How WWE Failed Dolph Ziggler
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Dolph Ziggler has been a household name on WWE TV for over a decade. He was released by WWE and Triple H to everyone's shock in 2023. Join us as we break down the factors that contributed to Dolph Ziggler's inability to become a consistent main event star in WWE, despite having all the tools to succeed.
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I felt sorry for Dolph Ziggler. He had so much potential to be WWE Champion, but WWE dropped the ball.
He's a 2 time WWE World champion
@@toddpace4588hes talking about the WWE CHAMPIONSHIP
It's in his theme song
@@eatmakock3646They are the same thing, just with different names, he is talking about having a proper title reign and being a main eventer, winning the title just to lose it immediately after without accomplishing anything, it's just pointless.
@@Hikari12217 you can call the heavyweight championship Jesus holy water for all you care bruh, ts is not as symbolic as the wwe championship itself. Stop playing semantics
If Hunter's era started earlier he would have better push than Vince did
i totally agree and you can tell hunter wants dolph back in the business but he ain’t gonna comeback i just hated how vince would waste talent just bc they don’t look like triple h, john cena, and brock
Hunter didn't like Dolph because he went on record to say that he didn't see Dolph as a champion it was his idea for Dolph to lose the title
You mean only if Dolph leaved WWE way before in 2015 and worked in other promotion to improve himself and make return he would've been top guys like drew and Cody but Dolph leaved WWE in his 40s and now he is already in mid 40s he is not getting push even if he comes back
@@thegameking3931that is his wrong decision,he loves WWE,i think he ask cody and naomi an advice after they left WWE and i think he the one ask WWE to release him
In his mind same with Vince
One of WWE's biggest Ls in history imo. This guy really was the perfection!
Dolph winning the World Heavyweight Championship was the best night he ever had.
The “and you give and you give” speech will forever stick with me. I remember watching his IC runs back in 2014 days and realizing this was the same dude from the Spirit Squad.
Dolph is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. His selling, his mic skills. His look. I think he deserved better
Mr Kennedy was that guy
"The biggest fumble, the biggest fumble!"
When people argue that WWE didn't waste him, I bring up stuff like this. I bring up how everyone in the 2010s was walking on eggshells. The Shield guys got pushes that people like Kofi and Ziggler didn't get to enjoy until later points. What kind of push is getting handed the world title and losing it in the same night? That's not a push. Thats people backstage taking you for a joke! 😂
Agreed like ,McIntyre
@@damonlaw8218 Yep! I remember watching McIntyre lose to a blindfolded Santino Marella. The 2010s guys got one chance. The Shield got unlimited. Luckily, Drew has claimed his rightful spot as the chosen one.
ACTUALLY the FANS failed Dolph. He was a fantastic worker, and MADE everyone he faced look like a million bucks. Everyone got behind Daniel Bryan, but for DOLPH?!?! Nahhhh
imagine, johnny nitro and dolph as a tag team? two guys who should have been company leaders
It's crazy this never happened, seems like such a natural pairing
The creative team wasn't very creative in the 2010s.@radoyuras5772
It always bothered me that they never pushed him more, he sold for everyone and is such a workhorse. He deserved better
He knew how to make his opponents look good indeed in that process
if dolph won against brock it woulda been like eddie winning imagine the promos the amount of money people would have paid for that dolphs selling woulda made us want to root for him so bad while he keeps coming back against a beast like brock
You ain’t winning over Brock unless he wants to win. That’s how much power he had backstage.
Had to fix a typo so that’s why it says edited
@@XXTw1st3dXxexcept ziggler hardcore fans no one in their sane mind can imagine a upper midcard with build like ziggler would ever beat Lesnar clean.
