IN DEPTH | Neko Mulally | Enduro Bike

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  • Опубліковано 18 лип 2023
  • Some info on the new enduro bike! With the same frame parts as the DH bike and the same philosophy for suspension, the bike rides very similar to the DH bike, just less travel.
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  • @FomeDH
    @FomeDH Рік тому +42

    can’t wait to see where this goes neko… counting down the days where i can own my own frameworks

    • @Officernoob
      @Officernoob Рік тому

      Are you saying you want to build your own or ride the bikes neko is building?

    • @benjamin.schmidt
      @benjamin.schmidt 10 місяців тому

      it isnt even sure that he will even ever sell any of these bikes

    • @itr0863
      @itr0863 8 місяців тому

      @@benjamin.schmidt his dh frame goes on presale wednesday 11/8!, his enduro frame goes on sale later

  • @downtimepodcast
    @downtimepodcast Рік тому +5

    Nice work mate! Seatpost insertion is a winner for me.

  • @traildaze1895
    @traildaze1895 Рік тому +3

    It would be cool to see some SLM 3d printed lugs or rocker links tested. You can get real funky and organic with the designs and it would be super precise for welding

  • @thefreeak
    @thefreeak Рік тому +1

    LOVE this. Love the transparency in your process.

  • @PeterJamison
    @PeterJamison Рік тому +4

    These videos are so amazing Neko! Keep crushing it!

  • @slimdog72
    @slimdog72 Рік тому +2

    This is so rad. Thanks for taking us along for the design and ride of your dream ride. I would love to see more of the fabrication side of the builds.

  • @ChlorophyllCrusher
    @ChlorophyllCrusher Рік тому +9

    So good! Honestly, if I were to buy an enduro frame, I’d go to Neko first. I really appreciate the transparent development process!

    • @jonathanhowson6420
      @jonathanhowson6420 Рік тому

      Are you mad? That rusty gate behind the bike will be lighter than it.

  • @shaneridesmtb
    @shaneridesmtb Рік тому +1

    These videos are so good for nerds like me! Thanks for sharing so much in depth info about the process

  • @Dorkbike
    @Dorkbike Рік тому +2

    That shock extender idea is interesting and a very good idea for multiple reasons. Fun to hear about the process, best of luck on all the refinements.

  • @JJ_MTB_15
    @JJ_MTB_15 Рік тому

    In depth videos are the fricken best, bike looks great.

  • @walterbrown6388
    @walterbrown6388 11 місяців тому

    such a cool project. I really like hearing about all the design elements you've incorporated as well as a little explanation on why what you chose is good and how it's different from the alternative - ie anti rise and shock position.

  • @locualoein8543
    @locualoein8543 День тому

    FW ... Frank the welder. Frank Wadelton has done it. Nice 🤙

  • @spinthatup3851
    @spinthatup3851 Рік тому +3

    Love it! I'm actually stoked to have the straight tube headtube, as a rider between sizes most of th time it is limiting on trail bikes to have that adjustment. One of the reasons I got my latest trail bike is because I could fit in a Works cup to make it 5mm longer

  • @cartercrawford4631
    @cartercrawford4631 Рік тому +2

    You’re an absolute legend my dude.

  • @richardtwyman7589
    @richardtwyman7589 Рік тому

    You are now k my list of people I'd live to have a beer with. Love what you are doing and your honesty. Nice work bro.

  • @stevenjones5602
    @stevenjones5602 Рік тому +1

    Looking forward to the inevitable ‘steel-mainframe/carbon-rear-end’ iteration 😜🖤🤘🏻

  • @MILTONATOR
    @MILTONATOR Рік тому

    Big fan of these in-depth videos. Looking forward to one day owning a frameworks myself 🫡

  • @rolfsteinhausen8668
    @rolfsteinhausen8668 8 місяців тому

    Keep up the hard work. Nice to know that you have an enduro frame too. Cheers.

  • @JordiMoll
    @JordiMoll 6 місяців тому

    What a perfect bike. Love it. I will ride one of this soon. All my best wishes to you and the people arround you ✨⭐

  • @erikburmeister4241
    @erikburmeister4241 Рік тому

    Magic geometry! Brutal looks

  • @lars_atx
    @lars_atx Рік тому

    Great walkthrough on the bike.

  • @liamwoods5353
    @liamwoods5353 Рік тому +3

    what a weapon! Bike looks decent as well

  • @gravitybass
    @gravitybass Рік тому

    Thought I saw this thing in the Snowshoe Basin side lift line! Love the shock extender idea. My Norco Sight eeb has the same setup and it seems like a good way to keep lateral stress off the shock. Surprised more manufacturers don’t do it!

  • @5DEV
    @5DEV Рік тому +1

    Stoked to be a part of this project!

