ATC has a professional, yet very calming, voice. Glad everyone is safe. A Canadian goose ain’t a small thing for a small engine! Edit: My bad, I missed Victor’s opening that plainly said A319! Nope, no small engine there!
Finally an American ATC with clear communication I've seen so many bad examples that this one really stands out for clear terminology and clear pronunciation
Well done ORD ATCs! That brought back some unpleasant memories of Sully's USAir(Cactus 1549, was it?) flight. Tell you what - the person that can design an engine that won't ingest birds is going to be an incredibly wealthy person! Thanks to VASAviation for a splendid job reporting this!
A bird strike on takeoff isn't usually that bad, as usually the aircraft loses at most one engine, and the other engine can produce enough power for the aircraft to climb. In the case of Cactus 1549 both engines were lost.
@@dovahseod really? I would think it would be very difficult to fly with just one engine, but what do I know about engine mechanics? I'm not a nervous flier or anything; I just found the call a little creepy because of what happened 12 years ago.(jeez, has it really been that long? I remember it like it was yesterday! )
They could just put a grate in front of the engine, but that would disrupt airflow and reduce engine efficiency. Not worth it to avoid a situation that's already incredibly rare.
Those 10 lb birds are all over the place this time of year. I can only imagine how scary it is to hit one. There's a part of me that wonders what the damage looked like.
Victor - like the highlighting, but instead of blanking everything could leave background partially transparent to make it easier to maintain orientation.
Yea what you did here was a bit disorienting for a second like, 'what is happening to the video!' I'm sure there are other ways in pointing out a target.
Question for any air carrier pilot from a controller and general aviation CFI -- the airplane just took off, so the pilots know the weather already. How distracting is it to go get the arrival ATIS versus the benefit? Seems to me that it's adding to the flight crew workload with little if any benefit, but am I wrong?
Full ATIS is extremely distracting/unnecessary in these situations. There’s a lot going on with notifying flight attendants and dispatch, running checklists, formulating a plan, etc. Give me the essentials...wind, altimeter setting and which runway I’m gonna land at.
@@VASAviation • Ohhh I see now. I “assumed” (and you know where that gets us) with 53 souls on board, that had to be an Embrauer (sp) or one of the MadDog series.
Yea COVID and more likely due to lack of demand to that small town that's more bustling in peak winter for the ski resorts. Even UAL cancelling multiple frequency flights in order to consolidate.
I’ve been one of 60 on an A320. Pretty much had a full 3 seats each to spread out on. Couldn’t believe it at the time (pre covid) was brilliant for us passengers 🤣
Another great video and visuals. As others mentioned, I would tweak how a target is pointed out and continue improving captions... Still looking for a video with nearly error free of captions! Sheesh I'll do it for free but I'm sure it's it's prob not needed. 🤷🏻♂️
Handled nicely.....great job all involved .... The only thing I have wondered is all the years of bird strikes why they have not came up with a screen or something that covers the the front of the engine to stop them from getting to the Fan blades..... must be something they could do this day and age
A modern jet engine pulls in huge amounts of air. Putting a screen in front would create way too much drag, ruining the efficiency. Also, if the screen gets damaged from the impact, it can possibly get sucked in by the engine, causing an even bigger problem.
Wouldn't it be smarter and more economical to have a bird strike on landing? 0:52 They no doubt ran the _unregular engine vibrations_ checklist. Seems like it's always night there.
I got to give the controllers the better score on this one. Sometimes the pilots are better sometimes the controllers and I am a expert at sitting here comfortably with 0 flying experience.
The pilots don't have to be in top *radio* form during an emergency, they busy. Especially during one that he knows for a fact can take his plane out of the sky in seconds as proven by Captain Sully a decade ago. (An icy Lake Michigan ain't no Hudson River either!) I definitely agree on the controller though. I'd expect a lot from busy Chicago Center and he exceeded expectations.
It's because the engine was still operating, not good enough to continue to their destination but good enough to get them back on the ground safely. The aircraft was not in immediate danger so it wasn't a mayday situation but they needed to get on the ground as soon as possible so it was a panpan.
The correct phraseology for a positive response would be “affirm” to clearly differentiate it from “negative”. In many countries where English is not the native/local language they adhere to far more rigid phraseology to reduce the risk of any misunderstanding, but in the US things tend to be far more “freeform”. So long as both parties have a clear understanding of the message being passed there is not a problem (until there is, and then the lawyers have a field day) but my own experience here (as a PPL-A) is that ATC tend to be far more rigid with their terminology when dealing with obviously non-native English speaking pilots.
