess!). With a pancake lens it becomes significantly thicker though
@@Invincibleagent I see your point, but why won't you give it a little more space? GX7, GX8, GX85 and GX9 are not that expensive, while not too big either. I see it as a balanced option
I feel like the more AI is gaining popularity, the more people are naturally reaching out to lower tech or manual tech like a fight and flight reaction to the changes.
The rx100 line might not be what you think it is. The demographic that desires something that's 'fun to shoot with' and 'doesn't take a lot of effort to learn' doesn't sound like they would consider rx100. While absolutely packed with features, the rx100 has neither the retro looks, nor the fancy film simulation filters. It has very limited social media appeal and was rarely labeled as a 'cool' camera to shoot with.
At least from what I saw, people that praised the rx100 are almost always photographers, and that makes sense. These people care less about what's on the surface and would actually appreciate the extreme versatility (24-200 on the VII), the outstanding image quality and the great focus capabilities(I own the I and the VII and never had issues with the AF) that the camera actually provides.
I consider the rx100 more of a retreat, a compromise, for when photographers do not or cannot carry their 'proper' gear but still want something that's powerful, versatile and produces great results that can also fit in their pockets(and don't mind paying a premium). The rx100 would work wonderfully for that purpose but this also limits it to a very niche role and I really don't see a rise in demand for it any time soon.
Will point and shoots make a full come back in 2025? Nobody knows. But even if they do, the rx100 will unlikely be a part of it. Good thing is that we won't worry about scalpers...as much. We'll happily leave them for Fuji😅
I'm the guy 😂 Got the Sony A7 series, and wanted a smaller compact.
Still to this day I think my RX100mk2 in some ways beat my Samsung S24 ultra phone.
When the phone can "know" what it is, like food or people, it can take pretty good photos.
But on other stuff the phone photos completely falls apart, it just looks like a water painting of mess.
And don't get me started on ergonomics 🤐
The RX100 is a secret weapon for concert photography. Up to 200mm zoom and shoots RAW and has a fast burst rate.
OMG thanks for featuring my tiktok!! i 100% agree with you that point and shoots are making a comeback and i’m totally here for the revival! i love my sony a7iv for professional client work but i also love just keeping a little camera in my pocket to document nights out with my friends, family dinners, vacations, etc! in fact - that’s how i got started in photography!!
Serena! holy cow, I feel like I'm meeting a celeb. Your videos are all over my fyp - great work!
Serena! Love your tiktoks, I'm just starting concert photography and LOVE your content, so helpful and inspiring!
we need an updated Panasonic Lumix GX85!!!!
yes, espcially as I just left mine on the train last Friday 😰. It was the golden child. 175 on Facebook marketplace. Have a Z8 and GX80 (here in London) it's like the perfect companion for me.
Yeah I feel that. I recently got a gx9 for 400 used. I really hope Panasonic does a gx9ii or gx85ii
Honestly a GX85 with a full flip screen, maybe the newer autofocus, that'd get me back to MFT instantly
or legendary GM5 please
@@malooly Oh no! That's terrible. I hope you find a good replacement, and make sure you hang on to it and everything you value.
Yeah. I'm with you on this...
Short, Fast Zoom (28-75 or similar equiv.) -OR- Short, Normal Prime (in the 28-40mm equiv. range)
Minimum 1" Sensor
Built-in Flash
Built-in ND Filter
EVF (although I'd forego an EVF in exchange for a smaller, lighter camera)
Tilt Screen (horizontal and vertical, but NOT fully articulating) for hip/low angle shots
I recently bought a $30 kids digital camera that prints to a thermal paper roll and it's the most fun I've had walking around trying to find beauty through a view finder. The prints are cheap and disposable but give me a tangible outcome from my walks. I tape them near my desk and cycle them out regularly for new shots.
👀 link??
share the details! which camera?
Just search 'camera thermal print' on that big rainforest shopping site.
