For the OUAT fans: I have many MANY more OUAT theories coming, don't worry. Try sharing these with the OUAT online community, I'm trying to keep this show alive, and maybe I'll post monthly or 2-monthly videos on OUAT theories I have, so people don't let this extremely detailed show fade into obscurity in the coming years.
Can we please acknowledge the fact that the Blue Fairy is officially the worst character on the show? There was nothing saying that she had to share Rumple's destiny with Fiona when he was born. And it is likely she would've been able to predict the outcome. The Blue Fairy created who knows how many villains for what purpose? To save one kingdom from ONE Evil Queen? Can someone help me out? Does anyone agree that she didn't have to share this with Fiona? If it's a prophecy/destiny for a character, it will happen regardless of what people do. So why share it?
Yes thank you so much I miss this show! While I know season 8 might have their difficulties, I would love to see one! (I know that 7 was the last but...)
@@Queenhaylihill which Cinderella because like no to both Cinderella’s but I’m pretty sure she is closer in age to S7 Ella and like 10ish years older than S1 Ella
Jessica Rishel that’s not true, there was a scene when rumple was born and you could see that they were basically a perfect family until fiona found out that rumple was the savior, that’s when everything went downhill
@@olicityfan1150 Cora was a Miller's daughter . She met Prince Jonathan & thought he was a prince .. then soon met Prince Leopold & got engaged . Then got kicked out of Leopold's castle after Eva snitched .. so she went back to being a miller & met Rumple . He taught her how to spin gold & her reward was to be married to Prince Henry .. she left Rumple , took her heart out & became queen & had Regina ... Then she got banished from Regina's castle to Wonderland & become the queen of hearts .. then she left wonderland , came to Storybrooke to get Regina back on her side.... Then Snow killed her.. she went to the underworld & was the queen of the underworld I guess .. but Hades got mad at her & turned her back into a milling slave .. then Hook set her free & she did what she had to do to help her daughter's & moved on 😂
Emma is not the same age as belle at all? What?! Belle is at least 30 or 40 years older than Emma. Remember Emma wasn't born until 1983. Belle was around. She was already established.
Emma and belle ain't the same age, belle stopped aging due to the curse so it doesn't count, physically they are or may be the same age but technically they're not
Only I who thought that Nyx was pretty creepy but extremely cool also ? So top 3 oldest beings in OUAT was if I understood it correctly 1. Nyx 2. The Greek gods 3. Gothel ? Loved this video ❤️🙌
I love that someone is still talking about OUAT beacuse it's one of my favourite series EVER, the characters, the story, the plots, everything about it is just amazing.
I think the writers intended for the blue fairy to BE the main villain She is so shady!!! I remember There was a promotional poster with her and it Said "believe that evil can BE sneaky" make a theory on how She could be the main antagonist!!!
I just rewatched the entire series and you are sooooo right! She really does some questionable things. I'll have to watch it again with this in mind, see if I can come up with my own theory 😏
@@jazmatik1 Thank you! That's really awesome! Yeah, Blue is a shady one, I have 100% no doubt that the writers wanted to follow a much different path for the show, with Blue being the "darkest" villain in the end. But, alas, enter captain swan and all that idiotic teen drama that killed the dark vibe this show once had. Don't get me wrong, I kept being a loyal fan to Once, it's delightful.
since the gods exist in all realms than they could have easily remade humanity in a much shorter amount of time than evolution would normally allow, and they have their own source of magic that is unaffected by whatever land there in, so it makes sense it would only take a few thousand years for humanity to bounce back, if the gods made the first batch why wouldn't they make a second one.
The New enchanted forest didn't make Henry age. Henry traveled for years while in storybrooke not much time has passed. Prince Neal is the only one that bugs me with the time line.
Henry did age when he went back to the enchanted forest .. the time flow in the enchanted Forest is faster than the time Storybrooke .... But if you meant that Henry didn't age (from the wish realm) then it's because Gothel's curse went back in time (back to Henry's teen years) . So in the other realm , Henry was still a teen .
You know I really really loved it first but it felt like in the later seasons that they didn't respect the characters and continually had characters make choices just for the sake of plot that the character clearly wouldn't make. Had to stop watching around the Peter Pan era
@lucid nope. Short answer: The gods. He (Theorizer) have also already answered that question in this video: Nyx. Nyx is a primordial goddess in Greek myth
Water. He said the one magical thing would be water something to the effect that all cultures view it as the source of and sustainer of all life. It's when he took Emma to the well for the "drink" he promised her in exchange for what was in his bag/case 😉
Neal was born before Rumple became to Dark One. Therefore, his age is closer to Rumple. If Rumple is 300 years old, then I would place Bae's between 250 and 270.
@@janemarie270 That would about right it was the early , 1800 , when bae met Wendy and brother ; remember they spend a lot in never land , where never age.
Yeah ik😂 Ngl I thought Merlin was gonna be the oldest🤣🤣 I just completely forgot about the Greek gods Also the part about mother gothel confused the heck out of me😂
I didn't like that after barely 200 or so years of being the Dark One, Rumple's heart gave out because it could no longer handle the darkness. Becoming the Dark One is supposed to immortalize you, so long as nobody kills you with the dagger and becomes the next Dark One, but apparently, after barely a few centuries the darkness gets sick of one host and just...leaves. That annoyed me a lot. But it also begs the question: was Fiona more powerful than Rumple, given that her power allowed her to exist easily a thousand times longer than he was able to?
