Anglo Indians kaise dress up karte kaise hai? Mu kholke bakwas Karne SE pahle, sochna to hai nahi, bakwas Kare Jana hai! One can criticise the acting, but the mounting of a fictionalised comic book, can be anything... What nonsense does he speak? The table looks like American diner, go to Calcutta, you'll find similar seating style in multiple places! Anyways,a crass guy who spews garbage in hair raising volume 😅
And actor like Tripti Dimri had to do 10-15mins outfit revealing cameo to become new national cursh of the nation . Despite proving her talent right from 2018… 😢 . This is sad reality
I am an Anglo Indian and mere Ghar main sab Hindi bolte hai. Hum Indian hai bhai 😊. And I was sure this movie would suck Archies the comics is not something we should adapt.
I agree with you as all my Anglo Indian friends know Hindi and other Indian languages .They dress up as traditional Indians in day to day life . They have parties and marriages where they wear westerns or Indian wear as per their choice.😂
I know some Anglo Indians who are into arranged marriages, practice Hindu rituals while also attending Church and their language, dress everything is Indian..
Tom Alter was Anglo-Indian by ethnicity..but he was always a proud, flawless Hindi and Urdu speaking Indian..it's sad that the makers didn't even take the sentiments of the Anglo-Indian community into account, just so they could perpetuate their stereotypes 😢
exactly....the very nenowned that comes into my mind when we speak of Anglo Indian is Tom Alter....what a beautiful blend of his family into Indian culture...and his son is carrying his legacy forward...he may not be f=very famous but he is a good storyteller....
Adaptations are good when made with integrity as Sanjay Leela Bhansali did with Romeo and Juliet and gave us Ram Leela , it was a pure Indian adaptation! Also if you talk about new to the industry and being under the pressure of having a legendary father in acting , don’t forget how Babil Khan made his debut in qala and blew our minds ! So yeah this could have been the easiest role offered to them yet they failed lol😅
Babil actually has great acting chops tho so thats why he could pull off something like Qala, whereas most of the actors/starkids in Archies have questionable acting skills, they are suitable for something like Archies only lmao💀😂😂
I think Zoya Akhtar was very angry with whole bollywood institution being attacked on the issue of talentless nepotism. So she just out of spite decided to make this movie. She wasnt being serious.
Even when he has responsibility as a reviewer and to provide content, hats off to him.. I wouldn't even watch shorts of this movie but we all know this going to hit youtube shorts as meme... 😂
I've been reading Archie's for almost 25 years now, and I can vote that Dilton Doiley is definitely not a Gay character. He's presented as an extra-studious, class-topper guy who spends most of his time inside his science lab instead of dating girls. But I've read in many comics that he went to dates and even asked for dating tips from Betty and Veronica when he liked any girl. The Cheryl Blossom series showed him attracted to Cheryl. I knew this movie would be sheer 'Gobar', but Zoya Akhtar should actually apologize to Archie's fans like us for ruining our teenage fantasies!! 😠
It's also the fault of people who call themselves fans of archies and still couldn't understand from the trailer what an absolute abomination this movie would be.
There is an unnecessary inclusion of lgbtq plots/characters in everything that involves Zoya Akhtar (atleast since the last 3 years). I don't know the agenda behind this but it is forcefully shoved into our faces.
When I think of 1960s India. I think of actresses like Sharmila tagore and Waheeda Rehman and actors like Dev Anand and Sunil Dutt . Trust me , they also potrayed elite characters but there characters weren't so anglicized like this. More of a mixture of classical western and Indian look of that era.
I agree to everything Shan mentioned I studied in an Anglo Indian School the only one at my time in Delhi and the representation is so screwed most of my Anglo Indian teachers spoke Hindi and had always lived in India wore sarees and ethnic wear and also Anglo Indian Students had no difference in the way they were brought up kuddos to you Shan for pointing that out 😊
I beg to differ. Even back in the 80s anglo indians behaved & dressed more like Brits. I had teachers and also class mates who were anglo indian. And since this is based in the early 60's the influence would have been more as even the elite Indians at that time spoke and behaved more like the Brits as most of them had been to schools & colleges in London.
@@thunderclap2842 Leo, a Tamil movie was also a remake of an American movie called "A History of Violence". Although it's not the same as the original, the basic storyline is the same. But the movie was made in an Indian context, the people were Indian, the story felt Indian and was actually a proper adaptation. What they did with The Archies is just dumb and lazy. As Shan said, if this movie didn't have the mega star kids this movie wouldn't even have been made and no OTT platform would have bought it and nobody would have promoted it to the scale as this movie was.
Anyone with a working knowledge of post-independent India would know that in 1964 (which is the year the movie is set in), India was going through a tough phase. Political instability was rife after the passing of Jawaharlal Nehru, the morale of the nation was low after the defeat in the Sino-Indian War, and the threat of an armed conflict with Pakistan was looming large. To top it all, India was badly hit by inflation, and food shortage-insofar that we were heavily dependent on American food aid, and there was immense pressure from international agencies to devalue the rupee. Of course, none of this is reflected in the movie. How can Riverdale be immune to all this, especially when most of the characters were small business owners?
I was an AVID reader of Archies & DILTON DOILEY WAS STRAIGHT!! With a female love interest and was most intelligent scientist inventing teenager. I was shocked watching this 😂
It almost feels like the powerful Bollywood families are conspiring to not let talented outsiders enter in this industries, so that the audience will have to rely on them for entertainment. They don't want the outsiders to get any limelight or popularity, because that will ruin their popularity and influence over the media and industry.
Irony is when Zoya and reema asked about casting Nepo kids then she replied what about other 4 kids we also have casted them but she forgot to mentioned that they are just side characters , she never casted on the basis of acting talent because they are 1000 times better than Suhana , agastya and Khushi. Bollywood never going to stop doing this they always have complex and fear of talented actors . Same when Aalia posted about Animal she mentioned like almost nothing about Tripti Dhimri who is actually better than her and deserve best actor for Qala for this year for OTT but they even bought it and gave it to Aalia for Darlings pathetic
@@zuhasajid900 🤣🤣 are bhai when the movie announced from that time most of people knows she is Animal , 5 months ago when first poster released she posted it and was also mentioned in actors list , even she was in trailer so she wasn't a surprise , and aalia bhatt mentioned about all actors after its released when all people were talking about Ranbir and Tripti ,so its all crap that Alia wanted to hide because she is a surprise .