Brian, never let those photos get wet! I got water on some of mine; the thermal paper reacted and my pictures just disappeared :( but yeah, otherwise great fun! My camera came in pink with some cat ears. I think there was also an option with a dinosaur :D
@@BeccaFarsace ua-cam.com/video/lTyRiO08xi8/v-deo.htmlsi=kbBuGPU8EOkZBcqt
This is a good review of the camera with links to purchase in the description
Recently picked up an old Kodak Easyshare M583 for $35 and it's been fun using again. The crazy thing is a lot of older point and shoots had OIS. I'd say adding OIS, keeping a flip screen, and having a USB-C port that can charge, data transfer, use as a webcam, or even connect audio into would be perfect to add function without size!
I recently upgraded my phone from an iPhone 13 Mini to an iPhone 16 Pro. I'm finding myself walking around with my 13 Mini at home instead of the 16 Pro because of its compact form factor and it's made me realize that the 13 Mini is still a pretty great camera. Not nearly as flexible and can't take RAW photos, but it's giving that point 'n' shoot experience due to its compact size and still pretty quick & sharp photos & videos.
A year ago, I was thinking of getting something like a ZV-1, but I kept finding myself missing important features like reliable USB streaming to a PC (in the sub-$1k range, phones seem to be the best at this). Maybe the answer for some (but certainly not everyone) is to get a slightly older iPhone, especially a 12 or 13 Mini for ultimate compact form factor, and use it like a point 'n' shoot with no apps besides photography centric ones like Halide. So far I haven't been missing a bigger sensor or zoom lens, but I could see how someone else still might.
Man, I miss the mini form factor so much exactly for this. I made the a similar change from 13 mini to 15 Pro. It's been more than a year but still want the smaller form factor.
@@SarpSarpSarpSarp I've kept my iPhone 13 mini and will not jump until I cannot replace the battery or update the OS anymore.
I recently dusted off my original RX100, bought in 2013. I wish it was faster, but I really do love the lens on it. I also really enjoy the low dynamic range, especally love the dark contrasty shadows, basically the opposite of phones these days with their HDR.
If you take the idea of built-in storage a bit further, a really reliant and fast phone app is a must.
Standard batteries not proprietary sizes, microSD support. Metal chassis, cerakote finish over anodisation or 'paint. Hard buttons over software. I miss vintage Sony's love of grey and violet colour ways on hardware. Lens over-cup Think about water resistance. Ballistic nylon case with MOLLE tabs so I can keep it on my MOLLE panel in my Mystery Ranch. Camera software - be inspired by VISCO, flickr integration? Fuzzy logic over gen AI. Big sensor over pixel count. Modularity and open licence for third party grip makers etc.
Nice vid Becca! Been raving about point and shoot cameras like the Sony ZV-1 for years. Yes it’s video focused, but I’ve been able to get great shots with it! Keep up the great work! 👏👏
The Fuji X100 VI is the best thing that I bought this year. The built-in ND is the best to take slow shutter picture in black and white in daylight!
Still love my V - outside the battery life 🥲
Two of my fav creators watch each other's video I love that
I found my old Sony S95 a few months back and have been using it so much more than my a7C and a1. The form factor is so convenient and there's just less (self imposed) pressure with getting a great shot. I like using my phone for pics, but it always feels a bit off because of the processing both Apple and Google use.
To add to the list of must haves - it needs to start up FAST. Despite complaining about my phone, it is ready to get a shot in 1-2 seconds. The ancient S95 takes 3-5 seconds to start up and by that point, I've likely missed what I wanted to capture in the first place
USB-charging is great to have especially for travel, but the top feature for me would always be a great companion app. The sooner I can send an image to my phone to share, the better!
Point and Shoot dream specs:
- 1in sensor
- RAW/JPEG options
- pocketable
- USB C charging
- Weather-sealed
- clean simple UI
- manual mode
- less than $700 MSRP
Action cameras tick off almost everything on your list.
@ which one has a 1” sensor? Also shooting with an action cam isn’t going to be nearly as nice as using a regular sized camera.
So a xiomi 13 pro
@@Aygross no, don't want a smartphone for a carry around camera tysm.
So a Dji Osmo Pocket 3 basically?
