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I always appreciate constructive criticism. Don’t get me wrong. It’s the constant negativity about things that are pretty common place for most full time youtubers like running ads that rubs me the wrong way.
Oh and I guess your hipster comment was your idea of class. Come on bro get real. Like I said, keep it positive and fun man. This isn’t a place for negativity. There is plenty of that around, I’m not going to deal with it on here. I want this to be a cool judgement free zone for guys to have fun. If that’s not what your into, than this might not be your spot. ✌🏻
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It’s all just palette preference, just how the tasting notes on the coffee bags are just a reference, even though multiple different coffee professionals will mostly get different tasting notes. No one method is really better than the other, it’s just whatever coffee taste better to you.
The Breville “drip” coffee machine you used is basically a automatic pour over and probably more accurately does a pour over than doing it manually, so no surprised it tasted great. But grinding your own beans and doing a manual pour over is half the fun.
True! Regarded by many as one of the closest machines to a truly automated pour over device (hence the "precision"), so this is almost rigging the jury.
Vlad Tepes Once upon a time her preferred coffee making vehicle (Mr Coffee?) was the very pinnacle of coffee brewing technology. I bet you back then there were people who would call that the epitome of pretentiousness.
@@jessicageorge1646 My two espresso machines are the bottom of price range; a DeLonghi and a manual Flair. Taste wise, the Fair produces the sweeter, thicker, more flavorful liquid, but it’s a chore to set up and to clean, while the DeLonghi is a bit more practical in terms of use and the espresso can be very good if you have good beans and a good grinder. The moka pot is ok, more suited for traveling, and the taste is a bit bitter and acidic. The French press is also practical but the coffee seems weak to my taste.
I was thinking about this actually, when you have a type of coffee for a while, your pallet can cling onto newer or different things, that might be why you both liked the coffees you hadn’t been drinking. Food for thought
Drinking a PSL compared to a well executed pourover coffee is like Tang orange drink vs Fresh Squeezed. If you can’t handle the espresso by chucking in sugar and flavored syrups, you not might be a coffee drinker.
So essentially you're testing three different paper filter pourovers: Chemex with the thickest filter paper, V60 with a conical shape and thinner paper and the breville, which can do both a flat-bottom and a semi-flat bottom (where it goes onto a "line" of sorts in the bottom, but still with a single hole on the bottom). Whereas the Breville definitely is the most precise (hence the name, i know), all three produce vastly similar cups of coffee. Of course, a set program on the Breville to your liking will eliminate most human errors, but coffee can also be a lot about feel. Humidity, Temperature and other factors can change the way water flows through the coffee bed. For those who just want their cup of coffee and don't want to do much for it, automatic brewers like the Breville sure are the best choice. But as one gains interest in the matter, one enters the world of the diversity the coffee-community (if you want to call it like that). There are more ways to brew your V60, Chemex and other brewers that there are even annual Championships for the Aeropress held all over the world. The control manual brewing gives the home barista can get all the way into a ritual. TL;DR: The brewing methods are vastly similar mainly differing in paper thickness and automation as in the Breville. The taste may not be the reason people choose filter brews as much as ritual and connection to the cup one makes is (just like you said in the video).
Great video! First off the wife is a great addition, second off look at you with no hat... Third off damnit your pallet is broke. First you put BT last then you put drip first... Damnit now I have to buy a breville.
You two are great together, you really should weave in some "Spouse-s#it" Saturday! And I think the outcome is probably influenced by the fact that you would probably drawn to the thing you aren't used to on a regular basis?? Maybe. Looking forward to the next posting.
You forgot an important variable: your sense of taste. I used to work for a food company and take part in the blind tests of new products. I had my sense of taste tested. As it turned out, I could not sense a bitter taste in the sample (not like I don't know what bitter tastes like, there was a tiny amount of it in the sample cup). My colleague running the test could not believe I couldn't. To me,. it was just like tap water. That's why all the panel blind tests fundamentally don't make any sense. You can control all the variables except the person's ability to actually taste everything that's in that cup. It's like asking random people to assess the high-end audio equipment. Funny that while it's common knowledge that certain people hear more than others, we tend to think our ability to taste stuff is on par with everyone else's ability.
However, that's rather to the point... if a substantial portion of the population can't tell the difference, then many people don't need to buy the more expensive sound system, to continue your analogy, because they won't get anything extra out of it but they still do it because they want to have "the best."
@@Just_A_Dude True. In this case, however, it's two random people doing broscience, any conclusions of are simply worthless. You actually can make panel tests useful contrary to the bollocks I said here a year ago ;) just test the testers first to make sure they can sense the full spectrum and you'll have the good enough approximation of 'The Answer'. Whatever people do with it and how much it doesn't make a difference to their taste buds is their cup of coffee ;)
I just love the shirt!!! Haha, but ya V60 all the way for me.. it could just be the 5 minutes I get to zone out at work as I brew it... there’s always that. Great videos Jeremy! Keep crushing buddy!
Blue Mountain coffee is awesome, bought a bag while in Jamaica during vacation and that bag lasted like 4 days. I was working night shift at the time and made it for everyone on my shift with a french press.
First, thanks for recording this in 4k!!! New TV and I can smell the coffee... V60 is way stronger than the Chemex, unless you use the same filter. Stronger would be v60 Chemex would be the cleanest. Drip would be in the middle.
Technically they are all pourovers. The one called “drip” by you is surely going to be more consistent than a “manual pourover”. Why ? Pretty obvious, machines are more consistent. Manual pourovers however can more precisely dial in a coffee where the person who is making it is a coffee professional, said that they are fun to make and anyone should do a pretty decent job with all the 3 by knowing the basics. Hope this was helpful
Hilarious, I had to make that point too it's really just a matter of style how you want to look when you make your coffee lol it's funny to me how some people pretentiously look down on a drip machine like I'll never use a coffee machine again after using pour over and it never occurs to them all they're doing is manually pouring hot water over the grounds, doing the same exact thing the machine does. To me it would have made more sense to do a pour over machine or manual versus a press.
A buddy of mine (who owns a snobby coffee shop) and I did this with a bunch of coffee snobs and people preferred the dip consistently and put the chemex dead last after French and Aero Press. The butt hurt was real.
