Once people are willing to pay a higher price, any industry will always look to keep cost high. The consumer must restrain from purchasing and drive cost down.
That's me alright. Just built a $6500 PC using parts like that... and yet i'm still too much of a miser to buy anything on steam unless its on %80 discount.
I'm disappointed in all the prices when compared to performance for this gen. Unless a good majority (80-90%) of new AAA-games in the next year adopt DLSS as an up-scaling/post-processing method to increase performance, AIBs and Nvidia are going to have a hard time selling the value of 1st-gen Turing graphics cards to the average consumer.
Tryin'Tech i completely agree i just mentioned the TI because its the one i always got. i don't see DLSS being used by a lot till at least next gens cards maybe longer
Strixes have always been overpriced.... from video cards to motherboards to monitors. It's like the Apple of PC. A price premium to slap on a brand name.
No one should buy these things even if games adopt RTX and DLSS. This is just plane arrogance. They used last years cripto craze to keep their prices high. If we continue to buy at this prices next gen will be even more expensive .
Yeah, my MSI GTX 780 Lightning for 500 Euros was crazy, six years ago... Nvidia going too far. The consumer market really needs more companies producing graphic cards that can compete with Nvidia...
Amplifi3d my first nvidia gpu was only 500 sek or €50 and I bought it to play soldier of fortune!!!! My last card is as a 1080 ti for £750 and I have mostly being playing BG2 and mowas 2 lately 😂😂😂😂
stupidest shit i've read all day. you could have ALWAYS bought a whole system for the price. nothing has changed. it all depends on what you wanted to stick in there. we had $1100 GPUs before, 6 years worth of inflation ago. AMD had the R9 290X that was selling for $800+. if in 2013, you would have wanted to build a high end system with a intel 3930K, properly cooled R9 290X, SSD, 16GB RAM and all that, you'd end up shelling out nearly $2500, WITHOUT peripherals. i know that because i did that. nothing has changed.
Abraham Lincoln Abe, the 290/x @ 800 was bc of cryptocurrency, not bc that was the MSRP. Sorry you paid so much though, that’s brutal. At least you had the best single chip gpu on the market. The prices across the pond are odd, as over here the AIB cards are less than MSRP, while the FE are $100 over (supposedly) for the 2070, then $300 over for the 2080 and 2080ti, so the FE models are all more expensive, with the highest AIB I’ve seen coming in 50 less than FE prices.
Yes but also with a same brand you have this going on, like at MSI there is little to no difference in performance between the MSI trio and Duke cards while you have a significant difference in price.
Zhangir Duiseke Like I wrote, prices are already too high (because of Nvidia), but Asus for not reason at all adds a few 100 on top compared to the competition.
really seeming like everybody kinda phoned this series in, as if they knew the mining crash/used 1080 glut would tank the whole line..... I am waiting for the next series cards, hopefully the market will have settled by then. If it doesn't _You can be Damn Sure that a new GPU maker will arise probably Taiwanese-Owned_
@@njwracingable Yeah me too... fortunately I pre ordered it because on day of release it went up ...on Ebuyer it went up to £859,95 So was pleased I ordered it on Scan the night before .. it even marched my rig as it's black n white theme ..
Nigel Wotton Why are you pleased? You could have purchased an EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition with iCX Cooling for £661.99 with the same performance as the 2080, and the EVGA 1080TI has 11GB GDDR5X VRAM compared to the 8GB THE 2080 has. Most of the newest games use well over 8GB VRAM at 1440p- 4k resolution max graphics settings now, and VRAM usage is only gonna get higher with future games with higher textures, so your probably gonna have to lower your graphics settings unless you run at 1080p
I almost cried when I dropped £800 on the Strix 1080Ti when stock was limited upon release.... The 2080/Ti asking prices are just pure greed. I'm massively disappointed with Asus (and Nvidia) on this one. So much so, that I'm definitely going to think twice before buying any of their products ever again.
Just wait for the Titan people to buy a card and after that no 1 is going to buy them they'll have to come down in price ; or we get a 2080ti SE for 799.99 in 8mnt's
I think this is the point where i end my PC Gaming times and head to consoles exclusively. Those prices in high and top end PC Gaming have become absolutely ridiculous! I've into PC Gaming since the 486 DX2 days, with ISA and VLB Cards like a Diamond Viper, then Pentium with Nvidia Riva TNT, Geforce 1 on AGP all the way up to the GTX 1070 on PCI Express. But spending three times as much as the most powerful console only on a single GPU isn't really worth it anymore. I think those companies don't have interest in making GPUs anymore but rather selling Chips for Tesla or Researchers and AI Stuff now. PC Gaming is only a second tier market at best for them. We just get what is left over from those developments and have to pay way to much for that. Sad times!
The 1070 is still much faster than any gpu in current consoles and I have my doubts even next gen consoles will be much faster if at all. So why is the pricing of the new nvidia cards a reason to switch to console gaming? A 1070 will prbly last you another 12 to 24 months on 1080p. Besides, I think this generation will be replaced quite soon by 7nm cards and AMD will deliver something competitive with Navi in late 2019. I also wouldn't be too suprised if prices slowly went down after the old pascal overstock is sold out and GDDR6 production becomes cheaper.
Marcel Krebs I agree. I own a 1070 which is a good few years old now and I recently upgraded my monitor to 3440x1440 ultrawide. 1070 is enough to run most of the games with maxed out graphics 60+fps on that ultrawide beast but yes, it is not perfect... for an example, for Witcher 3, I still had to tune down a few settings, but it still looked stunning and played like a charm with no lower than 60fps. I would probably had gotten myself a 2070 but now that the performance benchmarks and the pricings are out, getting anything from nvidia for this generation of gpus is pointless. I shall await another year hoping to hear anything from the red team to mix things up, but the only real upgrade from a 1070 right now is the 1080ti which has lower prices than ever... then again - is it really worth it?
You can build a very reasonably priced PC system if you play at 1080p. And if you buy second hand you build something very cheaply indeed.Consoles can only do native 4k at 30fps. You wouldn't need the highest end GPU to do that.
1080p has hit it's limit. Games are looking as good now as they even will unless the underlying tech changes. If you have a 1070 and a decent cpu and game at 1080p you won't need to change for a long time. Every game I own can be run on high/ultra at 1080p and push over 60fps.
So unbelievably disappointing :( not the video but the GPU prices and the GPU Companies justifying it, it was bad enough when miners made the prices inflate to astronomical levels, now you have to be filthy rich to buy a decent Video card, and even with £9 an hour from my job theres no way in hell i can justify the cost over bills rent and food
The producers (Asus, gigabyte, msi, ...) did see their GPU card being sold, at those inflated prices during the mining hype, earlier this year. So they thought by themself: 'those people are still buying this, at these prices? lol. Lets put the prices a bit higher so we make more profit'.
Xbox getting keyboard and mouse asap. Buy the whole thing for 500 bux. Fuck the vcard companies they have become disgusting. Rtx 2080 here at our local shop $1200 canadian not a chance.
prices like this will wipe out pc gameing, seems like they liked the mining card prices and there keeping it going and i thought the 10 series cards were pricey
nam Alexander It won’t destroy pc gaming as console GPUs are still years behind even a 1080... it will be five years before we see a 2080ti in a console and by that time there will be £400 PC GPUs with better same performance..
