@@alfredhinton8792 That extra press turn makes the one turn 4 debilitates+focus/attack set up work for massive damage against most encounters. It's why I didn't really bother showing off any other boss
@@ToadtheGreat1 yeah, even at fully maxed out stats and level 250, a bad Root of Evil will just have you lose. You just have to hope he doesn't use it first and follows it with a High King
Lucifer: Hey, wait a minute you and that sword of your look familiar. You don't happen to know a demon lord general named sparda. Do you? Dante: Ummm....ya he's my dad. What about it? Lucifer: LMAO, dude, I used to be his college roommate for accounting.
@@jaffinator2166 RIGHT?? That was the thing I was dreading the most. I think he didn't because I went pass AI thresholds a bit too fast. But one dekaja and that High King combo would've ended the fight
@@markhovscrch4050 the dps battle with this guy is a huge thing. If he decides to use Root of Evil, which he never did, and rng is not on my side (say he does 90% or 75% damage) and then a High King, it's GG even at max defense and full debilitates.
Considering the fact that the very first battle of hard mode is a coin flip as to whether you win or not, there's no such thing as being over prepared.
@@xenosaga8436 of course, I've lost a fair share of times to the two Kodamas. And to be fair, if he went with Root of Evil, EVER, that would've been a potential loss
@@shuragear525 For me, it was the birds on the world map. I think they're called Zhen. If it's a group of 4 and they get a turn first you're dead. They have a wind attack that hits the entire party.
@@xenosaga8436 I think the worst I got it was in my first or second time playing, in Normal diff. Getting back to the Labyrinth save point after I finished exploring the whole first kalpa (like 30~45 minutes) and got ambushed by 6 ghosts who ALL used Kamikaze on the MC
@@shuragear525 I think I know where you're talking about. Yea that happened to me too. I remember one of the lower Kalpas with the damage floors. Didn't think I'd been hurt that much, got ambushed and immediately killed. I think I'd been doing all the kalpas at once so I lost a couple hours of progress. Stopped playing for a while after that...
Something's off about this, he didn't use Mediarahan halfway through and didn't spam high king and root of evil I beat him on hard too but on my initial playthrough of the remaster actually, so I didn't have extra turns
@@cptwigglefuffle I originally beat him on the ps2 version, that took me months and it was my second cycle, though I didn't really know what I was doing. Someone else did the math, the reason I skipped Mediarhan and some worse skills is because I kept blasting through AI thresholds with big damage. The point he usually uses Mediarahan was surpassed by Dante at one point, which lead to where he did two High Kings instead
@@shuragear525i mean...you technically dont destroy him lol. and since its pretty much canon SMTVV is the sequel to the TDE it can imply lucy was holding back to some degreee since he still gets "stronger" after eating JHVH
I beat Lucifer today in Maniax, I have to try Chronicles battle but I don't feel like playing Amala Laberynth for a while, I am going to get the 4 endings I have left, it was a though fight specially because I completely forgot I kept War Cry in Demifiend just for that fight and had to read that skill existed, it was really hard because if one of my demons died and he decided to go for Dekunda + Dekaja I couldn't do anyrhing
@@dylendye7410 yeah, you either get good luck or get the worst imaginable outcome. I did all endings before this one, so I really pushed these demons to be as strong as they are
@@keybladeciel3716 More than 10 years ago I had it on the ps2, on my second playthrough I accidentally went for that ending and got hard stopped by him for months before I finally beat him. This is revenge
@@raymilbelmont2521 So in New Game plus (any version) if you have completed every graveyard replay battle in the Labyrinth of Amala and go to the first burial site in the first Kalpa, a Cerberus takes you to a secret area that rewards you with it. You need to get the Black Visor in the... 4th Kalpa, I believe, then when you read the graves, you can challenge most bosses in the game. You know it's completed if you have a "Won in x turns" under the "Here lies -boss-". And you keep your progress between New game plus reruns. So once you can enter the kalpas, you can get your 5th press turn
I prefer Pale and Red Rider for the other slots past Beelzebub they have the most important resistence to ailments/instakill while are customizable so you can pass Hades Blast for them.