Agastya has potential if he works on his hindi diction. Suhana and Khushi are giving Ananya Pandey major competition. All the plastic surgical procedures could not make Khooshi any better looking. Suhana is SRK with extra padded pushup bras and no acting skills.2 Non nepo boys has potential but they will not get the chances they deserve. So overall its all about sets and costumes.
@@ShanPrasherexactly! It felt that movie made extra efforts in being pretentious. Reminded me of your Director skits telling the cast,... "Aye seedhe hindi kyun bol raha hai,thoda tongue twist kar accent daal"😂😂😂.
@@komalyadav2123 mdm India m 22 saal aurat ma ban jati h 😂 plz 23 saal ki aurat ko kid bola band kro vese hamre srk uncle aaj bhi 30 year old character role play karte h bhale unki age 58 h 😊
@@ShanPrasherhonestly, Ruskin bond has written in his short stories that his Hindi came with an accent. These are stories written 40-50 years back. So around the same timeline as this movie. So this entire narrative that Anglo Indians speak good Hindi may be true for today… but early in the 60s, very few could speak proper Hindi
Again we are missing the important issue here. The issue isn't of rich vs Non- rich or elite vs Non- elites. If that would have been the case then the only difference would have been of luxury but the actual only issue is of cultural relativity.. Elites of all colonised societies aren't rooted in their own culture, for example while French, German elites would still be French, German, Indian elites are heavily westernised coconuts.. A poor German, middle class German and rich German can relate to each other. That's why Spanish people can relate with 'ELITE' because of cultural relativity not luxury lifestyle whereas in India the issue is not of luxury lifestyle but cultural relativity as we sae during films like 'CLASS' or 'ARCHIES'. All colonised societies, their elites are deracinated coconuts who aren't rooted in worldview of own civilization. Our elite speak in English, only worldview is of Anglosphere, hate their own culture because as Macaulay said 'Indian in blood only'
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@@summiitt I don't think so that it's upto us coz premiere is not for common people. Look at the amount of actors showing up for this film. I think we do support newcomers otherwise those from outside the industry wouldn't have made it big.
Trust me. You will be the only guy left who is speaking the truth abt this film. They have purchased every single blue tick account on twitter and even Film companion type channels are uploading fake reviews😂😂. I did not believe in corporate booking allegation against SRK earlier at all, but seeing how they are changing audience's perception of this film makes me doubt him now
Americans will lose respect when they see Archies in India, NOT include them in their club. Fools. Dont we have our own homegrown comics , stories and narratives. Ye second America banne ke chakkar me na ghar ke hain na ghaat ke.
Anglo- Indians in actual life are more assimilated and integrated into Indian culture.. Whereas in Zoya's film, these are cut off people from mainstream. People who are westernised need not necessarily be Anglo- Indians.
And the anglos who have married Indians are regretting it everyday and now we go back to marrying our own caste. Anglo Indian have been brought up to be free and develop our own character but after inter caste marriages they have finally understood that it’s a mistake. Every Anglo Indian has moved out of India and now only 10% are stuck in India.
As an "English AND Hindi speaking" Mumbaikar from the suburbs, 90s kid, who has from his childhood only read Archies, Tintin and Asterix comics. who's every travel in train started with my mom buying me an Archies doube digest. And still has a stacks of those comic books, I was excited. But even the trailer made me cringe. and this review was the last nail - gonna skip it.
Best archies adaptation of bollywood was jo jeeta wohi sikandar. Even tappu sena is better adaptation of arhies then this nepo babies multiverse of madness.
I sometimes feel, how India has Hindi, Bengali, Tamil, Telegu film industry, there should be a parallel English film industry, Kam se Kam aise do naau main paer rakhkhey chalne wale movies nahi banengey
Thanks Shan..as always bang on point. Its stunning that they are living in a "creative" universe..as in the makers Zoya ..who btw is always copying the west...because as we all know the KJos and Zoyas of the world live in a fantasy western world as if their audience is all NRIs that left India 40 years ago. Adaptation is not an issue and or the complete random fantasy..but they seem to be suspended in any reality ....just like how Karan Johar showed Raichand House (in Scotland) as a palace 4 mins away from Chandni Chowk... or SOTU where this university existed nowhere on the planet. Its so crazy that they could have made this more "homely" ..instead they keep copying American attributes as if all kids in India are just like that...instead of showing authentic India where sure it could be similar but lets make it more in tuned with the country vs copying another country.. etc etc which is so random.... like what school is this? where is this school even exist... there is NOT even a school like this in United States ...nobody acts like this or talks like this. Its funny they want to show "modern" kids in India..but even modern kids dont act like this ...its a whole parallel universe they are showing that exists nowhere and im sure some ppl are like this ..I know South Bombay, South Delhi, South Calcutta ...they all the same but kids are not like this ...some are but MOST are NOT. I have many friends from India who are Anglo Saxan and or Anglo Indian like you mentioned...and we all talk in Hindi fluently and so do they... having accent is not a problem ...but creating something this crap is just so weird... like they want to be white ... you can be "modern" and speak english and have accent and still speak hindi and you could still show a normal school and what not .. its like they (Zoya, KJO) live vicariously in UK and or US and are so influenced by it that they dont know how to make something at home ..unless they make again a random out of the world fantasy of raichand house and or SOTU...these "creators" life in a complete parallel universe. I havent seen a worse set of young actors as this bunch..sure they are young and maybe some of them will get better with time..but omg what a random casting and what complete nonsense of an adaptation which is not Indian at all with any of its arc. But this is what OTT has become..before there was hope for new things..now these big media houses have infiltrated OTT platforms basically to show the same crap we see in bollywood with the same nepo kids and its not going to end. Netflix, Amz prime etc etc sold their soul to these big media houses and so called directors and now we are back to square one with the same bad content we see in bollywood movies and Indian cinema overall. Sad.