Asus fucked up on the fan headers,. They're both meant to have them. But they ran into "technical issues". Aka a rush release www.techpowerup.com/247951/asus-clears-the-air-on-missing-fan-connect-case-fan-headers-on-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-strix
I completely agree... evga ti ftw3 and this strix ti is the only good custom pcb now on market /19 power phases + 2 bioses + good heatsink +sw/, but man the price is completely ridiculous on strix Ti...evga ftw3 ti will take many strix Ti customers..me included..And I am Strix brand fan..Asus wake up!
well said, and even then you went easy, because if you did bring 1080ti pricing into it then it gets even worse, right now ocuk selling 1080 ti's for under £600 inc vat, over £200 less than cheapest 1080s and over £400 less than the asus strix 2080.
100 percent more expensive than the 1080Ti (ok, 95 percent - here in Australia, my Aorus Xtreme Edition is $1149, Strix 2080Ti is $2249).... it's just a bad joke now. They are NOWHERE near worth that much for only 30% performance gains. Nvidia really screwed this one up and I hope this launch comes back and bites them in the arse. TTL, I know you probably don't want to burn bridges, but you need to be critical of Nvidia and their partners with this ludicrous pricing. I thought the 1080Ti was over the top when I bought mine, but this is just insanity.
NONE of the 20XX cards are worth anywhere near the asking prices compared to the equivalent 10XX cards. And the 2080Ti prices are simply stupid for the performance gains over the 1080Ti. And if enough people are outright stupid enough to consider such prices normal and buy them things will only get worse. I've assembled bleeding edge gaming computers in the past for the price of an 2080Ti today. Including everything and the kitchen sink. Graphic card pricing today is simply bananas.
Way overpriced, don't buy these cards, send nvidia a message- don't rip us off. Get a 1080ti for HALF the price of a 2080ti. Tom where on your charts is the ROG STRIX 1080ti OC benchmarks???
Fast Eddy- I already have a 1080ti so I wont be buying old stock. Do you seriously think nvidia are gonna drop 20 series prices??? WHY??? , maybe when the next gen gpus come out or AMD or INTEL up thier game and give nvidia serious competition in the GPU market. Whether nvidia want you to buy up there 10 series stock or not is irrelevant, the 1080ti at present is a bargain with 3GB more VRAM and roughly the same performance as a 2080 but cheaper, and you can get an aftermarket 1080ti for half the price of a 2080ti.
@Vagabundo Yes 2080 has 8GB of GDDR6 and what about it. Do you think you will notice any difference performance wise from GDDR5X. But you will notice the 3GB less VRAM the 2080 has compared to the 11GB VRAM of the 1080ti especially in 4K High textures games when you have to lower graphics settings due to lack of available VRAM. You really need to learn about gpu hardware before you throw your cash away on GDDR6
Higher consistent clocks sounds logical, but some reviews show indeed higher clocks against the founders edition, but then the FE somehow still gets a few more FPS.
Always buy ref design and add a water block (EK) I beat all third-party cards with my OC's and obviously being on water its quiet and cool below 50 under load !!! I picked up my 2080TI for 999 GREAT BRITSH POUNDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is depressing me, it looks like i'll not be upgrading from my Asus GTX1080 for at least another 3 years but even then i can't imagine i could stomach prices like these, a line has to be drawn and this has gone so far over that it makes me sick! I've been a customer of Overclockers for ages and I like the service but sorry there has to be a limit and i bet there's going to be a slump in sales (wondering what price a 4080ti will cost in a few years lol)
Dark times for pc gaming. Why do people want to spend £1200 on a GPU to play console games on max settings? No one makes games that push PC's anymore. I keep seeing people use GTA 5 as benchmark, a game designed to run on console hardware from 2005! Sad.
games are limited by console hardware... 1060 6GB is all you really need right now... But 2k popularity has risen so it make sense to get something like the 1070 Ti... not the 1080 ti or 2080
$2249 in Australia so we are getting really screwed. Looked at the 2 sites where I shop and they have sold out so some have more money than sense. Funny thing is I was hoping it would drive down the 1080ti and that has not happened
Love those fan headers. I actually removed the stock fans and shroud from my Strix 1080 Ti and run dual 140mm fans connected to the PWM headers as exhaust from my case (NCASE M1, pulling air/heat away from the card instead of blowing down onto it) and it works great.
The 2080 Ti is crazy expensive as it is. I may sit this gen out. I really like Asus but if I do decide to upgrade to a 2080 Ti (if I get a Pimax 5K Plus forVR), Asus has dropped themselves out of contention... Unless they can get their prices to a reasonable level.
@@Safetytrousers I can understand that. Not always sensible myself, especially when it been over 2 years since the last generation. BUT $1,250+ GPU can go a long way motivating you into sensibleness. 😉
Unless you are desperate for 4k 60fps+ on all the recent AAA games, you'd have to be bonkers to not just get a 1080 ti.... raytracing is gorgeous but going back to 1080p won't cut it in a space where enthusiasts are spending over a grand on a single GPU... Writings on the wall. Once the early adopter craze wears off, these won't sell much.
In Jay's video, the extra fan connectors on the card were present on the non-TI and not present on the TI. Looks like it's the exact opposite here. Probably this feature is not finalized yet and we're seeing mostly pre-production models sent to reviewers at this point. Nonetheless, these are ridiculously priced compared to other variants from other board partners.
Thanks for the video :D Could I ask one question, What do you use to display benchmark tests? (graphs I mean) I wont overlay for now ill edit it in while talking about the graph. Thanks, Love you TTL GTC
It's so hard deciding what card to get with the current pricing. Realistically you could get a reference founders edition and a waterblock and backplate for less price than most AIB 20 series cards. I think the pricing is just insane on the new series. Another great video tom, glad you let asus know their pricing is around £300 too much :D.
You have got to be joking. $1400+ for one graphics card. WOW! I guess there were people that paid that much for a Titan graphics cards, so I guess there will be people that will be willing to pay that much for these graphics cards. I guess we have to ask ourselves, is the price of that one graphics card worth the money you will pay for one component just to game. For me, if money were no object, I wouldn't bat an eye about paying that much for cutting edge stuff, but money is an object so I just can't even. lol
Prices are that high because OCUK have no issue scalping their customers. Once they're commonly available the price will drop. Just look at OCUK right now, they have basic Palitt 2080TI's they're listing for £1,399, Scan lists the same card for £1,199. Ebuyer have the OC Strix listed at £1,350.
OCUK have been awful recently with pricing on GPUs. Hell! I remember when coffeelake came out and stock was super thin, they decided to bin a bunch of chips and sell them in brackets going up to a grand! The moment there's a hot product they are the first e-tailer to leave you laying in a bathtub of ice wondering why your kidney is missing.
Safetytrousers As I said in my original post, they price things fairly once commonly available, but when items are in short supply they defiantly adhere to the fluid supply and demand pricing model, i.e Scalping.
I have had 3 strix cards. All 3 had fan failures in under 2 years. Average case temp under load was 40-45c. I had been a diehard Asus customer for many years but have moved on to Evga now. Still use the Asus motherboards though.
I really wanted a 2080ti stirx from Asus. But the price difference is way to big for around 1% better performance. So i have order a msi 2080 ti trio x instead.
