Technically, the timer should stop when the cue ball stops moving. The break isn't over when the black disappears - only when the white is no longer at risk of going in-off or being fouled before it comes to rest.
Really enjoyed this! Informative, succinct & entertaining video on the world record breaking break, by the man who will probably go down as the greatest snooker player in history! Great job mate. 😁👍🏻👍🏻
I like what he said during the candid interview. He is very truthful to himself. I also admired the way he fight for what he thought injustices for lowering the maximum prize.
It was updated between 2019-01-24 and 2019-02-24 according to snapshots taken of www.guinnessworldrecords.com on the wayback machine. Ronnie's profIle was also updated at www.worldsnooker.com between 2017-05-05 and 2017-05-20 to 5min. 8 sec.( using the same tool).
The crowds and announcers always get me in videos like this the announcers try to predict what the players will do but they're usually wrong and the audience usually don't seem to know much about pool because they'll applaud what they think is a safety when it gives the other play the best opening of the match I've also seen them applaud an easy shot the player makes even tho their leave after the shot is horrible I always thought that had to be the biggest slap In the face after you make a mistake and hide yourself and the crowd cheers for it
@@richardhinton4232 like someone commented above the applause is usually for another table and not the shots you've mentioned also its snooker not pool
Peter Ebdon’s father was a prison officer and with Ronnie Snr serving a Life sentence a match between Ronnie and Ebdon had a special significance in the shovel. I was in HMP Frankland with Ronnie’s dad when he made that 147 and he was buzzing. The authorities really came down heavily on their whole family as his mum was prosecuted for not paying some VAT and got 2 1/2 years (I think) and Ronnie and his sister were only kids at the time with both parents in prison. I can understand why he suffers from depression but nobody wants to go into the whole situation. Ronnie is a legend despite the psychological and emotional hurt he must have felt. I know he made his old man so proud!
I think the time should start from when the balls stop rolling from the previous players last shot: We include thinking time between shots, so we should include thinking time for the first shot.
@@foddyfoddy don't be afraid, am not a monsters nor a devil, a meme is what makes u laugh. Price is known because of this match. Heis the opponent of ronnie here.
@@cocktail7426 I'm not afraid of anything, just shocked at your ignorance at not knowing what a meme is. It's "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme." I suggest you go and study before using a word you don't understand.
Include when the cue ball stops after the last black. That should adds up to 5.20. Logic makes sense - start from when cue ball stopped before first red - end when cue ball stopped after the last black. Using this logic, there will be no airtime between breaks which is where i believe this logic of recording stands and the 5.20 was coming from.
Some of King Crimson "Larks Tongue in Aspic" was used in "Emmanuelle" a very popular mid-seventies X-rated movie. Does that make King Crimson porn music?
The timer starts here at 1:29 but I don't entirely agree with this. If you think about it carefully a break should start as soon as the player is at the table and ready to take his shot. This means that all the balls should be still after the last players shot and the last player and the referee should be in a position that is not interfering with the next players shot. At this time the player is then studying the table and deliberating over their next shot so they are now technically in play. If it takes a player 2 seconds or 4 minutes to decide how he is going to play his first shot this time should be included in the timer as he is now at the table and "in play". With this in mind the timer in this video should have started at 1:25 instead of 1:29. The timer also must run until the white stops moving after the black has been potted to allow for any potential fouls with the white like in offs, leaving the table or coming in contact with the players body while on the table to use a few examples. So all in all there should be approximately 5 seconds added to this timer so 5 minutes 13 seconds is a more legitimate time. A remarkable achievement by Ronnie nonetheless and even with this it's still 7 seconds faster than the previously recorded time.
Yes, when I timed it, I thought a lot of time went by before he made the break. I questioned the time myself from the start, because the break seemed to be based on the time of the entire frame. But I only questioned it in my head. Were there any left handed shots in that break? I always get lost in the moment when I watch it.
Great video of a young Ronnie. Absolutely unbelievable. It's the uploaders choice of course, but the music is annoying and unnecessary. My opinion only of course.