@@1cortar I generally went with this party as a sort of brag. Vishnu is a bad choice for end game because he has no ailment resistance at all, so stuff like Baal's Bane or Root of Evil are consistent issues. But these are the strongest demons you can get. Personally, I just use Daisoujou because Meditation and Prayer.
I should do the same in the HD Remaster. To this day, I blame Sega for making Dante $9.99 DLC instead of putting him in the game without forcefully going to the eShop just to purchase the 'Maniax Edition'. At least it wasn't unforgivable like the time they nearly made Super Sonic *on-disc DLC* in Sonic Forces, only for the backlash to refute the decision, and make both Super Sonic and Shadow free DLC. Also, Toshiyuki Morikawa and Reuben Langdon voice Dante in the HD Remaster(Japanese and English, respectively).
@@masterseal0418 I still heavily dislike that the gaming community took the path that Asura's Wrath took for DLC. Having the entire final chapter as DLC
And here I am suffering on NG hard mode, only difference is that is not my 1st time playing hard mode or nocturne but lets see if this time I don't quit. I don't have the extra press turn.
@@raulrojas9253 Unfortunately the extra press turn is only on ng+ It helps if you don't use mitamas to buff demon stats. Levels go up to a hidden 250 (again, I believe). If you use the dlc grinding zone, you can more easily buff a demon until they have max stats and the levels to multiply them. Also Dante/Raidou is actually super good at max stats since he has pierce
@@tronixchl2004 From High King, I believe so. Not Root of Evil. That one deals % damage at random. It also has a chance of attempting to inflict one of 3 status effects (if he attempts, it will 100% hit anyone who isn't immune). At worst, it can deal 90% of your current hp as damage and if he uses it before a High King, you get to redo the two final boss fights
Strange question, especially on this sort of video, but I could literally never get a straight answer via googling, do Demi Fiend's stats and levels carry over to NG+ runs in Nocturne? I know your compendium does, so your demon's levels and stat boosts would stay, but everything about Demi-Fiend's stats was crazy unclear when I looked it up.
@@SilviaHellsing No, the only thing you get for Demi Fiend is the choice of a new jacket... that you shouldn't get because it gives you an extra magic and speed point, while the hoodie gives strength and speed. But every new game you must redo your Demi Fiend's grinding... BUT there are a few differences. Mainly the ability to fuse demons who's levels are above yours. I also believe they moved the compendium a little back? can't remember. So basically I spent this cycle as a sort of "just be there, pass the turn and survive" role (the three null status, null light and dark, the passive that prevents back attacks, etc etc) until I switched up for Lucifer and Kagutsuchi. You know, since the demons carried me
@@shuragear525 Well, if the skills that Demi-Fiend's demons have in SMTV are available in SMT: Nocturne, I already have an idea of what team I'm gonna build for him, lol. Kind of a shame his stats don't carry over, but oh well, as long as I have enough Macca to summon my OP demons, I'll be fine.