Why would anyone get a 2080 when the 1080ti is the same performance for way less money? The 2080ti is faster sure 30% tho for the INSANE price ? I mean you could get yourself 2 1080tis for that and have money left over for a CPU.
I have an MSI 2080ti Gaming X TRIO on order. My 1080ti Gaming X TRIO w/8700K can barely do 60fps on 4K. So for me it's worth it and I don't mind paying the premium price if I can get 60+ fps in 4K on Ultra. Plus, it's nice to have the latest and greatest.
The cheapest new 1080ti I can find is about £620, several at about £720 and one (on Amazon) at £830. The 2080 is not way more than that. Support for SLI is very patchy and there are other reasons for wanting just one GPU. The 2080ti is the best performing gaming GPU there is. If you want to have the best that is it.
The thing is, Turing doesn't really scale with temperature anyways so there is less incentive to invest in overkill cooling. And if I spend 200€ extra on cooling, at that point I can go with a custom water block and have change left over.
It would have been nice if Asus redesigned the looks of the Strix 2080ti as it’s a whole new generation of GPU. It just looks like my Strix 1080ti OC with the exception of a few little things. Pretty boring considering. Everything related to RTX is disappointing. Sure the performance of the 2080ti is impressive but usually cards that cost “Titan money” are. That’s why they call them Titans. I don’t think anyone should buy these cards. Theres no reason they should cost this much. Their taking advantage of the pc community at the risk of killing pc gaming for ridiculous profits. Nvidia saw what pc enthusiast and miners are willing to pay and decided to raise the prices....period.
I honestly don't think these card manufacturers understand that the majority of gamers have whole rigs that cost 1500 dollars!!! This is price gouging plain and simple!! 1200 dollars!!! that price shouldn't even exist for a freakin graphics card!!!! Corporate greed at its worst!!! Thanks Nvidia for making a whole line of graphics cards for 1% of the gamers out there!!! I will NEVER pay 1000 for a freakin graphics card, especially when I can get a 1080ti pre-owned for 450$. I could get 2 for less than 1000!! !@#@$%^&*())__!!!!!!!!!!!!
So I’m looking at buying a new gpu. Was looking at the rtx 2080 over the 1080ti because they are about the same price (Nvidia reference vs EVGA and Asus cards) was curious if the reference is worth saving nearly 100$ over the aib cards for the rtx and if this is a good card choice for 2k ultrawide.
The only real point of the 2080 and the 2080ti is to make the 1080 and the 1080ti cheaper. The prices are an absolute joke and I have a Rampage 5 extreme and a strix 1080 so already willing to pay the ASUS tax but the current pricing is just silly.
So true, after years i finally got a job and wanna get an all new rig. But there's no way in hell i'm playing those kind of money for a gtx, so it's 1080ti for me.
I bought the Asus rog 1660ti to run my new LG 32 inch 1440 144hz monitors and couldn't be happier. Yes I bought 2. Works amazing with my recording software program's and I don't need my reading glasses anymore! lol. I am actually gonna buy a game and learn how to play it with help from my son. should be fun. There is a market for these amazing video cards and thanks for the review.
my belief is they didn't buy that many from Nvidia and just charged a large amount to cover costs and are focusing on the 10 series cards for now. i also say "Ace us" not "A zeus"
Hello Tinytomlogan, I would like to know, if the new 2,7 Slots cooler graficcard design (like this strix) will fit in a NZXT h200 case. Or will it interfere with the power supply shroud? Greetings from Cologne (ger)
I am looking to upgrade price i know is bad but is it worth for me to upgrade from a 1070 to a 2080 ? i am running a i7 4790k cpu 16gig 2400 ram ddr3 looking to boost Game performance a bit not sure if the cpu is a bottle neck for me and what too upgrade first would love some input
It's almost like they had banked on the cryptoboom and then when it collapsed -they created an initial shortage & tacked on some RTX tech that they had planned for the next series...... Looks like my Maximus X Formula board will be getting a 1080TI instead. I love ROG but cannot afford this series at this point, thanx for the great presentation TT.
it comes to something when the gpu costs more than the rest of the pc build. I just built a pc with 8700k, strix z370e mobo, 16gb 3000mhz ram, 360mm AIO, 256gb Nvme & a Coolermaster h500m for just under £1000.
For people with one of the three 4k 144hz monitors the RTX ti is THE ONLY option if you play old games like me but still want the 4k getthe 1080ti/RTX2080
Haven't watched whole video yet and have commented on pricing elsewhere (Jayz) but wanted to clarify quick point. Jay, in his review, says it it is the 2080 that has the fan headers on the card and the Ti doesn't. You're saying it is the Ti that has them and not the 2080. Which is which?
10 series card for me 1070ti atm is my prefered choice not too exspensive lots of performance for the money should see me good for another two years at least.
The price I paid for New videocards(Best Buy): AMD HD5870($400USD) , Nvidia EVGA GTX 670FTW($400USD) looking @ the new Nvidia RTX 2070 ($599USD) the whole RTX line is way overpriced, its like nvidia switched the names around & we the consumer are paying for a higher teir..... RTX 2070= RTX 2080 ect.
$1400 could literally get you 2 1080ti cards in many places. I just can't wrap my head around this. Anyways, thank you for another great review and honest words Tom.
Prices of GPUs and DDR4 will probably hurt PC gaming. The cost of entry is too high. Lots will not bother and stick to consoles. Less PC gamers is not good for the sector. I am in the process of building a Ryzen based PC on a ROG Stryx B450 board to replace my trusty old i5 2500k. For now I will stick with my cheap little 1050ti I got as a stop gap. It does okay for 1080p most of the time. If the next AMD GPUs are faster than 1080ti but not as fast as 2080ti, I will probably go with them if the price is right. Nvidia are taking the piss these days with prices.
What is the proper connections to use for 3 monitor Nvidia surround on the ROG STRIX 2080TI? It keeps crashing out when I click surround configure. Using 2 DP and 1 HDMI. Or 2 HDMI and 1 DP. Do I have to use the USB-C instead and not a combo of HDMI/DP? Thank you kindly for any assistance anyone can provide.
Most people, as in about 90% of us cannot afford or simply won't spend that kind of money on a GPU. Who is Nvidia really trying to fool here? This is simple and as clear as day. Nvidia has no GPU competitor until AMD gets their act together. So they waited longer than ever to release their next generation and waited till people really started bitching about it and then threw a crazy price at the wall to see if it would stick. And of course you get that 5 to 10% of people that always pre-order for whatever reason. I'm not saying it's a bad business move, because it's not. But it is shiesty as hell and reveals Nvidia's true colors when it comes to their priorities. ASUS isn't to blame really. They have to pay Nvidia first then research and develop their cooler and then on top of that try to turn a profit.
Villainous foreigner Because he is so English in his mannerisms and choice of words. It's kind of comforting as someone who's living abroad away from England. And he seems like a genuinely nice guy.
Sir im trying to build a new gaming pc.. should i go for RTX 2080 or GTX 1080 ti. i have budget to go for both.. can you please suggest me an option. i want this pc to be future proof too.. pls pls help
For £1500 id rather have a 4K monitor 3x GTX 1080s and give 2 friends an upgrade as well. Ive had a GTX 480, GTX 680 and GTX 780. These rising prices limited me to the GTX 1070 at launch and because of the mining bubble 'm left without an upgrade path with ~£500 to spend 2 years later. No other PC gamer I know in person is even willing to spend that much so I have no idea how this business model makes sense.