In about 45 - 60 years, some bloke will break a 5 min 9 second 147 and this debate will be all the rage. I believe it will eventually be given to him, but sadly, some bloke will break that record in about 75 - 90 years from now. We usually have about 60 or 80 years between geniuses. Joe Davis and Ronnie, for example.
Mayur Ramdasi he missed the cannon. Those reds he cannoned were both already on into the corner. You’ve just been influenced by the audience clapping and commentators. And not looking at it objectively
The worst thing about this break is that is it's us Ronnie fans that should have blown the whistle and realised it wasn't the original stated time of 5 min 20 sec!
@@rickharrison3522 Judging by what other players who witnessed alex on the practice table in his early says have said, I would think a break so fast unextraordinary in comparison to some of his other feats. Higgins was a vicious scoundrel at times, but he rarely lied. There is a film of him in 1971 making a century in 2 minutes and 55 seconds. It is utterly conceivable that a young higgins made a 118 in two minutes and four seconds. Besides, rex William's and john Pullman were present at the time and witnessed this extraordinary achievement.
@@stanleyharrison7031 Alex Higgins had less than 100 centuries at the end of his career, so I really doubt it. Alex Higgins is a legend, but he was also drunk all the time, so who knows what's the truth.
@@rickharrison3522 you buffoon. In the early days of snooker there were barely any tournaments per year and most of the games Alex played were exhibitions. When there are tournaments every two seconds like nowadays it is much easier to make lots of centuries. Remember, Alex began playing people like Spencer and Reardon in 68 when the game was virtually dead. I imagine if all the centuries he made in exhibitions and challenge matches were counted the reckoning would be in the several hundreds. Note that Higgins made his first maximum in 65 and had made 11 by 1979, the most of any player every up to that point.
@@stanleyharrison7031 He only made one official 147 lmao. Dude stop taking those numbers out of your ass, if it's not official it doesn't count, cause without pressure it's much easier.
Break should start when 1st red drops, that's the 1st point, if it starts when he 1st strikes cue ball he could miss the pot which wouldn't be a break. Timer ends when cue ball stops after last black sunk to allow for it going in off or not.
one thing bothers me about this way of thinking 'nice hourly rate' ... wtf . this guy probably spent most of his time practicing and getting better and better ... if you devide earnings by the time invested you may be surprised as no one gives you overtime rates for your 17 hours training sessions ...
5:06 Does the guy say he got lucky? that's unfair. Nothing was about luck in all this. He actually tried two times to canon the reds and succeeded the second time, it was deliberate.
I have been watching Ronnie for a long time now and seen this 147 a couple of times and just noticed that there were quite a few young pretty girls at that match and I don't think they were there for the pool. Cheers to the best in my books.
Never get fed up of watching this... the word legend is vastly over used in today's world but his name should appear alongside the meaning of the word in the dictionary!!!
If you watched video timings are explained. Around end of May 2019 Guiness World Record was updated from 5 min. 20 sec. to 5 min. 8 sec. www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/fastest-147-break-in-snooker/ Ronnie's carreer highlights were updated the same way in May 2017 on World Snooker site: www.worldsnooker.com/players/
1) The break started when the Q BALL stops after Price last shot, NOT when Ronnie hit it ! 2) The break ends when Q BALL STOPS after last shot, NOT when the black disappeared in pocket! Still in my opinion its more like 5min13-14sec.... GUINES just rounded UP. 5min20sec (eazy to remember) !
If you’re curious,Here is an actual video of Ronnie’s iconic 147 in its original 50 frames per second, The frame rate it should be in. ua-cam.com/video/BhWckkzlAvs/v-deo.html
How is that woman in the end gonna scrutinise him for not going for a 147 because he "could've given it charity", get off your high horse! You can ask the people offering that money to give it to charity, yeah thought not...
Girl: "come over"
Ronnie: "can't I'm playing snooker"
Girl: "I'm home alone"
Ronnie:
Underrated comment🤣🤣
😂
"Now hes going to try and screw into the pink"
That’s some achievement making a 20 minute video from a break of 5 minutes.