Wait wait, wait wait, wait... did you guys mix the coffee with milk?! looks a bit light brownish in the small cups ;O Either way, the drip machines are not bad at all as long as they are clean and get good coffee beans. :D
Nope, I think it might look that way in the small cups because of how shallow they are. We went straight black for the sake of the tasting accuracy. 😉👍🏻
I've been wishing for one of these Breville/Sage drip coffee makers ever since seeing a James Hoffman video on it. But it is closer to $350 (CAN) where I am. So for now, I keep using my $50 Chemex or my $100 Hamilton Beach FlexBrew. (The carafe half is the worst coffee maker I've owned, even compared to previous Hamilton Beach coffee makers).
Peter McKinnon is really into pour over coffee and it certainly is more dramatic the way he films it. But I’ve been drinking coffee ever since I was in the Marine Corps 30 years ago and ALL coffee tastes better than what we had in the chow hall. Personally I’m more of a coffee user than a coffee drinker so whatever gets it into my system faster in the morning is what I’ll use.
Great video! I've made thousands of Pour-Over coffees. For me, it is simply a super "Zen" experience. That's why I do it now and will do it tomorrow, etc.
Speaking from Brazil: here you can find easy, a Ton of good coffee and ask to be toask right before be send to you. And i prefer expresso, hario V60, french press.
(from my experience) the brew method doesn't *really* matter - it's the quality of coffee, water, grind size, and most importantly the water to bean ratio. Sure, certain coffees taste different (not necessarily better) with different brew methods, but it starts with the origin and quality of the coffee. when I go to a shop, rarely do I order a pour over - I'll just get drip of a good, quality coffee. Pour overs at shops (imo) have diminishing returns.
It's probably based on what they are used to. I usually get sick of drinking the same coffee so I have a few different types that I go to based on how I feel. Also that coffee maker is actually a really good maker so it should really be compared to a cheaper maker. I'd get pour over to not pay for a machine one
I started watching you about 9 months ago off the apple pie moon shine video and you were at 100K subs .... now 310K plus impressive! Hope you don't mind but been taking notes (thumbs up emoji) Just wanted to share some love to the channel
I try different coffee brands, different makers (aeropress, moka, french press, south indian filter) but my wife is not bothered about anything. Give her a half-decent pre-ground coffee brand and she will stick with it for the rest of her life with her french press ... even though that brand doesn't give her a french press grind. I guess, like all other wives, she has more important things to be bothered about. Hell, she will never watch such coffee videos either.
Can you two taste test INVADER COFFEE??They have a whiskey Blend, yes WHISKEY! .www.invader coffee.com. I’ve been doing pour-overs religiously for 5 years. The coffee just tastes better to me, the method is fun (Yipeee) and I can definitely say it’s a relaxing morning ritual. Thank you two for sharing!
The fact that your least favorite coffee is the one you drink all the time, just shows that , among GOOD coffee-making methods anf GOOD coffee, people prefer a change in smell and flavor. A new unique taste is preferred - so just keep mixing it up and enjoy your coffee from different flavors and ways of making it!
You should do more videos with your lovely wife Jeremy, this is the second one that I've seen and you both have great chemistry on screen and makes for dooe content 👍
@@JeremySiers welcome brother and it shows that you have a great relationship with your wife and comes across really well on screen. The yin to your yang as it were
I use a pour on top every day for the purpose of not going the "easy way" lol. I.E. with a pour on top, you have to clean/take care of it after every use where just slapping a K Cup or brewing a whole pot and walking away is too easy. The coarser the grind, the more the flavor comes out with pour on top (generally, from my experiences at least.) My favorite coffee so far is Taste of Texas from Lola Savanah Coffee, I'll get a 2lb bag of whole bean for 30$ and experiment with the grinds.
FWIW, I use Hario but that Precision brew is pretty much a pour over. If we ever buy another coffee machine, this will likely be the one. We have considered the Technivorm but Breville really his the mark with this brewer. I went through some comparisons myself. We had a Capressi and a Cuisinart machines. To me, they make coffee with less definition. They both put out muddled earthy coffees that you could not define any tastes. Once I dialed in the Hario, I found that all the aromas and flavors became totally evident. FYI, I found this video because I have been watching your whiskey vids.
Manual is better for the simple fact that you have control over all the variables. Let's be honest, that Breville is top of the line but in the end, it just mimicks a pour over... For $300. Just go manual and put that $300 towards a nice grinder. Also, I highly recommend the 4:6 method in the v60. Adjust the water temperature to suit the roast profile and it'll give you the sweetest cup of coffee ever.
If compared to a drip machine, yes. Though it can end up bad too. It comes down to fresh beans, good water, and the right ratio of coffee to water. I have a V60 02 pour over with white paper filters. The key is to get the correct amount of coffee to water. Right now I do 21 grams of coffee to around 500 of water as seen on the 02 hario server. Drip leads to acidity and burnt taste. BY the way your wife is like mine. She don't care and just dumps coffee in and water and drinks lol I never buy preground. Quickest way to bad coffee. Always grind.
Automatic machines generally produce higher extractions because they are enclosed and trap in more heat, as well as pulse pour throughout the brew to raise extractions without loosing much heat. The Chemex on the other hand is made of glass which has terrible heat retention which produces a lower extraction (even less heat retention with its extremely wide mouth). The V60 (plastic) is a great heat insulator and its filter paper is more porous than the Chemex, causing faster brew times and much less channeling (coffee clogging the filter) which leads to under extracted particles and over extracted particles in certain parts of the brew bed. The filter paper on drip is generally even more porous than the V60 which can lead to really clean brews if your grind size is coarser than it normally is for V60 (since the automatic machines extraction will be higher, you can hit bitter/masking notes quick that kill off bright/acidic flavors). It's really surprising what a very small grind adjustment can do to bring out a coffees flavor. If you're not hitting noticeable differences for each brew method, i'd recommend using great water (Third Wave Water is a good start) and dialing in every coffee per brew method by grind size. Once you get those two things locked in, you can change the ratio for even more experimentation. Just thought i'd share a few bits and pieces. Love your content and I hope this can help get you some dope brews out of that drip (best one on the market IMO). P.S. the cupping "slurp" is to spray the coffee on all taste receptors on the tongue as well as vaporize to sense most of the taste from our nose.