Isn't it the 2080ti that doesn't have the fan connectors ? That's what another reviewer said and when u spin them around together the 2080ti doesn't have them ?
I'm so happy I've become older and wiser regarding purchasing ;) the correct wording is nvidia you're taking the utter p**s! But seriously I'm happy if everyone goes out and buys these cards and demand is sky high as I can then pick up a 1080ti cheaper :) great video mate
I love my Asus 1080 Ti ROG Strix OC and I really wanted to put the Asus 2080 Ti ROG Strix OC in my new build but I totally agree the price is ridiculous. No matter how good it is it's not worth £250+ extra over the already over priced 2080 TI's. It's almost double the price what I paid for the 1080 Ti and certainly not worth an extra £600+ and I am so disappointed. BUT...I'll still probably buy it 😂
Thats it, Asus their prices are just insane. Absolutely insane. I can afford this, but still wont pay it for it. The other branches MSI/Gigabyte are almost as good (like 5fps lesser) and almost €300 cheaper. Jesus christ.
Actually they are just as good. The MSI Trio cards are in some reviews a tiny bit faster than the Asus cards, sometimes a tiny bit less. It's the silicon lottery. Besides, you will not notice a 1-2% difference anyway.
Worst thing. Some even remove the aircooler and slap on a EKWB waterblock that costs an additional 150 euros. I still have a few months (december) before I have to decide which card I gonna buy (either a 2nd 1080TI or 2080TI) and it mainly depends on what DLSS would bring to the table. If DLSS really crank up those framerates, then I'm going for a plain NVidia FE edition.. My current 1080TI (strix non-oc version) isn't fast enough for 3 2560x1440 monitors with a 40+ fps. I 'play' simulators (Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, Prepar3d, ETS2, ATS) and I had to switch temporary to a single Acer X34P (3440x1440) monitor to have 40+ fps. But unfortunally, most simulators don't work well in SLI.. So come on, DLSS.. Same with the new 9700K/9900K processors. Same story basically, but my current rig has a skylake (6700K). So the diff with the 9000 series will be bigger than if I would come from the 8700K cpu. I would love to buy AMD, but there single clock speed is lacking a bit to much compared to Intel and for most simulators that is the most important factor. I have a 'bad' 6700 that won't go higher than 4.4Ghz (I lost the lottery apparently, boy would I love to win the lottery (any) once in my life!) but rumors has it that the 9000 series are out of the box close to the 5 Ghz limit.But I recon that the frequencies of the 9900K samples are are 'leaked' are carefully selected processors..
Problem with PC gaming is, you have to buy alot of stuff to enable max settings on gamings. I mean £1500 2080ti, £1k for a half descent monitor to utilize the GPU on max. GPU nowadays requires watercooling so add another £500. So thats just £3k on these 3 things only lol. People will soon be pushed back to consoles if it carries on at this rate.
Do you have any knowledge about Asus making a Poseidon version of rtx?? I know it probably cost a lot more than their rtx, but it be so awesome to have that card. 1080ti in Poseidon version was (in my opinion) the best 1080ti on market. How do you think about it, and can you ask Asus about it?? thank you in advance. greetings
On offer here today for 1350 for the Strix 2080ti OC...time to jump from MSI 980ti or skip this generation? (Got Alienware G-sync 3440x1440 21:9 @120hz)
Once people are willing to pay a higher price, any industry will always look to keep cost high. The consumer must restrain from purchasing and drive cost down.
meanwhile im still using $100 card and doing fine
I hope they dont im enjoying watching the nvidia users pay out the nose for tiny gains.
People don't understand that unfortunately.
WELL NO SHIT.. BEARS SHIT IN THE WOODS TOO, JUST INCASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
Yup, look at smartphones now. Started last year, now several are above 1k
You've been very kind to Asus and Nvidia here, most of us would be a lot more critical of this launch...
mad thing is people will buy these while waiting for a £10 game on steam to go on sale 75% off.
they're saving up on games for the next 1500 gbp cards...
true hahahaha
That's me alright. Just built a $6500 PC using parts like that... and yet i'm still too much of a miser to buy anything on steam unless its on %80 discount.
this is the first time in a long time im not upgrading and i always got the strix cards. disappointed in the prices with the TI this gen
I'm disappointed in all the prices when compared to performance for this gen. Unless a good majority (80-90%) of new AAA-games in the next year adopt DLSS as an up-scaling/post-processing method to increase performance, AIBs and Nvidia are going to have a hard time selling the value of 1st-gen Turing graphics cards to the average consumer.
Tryin'Tech i completely agree i just mentioned the TI because its the one i always got. i don't see DLSS being used by a lot till at least next gens cards maybe longer
Right? I'm really contemplating just getting a second 1080 ti
Strixes have always been overpriced.... from video cards to motherboards to monitors. It's like the Apple of PC. A price premium to slap on a brand name.
No one should buy these things even if games adopt RTX and DLSS. This is just plane arrogance. They used last years cripto craze to keep their prices high. If we continue to buy at this prices next gen will be even more expensive .
remember when the flagship cards were 500 bucks...
HandicappedMind that is asking for a list of things ranging from mars bars to new cars that were cheaper back in the day ✌️
Yeah, my MSI GTX 780 Lightning for 500 Euros was crazy, six years ago... Nvidia going too far. The consumer market really needs more companies producing graphic cards that can compete with Nvidia...
Amplifi3d my first nvidia gpu was only 500 sek or €50 and I bought it to play soldier of fortune!!!! My last card is as a 1080 ti for £750 and I have mostly being playing BG2 and mowas 2 lately 😂😂😂😂
i Can remember flagship cards at around 250 bucks well pounds
The prices of these are just stupid.
About 3 years ago you could get an entire system, including peripherals for the price of a 2080ti.
You still can today.
stupidest shit i've read all day. you could have ALWAYS bought a whole system for the price. nothing has changed. it all depends on what you wanted to stick in there. we had $1100 GPUs before, 6 years worth of inflation ago. AMD had the R9 290X that was selling for $800+. if in 2013, you would have wanted to build a high end system with a intel 3930K, properly cooled R9 290X, SSD, 16GB RAM and all that, you'd end up shelling out nearly $2500, WITHOUT peripherals. i know that because i did that. nothing has changed.
Abraham Lincoln Abe, the 290/x @ 800 was bc of cryptocurrency, not bc that was the MSRP. Sorry you paid so much though, that’s brutal. At least you had the best single chip gpu on the market.
The prices across the pond are odd, as over here the AIB cards are less than MSRP, while the FE are $100 over (supposedly) for the 2070, then $300 over for the 2080 and 2080ti, so the FE models are all more expensive, with the highest AIB I’ve seen coming in 50 less than FE prices.
osgrov and play games @1080p low-medium. Back then I'd get a pc for 800e and play everything at ultra for 2-3 years... Now to do that you need 2k.
200 euros more expensive over the already completely overpriced MSI and Gigabyte cards over here. Has Asus gone insane?
Wait what ? 200€ more expensive than the trio ?
Yes.
