@@peachesandpoets yes it did... some people are now accusing him for being selfish for wanting a solo career first so it will be interesting to see what vibe it gives to Max
he reached being 6 months sober a few days ago after having issues with alcohol for the past 13 years he also posted a story about his mental health, saying he got diagnosed with a few things he didn’t know he had & implying it was some sort of manic & depressive episodes & it was showing in the logan paul podcasts & he said he wanted to make it public so if there’s people out there going through the same thing they’re not alone i think it’s very commendable that he’s taking the steps to get better & do better for himself & start a new chapter. even if you can see some “people pleaser” tendencies i don’t blame him for that at all, he got hate from the whole internet i think he’s just trying to show some growth & that he’s not that person the internet paint him out to be. i wish him the best cause i really don’t think he’s a bad horrible person like some people are trying to make him look like, he’s just a guy struggling to find his place & making mistakes as a result of that, struggling with his mental health while being in the public eye, it must not be easy & i think people should show more empathy to him & to people with severe mental health issues like Liam
agree with you -- i don't blame him at all for the "people pleaser" tendencies... def showed growth here after getting a TON of hate from the internet. not easy at all. wishing him the best, no doubt.
Fr I feel like ppl only rlly show the "aesthetic" side of mental illness on social media and portray it as if it's a cool thing but when the reality of it is shown ppl are so quick to hate and scold
4:28 I think you're greatly underestimating the grudge being held against Liam seen as there were still mass amounts of hate in response to this particular video as well as him announcing he was 100 day sober and that he was going to be a part of the soccer aid game again this year, which raises money for charity (I mean hating on somebody for raising money for children is pretty low). I'm sure this plays into the people pleasing tendencies, but that's also just something he has struggled with for a while which he is also self aware of as he's mentioned it in interviews before. I don't blame him thought because even after putting in the effort to transform his life by getting help, becoming sober again, being diagnosed and treated for several mental illnesses, making amends and taking accountability for his mistakes there are still people who won't let one interview go even though the people who were actually involved (zayn & the rest of the band) have had private conversations and seem to be on good terms. Even after all that people won't give him a break, so I think it's natural to still want some sort of outside validation after doing all that work on himself and sadly the only way he might get it is by saying things like they were valid in their hate (which I believe is untrue). Really appreciated your take on this and your extension of empathy as it can be exhausting seeing people who have already made their minds up that he's a horrible person and continue to express hate without even listening to what he's saying.
just to clarify, the soccer aid thing was just a big, completely avoidable, misunderstanding, the leaders of the event posted a really inconspicuous poster of Liam and tommy fury, that looked like it was a boxing match. which Liam then posted and it went viral as people went with the thought that it was a boxing match and proceeded to make fun of him in the most nasty way possible. if haters just took a minute to do an ounce of research, all of it could have been avoided. thankfully, when another soccer aid poster was made, a lot of people jumped to his defense, and luckily a lot of people we happy for him later too.
@@jadepersonally yes there was tons of hate when they thought he was going to fight which was very unfortunate because as you said it could’ve been avoided, but regardless there was a lot of people even after it was revealed to be for soccer aid that continued the harassment. People were complaining that ‘liam’ was posting on the soccer aid accounts and using it to promo himself (he obviously didn’t have access to the account and it was the other way around, soccer aid using liam to promo the game which is the entire point of celebrity charity games). People complained about him making the game about himself even though he wasn’t promoting his work/himself at all. It is not up to liam what is posted on the soccer aid accounts but for some reason people decided to blame him for that too.
I don't think he gotten over 1D days like the other guys did. That can fuck up his psyche and a lot of us can't understand that. 1D is still part of his identity, his life & that's all he knows! I have severe mental illness and it's really hard to live day by day out in public, but he's a public figure that got it way worse than all of us. He's alright with me but I empathize with him.
definitely, because Liam is such a people pleaser, and I don't think that's a bad thing, I just think there's genuinely so much heart in him that he just loves to make people happy. he put others before himself, that alone got him the name 'Daddy Direction.' and I think with that, came the price of his mental health. and with management, forcing Liam to be someone he wasn't, at such a young age, i think that really fucked him up, another thing is, he didn't take time to heal, I feel like he used alcohol to convince himself that he had healed, but really he was still hurting just like the others, all those bottled up things i feel, lead to that interview, as revealed by Liam in this video too.
@@jadepersonallyit’s sad but I don’t see him as genuine. He needs others to validate him. It is sad he has a long time to recover and find who he really is. He is not 1D member. That’s a job.
100% He still feels he needs 1D and hasn’t found himself. He’s more of a sponge than any of the boys. It’s such a shame because he was technically the most polished singer out the gate with 1D. Without him they wouldn’t have made it.I hope he finds himself soon.
Liam is definitely addressing the audience here, and also opening up showing he has been reflective, to those around him, who probably were ones that came up to him and have made comments directly to him. I liked all the comments that you made, Max, you were really seeing him. For what this is.❤ thank you for this video.
4:20 "he almost wants to appease people who wrote negative comments" man exactly what i sensed there and i feel so bad for him((( that's never a good thing to please ones who so easily hate on you(
I think people deal with thing very differently. Remember, Liam even though a young man still had a older woman come after him, the pressures of being made band babysitter, and learning to lean heavily on alcohol to try and cope at a young age (which got to control him quickly) hell most adults can't deal with alcoholism without help so why would any of us expect a boy too? They all had demons to fight, Liam just got a couple knock down punches. If his band mates can understand then who are we to slap our judgment upon him? He messed up! He knows it! We are all human. Liam just keep swimming toward the light, you're going to be alright.
it's really interesting to see your take on the video he posted. i watched it as it premiered, and my first thought was "poor Liam" i don't know much about him, but he seemed almost scared to come out again after everything that happened. and i don't blame him. he got A LOT of hate for what he said in the podcast. but i couldn't hate oon him for it. was it wrong? yes of course, but seeing someone who is known to struggle with alcohol making those statements with a drink in his hand(!) i knew he wasn't in a good place. i've been in a relationship with someone who also struggles with addiction, and if there's one thing i've learnt, it's that they under the influence of whatever they struggle with, they say a lot of things, that they would never ever dream about saying if they were in a good place. and the shame that comes with the realisation of the fact they screwed up, is imense. the fact that he came out, and addressed it, is very brave on his part. i do agree with you that in some parts he didn't look or sound as genuine as he maybe could've, i felt the same way as i was watching it. but i gave it quite a bit of thought, and a lot of it is because he was trying a bit too hard i think, not because he wasn't honest. part of a succesful recovery is making mends with the past, and let it go. what's done is done, and can't be undone. i just hope and pray that fans will let go of the past too, and support him, cause he deserves it. otherwise i'm afraid if he relapses again, he might not recover this time.