I don’t get it... this is a blind test of three drip filter methods / pour overs... so if it’s “Is pour over coffee really better... than pour over?” then the title makes sense. Perhaps a fresh (geddit? 😉) video of pour over, aeropress, french press, moka pot and americano, now you’ve got a black coffee taste test 👍🏼
I think pour over is generally better than your average sub $100 drip machine if your technique, recipe, and water temp is right. But I would bet most people who aren’t already into pour over also wouldn’t be buying Breville drip brewer. The Breville is awesome and it makes Pour over quality brew, but at a steep price.
Hey Siers, you gotta check out SweetMarias, they sell green coffee beans from around the world. Green beans in a West Bend Poppery II popcorn popper from ebay at about $30 and you are roasting your own beans. I have been doing it for more than a decade. You want to get nerdy over your coffee? That is the next level sh#$. Cheers.
It is very easy to get a sour cup from a Chemex, in my opinion (I brew with one every day). So, I don't know that one time is enough with this :p you can have some serious variation from the unrestricted flow. For instance, today's brew the filter stuck too much to the wall and restricted the flow. It was a bit too strong. That Breville though ;) probably is very precise.
Hey! Just dropped by and I think you should make a point of comparison: how much coffee and water or at least the ratio for the three methods, and also the Breville is a pour over in my opinion, so... I thought maybe comparing Chemex to french press o aeropress would be a point of comparison... But if you're making a comparison between different pour over methods this is definitely a best start
When I’m hiking, pour over coffee is my go to... and yes if you have the water to ground ratio to your liking, as well as some good coffee it’s phenomenal
What it means is your drip pot allows for the bloom creating a more flavorful cup lol.. I swore by ECBP once until a blind told me I liked Stagg Jr. better... Damn blinds 🤣
I think in the UK the Breville precision brewer is the Sage precision brewer (www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B079TTDVCD/ref=dp_prsubs_1) - the product codes for each are almost identical! Great video!
Breville/sage brewer is kinda an unfair comparison. You can get a V60 and pouring kettle for not all that much, that drip brewer is hella good but very VERY expensive
The pour over coffee is only as good as the person making it is good at it. It is not as simple as people think just pouring hot water over ground coffee. Every little bit from water to techniques changes the cup so dramatically that even two people making the same coffee from the same bag, ground at the same time with the same kettle of water will produce two very distinctively different cups. It takes a lot of practice and a ton of terrible cups to finally get to where you're pumping out consistently awesome cups. This is a bad test because in order to actually do this test it would require someone with the skill down to make a great pour-over and even then if they have mastered example the v60 or kalita doesn't mean they have mastered the chemex that is a whole different animal in its own. Every pour over device has its nuances and requires adjustment to both how you pour and how you treat the coffee/bed in the basket. Otherwise your just pumping out barely mediocre coffee no matter how good it is!
i dont get the point of the video if youre not comparing it to what the majority considers as drip or pod/kcups or whatever burnt drop coffee tastes like. in this video youre using a speciality coffee, fresh ground, but just with different brew methods, 1 of which is actually a precision brewer certified by the SCA so if youre trying to justify the hype of pourover, maybe compare different coffees using 1 of the pourover methods
Your video qualities are dope I subscribed after the video of you building a desk aha.. what camera are you using btw I can’t decide on the lumix gh5 or Sony a7iii?
I didn't see this mentioned, however technique was something you did not address. Maybe your wife liked the pour over b/c you have a solid technique and you liked the drip cuz she's not as good at pour over. (just a shot in the dark)
Drip, Chemex and V60 theoretically all should yield same taste result due to all these are technically the same method of brewing and that is pouring water over the ground coffee on a filter. The variables you may have there is the water temperature and how aggressive you flood the grounds with hot water....
Your wife objectively has more connoisseur pour over taste than you. Proving She could run this show rastefully blindfolded better than you . This was informative and fun viewing
the problem with the pour over for me, is unless you spend all this money on a goose neck kettle, a better than average grinder, a meticulous technique, great beans etc etc, its inconsistent and, mostly pretty good, but rarely great. and when its great, its like chasing a high all over again. im just not willing to spend so much money and fuss. Moke pot makes the best coffee i think, with the least amount of work. I only brew with moka now.
Sour= under extracted, so re do the test except for Chemex either pour slower or grind finer. On another note if you like really full velvety brews, then what are you doing with paper filter methods? Just go for French Press.
Maybe it's about how good each of your coffees were to begin with, maybe you pour a better cup than your wife and she doesn't beat the dripper you have. it would be a better blind if you had a third party labeling the coffee and you had 2 cups of each... too much complication for an enjoyable video perhaps, I liked the content anyway
I think pour oer coffee is not necessarily better than drip coffee. It just allows more flexibility when you brew. You can adjust brew speed, temperature for different coffee with pour over while you can only have one speed and one temperature with the drip machine.
Fun video Jeremy. Sounds like the Chemex could have used a slightly finer grind to get rid of the sour. By the way, you absolutely have the right to make fun of other big bearded gentleman.
>has sick tats, rocks an insane beard and wears a Seiko and Oris watch Now this is someone i can 200% trust :) Would've loved for you to say the V60 was but hey i'll take 2nd place and 1st place. My V60 kit should arrive very soon so i'm pretty excited to try it out, thanks for this nice blind test video :D
What is pour over coffee? I've literally never heard of it. What is the process? this video does not show the actual process between drip and pour over. I have no clue what the difference is. Can someone explain this? Please excuse my ignorance on this.
I mainly do drip due to time but if I'm not pressed for time I do pour over. I have a Boudum pour over and a Coffee Ninja. I honestly don't taste a huge difference but I also don't use fancy coffee. Great video though.
Sorry if this is asked and answered; did you use paper filters or metal filters on the pour over? The oils allowed into the coffee without paper filters may change the taste and "mouth feel" of the coffee. This is a big thing for French press. Maybe go again with the French press?