That's Nvidia has gone insane. They set the prices, and AIB has nothing to do than follow their prices.
Yes but also with a same brand you have this going on, like at MSI there is little to no difference in performance between the MSI trio and Duke cards while you have a significant difference in price.
Zhangir Duiseke Like I wrote, prices are already too high (because of Nvidia), but Asus for not reason at all adds a few 100 on top compared to the competition.
For that price they can't even fix the rainbow wires on the back. And the led on/off switch.....
Omg you are absolute right, ridiculous price and mustard/raimbow cables..
Bought my ASU’s 2080 dual for 715 quid at scan computers.......am super pleased with it after upgrading from a 1070
really seeming like everybody kinda phoned this series in, as if they knew the mining crash/used 1080 glut would tank the whole line.....
I am waiting for the next series cards, hopefully the market will have settled by then.
If it doesn't _You can be Damn Sure that a new GPU maker will arise probably Taiwanese-Owned_
@@njwracingable Yeah me too... fortunately I pre ordered it because on day of release it went up ...on Ebuyer it went up to £859,95 So was pleased I ordered it on Scan the night before .. it even marched my rig as it's black n white theme ..
Nigel Wotton Why are you pleased? You could have purchased an EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition with iCX Cooling for £661.99 with the same performance as the 2080, and the EVGA 1080TI has 11GB GDDR5X VRAM compared to the 8GB THE 2080 has. Most of the newest games use well over 8GB VRAM at 1440p- 4k resolution max graphics settings now, and VRAM usage is only gonna get higher with future games with higher textures, so your probably gonna have to lower your graphics settings unless you run at 1080p
The monopoly tax is just too much.
I almost cried when I dropped £800 on the Strix 1080Ti when stock was limited upon release.... The 2080/Ti asking prices are just pure greed.
I'm massively disappointed with Asus (and Nvidia) on this one. So much so, that I'm definitely going to think twice before buying any of their products ever again.
Just wait for the Titan people to buy a card and after that no 1 is going to buy them they'll have to come down in price ; or we get a 2080ti SE for 799.99 in 8mnt's
Lets hope they learn
I think this is the point where i end my PC Gaming times and head to consoles exclusively.
Those prices in high and top end PC Gaming have become absolutely ridiculous!
I've into PC Gaming since the 486 DX2 days, with ISA and VLB Cards like a Diamond Viper, then Pentium with Nvidia Riva TNT, Geforce 1 on AGP all the way up to the GTX 1070 on PCI Express.
But spending three times as much as the most powerful console only on a single GPU isn't really worth it anymore.
I think those companies don't have interest in making GPUs anymore but rather selling Chips for Tesla or Researchers and AI Stuff now.
PC Gaming is only a second tier market at best for them. We just get what is left over from those developments and have to pay way to much for that.
Sad times!
The 1070 is still much faster than any gpu in current consoles and I have my doubts even next gen consoles will be much faster if at all.
So why is the pricing of the new nvidia cards a reason to switch to console gaming?
A 1070 will prbly last you another 12 to 24 months on 1080p.
Besides, I think this generation will be replaced quite soon by 7nm cards and AMD will deliver something competitive with Navi in late 2019.
I also wouldn't be too suprised if prices slowly went down after the old pascal overstock is sold out and GDDR6 production becomes cheaper.
Marcel Krebs I agree. I own a 1070 which is a good few years old now and I recently upgraded my monitor to 3440x1440 ultrawide. 1070 is enough to run most of the games with maxed out graphics 60+fps on that ultrawide beast but yes, it is not perfect... for an example, for Witcher 3, I still had to tune down a few settings, but it still looked stunning and played like a charm with no lower than 60fps.
I would probably had gotten myself a 2070 but now that the performance benchmarks and the pricings are out, getting anything from nvidia for this generation of gpus is pointless. I shall await another year hoping to hear anything from the red team to mix things up, but the only real upgrade from a 1070 right now is the 1080ti which has lower prices than ever... then again - is it really worth it?
You can build a very reasonably priced PC system if you play at 1080p. And if you buy second hand you build something very cheaply indeed.Consoles can only do native 4k at 30fps. You wouldn't need the highest end GPU to do that.
1080p has hit it's limit. Games are looking as good now as they even will unless the underlying tech changes. If you have a 1070 and a decent cpu and game at 1080p you won't need to change for a long time. Every game I own can be run on high/ultra at 1080p and push over 60fps.
Marcel Krebs 1070 would not be that much faster than the gpu in the xbox one x.
So unbelievably disappointing :( not the video but the GPU prices and the GPU Companies justifying it, it was bad enough when miners made the prices inflate to astronomical levels, now you have to be filthy rich to buy a decent Video card, and even with £9 an hour from my job theres no way in hell i can justify the cost over bills rent and food
The producers (Asus, gigabyte, msi, ...) did see their GPU card being sold, at those inflated prices during the mining hype, earlier this year.
So they thought by themself: 'those people are still buying this, at these prices? lol. Lets put the prices a bit higher so we make more profit'.
Xbox getting keyboard and mouse asap. Buy the whole thing for 500 bux. Fuck the vcard companies they have become disgusting. Rtx 2080 here at our local shop $1200 canadian not a chance.
You dont need to buy the newest thing out on the market you know lol 10xx serie used is going to be pretty cheap now
prices like this will wipe out pc gameing, seems like they liked the mining card prices and there keeping it going and i thought the 10 series cards were pricey
nam Alexander It won’t destroy pc gaming as console GPUs are still years behind even a 1080... it will be five years before we see a 2080ti in a console and by that time there will be £400 PC GPUs with better same performance..
Luckily I now only use my PC for photo editing and don't game anymore. Ridiculous prices on all those new cards. I will keep my 980 for a longer time.
Strange I watched JayzTwoCents this morning and he had the 2080ti and 2080 round the other way in reference to the built in fan headers.
Asus fucked up on the fan headers,. They're both meant to have them. But they ran into "technical issues". Aka a rush release www.techpowerup.com/247951/asus-clears-the-air-on-missing-fan-connect-case-fan-headers-on-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-strix
Ya you're right. In the start of the video when he spins them around you can see it's the ti that doesn't have it.
Absolutely ridiculous pricing. I've always had the 'best' in my rig but not this year.
This is the first time I will not upgrade since 2010, first reason is I can't atm and second is the crazy prices.
$2249.00AU for the Strix OC Edition, absolutely ridiculous!!
I'm in new Zealand and it's even worse 😥
because AU money is only 72% of USD and they charge import tax thank you're government for that.
That's a grand more than I paid for my 1080ti strix .. Rip Asus
I bought 2 1080ti's second hand for less than the 2080 letalone the stupid 2080ti price
Most of my cars cost less than that...
Why am I watching this,keeping my 1080ti and I am going to stay firm and skip the next two generations!
I have a 1080 ti and just finished playing the settlers 4.... 😂😂😂😂
Ouch! Not giving my money to NVIDIA this time around. The less you buy the more you save is the current state of affairs.
I completely agree...
evga ti ftw3 and this strix ti is the only good custom pcb now on market /19 power phases + 2 bioses + good heatsink +sw/, but man the price is completely ridiculous on strix Ti...evga ftw3 ti will take many strix Ti customers..me included..And I am Strix brand fan..Asus wake up!
well said, and even then you went easy, because if you did bring 1080ti pricing into it then it gets even worse, right now ocuk selling 1080 ti's for under £600 inc vat, over £200 less than cheapest 1080s and over £400 less than the asus strix 2080.