@@SilviaHellsing Not exactly. I would honestly spoil the magatama, level requirement (each skill needs a minimum level to be used) and plan ahead there. Nocturne has a huge flaw to the amazing variety, magic decreases in value as you level up, while physical moves don't. At max buffs and debuffs, Vishnu's Hades Blast hits a nasty 3k on all enemies with a chance to crit. Meanwhile Metatron's Fire of Sinai (strongest spell) hits for a 1,200 damage, hoping for a second hit to deal almost as much. EDIT TO ADD: To add to this, there is no Mind Charge, only Focus (phys charge), Pierce only affects physical attacks and is the only way to deal more than 100 damage to Lucifer and Freikugel is an Almighty Phys that bypasses all resistances to hit, but is a physical move mainly, while Almighty damage is resisted by a bunch of bosses
@@shuragear525 Me on my way about to have Pixie, Girimekhala, and Cu Chulainn get the best physical skills I can give them while making sure their stats all get maxed-/j
@@SilviaHellsing Hey, if it works, it works. What worked for me is looking for the best abilities in the game and spreading them among the Mitamas. Victory Cry, Pierce, Life Drain, -kaja skills, Debilitate, Dekunda/Dekaja, the 4 environment skills, etc etc. Mitamas can fuse with any demon and result in the same demon. So you can transfer them pretty easily and costumize your best stuff
@@efrayen4497 I wish they would add the Hard Type mod as dlc to the ps5 version, I played it way back and only ever got past Thor, but couldn't continue. I haven't played the Vengeance version, just the og on the switch, though I want to. SMTV is a bit of a mixed bag for me. On one hand, it's a solid entry with interesting demon interactions and a pretty interesting plot. On the other, it feels kinda bland and straightforward, no real dungeons, the school section was a fake out "haha, you almost thought this game would have a super cool dynamic, fooled you". I also have mixed feelings about the level up system. Like how you deal and take more damage based on your level to the enemies and vice versa (I believe it wss concluded that 5 level differences was the cap?) meaning the real way to win isn't to have better strategy, but to grind a few levels and change absolutely nothing (most of the time). But the music is interesting, I like the characters, the essence and fusion stuff is super cool, Minman are cool, the Nahobino is an interesting character and is so highly costumizable that it ends up working out as a fun game to play. I only stopped because the Switch just... isn't a great console for a game like this
@@shuragear525 oh yeah, completely got ur point, it just felt like the same Law vs Chaos vs Neutral thing with no unique stuff. Though you should really check Vengeance out, it's like a totally new game compared to the OG smt V. Although it pains me to say it, its kind of similar to persona 3-5 with its human bonding schtick they have (you'd know if you played it.) its clear they decided to experiment with this game. My gripe with it is that (minor spoiler) Yoko's reason is kind of.. Wack? Like, the car bit she talks is a bit flimsy and ridiculous, but shes a great character despite that. Of course, its totally up to you. But I'd play it just for the Mara dialogue in mid-game (Example: "I'd think we fought till kingdom come!" Actual dialogue from Mara in the game btw)
@@efrayen4497 I am definitely gonna check it out, I wanted to stream it with a friend (ironically the reason I made this video was to share it with him on whatsapp, from my ps5). I am currently playing Reload after many full playthroughs of P3P and FES. But once that is done, I'm want to put my free time into SMTV for fun.
@@Danny4bidden Yeah, once you complete every battle replay by using the Black Visor on every burial site, you get it. It saves progress through ng+ so I did all of them on previous playthroughs. It makes bosses in hard diff a lot easier
@@chrislin6570 As they said, HD Remaster for ps5. Dante's skill "Son's Oath" was nerfed in the International release of SMT Nocturne and made to only buff all damage by 50%, while Raidou's also added Pierce. I believe they also had some changes that made Lucifer use Diarahan once per battle at under 20% hp, but I haven't checked in a while. The Remaster added Dante and rebuffed the skill in a dlc
@@shuragear525 Oh that's why Dante had pierce. I could have sworn Dante was pretty much unusable in the original for this fight because you couldn't get pierce onto him.
@@re9029 In case the fight went on or I needed to recast debilitate or Prayer on emergency. Makakaja would have Life Drain absorb enough mp to counter his resistance and I would be getting about 80~100 mp back with Vishnu. At that point, Beelzebub was also not really doing much, but neither was Vishnu and I'd rather use the half turn on Vishnu to have Dante and the MC get an extra action
What happened to the root of evil skill? Lucifer doesnt "choose" to use root of evil. He begins using it like every two turns i believe once you hit a certain health threshold. Ill have to add up the damage you were doing but something seems off
@@nickanderson8869 He probably was going to the turn he used two High Kings, the ai starts both of those moves after about 40k~ damage, but he didn't seem to want to go for it. Ironically, I replayed it in Merciful Difficulty to check something about the ending and he used it. But yeah, got weirdly lucky
@@shuragear525 you might have out paced him. Lucy uses root of evil at the 60% mark.He might have hit the 40% threshold and you killed him before he could use root of evil. Cause you were doing a shit ton of damage with rebellion. Were you max level? Also, you were playing the Dante expansion, I know Lucy doesn't have certain skills in that version.