Have you heard of the Chronological Once project? Someone edited most of the series into one big chronological project that starts off with Merlin and ends at the season 6 finale. Might be useful to you although it’s not "complete" (no mention of Ouat in Wonderland or Season 7, sadly)
You forget about Captain Hook in your recall off old characters. The show doesn't say how long he had been traveling to Neverland before he met Mila. Clearly not the oldest character of the show but one of the older full time cast members
Yes, Tartarus does imbody the hole Tartarus, so Tartarus is older. There is also Gia, literal earth and the chunk of land that is earth. Chaos (the literal sky and space) and Gia fell in love, producing off spring. There was titans, and the Cyclopes. Chaos throws the Cyclopes into Tartarus, so Tartarus is either, older than Gia, or the first son Chaos and Gia had. A little knowledge for ya from a Greek geek.
Gaia fell in love with Ouranos not Chaos, Chaos created both Gaia and Ouranos, and it just sort of went from there... I know, I'm a greek mythology nerd.
Thank you for making the effort of keeping this amazing show alive. I loved it from start to finnish and even hooked some people into it along the way.
The first three seasons of OUAT were about my favorite on TV ever, and then it went way down hill. I really liked the season finale of the main storyline, but when the retcon season came out, I lost interest.
Yeah, I thought season one was good, season two and three were phenomenal, and seasons four and five were slightly less so, though it ended great. Season seven was a weird epilogue, and the spinoff was a whole different story entirely.
But isn't Gaia (Nyx' older sister) renamed "Mother Flora/Mother Earth" in season 7? She's Mother Earth, the personification of nature, and the mother of Gothel, Yarrow and about ten other nymphs.
Whilst I didn't dislike season 7, it mildly annoys me because the timeline is such a mess that you can't realistically ever make any more seasons or content for once upon a time that occur after this season. That and with the merging of realms you can't have the whole dual story telling component either. It was a good concept for a fresh start but I think the concept broke somewhere down the line XD
I wonder what the people behind this show will do next?I wonder if they’re going to make a fairy tale thing like this because I heard a rumor that the people behind the show we’re going to do a Disney villain TV series is going to be called the book of prophecy’s which will have a Once upon a time feel to it but it’s going to be about the Disney villains. To be honest I was really hoping that ABC would do a incredible and a Skyhigh TV series No that Once upon a time is over. But I like the Disney villain to maybe they can do a solo TV series for maleficent and the queen of hearts.
Michelle Stargaryen planning to rewatch it this august as I do every year and I did it for every new season too 😫 this is gonna be my first year rewatching with it being over
Yes! Finally! I have been waiting for you to make new videos of OUAT, and it’s also nice to hear that you didn’t give up on the timeline situation after not saying anything about it for a while😁😄
The series should have ended at the end of season six with no lucy cliffhanger as the season 7 reboot was just stupid most of the first six seasons were awesome with the exception of the first half of season 5 due to them messing up the emma as the dark one storyline so spectacularly that i dont think there is a word for how badly they screwed it up
I think you should do a Mad Hatter video since that’s one character that didn’t get enough love on the show and I would be very interested to find out what happened to his wife
Have you considered making a theory about Person of Interest? It was a show that ended in 2016 and right now it's my favorite. (Maybe something about the Machine or Samaritan)
It's funny you say that. I just finished Breaking Bad, and I've been looking for a new show, but I've been looking for something that includes the perfect intersection of: Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Supernatural, Drama, and Mystery. "LOST" was the epitome of this, but the shows "Once Upon a Time", "Resurrection", "Supernatural", "Stranger Things", and to some extent even "The 100", all near-excellently filled this gap as well. Just yesterday I started "Fringe", and on my list was also "Person of Interest" and "Alias". I'll probably get around to them :D
It's a fantasy/mystery/drama/borderline-scifi/supernatural. If you've seen LOST, OUAT is the natural viewing progression, it has an almost identical episode style and pattern.
Once Upon a Time was the show for me that drew my interest because I love the fantasy genre and the old Disney cartoons and the classic Grimm fairytales, so having a series that brings all that together while also doing it's own thing was perfect. The twist and turns were everywhere and all very intruiging. Only with season 7 I felt that they missed a few good things they could've done to make things more intense and I think that that has all to do with the fact that halfway through, the series decided to build up to it's ending, rather than continuing with the original plans it probably had for season 7. I definitely love to offer my ideas for what they could've done differently, in case you're interested.
@@KING_ZODINEUS I hated season 6 so much, that's why I gave It another "go". In my opinion hook and his toxic relationship with Emma ruined the entire series
@@luisdiaspires7618 oh my,i thought i was the only one,Captain Swan was the reason the show went downhill and them S7 came in and killed the show,i hated Captain Swan cuz it was intoxicating Fangirls service. Hook should had stay dead in S5 not Robin.
You know.....you should watch gravity falls and don’t make any theory’s about it until you’ve watched the whole show (only two seasons) if you watch it
"Nyx the personification of night" This sentence somehow triggered memories I didnt know I had from that weird book series "House of Night" (at least I think thats what it was called, it was abt like vampires and they had magical face tattos and power over elements or something?) Anyway the author used that phrase so damn often😂
Ik you’re probably totally done with coraline but I am watching it and thought of a question, how did the Beldam know Coraline had moved into the pink palace in the first place? Can she tell the future? And when does the opening scene of her making Coraline’s doll take place? Before or after Coraline moves in? As well as this, how does the beldam see through the button eyes?