100 percent more expensive than the 1080Ti (ok, 95 percent - here in Australia, my Aorus Xtreme Edition is $1149, Strix 2080Ti is $2249).... it's just a bad joke now. They are NOWHERE near worth that much for only 30% performance gains. Nvidia really screwed this one up and I hope this launch comes back and bites them in the arse. TTL, I know you probably don't want to burn bridges, but you need to be critical of Nvidia and their partners with this ludicrous pricing. I thought the 1080Ti was over the top when I bought mine, but this is just insanity.
NONE of the 20XX cards are worth anywhere near the asking prices compared to the equivalent 10XX cards. And the 2080Ti prices are simply stupid for the performance gains over the 1080Ti. And if enough people are outright stupid enough to consider such prices normal and buy them things will only get worse. I've assembled bleeding edge gaming computers in the past for the price of an 2080Ti today. Including everything and the kitchen sink. Graphic card pricing today is simply bananas.
Youre the first to show the new Asus Strix models - congratulations !
Not the first, Tech Yes City posted their review on 23rd September. But OC3D is the best.
Way overpriced, don't buy these cards, send nvidia a message- don't rip us off. Get a 1080ti for HALF the price of a 2080ti. Tom where on your charts is the ROG STRIX 1080ti OC benchmarks???
Fast Eddy- I already have a 1080ti so I wont be buying old stock. Do you seriously think nvidia are gonna drop 20 series prices??? WHY??? , maybe when the next gen gpus come out or AMD or INTEL up thier game and give nvidia serious competition in the GPU market. Whether nvidia want you to buy up there 10 series stock or not is irrelevant, the 1080ti at present is a bargain with 3GB more VRAM and roughly the same performance as a 2080 but cheaper, and you can get an aftermarket 1080ti for half the price of a 2080ti.
@@eazyryder1591 2080 has drr6 tho
@Vagabundo Yes 2080 has 8GB of GDDR6 and what about it. Do you think you will notice any difference performance wise from GDDR5X. But you will notice the 3GB less VRAM the 2080 has compared to the 11GB VRAM of the 1080ti especially in 4K High textures games when you have to lower graphics settings due to lack of available VRAM. You really need to learn about gpu hardware before you throw your cash away on GDDR6
@@eazyryder1591 never going to throw my cash away, but that is one of the reasons why the 2080 and ti is more expensive
Vagabundo Yes new technology is almost always more expensive, but 8GB of GDDR6 VRAM on a 4K capable GPU, IMO is NOT better than 11GB of GDDR5X.
Well because of the crazy pricing I'm going to save myself a lot of money by just sticking with my old Asus Strix 1080Ti OC Edition card.
Higher consistent clocks sounds logical, but some reviews show indeed higher clocks against the founders edition, but then the FE somehow still gets a few more FPS.
Always buy ref design and add a water block (EK) I beat all third-party cards with my OC's and obviously being on water its quiet and cool below 50 under load !!! I picked up my 2080TI for 999 GREAT BRITSH POUNDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is depressing me, it looks like i'll not be upgrading from my Asus GTX1080 for at least another 3 years but even then i can't imagine i could stomach prices like these, a line has to be drawn and this has gone so far over that it makes me sick! I've been a customer of Overclockers for ages and I like the service but sorry there has to be a limit and i bet there's going to be a slump in sales (wondering what price a 4080ti will cost in a few years lol)
Strix Advanced Edition and Overclocked Edition ?????? What do you think about ?
Why don't they put the bios switch on the back of the card so that you can change it without having to open your PC case?
these cards were designed to be racked in a crypto rig, that's why.
Because it would add another $200 in price to the card
Dark times for pc gaming. Why do people want to spend £1200 on a GPU to play console games on max settings? No one makes games that push PC's anymore. I keep seeing people use GTA 5 as benchmark, a game designed to run on console hardware from 2005! Sad.
games are limited by console hardware... 1060 6GB is all you really need right now... But 2k popularity has risen so it make sense to get something like the 1070 Ti... not the 1080 ti or 2080
$2249 in Australia so we are getting really screwed. Looked at the 2 sites where I shop and they have sold out so some have more money than sense. Funny thing is I was hoping it would drive down the 1080ti and that has not happened
Love those fan headers. I actually removed the stock fans and shroud from my Strix 1080 Ti and run dual 140mm fans connected to the PWM headers as exhaust from my case (NCASE M1, pulling air/heat away from the card instead of blowing down onto it) and it works great.
The 2080 Ti is crazy expensive as it is. I may sit this gen out.
I really like Asus but if I do decide to upgrade to a 2080 Ti (if I get a Pimax 5K Plus forVR), Asus has dropped themselves out of contention... Unless they can get their prices to a reasonable level.
The sensible thing has been and seems to continue to be to wait a generation to upgrade your GPU. I'm not sensible though.
@@Safetytrousers I can understand that. Not always sensible myself, especially when it been over 2 years since the last generation. BUT $1,250+ GPU can go a long way motivating you into sensibleness. 😉
Unless you are desperate for 4k 60fps+ on all the recent AAA games, you'd have to be bonkers to not just get a 1080 ti.... raytracing is gorgeous but going back to 1080p won't cut it in a space where enthusiasts are spending over a grand on a single GPU... Writings on the wall. Once the early adopter craze wears off, these won't sell much.
In Jay's video, the extra fan connectors on the card were present on the non-TI and not present on the TI. Looks like it's the exact opposite here.
Probably this feature is not finalized yet and we're seeing mostly pre-production models sent to reviewers at this point.
Nonetheless, these are ridiculously priced compared to other variants from other board partners.
Thanks for the video :D
Could I ask one question,
What do you use to display benchmark tests? (graphs I mean)
I wont overlay for now ill edit it in while talking about the graph.
Thanks,
Love you TTL
GTC
It's so hard deciding what card to get with the current pricing. Realistically you could get a reference founders edition and a waterblock and backplate for less price than most AIB 20 series cards. I think the pricing is just insane on the new series.
Another great video tom, glad you let asus know their pricing is around £300 too much :D.
You have got to be joking. $1400+ for one graphics card. WOW! I guess there were people that paid that much for a Titan graphics cards, so I guess there will be people that will be willing to pay that much for these graphics cards. I guess we have to ask ourselves, is the price of that one graphics card worth the money you will pay for one component just to game. For me, if money were no object, I wouldn't bat an eye about paying that much for cutting edge stuff, but money is an object so I just can't even. lol
and mustard cable at end of the card so ugly.
Only one percent of pc gamers will actually buy these at current prices.
Prices are that high because OCUK have no issue scalping their customers. Once they're commonly available the price will drop. Just look at OCUK right now, they have basic Palitt 2080TI's they're listing for £1,399, Scan lists the same card for £1,199. Ebuyer have the OC Strix listed at £1,350.
OCUK have been awful recently with pricing on GPUs. Hell! I remember when coffeelake came out and stock was super thin, they decided to bin a bunch of chips and sell them in brackets going up to a grand! The moment there's a hot product they are the first e-tailer to leave you laying in a bathtub of ice wondering why your kidney is missing.