Not going to lie, im not going to get anywhere near an airplane for atleast the next decade, with the covid crap and the grounding of so many aircraft and the amount of money the airline industry has lost, i just dont really trust the companies to have actually spent any money on maintenance or upkeep of the aircraft, so you are having aircraft carrying passengers after they have sat out in the desert and got a quick and cheap inspection before going back into service.
Can I just say, he's one of the clearest pilots I've ever heard. And not just because of the lack of static, but he's enunciating so precisely
"decimal"
3:53
"the vibe now is the upper end of normal"
Oh hell yeah brother 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
American 1844 pilot is so easy to understand... very experienced & well spoken, you can tell.
The pilot knew it was a Canadian goose, as it said "sorry" on the way in.
I'm all aboot this comment eh!
Lmao I love this
That goose was an absolute hoser
Canada* goose, not Canadian goose.
They could be a Canadian Canada goose who are we to deny their identified citizenship lol
"we got high vibe" - great mindset to have during an emergency lol
💃🏻 🦢 ✈️ 🤣🤣🤣
Underrated comment
ATC has a professional, yet very calming, voice. Glad everyone is safe. A Canadian goose ain’t a small thing for a small engine!
Edit: My bad, I missed Victor’s opening that plainly said A319! Nope, no small engine there!
Or a big one.
Indeed! ALL ATC's should sound like him! Fantastic job!
Compared to 380s tho
It was 4 Canada geese that took down US Airways 1549 (aka Miracle on the Hudson, also an Airbus A320 series).
Finally an American ATC with clear communication
I've seen so many bad examples that this one really stands out for clear terminology and clear pronunciation
The professionalism never ceases to impress me. Well done all!
"It's normal now but not normal enough to continue " thats me right there
There was a "...heh..." between but and not! I loved that!
ALL ATC's should sound like him! Fantastic job!
It was "we just took a full goose--a Canadian Goose" not four geese as the thumbnail indicates.
Well done ORD ATCs! That brought back some unpleasant memories of Sully's USAir(Cactus 1549, was it?) flight. Tell you what - the person that can design an engine that won't ingest birds is going to be an incredibly wealthy person! Thanks to VASAviation for a splendid job reporting this!
A bird strike on takeoff isn't usually that bad, as usually the aircraft loses at most one engine, and the other engine can produce enough power for the aircraft to climb. In the case of Cactus 1549 both engines were lost.
@@dovahseod really? I would think it would be very difficult to fly with just one engine, but what do I know about engine mechanics? I'm not a nervous flier or anything; I just found the call a little creepy because of what happened 12 years ago.(jeez, has it really been that long? I remember it like it was yesterday! )
They could just put a grate in front of the engine, but that would disrupt airflow and reduce engine efficiency. Not worth it to avoid a situation that's already incredibly rare.
Absolute fantastic visuals for the viewer. Perfect video if you ask me. Thank you very much. And I can add that I am hard to please :) You did it :)
That’s the first time I’ve heard one of our Coast Guard Auxiliary birds in the air too… forgot we’d have our own call signs for ATC.
Yeah, caught my ear for sure. I just shared the video with the pilot and his passenger. I think they’ll appreciate it!
RIP Savage Geese
Well done, pilots! Those geese cause such havoc! Big boom in the cabin as well!
Those 10 lb birds are all over the place this time of year. I can only imagine how scary it is to hit one. There's a part of me that wonders what the damage looked like.
Nothing smellier or grosser than a birdstrike. Except possibly an actual crash. Have seen that a bird does when it meets a wing or an engine.
I feel sorry for the goose... We need to stop flying jets through bird sanctuary.
I am glad everything was fine, cause they were nowhere near the Hudson....
I think someone already pointed it out..took a "full" goose instead of "four" goose
Yeah, I think four Canadian geese would have been the end of that engine.
I was wondering too why he said 4 goose not 4 geese
For real, the "goose" instead of "geese" kind of gives it away, too.
"And we all know how painful that can be." -David Letterman.
@@karlhungus1569 guessing (hoping) it would be a similar video either...
I like the way you blacked out the screen to only show the plane that was talking on the radio at any given time.
A fed engine is a healthy engine
May I suggest a circle or rectangle or bracket thing around the plane in comm. instead of blackout everything else.