Also comparing with Eddie is weird. Lesnar 2012 is way way stronger than Lesnar potrayed in 2003. The version of Lesnar Eddie beat was just someone who was newer guy within 2 years of career without mma background and it had Goldberg assist to beat Lesnar. The 2012 return version of Lesnar is beast incarnate and legit mma fighter so there was no realistic chance someone like Dolph can defeat him since WWE won't even let him defeat 2003 version young Lesnar too. Also Eddie was a old player and Lesnar was new player in that business the fact Eddie beating a guy who is newer to business was big deal in his career tells how beast the guy Lesnar was at that time he was already young veteran
@@XXTw1st3dXx cody won at Summerslam
Brock will not put you over unless he wants you to be put over.
Thia comment section is missing the point. Yes he was a reliable wrestler and he won many championships. But he should have been one of the top guys of the company, and should've had SEVERAL championship reigns during the 2010s. His look, in ring performance, promos, and matches were WWE championship and World Heavyweight Championship material. WWE had SEVERAL chances during Dolph's WWE run to pull the trigger on him to make him and keep him as a "main event" guy, but they didn't and it's sad and it's ashame. He is a main event worthy and a main event player. He deserved to as his song says, "Show the world," why he is "The Show Off" by showing off in main event championship matches!
Now that wwe is under triple H, may be they should call him back. Was always a fan of him. Wwe owes him a closure now considering the status of the intercontinental heavyweight champion.
I met Dolph once and I appreciated him.
what did he smell like?
I also appreciate him, but I only acknowledge the Tribal Chief.
@@adnanaliablethis has nothing to do with roman
20:14 Wait was Sheamus wiping his ass with Dolph's head???? Geez
Yeah, what the hell was that about!? 🤢
they had a kiss my arse feud match for some stupid reason
@@GenshinNoir the reason was vince McMahon i am 100 percent sure about that what a nut 😒
Should've been a multiple time world champion and good main event heel. After that survivor series they should've capitalized after dropping the ball the first time
Dolph Ziggler had so much potential to be long standing WWE Champion and the face of the company, but WWE repeatedly failed us and him. However, I strongly disliked his ring name and attired and he needed a partial repackage in this regard.
Xpecially after he was the lone survivor in that authority match 😔
Survivor Series 2014 was the perfect time to go full throttle with him
Yeah shame they let his hot momentum gone away
🤷♂️🤷♂️ He was my favourite wrestler but he was just there. Wwe just didn't see him as a big guy no matter what he did. I think he was used well, obviously just because he wasn't a 16 time wwe champion like John Cena doesn't mean he was missused.
Dolph Ziggler is like Christian cage he had to go somewhere else to be appreciated
It doesn't mean it wasn't properly used either, you answered yourself in your own comment, wwe refused to see him as a big superstar, hence they never gave him proper storyline, title reigns or run as a main eventer, therefore he was wasted.
@@Hikari12217 He was still not missused, he had lots of title reigns and definitely had some main event storylines. He's just mid at the end of the day. He's a good seller though.
I Disagree, Dolph had a helluva Career in the WWE.
Agreed he has a lot of accomplishments but the bookings were ass
DZ Knock Off Shawn Michaels
It's a shame you don't have more subs. You're video quality and production is some of the best I've ever seen
How was he supposed to be taken seriously as a top guy when he announced he would try out for a stand up career back when he was dating Amy Shumer? Cant blame WWE on that one
Anybody can try any career they want, if Ziggler wants to pursue stand-up comedy, that's his choice, and you're a jerk for clowning him on that.
@@AchrafKsara if you're the head of a company, would you want your top guy doing stand up? How would he be taken seriously? When he himself chose to be a joke
@@babyfaceaviator7862 It's his choice, you shouldn't clown on him for that, and if I was running the company, I'd be perfectly okay with it.
@@AchrafKsaratrue like if your wrestlers see comedy as a career, you'd support that
There is a reason your comment has less likes
Dolph Ziggler had it all. I remember watching him win the World Heavyweight Championship, never heard a pop like that ever in live television
The video is awesome.
The only thing bothered me is mentioning meltzer stars as it has some Credit nowdays.
