Here's Where the Juice That Powers Batteries Comes From
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2017
- Ashlee Vance explores lithium mining in Chile’s Atacama Desert.
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Mountain Dew before bottled.
Jokaine: Fiji Water underwater spring
Cocaine: Mountain dew chilean mountain spring
I just took a sip of Mountain Dew while reading your comment
Mountain Dew before harvested
it has electrolites
Nasty Acids & chemicals that destroy the earth !!
No word about the 18 indigenous communities that live in the area and whose water has been disappearing for years. Great, balanced piece of reporting, Bloomberg! No wonder this world is doomed, if it only takes a few beautiful images to convive people that all is done super responsibly and everyone is singing Kumbaja together in the evening around a camp fire.
Sucks to be them but progress marches forward no?
@@blastermaster7261 And that viewpoint is the monster that will destroy the world and any humanity we claim to have.
@@DiablueKnight yet we are here, and for that matter, I am a native. I say increasing knowledge and expanding technology is worth a couple bumps here and there. How do you think an omelette is made?
@@DiablueKnight leftism is a mental illness
@@blastermaster7261 exactly. The world has changed and will continue to change as time moves on
3:04 I couldn't guarantee it, but its pretty sure that almost 100% sure
couldn't agree more!
Chileans being Chileans 😂
Spur of the moment thing, he didn’t know what to say, he is probably not native English speaker
That's an amazing statement.
English is hard :/. We native English speakers take it for granted
"I couldn't guarantee it but it's pretty sure that it's almost 100% sure that part of your smartphone went through this pond at one point" Love it
Almost 100% could mean 90%, 97% meaning almost 100% but not quite there.
only a spoonful....it's nothing! lithium for health!
It's not easy thinking in Spanish and having the words come out in English.
Add a camera for the whole world can see you no pressure.. lol
perhaps redundant, but it still actually makes sense structurally.
Not true I work in a chemical manufacture facility as a chemical tech we make our own electrolyte fuel for these battery’s and so do most company’s idk what this guys talking about in the video. Just thought I’d share that
Screw the lithium, what is that special steel they use for the pickups? I would love to have a Tacoma with a corrosion resistant frame.
Michael Coler hilux and taco is similar
Michael Coler They coat it with Rust-Oleum and seal it with rubber
Michael Coler aluminum?
Its probably so god damn expensive that it doesn't make sense to make consumer grade pickups with it. Car companies need turn over rates as well.
Michael Coler go ahead and ask toyota...
Big Oil always uses these horrible polluting lithium mines as one of their talking points against renewables not worth it, glad the mainstream can see what they actually look like. Also, like he points out, the batteries are only 2% lithium, that's not very much needed per battery.
good points, i mean the mines are probably not 100% environment friendly, who really knows. But definitely way way better than extracting oil which is so damaging to the environment, specially when there is an oil spill. Looks clean
krlitos Mining has to be done for every Car produced, regardless if its gas or Electric, the difference is Electric is better for our Air/Atmosphere, then it's just a matter of developing Recycling Chemistry/ Procedure/Legislation and Power that Recycling with Renewables. Related, look up Ambri Inc. and Both their Liquid Metal batteries and New Efficient Process for refining Metals
+Big A; Indeed, and lithium batteries can be recycled. Look for video "Renault - The circular economy electric vehicles batteries" .
The process used to produce copper is the same as lithium. Saturate ground which is rich with copper sulfate with water, let it dry up in pools to crystallize. And you don't here anyone complaining about copper mines.
Big A
I completly agree and what's more important is for the batteries to be recycled the same with everything. we need to change the way we do things we can reuse recycle products fix products as well. 30% of co2 emissions come from manufacturing therefore we need to have a society that fixes instead of throwing away
“It’s got electrolytes! It’s what plants crave!”
Water? You mean like out of the toilet?
LOLOL!!!! Idiocracy!
“I like money, and boobs”
Oh wait! this one goes in your mouth
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5:16 Of course they HAD to dub a truck horn sound here, like on every other TV show.
also sounds just like ets2
😂😂 sounds like games lol
You've just ruined television for me.
wow. this narrator sounds like he does not care
Yes, he's very unprofesional with his 5 year old's questions
Expecting to learn something about the lithium production: the flamingos are losing water, the sunset is pretty, bye...
Great
The magnesium sulfide is used to separate the lithium into an aqueous solution. In addition they suck the minerals from underground and put them into pounds so they sun can dry the solution into salts. Wow you really didnt pay attention pal. I wonder if highscool was hard for you. If you finished. No offense
Finance and entrepreneurial marketing major, 3.73 gpa
@@Bloo57999 oh you're doing financing and marketing and you cant handle simple information. Lol 3.78 gpa will soon be 2.21gpa again no offense
Graduated...