The in-flight meal will be roast goose.
Awesome work brother. keep it up!!
Apparently Carl Sagan is alive and well and working as a departure controller at KORD.
Lots of those Sully's Devils around the Chicago area, especially to the north of the field.
First!...lol. The full goose!
LoL same
You should be up there "slipping the bonds of earth"! Did you fly Phantoms, out of KLUF?
Should we call catering or is that a cutback due to Covid?
I guess he saw the gooses innards and determined it to be full
I guess he saw the gooses innards and determined it to be full
Victor - like the highlighting, but instead of blanking everything could leave background partially transparent to make it easier to maintain orientation.
I think it really helps this way. Thanks for the feedback ;)
Yea what you did here was a bit disorienting for a second like, 'what is happening to the video!' I'm sure there are other ways in pointing out a target.
I was here to comment the same thing: I love the idea of highlighting the aircraft calling but leave the background there.
whats the meaning of victor?
Great video keep it up!
I love your videos!!!
"The full goose".... should now be a fun Thanksgiving phrase for us. : )
American 1844 got Victor? So VASAviation was onboard this flight? 😜
That pilot on the radio on Alaska 27 was vibin harder than AAL1844's busted engine
this is a really well done video
They were goose, precision: CANADIAN goose... I blame Canada. LOL
We hate them too. Seriously.
5:03 you forgot.... your name ;-)
Just kidding, thanks as always for your great videos! :0)
Not to be picky, but it is Canada Goose, not Canadian Goose. Great job on the video, Victor.
Geese really hate Airbuses
Canadian geese hate everything.
I am going grammar nazi... I'm am so sorry... plural of goose is goose.
Is the goose OK? Asking for Peta
when a plane ingested birds, we could smell fried chicken smell coming from the engine as we got out of the plane. rip birds
C90 controllers are impressively chill
Cobra chicken strikes again!
Last time I was this early, ILS wasn't a thing.
😆
Once past the “OH SHI-“ part the comms sound practically routine.
Do you have any Audio on the Cub that got intercepted after breaking the Wilmington TFR on Saturday? Had to land at Chester County Airport.
Question for any air carrier pilot from a controller and general aviation CFI -- the airplane just took off, so the pilots know the weather already. How distracting is it to go get the arrival ATIS versus the benefit? Seems to me that it's adding to the flight crew workload with little if any benefit, but am I wrong?
Might have just changed... these recordings are compressed and even in 10-15 minutes weather can change... twice.
Full ATIS is extremely distracting/unnecessary in these situations. There’s a lot going on with notifying flight attendants and dispatch, running checklists, formulating a plan, etc. Give me the essentials...wind, altimeter setting and which runway I’m gonna land at.
I agree, but it’s just part of the standard STC protocol. Juan.
Yeah just pass on the essentials or notify of significant changes to wind or visibility.
@@bengoldstraw1904 Retired airline pilot here. I agree with your comment.
Good to see sometime using the PAN PAN declaration and not going straight for MAYDAY
Mayday? Why that’s the Russian New Year! We’ll have a big parade and serve hot hors d oeuvres...
@@karlhungus1569 The tower, the tower, Rapunzel!
Well now, apparently his goose was cooked 🤔
Damn birds just flying all willy nilly in the NAS. You know what would fix that? Just regulate remote id for the birds.
Full Goose!
53 people on an A319...
Covid
@@VASAviation • Ohhh I see now. I “assumed” (and you know where that gets us) with 53 souls on board, that had to be an Embrauer (sp) or one of the MadDog series.
Yea COVID and more likely due to lack of demand to that small town that's more bustling in peak winter for the ski resorts. Even UAL cancelling multiple frequency flights in order to consolidate.
I was on a 737-700 with 7 passengers BWI to MDW.
I’ve been one of 60 on an A320.
Pretty much had a full 3 seats each to spread out on. Couldn’t believe it at the time (pre covid) was brilliant for us passengers 🤣
Another great video and visuals. As others mentioned, I would tweak how a target is pointed out and continue improving captions... Still looking for a video with nearly error free of captions! Sheesh I'll do it for free but I'm sure it's it's prob not needed. 🤷🏻♂️
Tough crowd. English isn't his native language...
Handled nicely.....great job all involved ....