There are more than one important point going on in what he is saying; he knows since 1D that his fan base are teenagers girls, young lile 13 14 years old and they need to be careful, the five of them, since they were children themselves, wired to protect those young girls. That is part of their job even. Liam attempted against his life at that time. He has been very open about what is going on with him progressively, because of his training to keep inside.In the past he was trained to dont share what happened in those internal places of pain, the tender things, to forget about it. Lately he told publically that he do not feel like in 'here', that is a post traumatic disorder called dissociation. After that interview the fandom went wild against a person who already have mental heath issues that just grow since his teenager years. Of course he is looking for valdation after all, on top of it all, that is his career for which he did a lot of sacrifice already for. The love from the fandom is basically what makes them to go on. Talk about his laugh at this point, to a man who is overcoming addiction, depression and dissociation is not it, he is gonna look off because he literally is and is putting a lot of personal effort to even talk about that. We do talk about celebrities taking a step back from our humanity, what I wanna to tell you is this; at this point of Liam's life you shouldn't have even made this video. He is in a very tender state and is going online to talk about very difficult personal problems. So, he needs support, just support, nothing else. Look at how many celebrities, brilliant people we had broken down and lost.
Liam still had his walls up in the video. I think he was genuinely sorry, for what he said but letting people in. Telling people about his anger and frustration is hard for him. People need to stop being so judgmental, he’s trying to apologize for his actions and reflect on them. I will always support Liam trough thick and thin ❤️❤️
I think Liam is still finding himself and thats okay. I also think he is still in pain. I hope he finds his authentic self. I think Liam is genuine he is just a bit lost.
Perhaps it would be better to discuss his problems with a therapist rather than the whole world. Perhap s he should of just apologised saying he was going through a bad time. Perhaps he should have just started trying to write some songs like the others, instead of constantly looking inwards. Since they split up others in the band have taken the highlights big time. So it must be very difficult to try and compete. Perhaps best not to, just live Liam
Hey there! Could you some time do communication skills video of Harry and Niall this is us new york confrence? Just request but that would ve really nice and lots of other fans would love it :)
This guy needs help i have been saying it since a long time even b4 that podcast his laughs were fake and he looked depressed n that podcast made him worse. He needs help ASAP otherwise something worse can happen GOD FORBID
One thing about Max is he will be honest 👏👏👏👏👏 weirdly Liam didnt really apologize especially for the things he said about Zayn and his family. But you can see he wants to do better or convince people that he's willing to. Him not wanting to watch the podcast doesn't help coz he won't see what we saw or know exactly what he did wrong. I hope he heals and gets to a better place because he's definitely not there yet
I think it's because it's what he really feels. And, he wasn't sorry for mentioning Zayns family and speaking on gigi comments and making a joke about it 😮 It may take time, he may over time understand why it wasn't him being honest...it came across as being vindictive and spiteful especially as he was super confident that at that time Zayn would be cancelled...so he went hard on zayn as it seemedlike low hanging fruit. Hopefully, he'll be truthful in a way that he doesn't tear people down to uphold himself. Hopefully, now sober, he'll learn to balance his vindictiveness with the truth. It's a process. It'll take time.
The fact is people just want to hate him until he unalives himself. There is no rhyme or reason and nothing that he did to deserve such vitriol. People say he made mistakes but he did not make a single one publicly. If you look at what he said in the podcast it is 100% true, there are multiple videos of the creators of 1D saying exactly what Liam did. People refuse to understand that he is a human being with real life struggles. If anyone is to blame for what we see going on with him, it is his past management, his present management, Logan, and all of the terrible people who decide to bully someone to near death. It was obvious that he was suffering from substance abuse, and a mental health crisis. He has been nothing but open and honest, and that has been his Achilles’ heel. We now see him taking the blame for the wrongs that have been done to him. Psychologically that has to be unbearable. No one should take responsibility for their own abuse. His whole team needs to be fired. Hopefully he takes a note from Taylor Swift. When she did her Reputation era, she did not apologize for the things she never did. She gained her self-worth by giving no explanations, and only building her reputation.
You are being hard on him!! You keep saying he’s “ proving, proving proving’. You really are hard on Liam. You were last time too. And I’ll pretty much repeat my last comment… you seem to expect him to be a certain way instead of just accepting who he is. His honesty is not for you or anyone else to judge.
I wish these young guys would not do this. Do the rehab work you need to do because there’s no shame in this, at all. Broadcasting one’s journey in this manner simply adds to the scrutiny, which has already contributed to the alcohol abuse and so forth. This is trying to elicit sympathy and be known, again, but wasn’t that the major contributing factor…being too well known? Only to then experience the loss of fame and notoriety, and now trying to find it again. Be at peace with who you are and not who you think others want you to be. And what is with his hair style…it lacks authenticity. I sadly have to agree with Matt, that Liam is seeking external validation. It needs to come from within, and he has some further therapy to go through.
So right about the hairstyle. He seems to be trying to connect with a culture that is not truly his own (he's done this before.) A huge signal of his being uncomfortable in his own skin and not knowing who is really is. Sad. He attempted to change his face wirh surgery too, and ruined his handsome face. He looks so strange and so gaunt now. Wish he'd just be comfortable with his real self. Maybe he will become so with therapy.