That's my next theory :) The "New Enchanted Forest" from S7 has time that goes very fast, it's not the same rate as the main worlds. As for the Wish Realm's past with the "New Enchanted Forest" (like Alice/Wish Hook), that's where it gets confusing. I try explaining it in the upcoming video, but the most likely explanation, is that the INSTANT the Wish Realm was created, the entire fabric of the OUAT multiverse was ripped apart and all of the other universes changed to accommodate for this alternate timeline. Alice, and all other things in the New EF that were CAUSED by the Wish Realm, probably didn't even exist before 2016 when the Wish Realm was created. It's like a universe that suddenly woke up and butterflied into all realities slightly. The other question, is how Alice is so old if she was born in the New EF, which has weird time? Well, it's because her age is used in relation to Wish Hook, who was hopping between universes and time rates. Confusing, I know, but everything else, like the "time travel curse" at the end of season seven, THAT'S what I explain in my next theory :D
The oldest character doesn’t trip me up, its just how old the main characters (minus Henry and Emma) are in general 😂 Like you’re the same age as your daughter but technically not. Why didn’t anyone age during the first curse and how the hell did that go unnoticed ?? You’ve been like 28 for 28 years. And Henry went to school with some of the kids, they couldn’t have aged. So how did school work out like that? 😂 I understand time was frozen but you have to notice it. Somebody had to. And why were they so young when the curse hit? When is the time frame? It’s another dimension/world but I don’t understand how we can know the stories if they were still being lived. Wouldn’t the characters be older? Except for like Rumple. 🤨 I have a lot of questions, some might even have been answered or are obvious but I overthink lmao.
@@paulaalechnovic5943 Yeah, that being said he probably did notice something strange was going on. That's probably why when Mary Margaret gave him the story book he believed it so quickly.
The whole gothel magic thing doesnt make sense if she took the last of the magic from the realm then how was the dragon able to use magic both outside of storybrooke and before rumplestiltskin brought magic to storybrooke at the end of season 5 the dragon even explained that the reason the realm is known as the realm without magic is that there just doesnt appear to be any magic and to use it you just need enough belief as shown when henry uses the belief of a crowd in order to use magic to get his family back the whole gothel magic grove crap is just a giant "bleep"ing retcon and yes in my previous comment i did say i didnt watch season 7 and i didnt save for the series finale episodes but i did keep an i on it because i was interested in the coven of 8 which was another huge disappointment i mean come on they didnt even reveal who all the members were
You know, I realized that technically Rumple is older than Pan. Time doesn't progress the same in The Echanted Forest and Neverland. Rumple spent 300 years looking for Baelfire, yet for Baelfire it only has been 100 years since he was separated from his father. Baelfire mentioned that if he hadn't went to Neverland, he would be 100 years old by now (physically of course, basically he'd be dead). The Darlings mentions that Pan has been keeping their sister prisoner and them alive for over 100 years. Also you said he was about 200 to 300 years old when the show ended, but you are wrong. It was officially said in an interview that Rumple was 300 by the time of the First Curse, therefore if we count his time with Belle in the Edge Of Realms, We can safely assume that he is about 350-370 by the end of the show.
You're right, Rumple is much older, but you forgot a few years. How old was Rumple when he lost Bae? Maybe 40 (he hadn't been The Dark One that long then)? Okay, 300 years of finding Baelfire. Then 28 years of the dark curse. Will Belle get pregnant right away? I think a few more years will pass...😉then, when Gideon is 18, Rumple and Belle go to the Edge of Realms. At this point Rumple is almost 400 years old. How many more years did he live there with Belle? How much time passed before the curse brought him and the others to Seattle? I can't answer those questions, but by the end of the show, he's significantly older than 400 years. I think I heard somewhere that he was even 500 years old, but I could be wrong.
We need a show about those old characters!!! We need more answers and info about Nyx and Gothel and how Pan and Fiona met cause she was a fairy and he was a normal man when they did..
The firey pit in hades underworld has to be an opening to the phlegethon river. Not the river acheron. This river is one of the few ways into and out of tarterus in the Greek underworld
I’m not sure I would say the Pantheon is older than Gothel, but Nyx makes sense. Side note: I, myself, consider Ursula to be OUaT’s analogue to Primordial sea goddess Thalassa. Also, using WL music in the intro? Not fair.
Vanessa - nah I didn’t know either. I was literally like “wait...hold up?? There’s a spin off??” so then I went to google it and yah there it is. Something for me to watch in the next few days
I love OUAT so much. But I have never seen season 7 because they rebooted the characters and killed off characters that I loved. Season 6 ending with the feast, will be my favorite ending. But many people have liked season 7, so I don’t know if I should watch.
you SHOULD, but maybe think of it as more like a spin-off rather than the actual show. it's definitely different from s1-6, but i loved it anyway. kinda like the next generation with some old characters.
Honestly, I never got into the OUAT in Wonderland, even though Alice in Wonderland is one of my favorite Disney movies xD I can agree with your theory of course, It became confirmed when you watch I believe season 2 or 3 that the well has magical water in it which is what powers up Story Brook Main in the first place (or so Rumple and Regina say) So it became a bit obvious after season 6 what was really going on. Wasnt huge on that last season, didnt make much sense to me that they felt the need to make that last season but hey, some people actually liked it xD
How about Merlin who would be as old or older than Gothel as he is responsible for ferrytail land and all the forest and life and Gothel is responsible for our world being the land without magic technically they are immortal both so not including the gods which is older after all Gothel took her nymph magic and by went to the land Merlins magic created by this time she the dark one already existed and she started her search for the one that would save the dark one's soul who was pure of heart so Merlin and Gothel are the oldest beings who are not gods and both are "immortal" so who is older ( not including the fact that Merlin died)
I've literally only seen on clip from Once Upon A Time (when I was maybe 9), but ya boi needs his support and views. I watched the video in full and was confused, but it was 365,000,000 years well spent.