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This was Priceless
Oh, no!! It had a Price, Ronnie's oponent LOL
@@1ball_1wall22 the joke.... price didn't play hence priceless....
@@herrvorragend1175 really clever!! Got me giggling!!
Peter Ebdon after 5 min 08 seconds , made the first red and its chalking the cue for the last 2 min
Peter Ebdon is shameless
Technically, the timer should stop when the cue ball stops moving. The break isn't over when the black disappears - only when the white is no longer at risk of going in-off or being fouled before it comes to rest.
Artistic billiads
Go two
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I thought it would once the cue ball stopped technically.
I would also start the timer at the beginning of Ronnie's turn. Add another 6 seconds.
Agree, and the break starts when 1st red drops.
Ronnie is the greatest snooker player ever!
A "timeless" masterpiece.
Best hair cut ronnies ever had too
John Cooper - Art of Social definitely
Cheers to that
Is hair has definitely gone wild these days I’ve noticed too but still better than mine and Price as we look the same bald 👨🦲
2004 World’s was better.
Really enjoyed this!
Informative, succinct & entertaining video on the world record breaking break, by the man who will probably go down as the greatest snooker player in history!
Great job mate.
😁👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks it took me quite some time to assemble this video as I was learning Final Cut Pro doing it.
I like what he said during the candid interview. He is very truthful to himself. I also admired the way he fight for what he thought injustices for lowering the maximum prize.
I think Guiness did correct the record to 5:08. Great video, thank you for sharing along with the interviews.
It was updated between 2019-01-24 and 2019-02-24 according to snapshots taken of www.guinnessworldrecords.com on the wayback machine. Ronnie's profIle was also updated at www.worldsnooker.com between 2017-05-05 and 2017-05-20 to 5min. 8 sec.( using the same tool).
The seconds he spent judging his first shot and the cue ball coming to rest at the end can't be discarded. The official time is closer to 5:17.
Great compilation of a great accomplishment
Well done
Nicely done! I wonder if the record could be changed without Ronnie’s approval.
How good can you be at something this is the perfect example
I love the way he plays
This, the miracle in medinah and the 2019 ashes win at headingley, my top 3
the funny thing is the crowd applauded the safety Price played, not realizing that was Ronnie's opening.
That applause was the other side of the arena for a different match that was happening at the time.
@@chriswilliamson7694 yeah, 2 matches were going on. I've seen it in another video on this.
The crowds and announcers always get me in videos like this the announcers try to predict what the players will do but they're usually wrong and the audience usually don't seem to know much about pool because they'll applaud what they think is a safety when it gives the other play the best opening of the match I've also seen them applaud an easy shot the player makes even tho their leave after the shot is horrible I always thought that had to be the biggest slap In the face after you make a mistake and hide yourself and the crowd cheers for it
@@richardhinton4232 like someone commented above the applause is usually for another table and not the shots you've mentioned also its snooker not pool
Excellent
Peter Ebdon’s father was a prison officer and with Ronnie Snr serving a Life sentence a match between Ronnie and Ebdon had a special significance in the shovel. I was in HMP Frankland with Ronnie’s dad when he made that 147 and he was buzzing.
The authorities really came down heavily on their whole family as his mum was prosecuted for not paying some VAT and got 2 1/2 years (I think) and Ronnie and his sister were only kids at the time with both parents in prison.
I can understand why he suffers from depression but nobody wants to go into the whole situation. Ronnie is a legend despite the psychological and emotional hurt he must have felt. I know he made his old man so proud!
I keep watching this....unreal. I noticed that ronnies stance is a lot squarer here than later
Ronnie is just too good he is gifted
fantastic !
I think the time should start from when the balls stop rolling from the previous players last shot: We include thinking time between shots, so we should include thinking time for the first shot.
I wasn't that impressed with 5 mins 20 seconds to be honest but I'm blown away that it was only 5 mins 8 seconds.
Price is one of the most famous snooker players in the world:)
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With all due respect to Mick Price, that's not really correct.