Just got an Olympus Pen E-P7 for Black Friday. It's a pretty sweet camera & tiny.
Becca, You're an incredible artist. I always look fwd to watching your videos, photography, all the works. They are well made, and you are well informed.
I've taken my RX100 Mark V around the world and I still love it so much! You can absolutely get great photos but you need to work for it: I dial everything manually and it can be painfully slow compared to what a "point and shoot" is marketed as. I also haven't touched the video functions in a while because it's not great compared to more modern cameras (plus that zooming sound is something else), but otherwise mine is 8 years old and still going strong. Thanks for another great video Becca 🙏
Still love my RX100mIV, but would love an update. My list:
- Go back to the 24-70 and keep a wide aperture
- Better autofocus
- Higher resolution
- Higher video bit-depth
IBIS would be great, but not at the expense of size.
I have recently bought my second Pentax Q. This series of cameras changed my photography completely! They have the size of a compact camera but the versatility and handling of a pro shooter. It’s an absolute dream and the most fun I ever had shooting anything. I usually prefer the results I get from my Q-S1 over my Ricoh GR3x. I really really really wish Pentax would reboot these. This seems like the perfect time.
i use my rx100 mark 5 every day for my videos...THE POP UP SCREEN is the killer feature for me...I need to see myself on camera...and the rx100 lets me do that..(we aint about side screens in this home). without it looking like im looking at myself in the footage....absolutely love that camera. The small size, killer lens...and no fuse ability to record in auto is ulitmate...
i even bought a zv e1 for a bit to use in my videos...but a couple months just went back to the old tried and true...rx100
sony needs to UPDATE IT!
btw you've been making killer videos ever since you left the verge!
I own full frame and m43 camera gears but last year, I finally placed an order for a Sony RX100 Vii since wanting to get one five years ago. Looking around, I can’t believe that isn’t one single alternative camera that is this compact and can do the same thing since its release.
I have been reading the reviews since M1. Sony as Sony keep perfecting it till M7. I thought there will be a M8. Then I realized M7 is the Rolls Royce. Got to have it before it disappear off the shelves.
1 inch sensors are a great sweet spot. IBIS, ND, and better mics in a point and shoot would make the ultimate vlogging camera imo.
For everyone making a case for the 1in. Sensor I say micro 4/3rds. Better low light iso, dynamic range, and color reproduction. And the micro 4/3rds cameras have way better stabilization. Give me a m4/3 over 1 in. Any day.
I daily carry an a6400 with a TTArtisan 27mm lens and it's a great EDC combo.
6300 owner here, would love for Sony to release a successor to 6300/6400. Don't care for video, they have a separate model line for that. Just give me the 6700 sensor and battery
I have the Sony RX100VII and I love using it to take pictures of my family. The portability, zoom range, EVF and quality are amazing. The one thing that is really frustrating is trying to wirelessly share a photo. A better and faster app/wifi connection would be top of my list. When you can take great photos but you end up having to wait until you are back home to connect the SD card to a computer, the phone camera pics instantly shared have already taken over the conversation.
I keep a small USBC memory card reader with my ZV-1, not as convenient as wireless via app but wayyyyy faster to transfer photos to phone especially when it's RAWs, with LR mobile and a few of my own profiles/presets it takes barely a minute from popping out the memory card to quickly process and adjust on my phone and achieve essentially the same thing as I'd do with LR Classic on computer.
I was looking for a starter camera for my kids, a fixed point and shoot would have been perfect but I couldn’t find something that fit my criteria. My top 3 must-haves (beyond being reasonably priced)
1. Viewfinder
2. Fixed lens, wide aperture
3. Shoots RAW
Viewfinders make it all feel more precise and ultimately I think it helps with composition which is the hardest thing to get right.
24mm? 35mm? 50mm? I don’t mind, just pick one and do it well!
RAW as an option means we can dive into editing at some point and it’s something I wish had understood earlier when working with a DSLR.
Another great video, Becca!