@Subtr0nic I agree with your entire comment but I don't agree with that thing which you said that entire Indian cinema I don't think so that overall Indian cinema comes into the Bollywood category because if Bollywood produce shitt content it doesn't include the entire Indian cinema because there are also lot of other regional industries in India which has the potential and are producing good content and they are not Bollywood because Bollywood is just the mainstream industry of India but not the entire Indian cinema and also I feel like other Indian industries don't have identity crisis like Bollywood have that they again and again forget that where they belong to and always fantasize something else only ...
Remember Haider the adaptation of Hamlet. It was very well made and made justice with Indian culture but this Archies is so cringe even my Anglo Indian friends made fun of the trailer back then leave alone watching the film.
The only film family till to produce consistent talent are kapoors ( prithviraj kapoor's family each one of them were able to establish themselves as the best of their contemporaries they are one clan which has acting in their blood
Zoya and Farhan Akhtar have always been sourcing plot points, character backstories, dialogue and body language from hollywood films. It looked cool in Dil Chahta Hai but the. novelty wore off quickly. Be it the Don films or ZMNDB or the boat movie, I get a Déjà vu of having already watched all this on HBO and Star Movies.
It is an irony of our times that sad portfolio reels like these make it to the front of our viewing platforms and promoted to high heavens yet good, at least more honestly written and made films like Jaanejaan, Kathal, Ghoomer, Pippa (and many more, these were just my favs from the year) don't get even a decent exposure.
They should not call this an adaption, better call this a remake. Almost everything is as Americanized as the original comic itself, just the retro aesthetic has been changed to more cottagecore. They've mixed the OG American names and "Archies" iconic stuff like Pop's diner so they're true to the comics, so why bring in the "Anglo-Indian" angle?? Just make a remake. Either that or a completely Indianized version. That way you won't trigger the comic's fandom nor the Anglo Indian depiction nor the actor's privileged backgrounds or anything that should be a problem.
yo.. everything said... i have to disagree with you on one key aspect - archies was never about solving mysteries - they might have spin offs where they did solve mysteries. but the comics are just good old fashioned American teenager wholesomeness... so its ok for the movie not have a core story. so i think thats a bit harsh
Log bollywood ko itna seriously kyu le rhe h sabko pata h bollywood is just mediocre industry 😒 mujhe gussa tab ata h jab cheesy industry ko seriously liya jata h bollywood is just time pass industry
Adaption is totally fine but at least they should have adopt in an Indian culture without changing the source material and plot , for example Agastya Nanda's character is Adarsh which is based on Archies character just like Pavitr Prahabakar is based on Peter Parker and other actors as Indian characters based on the og characters in a totally Indian environment. Also the actors have tried very hard to look white and westerner to appease them and that's the main reason many people didn't liked or are not interested in the movie.
Just go ahead and watch it without thinking about these reviews which are done by people who have already decided that they are going to hate the movie and almost everyone with a slightly privileged family. Reviews are really spoiling our movie experience nowadays.
i think its become a fad to show atleast one gay character ..i have no issues with that..but its something these platforms are doing more and more on purpose to act as if the company is "inclusive" and thats ok but sometimes it seems forced for no reason and not organic but not a big deal ...hopefully the world becomes more tolerant
Hahahhahahhahahahha I was waiting for this and it came out even before I had expected. Ab toh movie dekhna hi padega just to celebrate apna Shantanu 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Yesssssss finally. Both Farhan and Zoya do make the elite u cannot sit with us vibe movies. But Farhan always acts in underdog man of the earth type romrs😜
Truely agree with elitism element always existing in most Zoya Akhtar movies whether it was Zindagi Na milegi dobara or dil dhadakne do. They were always cruising Europe or in yachts and even they had a personal plane! Maybe the exception was Gully Boy.
To be very honest, people should not totally hate them because they are from film families, who wouldn't want to utilise if they get such a huge platform deserving or not... I saw Archies and everyone for their first film did a decent job I liked everyone the lead Agastya and Khushi also did a good job, the only cringe for me throughout the film was Suhana, I mean her expressions, her voice the way she delivered, everything was for some reason cringey... Only for her, I wanna say, if she isn't SRKs daughter, no one could have offered anything with that acting she did.
Don't worry they can only get away with few of this shit shows and their careers won't take off after that... The only sad thing will be this few shit shows could be seen as opportunity for a few lucky talented ones where this was just handed to this people
When Raj kapoor saab became an actor no one said nepotisim because he is an amazing actor like hi father Pritviraj saab ..we say nepotisim when the spoil people become stars by their parent with out any talent skills or even screen presents .by the way nepotisim starts in bollywood in 1960 till now.all the love from Iraq
Thats why I call you my Bhai.. I absolutely felt the same way about the movie.. Never seen a movie try so hard to be cool and end up looking wannabe. and Suhana was sooooo cringely cliched
Hamme sirf Raj aur Diamond comics padhi hai. Agar ye Pinky ya Billu par bhi bana dete to kuchh relate kar paate. Archies ko maine sirf newspaper ke corner me dekha hai.
To play the devil's advocate, I think this movie will appeal a lot more to Western audiences. International Netflix accounts are promoting it as well and the response has been mostly positive there.
I actually started watching this film thinking it'll be a mystery or thriller or something on those lines. That was my impression of Archies. But what was that story? Like really? I'll watch TAPPU SENA any day over whatever you call this.
khushi kapoor, dot and vendang shows potential. Rest can be flushed. Khushi was surprising and endearing, there was an unassuming honesty to her. She has potential to be the Anne Hathaway of Bollywood! Suhana was cringe cringe cringe and should not be cast in a high school play much less a movie. But who will tell this new Ananya on the block 🤢🤮
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Shaan Bhai aur koi nahi maila kya ?
Average logo ko mat bulya kar vese tu bhi average hi h
we as an audience need to support good outsider actors with good movies with no hype under small budget
Anglo Indians kaise dress up karte kaise hai? Mu kholke bakwas Karne SE pahle, sochna to hai nahi, bakwas Kare Jana hai!