U suck at knowing my life...
Mankind is so intelligent. It's amazing how far we have come making break throughs and discovering new technologies from the planet earth!
Amen👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾very true!
That's true, but it's a shame our intellignece is also killing nature :(
Never have I seen so much ignorance as you three
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Underrated comment 😂
who wants to take a dip?
A R: I was looking for a comment like this! XD
Fine cut or long cut
best article in ages
Kesmond Boats "article"
Victor .O well i should say script
Kesmond Boats it's a documentary....
Victor .O script- the written text of a play, movie or broadcast. They had to develop a script first before they even started filming.☺
Sean Flores where in hillbilly bumpkin did your corny ass come from? You’re the stupid one, doesn’t take a second glance for anyone to realize how worthless you are as a life form. Sad.
I'm doing research about the potential of recycling Lithium-Ion Batteries, and there are companies now like Li-Cycle that are expanding that process. I hope that keeps on improving.
Can you share with me please. I will not have to waste time
Do deeper reaserch and youll find child labor in lithium productions
@r33mote what would be the incentive for such a suggestion?
I'm an electrical engineer, what prevents recycling? It's just a a metal, melt it down. I understand it has carbon in it, burn that. Does the electrolyte prevent it? I've never understood why these wouldn't be completely recyclable. Is it the energy that it takes to recycle it so monumental that it's not cost effective?
@@Eastern1 So you want to waste someone else's time? 😄
This guy is so characterless. The engineer is cool.
You're a douche!
He sounds bored. Or upset that he was given this assignment.
The engineer is high on natures anti depressant.
I want more videos like this!!!
Why would anyone more videos like this, unless they want to be ignorant. The source of the juice" in lithium batteries is the energy consumed at the power that power used to charge the battery
I thought "it's out of juice" was just a saying this whole time.🤯
So many elements in one area... Truly amazing.
your body have even more types of mineral.
@@Lights480 hank from braking brad hank from braking brad hank from braking brad hank from braking brad
How was the sunset ?
Me : it was beautiful it had colors only women know
So true
@Aidan S woosh
@@bernardohenriques7342 STUPID. That didn't even fit in here.
@Happy Happy you just see the world as offensive, therefor why you're a trangender, begome white knight lady with a dick.
@Happy Happy Everything is offensive to you guys.
"This sunset's here are everyday amazing, you have all these different colours that only women know the names"
This shits hard
How
Always makes laugh when you see someone write a comment about raping our planet of natural resources.
These are the same people who go to the same schools, drive the same cars, and live in the same houses as what we all do.
I understand we do need to manage our planets natural resources i get that. But do something about it, get involved in what you preach instead of commenting on UA-cam video,s.
It is an education for us who never took school seriously when we had the time too, or of those of us did not have the chance to learn.
Peter CCR ENG - you forgot, then they throw their cigarette butt on the ground and step on it.
**videos*
Peter CCR ENG dont forget all the pollution that was released in the creation of the device they used to access the internet to make the comment
Joe wang greedy ass people that's who
Joe wang me.
This is a lot easier on the eyes than a massive open pit lithium mine.
The Flamingo ponds are upstream from the mine, they get the water first. That's why the mine has no actual impact on them.
Everyone: *complains about youtube reccomendtions*
UA-cam: "but you clicked and watched it;)"
Aaah yet human curiosity always gets the better of us .....
"...dry hot salty condition...", just like youtube comment
💀
Not one word on how the liquid becomes a battery. Nice job.
Read the title of the video
@@adwftkv3184 so what is the point of making this video?
@@vuvu3421 I guess reading the title is too confusing? The point of this video is to show you *where the juice that powers batteries comes from*
@@vuvu3421 the point of making this video is to show you that there is no guarantee, but 100% of the world's lithium present in cell phone batteries comes from Chile. They have nice sunsets and nice pink flamingos too 😅
Where the juice comes from; NOT how lithium is processed.
This video was accurate to it’s title and I quite liked the cometary on the conditions of the mine and surrounding ecological issues. Great video.
I feel like a Bond villain would own this
Not that far off.
All this talk about lithium mines killing animals just like any other mineral mine, but neglecting to notice that unlike coal, lithium is like lead in the sense that it's highly recyclable and like lead, straight mining from the ground will of course be severely reduced once there is already enough lithium circulating around the world market to viably recycle, just like how lead from lead acid batteries are typically recycled nowadays.