This was super cute and y'all are fun to watch. As for me, just give me coffee. Brew it, pour over it, press it, percolate it, boil it, extract it, just...give me coffee and I'm good. :)
I like the pour over because I put it away when its done and doesnt take up counter space in the kitchen like the ol drip coffee maker. Make super strong coffee and only have 24-32 oz gor the day.
Do the test again with a Mr coffee which is what 99 percent of people use. I used self ground beans and good water in one at work and it came out like trash. Way too hot and bitter. I haven't used self pour yet I didn't hear about it till today.
I started doing pour overs after watching an Alton Brown show about coffee 15 years ago. I've never gone back to a coffee maker. I don't even own one in fact. Just a ceramic funnel and a great kettle. All you need.
How do you keep your beard from getting super dry? I do lotions and all sorts of stuff but when my beard and mustache gets to be only about an inch long I get incurable beard dandruff and it's extremely itchy and uncomfortable.
At the end of the day is just water pouring on top of a coffee bed. So I guess the automatic dripper is also a pourover. If you spend some time tuning the grind size and control the water temperature you can have a much stable brew with an automatic brewer of time. Do it by hand and you will use a different pouring rate each time
All good but pour over should have been compared to espresso based coffee like americano. Drip coffee is usually in the doughnut store coffee category..
I think he was thinking hard about what his selection says about his ability to taste good coffee rather than actually focus on what tastes good spontaneously ... in her case, she just tasted without really thinking about what outcomes she wanted, and hence probably her tasting is more spot on...
I'm guessing before watching that it should be pretty much the same. A coffee pot IS pour over coffee. There are even coffee machines that use the cone pour-over filters. The reason people use the PO systems is that they get more control
I'm gonna go out there and say there is a chance that you were doing a reverse bias where you are most used to the coffee you taste and therefore it's not as impressive to the mind because it's what you expect. Therefore that which is most different could accidentally become what is most interesting. In this case the drip versus the pour.
Here is my unscientific opinion. I think when you try a new coffee or new technique it tastes good the first time then your tastebuds get used to it (like wearing the same perfume you can’t smell it as much over time)That’s why I think you liked them opposite of what you were used to drinking. It was different and more vibrant to your tastebuds. 🤷♀️
Maybe drip (which I think is also a form of pour over as the water does come from the top) is not bad as long as you dont let the coffee burn for hours on the hot plate. So if freshly brewed and consumed there might be little to no difference???.
There is no best way to brew coffee, its whichever coffee that tastes best to you. I brew all the methods and yet I really, really enjoy perculator coffee, which should be technically one of the worst.
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Nice video,good coffee. Greeting from Croatia.
Second hateraide comment today my friend. You are coming real close to getting blocked. Ads are the way people that do UA-cam as a living make an income. I only except sponsors that I like and feel my subscribers would enjoy or benefit from. I assure you, I have turned down many offers because I believe in keeping it real on here. As I mentioned in the other response. I try to keep this a positive place for people to have fun. Feel free to stop watching if you don’t enjoy the content and are going to continue with the crap attitude. ✌🏻
I always appreciate constructive criticism. Don’t get me wrong. It’s the constant negativity about things that are pretty common place for most full time youtubers like running ads that rubs me the wrong way.
Oh and I guess your hipster comment was your idea of class. Come on bro get real. Like I said, keep it positive and fun man. This isn’t a place for negativity. There is plenty of that around, I’m not going to deal with it on here. I want this to be a cool judgement free zone for guys to have fun. If that’s not what your into, than this might not be your spot. ✌🏻
Desta H relax guy, it’s an ad that takes seconds to pass. Let him make his money, you are in no way obligated to purchase anything. So grab a glass of your fav beverage, have a cigar or whatever relaxes you and enjoy the content
More taste tests!! Love these vids
Oh shit!! My man Daniel Schiffer in the house!! Love your stuff brotha! We gotta chat sometime. 🤜🏻🤛🏻
This comment just made this channel worth a million dollars
Yes!!!
Collab tho? 100% would tune in.
Paging Dr Hoffman, Dr Hoffman..?
You're needed on the Jeremy Siers channel..
Sorry bud. Dont think james will see this
Soooooo tru..... yikes this vdo is painful.
I mean, the breville is a whole different level of drip coffee. Also, the method used for the pour over can make a difference.
Agree. That Breville is like top of the line for drip coffee. He may make error with the pour over. Still fun to watch tho
Yeah the breville has an option where you can use a v60 cone
Need to use a 20 dollar mr coffee from Wal Mart.
It’s all just palette preference, just how the tasting notes on the coffee bags are just a reference, even though multiple different coffee professionals will mostly get different tasting notes. No one method is really better than the other, it’s just whatever coffee taste better to you.
@@jed23ify if it’s the same coffee and the same brewed cup (same extraction) the professionals shouldn’t be getting notes that are too far off.
The Breville “drip” coffee machine you used is basically a automatic pour over and probably more accurately does a pour over than doing it manually, so no surprised it tasted great. But grinding your own beans and doing a manual pour over is half the fun.
so make sure I buy that machine?
edit: wooo! it's a 300 usd machine. I'm afraid to check what it costs in China.
True! Regarded by many as one of the closest machines to a truly automated pour over device (hence the "precision"), so this is almost rigging the jury.
This video is ridiculously silly 😂
Wife be thinking "this is pretentious as hell. Just gimme a cup of coffee" ;p
Vlad Tepes Once upon a time her preferred coffee making vehicle (Mr Coffee?) was the very pinnacle of coffee brewing technology. I bet you back then there were people who would call that the epitome of pretentiousness.
I liked seeing you with your wife. Totally different side of you in my opinion. It guys bounce off each other like me and mine. That’s great!!
Thanks! 😊
James Hoffman's v60 pourover technique is great, give that a go.
Love his channel. His technique is what I use with my V60 😉👍🏻
Rep the man James.
@@JeremySiers thats what I was thinking! That 30g to 500ml is sooo good!
Putting a divot in the grounds before pouring water and stirring the slurry make a remarkable difference
Yup! James Hoffman helped me take my coffee to the next level too. I'm rocking that Chemex every morning.