One can criticise the acting, but the mounting of a fictionalised comic book, can be anything...
What nonsense does he speak? The table looks like American diner, go to Calcutta, you'll find similar seating style in multiple places!
Anyways,a crass guy who spews garbage in hair raising volume 😅
@@clear9234Teri Bua nahi thi available us din
And actor like Tripti Dimri had to do 10-15mins outfit revealing cameo to become new national cursh of the nation . Despite proving her talent right from 2018… 😢 . This is sad reality
Exactly my heart broke… real talents like tripti and wamiqa gabbi are ignored until and unless they do nude scenes.
@@nayanaminu bollywood is garbage real talent hone se kuch nhi hota sab mediocrity m ji rhe h
Ngl but Tripti's limited screen time overpowered Rashmika.
I haven’t watched the movie but she’s such a good actress, I feel bad that she’s reduced to her sexuality. In bulbul she was fab ❤
Bhai 👌
I am an Anglo Indian and mere Ghar main sab Hindi bolte hai. Hum Indian hai bhai 😊. And I was sure this movie would suck Archies the comics is not something we should adapt.
THIS, I am talking about EXACTLY THIS! Thank you brother.
I agree with you as all my Anglo Indian friends know Hindi and other Indian languages .They dress up as traditional Indians in day to day life . They have parties and marriages where they wear westerns or Indian wear as per their choice.😂
I know some Anglo Indians who are into arranged marriages, practice Hindu rituals while also attending Church and their language, dress everything is Indian..
Are you a white hindu ?
@@ShanPrasher ro kyu rha tu? jaruri hai agr india mai bna hai toh hindi mai vartalap kre? tu bhi toh india mai paida ho kr Hinglish hi bol rha
Tom Alter was Anglo-Indian by ethnicity..but he was always a proud, flawless Hindi and Urdu speaking Indian..it's sad that the makers didn't even take the sentiments of the Anglo-Indian community into account, just so they could perpetuate their stereotypes 😢
UA-cam channel hai Tom alter sir k bete hai ya grand child hai unka
Beta hai Jamie alter
exactly....the very nenowned that comes into my mind when we speak of Anglo Indian is Tom Alter....what a beautiful blend of his family into Indian culture...and his son is carrying his legacy forward...he may not be f=very famous but he is a good storyteller....
Tom alter was American, not Anglo Indian.
Tom Alter was an American so no he was not anglo, get your facts right
Adaptations are good when made with integrity as Sanjay Leela Bhansali did with Romeo and Juliet and gave us Ram Leela , it was a pure Indian adaptation! Also if you talk about new to the industry and being under the pressure of having a legendary father in acting , don’t forget how Babil Khan made his debut in qala and blew our minds ! So yeah this could have been the easiest role offered to them yet they failed lol😅
Beautiful ❤️
And Vishal Bhardwaj too with his brilliant Shakespeare adaptation trilogy of Haider, Maqbool and Omkara💕
Babil actually has great acting chops tho so thats why he could pull off something like Qala, whereas most of the actors/starkids in Archies have questionable acting skills, they are suitable for something like Archies only lmao💀😂😂
@@BELIEVER78989 people also think bollywood is worst industry in the world ab mujhe nhi pata bollywood kitna gahtiya h 😂
@@BELIEVER78989 yaha to rahul gandhi ko bacha bola jata h😂 ye to fir bhi 20s m h
I think Zoya Akhtar was very angry with whole bollywood institution being attacked on the issue of talentless nepotism. So she just out of spite decided to make this movie. She wasnt being serious.
Bollywood is also very mediocre industry
@@raja-jl9os agreed
@@maverickindia117 admin like cheesy 90s jawan types movies
@@raja-jl9osI understand that in the name of art u like four more short, thank you for coming 😜
@@abhay318 tu pagal h kya
It's better watching your review than torturing ourselves with the original movie.
Don't watch video
@@slayer_142? did you even understand what hi said?
@@divyaa4459 admin think animal is best movie 🤣
Pathetic depiction of Anglo Indians. All they did is photoshopped indians to 30 shades gorra skin. Their accent is still indian
@@slayer_142better than Archies
How do you convince yourself for watching something like this??😂😂
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Even when he has responsibility as a reviewer and to provide content, hats off to him..
I wouldn't even watch shorts of this movie but we all know this going to hit youtube shorts as meme... 😂
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You Don't. Period
Exactly I need that protocol. Would help live me life!
I've been reading Archie's for almost 25 years now, and I can vote that Dilton Doiley is definitely not a Gay character. He's presented as an extra-studious, class-topper guy who spends most of his time inside his science lab instead of dating girls. But I've read in many comics that he went to dates and even asked for dating tips from Betty and Veronica when he liked any girl. The Cheryl Blossom series showed him attracted to Cheryl.
I knew this movie would be sheer 'Gobar', but Zoya Akhtar should actually apologize to Archie's fans like us for ruining our teenage fantasies!! 😠
the "creators" of the show never read the comics. thanks for sharing the ACTUAL details ...thank you.
It's also the fault of people who call themselves fans of archies and still couldn't understand from the trailer what an absolute abomination this movie would be.
There is an unnecessary inclusion of lgbtq plots/characters in everything that involves Zoya Akhtar (atleast since the last 3 years). I don't know the agenda behind this but it is forcefully shoved into our faces.
Gobar 😂😂😂😂 is better than this rats diarrhoea 😂😂❤
Yes, thanks for saying this
I think Jo Jeeta Wahi Sikander was a better indian adaptation of Archies :)
It was inspired from a great Hollywood Movie but it does seem like Archies.
best movie ever made. Amen
@@har1292whats the name?
@@navj9850 Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar was inspired by the 1979 American film Breaking Away.
@@pujawadhwa4764 oh tnx
When I think of 1960s India. I think of actresses like Sharmila tagore and Waheeda Rehman and actors like Dev Anand and Sunil Dutt . Trust me , they also potrayed elite characters but there characters weren't so anglicized like this. More of a mixture of classical western and Indian look of that era.