I’m sorry everyone, but this whole video is wrong. WWE, as the most prolific pro wrestling promotion alive today, did not fail, misuse, or even waste Dolph Ziggler at all. Dolph Ziggler was just an extremely talented pro wrestler who somehow wasn’t viewed as world champion material by a former WWE Chairman in particular back when he was around. And to me, that doesn’t count as him being failed, misused, or even wasted by this entire company this entire company as a whole. It only counts as him being failed, misused, or even wasted by the ONE PERSON who used to be in charge of WWE back when he was still around.
The background music kills this
I feel so bad and so sorry for Dolph Ziggler
He had everything to be the face of WWE.
I don't know why WWE wasted him. The most underrated superstar ever
But all I have is hope, hope that one day he'll be back and will have one legit world title run and main event run
Dolph could have been amazing if he was pushed and booked correctly.
tbh the main problem with Dolph's career is that WWE is hoarding too much talent to not let other companies get them. IMO there are a lot of midcarters RN who could be main event level but aren't because WWE simply doesn't have space for them.
Been a fan of his since 2008 I'm just glad he didn't fade away from the spotlight after WWE instead he's doing the most right now in other promotions
damn, i hated him so much as a kid, so this is kinda appreciation of his heel work. Now i really feel bad that he doesn't had any main belts in recent years. Very talented wrestler, wish he will get him redemption in TNA and others promotions and then came back to finish his story in WWE as a modern HBK
Next big thing in TNA
Great video
I truly think that the wrestling entertainment are lucky they have a dolph ziggler..the duds commitment, athleticality and the way he can make any opponent he face and any match he fought worth way more than it actually is, is just insane.
Truly a SHOWSTOPPER
Dolph, always a fan..and i hope youre living your best lives everywhere you go..
Seeing him cashing in and hear the crowd pop... gives me goosebumps to this day. They had the second coming of Kurt Hennig and they ruined it.
One thing you can't take away from Nic Nemeth is that he overachieved for what he was given. He debut in a group where Kenny Dykstra was positioned to be the break-out star then he became the only person to survive and thrived after the group got buried by DX, while Kenny became a backstage producer.
He re-debut with one of the dumbest wrestling names ever and went on to become one of the most over stars by 2012.
Then he became one of WWE's perennial workhouses and a guy who could work anywhere on the card for over a decade.
That's a freaking legend in my books 👏🏾
My Favourite match with him was survivor series Team Cena Vs The Authority that was soo amazing all my family love him
I had no idea Ziggler was an amateur wrestler, let alone a good one. That both makes me respect him more and underscore how WWE under appreciated him.
Big L on WWE side, but never forget that Extreme Rules match with Seth for IC title. Crowd also played a role in Dolph's downfall
If I were WWE & I knew I had to release him I wouldn’t have given him to Ali on his last days but redid the angle in 2016 “win the IC Title or leave WWE.” Ziggler Vs. Gunther could you imagine
I liked dolph in the new era coming back to watching and seeing him actually a high tier wrestler made me feel warm like i remember when he was spritt squad member number 3 lol
What really impressed me was that dumpster fire that was the Elimination Chamber match and Dolph single handedly was telling everybody their spots like Shaun Michaels when Nash tore his quad.
He deserves a showcase mode in the WWE 2K games. Remember that ‘It should have been me’ feud with Kofi Kingston?
Hated the disrespect wwe gave him ,he truly n is a amazing talent also van Morrison was another great talent
He sells so well , I wonder how much wwe paid him if we notice what a talent he was they must know as well maybe he agreed to this with a nice paycheck to just be relevant n help guys go over
Glad he's In TNA Now shining
Hugh Jackman was one of the best WWE celebrity appearances
Ziggler was and always will be one of my favorite technical wrestlers. Such a shame they wasted a real talent!
Ziggler... veterans that still young that can do much in this business...maybe the move is correct...he already got success outside WWE...
Hopefully
Keep fighting! You're the real underdog, everyone's rooting for you and you'll shine brighter for sure before you retire! ❤️
It will always boggle me how they never fully pushed Dolph. Another victim of VKM and his terrible booking.