Honestly, for me, I just love the process of making a pour over. It's a nice morning ritual to calmly wake up.
I don’t know why I am watching this, I have two espresso machines, a French press, and a moka pot.
Because you need a v60 in your life ;)
French press is an immersion brew not for espresso
@@dripdragon5398 ¡Exacto!
Which one u think is best
@@jessicageorge1646 My two espresso machines are the bottom of price range; a DeLonghi and a manual Flair. Taste wise, the Fair produces the sweeter, thicker, more flavorful liquid, but it’s a chore to set up and to clean, while the DeLonghi is a bit more practical in terms of use and the espresso can be very good if you have good beans and a good grinder. The moka pot is ok, more suited for traveling, and the taste is a bit bitter and acidic. The French press is also practical but the coffee seems weak to my taste.
I was thinking about this actually, when you have a type of coffee for a while, your pallet can cling onto newer or different things, that might be why you both liked the coffees you hadn’t been drinking. Food for thought
Bingo!
Indeed, came here to post the same idèa. Keep exploring and mix things up ;)
that's what i was about to comment but then I thought its obvious someone else might've already said this
Also the fact they used a really good coffee maker. I have a cheaper one so pour over is probably wayy better
“Pour over coffee seems to be more popular than a pumpkin spice latte in October” shots fired! 🤣
Drinking a PSL compared to a well executed pourover coffee is like Tang orange drink vs Fresh Squeezed. If you can’t handle the espresso by chucking in sugar and flavored syrups, you not might be a coffee drinker.
@@sunnycharacter I think the point is ‘wow, a lot of people are getting into pour over’ and less of being a dig at people who do like PSL.
@@johnespino886 I get it. I still can’t swallow a PSL. Way too sweet.
Now you need to add aeropress as a contestant.
Aeropress is definitely the best.
That was the first thing I thought. AeroPress is the most versatile
Aero press is my fav. I still do pour over for fun. But aero press tastes better
So essentially you're testing three different paper filter pourovers: Chemex with the thickest filter paper, V60 with a conical shape and thinner paper and the breville, which can do both a flat-bottom and a semi-flat bottom (where it goes onto a "line" of sorts in the bottom, but still with a single hole on the bottom). Whereas the Breville definitely is the most precise (hence the name, i know), all three produce vastly similar cups of coffee. Of course, a set program on the Breville to your liking will eliminate most human errors, but coffee can also be a lot about feel. Humidity, Temperature and other factors can change the way water flows through the coffee bed.
For those who just want their cup of coffee and don't want to do much for it, automatic brewers like the Breville sure are the best choice. But as one gains interest in the matter, one enters the world of the diversity the coffee-community (if you want to call it like that). There are more ways to brew your V60, Chemex and other brewers that there are even annual Championships for the Aeropress held all over the world. The control manual brewing gives the home barista can get all the way into a ritual.
TL;DR: The brewing methods are vastly similar mainly differing in paper thickness and automation as in the Breville. The taste may not be the reason people choose filter brews as much as ritual and connection to the cup one makes is (just like you said in the video).
I think it should be noted that the flow of water is not the same either. The way you pour can pretty drastically change the resulting cup.
"You're shiny". Are you trying to sleep on the couch? 😆
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Great video! First off the wife is a great addition, second off look at you with no hat... Third off damnit your pallet is broke. First you put BT last then you put drip first... Damnit now I have to buy a breville.
You two are great together, you really should weave in some "Spouse-s#it" Saturday! And I think the outcome is probably influenced by the fact that you would probably drawn to the thing you aren't used to on a regular basis?? Maybe. Looking forward to the next posting.
Thanks 😊
Lol…”so what’s the deal with pour over coffee”? Idk, maybe you should ask the German entrepreneur Melitta Bentz who invented it in 1908 😉
Isn’t the brevel technically a pourover too? Battle of the pourovers!!!!!
Yes! The main differences are in the filters which make a (slight) difference.
Yes they are all "pour over". Taking the grind size are all the same, it's all about timing, blooming time, flow rate of the water, ratio.
You forgot an important variable: your sense of taste. I used to work for a food company and take part in the blind tests of new products. I had my sense of taste tested. As it turned out, I could not sense a bitter taste in the sample (not like I don't know what bitter tastes like, there was a tiny amount of it in the sample cup). My colleague running the test could not believe I couldn't. To me,. it was just like tap water. That's why all the panel blind tests fundamentally don't make any sense. You can control all the variables except the person's ability to actually taste everything that's in that cup. It's like asking random people to assess the high-end audio equipment. Funny that while it's common knowledge that certain people hear more than others, we tend to think our ability to taste stuff is on par with everyone else's ability.
However, that's rather to the point... if a substantial portion of the population can't tell the difference, then many people don't need to buy the more expensive sound system, to continue your analogy, because they won't get anything extra out of it but they still do it because they want to have "the best."
@@Just_A_Dude True. In this case, however, it's two random people doing broscience, any conclusions of are simply worthless. You actually can make panel tests useful contrary to the bollocks I said here a year ago ;) just test the testers first to make sure they can sense the full spectrum and you'll have the good enough approximation of 'The Answer'. Whatever people do with it and how much it doesn't make a difference to their taste buds is their cup of coffee ;)
I just love the shirt!!! Haha, but ya V60 all the way for me.. it could just be the 5 minutes I get to zone out at work as I brew it... there’s always that. Great videos Jeremy! Keep crushing buddy!
Awesome video, nice job to you both! 😁👍
I like French press and percolated coffee myself
This guy's voice is so soothing and relaxing and I can't help but comment.
Best channel on UA-cam. Now that I’m 21 I can try everything he talks about 🤟🏽🤟🏽
Enjoy young pup!
WHO IS SERAFIN Yesterday I was this pups age. I woke up this morning about the same age as Jeremy.
21😂. I always forget how primitive American laws are.
You need to be 21 to drink coffee?
Try Jamaican blue mountain coffee ☕️
Blue Mountain coffee is awesome, bought a bag while in Jamaica during vacation and that bag lasted like 4 days. I was working night shift at the time and made it for everyone on my shift with a french press.
I wouldn't allow my wife to have any when I got a bag because she pollutes her coffee.