Bollywood hamesa se cheesy aur over the top tha😂
I agree to everything Shan mentioned I studied in an Anglo Indian School the only one at my time in Delhi and the representation is so screwed most of my Anglo Indian teachers spoke Hindi and had always lived in India wore sarees and ethnic wear and also Anglo Indian Students had no difference in the way they were brought up kuddos to you Shan for pointing that out 😊
I beg to differ. Even back in the 80s anglo indians behaved & dressed more like Brits. I had teachers and also class mates who were anglo indian. And since this is based in the early 60's the influence would have been more as even the elite Indians at that time spoke and behaved more like the Brits as most of them had been to schools & colleges in London.
It's just a movie. Take it as an entertainment. Atleast it's not a toxic movie like animal which public seems to love these days.
Netflix: How "Western" do you want this movie to be?
Zoya Akhtar: Yes.
Dude archies is an American comic so if they show an Indian town or something it would lose its credibility
@@thunderclap2842 Leo, a Tamil movie was also a remake of an American movie called "A History of Violence". Although it's not the same as the original, the basic storyline is the same. But the movie was made in an Indian context, the people were Indian, the story felt Indian and was actually a proper adaptation. What they did with The Archies is just dumb and lazy. As Shan said, if this movie didn't have the mega star kids this movie wouldn't even have been made and no OTT platform would have bought it and nobody would have promoted it to the scale as this movie was.
@@tarangnadgeer3570 bollywood and south both make garbage plz don't hate bollywood
@@thunderclap2842dude so in the first sense why did she say we'll make an Indian adaptation. If you clearly know what adaptation is you'll understand
This adaptation was was actually conceptualized and planned by Netflix team and Zoya was brought in much later to direct it
I still remember Rockford, an english speaking Indian movie, that was based on school students, thousand times better than films like Archies.
Made by nagesh kukunoor, songs by kk
True tht ❤
Yaaron, dosti barhi hi haseen hai.....
Anyone with a working knowledge of post-independent India would know that in 1964 (which is the year the movie is set in), India was going through a tough phase. Political instability was rife after the passing of Jawaharlal Nehru, the morale of the nation was low after the defeat in the Sino-Indian War, and the threat of an armed conflict with Pakistan was looming large. To top it all, India was badly hit by inflation, and food shortage-insofar that we were heavily dependent on American food aid, and there was immense pressure from international agencies to devalue the rupee. Of course, none of this is reflected in the movie. How can Riverdale be immune to all this, especially when most of the characters were small business owners?
I was an AVID reader of Archies & DILTON DOILEY WAS STRAIGHT!! With a female love interest and was most intelligent scientist inventing teenager. I was shocked watching this 😂
I too have read for decades...what and why did they do this?
@@priyaonthego6113pandering, like they do in some western series
exactly. random characters ko destroy Karo through pandering to certain sections and cry discrimination when someone brings it up
It almost feels like the powerful Bollywood families are conspiring to not let talented outsiders enter in this industries, so that the audience will have to rely on them for entertainment. They don't want the outsiders to get any limelight or popularity, because that will ruin their popularity and influence over the media and industry.
Let's just watch foreign films or local.
That's the difference between Hollywood and Bollywood.
Irony is when Zoya and reema asked about casting Nepo kids then she replied what about other 4 kids we also have casted them but she forgot to mentioned that they are just side characters , she never casted on the basis of acting talent because they are 1000 times better than Suhana , agastya and Khushi. Bollywood never going to stop doing this they always have complex and fear of talented actors . Same when Aalia posted about Animal she mentioned like almost nothing about Tripti Dhimri who is actually better than her and deserve best actor for Qala for this year for OTT but they even bought it and gave it to Aalia for Darlings pathetic
Alia didn't mentioned tripti probably because it was suppose to be a suprise tripti was to be hidden from the promotion
@@zuhasajid900 🤣🤣 are bhai when the movie announced from that time most of people knows she is Animal , 5 months ago when first poster released she posted it and was also mentioned in actors list , even she was in trailer so she wasn't a surprise , and aalia bhatt mentioned about all actors after its released when all people were talking about Ranbir and Tripti ,so its all crap that Alia wanted to hide because she is a surprise .
@@zuhasajid900 23 year old women (shuhana khan) is kid?
@@prince4812 Bollywood is garbage time pass industry h zyda kuch invent nhi kiya h bollywood ne
She did mentioned lol
No wonder it was released on an Ott platform rather than in theatres 😊😊
Bollywood is garbage?
With run
Theatre release would have exploded in their faces!
Scamming ott platforms. People like Anurag Kashyap did in 2018 they are doing it now. 😊
Agastya has potential if he works on his hindi diction. Suhana and Khushi are giving Ananya Pandey major competition. All the plastic surgical procedures could not make Khooshi any better looking. Suhana is SRK with extra padded pushup bras and no acting skills.2 Non nepo boys has potential but they will not get the chances they deserve. So overall its all about sets and costumes.
I think Agastya did a good job
These archies kids are more anglo Indian than the actual anglo Indian actor Tom.
Ruskin Bond as well.
@@ShanPrasherexactly! It felt that movie made extra efforts in being pretentious. Reminded me of your Director skits telling the cast,... "Aye seedhe hindi kyun bol raha hai,thoda tongue twist kar accent daal"😂😂😂.
@@ShanPrasherwe go to the movies only after ur review so thanks for saving r time and money
@@komalyadav2123 mdm India m 22 saal aurat ma ban jati h 😂 plz 23 saal ki aurat ko kid bola band kro
vese hamre srk uncle aaj bhi 30 year old character role play karte h bhale unki age 58 h 😊
@@ShanPrasherhonestly, Ruskin bond has written in his short stories that his Hindi came with an accent. These are stories written 40-50 years back. So around the same timeline as this movie. So this entire narrative that Anglo Indians speak good Hindi may be true for today… but early in the 60s, very few could speak proper Hindi
Alternative title: Talentless Nepokids employment scheme 😂😂by gods of nepotism
Kids bola band karo madchd
Again we are missing the important issue here.