@@nickanderson8869 I don't super know if they made all the changes with Dante, this is the HD remaster so I believe he is just there as DLC. As for levels, I am grossly overprepared since I grinded for the platinum, so I am beyond level 99 with all the party members. I don't think I am near the 250 level max, but this was me trying to be as optimal as I possibly could
@@MrMeowstic7 This would be the 6th. I did every ending before this one and in every cycle I grinded more beyond max for my chosen demons. This battle was my official platinum trophy, but unfortunately I need to go through the TDE again with Raidou to get the last ending icon
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The extra press turn really makes a difference on hard difficulty
@@alfredhinton8792 That extra press turn makes the one turn 4 debilitates+focus/attack set up work for massive damage against most encounters. It's why I didn't really bother showing off any other boss
The fact that you were this overprepared and the double high king still almost party wiped lmao
@@ToadtheGreat1 yeah, even at fully maxed out stats and level 250, a bad Root of Evil will just have you lose. You just have to hope he doesn't use it first and follows it with a High King
It does damage in % that's why
@@re9029 Root of Evil does percentage-based damage, not High King. High King just does a lot of fucking damage lmao.
Look! even Dante from the Devil May Cry™ Series is here!
Lucifer: Hey, wait a minute you and that sword of your look familiar. You don't happen to know a demon lord general named sparda. Do you?
Dante: Ummm....ya he's my dad. What about it?
Lucifer: LMAO, dude, I used to be his college roommate for accounting.
Glad they fixed his lack of pierce.
Lucy not using his basic, Dekaja, or Dekunda is surprising
@@jaffinator2166 RIGHT?? That was the thing I was dreading the most. I think he didn't because I went pass AI thresholds a bit too fast. But one dekaja and that High King combo would've ended the fight
@@shuragear525 yup and TBH my heart skipped a beat when he went for double High King with no Rakukaja active but thankfully you survived!
@@jaffinator2166 I did have Endure on the MC, to go at it a few extra turns, but coming back from that is not easy at all
Smt vv Lucifer must be having ptsd from that fight.
Mastema: Y-You brought the Demi fiend the accursed foe of the Great Will Nahobino!?
If you do Freikugel those two high kings could blast you tirelessly.
@@markhovscrch4050 the dps battle with this guy is a huge thing. If he decides to use Root of Evil, which he never did, and rng is not on my side (say he does 90% or 75% damage) and then a High King, it's GG even at max defense and full debilitates.
Considering the fact that the very first battle of hard mode is a coin flip as to whether you win or not, there's no such thing as being over prepared.
@@xenosaga8436 of course, I've lost a fair share of times to the two Kodamas. And to be fair, if he went with Root of Evil, EVER, that would've been a potential loss
@@shuragear525 For me, it was the birds on the world map. I think they're called Zhen. If it's a group of 4 and they get a turn first you're dead. They have a wind attack that hits the entire party.
@@xenosaga8436 I think the worst I got it was in my first or second time playing, in Normal diff. Getting back to the Labyrinth save point after I finished exploring the whole first kalpa (like 30~45 minutes) and got ambushed by 6 ghosts who ALL used Kamikaze on the MC
@@shuragear525 I think I know where you're talking about. Yea that happened to me too. I remember one of the lower Kalpas with the damage floors. Didn't think I'd been hurt that much, got ambushed and immediately killed. I think I'd been doing all the kalpas at once so I lost a couple hours of progress. Stopped playing for a while after that...
Imagine an ant dealing you 1500 demege with a basic attack while you can't do 500 with a single stomp.
Ever be in the Amazons?
@@GodDamnRider Fortunetly no.
Beelzebub design is dope
Something's off about this, he didn't use Mediarahan halfway through and didn't spam high king and root of evil
I beat him on hard too but on my initial playthrough of the remaster actually, so I didn't have extra turns
@@cptwigglefuffle I originally beat him on the ps2 version, that took me months and it was my second cycle, though I didn't really know what I was doing.
Someone else did the math, the reason I skipped Mediarhan and some worse skills is because I kept blasting through AI thresholds with big damage. The point he usually uses Mediarahan was surpassed by Dante at one point, which lead to where he did two High Kings instead
This is maniax version Diarahan and the Dekaja Effect on Root of Evil is only in the Chronicles version.
