According to *2bikes4adventure* , who's technical expertise is very reliable, the 12-speed has only two gears outside of that range currently offered by the 6-speed. So, its just one added that is very low, and another that is very high. Moreover, it seems the high one is so high it will hardly be used. The low one is more useful, and will be welcomed by many folks trying to get their Brompton up the steeper hills. So, as a six-speed owner, you have to ask yourself, is £435 really WORTH IT for just one extra useful gear ratio, even if, being fair, that ratio is the one you have always felt you needed?
The message from Brompton appears to be - don't ever buy the 4 speed P line. The only 12 speed upgrade kit I've seen in the US was $1,100! That raises the price of your P line to $4,050 before labor. But wait, you can buy a new 12 speed P-line for $3,250! The price difference on a new 4 speed vs 12 speed P-line is $300. This basically says "screw you" to P-line owners who bought before the 12 speed was available. 😠
Never understood the Up-grade was relatively cheap.The 12 Speed up=Grade is a real plus however..Ensure you choose the correct cabling for your H/Bar Type
Ayup Jules. That's an expensive upgrade (in my opinion) but then I find the six gears on my C Line Explore more than enough to cope with everything this local patch of Leicestershire has to offer. Other than the steepest of ups or downs I rarely use either end of the range sticking between what passes for 2nd and 5th. Is this purchase simply to satisfy a craving for the next new thing? Do you really need those 12 gears?? Am I asking too many daft questions??? Christ... I sound like my dad! Cheers👍🏼
Tesla did that with fugly cyber truck thing - the books opened at the launch party at $40,00 but by the time Musky got around to delivering them they'd gone up to $61,000. Given $60,000 to buy a Tesla cyber thing or a Brompton plus change, I'd take the Brompton, even with the extra increase 12 speed jobbie. Here Julian, what's going on? Crashing your mountain bike, now you've been tangling with tram tracks and come a cropper... Is your stunt double on holiday or something?
..it's also called the Maltesers Effect. A box of oh so suckable Maltesers was £4.00 today, They'll be more expensive next week, but won't be any bigger at £5.50 a box. 💩
Fuggedaboutit - go for the G, that extra 4" will make all the difference, and the tyres look to be wider than tram tracks.
Brompton seemed to have changed their mindset for the worse. Reputations can be lost easily…
According to *2bikes4adventure* , who's technical expertise is very reliable, the 12-speed has only two gears outside of that range currently offered by the 6-speed. So, its just one added that is very low, and another that is very high.
Moreover, it seems the high one is so high it will hardly be used. The low one is more useful, and will be welcomed by many folks trying to get their Brompton up the steeper hills.
So, as a six-speed owner, you have to ask yourself, is £435 really WORTH IT for just one extra useful gear ratio, even if, being fair, that ratio is the one you have always felt you needed?
Fair point but the P line has 4 gears not 6
Ooops... You're right. I missed that!
Doesn't take much thinking about, it just is not worth the new hiked price.
Pity
The message from Brompton appears to be - don't ever buy the 4 speed P line. The only 12 speed upgrade kit I've seen in the US was $1,100! That raises the price of your P line to $4,050 before labor. But wait, you can buy a new 12 speed P-line for $3,250!
The price difference on a new 4 speed vs 12 speed P-line is $300. This basically says "screw you" to P-line owners who bought before the 12 speed was available. 😠
Never understood the Up-grade was relatively cheap.The 12 Speed up=Grade is a real plus however..Ensure you choose the correct cabling for your H/Bar Type
Ayup Jules. That's an expensive upgrade (in my opinion) but then I find the six gears on my C Line Explore more than enough to cope with everything this local patch of Leicestershire has to offer. Other than the steepest of ups or downs I rarely use either end of the range sticking between what passes for 2nd and 5th. Is this purchase simply to satisfy a craving for the next new thing? Do you really need those 12 gears?? Am I asking too many daft questions??? Christ... I sound like my dad!
Cheers👍🏼
Hah! That's a bargain. I just saw the upgrade kit at a US shop listed for $1,100! That's ridiculous!
Tesla did that with fugly cyber truck thing - the books opened at the launch party at $40,00 but by the time Musky got around to delivering them they'd gone up to $61,000. Given $60,000 to buy a Tesla cyber thing or a Brompton plus change, I'd take the Brompton, even with the extra increase 12 speed jobbie.
Here Julian, what's going on? Crashing your mountain bike, now you've been tangling with tram tracks and come a cropper... Is your stunt double on holiday or something?
He died
..it's also called the Maltesers Effect. A box of oh so suckable Maltesers was £4.00 today, They'll be more expensive next week, but won't be any bigger at £5.50 a box. 💩