The issue isn't of rich vs Non- rich or elite vs Non- elites. If that would have been the case then the only difference would have been of luxury but the actual only issue is of cultural relativity.. Elites of all colonised societies aren't rooted in their own culture, for example while French, German elites would still be French, German, Indian elites are heavily westernised coconuts.. A poor German, middle class German and rich German can relate to each other.
That's why Spanish people can relate with 'ELITE' because of cultural relativity not luxury lifestyle whereas in India the issue is not of luxury lifestyle but cultural relativity as we sae during films like 'CLASS' or 'ARCHIES'.
All colonised societies, their elites are deracinated coconuts who aren't rooted in worldview of own civilization. Our elite speak in English, only worldview is of Anglosphere, hate their own culture because as Macaulay said 'Indian in blood only'
Very well said
I don't relate with south maslaa because it's so cheesy and so over the top
@@thelazyqueen5117 do you like masala movies?
most of the masala movies are not made to relate with audience. @@slayer_142
Class was waaaay better than archies
Also were there any burgers, milkshakes and short skirts in INDIA during the 1960's? Even in American 1960's women wore long knee-length skirts.
Mdm aaj bhi mostly salvaar kamiz pahnte h college m
hamare feminist director vanga ne bhi apni movie m priti ko mostly slavar m dikhya h 😂
Bollywood vale to 70s se lead aurat ko bikni m dikha rahe h 😢 mumtaj, sharmila tagore, zinat sab ne pahna h bikni
First one here.... Would love to say I'm a huge fan of yours. I've been religiously watching your content since the pandemic. Thank you thank you thank you so much for your honest reviews ❤️🙏❤️
So true that if a struggler would have been in this film, no-one would come to see them at the premiere.
It's up to us as audience to change that, we blame but at the same time we wont support new comers as well.
@@summiitt I don't think so that it's upto us coz premiere is not for common people. Look at the amount of actors showing up for this film. I think we do support newcomers otherwise those from outside the industry wouldn't have made it big.
@@shriyaj30 not for lead actors , this movie no one would watch if there weren’t star kids that’s a fact .
@@summiitt ya that's true
Correct!
we as an audience need to support good outsider actors with good movies with no hype under small budget
Trust me. You will be the only guy left who is speaking the truth abt this film. They have purchased every single blue tick account on twitter and even Film companion type channels are uploading fake reviews😂😂. I did not believe in corporate booking allegation against SRK earlier at all, but seeing how they are changing audience's perception of this film makes me doubt him now
Glad to see you give an honest review. Most bootlickers would be doing something else.
Americans will lose respect when they see Archies in India, NOT include them in their club. Fools. Dont we have our own homegrown comics , stories and narratives. Ye second America banne ke chakkar me na ghar ke hain na ghaat ke.
As if Americans are any better lmao, they made Riverdale remember💀😂😂😂😂
Colonial consciousness
@@ajatshatru33BCE some western critics like garbage rrr 😂
Anglo- Indians in actual life are more assimilated and integrated into Indian culture..
Whereas in Zoya's film, these are cut off people from mainstream.
People who are westernised need not necessarily be Anglo- Indians.
I’m an Anglo Indian. And no we don’t wear Indian clothes we go to church and not temple. Your facts are incorrect
And the anglos who have married Indians are regretting it everyday and now we go back to marrying our own caste. Anglo Indian have been brought up to be free and develop our own character but after inter caste marriages they have finally understood that it’s a mistake. Every Anglo Indian has moved out of India and now only 10% are stuck in India.
You've confused East Indians with Anglo Indians. They are very different from each other!
@@petreaseedwards819who’s stopping them? Get tf out of our country b****h
@@Dhhdoejsbsjnjjnnuttarkhand peeps❤
As an "English AND Hindi speaking" Mumbaikar from the suburbs, 90s kid, who has from his childhood only read Archies, Tintin and Asterix comics.
who's every travel in train started with my mom buying me an Archies doube digest. And still has a stacks of those comic books, I was excited.
But even the trailer made me cringe. and this review was the last nail - gonna skip it.
90s m tum peda hui thi 🤣 80s kids are real 90s kida
Bhai don’t. Can you watch it without relating it to the comics? If so give it a watch and you might like it
We got Class which mostly had new comers and it was a much better show even story wise
True!!
@@ashmihaanwar4737 he hate class watch his review
agreed!!!!
I really love the way you express your thoughts without any fear!
Amazing work Shan! Keep it up! 🤗
And Thank you for the honest reviews!😊
@@LivinginUSABoyLaura lele
The same maker of dil dhadakne do, ZNMD, gully boy has made this
I lost hope now
Only hopes on Dunki
@@BELIEVER78989 bollywood is dumb industry don't take seriously
@@BELIEVER78989 animal ka 14da shan parshar
Best star kid is was and will be Ranbir Kapoor. Very natural actor .
And kareena kapoor
Good to hear you best explanation 💜
As an anglo indian myself,these characters dont represent us
It's fiction. It's really not supposed to ...
congrats shantanu sir for your newborn daughter
god bless her
Wow!!This is absolutely fantastic to watch irrespective of this review, people are appreciating this.
Best archies adaptation of bollywood was jo jeeta wohi sikandar.
Even tappu sena is better adaptation of arhies then this nepo babies multiverse of madness.
Bollywood is chutiya
Chillar party was also better
kudos to shan to actually represent and comment about the anglo Indian community in India
I sometimes feel, how India has Hindi, Bengali, Tamil, Telegu film industry, there should be a parallel English film industry, Kam se Kam aise do naau main paer rakhkhey chalne wale movies nahi banengey
Thanks Shan..as always bang on point. Its stunning that they are living in a "creative" universe..as in the makers Zoya ..who btw is always copying the west...because as we all know the KJos and Zoyas of the world live in a fantasy western world as if their audience is all NRIs that left India 40 years ago.