@@sombex1631 really? Huh I didn't know that. I had Raidou on my team so I guess that explains it
You kicked his ass but I find it lame he just disappears after you beat him.
@@SuperBeautifulNoise Even Forneus has a big explosion and he just fades away like I beat some random small demon
@@shuragear525i mean...you technically dont destroy him lol. and since its pretty much canon SMTVV is the sequel to the TDE it can imply lucy was holding back to some degreee since he still gets "stronger" after eating JHVH
I beat Lucifer today in Maniax, I have to try Chronicles battle but I don't feel like playing Amala Laberynth for a while, I am going to get the 4 endings I have left, it was a though fight specially because I completely forgot I kept War Cry in Demifiend just for that fight and had to read that skill existed, it was really hard because if one of my demons died and he decided to go for Dekunda + Dekaja I couldn't do anyrhing
@@dylendye7410 yeah, you either get good luck or get the worst imaginable outcome. I did all endings before this one, so I really pushed these demons to be as strong as they are
Damn, that was Batman levels of prep just to put freaking _Lucifer_ in his place.
@@keybladeciel3716 More than 10 years ago I had it on the ps2, on my second playthrough I accidentally went for that ending and got hard stopped by him for months before I finally beat him. This is revenge
Why do your turns start with 5 press turns instead of 4?
@@raymilbelmont2521 So in New Game plus (any version) if you have completed every graveyard replay battle in the Labyrinth of Amala and go to the first burial site in the first Kalpa, a Cerberus takes you to a secret area that rewards you with it.
You need to get the Black Visor in the... 4th Kalpa, I believe, then when you read the graves, you can challenge most bosses in the game. You know it's completed if you have a "Won in x turns" under the "Here lies -boss-". And you keep your progress between New game plus reruns. So once you can enter the kalpas, you can get your 5th press turn
Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne would never take advantage of our innate gullibility.
I prefer Pale and Red Rider for the other slots past Beelzebub they have the most important resistence to ailments/instakill while are customizable so you can pass Hades Blast for them.
@@1cortar I generally went with this party as a sort of brag. Vishnu is a bad choice for end game because he has no ailment resistance at all, so stuff like Baal's Bane or Root of Evil are consistent issues. But these are the strongest demons you can get. Personally, I just use Daisoujou because Meditation and Prayer.
@@shuragear525 Daisoujou is one of the best demons I just remove him because of his incompatibility with Hades Blast.
I should do the same in the HD Remaster. To this day, I blame Sega for making Dante $9.99 DLC instead of putting him in the game without forcefully going to the eShop just to purchase the 'Maniax Edition'. At least it wasn't unforgivable like the time they nearly made Super Sonic *on-disc DLC* in Sonic Forces, only for the backlash to refute the decision, and make both Super Sonic and Shadow free DLC.
Also, Toshiyuki Morikawa and Reuben Langdon voice Dante in the HD Remaster(Japanese and English, respectively).
@@masterseal0418 I still heavily dislike that the gaming community took the path that Asura's Wrath took for DLC. Having the entire final chapter as DLC
And here I am suffering on NG hard mode, only difference is that is not my 1st time playing hard mode or nocturne but lets see if this time I don't quit.
I don't have the extra press turn.
@@raulrojas9253 Unfortunately the extra press turn is only on ng+
It helps if you don't use mitamas to buff demon stats. Levels go up to a hidden 250 (again, I believe). If you use the dlc grinding zone, you can more easily buff a demon until they have max stats and the levels to multiply them.
Also Dante/Raidou is actually super good at max stats since he has pierce
@@shuragear525255, not 250, but very close
@@shadexvii3975 I should've assumed, it's always 255. But yeah, I'd ballpark it at 170 or so.
Sorry havent touched SMT 3 in like never, Rakukaja can mitigate damage from High King or Root of Evil?