Man, I didn't know multiple world titles.Multiple main events.Multi-millions of dollars was wasting someone.That's crazy, you wrestling.Fans are the most fickle bunch out there
Yes we can be ,I get your point but giving him a 6months to year as champ
For F's sake.... He had if not the best atleast one of the best selling skills in the recent past... I would have taken that one alone to make a great redemption arc and atleast a run of 6-8 months.... I always argued that Dolph Ziggler & The Miz are very much under appreciated and needed atleast one more decent title run producing great matches even with a mannequin placed in the middle of the ring!!! They both were never treated right!!!
He could've done the same thing like Cody and Drew did and left WWE and proved it was a mistake to let him go and then come back. He seemed happy enough to get a check, so Ziggler deserves some of the blame for that.
Multi-time World heavyweight champion, Intercontinental, United States, Tag team reigns and a MITB winner. Ziggler has a good career in WWE. Not exactly a failure when he’s won gold for the decade and a half he was there
Now dolph is killing it in japan, mexico, tna, pretty everywhere now
Loved Dolph Ziggler Zack Ryder rivalry
They didn’t waste him he was there far too long just,as cornette says how can you miss him if he doesn’t go away,if he left a came back in that period he would have been more over
13:31 aj lee gets tossed around so much lol
I don't remember Heat being on Saturdays
2:07 SUNDAY Night Heat, Kevin
I hope soon he got WM moment like Cody did,he in TNA right now with his brother soon he gonna become their world champion and possibly tag team champion with his brother too
My favorite Ziggler moment was the team cena team athority survivor series match where he 3 v 1
For me WWE never misused, fumbled or failed Nemeth. Nemeth was always a reliable wrestler they can count on for anything. He hardly got injuried and was always a fixture of the upper Midcard into main event. He was always a challenger for any mid card title and a believable opponent for the world title.
He’s an amazing worker, will always give you the best match but character wise was always weak. He had flashes like during his feud with The Miz but that’s about it. He never bothered to change it up past being The Showoff and he stagnated becoming just a Shawn Michaels wannabe with his gear and the fact he was now using the Superkick as his finisher. Even now as Nic Nemeth he’s not doing anything different just being The Showoff but now on the Indies.
WWE used him well, sure they could have made him World champion more than a few times especially during his 2016 Smackdown Live run but it just wasn’t the right time because Mox just won the title recently and they already had plans to move the belt to Styles. There were just always other people who were more big than him in the title picture
I guess it was because of the porn star name but I always thought he was a Val Venis wannabe, hadn’t thought about Shawn Michaels but I guess I should have with the super kick. He went farther than Val so I don’t look at him as wasted.
aside from his momentum being unfairly taken after his concussion in 2013 and not doing anything with him after being the sole survivor for Cena in 2014, I do think Ziggler achieved all he could. The fans overrate him to an extent, you hit the nail on the head when it came to his character.
I gotta disagree, that is a horrible take. He deserved better than what he got period. There have countless amazing wrestlers and didn’t do them as bad as Nemeth. He had it all man
@@FireyDevilPepper Hey to each their own we all have our opinions. Nemeth is great and WWE didn’t treat him that well but he didn’t give them much to offer other than being a reliable guy who can have good matches. I don’t think he’s lighting up the work either now on the indies as The Wanted Man. I don’t think he had it all personally, he had a lot but he didn’t have a personality or ever gave people a reason to really care or invest. He’s a great worker who can sell well and that’s like his main thing and still is. I want good for him but still doesn’t give me a reason to give a shit about him or has shown me a reason to care other than him being a good wrestler. He isn’t like Danielson, Omega, Okada, Osprey those guys have it all
He was the best in ring worker WWE had for most of his time there. And they totally wasted it.
He’s one of my favorite all time it’s a shame he never got another huge win
He is doing great outside of the wwe he is the current aaa mega heavyweight champion and champion in other promotions
Team Jonh vs authority what a watch
he could have been the new HBK, He had all the qualities of Shawn Michaels
Where is Mustafa Ali?