  • @DannyridesMTB55
    @DannyridesMTB55 Рік тому

    I Love watching these vids and Geeking out Neko!! I can’t say 39 lbs is that bad I have a FOES Mixer that is 36 LBS and I Love it to Death!! The way you built it up is totally Bomb Proof!! If they ever go on sale I might have to buy one and I think Brent might get mad at me but I Love the Geo that you are using and you Brent he will not change at all!! Keep the Productions coming and I also Love the music you pick!!🍺🍺🍺

  • @alexgordon8277
    @alexgordon8277 Рік тому

    I really like the shock mount. It's a good idea to allow more degrees of freedom for the shock to compensate the alignment tolerances instead to rely on tight tolerances. Also better when the bike deflects under load. Same robust design, that'st what I like.

  • @JustSnowglow
    @JustSnowglow Рік тому

    Love the shock mount.

  • @tabby4kyeet589
    @tabby4kyeet589 Рік тому

    Saw this while racing nationals at rock creek and it looks super sick in person

  • @ryansteiger6960
    @ryansteiger6960 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video Neko, very interesting 👍

  • @aidanmtb4594
    @aidanmtb4594 10 місяців тому

    those bikes are sweet. keep building them if you do end up putting up a few for sale i would 100% pick one up.

  • @brokinarrow1
    @brokinarrow1 Рік тому

    Nice job and excellent presentation,great to see you back racing.A couple quick thoughts,is there any plan to have a mullet option via flip chip etc.,and it might be nice to have 10mm chain stay length adjustment,say between 435 and 445 if possible to accommodate tighter riding conditions.Weight will definitely be consideration for some,but seems like you have it all covered,best of luck and obviously your hard work and determination is paying off.Final thought,can't wait to see Asa Vermette racing world cups and it would be amazing to see him riding your bikes at those events!

  • @finroddd
    @finroddd Рік тому +1

    a significant amount of the geo and the lower shock mount are the same with Pole bikes

  • @MegaTerribleone
    @MegaTerribleone Рік тому

    That big rocker gives it that Kona stinky vibe
    Sometimes you can look back to move forward nice rig

  • @lynxg4641
    @lynxg4641 Рік тому +1

    Again love the straight forward, honesty of the videos and process, so refreshing, looking forward to seeing where this goes. With regards to the tubing and HT, yup definitely some weight savings there, but I'd still want the HT to accept a standard that can run angle/reach adjust headsets easily so you could tune the bike if you're riding seriously steep vs not so steep or really tight vs more open.
    Geo looks about on par for that sort of bike, but STA for me is WAY too steep. So as someone who's NOT a fan of super steep STA, I'm curious when you say you were out all day pedaling, was that all just basically winch and plummet type, i.e. climb to descend or did you do much, if any flat/rolling terrain or long mellow climbs/mellower climbing? What sort of effort would you say you gave when not descending?

  • @haroldthomas1077
    @haroldthomas1077 Рік тому

    Love this Neko! Really appreciate the thought you've put into the design and also sharing that thinking with us. Which headset do you use in that ZS56/56 head tube?

  • @charlietango6546
    @charlietango6546 4 місяці тому

    Hope that eventually their frames or complete Frameworks bikes become available for purchase

  • @eeveerowland841
    @eeveerowland841 Рік тому +1

    I like that bike I have a 2010 Bottlerocket with a modern build . And what I like about it is the frame weight because once that suspension gets pushed it just gets so good on the trail and I see the purposeful design here so good Nico how do you think of that sideways shock that’s nifty

  • @adamschaeffer3614
    @adamschaeffer3614 Рік тому

    Well done, stay with it!

  • @uldi1s
    @uldi1s 10 місяців тому

    Love what you're doing Neko, love the bike and your way of thinking 😎
    Where will we be able to get one of these?
    And will you make a 500mm reach one for taller guys?

  • @hannes6114
    @hannes6114 Рік тому +1

    That thing looks ablolutely sick.

  • @jeromeblais7972
    @jeromeblais7972 11 місяців тому

    This bike look really interesting, this geometry look good, I would be curious to ride this. Look like Privateer or Pole with the steep seat tube. 👍

  • @coldwill4021
    @coldwill4021 Рік тому

    loving the uninterrupted seat tube. Last bike I used a 240 on was an Orange and everything else is a disappointment now.

  • @cben86
    @cben86 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing all the details. Have you considered running a longer head tube? 170mm might sound crazy but I'd be curious for your take on taller stack bikes.