@@clairecarscallen wow okay where did this come from? liam said it was something his sisters taught him when he was little, being the only boy in the family, and it made him feel closer to home, stop trying to make it something its not, its really not that deep.
i think the way he moves can be chalked up to withdrawal, and I think that's why there's so many jump cuts in the video, making it come off a bit insincere, like its scripted - but i do feel its off the dome. if you look at his promotional livestream for the video, you can see how much he struggles to keep still, he's constantly moving, playing with his hair and adjusting his seating. the live was only 25 minutes long and he could not keep still for even a minute, its abundantly clear he's struggling being sober.
I suspect he has ADHD. It woukd account for a lot of his behaviour both during and after 1D. The impulsivity and resulting awkward social interaction sometimes.
in his recent stories, he shared that he has been diagnosed with certain manic conditions and also offered some helpful tips. It's truly heartwarming to see someone be so vulnerable on the internet, especially in an environment where people can be unkind. It takes immense courage to open up like that, and it's inspiring to witness such authenticity
I believe his birthday is very near Michael Jackson. Look at any video 9f Michael Jackson getting upstaged and it looks so painful. You ask me, all this obnoxious behavior seems a definite cry for attention. But, more than that, an alleged "Hail Mary pass" out of possible desperation to outshine Zaynes new song release. Seems to me someone is tasting their first taste of karma, for alleged upstaging tricks in the past. Someone should get the memo, "God don't like nasties". Liam needs a friend who is a Cancer, they can help each other build up their individual self esteem, with less collateral damage. NOTE: For entertainment purposes only. Zayn the Capricorn is back for sure in a big way, both musically and Mentally and emotionally. Eat your hearts out shady haters. Pss. Pray for the ego death of all jealous ones. Fan from Louisiana🌻🦋🤗
I think if you look at all of the 1D boys you will see they all have issues. Some have dealt with them differently than others but DAMN! They were kids that were used by adults in SO many ways. I'm happy to see Liam getting the help he needs. Much love to him.
He is not trying to convince the outside world that he is a honest and a good person, he is trying to convince himself. The hardest part, when you are suffering from a mental disease that lowers your self worth. I hope, he gets better.
No... I have mental health issues n I dnt go out of my way to degrade n b*lly ppl...Anyone who says they wouldn't let someone around their kids coz they were born male n wear skirts is a sc*mbag and deserves every bit of suffering karma gives them...bad things happen to bad ppl..that's the law of the universe...if he wants to be happy he can try n be a better person..good things don't happen to sc*m
I think he is still very much in the struggle. I agree with another commenter that he should turn over his social media to a team. But, if he’s seeking validation, that won’t happen. I hope he can find a way to find what he needs within. I wish him the best. 💖
Good for him, he’s trying his hardest in what has been an exceptional and fairly unique upbringing. Take my hat off to all those 5 lads for navigating their lives. I don’t believe any of them have come through unscathed. Just a Mums perspective.
@@anitapricecheck9554it is ptsd, but the psychology community doesn’t even fully understand ptsd, so unfortunately any of them will get different mental health diagnoses, because the mental health community does not truly understand ptsd. Also, the power abuse they went through, that kind of trauma really messed you up, especially when you’re a teenager when it happens. Again, psychology community doesn’t fully understand ptsd, so until they do, everyone with ptsd is stuck in a very hard place. They’ve barely made progress on ptsd in 20 years.
He needs to stay off social media. It isn’t for everyone. Harry and Zayn stay off it except for career stuff and they have a team that handles that. He should do that.
Personally, I'm not mad at Liam, what he said in that interview with Paul Logan wasn't okay, but it wasn't that bad, and I still don't understand why he got so much hate. Who I'm really angry with is the fans. Liam has always been there for us, always trying to please us, make us happy, the whole Covid was more bearable thanks to his streams. He's a good, kind guy, and after one slip everyone turned their backs on him? Did it never occur to anyone that he needed help? It makes me sad.
The thing is what he said in the podcast were all true. Somehow people couldn't handle the truth. - Liam's std was the biggest selling debut single among the members - He was pushed as the frontman/first person to sing in the beginning of xfactor so thay the rest to calmly come in (watch all videos) - He was also to be the leader as revealed by the xfactor video themselves, though liam himself never said this - He was promised a band, a recent podcast revealed they kept in contact with liam since 2008 and another video from the xfactor choreographer revealed they already had the 4 other members thought out after their auditions - Gigi "supporting" zayn did not age well because when zayn needed her the most she literally dropped him - Zayn's "family" (one of his siblings/and cousin) have never been supporting of zayn's music career, posting shaddy shit about it on their ig stories - He was pushed up against the wall by one of the members(for some reason y'all assumed he was talking about his bandmates). This was literally tweeted by rebecca (their xfactor friend and competitor) before in 2021, and she also retweeted this on 1st june 2022, same day as liam's podcast, tgt with other relevant tweets. The tweet:A boyband member told me that they were being picked up and thrown against walls, when they challenged decisions! I spoke with the accused and his words were "when you make as much money as you guys do, you don't get a say in what you do in your life, you do as we say" #change - Both zayn and liam have said multiple times how bad it was in the band. Zayn said the same thing in his latest podcast and now everyone suddenly is woke. - liam has said multiple times he will play whatever character they want him to play, he got sick of it because it bled over into his normal life
@@underratedartistes7730 wow, I didn't know all of that! Can you tell me in which podcast the X-Factor thing was discussed? And where did Zayn say that? If you remember, I'd like to know more and listen to those myself. This whole thing has bothered me so much.
Liam got a lot of hate because people were foolishly hoping that 1D would reunite ““”very soon””” But those frustrated fans don't accept that the band members had problems with each other back then, which is very obvious, they were not lifelong friends when 1D was created. If Liam had no right to tell that particular situation with some former bandmate, you are absolutely right but that situation was the only relevant fact and it was the damn alcohol along with Logan Paul. And don't get me wrong, I love 1D and I want them to come back, but I know they won't do it for a long time, believe me the years that one direction has been on hiatus is nothing compared to other bands.