There's a episode of Sponge bob, where Mrs. Puff, Karen, and Sandy prank people. And among those people is Sponge bob. And let me tell you! Mrs. Puff is flinging the cart around that has Spongebob in it! He is thinking that he has his driver license. He asleep. Eventually Sandy tells Mrs. Puff to cool down. This shows how cruel and violent Mrs.Puff can ACTUALLY be. Its night so no cops were around.
I love the theory. But how do we know thus Nyx is the goddess or just a being named after the goddess like Ursula the Sea Witch was named after Ursula the Goddess.
Because sea witch Ursula had useless powers compared to the real deity. Nyx was creating beings able to grant any wish within the laws of magic The only one who really broke the laws of magic was Zeus, when he allowed hook to live again.
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For the OUAT fans: I have many MANY more OUAT theories coming, don't worry. Try sharing these with the OUAT online community, I'm trying to keep this show alive, and maybe I'll post monthly or 2-monthly videos on OUAT theories I have, so people don't let this extremely detailed show fade into obscurity in the coming years.
do a plants vs zombies therory don't forget the Chinese games
YAY! KEEP THEM COMING! I lost count on how long I have been waiting for the timeline theory!
Can we please acknowledge the fact that the Blue Fairy is officially the worst character on the show? There was nothing saying that she had to share Rumple's destiny with Fiona when he was born. And it is likely she would've been able to predict the outcome. The Blue Fairy created who knows how many villains for what purpose? To save one kingdom from ONE Evil Queen? Can someone help me out? Does anyone agree that she didn't have to share this with Fiona? If it's a prophecy/destiny for a character, it will happen regardless of what people do. So why share it?
Clicked here so fast that almost broke my finger... 🥂 😏
Yes thank you so much I miss this show! While I know season 8 might have their difficulties, I would love to see one! (I know that 7 was the last but...)
YAYAYAYAYAY!!!! I’ve missed OUAT so much!!!!! Please make more OUAT videos!!!! Thank you!
I absolutely agree with you
Isn't Snow or Cinderella the same age?)
@@Queenhaylihill which Cinderella because like no to both Cinderella’s but I’m pretty sure she is closer in age to S7 Ella and like 10ish years older than S1 Ella
@@februaryschneck the blond cinderella
@@Queenhaylihill yeah so she is suggested to be in her late 20s to early 30s in season 1, where Ella is 19
I wanna know how the black fairy and Peter Pan met
Lauren's Productions well they were both regular people when they met. They were probably both probably crap people too. 🤷🏼♀️
Jessica Rishel that’s not true, there was a scene when rumple was born and you could see that they were basically a perfect family until fiona found out that rumple was the savior, that’s when everything went downhill
Yea and I also want to know how Cora went to being a queen to being a peasant or just not a queen anymore
OlicityFan1 didn’t she teach that king on how to make fire in that episode with prince Johnathon
@@olicityfan1150 Cora was a Miller's daughter . She met Prince Jonathan & thought he was a prince .. then soon met Prince Leopold & got engaged . Then got kicked out of Leopold's castle after Eva snitched .. so she went back to being a miller & met Rumple . He taught her how to spin gold & her reward was to be married to Prince Henry .. she left Rumple , took her heart out & became queen & had Regina ... Then she got banished from Regina's castle to Wonderland & become the queen of hearts .. then she left wonderland , came to Storybrooke to get Regina back on her side.... Then Snow killed her.. she went to the underworld & was the queen of the underworld I guess .. but Hades got mad at her & turned her back into a milling slave .. then Hook set her free & she did what she had to do to help her daughter's & moved on 😂
This show is what's causing all these live action remakes
Yup! They passed it to test it out and see how people reacted to it🤷🏽
don't blame them!
I'd still take the show over the remakes
@@areionamckeegan2533 frr a 2013 show did Snow white better than the new one from a milee
And then suddenly the producers and people suddenly reopen once upon a time for another season..
That would be awsome...
That would be amazing, but don't get your hopes up. The chances are very slim. Maybe they'd do another spin off, but even that seems unlikely.
Its on Netflix guys....
@@waynejackson207 I know. I've already watched all of them though. Knew episodes would be great, but as I said, are very unlikely.
How did belle get that old and die of old age, while Emma (who was around the same age) seemed to hardly age during the same time period?
Indeed
Emma is not the same age as belle at all? What?! Belle is at least 30 or 40 years older than Emma. Remember Emma wasn't born until 1983. Belle was around. She was already established.
@@devinfaucette yh but at that point the curse happened and Emma caught up with them
@@devinfaucette plus the whole season 1 first time stop curse...
Emma and belle ain't the same age, belle stopped aging due to the curse so it doesn't count, physically they are or may be the same age but technically they're not
Only I who thought that Nyx was pretty creepy but extremely cool also ? So top 3 oldest beings in OUAT was if I understood it correctly 1. Nyx 2. The Greek gods 3. Gothel ? Loved this video ❤️🙌
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YES
OMG YES PLEASE!!!!