This resonates with me as someone trying to not carry around a smart phone as often, but still wanting to having something easy and lightweight that takes good pictures...
as a 19 year old uni student in the UK, it's crazy to see everyone bringing out their parents old point and shoot cameras from 2004 - 2016. And honestly I didn't blame em, I got a Sony DSC-TX7 couple months back on eBay and the photos from that are so authentic compared to just whipping the iPhone out.
i've had my G7X for like 10 years now, and every time i take it on a trip or a little weekend adventure, it's exactly as you said, i come home with incredible memories captured on that thing. and i often pull them up years later to relive those memories.
and when i only bring my phone, thinking it would good enough, i end up not taking any pictures at all, there's just no fun in it. so yea, point-and-shoots are great!
Try get your hands on the mark 7 / VII, it is quite an upgrade to what you are using here. I got one in May this year for concert photography, where the lighting is far less than ideal compared to your outdoor scenarios and it has done a seriously good job in both photo and video. I just use aperture priority. The newest models use AF tech from the A9. The main gripe I have is it will always try to focus on the closest thing to the sensor that would make a photo but this can often be a person's hand getting in the way of an artist or a phone being held between etc so have to then go to selective focus either by touch screen to track or moving the focus point using the wheel. I was holding off a few months also to see if an 8 was coming out, but similar to their handycam lineup, it seems they've stopped or pivoted in another direction. I believe the other cameras like the HX60 and HX90 are also really good with a lot more zoom, great for concert or travel video and still some photo capability but less priority on fast bursts perhaps compared to RX100
The pop-up viewfinder is the most ingenious about this camera that you would hope something like it is available on fuji cameras like the Fuji XM5. I still have mine which is the rx100 iii. I'm never gonna sell mine. Great video and review as always!!
I just picked up an X-Pro3 to complement my X100T. I love these because they have a great tactile manual experience. They put me in the moment of capturing a photo without distractions that come with a phone camera. That's not to mention the quality of both blow any phone put of the water. Mostly, though, it's the same philosophy that has driven people back to MP3 players, vinyl, cassettes, and yes, digicams and point and shoots: we're so consumed by our phones with necessity that we seek any opportunity to get away from it and to physically engage with the medium that isn't just tapping on a screen.
Just an fyi, the Ricoh Gr III X comes in an ND or HDF version.
I've been taking a canon g5 to parties recently and i think most important thing are wide aperture, flash and tilting screens (for overhead shot) for those kind of shot
As a bonus if it have great battery life, compact and with internal storage
I have been carrying my DSC-WX5 everywhere, just to take pictures that a phone can't take. It is a bother to transfer pictures but it takes great pictures when you need it. So to me, you were right, this year was my return to the point and shoot.
The one thing I think is worth adding to this analysis is that it feels a lot like how Polaroid/Instant print cameras were treated in the mid 2010s - there's a lot of nostalgia from people in their 20 and 30s for point-and-shoot cameras, just like that for polaroid with people a decade or two older. I think that's why these are now being seen as the "fun" cameras, but this time around the cameras in question aren't just gimmicky, they're actually good and usable cameras for more than just casual shooting if desired. I hope that means they're here to stay
Nailed it! it's me you're talking about :D I use my ZV1 a lot! Love it!
My LX7 has a stepped zoom, so it goes from 24mm > 28mm > 35mm > 50mm > 70mm > 90mm. It's so useful. Also when you turn it back on it remembers your previous focal length, so I can just walk around with a fixed 35mm for example, but if I ever want to zoom in I just tap the zoom button once and it's a 50mm, or tap zoom out button once and it's a 28mm. It's beautiful to use. I think more P&S's should have that function.
I bought my RX100 III on a trip to New York an hour after I got there. Still an awesome little camera.
We rented the RX100 for our honeymoon and the much larger but still simple RX-10 for recent trips and adored both! Point and shoots are so convenient and when traveling why fuss over expensive lenses - I love my micro four-thirds setups, but to keep it small I'm limited to a single prime, versus huge zoom ranges for an advanced compact. Make these popular again, please!
Just give me a new Pen F, Olympus! Good vid Becca. Found you via PP last week.