@@tronixchl2004 From High King, I believe so. Not Root of Evil. That one deals % damage at random. It also has a chance of attempting to inflict one of 3 status effects (if he attempts, it will 100% hit anyone who isn't immune). At worst, it can deal 90% of your current hp as damage and if he uses it before a High King, you get to redo the two final boss fights
Strange question, especially on this sort of video, but I could literally never get a straight answer via googling, do Demi Fiend's stats and levels carry over to NG+ runs in Nocturne? I know your compendium does, so your demon's levels and stat boosts would stay, but everything about Demi-Fiend's stats was crazy unclear when I looked it up.
@@SilviaHellsing No, the only thing you get for Demi Fiend is the choice of a new jacket... that you shouldn't get because it gives you an extra magic and speed point, while the hoodie gives strength and speed. But every new game you must redo your Demi Fiend's grinding... BUT there are a few differences. Mainly the ability to fuse demons who's levels are above yours. I also believe they moved the compendium a little back? can't remember.
So basically I spent this cycle as a sort of "just be there, pass the turn and survive" role (the three null status, null light and dark, the passive that prevents back attacks, etc etc) until I switched up for Lucifer and Kagutsuchi. You know, since the demons carried me
@@shuragear525 Well, if the skills that Demi-Fiend's demons have in SMTV are available in SMT: Nocturne, I already have an idea of what team I'm gonna build for him, lol. Kind of a shame his stats don't carry over, but oh well, as long as I have enough Macca to summon my OP demons, I'll be fine.
@@SilviaHellsing Not exactly. I would honestly spoil the magatama, level requirement (each skill needs a minimum level to be used) and plan ahead there. Nocturne has a huge flaw to the amazing variety, magic decreases in value as you level up, while physical moves don't. At max buffs and debuffs, Vishnu's Hades Blast hits a nasty 3k on all enemies with a chance to crit. Meanwhile Metatron's Fire of Sinai (strongest spell) hits for a 1,200 damage, hoping for a second hit to deal almost as much.
EDIT TO ADD: To add to this, there is no Mind Charge, only Focus (phys charge), Pierce only affects physical attacks and is the only way to deal more than 100 damage to Lucifer and Freikugel is an Almighty Phys that bypasses all resistances to hit, but is a physical move mainly, while Almighty damage is resisted by a bunch of bosses
@@shuragear525 Me on my way about to have Pixie, Girimekhala, and Cu Chulainn get the best physical skills I can give them while making sure their stats all get maxed-/j
@@SilviaHellsing Hey, if it works, it works. What worked for me is looking for the best abilities in the game and spreading them among the Mitamas. Victory Cry, Pierce, Life Drain, -kaja skills, Debilitate, Dekunda/Dekaja, the 4 environment skills, etc etc. Mitamas can fuse with any demon and result in the same demon. So you can transfer them pretty easily and costumize your best stuff
I wanna see something like this on Hardtype.
Also, whats your opinion on Vengeance?
@@efrayen4497 I wish they would add the Hard Type mod as dlc to the ps5 version, I played it way back and only ever got past Thor, but couldn't continue.
I haven't played the Vengeance version, just the og on the switch, though I want to. SMTV is a bit of a mixed bag for me. On one hand, it's a solid entry with interesting demon interactions and a pretty interesting plot. On the other, it feels kinda bland and straightforward, no real dungeons, the school section was a fake out "haha, you almost thought this game would have a super cool dynamic, fooled you". I also have mixed feelings about the level up system. Like how you deal and take more damage based on your level to the enemies and vice versa (I believe it wss concluded that 5 level differences was the cap?) meaning the real way to win isn't to have better strategy, but to grind a few levels and change absolutely nothing (most of the time).
But the music is interesting, I like the characters, the essence and fusion stuff is super cool, Minman are cool, the Nahobino is an interesting character and is so highly costumizable that it ends up working out as a fun game to play. I only stopped because the Switch just... isn't a great console for a game like this
@@shuragear525 oh yeah, completely got ur point, it just felt like the same Law vs Chaos vs Neutral thing with no unique stuff. Though you should really check Vengeance out, it's like a totally new game compared to the OG smt V. Although it pains me to say it, its kind of similar to persona 3-5 with its human bonding schtick they have (you'd know if you played it.) its clear they decided to experiment with this game.