I love that someone is still talking about OUAT beacuse it's one of my favourite series EVER, the characters, the story, the plots, everything about it is just amazing.
Does anyone realise that Baefire is also one of the oldest people in the show? He is older than Cora, Regina and Emma.
I think the writers intended for the blue fairy to BE the main villain She is so shady!!! I remember There was a promotional poster with her and it Said "believe that evil can BE sneaky" make a theory on how She could be the main antagonist!!!
I just rewatched the entire series and you are sooooo right! She really does some questionable things. I'll have to watch it again with this in mind, see if I can come up with my own theory 😏
@@jazmatik1 Thank you! That's really awesome! Yeah, Blue is a shady one, I have 100% no doubt that the writers wanted to follow a much different path for the show, with Blue being the "darkest" villain in the end. But, alas, enter captain swan and all that idiotic teen drama that killed the dark vibe this show once had. Don't get me wrong, I kept being a loyal fan to Once, it's delightful.
The blue fairy wasn’t a villain. Do you mean the black fairy?
@@jasmin20085 If you read the comment correctly you would have understand it's my theory
..shady shady Blue😒
since the gods exist in all realms than they could have easily remade humanity in a much shorter amount of time than evolution would normally allow, and they have their own source of magic that is unaffected by whatever land there in, so it makes sense it would only take a few thousand years for humanity to bounce back, if the gods made the first batch why wouldn't they make a second one.
Exactly. The *Theorizer* pulls forward too much conjecture.
The New enchanted forest didn't make Henry age. Henry traveled for years while in storybrooke not much time has passed. Prince Neal is the only one that bugs me with the time line.
Henry did age when he went back to the enchanted forest .. the time flow in the enchanted Forest is faster than the time Storybrooke .... But if you meant that Henry didn't age (from the wish realm) then it's because Gothel's curse went back in time (back to Henry's teen years) . So in the other realm , Henry was still a teen .
OUAT is such a great TV show,I wish the show could continue,but I'm satisfy with the ending.
Same
They ruined it with season 7, they should have just ended with hook and Emma getting married
You know I really really loved it first but it felt like in the later seasons that they didn't respect the characters and continually had characters make choices just for the sake of plot that the character clearly wouldn't make. Had to stop watching around the Peter Pan era
@@cryptofacts4u Agreed.
My guess before the video- the blue fairy or black fairy
Boy was I wrong lol
Ever wonder what would happen if Henry accidentally cracked open a book from HP Lovecraft?
OUAT would be extremely horrible and terrifying with all the alien-looking creatures added to the lore
@@alysshaberonio4022 not to mention all the back seat racism in his books.
@@rosie-Queen-of-hearts We can separate the man from the work.
Do a Top 10 strongest Once Upon a Time characters
Short answer: emma
@Mʀ Gᴀᴍᴇʀ no because rumple actually confirmed shes more powerful then him and she could break the curse
@@scarlettwitch7295 where when and how.
Henry he’s the author
@lucid nope. Short answer: The gods. He (Theorizer) have also already answered that question in this video: Nyx. Nyx is a primordial goddess in Greek myth
My heart broke when Once went off the air. I started rewatching it again last week, so perfect timing for your video!!!
It's like how August said: "If there was one magic thing in the world, I think it would be water."
(Or something like that)
Water. He said the one magical thing would be water something to the effect that all cultures view it as the source of and sustainer of all life. It's when he took Emma to the well for the "drink" he promised her in exchange for what was in his bag/case 😉
@@jazmatik1 crap, that was what i was trynna say... i cant believe i wrote magic instead of water!
@@driveasandwich6734 😂...👍🏼
Rumble or Mr .gold was 400 or 500 yrs, year old as Neal or Belfire was between 200 or 300 years.
Neal was born before Rumple became to Dark One. Therefore, his age is closer to Rumple. If Rumple is 300 years old, then I would place Bae's between 250 and 270.
Bae arrived in London between 1900-1910, since he lived at the Darlings. That would make him about a hundred year.
@@matilda2594 my point is Bae is less than 50 years younger than Rumple.
@@janemarie270 That would about right it was the early , 1800 , when bae met Wendy and brother ; remember they spend a lot in never land , where never age.
i just need to say it honestly made me laugh when he said “rumple was ONLY about 200-300” this show is ridiculous but i absolutely love it
Yeah ik😂 Ngl I thought Merlin was gonna be the oldest🤣🤣
I just completely forgot about the Greek gods
Also the part about mother gothel confused the heck out of me😂
Laina Lain me toooo😂😂
well Neal was 300 so maybe he was like 320 or something
Hot damn this video truly blew my mind. OUAT was an amazing show.
Just wanted to say happy Mother’s Day to the mothers watching this video.
What about Gothel’s mother? She probably wouldn’t be older than Nyx but most likely in the top 3
All realms are connected by mythology
the new enchanted forest time thing confuses me so much still 🙄
I forgot about Nyx, I was always thinking Goethal was the oldest.
I didn't like that after barely 200 or so years of being the Dark One, Rumple's heart gave out because it could no longer handle the darkness. Becoming the Dark One is supposed to immortalize you, so long as nobody kills you with the dagger and becomes the next Dark One, but apparently, after barely a few centuries the darkness gets sick of one host and just...leaves. That annoyed me a lot. But it also begs the question: was Fiona more powerful than Rumple, given that her power allowed her to exist easily a thousand times longer than he was able to?