4G12 it’s not even mines really it’s pumped which is not as bad as coal which needs to be drilled
Who recycles them? 95% of the things we make claim to be fully recyclable yet somehow most of it ends up in the dirt regardless.
3:04 "I couldn't guarantee it but I'm pretty sure...I'm almost 100% sure part of ur smartphone battery comes from here"
Logic out the window
@@aimanghazi7043 how so??
Almost 100% Is NOT 100%... therefore he can’t guarantee it because your cheap ass could have a cheap Chinese phone with some other lithium in it
There is also ni-cd batteries. Seen them in cheap power tools.
Lmao I always thought batteries were energy shots and always drank them
I was always under the assumption that you were supposed to stick batteries up your ass. I'm supposed to be drinking them instead? You learn something new everyday.
this is mine of the future, much better than oil or coal mining
hyou zan ren carbon batteries do the same thing with no government restrictions
Until...it runs out.
Emily Pearce I know you don’t have any clue about anything but lithium is recycled and reused. At some point mining will drop severely for it and enough will be circulated around.
Except this mine doesn’t produce a fuel...
driving a prius does jack shit for the environment
Its not about actually doing anything for the enviroment. It's about looking like youre doing something.
Alex Romo
Of course just one Prius wont make that much of a difference.
But a couple millions of people driving electric cars will start impacting on the environment for sure
Alex Romo did u think it was gonna feed the environment or something? wtf logic at zero right now.
Benjamin Thomas first of all prius's are hybrids second of all how do think they are made?
Most electric cars still get their electricity from coal or oil power plants anyways.
This is a amazing video. Excellent work.
engineer tells him this is magnesium chloride, dufus says so this is lithium
6:08 I had to grind really hard for this view. But in the end, it was worth it. We supply 75% of the world's redstone.
It boggles the mind how men, begin and run enterprises like this...The logistics are humbling to consider and this is easy mining...Those gold, diamond, oil mines, and many other commodities are huge endeavors are so extensive it makes you wonder who could have done it all!...I learn something new everyday on UA-cam; After 12 years and thousands of hours, it never ceases to surprise me! Thanks youtube...:)
Crazy how a place that’s so Chile can evaporate water so quickly 😮
Quick question...
Can I drink the battery juice?
yes,you drink all liquids material,cant guarantee safety tho.
And youll become flash but make sure you charge yourself everyday so you dont get stuck in the middle of the road.
As long as you have a health insurance, you can
BYD's CEO drank his company's "battery acid" to prove it is safe.
Have you noticed that just about everything that modern society relies on is finite and will run out at some point?
ThousandFilms yea, space exploration
ThousandFilms yeah no shit this is something environmentalists and politicians debate regularly. It's easily one of the most talked about topics right now
ThousandFilms we know this and have for thousands of years and at the rate we're going we will be just fine because within the next 70 years we will be mining outside of earth
yeah, that's because everything is finite. that's like saying "everything you've ever seen has been in front of your eyes..." well, yeah, that's because we use our eyes to see haha. nothing is infinite, not even our universe. it will run out at some point. wannabe philosophers aren't logically correct most of the time.
Kyle Blackmore according to what logic and technological facts?
Nobody:
Not a single soul:
UA-cam Recommendations: *bAtTery jUice*
You clicked on It though. The algorithm knows best
- J u n i o r - at least you tried
Wow, great colours shade pools!
I had absolutely no idea it'd look that cool!!
Xbox gamers, we must take this area and protect it at all costs
Indeed
People act like we really need batteries to play... Smh
Xbox gamers:
Not
Xbox gamers,
Xbox (gay)mers
IV Stra̮n̮g̮e̮ alright smartass, back tf up. You still get the gist of what I’m trying to say. Now get back in the dark hole you came out of. Fucking weirdo
Now México has the biggest lithium reserve between Sonora and Chihuahua desert as of 2019.
I wonder how many times they can use each pond. Or is it a never ending process of making new ponds. I’d also like to know what do they do with the waste.
“....colors only women know the name of.” 😂😂😂 you’re too right man. I can’t believe Bloomberg actually left that part in lol
SHREKKEDONIONS why it’s not offensive...
@@scottking8189 peos jou ma se peos
Women can actually see more colors.
i thought it was interesting that he laughed at that joke but then made a snarky remark about it in editing, these sensitive types won't actually bring it up to your face, only passive aggressive words online :)
@@21area21 where'd u find this bullshit and eat it up? Stupid sheep
Once scientist discover how to mass produce Graphene its going to put these guys out of business
Niya Brock discovered, but glad you mentioned that.