Totally agree with you. Still love my RX100mIII, my best Point & Shoot camera. My list:
- Better autofocus
- Higher resolution
MAKE IT WEATHER SEALED
I see all those premium compact cameras that are NOT sealed : not against water, not against dust. It's possible to make small zoom lenses sealed, it's possible to make small cameras sealed. Note I didn't say "waterproof" or anything, just like basic sealing.
The reason for this is that those are generally travel / EDC cameras. We are using them when we can't use anything bigger (otherwise we'd have something bigger), and so that means that oftentimes they would get caught in the rain during a travel, or thrown at the bottom of a pocket or a bag where dust has all the time in the world to make its way through the lens to the sensor.
The lack of sealing is what has made me NOT go for any kind of point and shoot (even though I wanted to) and stick to my IP68 smartphone when I can't have a dedicated weather sealed camera with me like my Nikon Z6 or Fuji X-Pro.
Fujifilm made the X100V and VI weather sealed (provided you put a filter on the lens). Not making the RX100VIII sealed would be a huge loss in my opinion.
If it is 100% weather sealed it would be a huge camera. If weather sealing is important to you, look into the Olympus/OE Tough-6/7. It has 100% weather seal and is waterproof to 50'. But the drawback is that it has the sensor the size that is similar to a phone, and sensor noise can be seen at mid-ISOs. Keep in mind this camera does not have a M- or S-mode. I have one, that I use to take close up flower pictures.
@ronaldlee3537 good thing I said a basic sealing line there is on mirrorless cameras would be more than enough.
I was kinda hoping the Fuji X-M5 could scratch my point-and-shoot itch (even though I'm not sure it's technically a point-and-shoot?), but its lack of EVF is reeeeally bugging me. I think I'll be patient for now...
Yes. Otherwise looks really great.
Yes! I like your "requirements": high quality and fast lens, pocketable. I'm fine with sd cards.
I do crave the feeling of nice quality and some camera controls (aperture, speed, exp comp). I don't want a crappy cheap feeling camera, I want one that makes me WANT to take it out and play with it and be engaged. And viewfinder is a must.
Thank you Becca for promoting photography and the high quality videos you do!
I stopped using my lumix and my sony when i switched to the iphone 13 pro max. I miss them and now I take a lot less pictures. but I really don't miss the extra weight... (as small as they were). I'd add to the list of wishes that they get a really comfy grip.
I have a Sony a7iv and a7RIV but recently got a brandnew ZV1 for a bargain on ebay and have been using it A LOT on my trips and street photography. There's sth so liberating in not having to carry heavy gear and still be able to capture great fun moments. Dont get me wrong, my A7s are amazing especially for low light scenario, but for trips and walk about the city, I'll be carrying the tiny yet powerful ZV1 (with lots of spare batteries lol). Great video!
This year I got a good deal on an SX740 HS for casual bird photos and an Rx100 VII for everyday and concert photos and they're both so fun to use. The fact that they fit so easily into any coat or small bag means im more likely to use them
At the same time they are showing their age and I'd love to see them updated.
Considering I got a G9 two weeks ago, yeah, I think you're right. Can we talk about USB-C charging and transfer? That would be so, so appreciated. And faster shutter speed. I'm missing so many shots due to slight little trembles. It's amazing how our smartphones can compensate for so much nowadays.
One thing I'd like to see is a filter thread on the lens. Sure, ND filters may mainly be used for video these days, but they make for lovely water and cloud effects. Not to mention the use cases for other filters.
Great video! Audio sounded fantastic, you are definitely a pro!
I love my Fuji X3 Point and Shoot ... it has a manual zoom, articulating rear screen, EVF, flash and a front dial that I can use for manual focus ... It is dirt cheap compared to Fuji's newest cameras but that does not reduce the fun factor.
Does the Pentax 17 fit in a different space than these point and shoots? Obv it's analog vs digital but does that really separate it entirely?
Been rocking the original APS-C Ricoh GR for nearly ten years. These days I alternate between it and the Powershot I bought when I was a teenager as by EDC. Been evangelizing the benefits of point-and-shoots for forever, as long as they're affordable.
so many times in the past using older cameras i’ve messed up shots because of the poor autofocus. the Canon R6 that i got whenever it came out is so good at focusing. it’s probably the one thing that would keep me from going to a smaller camera
Thank you so much for another entertaining and educational video Becca and best wishes from Ontario, Canada.