Chris Travis always one of my favorite so far
Last time I bought a pound it was $35. Now it’s almost a hundred for the real stuff.
@@lordgarth1 last time I got some it was 40$ a pound. I havent bought any in a couple of years
First, thanks for recording this in 4k!!!
New TV and I can smell the coffee... V60 is way stronger than the Chemex, unless you use the same filter.
Stronger would be v60
Chemex would be the cleanest.
Drip would be in the middle.
Technically they are all pourovers. The one called “drip” by you is surely going to be more consistent than a “manual pourover”. Why ? Pretty obvious, machines are more consistent. Manual pourovers however can more precisely dial in a coffee where the person who is making it is a coffee professional, said that they are fun to make and anyone should do a pretty decent job with all the 3 by knowing the basics. Hope this was helpful
Hilarious, I had to make that point too it's really just a matter of style how you want to look when you make your coffee lol it's funny to me how some people pretentiously look down on a drip machine like I'll never use a coffee machine again after using pour over and it never occurs to them all they're doing is manually pouring hot water over the grounds, doing the same exact thing the machine does. To me it would have made more sense to do a pour over machine or manual versus a press.
CitrusMcfly ☕️ would have loved to have seen the test include a stovetop percolator like my grandmother used.
A buddy of mine (who owns a snobby coffee shop) and I did this with a bunch of coffee snobs and people preferred the dip consistently and put the chemex dead last after French and Aero Press. The butt hurt was real.
I believe it after this blind.
That’s a very poor cigars smoked to coffee drinking ratio
Nice Video bro!
Wait wait, wait wait, wait... did you guys mix the coffee with milk?! looks a bit light brownish in the small cups ;O
Either way, the drip machines are not bad at all as long as they are clean and get good coffee beans. :D
Nope, I think it might look that way in the small cups because of how shallow they are. We went straight black for the sake of the tasting accuracy. 😉👍🏻
Keep in mind that’s a $300 drip coffee maker. Compare v60 or Chemex to a Mr. Coffee maker and it’s not even close.
I've been wishing for one of these Breville/Sage drip coffee makers ever since seeing a James Hoffman video on it. But it is closer to $350 (CAN) where I am. So for now, I keep using my $50 Chemex or my $100 Hamilton Beach FlexBrew. (The carafe half is the worst coffee maker I've owned, even compared to previous Hamilton Beach coffee makers).
"Pour-Over" Coffee is pretty standard/common in Asian countries - it's quick, authentic, and cheap. Brewed coffee without a coffee-maker.
But the moka is supposed to have 7g per coffee, 30g is about 160ml, 4 coffees....
So I don't get it, are those things something completely different from Italian coffe?
Peter McKinnon is really into pour over coffee and it certainly is more dramatic the way he films it. But I’ve been drinking coffee ever since I was in the Marine Corps 30 years ago and ALL coffee tastes better than what we had in the chow hall. Personally I’m more of a coffee user than a coffee drinker so whatever gets it into my system faster in the morning is what I’ll use.
Great video! I've made thousands of Pour-Over coffees. For me, it is simply a super "Zen" experience. That's why I do it now and will do it tomorrow, etc.
Speaking from Brazil: here you can find easy, a Ton of good coffee and ask to be toask right before be send to you. And i prefer expresso, hario V60, french press.
Is it just me or does Jeremy seem like an older Peter McKinnon??
With a glorious beard tho! 🧔
(from my experience) the brew method doesn't *really* matter - it's the quality of coffee, water, grind size, and most importantly the water to bean ratio. Sure, certain coffees taste different (not necessarily better) with different brew methods, but it starts with the origin and quality of the coffee. when I go to a shop, rarely do I order a pour over - I'll just get drip of a good, quality coffee. Pour overs at shops (imo) have diminishing returns.
It's probably based on what they are used to. I usually get sick of drinking the same coffee so I have a few different types that I go to based on how I feel. Also that coffee maker is actually a really good maker so it should really be compared to a cheaper maker. I'd get pour over to not pay for a machine one
I started watching you about 9 months ago off the apple pie moon shine video and you were at 100K subs .... now 310K plus impressive! Hope you don't mind but been taking notes (thumbs up emoji) Just wanted to share some love to the channel
I try different coffee brands, different makers (aeropress, moka, french press, south indian filter) but my wife is not bothered about anything. Give her a half-decent pre-ground coffee brand and she will stick with it for the rest of her life with her french press ... even though that brand doesn't give her a french press grind. I guess, like all other wives, she has more important things to be bothered about. Hell, she will never watch such coffee videos either.
Whatever method you choose, it all starts with good coffee
Next weeks video “can you really tell a difference between Charmin and a single ply?” The blind shit test
You are a lucky man - beautiful wife
Thanks 😊
I don’t even drink coffee or whiskey, but I love your videos! Stay real Jeremy! 👍🏽👍🏽
Can you two taste test INVADER COFFEE??They have a whiskey Blend, yes WHISKEY! .www.invader coffee.com. I’ve been doing pour-overs religiously for 5 years. The coffee just tastes better to me, the method is fun (Yipeee) and I can definitely say it’s a relaxing morning ritual. Thank you two for sharing!
The fact that your least favorite coffee is the one you drink all the time, just shows that , among GOOD coffee-making methods anf GOOD coffee, people prefer a change in smell and flavor. A new unique taste is preferred - so just keep mixing it up and enjoy your coffee from different flavors and ways of making it!
You should do more videos with your lovely wife Jeremy, this is the second one that I've seen and you both have great chemistry on screen and makes for dooe content 👍
Thanks Calvin!!! I appreciate that my brotha. She is my best bud!! 😉👍🏻
@@JeremySiers welcome brother and it shows that you have a great relationship with your wife and comes across really well on screen. The yin to your yang as it were
She is for sure. Plus she calls me on my BS and keeps me humble and grounded. 😂
@@JeremySiers 😂😂 I can imagine and why you have such a great relationship, because your wife doesn't let you get away with BS 😂😂👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I use a pour on top every day for the purpose of not going the "easy way" lol. I.E. with a pour on top, you have to clean/take care of it after every use where just slapping a K Cup or brewing a whole pot and walking away is too easy. The coarser the grind, the more the flavor comes out with pour on top (generally, from my experiences at least.) My favorite coffee so far is Taste of Texas from Lola Savanah Coffee, I'll get a 2lb bag of whole bean for 30$ and experiment with the grinds.