@@foddyfoddy thats a meme he create u dont get it😂
@@cocktail7426
I'm afraid you don't know what a meme is. What's your definition?
@@foddyfoddy don't be afraid, am not a monsters nor a devil, a meme is what makes u laugh. Price is known because of this match. Heis the opponent of ronnie here.
@@cocktail7426
I'm not afraid of anything, just shocked at your ignorance at not knowing what a meme is. It's "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme."
I suggest you go and study before using a word you don't understand.
He can read the next position quite early, and it is God gifted for him, he uses it very well.
Include when the cue ball stops after the last black. That should adds up to 5.20.
Logic makes sense
- start from when cue ball stopped before first red
- end when cue ball stopped after the last black.
Using this logic, there will be no airtime between breaks which is where i believe this logic of recording stands and the 5.20 was coming from.
Love the 70's porn music you put into the video...lol.
@@SunburntAZ i watched pool in the 70's and i dont remember that... But i wasn't that old in the 70's so what do i know.
Some of King Crimson "Larks Tongue in Aspic" was used in "Emmanuelle" a very popular mid-seventies X-rated movie. Does that make King Crimson porn music?
Fantastic video. I think timing should start when Ronnie hit the cue ball the first time.
job kazi
I disagree. Thinking and decision-making times are included for every other shot, so why not for the first one?
@@foddyfoddy Not for the thinking and decision making time prior to the breaking shot.
The timer starts here at 1:29 but I don't entirely agree with this. If you think about it carefully a break should start as soon as the player is at the table and ready to take his shot. This means that all the balls should be still after the last players shot and the last player and the referee should be in a position that is not interfering with the next players shot. At this time the player is then studying the table and deliberating over their next shot so they are now technically in play. If it takes a player 2 seconds or 4 minutes to decide how he is going to play his first shot this time should be included in the timer as he is now at the table and "in play". With this in mind the timer in this video should have started at 1:25 instead of 1:29. The timer also must run until the white stops moving after the black has been potted to allow for any potential fouls with the white like in offs, leaving the table or coming in contact with the players body while on the table to use a few examples. So all in all there should be approximately 5 seconds added to this timer so 5 minutes 13 seconds is a more legitimate time. A remarkable achievement by Ronnie nonetheless and even with this it's still 7 seconds faster than the previously recorded time.
I agree, and to kind of back this up there's the tournament with a stop clock which does as exactly as you described.
Beautiful Ronnie o sullivan
Yes, when I timed it, I thought a lot of time went by before he made the break. I questioned the time myself from the start, because the break seemed to be based on the time of the entire frame. But I only questioned it in my head. Were there any left handed shots in that break? I always get lost in the moment when I watch it.
No left-hand shots, no rest shots eighter. He started showing off his left hand abilities in the 1996 WSC against Alain Robidoux.
Great video of a young Ronnie. Absolutely unbelievable. It's the uploaders choice of course, but the music is annoying and unnecessary. My opinion only of course.
if it weren't for this Ronnie's 147 people would have forgotten Mick Price, he should be happy 🤪
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5:08 for the maximum and 3:45 for the century.
Timer should start at 1:24
On firee
In about 45 - 60 years, some bloke will break a 5 min 9 second 147 and this debate will be all the rage. I believe it will eventually be given to him, but sadly, some bloke will break that record in about 75 - 90 years from now. We usually have about 60 or 80 years between geniuses. Joe Davis and Ronnie, for example.
Perfeito.
I believe Ronnie sees the pocket the same way Stephen Curry sees the rim: bigger than everybody else.
Shouldnt the timer start when the cue ball is first struck by ronnies first pot
16:07 no one ever mentions how Ronnie meant to cannon the other 2 reds
And this was the most important cannon of this max break!!! What a snooker brain he has!!!