Child star syndrome. Too much attention and money, too early. Enter substances. Then they’re no longer A tier, and they’re only 30 … Too difficult. I worry about all of them. Harry is doing very well, but his mentions of cocaine and mushrooms make me sad.
We need to be kind with Liam, as fans. He didn't have good professionals around him to help him with his solo career and his mental health. He should change to another team which can be gentle with who he really is. I want to see him at the studio and writing new songs. That will be beatiful.
it’s interesting seeing what outsiders thought of the video, us as liam fans that know a little bit more of his personality definitely saw something different, way more sincere and genuine. in fact it had me in tears! for example, didn’t see the fake laughs as him trying to gain validation but more so cover how bad it hurt him. wouldn’t say that’s a whole act but more of a protection, i feel sorry for him
Yeah I think you may be right; may be more of a protection thing than an act. Agreed. Liam fans probably see it through a perspective of a guy who was hurt.
@@maxpbeaumont I see Liam as "hurting" and just a little lost. I also see the little laugh differently. I felt it was a defense mechanism. If he didn't have the little laugh...it could have been tears of pain. I don't really know him well, but I think he is really hurting and in internal turmoil. He seems to be working so hard to move forward. Didn't he recently acknowledge he was diagnosed as being bi polar? I hope he gets the support he needs for his mental health and to keep sober.
All I can sense from this video is that he’s scared of the consequences. I can sense a bit of anxiety from him The hate affected him so hard because we all know how confident he used to be before that Logan thing I only hope he’s in a better place and no one deserves hate. People online are good with that because they’re anonymous, but in real life they can’t say those awful stuff…
To me he seems like his spirit is broken, he's not his usual bubbly self. Maybe he still beats himself up for what's in the past and struggles to forgive himself.
I’ve watched Liam Payne a lot these past few months and the one thing I noticed about him is the fact he seems to always try to prove himself in concerts with One Direction which probably comes from the fact that he’s probably the most unpopular member of the band.
The way "fans" have never been fair to this man is infuriating. Not saying what happened in that podcast was necessary or nice but wasn't that big of a deal and definitely not justifying so much unnecessary pure evil comments from the world. People have never shown same energy with any other boys and that's fucked up and unfair. Not saying they should hate on others cause i love all of them so much , i just want people to be less mean with Liam, it's like seeing a person struggling and put you foot on his neck still(
People are extreme but what Liam did to Zayn was bad. I’m glad the boys and Zayn got his back at his lowest. Because he didn’t do the same for Zayn. He actually back stabbed him at Zayn’s low point. Everyone calling Zayn names and mocking him even these idiots. Being so racists saying false information that he hit his gf and mom because his culture and became he’s ethnic. And all the horrible names people called Zayn. Liam still needs to find himself and stop being people pleaser.
Honestly, I've got a bad feeling about his situation... He's now in the hospital, and had to cancel some concerts.. If this goes on I'm afraid we might loose him 🙁 I know it's dramatic, but I just got a bad feeling
I don't get the outrage with the Paul interview. For years fans were pushing the guys for the truth yet when they hear it, they are up in arms. He is in a no win situation and did nothing wrong People are assholes.
i feel like most of the hate was geared to the fact that Liam came off somewhat arrogant, even though what he said was inherently true, and his comments about Zayn and his family, which, I do agree, he had no right to comment on and I do disagree with him there, but all of that really made people look over the things I feel was of importance; the truth about the mistreatment by management, the fact that that anguish made him resort to alcohol, and the fact that Logan was clearly pumping Liam with alcohol as a way to coax things out of him - especially about Zayn. which is something even Louis recognized. much less the whole internet. he really didn't deserve any of it in my opinion.
I’m glad he is not with people like you. He did nothing wrong please. He needs to be accountable and I’m glad he is. If Zayn is his so called brother he wouldn’t have say what he said. He is the one that bad talk about Zayn he is the one that brought the allegations by saying “that didn’t age well” and then talking about his family. This lead for them to make fun of Zayn and make racists comments. Ohh yes he bit up his girlfriend and her mom because he is ethnic and it’s his culture. That’s nothing to you. Also pretending 1D was formed around him when clearly it wasn’t 1D released the video right after. And I don’t even care about that. At the end of the podcast the one that got it worse was Zayn. Anyway Liam doesn’t seem genuine and still is people pleaser. He needs to find himself and be true to himself. I hope he does. Or else he won’t be happy.
@@agirlgirl2244 you sound young and like you have just jumped on the moral outrage bandwagon with everyone else without actually LISTENING to what he was saying. Luckily, I hadn't heard too much about it before I watched the interview so was able to with no bias.
I think you read h well. He is a good man and I think things went bad for him a long time ago and it will take a long time to get it all back on track If he is surrounded by the right people I have faith that he will make it but that's all up to him now. I love Liam I want him to succeed ❤️
I agree he still wants attention. I also think his jealousy took over and he is challenged by it which prevents him from expressing himself appropriately. There is reflection on his part. But again I think that a clear sincere apology that he can articulate well, would be more recognized from a sincere place.
he needed to heal, and I don't think he gave himself enough time after the band to fully heal, all the other boys took time of after the band ended (edit: minus Zayn) to find themselves, especially Louis. and right now too, i still don't think he gave himself enough time to find himself again. its clear he was very anxious to clear the air, and be on good terms with fans again, but with how strong the hate was, i don't think he'll be able to win over the majority vote like he's hoping too, and i feel like that will swallow him whole if he doesn't stay of social media
I don't particularly agree with "He could do another interview and people would forget about it". I can see why you would feel that but this fandom is not like that. He got hate for and death threats for soccer aid, he got hate an death threats even when he supported zayn on his new song AND when zayn replied to him. I wish it was as easy as a new interview and forget about the past but the fandom is just not like that
"Because that's not me..." is textbook distancing language. He's trying to separate who he "really" is from his bad behavior by framing it as though it was someone else who had done it and it doesn't belong to him personally. And while none of us can be reduced to any single one of our actions, and we certainly can't be reduced to our worst mistake, we ARE the sum total of everything we do and none of our actions can be excluded as though they don't belong to us. Because, ultimately, no one can choose our actions for us or make us do anything we haven't decided to do, and the only one responsible for what we chose is us. It might have been him in a low moment or at a difficult time, and it might be a poor representation of his character in itself, but it was still very much HIM. Denying that means you can't change anything about it, because you can't change what you don't acknowledge. Though, I do really appreciate what he had to say about cancel culture. About how it's not really intended to ostracize or exclude anyone, we don't want anyone to be banished to personal shame and regret for all of eternity, it's really just a call to accountability and the need for assuming responsibility for your actions and the impact you have on the rest of the world. It makes me feel like he had the wisdom to use this opportunity correctly and gain some perspective, rather than taking it as an attempt to actually cancel his existence and making him desperate to just get back "in", if that makes sense? He understood it wasn't a death sentence he couldn't overcome, it was a learning opportunity and used it as such.