You are so far off from my normal content I consume on UA-cam but I just enjoy following your journey and your so inviting on your channel I just wanna show up and root for you lol. Much love. Wish you the best!
I think the other thing that may bring a point and shoot renaissance is the social media backlash that seems to be building. I’ve been making an effort to put my phone in my bag (or even leave it at the hotel and rely on my watch) and it’s made me much more present with my family now I don’t have a distraction machine in my pocket. But you still need to be able to take photos. I actually found my old Powershot SD770 from 2008, and my 12 year old has been experimenting with it on day trips. It’s been a great thing to hand to him and I’d love something updated in that tiny form factor, maybe with an app to make offloading photos at the end of the day to a phone much easier.
Great video, would LOVE new P&S options in 2025. My wish list would be: wide angle (at least 14mm), solid stabilisation for walking/talking shots, a small inbuilt shotgun mic (that maybe swivels away when you don't want to use it). Basically - wide lens, stable image, excellent audio, decent battery life, in a pocket sized unit. Even if that only came in 1080 not 4K I'd buy it.
Are Ricoh GR3 and Fuji x100-series actually point and shoot cameras (they have extensive manual controls and dials for everything)? Every digital camera can be a used as point and shoot camera basically... so rather you mean small cameras. I think Olympus Mju is an actual point and shoot with a great lense and hence great photos.
love these vids becca. pls pls pls never ever stop
The killer combo is the previous version of this camera, which has the 28-200 zoom lens, it's the best tool ever was made for hiking photography ;-)
My family bought a RX100 mark 3 back in 2015 and used it on our Europe trip. The photos taken back then are genuinely still miles ahead of my iPhone 16 Pro. It's still being used in the family today.
When you mentioned this prediction in the PP podcast I felt such a surge of emotions! I got reminded of my Canon G11 that got me start on photography and I miss it dearly.
I'm still hanging on to my 10 year-old DSLR but there are places I can't really bring it to for safety reasons. A small P&S would be perfect for those moments (I don't like using my phone). My only additional wishlist is that it shoots in RAW.
I'm crossing my fingers and toes for this! 🤞🤞🤞
I still use my Sony DSC-HX80 when I go on vacations. It’s not 4k but the focus is rock solid and that zoom is such a beast. Wouldn’t go on a trip without it. (even rigged a standard nd filter for it) 😃
they need to put ibis inside it so that the videos would not be so shaky
Great way to talk about your sponsor. It was like a mini review rather than just mentioning specs. 👏
Becca, nice to see you came to my home City! Indeed an interesting place for us aspiring photographers.
Hope you enjoyed your time in Mexico City, and keep up with the awesome content. Un saludo y gracias por compartir 😊
But you need nd for "long exposure" or "wide open aperture" in daytime photos
Most of your frustrations with your M4 were corrected with the Sony RX100 VII! Blazing fast auto focus, i love mine!
Wow you're killing it Becca!
Having a versatile lens is also really important. I absolutely love my RX100 M6 because of the 24-200mm equivalent lens. It's an insane zoom range with decent image quality. No phone will ever match that because physics is physics.
I think the argument against internal storage is that flash memory "wears out" a lot faster than cameras need to, so by offloading that into an SD card, you extend the total useful life of the product, which is a good thing.
I feel like it goes without saying, but a fully functional USB C Port should be the standard. One that is used for transfer, charging, video out, audio (although having an audio jack is fine too), etc.
Becca, I think you are awesome. thank you for your positivity and putting out great, authentic content.
Becca out side preaching for my people! More pocketable cropped and FF sensor cameras please.
Yes please! I love my G7X MkII and really want something a bit more modern.