My gripe with it is that (minor spoiler) Yoko's reason is kind of.. Wack? Like, the car bit she talks is a bit flimsy and ridiculous, but shes a great character despite that.
Of course, its totally up to you. But I'd play it just for the Mara dialogue in mid-game (Example: "I'd think we fought till kingdom come!" Actual dialogue from Mara in the game btw)
@@efrayen4497 I am definitely gonna check it out, I wanted to stream it with a friend (ironically the reason I made this video was to share it with him on whatsapp, from my ps5).
I am currently playing Reload after many full playthroughs of P3P and FES. But once that is done, I'm want to put my free time into SMTV for fun.
@@shuragear525 sounds fun! Just remember to never, EVER do a luck build. That build took me weeks to do and months to finish.
@@efrayen4497 A WHAT? That sounds like the funniest way to play
What happened to the scripted heal?
@@Antasma1 someone did the math, I dealt so much damage in onr turn that I skipped to the next phase and he instead went for double High King
How the frick did you get 5 turns, homie!??
Ng+ bonus from boss rebattles hidden throughout the labyrinth of Amala
@@Danny4bidden Yeah, once you complete every battle replay by using the Black Visor on every burial site, you get it. It saves progress through ng+ so I did all of them on previous playthroughs. It makes bosses in hard diff a lot easier
Is this nocturne remake or old ver
Its remake. The Dante Dlc for remake changed a Dante skill to match him to Raidou with having pierce
@@chrislin6570 As they said, HD Remaster for ps5. Dante's skill "Son's Oath" was nerfed in the International release of SMT Nocturne and made to only buff all damage by 50%, while Raidou's also added Pierce. I believe they also had some changes that made Lucifer use Diarahan once per battle at under 20% hp, but I haven't checked in a while. The Remaster added Dante and rebuffed the skill in a dlc
@@shuragear525 Oh that's why Dante had pierce. I could have sworn Dante was pretty much unusable in the original for this fight because you couldn't get pierce onto him.
Wait why did you cast makakaja so much?
@@re9029 In case the fight went on or I needed to recast debilitate or Prayer on emergency. Makakaja would have Life Drain absorb enough mp to counter his resistance and I would be getting about 80~100 mp back with Vishnu. At that point, Beelzebub was also not really doing much, but neither was Vishnu and I'd rather use the half turn on Vishnu to have Dante and the MC get an extra action
Now can you do Lucy but with an Extra Turn?
@@dsuffers3032 Always could, but only in NG+ after doing all the burial sites
What happened to the root of evil skill? Lucifer doesnt "choose" to use root of evil. He begins using it like every two turns i believe once you hit a certain health threshold. Ill have to add up the damage you were doing but something seems off
@@nickanderson8869 He probably was going to the turn he used two High Kings, the ai starts both of those moves after about 40k~ damage, but he didn't seem to want to go for it. Ironically, I replayed it in Merciful Difficulty to check something about the ending and he used it. But yeah, got weirdly lucky
@@shuragear525 you might have out paced him. Lucy uses root of evil at the 60% mark.He might have hit the 40% threshold and you killed him before he could use root of evil. Cause you were doing a shit ton of damage with rebellion. Were you max level? Also, you were playing the Dante expansion, I know Lucy doesn't have certain skills in that version.
@@nickanderson8869 I don't super know if they made all the changes with Dante, this is the HD remaster so I believe he is just there as DLC. As for levels, I am grossly overprepared since I grinded for the platinum, so I am beyond level 99 with all the party members. I don't think I am near the 250 level max, but this was me trying to be as optimal as I possibly could
@@shuragear525 nah, in the chronicles dlc Lucifer has a healing spell. Its a little different. It's crazy the amount of hurt you did.
@@nickanderson8869a healing spell? He has diarahan Lol he heals back to full
How many cycles?
@@MrMeowstic7 This would be the 6th. I did every ending before this one and in every cycle I grinded more beyond max for my chosen demons. This battle was my official platinum trophy, but unfortunately I need to go through the TDE again with Raidou to get the last ending icon