FWIW, I use Hario but that Precision brew is pretty much a pour over. If we ever buy another coffee machine, this will likely be the one. We have considered the Technivorm but Breville really his the mark with this brewer. I went through some comparisons myself. We had a Capressi and a Cuisinart machines. To me, they make coffee with less definition. They both put out muddled earthy coffees that you could not define any tastes. Once I dialed in the Hario, I found that all the aromas and flavors became totally evident. FYI, I found this video because I have been watching your whiskey vids.
Manual is better for the simple fact that you have control over all the variables. Let's be honest, that Breville is top of the line but in the end, it just mimicks a pour over... For $300. Just go manual and put that $300 towards a nice grinder. Also, I highly recommend the 4:6 method in the v60. Adjust the water temperature to suit the roast profile and it'll give you the sweetest cup of coffee ever.
If compared to a drip machine, yes. Though it can end up bad too. It comes down to fresh beans, good water, and the right ratio of coffee to water. I have a V60 02 pour over with white paper filters. The key is to get the correct amount of coffee to water. Right now I do 21 grams of coffee to around 500 of water as seen on the 02 hario server. Drip leads to acidity and burnt taste. BY the way your wife is like mine. She don't care and just dumps coffee in and water and drinks lol I never buy preground. Quickest way to bad coffee. Always grind.
Automatic machines generally produce higher extractions because they are enclosed and trap in more heat, as well as pulse pour throughout the brew to raise extractions without loosing much heat. The Chemex on the other hand is made of glass which has terrible heat retention which produces a lower extraction (even less heat retention with its extremely wide mouth). The V60 (plastic) is a great heat insulator and its filter paper is more porous than the Chemex, causing faster brew times and much less channeling (coffee clogging the filter) which leads to under extracted particles and over extracted particles in certain parts of the brew bed. The filter paper on drip is generally even more porous than the V60 which can lead to really clean brews if your grind size is coarser than it normally is for V60 (since the automatic machines extraction will be higher, you can hit bitter/masking notes quick that kill off bright/acidic flavors). It's really surprising what a very small grind adjustment can do to bring out a coffees flavor. If you're not hitting noticeable differences for each brew method, i'd recommend using great water (Third Wave Water is a good start) and dialing in every coffee per brew method by grind size. Once you get those two things locked in, you can change the ratio for even more experimentation.
Just thought i'd share a few bits and pieces. Love your content and I hope this can help get you some dope brews out of that drip (best one on the market IMO).
P.S. the cupping "slurp" is to spray the coffee on all taste receptors on the tongue as well as vaporize to sense most of the taste from our nose.
I don’t get it... this is a blind test of three drip filter methods / pour overs... so if it’s “Is pour over coffee really better... than pour over?” then the title makes sense. Perhaps a fresh (geddit? 😉) video of pour over, aeropress, french press, moka pot and americano, now you’ve got a black coffee taste test 👍🏼
I think pour over is generally better than your average sub $100 drip machine if your technique, recipe, and water temp is right. But I would bet most people who aren’t already into pour over also wouldn’t be buying Breville drip brewer. The Breville is awesome and it makes Pour over quality brew, but at a steep price.
Hey Siers, you gotta check out SweetMarias, they sell green coffee beans from around the world. Green beans in a West Bend Poppery II popcorn popper from ebay at about $30 and you are roasting your own beans. I have been doing it for more than a decade. You want to get nerdy over your coffee? That is the next level sh#$. Cheers.
It is very easy to get a sour cup from a Chemex, in my opinion (I brew with one every day). So, I don't know that one time is enough with this :p you can have some serious variation from the unrestricted flow. For instance, today's brew the filter stuck too much to the wall and restricted the flow. It was a bit too strong. That Breville though ;) probably is very precise.
Hey! Just dropped by and I think you should make a point of comparison: how much coffee and water or at least the ratio for the three methods, and also the Breville is a pour over in my opinion, so... I thought maybe comparing Chemex to french press o aeropress would be a point of comparison... But if you're making a comparison between different pour over methods this is definitely a best start
When I’m hiking, pour over coffee is my go to... and yes if you have the water to ground ratio to your liking, as well as some good coffee it’s phenomenal
What it means is your drip pot allows for the bloom creating a more flavorful cup lol.. I swore by ECBP once until a blind told me I liked Stagg Jr. better... Damn blinds 🤣
I think in the UK the Breville precision brewer is the Sage precision brewer (www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B079TTDVCD/ref=dp_prsubs_1) - the product codes for each are almost identical! Great video!
Breville/sage brewer is kinda an unfair comparison. You can get a V60 and pouring kettle for not all that much, that drip brewer is hella good but very VERY expensive
The pour over coffee is only as good as the person making it is good at it. It is not as simple as people think just pouring hot water over ground coffee. Every little bit from water to techniques changes the cup so dramatically that even two people making the same coffee from the same bag, ground at the same time with the same kettle of water will produce two very distinctively different cups. It takes a lot of practice and a ton of terrible cups to finally get to where you're pumping out consistently awesome cups. This is a bad test because in order to actually do this test it would require someone with the skill down to make a great pour-over and even then if they have mastered example the v60 or kalita doesn't mean they have mastered the chemex that is a whole different animal in its own. Every pour over device has its nuances and requires adjustment to both how you pour and how you treat the coffee/bed in the basket. Otherwise your just pumping out barely mediocre coffee no matter how good it is!
i dont get the point of the video if youre not comparing it to what the majority considers as drip or pod/kcups or whatever burnt drop coffee tastes like.
in this video youre using a speciality coffee, fresh ground, but just with different brew methods, 1 of which is actually a precision brewer certified by the SCA
so if youre trying to justify the hype of pourover, maybe compare different coffees using 1 of the pourover methods
Folgers Classic Roast, 2/3 cup of grounds, 12 cups of tap water, Hamilton Beach Flex brew machine. I know, I am pathetic.