Not necessarily, lithium has other applications and others might be found in the future as well. I know it is one of the easiest elements to fuse. Maybe their operation gets scaled back for a while but I don't see them stopping.
Niya Brock We already invented a way to mass produced graphine. There's a startup in Detroit doing it.
Whats the companies name ?
Lithium is old tech, and its a pollutant, we dont need to still produce power cells like this
Can someone please help me. I want to know how the extraction of lithium affects water levels and if it poisons the water
Canada has lithium as well, but it is in pegmatite form, not brine. Takes more energy to extract and process but a source of lithium nonetheless.
To be fair though, the comment: "colors only women know the name of" is based on science. One study suggests that as many as 50% of women and 8% of men may have the type of fourth color receptor whose sensitivity peak is between the standard red and green receptors, granting them a significant increase in color differentiation.
You learn something every day, huh.
Great video!
thanks!
There comes a time that even lithium gets to be obsolete as source for battery's. And having a contingent plan to restore the soil or the environment again by some other projects.
restore the soil? It's a desert.
Will Davis WOOOSH
Not responsible for flamingos but takes water from lagoons that flamingos use, makes sense
The Flamingo ponds are upstream from the mine, they get the water first. That's why the mine has no actual impact on them.
Once again UA-cam recommendations pull us back together !
Not me, I actually searched for this. xd
That's cool that they are able to use the sun to evaporate the water rather than having to use distillation columns.
Tesla: SQM can you ramp up production, so we can produce more batteries.
SQM : sure , just the government is trying to restrict us, and environmentalist are worried about the flamingo.
Tesla: let's breed more in captivity and problem solved.
What a great company that is fixing the environment yup no way they are just yet another soulless corporation trying to make as much money as possible.
But wouldn't be better if the pools have greenhouses with a roof which has an angle of 30 ° or something like that and on the lower part you have a container for the condensed water. It would be quicker this way or not?
For use in cars how bad is lithium for the invironment than gas
looking forward to flamingo's breeding program by Tesla 6:00
Ponds of sauce for beyond beef burgers. 100% natural.
I got a battery ad right before this video.
Lol
"that feed these flocks of stunning flamingos"... i laughed so hard at this part.. he sounded like a guy on the Onion
interesting. I am curious tho, with all this new technologies like cars and so many things that use bigger batteries and stuff, i imagine lithium is finite since there is nothing infinite. Does the world have enough of it? If electric cars become more mainstream that would definitely have and impact on all this industry.
krlitos just the reserves in the lithium triangle which is Bolivia, chile, and Argentina, the deposit is shout 5.4 million tons which is enough to make batteries for 4.8 Billion cars. Also, there are other battery technologies that are in final stages of development and we will probably have a new battery model within a decade that uses different elements.
Big A very true. I heard of a new technology that could make nuclear waste into usable batteries with the radiation output being less then a banana, obviously making it safe to humans for regular use. Although regular use would be among the lines of millions of years before it needs to be replaced/charged
There is enough Lithium underground just in "South America" for everyone in the World to have 2 Tesla-S P90D's ! Very easy material to recycle also. Also you can build batteries out of a couple other materials. Lithium is just the best one but for homes and commercial buildings we could use another battery chemistry.
Enough lithium for a long time. The percentage of lithium in lithium batteries is quite small - single digit percentage in most batteries. By the time we come close to running out of lithium we'll very likely have a different source.
Lithium is also found in seawater but the technologies of extracting it are not as far developed.
Of course Bloomberg would try to make lithium ion mining look pretty and amazing.
In Oman there is a pink and green natural pond, it may be rich of familiar elements.
Just think they use the lithium for anti depressants as well
Registered.Murse RN get me a 100 gallon trash can and a five foot straw. I’m going in!
So?
“Different colors that Only women know the names” LOL
The new WHITE "oil".
Looked green to me, but what do I know... only women know for sure
Mr Bean With you ignorance is bliss and 'tarded.
Carlos Malave maybe you're colorblind...
The white stuff is magnesium chloride. Not sure if they sell any of that.
Thats fucking racist
The "juice" in lithium batteries come from the energy consumed at a power plant of some sort somewhere. While it would take an investment of additional infrastructure, most likey most of the water ude could be reclaimed. As it's used now it's being return to to the environment, but not directly where i was pumped from.
Do birds land in these pools? Strange not to have seen any wildlife around these huge man made ponds.
This is one of the driest places on the planet. There is almost no life at all there. It is boxed in by mountains and the ocean. No birds here.
The book this guy wrote about Elon Musk is great! Highly reccomended! Great journalism mister Vance
I'm still holding faith in Core Lithium. Position is great being close to Darwin port for transport to Asia. Also having their major shareholders, Sichuan Yahua getting that 5 year deal with Tesla....I'm keen
Same thing going on in Silver Peak Nevada for decades now on a smaller scale.