Have you heard of the Chronological Once project? Someone edited most of the series into one big chronological project that starts off with Merlin and ends at the season 6 finale. Might be useful to you although it’s not "complete" (no mention of Ouat in Wonderland or Season 7, sadly)
OMG where could I find that 😭🙏🏻
You forget about Captain Hook in your recall off old characters. The show doesn't say how long he had been traveling to Neverland before he met Mila. Clearly not the oldest character of the show but one of the older full time cast members
Yes, Tartarus does imbody the hole Tartarus, so Tartarus is older. There is also Gia, literal earth and the chunk of land that is earth. Chaos (the literal sky and space) and Gia fell in love, producing off spring. There was titans, and the Cyclopes. Chaos throws the Cyclopes into Tartarus, so Tartarus is either, older than Gia, or the first son Chaos and Gia had. A little knowledge for ya from a Greek geek.
Gaia fell in love with Ouranos not Chaos, Chaos created both Gaia and Ouranos, and it just sort of went from there...
I know, I'm a greek mythology nerd.
Cierra Gallant oh, ok! Thank you fellow Greek geek!
@@wein9791 no problem
They don't count as characters. Even when they exist, they did not get a face.
do you mean gaea?
Yass I Love "Once Upon a Time" and "The100" !!!
OUAT THEORIES ARE STILL GOING! YEEES!!!
Thank you for making the effort of keeping this amazing show alive. I loved it from start to finnish and even hooked some people into it along the way.
Once Upon a Time was the greatest show ever, and i came to love these characters
Do you think you could do an 100 theory at some point? I love the show it's one of my favorites
The first three seasons of OUAT were about my favorite on TV ever, and then it went way down hill. I really liked the season finale of the main storyline, but when the retcon season came out, I lost interest.
Yeah, I thought season one was good, season two and three were phenomenal, and seasons four and five were slightly less so, though it ended great. Season seven was a weird epilogue, and the spinoff was a whole different story entirely.
But isn't Gaia (Nyx' older sister) renamed "Mother Flora/Mother Earth" in season 7? She's Mother Earth, the personification of nature, and the mother of Gothel, Yarrow and about ten other nymphs.
Heck yeah! OUAT is here to stay! (Probably not, but I'm sad it ended...)
Should've ended at season 6 though........
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Spilling the real tea... You are very correct.
I'm really glad you did this. Once upon a time was a great show
Whilst I didn't dislike season 7, it mildly annoys me because the timeline is such a mess that you can't realistically ever make any more seasons or content for once upon a time that occur after this season. That and with the merging of realms you can't have the whole dual story telling component either. It was a good concept for a fresh start but I think the concept broke somewhere down the line XD
I wonder what the people behind this show will do next?I wonder if they’re going to make a fairy tale thing like this because I heard a rumor that the people behind the show we’re going to do a Disney villain TV series is going to be called the book of prophecy’s which will have a Once upon a time feel to it but it’s going to be about the Disney villains. To be honest I was really hoping that ABC would do a incredible and a Skyhigh TV series No that Once upon a time is over. But I like the Disney villain to maybe they can do a solo TV series for maleficent and the queen of hearts.
I'm literally rewatch the show and ZEUS I've missed it so f-ing much
Michelle Stargaryen planning to rewatch it this august as I do every year and I did it for every new season too 😫 this is gonna be my first year rewatching with it being over
YESSSSS A ONCE UPON A TIME VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Season 7 was quite wierd”
Hon season 7 was a disaster
Also 1:17 OCTAVIA
Where does the Blue Fairy fit in this theory? Huh?!
Yes! Finally! I have been waiting for you to make new videos of OUAT, and it’s also nice to hear that you didn’t give up on the timeline situation after not saying anything about it for a while😁😄
The series should have ended at the end of season six with no lucy cliffhanger as the season 7 reboot was just stupid most of the first six seasons were awesome with the exception of the first half of season 5 due to them messing up the emma as the dark one storyline so spectacularly that i dont think there is a word for how badly they screwed it up
I think you should do a Mad Hatter video since that’s one character that didn’t get enough love on the show and I would be very interested to find out what happened to his wife
Have you considered making a theory about Person of Interest? It was a show that ended in 2016 and right now it's my favorite. (Maybe something about the Machine or Samaritan)
It's funny you say that. I just finished Breaking Bad, and I've been looking for a new show, but I've been looking for something that includes the perfect intersection of: Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Supernatural, Drama, and Mystery. "LOST" was the epitome of this, but the shows "Once Upon a Time", "Resurrection", "Supernatural", "Stranger Things", and to some extent even "The 100", all near-excellently filled this gap as well. Just yesterday I started "Fringe", and on my list was also "Person of Interest" and "Alias". I'll probably get around to them :D
@@TheTheorizer Oh, Fringe was so good! You should definitely do some theories on that at some point. :)
I don't even have abc but it was still on my TV also on Netflix 😁
I haven't watched the show yet and have been apprehensive to do so... Should I watch it?
Also, great theory! :D
It's a fantasy/mystery/drama/borderline-scifi/supernatural. If you've seen LOST, OUAT is the natural viewing progression, it has an almost identical episode style and pattern.
I'll give it a watch! :3
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What if Chernabog is the devil hades refers to?