The only thing I have wondered is all the years of bird strikes why they have not came up with a screen or something
that covers the the front of the engine to stop them from getting to the Fan blades..... must be something they could
do this day and age
A modern jet engine pulls in huge amounts of air. Putting a screen in front would create way too much drag, ruining the efficiency. Also, if the screen gets damaged from the impact, it can possibly get sucked in by the engine, causing an even bigger problem.
@@karelvandenborre8836 I suppose, but sure
they could come with something. Or should I say they Need to
This video - ua-cam.com/video/Wm4Z7dAfrP0/v-deo.html - is a very detailed answer, from a commercial 737 pilot.
@@karelvandenborre8836 or worse, debris gets trapped on the screen and starves the engine of air
A gymnasium of air per second being pulled through good luck with that!
I live close to where this happened didn't hear anything from this till now
Wouldn't it be smarter and more economical to have a bird strike on landing?
0:52 They no doubt ran the _unregular engine vibrations_ checklist.
Seems like it's always night there.
"Talk to me Goose!"
I got to give the controllers the better score on this one. Sometimes the pilots are better sometimes the controllers and I am a expert at sitting here comfortably with 0 flying experience.
The pilots don't have to be in top *radio* form during an emergency, they busy. Especially during one that he knows for a fact can take his plane out of the sky in seconds as proven by Captain Sully a decade ago. (An icy Lake Michigan ain't no Hudson River either!) I definitely agree on the controller though. I'd expect a lot from busy Chicago Center and he exceeded expectations.
🤣🤣 full, four. Either way it kinda messes up your day.
Pilot requested ARFF - tower sent him to gate, or did I miss something?
I hope the geese are OK.
That number one engine is goosed.
I guess the goose flight was squawking VFR...
No transponder equipped
That’s a lot of fuel on board, must have been a long sector planned....
Mars maybe? To beat Musk
How is that a PANPAN and not a MAYDAY?
It's because the engine was still operating, not good enough to continue to their destination but good enough to get them back on the ground safely. The aircraft was not in immediate danger so it wasn't a mayday situation but they needed to get on the ground as soon as possible so it was a panpan.
@@tallman11282 yeah, I kinda posted that comment before I listed to the entire audio. Makes complete sense now :)
Great question!
@@blancolirio yup, to which @tallman11282 provided a great answer
Mayday? Why that’s the Russian New Year! We’ll have a big parade and serve hot hors d oeuvres...
Dang canadian honkers they are all head home hear. snow melting major in Ontario 18°c yesterday
Lol “good afternoon”
Is it though?
You can tell the pilot flies in Europe a lot.
Can geese be suicidal?
The pilot negative saying "affirmative" instead of yes?
The correct phraseology for a positive response would be “affirm” to clearly differentiate it from “negative”. In many countries where English is not the native/local language they adhere to far more rigid phraseology to reduce the risk of any misunderstanding, but in the US things tend to be far more “freeform”. So long as both parties have a clear understanding of the message being passed there is not a problem (until there is, and then the lawyers have a field day) but my own experience here (as a PPL-A) is that ATC tend to be far more rigid with their terminology when dealing with obviously non-native English speaking pilots.
Well I guess them geese are cooked.
Instead of the camera movement and blackout can you just do a white circle around the aircraft?
🤣 Echo, echo 😂.
Title incorrect--ingested one goose.
Full goose. Not 4 goose.
Brickyard. Not jet car.
Love your posts!
DPJ, Delta Private Jets, has the call sign JET CARD.
It's Jet Card for DPJ
1 views 9 comments seems legit youtube
Exactly
Those systems need to count views from all around the globe. They're likely aggregated and sent in batches.
That poor bird. 😢😢😢
This is fake. The goose is a paid actor. LOL! 😂😂😂
Read back incorrect.
Naw, let’s blame it on drones. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Why don't pilots every know they need to give the fuel in pounds!?
that is wrong
They didn’t end up in the Hudson this time.
Delicious 😋
Seems like America has bad luck or I just notice more American emergencies lol.
Thank goodness it was just one engine. I'm not getting any Sully-like vibes from this captain.
Their best bet is Lake Michigan if they want to pull out the Sully move I guess
Hullo
If this happened to a Boeing plane people would cry Boeing is unsafe lmao
Not going to lie, im not going to get anywhere near an airplane for atleast the next decade, with the covid crap and the grounding of so many aircraft and the amount of money the airline industry has lost, i just dont really trust the companies to have actually spent any money on maintenance or upkeep of the aircraft, so you are having aircraft carrying passengers after they have sat out in the desert and got a quick and cheap inspection before going back into service.