Adaptation is not an issue and or the complete random fantasy..but they seem to be suspended in any reality ....just like how Karan Johar showed Raichand House (in Scotland) as a palace 4 mins away from Chandni Chowk... or SOTU where this university existed nowhere on the planet. Its so crazy that they could have made this more "homely" ..instead they keep copying American attributes as if all kids in India are just like that...instead of showing authentic India where sure it could be similar but lets make it more in tuned with the country vs copying another country.. etc etc which is so random.... like what school is this? where is this school even exist... there is NOT even a school like this in United States ...nobody acts like this or talks like this. Its funny they want to show "modern" kids in India..but even modern kids dont act like this ...its a whole parallel universe they are showing that exists nowhere and im sure some ppl are like this ..I know South Bombay, South Delhi, South Calcutta ...they all the same but kids are not like this ...some are but MOST are NOT.
I have many friends from India who are Anglo Saxan and or Anglo Indian like you mentioned...and we all talk in Hindi fluently and so do they... having accent is not a problem ...but creating something this crap is just so weird... like they want to be white ... you can be "modern" and speak english and have accent and still speak hindi and you could still show a normal school and what not .. its like they (Zoya, KJO) live vicariously in UK and or US and are so influenced by it that they dont know how to make something at home ..unless they make again a random out of the world fantasy of raichand house and or SOTU...these "creators" life in a complete parallel universe.
I havent seen a worse set of young actors as this bunch..sure they are young and maybe some of them will get better with time..but omg what a random casting and what complete nonsense of an adaptation which is not Indian at all with any of its arc. But this is what OTT has become..before there was hope for new things..now these big media houses have infiltrated OTT platforms basically to show the same crap we see in bollywood with the same nepo kids and its not going to end. Netflix, Amz prime etc etc sold their soul to these big media houses and so called directors and now we are back to square one with the same bad content we see in bollywood movies and Indian cinema overall. Sad.
@Subtr0nic I agree with your entire comment but I don't agree with that thing which you said that entire Indian cinema I don't think so that overall Indian cinema comes into the Bollywood category because if Bollywood produce shitt content it doesn't include the entire Indian cinema because there are also lot of other regional industries in India which has the potential and are producing good content and they are not Bollywood because Bollywood is just the mainstream industry of India but not the entire Indian cinema and also I feel like other Indian industries don't have identity crisis like Bollywood have that they again and again forget that where they belong to and always fantasize something else only ...
Remember Haider the adaptation of Hamlet. It was very well made and made justice with Indian culture but this Archies is so cringe even my Anglo Indian friends made fun of the trailer back then leave alone watching the film.
Haider is most problematic movie Shakespeare ka 14da bhardwaj
I am an Anglo Indian and it’s such a bad representation. What the hell were they thinking?😮
Watch animal admin think its best Indian movie in recent time 💀
yes it is. @@raja-jl9os
@@GoofyAhhLion2937 chodu dikhta hu m?
yes@@slayer_142
@@raja-jl9os certainly a sarcasm, right ?
The only film family till to produce consistent talent are kapoors ( prithviraj kapoor's family each one of them were able to establish themselves as the best of their contemporaries they are one clan which has acting in their blood
Bollywood is just cheesy industry plz don't take seriously
Zoya and Farhan Akhtar have always been sourcing plot points, character backstories, dialogue and body language from hollywood films. It looked cool in Dil Chahta Hai but the. novelty wore off quickly. Be it the Don films or ZMNDB or the boat movie, I get a Déjà vu of having already watched all this on HBO and Star Movies.
Fun fact: the whole movie is inspired from Tarak Mehta ka ooltah chashma’s gandhi maidan episodes 😜
Tarak mehta is better than garbage bollywood in 2010s💀
Correct even I thought the same
It is an irony of our times that sad portfolio reels like these make it to the front of our viewing platforms and promoted to high heavens yet good, at least more honestly written and made films like Jaanejaan, Kathal, Ghoomer, Pippa (and many more, these were just my favs from the year) don't get even a decent exposure.
Bollywood is garbage
Thanks for saving our time man
They should not call this an adaption, better call this a remake. Almost everything is as Americanized as the original comic itself, just the retro aesthetic has been changed to more cottagecore. They've mixed the OG American names and "Archies" iconic stuff like Pop's diner so they're true to the comics, so why bring in the "Anglo-Indian" angle?? Just make a remake. Either that or a completely Indianized version. That way you won't trigger the comic's fandom nor the Anglo Indian depiction nor the actor's privileged backgrounds or anything that should be a problem.
yo.. everything said... i have to disagree with you on one key aspect - archies was never about solving mysteries - they might have spin offs where they did solve mysteries. but the comics are just good old fashioned American teenager wholesomeness... so its ok for the movie not have a core story. so i think thats a bit harsh
Log bollywood ko itna seriously kyu le rhe h sabko pata h bollywood is just mediocre industry 😒 mujhe gussa tab ata h jab cheesy industry ko seriously liya jata h
bollywood is just time pass industry
Yes it's pathetic......nothing but show of privilege....thanks for an honest review....🙏
Still better than animal
@@finddeepalilmao ,fix ur movie taste
L taste@@finddeepali
Archies cast is giving a tough competition to the native Europeans in terms of lifestyle and fashion.😂😂😂😂
European look better than bollywood actor's and Indian people's
average dikhte h India k log accept kar lo bc
Honestly CLASS was a much better adaptation of Elite, the performances really struck a chord !! But this is unimaginable, why Zoya why
Right ❤
I mean most of the cast in Class didnt know how to act at all except few who scraped through.
But hands down it is much much better than Archies.
But
Because zoya is your chachi
Class got characters bang on it was really authentic i would have loved to see better screenplay in that otherwise acting characters are so good
@@lakkadbagganaah bro except the villan everyone was bang on
Appreciate you for saying the truth out loud bro!
Adaption is totally fine but at least they should have adopt in an Indian culture without changing the source material and plot , for example Agastya Nanda's character is Adarsh which is based on Archies character just like Pavitr Prahabakar is based on Peter Parker and other actors as Indian characters based on the og characters in a totally Indian environment. Also the actors have tried very hard to look white and westerner to appease them and that's the main reason many people didn't liked or are not interested in the movie.