  • @philliplucion4262
    @philliplucion4262 Рік тому

    Neko do a in depth on your downhill bike you are the start of a new mtb future keep going forward bro

  • @andymajewski9084
    @andymajewski9084 Рік тому

    Thanks for the details on the anti-rise. I feel like that's a really overlooked aspect of suspension feel. My last enduro bike (4-bar) had over 100% AR, and felt terrible braking, even with an O-chain. My current bikes are down around 60-70% like yours and feel miles better, even without an O-chain.

    • @harrie205
      @harrie205 Рік тому +3

      I think you mixed up Anti rise and pedal kickback

  • @markwoods5080
    @markwoods5080 Рік тому

    The ultimate Pisgah bike. Awesome

  • @drewdavidson2131
    @drewdavidson2131 Рік тому

    Would love to see a pure 29er trail bike that is more well rounded for the ups as well as downs.

  • @BlueGoose29
    @BlueGoose29 Рік тому

    that rig is sick dude, nice work all the way around. Is it convertable to full 29er? Really dig this frameworks series, so cool

  • @talesfromthetrailz
    @talesfromthetrailz Рік тому

    That STA is like 90 deg!!!! Wholly sheiiiiit!!!

  • @kanethomas6998
    @kanethomas6998 Рік тому

    Super impressed Neko thank you for all that info.
    What are you feeding those cows ? They move like the Flash 😂

  • @khattrimtb89
    @khattrimtb89 Рік тому

    Much More Excited ☺️🎉

  • @andyboy198577777
    @andyboy198577777 Рік тому

    It sounds like you learned a lot making this bike!

  • @daviddavies2561
    @daviddavies2561 Рік тому

    Does the current weight include centrifugal clutch weights in the cassette?
    Awesome video as always and good luck with your continued recovery.

  • @MTBMcPhee
    @MTBMcPhee Рік тому

    Geo looks damn near perfect, great job! What compression and rebound tunes do you run on the shock?

  • @JWO1965
    @JWO1965 Рік тому +1

    The cattle are definitely interested

  • @jaredrude431
    @jaredrude431 Рік тому +4

    I love the straight seat tube and long rear end and external cable routing. Also 39 lbs isn't too bad for an enduro bike, my 2019 Meta AM with 27.5 DH casing tires and a coil shock is also 39 lbs. If you can put in huge amounts of FEA and trial and error and testing you can prob take it all the way down to 36 lbs. Not really worth all the effort, IMO, unless you plan on mass production and selling 10,000 per year.

    • @obi-wankenobi9871
      @obi-wankenobi9871 Рік тому

      FEA isnt the issue, its easy. Determining the loads is difficult part.
      I dont think its too heavy. My enduro bike also weighs 39 pounds.

    • @jaredrude431
      @jaredrude431 Рік тому

      @@obi-wankenobi9871 what you say may be true, but my point was going through all the engineering r&d effort required to reduce the weight a marginal amount is a very large effort and will be expensive. It becomes diminishing returns unless he sells a huge number of frames.

  • @kresokresovski7515
    @kresokresovski7515 11 місяців тому

    So what that is 17 kg, better heavier and strong, than lighter and fragile! Keep on good work and great videos!

  • @two6s722
    @two6s722 Рік тому

    bravo!

  • @jokermtb
    @jokermtb Рік тому

    this is the Telecaster of enduro bikes!

  • @Motoch3
    @Motoch3 Рік тому

    Love the information! Why aluminum instead of steel? Was it weight? I see you like the 29" front and 27.5" rear. What is the reason?

  • @spy1948
    @spy1948 Рік тому

    cool background

  • @Andrew.Drennan
    @Andrew.Drennan Рік тому

    I would be all about that bike. The only thing I don't love is the carbon but I understand why

  • @graham8316
    @graham8316 Рік тому

    Its so pretty

  • @denisrogers4358
    @denisrogers4358 Рік тому

    Frank the Welder rules
    Go Neko !
    F.T.W. in ‘24
    🔨

  • @JaggedTusk
    @JaggedTusk Рік тому

    sick

  • @McSchwabl
    @McSchwabl Рік тому

    I would love it if you would send this bike to Pinkbike for testing

  • @Walker124
    @Walker124 Рік тому

    I would love to be a tester fot this bike

  • @Hello_riders_1993
    @Hello_riders_1993 Рік тому

    I want that thing

  • @alexstrauss5767
    @alexstrauss5767 Рік тому

    Did he mention what the seat tube angle there? It looks super steep, I love it!

    • @andrewfife8437
      @andrewfife8437 Рік тому +1

      I think it was 80. Sounds like it might get a hair slacker for production

  • @simonadams4807
    @simonadams4807 Рік тому

    Ill take one as soon as its ready to sell

  • @michaelb.5399
    @michaelb.5399 Рік тому

    don't you think you need two different CoG for anti squat and anti rise? I mean, while braking you bend your legs a little more than while pedaling? however, thanks a lot for the great insights!!! 🙂

  • @DougieFresh13
    @DougieFresh13 Рік тому

    I need a frame!!!!