That must have been so hard for Liam, putting your heart out on the line and being very honest and genuine is a tough a gig, and celebs get so much hatred thrown at them its gotta be hard. I'm not even famous and I find incredibly hard to just express myself warts and all. Good luck to Liam
Don’t forget to put everything thru the cultural filter of being British…any Brit will tell you how hard it is to be truly open (in the American sense) in public…one is expected to constantly be in control and considerate of everyone else…to the point of hurting oneself. I feel like Liam has been trying to please since he was 14 y. , perhaps even younger. I will always back him. He seems a truly lovely guy….and very talented in many ways.
My thoughts are that Liam thought he would be the most successful solo artist from 1D breakup. When that didn’t happen I believe it hit him hard and he struggled with that situation. I’m glad he’s getting help because he is talented and he needs to get back on track with his music. I believe he’s working on an album now so I hope he does well. I still think he’s bitter but he seems to be working on that at least I hope so
i fell he just got that memo form syco pumping it into his head that he would always be the most successful, and he believed them and renewed his contract with them, when they really just wanted to pimp him out and bandwagon him for the money.
@@jadepersonallyhe needs to find himself. He’s no 1D. What’s his identity. Who is Liam, what does he like, what music. He needs to do what he loves in order to be successful without looking for validation. If he’s genuine people will love his work.
I think the laugh when he said Logan Paul podcast was just him laughing off the pain. I feel like given how much hate he got it's very natural for him to try to prove himself. He got so much hate that now he trying his best to make everyone like him and i feel like that's just human instinct after having trauma like that. One thing i will say though living is the spotlight ,it's so much harder to please people. Everyone makes mistakes everyone has said hurtful things to people they love but his got pointed out cuz his was filmed and people had the opportunity to bully him for it through social media. I make mistakes nearly everyday and people have been hurt by my words before but Liam made one mistake and has to go through so much. It's so unfair and he doesn't deserve it at all. People are so cruel for making him go through hell for one mistake he made. You might think I'm saying all this cuz I'm biased but to be honest i could've stopped being a fan like a lotta fans did at that time but i didn't and there's a very logical reason as to why.
Liam is a strong, brave, amazing, lovely man and he is going through so much lately! I think everyone should keep Liam in their prayers and stand by his side no matter what, because that's what real fans do! 🤍😇 He deserves everything, he is so loving and he really cares about his fans!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ I love you Liam! Soooo proud of you! 🥰🎉💖
I grew up with them and I have a huge amount of respect for all. I don believe they have been through a lot more shit than we can comprehend.I don't think they could do something that would make me hate them. they do worry me a lot tho. I think Liam needs the professional help he seems to be getting now and people need to stop judging celebrities in general so harshly we are all human being going through life in the same time period. Our job shouldnt determined the amount of respect we get. I think people fail to see celebrities as real people with real feelings/ problems. I hope he gets through it
I think Max was somewhat tough on Liam and came across very skeptical. Maybe people can give Liam the benefit of the doubt on this one. Liam is still in a very tough place mentally and he does sound or feel like something is void in him. I think he is speaking from his heart. When you add the addiction on top of everything he has gone through it can't be easy to find your footing. I don't know what happened after his first solo tour and why he hasn't made more music til now. I don't think people understand his personality type. Being easy going and carefree has never been a part of Liam's DNA. He was also given such a tough position during the 1D years to be the Daddy... that could have affected him in the years since plus other opinions I have that I don't want to put here. I know so little about Liam, but my heart goes out to him and I hope people and fans rally around him and he feels the love again. It was great to hear that Niall and Louis were in studio with him and hopped on vocals for one of his songs.. hopefully it will make his album. Getting
What you are bearing witness to is continuous management abuse. Instead of protecting their client, advising him responsibly, and ensuring his mental and physical well-being They have decided to try and milk him for as much money as they can. That is why you see signs of him trying to get back the very fans that tried to bully him to death. His management knows that he is a pathological people pleaser, and will try his best to do his job so they exploit him. His forced laugh when talking about the podcast it’s a self soothing technique to cope through physical and mental pain. His management is allowing him to take the blame for their poor direction and hanging him out to dry. They know It would be better for him to continue with his life and showcase his talents. Instead, they don’t see him worth the risk. If he doesn’t pull in the numbers right away then he isn’t worth the investment. That is why you see him being directed to apologize and try to prove to the fake fans that they should come back. When you say he looks as if he’s putting on an act that’s because he kind of is. He is still deeply traumatized and angry from having his money stolen, childhood abuse, credit for his work given to other people, management exploitation and horrible contracts. Liam isn’t doing anything unusual or out of the ordinary. He is simply reacting to the position that his management has put him in.
@@juliansydney9819 why are you watching a video of him if you hate him? you say he mentiones 1D? cause he is asked to in the comments on every photo and video constantly. and btw, niall had 1d questions like almost every interview and talked about the chat, their connection and much more, but nobody cares, cause his interviews aren't so looked into and criticized.
i wholeheartedly agree. and a way to show this is true, in Liam's tiktok live you can hear him talking to people in the background - his father, who'd come to visit him, a friend, and management, who was controlling the camera, and taking down names of fans who Liam wanted to bless, and at certain points, you can hear them in the background telling Liam what to do. management want Liam to release music as soon as possible, they want to prove that Liam can still make them money, this was their last ditch attempt for Liam to win over the audience. if it doesn't go well, and Liam's new album that his been promoting doesn't do well - they will drop him, there's no doubt in my mind they would.