Feels like after SS14 they should’ve had Ziggler, not Roman, go after Brock at Mania, and beat him.
They never wasted Dolph Ziggler. He was a workhorse superstar used for enhancement talent and the occasional utility guy. He was a grand slam champion was he not? And former multi time world champ so tell me how is that wasting him? Just because he wasn’t champ for 1365 or 500 days or he wasn’t 16x champ.
He’s an exceptional seller, made others look like a million dollars. His character work was smooth because he could play the heel or face whatever the story required. He had a few outstanding moments (SS 2014 when Sting debuted, getting punched by Hugh Jackman & of course cashing in with the MITB). He even dated Nikki Bella before Cena got in her knickers.
Nah dolph was fine. He maximised his potential and opportunity with the wwe. He asked for his release because he felt he went as far as he could with the company and that was a good judgment call on his part. Compared to guys like Jinder Mahal, recently Gable Stevenson & Mustafa Ali, I certainly wouldn’t say they wasted Dolph Ziggler at all. This is just another case of wrestling fans experiencing delusions of grandeur by unnecessarily rooting for the underdog, wanting them to get over when in reality, Dolph was over and he got over!!
It's almost like wwe didn't give him a world title and he constantly got concussions lmao
Dolph biggest moment to me was the survivor series ppv he made me a fan and he should of been pushed after that
Truly underrated
When I first saw DZ I first thought wow is he Kurt Hennings son. I think if they played it out that he was a relative of the Perfect one. He would of started on the top. Playing with the theme of to perfect to lose and his in ring skills would shine even more . Hell remember when big show first appeared in wcw. They pretended he was Andre the giants kid. So wouldn't be the first to pretend like that.
Nick would have been a star in any other company.
The title of greatest jobber ever is something he never deserved.
Honestly IMO the most simple way to fix dolph was to give him the WWE championship after survivor series 2014 and give him a semi long to long title run
They should've taken smaller paychecks if they wanted to be in WWE. Some people, it's not about the money, it's about the good story. He wasn't going to get that from Vince.
9:55 Very good example of dolph ziggler selling like a pro
At best he was always a IC contender or us champ but I could never seen him being world champ after seeing edge Batista and taker the only reason I remember him is cause of the spirit squad or being with Vicky G and trying to screw edge lol literally he was never a top star in my eyes
I strongly disagree
Pure underated superstar ever
Pure talent ✨
Roman could have been pushed later , this man was red hot from 2013-16 !
Best match is definitely his match at survivor series against the authority with his crazy clutch win
I would’ve booked him like the new hbk just more disrespectful with his own kliq
His survivor series win was 🔥🔥🔥
dolph vs the miz was still so amazing
Ok you sold me. He needs to come back and be guaranteed a one mord world title run 🤷🏾♂️
We love you ziggler, you're my childhood favourite superstar. 🙌❤️
I have hope that he will pull a Cody Rhode and come back as a top guy.
I would have him hold my flashlight 🔦 when i changed my spark plugs at night in my garage. That's how i would use Dolphin.
They were never all in on ziggler
Even in his second push in 2015 they never pulled the trigger
They had several opportunities to pull the trigger on him and make him top dog nd never did it. From MITB, soul survivor and taking on Mox for the WWE title. 😑
Or relinquishing the us title and then taking a break only to come back as number 30 at the rumble instead of taking a continued break and not ever mentioning the us title again and why he relinquished it. Could’ve been a Segway into getting him into the world title picture again.
He will come back again and will become world champ again with great pop
He even showed up on Z True Long Island Story
He's in the same boat as the Miz Kofi ,and R truth imo. Guys that fans love, but forever mid card.
Ehh more like they should caned him yeeeears ago. Sorry not sorry but I just wanna see the very best on my screen if Im gonna put that much time an interest on a product. Quite franly WWE need to do a bit moe cuts. When low to mid carders get huge pushes in other companies after WWE I really question that decision.