Oh no! I was waiting eagerly for this. Remembering my college days reading Archies and felt nostalgic seeing the movie announcement 😢😢😢😢
Just go ahead and watch it without thinking about these reviews which are done by people who have already decided that they are going to hate the movie and almost everyone with a slightly privileged family. Reviews are really spoiling our movie experience nowadays.
@@kimneichonghengna8074haan I'll try to watch
Comic read ki ho to then u will love it and will have nostalgic feeling.
Archies itself is tatti anyway.
@@sauron2000000diamond comics best hai. Hai na??
Such well written honest review Shan 👏🏻✨
Dude, love your reviews. I've come to like and trust you so much that I don't watch anything unless it comes recommended by you.
Watched it for 5 minutes, could not take it anymore and thought Iska review zyada interesting hoga and I came here 😂
My respect for Riverdale grows more and more.
I witnessed Incredible attention to detail in every scene being given
As a fan of the archie comic books I fully agree on the Dilton part. I don't know why do Netflix makers always feel the need to do this
i think its become a fad to show atleast one gay character ..i have no issues with that..but its something these platforms are doing more and more on purpose to act as if the company is "inclusive" and thats ok but sometimes it seems forced for no reason and not organic but not a big deal ...hopefully the world becomes more tolerant
Hahahhahahhahahahha I was waiting for this and it came out even before I had expected.
Ab toh movie dekhna hi padega just to celebrate apna Shantanu 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Watch tarak mehta better than bollywood
Yesssssss finally. Both Farhan and Zoya do make the elite u cannot sit with us vibe movies. But Farhan always acts in underdog man of the earth type romrs😜
Movie ki casting nahi hue hai cast ke liye movie banayi gayi hai😂
Ruskin Bond is an Anglo Indian and his memoirs would give a good context about life as one. Watch Ek tha Rusty.
Truely agree with elitism element always existing in most Zoya Akhtar movies whether it was Zindagi Na milegi dobara or dil dhadakne do. They were always cruising Europe or in yachts and even they had a personal plane! Maybe the exception was Gully Boy.
I was waiting for your review on archies
Congratulations Shan and Renuka! 💜
The only Archie’s I had known is the post cards that we used to buy.
Woh post card tha?
😂
Oh damn I remember it, good old days
absolutely phenomenal review. spot on.
Yeh toh Arjun Kapoor se bhi bekaar nikle🤣🤣🤣
If karan johar host next ffare award.. suhana will win best actress😅😅😅
It's beautiful how refreshing take on the genre, breaking away from clichés
Shan bhai, i think 'Animal' deserves one more video, as on second viewing I see so many layers that have still not been discussed anywhere
Congratulations shan bhai for the baby girl😍😍
To be very honest, people should not totally hate them because they are from film families, who wouldn't want to utilise if they get such a huge platform deserving or not... I saw Archies and everyone for their first film did a decent job I liked everyone the lead Agastya and Khushi also did a good job, the only cringe for me throughout the film was Suhana, I mean her expressions, her voice the way she delivered, everything was for some reason cringey... Only for her, I wanna say, if she isn't SRKs daughter, no one could have offered anything with that acting she did.
Don't worry they can only get away with few of this shit shows and their careers won't take off after that... The only sad thing will be this few shit shows could be seen as opportunity for a few lucky talented ones where this was just handed to this people
KRK appreciated this film 😂😂😂
When Raj kapoor saab became an actor no one said nepotisim because he is an amazing actor like hi father Pritviraj saab ..we say nepotisim when the spoil people become stars by their parent with out any talent skills or even screen presents .by the way nepotisim starts in bollywood in 1960 till now.all the love from Iraq
I switched off the movie after 10 minutes and came here to watch your review. I’d very much rather watch ZNMD instead
Some people also hate znmd because its rich people story
If there is no need to touch and adapt , Bollywood starts from that point
I would have preferred a straight teen high school rom com thriller
Mera bhai agaya❤
The newcomers collectively elevate the film with their dedication and passion.
Thats why I call you my Bhai.. I absolutely felt the same way about the movie.. Never seen a movie try so hard to be cool and end up looking wannabe. and Suhana was sooooo cringely cliched
Watch animal your bro think animal is best movie
Yes Ranbir acted 100 times better than all the star cast of archies combined.
If u wanna watch what pure cinema is,watch HANNIBAL LECTER,its pure art to me,so will it be for you
Hamme sirf Raj aur Diamond comics padhi hai. Agar ye Pinky ya Billu par bhi bana dete to kuchh relate kar paate. Archies ko maine sirf newspaper ke corner me dekha hai.
Most genuine reviewer of Bollywood till date!
Very precise and superb review 🔥👍🏻
To play the devil's advocate, I think this movie will appeal a lot more to Western audiences. International Netflix accounts are promoting it as well and the response has been mostly positive there.
Even foreign audiences doesn't wana see the faces of these nakhli angrez
@@jas0204lol.
White sepoys are cringe
@@jas0204we are 10% German aryans saar. 😂😂😂
@@Gmthekilleru really believe in aryan invasion theory which has been debunked?
Because it's a generic Netflix movie based on no specific culture and located in nowhereland. It's a throwaway film.
congratulations daddy shan 😂for baby girl may god bless her🙌🙌
Totally agreed 💯👍
I actually started watching this film thinking it'll be a mystery or thriller or something on those lines. That was my impression of Archies. But what was that story? Like really? I'll watch TAPPU SENA any day over whatever you call this.
Ye movie America me release karni chahiye thi bhartiyo per ye zulm kyun 😠
Don't worry... After 10 years they will learn how to act and critics will be gushing over them😂😂...
Shaan Bhai BINDAAS. Love your reviews. Lots of respect from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Someone had said that its a Nepotism ka Buffet xD
khushi kapoor, dot and vendang shows potential. Rest can be flushed.
Khushi was surprising and endearing, there was an unassuming honesty to her. She has potential to be the Anne Hathaway of Bollywood!
Suhana was cringe cringe cringe and should not be cast in a high school play much less a movie. But who will tell this new Ananya on the block 🤢🤮