This was a little hard to watch, I think the only people who can truly understand where Liam Is coming from, are the people he Is addressing (The fans) We know his personality deeply
yeah Liam is looking for excuses based on whatever he was going through, but couldn't they have the same empathy for zayn, the only problem with him was he was not as outspoken and anxious even among them and I am sure that may have led to misunderstandings, Zayn was quiet but he wasn't stupid.
Dude is a hot mess. He flat-ironed his hair. I mean, HELLO? Funny how it never occurs to him to just be super straight forward and use the word "rehab" or "addict".
I have a,ways felt so bad for Liam and Zayn since they were always in the background and when they were in the light it was for a bad reason that wasn’t even true I hope he gets better and he deserves way more since you can see he is still struggling in this video lots of love for him❤❤❤
Do you think Liam may be on the spectrum?? I’ve always felt that, going way back. He wants to fit in and be cool and he just doesn’t know how to do it?? He was the rule follower, which fits the spectrum ideal perfectly. Back in the day he used preplanned dance moves, spun the microphone and followed the other boys, but never could be genuine, because of his spectrum disorder?? I think he has a good heart, but doesn’t know how to do it for real. Love him. Hope he can figure it out.
I dont think he is in a good place yet, still battling with demons. It must be hard. It didnt feel overly sincere but i think thats because he isnt healed yet... as others have said, step away from social media because when twitter comes for you, boy do you need a thick skin.
I agree with the people pleasing and I wish he'd stay off of social media because you end up wanting to please the people criticizing you. I believe Harry has his team mostly handle social media which I think is a healthier choice- because he got an insane amount of hate in the last couple years as well. You have to protect yourself.
this is because everyone was forcing him to apologise publicly for what reasons why, he don't own them anything, he always hold himself accountable, he is opening up which means he leading to healing, I've been following him since he came back in december last years and said he didn't left his house, and his insta live said he it would be hell of him to watch that podcast again and again, he didn't even knew what he's saying and he don't remember anything, he was under influence of alcohol
he did say he was diagnosed with a few things regarding his mental health so he might be on medication & still trying to adjust to them, it’s disrespectful to assume he’s lying about being sober while he’s on this healing journey to do better for himself
@@rosed3535 its not though because he said the same thing on the Diary of a CEO podcast and then went on to go right back and then really go off the rails..no judgement here..he just needs serious help..he has been in a bad place for a few years now..
@@angelaades751 What does the 2021 podcast have to do with lying about being sober?? Many addicts try to become sober multiple times but end up relapsing, in Liam's case as far as we know he has been sober several times but ended up drinking again. It's also likely he is medicated as he mentioned being diagnosed with multiple mental disorders but that is not a negative thing. Putting out the idea that we should assume people are lying about their sobriety because they've relapsed previously is a very dangerous message to send.
Pov - accent is interesting thing cause I completely understand the specialist but I get a hard time to understand our dead Liam after all this years.. and the cc doesn't really help all along. Yeah, Liam, we love you so much, but I understand him. I as well wish him nothing buy all the best - I always learn so much from this moments. Be good, take care. And thanks for always trying to be communicating to us, Liam. I care.
At this point this video is not what Liam needed. But carry on. Use his name for clout and engagement as everyone else is doing. Max If you see this comment go through the rest of the comments and genuinely think if this is what he needs at this moment when he is clearly trying to heal from all those hatred. This is what happens when someone is constantly hated gor everything he does. Every good deed is considered as 'virtue signal'. People makes fun of his insecurities and laughs at it. This isreally what happens when people think the unhealthy vetsion of you is the real you. No you dont get ot coz you haven't seen his journey, been there to witness him getting ripped of his hardwork; used and abused by higher-ops coz they think 'when one earns this much koney, they shouldn't complain and do whatever their mgmt want'. What youre looking at is a prime example of someone who tries and tries hard just to get backstabbed by the one he trusted the most. I may sound harsh or angry or whatever, coz I'm. This video was meant for us, not for uou to judge him for being who he is while he's trying hard to overcome the consequences of people blindly judging him.for something less terrible than they made it seem.
Zayn podcast next?
YES
Absolutely... especially the part where he talked about the reasons of leaving 1D will be interesting
Yes for sure
@@aleksandrarozankovic that surprised me. Did it surprise you??
@@peachesandpoets yes it did... some people are now accusing him for being selfish for wanting a solo career first so it will be interesting to see what vibe it gives to Max
he reached being 6 months sober a few days ago after having issues with alcohol for the past 13 years
he also posted a story about his mental health, saying he got diagnosed with a few things he didn’t know he had & implying it was some sort of manic & depressive episodes & it was showing in the logan paul podcasts & he said he wanted to make it public so if there’s people out there going through the same thing they’re not alone
i think it’s very commendable that he’s taking the steps to get better & do better for himself & start a new chapter. even if you can see some “people pleaser” tendencies i don’t blame him for that at all, he got hate from the whole internet i think he’s just trying to show some growth & that he’s not that person the internet paint him out to be.
i wish him the best cause i really don’t think he’s a bad horrible person like some people are trying to make him look like, he’s just a guy struggling to find his place & making mistakes as a result of that, struggling with his mental health while being in the public eye, it must not be easy & i think people should show more empathy to him & to people with severe mental health issues like Liam
agree with you -- i don't blame him at all for the "people pleaser" tendencies... def showed growth here after getting a TON of hate from the internet. not easy at all. wishing him the best, no doubt.
Thank you for that reply, we should just give him support at this point when he is just standing up, anything else can wait not his mental health.
@@maxpbeaumont but surely you making this video is also creating pre hate towards Liam.