Overclockers have a 1080ti for £580 at the moment. That is not awful pricing, it's the cheapest in the UK.
Safetytrousers As I said in my original post, they price things fairly once commonly available, but when items are in short supply they defiantly adhere to the fluid supply and demand pricing model, i.e Scalping.
I have had 3 strix cards. All 3 had fan failures in under 2 years. Average case temp under load was 40-45c. I had been a diehard Asus customer for many years but have moved on to Evga now. Still use the Asus motherboards though.
omg... what price, you are totally right, nice card, but is it worth that much more over the other AIB cards
Very candid outlook on it , Glad to see someone putting it into real world terms
I really wanted a 2080ti stirx from Asus. But the price difference is way to big for around 1% better performance. So i have order a msi 2080 ti trio x instead.
Why would anyone get a 2080 when the 1080ti is the same performance for way less money? The 2080ti is faster sure 30% tho for the INSANE price ? I mean you could get yourself 2 1080tis for that and have money left over for a CPU.
I have an MSI 2080ti Gaming X TRIO on order. My 1080ti Gaming X TRIO w/8700K can barely do 60fps on 4K. So for me it's worth it and I don't mind paying the premium price if I can get 60+ fps in 4K on Ultra. Plus, it's nice to have the latest and greatest.
Two words, LATEST GREATEST!
@@sascharommeldelarosa8490 yes mate you better spend them drug money while you can.
The cheapest new 1080ti I can find is about £620, several at about £720 and one (on Amazon) at £830. The 2080 is not way more than that. Support for SLI is very patchy and there are other reasons for wanting just one GPU. The 2080ti is the best performing gaming GPU there is. If you want to have the best that is it.
ocuk 1080ti £579
The prices are only going up. Just wait until the 25% tariff kicks in.
The thing is, Turing doesn't really scale with temperature anyways so there is less incentive to invest in overkill cooling.
And if I spend 200€ extra on cooling, at that point I can go with a custom water block and have change left over.
i have the ROG STRIX 1080 Ti - wouldnt buy again due to excessive mark ups by asus. I'd go zotac or evga maybe msi
since msi got rid of the red accent. I will never buy an rog product again thing is so overrated
It would have been nice if Asus redesigned the looks of the Strix 2080ti as it’s a whole new generation of GPU.
It just looks like my Strix 1080ti OC with the exception of a few little things. Pretty boring considering.
Everything related to RTX is disappointing. Sure the performance of the 2080ti is impressive but usually cards that cost “Titan money” are. That’s why they call them Titans.
I don’t think anyone should buy these cards. Theres no reason they should cost this much.
Their taking advantage of the pc community at the risk of killing pc gaming for ridiculous profits.
Nvidia saw what pc enthusiast and miners are willing to pay and decided to raise the prices....period.
I honestly don't think these card manufacturers understand that the majority of gamers have whole rigs that cost 1500 dollars!!! This is price gouging plain and simple!! 1200 dollars!!! that price shouldn't even exist for a freakin graphics card!!!! Corporate greed at its worst!!! Thanks Nvidia for making a whole line of graphics cards for 1% of the gamers out there!!! I will NEVER pay 1000 for a freakin graphics card, especially when I can get a 1080ti pre-owned for 450$. I could get 2 for less than 1000!! !@#@$%^&*())__!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clock speeds vary due to the temperature. Recently put my Strix 1080 on water and it's running stable at 2088 and memory at 10800. Reacing around 45c.
Is there any difference for this "RGB header" in the graphics card and the one from the ASUS ROG motherboard ?
So I’m looking at buying a new gpu. Was looking at the rtx 2080 over the 1080ti because they are about the same price (Nvidia reference vs EVGA and Asus cards) was curious if the reference is worth saving nearly 100$ over the aib cards for the rtx and if this is a good card choice for 2k ultrawide.
Informative as ever. Great review OC3D.
The only real point of the 2080 and the 2080ti is to make the 1080 and the 1080ti cheaper. The prices are an absolute joke and I have a Rampage 5 extreme and a strix 1080 so already willing to pay the ASUS tax but the current pricing is just silly.
So true, after years i finally got a job and wanna get an all new rig. But there's no way in hell i'm playing those kind of money for a gtx, so it's 1080ti for me.
This or the gaming trio ?? They are same price from where iam buying
I bought the Asus rog 1660ti to run my new LG 32 inch 1440 144hz monitors and couldn't be happier. Yes I bought 2. Works amazing with my recording software program's and I don't need my reading glasses anymore! lol. I am actually gonna buy a game and learn how to play it with help from my son. should be fun. There is a market for these amazing video cards and thanks for the review.
my belief is they didn't buy that many from Nvidia and just charged a large amount to cover costs and are focusing on the 10 series cards for now.
i also say "Ace us" not "A zeus"
Actually it's pronounced "Ah-Soos"
Here in Switzerland the prices of the RTX 2080 and the GTX 1080 Ti are the same, but still too high... 1050 CHF (converted to dollars 1050$)...
Hello Tinytomlogan,
I would like to know, if the new 2,7 Slots cooler graficcard design (like this strix) will fit in a NZXT h200 case.
Or will it interfere with the power supply shroud?
Greetings from Cologne (ger)
I am looking to upgrade price i know is bad but is it worth for me to upgrade from a 1070 to a 2080 ? i am running a i7 4790k cpu 16gig 2400 ram ddr3 looking to boost Game performance a bit not sure if the cpu is a bottle neck for me and what too upgrade first would love some input
It's almost like they had banked on the cryptoboom and then when it collapsed
-they created an initial shortage & tacked on some RTX tech that they had planned for the next series......
Looks like my Maximus X Formula board will be getting a 1080TI instead.
I love ROG but cannot afford this series at this point, thanx for the great presentation TT.
it comes to something when the gpu costs more than the rest of the pc build. I just built a pc with 8700k, strix z370e mobo, 16gb 3000mhz ram, 360mm AIO, 256gb Nvme & a Coolermaster h500m for just under £1000.
These prices are insane, yo. Imma have to pass until next year or major price drops.
For people with one of the three 4k 144hz monitors the RTX ti is THE ONLY option if you play old games like me but still want the 4k getthe 1080ti/RTX2080
Haven't watched whole video yet and have commented on pricing elsewhere (Jayz) but wanted to clarify quick point. Jay, in his review, says it it is the 2080 that has the fan headers on the card and the Ti doesn't. You're saying it is the Ti that has them and not the 2080. Which is which?
10 series card for me 1070ti atm is my prefered choice not too exspensive lots of performance for the money should see me good for another two years at least.
Thing is your money should give you more performance than what you settle for. Graphics cards shouldn't cost this much, something has gone wrong.
1070 ti will last for 5 years at least... That card is a beast
The price I paid for New videocards(Best Buy): AMD HD5870($400USD) , Nvidia EVGA GTX 670FTW($400USD) looking @ the new Nvidia RTX 2070 ($599USD) the whole RTX line is way overpriced, its like nvidia switched the names around & we the consumer are paying for a higher teir..... RTX 2070= RTX 2080 ect.
Once again!Love the honest review Tom👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🥃
1:46 I think you might have messed up here. It's the Ti that is missing the fan headers. Asus had problems with their first batch of Ti cards
When will the 2080 restock?