Also, I'd like to add some "fun" features to your list we have on our Phones but not on cameras
For example:
- Live Photos
- adjustable focus after taking the picture
- Panoramic mode
- Gesture or voice command for group photos
- apple findmy (or whatever) integration
- easy and ultra fast sync to cloudservice or phone / airdrop
My first camera was a point and shoot, a Canon IXUS75 to be exact. Entry level DSLRs were only just coming onto the market and professional DSLRs were completely out of the question for uni student me at the time.
But you're definitely right Becca, the sensor size and the dynamic range really put these compact cameras in the photography category and just got ousted when processed camera phones delivered sharper, brighter and instantly shareable photos.
I've since graduated to a Sony A7III since but i would love to downgrade to something the size of a point and shoot with the performance of a FF Mirrorless. Sadly, physics is physics and smaller camera means smaller lenses which means less light :( perhaps one day?
Btw, did you try flipping the flash on the sony to point upwards to bounce light around so it's less "direct"? Neat trick a friend taught me years ago ahhaha
The ricoh gr hdf has no nd because of the other filter. I use the nd so much in both my ricoh’s gr
Of the many, MANY point and shoot cameras that I own, including the original x100, my most used camera is the Canon G9x. It's such a treat in such a small package. Most pocketable camera with a 1 inch sensor. My second is an M100 with a 22mm lens. Bit bulkier but still smaller than my x100. And has an APS-C sensor.
This made me remember my RX100 V still exists 😂 I loved that camera but 100% agree it's just not good for video because of the lack of stabillisation (even though a good couple years of my life were shot on it), but for photos it works great in a pinch.
I feel like a new point and shoot might miss the fun brought by the restrictions an older point and shoot brings. I have an old Leica D-Lux that is a joy for all the things it can't do.
hey becca would love to see a review of the Fujifilm XM5 from you!
Yes!
I own the a6700 so i left my zv1 just collecting dust.. might be time to use it
G7x iv please. Same as the 3, but give it usb C, any new 1" sensor if applicable. Keep the external mic jack for those so inclined. Im whatever on the EVF, its not a need. Full size SD cards. Fast on off and AF are the musts. Flip up, not out screen! So you can hip fire shots. Leave the flip out for the vlog centric cams.
For me a super fast start time and great battery life is a must have.
A point and shoot camera goal for me is to mainly stay in the pocket when moving in nature or in city and being able to get out the camera from the pocket and nearly instantly took a picture is something i would love to see.
See as it should be as nearly quick as using my smartphone from the pocket of my jean.
I'm not sure I need more point and shoots. I actually think I want more camera makers to do stuff like the X100VI and go toe-to-toe with Leica's fixed lens systems. I'd love to see Sony make a new RX1 III, for example. But if we have to do another Point-and-Shoot round, I'd like the two kings to return: perhaps a G7xVI and a Sony RX100VIII jammed to the gills with features that make them must-grab smaller cameras. I also wouldn't mind a M43 point and shoot from Lumix that emphasizes photo power in a small package.
I always imagined having mechanical tactile zoom that's controlled by the left hand would make it fun and intuitive. That'll save space needed for motors and even lighten the weight. Also it'll be so cool if a camera company add airdrop to transfer photos easily!
Great video, I love these reasonable takes. I really want a pocketable travel camera for landscapes, architecture, sometimes people (I guess?). No crazy sensor, probably a good fixed lens but a small zoom isn’t bad either, internal storage would be great.
Also it would be fun to add a great compatible no frill cheap printer to print small Polaroid style photos for a wall or for friends.
Now I haven’t looked into a small photo printer but I think this would a very easy product lineup canon could pop out. Just a seamless integration (hopefully) with minimal ongoing cost for prints (hopefully).
As an RX100 m7 owner I’d like the M8 to have weatherproofing and the ability to use an external flash: precisely because of that problem with the pop-up flash causing shadows.
No need to reinstate the hotshoe of an earlier model, just allow it to wirelessly sync with an external unit.
But even without that, a weatherproofed version would be a definite buy for me to make it a genuinely practical alternative for when I don’t have the space/ability to take my regular Olympus/OMDS kit which is all fully weatherproofed.
A small all round increase in size might also permit a faster aperture zoom lens and a larger capacity battery.