Applause to Oddity Archive, for creating another video using the exact same dehydrator, and similar temperature verification method. watch UA-cam.com/watch?v=IXXVlzzqazY I must say, however, that I think he is more entertaining than I am...good job Oddity Archive!
You probably won't see this comment but I'm sharing it anyway. I immediately recognized those two Educational Dimensions Group filmstrip cassettes you have in the dehydrator. My great-grandfather worked for EDG for several years and their supplier of cassettes varied throughout their time in business but for several years the cassettes were notorious for squealing. Sometimes they'd start just after a few years too. Thanks for the video. I'm going to try this.
Oh, yes, I most certainly DID see your comment, and THANK YOU for sharing it! Do you have any interest in the contents of those cassettes? They were just examples I threw in for comparison, and not the subject of my work here, but one never knows what someone else will notice and appreciate!
Ok here's how it worked for me.I had number of 70-s - 80's cassettes of the old jam days.I thought they were "stretched" because they warbled,speed fluctuated and sometimes just stopped.Saw this video,bought the dehydrator, cooked them between 125 and 135 degrees overnight ( 10 hrs) and my test tape WORKED! was able to digitize aclean recording and put in the cloud! Moving on to a few more tapes! Thanks Convergent Mighty Frame
@RPh Tom, Thanks for your comment & question! I didn't specify that on purpose. Those who claim experience with tape baking for sticky shed syndrome say only a few hours is necessary. However, a few hours never cut it for me for these tapes, so I would bake them for 3-4 days straight. But since this disagrees with the "general consensus" for tape baking, I kept this little detail to myself, to avoid controversy. Hope that helps!
I'm also told that it's only a few hours, however, I find I get the best results if I bake them as per the temperature I specify in my video (which is not 125° F, but close... review my video at 1:07 for the exact temp I use) for 24 hours or more, and with trouble tapes, I have had to bake them for 2 or 3 days straight. Keep us posted on how your tape baking goes!
@@ForgottenMachines Thank you! I will try with some unimportant tapes in my collection before I move to mess with my favorite ones. Thank you, again! And sure I will keep you posted!
Great! Oh, and flipping the tapes should not be necessary at all. Heating in a dehydrator is even, not like a frying pan where only one side gets heated. Glad you found this video useful! We shall await to hear of your results...
Update: I baked a casette I had no hope for and hardly was able to record more than 2 minutes. I did what you told me and baked it for 2 days, for fun and giggles, with an elite gourmet programmable food dehydrator and I was able to recover the whole video and other family recordings I had no recolection I had and recording it right away. In fact I am downloading it right now. I am so thankfull for this instructional video and the knowledge you have shared here. I'm the family's video curator and this is a killer outcome for my parent's 50 year anniversary. Thank you, Thank you!!
In my opinion, a dehydrator. They are designed to operate for extended periods of time (days), and their optimal operating temperature is right around the optimum temperature for baking tapes, whereas a convection oven is designed for shorter duration use (only a few hours at a time), and tape baking temperature is at the lower end of their operating range. Just my opinion though. I hope that helps!
Well there's now a good sized hole in the plot of the Mr. Robot episode of which I lost interest in the series due to inaccuracies. I stopped watching the series because the premise of a particular episode was data tapes supposedly (haaah!) lost their data at 90 degrees F. I've taken colorado backup tapes from garages that routinely hit 150F here in Arizona and gotten data off of them just fine, and figured that the physical thermal overloads in air handlers and pack units would limit the ambient high temperature to something more reasonable, so attacking the thermostats was a moot point anyway. I really hate it when shows like this clearly have talented technical staff and they don't ask them. Perhaps the crew of mr robot will start using vb apps to backtrace people using the help of the internet police :P
Well, Cpro, thanks for sharing this. I appreciate your revelation here, on this show, at least. Having never watched it myself, I thankfully have spared myself of the fallacies of any episode plots. I never watched it probably because since it's debut, I've probably been working so hard on all of this real vintage tape restoration, that I simply never found the time. All for the best, I suppose.
Applause to Oddity Archive, for creating another video using the exact same dehydrator, and similar temperature verification method. watch UA-cam.com/watch?v=IXXVlzzqazY I must say, however, that I think he is more entertaining than I am...good job Oddity Archive!
You probably won't see this comment but I'm sharing it anyway. I immediately recognized those two Educational Dimensions Group filmstrip cassettes you have in the dehydrator. My great-grandfather worked for EDG for several years and their supplier of cassettes varied throughout their time in business but for several years the cassettes were notorious for squealing. Sometimes they'd start just after a few years too. Thanks for the video. I'm going to try this.