Fr I feel like ppl only rlly show the "aesthetic" side of mental illness on social media and portray it as if it's a cool thing but when the reality of it is shown ppl are so quick to hate and scold
I feel bad for him and I hope he can take more time to work on himself. I also didn’t buy that he’s 100% yet.
4:28 I think you're greatly underestimating the grudge being held against Liam seen as there were still mass amounts of hate in response to this particular video as well as him announcing he was 100 day sober and that he was going to be a part of the soccer aid game again this year, which raises money for charity (I mean hating on somebody for raising money for children is pretty low).
I'm sure this plays into the people pleasing tendencies, but that's also just something he has struggled with for a while which he is also self aware of as he's mentioned it in interviews before. I don't blame him thought because even after putting in the effort to transform his life by getting help, becoming sober again, being diagnosed and treated for several mental illnesses, making amends and taking accountability for his mistakes there are still people who won't let one interview go even though the people who were actually involved (zayn & the rest of the band) have had private conversations and seem to be on good terms. Even after all that people won't give him a break, so I think it's natural to still want some sort of outside validation after doing all that work on himself and sadly the only way he might get it is by saying things like they were valid in their hate (which I believe is untrue).
Really appreciated your take on this and your extension of empathy as it can be exhausting seeing people who have already made their minds up that he's a horrible person and continue to express hate without even listening to what he's saying.
just to clarify, the soccer aid thing was just a big, completely avoidable, misunderstanding, the leaders of the event posted a really inconspicuous poster of Liam and tommy fury, that looked like it was a boxing match. which Liam then posted and it went viral as people went with the thought that it was a boxing match and proceeded to make fun of him in the most nasty way possible. if haters just took a minute to do an ounce of research, all of it could have been avoided.
thankfully, when another soccer aid poster was made, a lot of people jumped to his defense, and luckily a lot of people we happy for him later too.
@@jadepersonally yes there was tons of hate when they thought he was going to fight which was very unfortunate because as you said it could’ve been avoided, but regardless there was a lot of people even after it was revealed to be for soccer aid that continued the harassment. People were complaining that ‘liam’ was posting on the soccer aid accounts and using it to promo himself (he obviously didn’t have access to the account and it was the other way around, soccer aid using liam to promo the game which is the entire point of celebrity charity games). People complained about him making the game about himself even though he wasn’t promoting his work/himself at all. It is not up to liam what is posted on the soccer aid accounts but for some reason people decided to blame him for that too.
I don't think he gotten over 1D days like the other guys did. That can fuck up his psyche and a lot of us can't understand that. 1D is still part of his identity, his life & that's all he knows! I have severe mental illness and it's really hard to live day by day out in public, but he's a public figure that got it way worse than all of us. He's alright with me but I empathize with him.
definitely, because Liam is such a people pleaser, and I don't think that's a bad thing, I just think there's genuinely so much heart in him that he just loves to make people happy. he put others before himself, that alone got him the name 'Daddy Direction.' and I think with that, came the price of his mental health. and with management, forcing Liam to be someone he wasn't, at such a young age, i think that really fucked him up, another thing is, he didn't take time to heal, I feel like he used alcohol to convince himself that he had healed, but really he was still hurting just like the others, all those bottled up things i feel, lead to that interview, as revealed by Liam in this video too.
@@jadepersonallyit’s sad but I don’t see him as genuine. He needs others to validate him. It is sad he has a long time to recover and find who he really is. He is not 1D member. That’s a job.
100% He still feels he needs 1D and hasn’t found himself. He’s more of a sponge than any of the boys. It’s such a shame because he was technically the most polished singer out the gate with 1D. Without him they wouldn’t have made it.I hope he finds himself soon.
@@EmilyJBunny Me too
I love your overall message for Liam at the end.
Liam is definitely addressing the audience here, and also opening up showing he has been reflective, to those around him, who probably were ones that came up to him and have made comments directly to him.
I liked all the comments that you made, Max, you were really seeing him. For what this is.❤ thank you for this video.
If anyone needs a hug it's Liam. I hope he can rid his demons. He is a good person, I wish he can find peace and happiness within himself. ❤
4:20 "he almost wants to appease people who wrote negative comments" man exactly what i sensed there and i feel so bad for him((( that's never a good thing to please ones who so easily hate on you(
I think people deal with thing very differently.
Remember, Liam even though a young man still had a older woman come after him, the pressures of being made band babysitter, and learning to lean heavily on alcohol to try and cope at a young age (which got to control him quickly) hell most adults can't deal with alcoholism without help so why would any of us expect a boy too?
They all had demons to fight, Liam just got a couple knock down punches.
If his band mates can understand then who are we to slap our judgment upon him?
He messed up! He knows it!
We are all human.
Liam just keep swimming toward the light, you're going to be alright.
it's really interesting to see your take on the video he posted. i watched it as it premiered, and my first thought was "poor Liam"
i don't know much about him, but he seemed almost scared to come out again after everything that happened. and i don't blame him.
he got A LOT of hate for what he said in the podcast. but i couldn't hate oon him for it.
was it wrong? yes of course, but seeing someone who is known to struggle with alcohol making those statements with a drink in his hand(!) i knew he wasn't in a good place.
i've been in a relationship with someone who also struggles with addiction, and if there's one thing i've learnt, it's that they under the influence of whatever they struggle with, they say a lot of things, that they would never ever dream about saying if they were in a good place. and the shame that comes with the realisation of the fact they screwed up, is imense.
the fact that he came out, and addressed it, is very brave on his part.
i do agree with you that in some parts he didn't look or sound as genuine as he maybe could've, i felt the same way as i was watching it.
but i gave it quite a bit of thought, and a lot of it is because he was trying a bit too hard i think, not because he wasn't honest.
part of a succesful recovery is making mends with the past, and let it go. what's done is done, and can't be undone.
i just hope and pray that fans will let go of the past too, and support him, cause he deserves it.
otherwise i'm afraid if he relapses again, he might not recover this time.