Once Upon a Time was the show for me that drew my interest because I love the fantasy genre and the old Disney cartoons and the classic Grimm fairytales, so having a series that brings all that together while also doing it's own thing was perfect. The twist and turns were everywhere and all very intruiging. Only with season 7 I felt that they missed a few good things they could've done to make things more intense and I think that that has all to do with the fact that halfway through, the series decided to build up to it's ending, rather than continuing with the original plans it probably had for season 7.
I definitely love to offer my ideas for what they could've done differently, in case you're interested.
I LOVE THIS SHOW
I hated S7, for me S7 is not Canon,like DBGT to DB Universe
It was cool! I started watching with the same feeling, but it turned out to be one of the best
@@luisdiaspires7618 oh i start watching it and it was terrible,for me the show ended in S6
@@KING_ZODINEUS I hated season 6 so much, that's why I gave It another "go". In my opinion hook and his toxic relationship with Emma ruined the entire series
@@luisdiaspires7618 oh my,i thought i was the only one,Captain Swan was the reason the show went downhill and them S7 came in and killed the show,i hated Captain Swan cuz it was intoxicating Fangirls service.
Hook should had stay dead in S5 not Robin.
Edyee Andino Valle mate it’s your opinion
You know.....you should watch gravity falls and don’t make any theory’s about it until you’ve watched the whole show (only two seasons) if you watch it
Oldest is blue
"Nyx the personification of night"
This sentence somehow triggered memories I didnt know I had from that weird book series "House of Night" (at least I think thats what it was called, it was abt like vampires and they had magical face tattos and power over elements or something?)
Anyway the author used that phrase so damn often😂
please make more videos about OUAT. I Love this serie
The wizard Merlin is the oldest even rumpelstiltskin said it in the show
I’m pretty sure he was the oldest human. But there definitely were older beings.
Ik you’re probably totally done with coraline but I am watching it and thought of a question, how did the Beldam know Coraline had moved into the pink palace in the first place? Can she tell the future? And when does the opening scene of her making Coraline’s doll take place? Before or after Coraline moves in?
As well as this, how does the beldam see through the button eyes?
2 of your videos in & I can't stop thinking of the Buffy musical episode song "I've Got a Theory." Great stuff, your videos and that old episode.
Please explain season 7 and it's timeline how did the wish realm even have a past?and how is hope still a baby but Lucy is eight?
That's my next theory :)
The "New Enchanted Forest" from S7 has time that goes very fast, it's not the same rate as the main worlds. As for the Wish Realm's past with the "New Enchanted Forest" (like Alice/Wish Hook), that's where it gets confusing. I try explaining it in the upcoming video, but the most likely explanation, is that the INSTANT the Wish Realm was created, the entire fabric of the OUAT multiverse was ripped apart and all of the other universes changed to accommodate for this alternate timeline. Alice, and all other things in the New EF that were CAUSED by the Wish Realm, probably didn't even exist before 2016 when the Wish Realm was created. It's like a universe that suddenly woke up and butterflied into all realities slightly. The other question, is how Alice is so old if she was born in the New EF, which has weird time? Well, it's because her age is used in relation to Wish Hook, who was hopping between universes and time rates. Confusing, I know, but everything else, like the "time travel curse" at the end of season seven, THAT'S what I explain in my next theory :D
@@TheTheorizer huh that makes a lot of sense will definitely watch the theory!!! Thanks
The oldest character doesn’t trip me up, its just how old the main characters (minus Henry and Emma) are in general 😂 Like you’re the same age as your daughter but technically not. Why didn’t anyone age during the first curse and how the hell did that go unnoticed ?? You’ve been like 28 for 28 years. And Henry went to school with some of the kids, they couldn’t have aged. So how did school work out like that? 😂 I understand time was frozen but you have to notice it. Somebody had to. And why were they so young when the curse hit? When is the time frame? It’s another dimension/world but I don’t understand how we can know the stories if they were still being lived. Wouldn’t the characters be older? Except for like Rumple. 🤨 I have a lot of questions, some might even have been answered or are obvious but I overthink lmao.
I think the only charecter that ages is Henry
@@paulaalechnovic5943 Yeah, that being said he probably did notice something strange was going on. That's probably why when Mary Margaret gave him the story book he believed it so quickly.
The whole gothel magic thing doesnt make sense if she took the last of the magic from the realm then how was the dragon able to use magic both outside of storybrooke and before rumplestiltskin brought magic to storybrooke at the end of season 5 the dragon even explained that the reason the realm is known as the realm without magic is that there just doesnt appear to be any magic and to use it you just need enough belief as shown when henry uses the belief of a crowd in order to use magic to get his family back the whole gothel magic grove crap is just a giant "bleep"ing retcon and yes in my previous comment i did say i didnt watch season 7 and i didnt save for the series finale episodes but i did keep an i on it because i was interested in the coven of 8 which was another huge disappointment i mean come on they didnt even reveal who all the members were
If gothal’s mom is Mother Nature then could she be gaia? Gaia was also the first primordial god which would make her the oldest.
You know, I realized that technically Rumple is older than Pan.
Time doesn't progress the same in The Echanted Forest and Neverland.
Rumple spent 300 years looking for Baelfire, yet for Baelfire it only has been 100 years since he was separated from his father.
Baelfire mentioned that if he hadn't went to Neverland, he would be 100 years old by now (physically of course, basically he'd be dead).
The Darlings mentions that Pan has been keeping their sister prisoner and them alive for over 100 years.
Also you said he was about 200 to 300 years old when the show ended, but you are wrong. It was officially said in an interview that Rumple was 300 by the time of the First Curse, therefore if we count his time with Belle in the Edge Of Realms, We can safely assume that he is about 350-370 by the end of the show.