"He spent years living in the void" @me and my depression
Am I the only one who noticed the pick up truck has a manual transmission? when was the last time a manual pick up truck was sold in the USA?
When people still knew how to drive. It's a rare talent now
A lot of the world still drives 5 speed. Sadly its a lost art here.
John Davolta still sell them
John Davolta its a hilux, they aren't sold in the US
John Davolta you don't get out much
Just wondering where they get that much fresh water!
can u just plugin a wire and power stuff?
Just one thing: why can't we get these awsome standard diesel Toyota trucks in the U.S.??? Would take one over Chevy!!!✌️👁️
You might be able to find a bobtail somewhere that technically meets this criteria😉
Import restrictions only apply to completed vehicles. Iconic JDM cars are often disassembled and sold as kit cars, so if you're handy with a wrench, you can order the engine parts and assemble it yourself. Or pay someone else to do it for you
0:33 probably cheerful because he has a hard liquor bottle in his car.
So they use hydrofracking?
A way lot better an safer then oil ! That beautiful radioactive green color !
I just wanna know what would happen if u jumped in 😂😂
ROBLOX sound effect plays : *oOf*
You get energized
you'd be pulled into the depths of the sea and never emerge
You'll be like Kick Buttowski after drinking (awesome voice) *CHEETAH CHUG*
It's a toxic substances it could kill you or cause severe burns.
Excuse sir I beg to differ: Chile has the talent, infrastructure and resources to produce batteries under competitive standards. It could even be sustainable if it took recycling into account from the start. They could also take advantage from solar energy building panels across miles of desert. What holds them back has to do with other factors.
Why bother with solar pannels taking up all that wildlife habitat when a nuclear power plant is a postage stamp by comparison produces steam and some radioactive waste as a byproduct. The latter if stored properly will never cause a problem for anyone. And can also be recycled. Solar is for houses and building where transmission is a non factor. Not for giant habitat destroying projects.
@@BlueGoblin1 Electric Vehicles in REALITY are far worse for the environment. They damage our natural habitat creating longer term pollutants. There is a real dirty side of Lithium mines. Politicians always close there eyes for the facts.
I'm surprised China hasn't invested in to the country to make the batteries
@@Hassle68 Now you know why Chile isn’t producing batteries…
The Boric government is putting time, money, energy and people into creating battery factories for large size models that can capture energy for solar plants. Tesla is not the target for Chile, if we start producing batteries its gonna be for large size batteries for factories to store energy. Now to understand why they are not worried about exploiting this area yet, the mining focuses on massive volumes of extraction and exportation to the whole world, they think that their energy must be in reaching those volumes before slowing down to produce detailed tecnologies such as batteries… Now I do think both products can be done without affecting one and other, but these guys dont want to get distracted I guess 😂
Great but this was not complete. They didn't show the completed process.
Need to visit Chile once to check this.
This only encourages my hopes about the future of graphene
there's also Bolivia as a source of lithium
ephoenix7 They have 40% of the world’s lithium.
There is no such thing as "Enviromentaly friendly" in our corporate run world ✌
At least one thing my country does right that I don't need to be ashamed of. Kudos.
Chile is better than a lot of other south American countries
Gateraid with pulp anyone?
I've *always* wondered where the exploding note 7 battery came from
Haha
Ha, ha
It came from Samsung
One element that goes to all manufacturers in the world. Only some of whom have trouble with their design, manufacturing or QA process. I got the "barely-a-joke", just wanted to quell possible misinformation.
Think about this.
WHAT SCIENTIST WOULD USE A HIGHLY UNSTABLE METAL FOR A BATTERY?
NONE OF THEM
IT WAS DONE BY WALL STREET BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE WAS ABOUT $5TRILLION TO DEVELOP
That is actually the gigantic work now!!!
We drive manual sticks all the time in Australia
I would drag race the fuck out of those Hilux in that area.
"I'm so happy, cause today I found my friends"
DJ Adams im so ugly but thats okay cause so are you
@@dreguevara2056 we broke ours mirrors, sunday morning is everyday for all I care
Any lifeguard vacancies for the pool?
4:53 I wish I could lie to myself with such conviction
Right? They have to get the water from somewhere, and they're in the middle of a desert so there's not a lot of sources. Of course they're ruining the local ecosystem, and he knows it.
"It's uh smartphone juice *moronic chuckle*" Way to fucking go Bloomberg. A+ Just some real stellar reporting going on here.