Mayur Ramdasi he missed the cannon. Those reds he cannoned were both already on into the corner. You’ve just been influenced by the audience clapping and commentators. And not looking at it objectively
Jimmy Johnson actually I was talking about the cannon which he played at 5:02 in video
John Cooper - Art of Social check 5:02.. that’s the shot I was talking about
@@mayurramdasi8402 why mention it on this thread then?
song name please, from 8:20, shazam isn’t helping... 🙏🏻
Shazam can't find it because it royalty free s stock tracks installed with Apple Final Cut Pro.
The worst thing about this break is that is it's us Ronnie fans that should have blown the whistle and realised it wasn't the original stated time of 5 min 20 sec!
Is Ebdon still chalking his cue?
When ronnie tells you to play fast in a game you have no discussion 😅
I can see your argument but the timer should start from the moment of the first shot and run untill the last ball stops moving
Timing should start from the moment he strikes the que ball for the first red to the last black ball disappears
Yes you are right, which makes the break 5 minutes and 8 seconds and not 5 20.
I love watching him young✊🏻
I mean when he made this record I was a 5yo ankle biter! 🤓
I'm not ready by when the time starts
It should be when the cue ball stops rolling, because the time he takes to line up the first red should count.
I agree.
Amazing and what not.
Ronnie rulzzz!
One thing good snooker does NOT need is a crappy music track drowning out the commentary.
I wonder if that lady, still has that red cloth, Ronnie osullivan gave her..??
imagine the guy who has the bit of chalk ronnie threw into crowd but never be able to prove it
That sure would be worth a fortune considering the following Ronnie has globally!
What's funny that he throws his chalk into the audience and then realizes he has no spare left. So someone returns it to him. :)
I want to know who got the chalk Ronnie threw into the crowd.
Alex higgins made a break of 118 in 2 minutes and four seconds in 1969.
There is no evidence for that, it's just his words. I made break of 147 in 3 minutes, but I forgot to record it.
@@rickharrison3522 Judging by what other players who witnessed alex on the practice table in his early says have said, I would think a break so fast unextraordinary in comparison to some of his other feats. Higgins was a vicious scoundrel at times, but he rarely lied. There is a film of him in 1971 making a century in 2 minutes and 55 seconds. It is utterly conceivable that a young higgins made a 118 in two minutes and four seconds. Besides, rex William's and john Pullman were present at the time and witnessed this extraordinary achievement.
@@stanleyharrison7031 Alex Higgins had less than 100 centuries at the end of his career, so I really doubt it. Alex Higgins is a legend, but he was also drunk all the time, so who knows what's the truth.
@@rickharrison3522 you buffoon. In the early days of snooker there were barely any tournaments per year and most of the games Alex played were exhibitions. When there are tournaments every two seconds like nowadays it is much easier to make lots of centuries. Remember, Alex began playing people like Spencer and Reardon in 68 when the game was virtually dead. I imagine if all the centuries he made in exhibitions and challenge matches were counted the reckoning would be in the several hundreds. Note that Higgins made his first maximum in 65 and had made 11 by 1979, the most of any player every up to that point.
@@stanleyharrison7031 He only made one official 147 lmao. Dude stop taking those numbers out of your ass, if it's not official it doesn't count, cause without pressure it's much easier.
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The break starts as soon as the white is struck and the timer stops when the final ball enters the pocket
Sounds fair enough.
147000 for a 147 now 5000 wtf 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Break should start when 1st red drops, that's the 1st point, if it starts when he 1st strikes cue ball he could miss the pot which wouldn't be a break. Timer ends when cue ball stops after last black sunk to allow for it going in off or not.
one thing bothers me about this way of thinking 'nice hourly rate' ... wtf . this guy probably spent most of his time practicing and getting better and better ... if you devide earnings by the time invested you may be surprised as no one gives you overtime rates for your 17 hours training sessions ...
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5:06 Does the guy say he got lucky? that's unfair. Nothing was about luck in all this. He actually tried two times to canon the reds and succeeded the second time, it was deliberate.
Actually if you listen again, after the canon he said he needs to be a bit lucky to get shape on the next red.
A beautiful thing to watch...but wtf with that music.
Yet the video is 20 minutes 29 seconds !