You're right, Rumple is much older, but you forgot a few years. How old was Rumple when he lost Bae? Maybe 40 (he hadn't been The Dark One that long then)? Okay, 300 years of finding Baelfire. Then 28 years of the dark curse. Will Belle get pregnant right away? I think a few more years will pass...😉then, when Gideon is 18, Rumple and Belle go to the Edge of Realms. At this point Rumple is almost 400 years old. How many more years did he live there with Belle? How much time passed before the curse brought him and the others to Seattle? I can't answer those questions, but by the end of the show, he's significantly older than 400 years. I think I heard somewhere that he was even 500 years old, but I could be wrong.
Hey... Captain Hook should be right between Rumpelstiltskin and Peter Pan... Right?
OUAT is the best
We need a show about those old characters!!!
We need more answers and info about Nyx and Gothel and how Pan and Fiona met cause she was a fairy and he was a normal man when they did..
Just started rewatching this, it has to be my favourite show ever
Peter being Henry great grandpa or Regina being Henry step great grandmother?
I always thought witch Ursula was just a retcon. When was it stated they were separate characters?
Uh Hades is older than the Black Fairy and the Blue Fairy is way older than the Black Fairy
Hey did you watched my video ?
I Made a video of Top most powerful characters in OUAT, you should watch it and tell me what you think.
The firey pit in hades underworld has to be an opening to the phlegethon river. Not the river acheron. This river is one of the few ways into and out of tarterus in the Greek underworld
OH ME A GOD A ONCE UPON A TIME VIDEO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
By I'm going to watch my once upon a time all over again.
Plot twist: Fiona is the Beldam...
I’m not sure I would say the Pantheon is older than Gothel, but Nyx makes sense.
Side note: I, myself, consider Ursula to be OUaT’s analogue to Primordial sea goddess Thalassa.
Also, using WL music in the intro? Not fair.
Was I the only one who didn’t know about OUAT in wonderland???
Vanessa - nah I didn’t know either. I was literally like “wait...hold up?? There’s a spin off??” so then I went to google it and yah there it is. Something for me to watch in the next few days
Why is female robin older then Neal jr
4:25 in the new enchanted forest i guess ppl age faster??
Don’t say, I’ve missed this show so much keep making the vids! I don’t mind more theories even if the show has ended!😭
Its canceled thought it was the finale
But Ursula is a Latin name, so I don’t even have to look it up to know that there is no true Greek Goddess Ursula
I love OUAT so much. But I have never seen season 7 because they rebooted the characters and killed off characters that I loved. Season 6 ending with the feast, will be my favorite ending. But many people have liked season 7, so I don’t know if I should watch.
It takes some warming up to but it's pretty great I dont want to spoil anything for you so I'll just say give it a shot 😉
you SHOULD, but maybe think of it as more like a spin-off rather than the actual show. it's definitely different from s1-6, but i loved it anyway. kinda like the next generation with some old characters.
Watch inanimate insanity on You tube and make a theory on taco she is interesting
Honestly, I never got into the OUAT in Wonderland, even though Alice in Wonderland is one of my favorite Disney movies xD I can agree with your theory of course, It became confirmed when you watch I believe season 2 or 3 that the well has magical water in it which is what powers up Story Brook Main in the first place (or so Rumple and Regina say) So it became a bit obvious after season 6 what was really going on. Wasnt huge on that last season, didnt make much sense to me that they felt the need to make that last season but hey, some people actually liked it xD
How about Merlin who would be as old or older than Gothel as he is responsible for ferrytail land and all the forest and life and Gothel is responsible for our world being the land without magic technically they are immortal both so not including the gods which is older after all Gothel took her nymph magic and by went to the land Merlins magic created by this time she the dark one already existed and she started her search for the one that would save the dark one's soul who was pure of heart so Merlin and Gothel are the oldest beings who are not gods and both are "immortal" so who is older ( not including the fact that Merlin died)
I love OUAT and this video was so interesting! Thank you for making it and I can’t wait for more Once videos
The worst place is actually Tartarus.
OMG I luuuuuv once upon a time
I've literally only seen on clip from Once Upon A Time (when I was maybe 9), but ya boi needs his support and views. I watched the video in full and was confused, but it was 365,000,000 years well spent.
There's a episode of Sponge bob, where Mrs. Puff, Karen, and Sandy prank people. And among those people is Sponge bob. And let me tell you! Mrs. Puff is flinging the cart around that has Spongebob in it! He is thinking that he has his driver license. He asleep. Eventually Sandy tells Mrs. Puff to cool down. This shows how cruel and violent Mrs.Puff can ACTUALLY be. Its night so no cops were around.
I love the theory. But how do we know thus Nyx is the goddess or just a being named after the goddess like Ursula the Sea Witch was named after Ursula the Goddess.
It’s just a theory. But it is now my headcanon.
@@eddiefunnyWhat does headcanon mean?
James Sirot it’s what YOU believed happen in the story.
Ok. Thanks for clarifying.
Because sea witch Ursula had useless powers compared to the real deity. Nyx was creating beings able to grant any wish within the laws of magic
The only one who really broke the laws of magic was Zeus, when he allowed hook to live again.
Well she certainly looks like she is the oldest
this blew my mind. Could you imagine another season with Nix as the main villain.
Damn, I need to watch OUAT again
sOrRy iM lAte
pun intended