I can so relate to this. Just had a new floor put down, and it's laid down real nicely plank-wise (in terms of the overlaps), but it is borderline impossible to avoid repeated patterns in the decor - there are like 3 maybe 4 max. different printed surfaces, and them some of them rotated 180 degrees. I need 3 planks per row and approx 30 rows, and a lot of the floor will not be covered when furniture has been installed, so the pattern repeats real easily, even if the installer tries to randomize it. The floor isn't cheap, mostly because of its acoustic abilities and resilience to wear and tear. But I simply can't wrap my head around why they don't have a couple of more unique prints, because as you say, it really cheapens the look of the floor. If the installer tries to make sure the same print of the planks are further apart, they just risk making a larger scale repeated pattern across the entire floor. Do you have any tips on this? Or should the number of unique prints just be a more highlighted part of the product specifications, along acoustic dampening, weight, material, thickness, etc.?
Great Video. A recommendation: when discussing the aspect of time/money… insert the word “Value” as often as you can. It’s not that bad patterns or installs are cheap… the value is less than desired, or what was paid for, or what was agreed upon. Businesses run on resources (time, money, effort) and value. Savings are derived from reputation where trust is the currency.
Random, as in avoiding placing the same grained pattern next to each other? It’s explained @6:55, “the rule of thumb is that you always open three or four boxes and you’re pulling random,” I’m assuming he means pulling random from that pile of planks.
I just had 1,100 sf of vinyl plank floor laid in 50 or half offset and it looks awful! All I can see is H patterns with the floor print so busy and mis aligned on top of it… I absolutely hate it. Hired someone new to literally rip out a 2 week old brand new floor to replace with quality new one in a random pattern. 3 bedrooms and hallway done so far, 2 living rooms to go…. Biggest stress and $9k down the drain. Do your research. Don’t stagger waterfall, third offset, half offset. Random is a way to go.
No matter how hard you try and make it look random, it will never be random. Because it’s not random. The boards are all the same length. You can avoid blatant patterns like stair steps and the dreaded “H” but any professional will tell you the same thing; in a big enough room no matter how hard you try, your eye will see the boards being the same length, as patterns. If you don’t want this don’t buy vinyl/laminate. Also, opening multiple boxes (along with about half of the other stuff listed on the instructions) is completely pointless. -16 years installing.
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I can so relate to this. Just had a new floor put down, and it's laid down real nicely plank-wise (in terms of the overlaps), but it is borderline impossible to avoid repeated patterns in the decor - there are like 3 maybe 4 max. different printed surfaces, and them some of them rotated 180 degrees. I need 3 planks per row and approx 30 rows, and a lot of the floor will not be covered when furniture has been installed, so the pattern repeats real easily, even if the installer tries to randomize it. The floor isn't cheap, mostly because of its acoustic abilities and resilience to wear and tear. But I simply can't wrap my head around why they don't have a couple of more unique prints, because as you say, it really cheapens the look of the floor.
If the installer tries to make sure the same print of the planks are further apart, they just risk making a larger scale repeated pattern across the entire floor.
Do you have any tips on this? Or should the number of unique prints just be a more highlighted part of the product specifications, along acoustic dampening, weight, material, thickness, etc.?
Great Video. A recommendation: when discussing the aspect of time/money… insert the word “Value” as often as you can. It’s not that bad patterns or installs are cheap… the value is less than desired, or what was paid for, or what was agreed upon.
Businesses run on resources (time, money, effort) and value. Savings are derived from reputation where trust is the currency.
Bazzer , you rootin’ legend, thank you for this!
But at least give us a visual what the pattern you recommend
Good information. Do you have a video of how to do the random pattern?
Random, as in avoiding placing the same grained pattern next to each other? It’s explained @6:55, “the rule of thumb is that you always open three or four boxes and you’re pulling random,” I’m assuming he means pulling random from that pile of planks.
This repeat of pattern is very difficult to resolve if the box of 6 planks has only 3 patterns and you have 100 boxes.
Good brands will generally have about 6 to 10 patterns. I'm looking at a product that has up to 30 patterns.
I just had 1,100 sf of vinyl plank floor laid in 50 or half offset and it looks awful! All I can see is H patterns with the floor print so busy and mis aligned on top of it… I absolutely hate it. Hired someone new to literally rip out a 2 week old brand new floor to replace with quality new one in a random pattern. 3 bedrooms and hallway done so far, 2 living rooms to go…. Biggest stress and $9k down the drain. Do your research. Don’t stagger waterfall, third offset, half offset. Random is a way to go.
The H happened to me. In the middle of job. How can I hire you to fix it please???
You didn't explain at all HOW to create the random pattern.
Okay. But they provided examples. Make it as the example. This IS a greatly explained video for me.
Thank you so much for your expertise.
I was looking for this information. Thanks a lot for the video.
I was here to understand good patterns.
No matter how hard you try and make it look random, it will never be random. Because it’s not random. The boards are all the same length. You can avoid blatant patterns like stair steps and the dreaded “H” but any professional will tell you the same thing; in a big enough room no matter how hard you try, your eye will see the boards being the same length, as patterns.
If you don’t want this don’t buy vinyl/laminate.
Also, opening multiple boxes (along with about half of the other stuff listed on the instructions) is completely pointless.
-16 years installing.
My laminate flooring came with four different lengths of planks. Strange that you never came across that in 16 years.
@ I’ll be completely honest, and with all due respect. I don’t believe you when you tell me you have a laminate floor with 4 different length boards..
How about more showing less talking? Who cares what not to do you should be showing what to do just saying if you're going to make a video
Because that’s not what the video title said this was going to be…?
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@@fritz2259 Just saying if you’re going to complain about it…
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@@fritz2259 Fritz, stop being shook.
Waste of time!
No help at all. Bunch of jibberish
How can we you? Happy to assist directly if our video does not provide the information you seek.
I'm a builder , what they say makes sense.
@@kingdomfor1 good for you
This was an extremely helpful video by very professional people
I mean… if you couldn’t comprehend what they were saying, that kinda sounds like a you problem.