$1400 could literally get you 2 1080ti cards in many places. I just can't wrap my head around this. Anyways, thank you for another great review and honest words Tom.
I think the problem here is people will pay this price, why would they lower the price yet it wont happen.Nice video again Tom.
Prices of GPUs and DDR4 will probably hurt PC gaming. The cost of entry is too high. Lots will not bother and stick to consoles. Less PC gamers is not good for the sector.
I am in the process of building a Ryzen based PC on a ROG Stryx B450 board to replace my trusty old i5 2500k. For now I will stick with my cheap little 1050ti I got as a stop gap. It does okay for 1080p most of the time. If the next AMD GPUs are faster than 1080ti but not as fast as 2080ti, I will probably go with them if the price is right. Nvidia are taking the piss these days with prices.
Any reason why your videos are in 50fps and not 60? Curious
yes it happened in my country they sale it at 20 to 28 million for ASUS ROG and EVGA models
What is the proper connections to use for 3 monitor Nvidia surround on the ROG STRIX 2080TI? It keeps crashing out when I click surround configure.
Using 2 DP and 1 HDMI. Or 2 HDMI and 1 DP. Do I have to use the USB-C instead and not a combo of HDMI/DP?
Thank you kindly for any assistance anyone can provide.
Most people, as in about 90% of us cannot afford or simply won't spend that kind of money on a GPU. Who is Nvidia really trying to fool here? This is simple and as clear as day. Nvidia has no GPU competitor until AMD gets their act together. So they waited longer than ever to release their next generation and waited till people really started bitching about it and then threw a crazy price at the wall to see if it would stick. And of course you get that 5 to 10% of people that always pre-order for whatever reason. I'm not saying it's a bad business move, because it's not. But it is shiesty as hell and reveals Nvidia's true colors when it comes to their priorities. ASUS isn't to blame really. They have to pay Nvidia first then research and develop their cooler and then on top of that try to turn a profit.
Looks like the price is down to ~1200$ US. Do you think that it has fallen to a point to make it more reasonable?
I love this guy. Makes me feel proud to be English.
Kiechi Morisato why? He’s just talking. He isn’t doing anything special or English. 😂
Villainous foreigner Because he is so English in his mannerisms and choice of words. It's kind of comforting as someone who's living abroad away from England. And he seems like a genuinely nice guy.
Kiechi Morisato ohhh lol. Stay safe brother.
Good rant, fully agree.
Looks like my 1080Ti will have to last another year or two.
Sir im trying to build a new gaming pc.. should i go for RTX 2080 or GTX 1080 ti. i have budget to go for both.. can you please suggest me an option. i want this pc to be future proof too.. pls pls help
If you want future proof that is going to mean RTX and DLSS options so Id say grab the 2080
OC3D TV thnx :)
Good to see you calling Asus out on this one. Perhaps you need a 'more money than sense' award.
For £1500 id rather have a 4K monitor 3x GTX 1080s and give 2 friends an upgrade as well.
Ive had a GTX 480, GTX 680 and GTX 780. These rising prices limited me to the GTX 1070 at launch and because of the mining bubble 'm left without an upgrade path with ~£500 to spend 2 years later. No other PC gamer I know in person is even willing to spend that much so I have no idea how this business model makes sense.
I can watch something like LTT and feel like I'm being sold something, this though is legit. Quality stuff and honest reviews. big gg's oc3d
The prices are insane. Enough said
Isn't it the 2080ti that doesn't have the fan connectors ? That's what another reviewer said and when u spin them around together the 2080ti doesn't have them ?
Correct.. I believe the 2080 has them but not the 2080ti..
I'm so happy I've become older and wiser regarding purchasing ;) the correct wording is nvidia you're taking the utter p**s! But seriously I'm happy if everyone goes out and buys these cards and demand is sky high as I can then pick up a 1080ti cheaper :) great video mate
Thanks for the honesty on the price of the card Tom. Its far too much money and I have the strix 1080ti and I bought it at release
I love my Asus 1080 Ti ROG Strix OC and I really wanted to put the Asus 2080 Ti ROG Strix OC in my new build but I totally agree the price is ridiculous. No matter how good it is it's not worth £250+ extra over the already over priced 2080 TI's. It's almost double the price what I paid for the 1080 Ti and certainly not worth an extra £600+ and I am so disappointed. BUT...I'll still probably buy it 😂
Thats it, Asus their prices are just insane. Absolutely insane.
I can afford this, but still wont pay it for it.
The other branches MSI/Gigabyte are almost as good (like 5fps lesser) and almost €300 cheaper.
Jesus christ.
Actually they are just as good. The MSI Trio cards are in some reviews a tiny bit faster than the Asus cards, sometimes a tiny bit less. It's the silicon lottery. Besides, you will not notice a 1-2% difference anyway.
The strix has the best cooling though...
Jesus MLG Not really. It's great but e.g the MSI Trio is just as good.
Should i buy the Asus rog strix 2080 ti or the founders?
Thats something only you can decide (especially with no actually info from you on what where or why)
Worst thing. Some even remove the aircooler and slap on a EKWB waterblock that costs an additional 150 euros. I still have a few months (december) before I have to decide which card I gonna buy (either a 2nd 1080TI or 2080TI) and it mainly depends on what DLSS would bring to the table. If DLSS really crank up those framerates, then I'm going for a plain NVidia FE edition..
My current 1080TI (strix non-oc version) isn't fast enough for 3 2560x1440 monitors with a 40+ fps. I 'play' simulators (Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, Prepar3d, ETS2, ATS) and I had to switch temporary to a single Acer X34P (3440x1440) monitor to have 40+ fps. But unfortunally, most simulators don't work well in SLI.. So come on, DLSS..
Same with the new 9700K/9900K processors. Same story basically, but my current rig has a skylake (6700K). So the diff with the 9000 series will be bigger than if I would come from the 8700K cpu. I would love to buy AMD, but there single clock speed is lacking a bit to much compared to Intel and for most simulators that is the most important factor. I have a 'bad' 6700 that won't go higher than 4.4Ghz (I lost the lottery apparently, boy would I love to win the lottery (any) once in my life!) but rumors has it that the 9000 series are out of the box close to the 5 Ghz limit.But I recon that the frequencies of the 9900K samples are are 'leaked' are carefully selected processors..
Who remembers the flagship GeForce 6800 Ultra were about 600 € in 2004?
Good shout out Tom... this is just ridiculous... imagine the pricing on Poseidon cards now...
Poseidon -> for those people who swim in money :)
Problem with PC gaming is, you have to buy alot of stuff to enable max settings on gamings. I mean £1500 2080ti, £1k for a half descent monitor to utilize the GPU on max. GPU nowadays requires watercooling so add another £500. So thats just £3k on these 3 things only lol. People will soon be pushed back to consoles if it carries on at this rate.
Joys of PC Master Race..
Do you have any knowledge about Asus making a Poseidon version of rtx??
I know it probably cost a lot more than their rtx, but it be so awesome to have that card. 1080ti in Poseidon version was (in my opinion) the best 1080ti on market.
How do you think about it, and can you ask Asus about it?? thank you in advance.
greetings
On offer here today for 1350 for the Strix 2080ti OC...time to jump from MSI 980ti or skip this generation? (Got Alienware G-sync 3440x1440 21:9 @120hz)