I have been watching Ronnie for a long time now and seen this 147 a couple of times and just noticed that there were quite a few young pretty girls at that match and I don't think they were there for the pool. Cheers to the best in my books.
you're right, they were there for the SNOOKER you dick!
So you know who has longest time record?
Who’s the oldest person in history and has never played snooker :U
Peter ebdon took 17 years to chalk his cue
Zeke Edwards Thanks for making my day. Hilarious!
Cliff Thorburn used to be famous for slow play.
Cliff Thorburn...watch him and you would swear you have paused the video...great player but goodness me, very slow.
Mad Lad
anyone knows that song playing in the into?
your break begins from the second the cueball comes to rest, if your opponent hasn't potted...
Something i thought id never would happen, watching Ronnie make a maximum break while listening to 70's German porn music hahaha
Is a 4 minute maximum possible?
32 balls in perfect order in 240 seconds, I dont think I will see that in my life. Average shot time of 7.5 seconds is a big asking.
In fact it's 36 pots in 240 seconds. The AST would have to be 6.67 seconds!
@@jeanletourneau9642 what makes it 32 balls potted?
The cue ball was stalking the reds it’s not fair on peter ebdon
Never get fed up of watching this... the word legend is vastly over used in today's world but his name should appear alongside the meaning of the word in the dictionary!!!
He said : "Needs to be a bit lucky, That's OK! Great chance!"
@Alexandre Cazenave
Ronnie O'Sullivan in snooker is like Garry Kasparov in chess - the same styles.
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more like 4 minutes from the second shot - 1st start of his run !
I thought it was 5mins 20s, im sure it was that n not 5m 08s.
If you watched video timings are explained. Around end of May 2019 Guiness World Record was updated from 5 min. 20 sec. to 5 min. 8 sec.
www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/fastest-147-break-in-snooker/
Ronnie's carreer highlights were updated the same way in May 2017 on World Snooker site:
www.worldsnooker.com/players/
Wrong
They figured in the commercial.
what is SHE the best at and what does SHE gives to charity...
Ronnie's the coolest guy . Now Ronnie's face is the same as Mr. Bean's 😂
It should be from when he strikes the cuevall
1) The break started when the Q BALL stops after Price last shot, NOT when Ronnie hit it !
2) The break ends when Q BALL STOPS after last shot, NOT when the black disappeared in pocket!
Still in my opinion its more like 5min13-14sec.... GUINES just rounded UP. 5min20sec (eazy to remember) !
yosif stoykov how can a break start until you have actually struck the white ball or potted a ball??
@@jasonwalls1466
He is right about the second part, it ends when the cueball stops.
But it cannot start until you strike the cueball.
Michael Trumph yeah absolutely but not the start lol
The previous record started the timer when the 1st cue ball was struck for the first red.. look it up
Lenny Tepsich yes we know lol
The Price went Down
At what point does Ronnie think 147?
From the first red with a good position on black he played for it, but it was a dream to come possibly true after the split of main pack.
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If you’re curious,Here is an actual video of Ronnie’s iconic 147 in its original 50 frames per second, The frame rate it should be in.
ua-cam.com/video/BhWckkzlAvs/v-deo.html
Well I supposed to do care when the timer starts
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What is going on here?!
If Ronnie had not checked around the table on 33 it would have been under 5 mins.
Literally takes me longer to wash my balls in the morning
Now is slowly!!!! Because he is oldman
Roni is the snooker father
Stopped when the music started. What the hell dude.
This is fast forward a bit!!
Oh please, get rid of that music...
How is that woman in the end gonna scrutinise him for not going for a 147 because he "could've given it charity", get off your high horse! You can ask the people offering that money to give it to charity, yeah thought not...
SHE,S A SNOB!!!!!!! COULDN'T POT ONE BALL TO SAVE HER("DADDY BOUGHT ME A POOOOOOORCHE ,WHEN I WAS 18_WOT WOT") POSH,,ARSE HOLE HOLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Indicating the date would be nice.
It's in the presentation at 0.00