  • @Ganiscol
    @Ganiscol Рік тому +1

    Is there a roadmap to market for this puppy? 😊

  • @WorldwideCyclery
    @WorldwideCyclery Рік тому

    The cows checking out the bike like 👀

  • @Jimmyhickey90
    @Jimmyhickey90 Рік тому

    Looks like a v2 transition patrol with a steeper seat tube.

    • @Jimmyhickey90
      @Jimmyhickey90 Рік тому

      Almost exactly the same sizing and geo too.

  • @jeffcragle8665
    @jeffcragle8665 Рік тому

    Not buying another bike until this is sold

  • @harrie205
    @harrie205 Рік тому

    Nice bike
    But why not keep the dh tubing(there are enough bikes which break on the market(this could be a true bike park/enduro/trail bike)

  • @josephlane1949
    @josephlane1949 Рік тому

    Hey would love to analyze data you collect between models to help infer which changes do what! Have a data engineering machine learning background. Would love to help out if it’s something you want! Cheers!

  • @caderidenour642
    @caderidenour642 Рік тому

    What sag do you run on this and how do you measure? Seated standing etc.

  • @sloops4398
    @sloops4398 Рік тому

    Why do you make the top tube like this? Your seatpost is pullled a lot out so why not making the top tube more horizontal? Then also a bigger bottle would fit in.

  • @janeblogs324
    @janeblogs324 Рік тому

    But what does the frame weigh?
    Any chance of getting one with a regular seat post angle? 73-74° etc?

  • @caderidenour642
    @caderidenour642 Рік тому

    60% of the time, it works every time

  • @milobarge5315
    @milobarge5315 Рік тому

    Yo Neko! Where did you get a strait steerer fox factory? I have and older bike with a strait steerer but the fork is beyond blown out.
    Anyways, you should try out enduro!

    • @Tannervmtb
      @Tannervmtb Рік тому +1

      It’s a tapered steerer, ZS56 headset top and bottom but has a reducer up top

  • @jamestucker4886
    @jamestucker4886 Рік тому

    I don't think you said it in the video or maybe I missed it but what material is the this new bike made from?

  • @Xgecko66
    @Xgecko66 Рік тому

    What’s with that tiny front brake rotor?

  • @DougieFresh13
    @DougieFresh13 Рік тому

    I'm in lake placid

  • @jankaskyevitchjellbet7293
    @jankaskyevitchjellbet7293 Рік тому

    Crude AF but like it

  • @atraildog
    @atraildog Рік тому

    Beefy bike 👌 🇺🇲

  • @djjazzynic
    @djjazzynic Рік тому

    We not steel??

  • @ojanpohja
    @ojanpohja Рік тому +1

    Looks a lot like Pole geometry 🧐

    • @ojanpohja
      @ojanpohja Рік тому

      Even the shock is mounted sideways 😄

  • @momohwak8686
    @momohwak8686 Рік тому

    Can I buy this Frame?

  • @petarfiolic5980
    @petarfiolic5980 Рік тому

    It looks like cube 140 hpa sl

  • @winry9762
    @winry9762 10 місяців тому

    I hope you succeed... Please make your products.. less expensive😁.

  • @MichaelHStock
    @MichaelHStock Рік тому

    Will be waiting for the day I can throw some money at you and frank!

  • @BlueSkies123456
    @BlueSkies123456 Рік тому

    17 kg is pretty standard, I wouldn't worry about that.

  • @ImSueeb
    @ImSueeb Рік тому

    Any thoughts on adding internal cable routing ?

    • @DannyridesMTB55
      @DannyridesMTB55 Рік тому

      Why??

    • @Ahaggah
      @Ahaggah Рік тому +2

      lmao that has zero advantages and multiple cons. 100% not gonna happen.

  • @Stomperproductions
    @Stomperproductions Рік тому

    I cant deal with the aesthetics when the seatstay is steeper than the top tube :(

  • @barrakingbeatz7794
    @barrakingbeatz7794 Рік тому

    455 chain stay 😢 440 would be nice

    • @MTBMcPhee
      @MTBMcPhee Рік тому

      Plenty of Norco Sight copies out there with 440 stays. This would be way more balanced with the front centre

  • @hannes6114
    @hannes6114 Рік тому

    Was mentioned how much travel it has?

    • @kam1l0
      @kam1l0 Рік тому +1

      160/160 I think

    • @hannes6114
      @hannes6114 Рік тому +1

      @@kam1l0 thank you

  • @DougieFresh13
    @DougieFresh13 Рік тому

    Sell me a frame. Please!!! An older trail frame