Oh, yes, I most certainly DID see your comment, and THANK YOU for sharing it! Do you have any interest in the contents of those cassettes? They were just examples I threw in for comparison, and not the subject of my work here, but one never knows what someone else will notice and appreciate!
@@ForgottenMachines Actually, yes. Do you still have them? What's the best way to contact you?
Thanks for the post! trying to "de-shed" about 30 cassettes, bought the dehydrator will post results
Thanks for this comment, Moe Donnelly! I look forward to hearing about your experience with this!
Ok here's how it worked for me.I had number of 70-s - 80's cassettes of the old jam days.I thought they were "stretched" because they warbled,speed fluctuated and sometimes just stopped.Saw this video,bought the dehydrator, cooked them between 125 and 135 degrees overnight ( 10 hrs) and my test tape WORKED! was able to digitize aclean recording and put in the cloud! Moving on to a few more tapes! Thanks Convergent Mighty Frame
@@moedonnelly1493 I am so glad this helped you. Congratulations!
such valuable information! Thank you so much! I'm about to test this out on a 7-1/2 in reel. I have a dehydrator too so I just need a few thermometers
Thank you. Let us know how it goes...
Thank you!
I watched but did not hear, how long do you bake them at 138 degrees F? thanks.
@RPh Tom, Thanks for your comment & question! I didn't specify that on purpose. Those who claim experience with tape baking for sticky shed syndrome say only a few hours is necessary. However, a few hours never cut it for me for these tapes, so I would bake them for 3-4 days straight. But since this disagrees with the "general consensus" for tape baking, I kept this little detail to myself, to avoid controversy. Hope that helps!
How much time do you use to bake an 8mm and hi8 cassettes? I have heard that is 8 hours on 125° F flipping every 2 hours. Is this true?
I'm also told that it's only a few hours, however, I find I get the best results if I bake them as per the temperature I specify in my video (which is not 125° F, but close... review my video at 1:07 for the exact temp I use) for 24 hours or more, and with trouble tapes, I have had to bake them for 2 or 3 days straight. Keep us posted on how your tape baking goes!
@@ForgottenMachines Thank you! I will try with some unimportant tapes in my collection before I move to mess with my favorite ones. Thank you, again!
And sure I will keep you posted!
Great! Oh, and flipping the tapes should not be necessary at all. Heating in a dehydrator is even, not like a frying pan where only one side gets heated. Glad you found this video useful! We shall await to hear of your results...
Update: I baked a casette I had no hope for and hardly was able to record more than 2 minutes. I did what you told me and baked it for 2 days, for fun and giggles, with an elite gourmet programmable food dehydrator and I was able to recover the whole video and other family recordings I had no recolection I had and recording it right away. In fact I am downloading it right now. I am so thankfull for this instructional video and the knowledge you have shared here. I'm the family's video curator and this is a killer outcome for my parent's 50 year anniversary. Thank you, Thank you!!
@@zambranazos I am SO happy this helped you so much! Best of luck with recovering all of your video!!!
Dehydrator or convection oven? Which one to use? Both seem to work.
In my opinion, a dehydrator. They are designed to operate for extended periods of time (days), and their optimal operating temperature is right around the optimum temperature for baking tapes, whereas a convection oven is designed for shorter duration use (only a few hours at a time), and tape baking temperature is at the lower end of their operating range. Just my opinion though. I hope that helps!
I'm lucky that I live in a dry area.
That helps some but your tapes will get sticky eventually.
Well there's now a good sized hole in the plot of the Mr. Robot episode of which I lost interest in the series due to inaccuracies.
I stopped watching the series because the premise of a particular episode was data tapes supposedly (haaah!) lost their data at 90 degrees F. I've taken colorado backup tapes from garages that routinely hit 150F here in Arizona and gotten data off of them just fine, and figured that the physical thermal overloads in air handlers and pack units would limit the ambient high temperature to something more reasonable, so attacking the thermostats was a moot point anyway.
I really hate it when shows like this clearly have talented technical staff and they don't ask them. Perhaps the crew of mr robot will start using vb apps to backtrace people using the help of the internet police :P
Well, Cpro, thanks for sharing this. I appreciate your revelation here, on this show, at least. Having never watched it myself, I thankfully have spared myself of the fallacies of any episode plots.
I never watched it probably because since it's debut, I've probably been working so hard on all of this real vintage tape restoration, that I simply never found the time.
All for the best, I suppose.
Can the pro machine discussed bake 2’ tape?