Your video qualities are dope I subscribed after the video of you building a desk aha.. what camera are you using btw I can’t decide on the lumix gh5 or Sony a7iii?
This made me laugh. I tried every coffee snob way there is (pour over. French press, percolater,drip) a d always like my keurig (gasp) best.
I didn't see this mentioned, however technique was something you did not address. Maybe your wife liked the pour over b/c you have a solid technique and you liked the drip cuz she's not as good at pour over. (just a shot in the dark)
Drip, Chemex and V60 theoretically all should yield same taste result due to all these are technically the same method of brewing and that is pouring water over the ground coffee on a filter. The variables you may have there is the water temperature and how aggressive you flood the grounds with hot water....
Your wife objectively has more connoisseur pour over taste than you. Proving She could run this show rastefully blindfolded better than you . This was informative and fun viewing
the problem with the pour over for me, is unless you spend all this money on a goose neck kettle, a better than average grinder, a meticulous technique, great beans etc etc, its inconsistent and, mostly pretty good, but rarely great. and when its great, its like chasing a high all over again. im just not willing to spend so much money and fuss. Moke pot makes the best coffee i think, with the least amount of work. I only brew with moka now.
Love me some pour over coffee .. let it bloom dood! 😝 lol
Sour= under extracted, so re do the test except for Chemex either pour slower or grind finer. On another note if you like really full velvety brews, then what are you doing with paper filter methods? Just go for French Press.
Maybe it's about how good each of your coffees were to begin with, maybe you pour a better cup than your wife and she doesn't beat the dripper you have. it would be a better blind if you had a third party labeling the coffee and you had 2 cups of each... too much complication for an enjoyable video perhaps, I liked the content anyway
I think pour oer coffee is not necessarily better than drip coffee. It just allows more flexibility when you brew. You can adjust brew speed, temperature for different coffee with pour over while you can only have one speed and one temperature with the drip machine.
Fun video Jeremy. Sounds like the Chemex could have used a slightly finer grind to get rid of the sour. By the way, you absolutely have the right to make fun of other big bearded gentleman.
>has sick tats, rocks an insane beard and wears a Seiko and Oris watch
Now this is someone i can 200% trust :)
Would've loved for you to say the V60 was but hey i'll take 2nd place and 1st place.
My V60 kit should arrive very soon so i'm pretty excited to try it out, thanks for this nice blind test video :D
What is pour over coffee? I've literally never heard of it. What is the process? this video does not show the actual process between drip and pour over. I have no clue what the difference is. Can someone explain this? Please excuse my ignorance on this.
I mainly do drip due to time but if I'm not pressed for time I do pour over. I have a Boudum pour over and a Coffee Ninja. I honestly don't taste a huge difference but I also don't use fancy coffee. Great video though.
Sorry if this is asked and answered; did you use paper filters or metal filters on the pour over? The oils allowed into the coffee without paper filters may change the taste and "mouth feel" of the coffee. This is a big thing for French press. Maybe go again with the French press?
This was super cute and y'all are fun to watch. As for me, just give me coffee. Brew it, pour over it, press it, percolate it, boil it, extract it, just...give me coffee and I'm good. :)
I like the pour over because I put it away when its done and doesnt take up counter space in the kitchen like the ol drip coffee maker. Make super strong coffee and only have 24-32 oz gor the day.
Do the test again with a Mr coffee which is what 99 percent of people use. I used self ground beans and good water in one at work and it came out like trash. Way too hot and bitter. I haven't used self pour yet I didn't hear about it till today.
I started doing pour overs after watching an Alton Brown show about coffee 15 years ago. I've never gone back to a coffee maker. I don't even own one in fact. Just a ceramic funnel and a great kettle. All you need.
How do you keep your beard from getting super dry? I do lotions and all sorts of stuff but when my beard and mustache gets to be only about an inch long I get incurable beard dandruff and it's extremely itchy and uncomfortable.
At the end of the day is just water pouring on top of a coffee bed. So I guess the automatic dripper is also a pourover. If you spend some time tuning the grind size and control the water temperature you can have a much stable brew with an automatic brewer of time. Do it by hand and you will use a different pouring rate each time
Is it just me, or are all pour overs very small? 500 grams is like 2 cups if I recall, and most are about that. And most drips do 6-8 minimum.
A standard Mr coffee maker woulda been a better chalange. A top notch 2-300 dollar dripper that almost mimics pour over is not the best comparison.
All good but pour over should have been compared to espresso based coffee like americano. Drip coffee is usually in the doughnut store coffee category..
I think he was thinking hard about what his selection says about his ability to taste good coffee rather than actually focus on what tastes good spontaneously ... in her case, she just tasted without really thinking about what outcomes she wanted, and hence probably her tasting is more spot on...
I'm guessing before watching that it should be pretty much the same. A coffee pot IS pour over coffee. There are even coffee machines that use the cone pour-over filters. The reason people use the PO systems is that they get more control
The palett changes daily. Some days the same beer tastes different the next day as it did the previous. Things change constantly. Same with coffee.
If you haven't already could you do a review on aberlour 12 year old single malt. Really nice whisky and a good price 30 GBP
I'm gonna go out there and say there is a chance that you were doing a reverse bias where you are most used to the coffee you taste and therefore it's not as impressive to the mind because it's what you expect. Therefore that which is most different could accidentally become what is most interesting. In this case the drip versus the pour.
Here is my unscientific opinion. I think when you try a new coffee or new technique it tastes good the first time then your tastebuds get used to it (like wearing the same perfume you can’t smell it as much over time)That’s why I think you liked them opposite of what you were used to drinking. It was different and more vibrant to your tastebuds. 🤷♀️
Buffalo Trace!!! Yeah buddy. I’m enjoying right now Elijah Craig and a Tatiana flavored cigar
Maybe drip (which I think is also a form of pour over as the water does come from the top) is not bad as long as you dont let the coffee burn for hours on the hot plate. So if freshly brewed and consumed there might be little to no difference???.
There is no best way to brew coffee, its whichever coffee that tastes best to you. I brew all the methods and yet I really, really enjoy perculator coffee, which should be technically one of the worst.