You should do a niall and harry interview, I'd be curious about your thoughts on them
There are more than one important point going on in what he is saying; he knows since 1D that his fan base are teenagers girls, young lile 13 14 years old and they need to be careful, the five of them, since they were children themselves, wired to protect those young girls. That is part of their job even. Liam attempted against his life at that time. He has been very open about what is going on with him progressively, because of his training to keep inside.In the past he was trained to dont share what happened in those internal places of pain, the tender things, to forget about it. Lately he told publically that he do not feel like in 'here', that is a post traumatic disorder called dissociation. After that interview the fandom went wild against a person who already have mental heath issues that just grow since his teenager years. Of course he is looking for valdation after all, on top of it all, that is his career for which he did a lot of sacrifice already for. The love from the fandom is basically what makes them to go on. Talk about his laugh at this point, to a man who is overcoming addiction, depression and dissociation is not it, he is gonna look off because he literally is and is putting a lot of personal effort to even talk about that. We do talk about celebrities taking a step back from our humanity, what I wanna to tell you is this; at this point of Liam's life you shouldn't have even made this video. He is in a very tender state and is going online to talk about very difficult personal problems. So, he needs support, just support, nothing else. Look at how many celebrities, brilliant people we had broken down and lost.
So true.
Liam still had his walls up in the video. I think he was genuinely sorry, for what he said but letting people in. Telling people about his anger and frustration is hard for him. People need to stop being so judgmental, he’s trying to apologize for his actions and reflect on them. I will always support Liam trough thick and thin ❤️❤️
I think Liam is still finding himself and thats okay. I also think he is still in pain. I hope he finds his authentic self. I think Liam is genuine he is just a bit lost.
Liams lovely he’s going through something just let go
Perhaps it would be better to discuss his problems with a therapist rather than the whole world. Perhap s he should of just apologised saying he was going through a bad time. Perhaps he should have just started trying to write some songs like the others, instead of constantly looking inwards. Since they split up others in the band have taken the highlights big time. So it must be very difficult to try and compete. Perhaps best not to, just live Liam
Hey there! Could you some time do communication skills video of Harry and Niall this is us new york confrence? Just request but that would ve really nice and lots of other fans would love it :)
Pls do the Tom Holland podcast episode as well! The one he did not too long ago!!
Max's hair is immaculate haha good looking dude
This guy needs help i have been saying it since a long time even b4 that podcast his laughs were fake and he looked depressed n that podcast made him worse. He needs help ASAP otherwise something worse can happen GOD FORBID
Wow! He looks like Colin Farrell here!
One thing about Max is he will be honest 👏👏👏👏👏 weirdly Liam didnt really apologize especially for the things he said about Zayn and his family. But you can see he wants to do better or convince people that he's willing to. Him not wanting to watch the podcast doesn't help coz he won't see what we saw or know exactly what he did wrong. I hope he heals and gets to a better place because he's definitely not there yet
I think it's because it's what he really feels. And, he wasn't sorry for mentioning Zayns family and speaking on gigi comments and making a joke about it 😮
It may take time, he may over time understand why it wasn't him being honest...it came across as being vindictive and spiteful especially as he was super confident that at that time Zayn would be cancelled...so he went hard on zayn as it seemedlike low hanging fruit.
Hopefully, he'll be truthful in a way that he doesn't tear people down to uphold himself. Hopefully, now sober, he'll learn to balance his vindictiveness with the truth. It's a process. It'll take time.
@@valeskacanas9187True!!
That's a lie right there
I agree on the laugh it's fake.
The fact is people just want to hate him until he unalives himself. There is no rhyme or reason and nothing that he did to deserve such vitriol. People say he made mistakes but he did not make a single one publicly. If you look at what he said in the podcast it is 100% true, there are multiple videos of the creators of 1D saying exactly what Liam did. People refuse to understand that he is a human being with real life struggles. If anyone is to blame for what we see going on with him, it is his past management, his present management, Logan, and all of the terrible people who decide to bully someone to near death. It was obvious that he was suffering from substance abuse, and a mental health crisis. He has been nothing but open and honest, and that has been his Achilles’ heel. We now see him taking the blame for the wrongs that have been done to him. Psychologically that has to be unbearable. No one should take responsibility for their own abuse. His whole team needs to be fired. Hopefully he takes a note from Taylor Swift. When she did her Reputation era, she did not apologize for the things she never did. She gained her self-worth by giving no explanations, and only building her reputation.
Do ya think you'd do some niall vids in the future?
You are being hard on him!! You keep saying he’s “ proving, proving proving’. You really are hard on Liam. You were last time too. And I’ll pretty much repeat my last comment… you seem to expect him to be a certain way instead of just accepting who he is. His honesty is not for you or anyone else to judge.
I wish these young guys would not do this. Do the rehab work you need to do because there’s no shame in this, at all. Broadcasting one’s journey in this manner simply adds to the scrutiny, which has already contributed to the alcohol abuse and so forth. This is trying to elicit sympathy and be known, again, but wasn’t that the major contributing factor…being too well known? Only to then experience the loss of fame and notoriety, and now trying to find it again. Be at peace with who you are and not who you think others want you to be. And what is with his hair style…it lacks authenticity. I sadly have to agree with Matt, that Liam is seeking external validation. It needs to come from within, and he has some further therapy to go through.
So right about the hairstyle. He seems to be trying to connect with a culture that is not truly his own (he's done this before.) A huge signal of his being uncomfortable in his own skin and not knowing who is really is. Sad.
He attempted to change his face wirh surgery too, and ruined his handsome face. He looks so strange and so gaunt now.
Wish he'd just be comfortable with his real self. Maybe he will become so with therapy.
@@clairecarscallen wow okay where did this come from? liam said it was something his sisters taught him when he was little, being the only boy in the family, and it made him feel closer to home, stop trying to make it something its not, its really not that deep.
I think you are spot on … he is trying very hard, but he comes off insincere, it’s just the way he moves, acts … sorry, not buying…
i think the way he moves can be chalked up to withdrawal, and I think that's why there's so many jump cuts in the video, making it come off a bit insincere, like its scripted - but i do feel its off the dome. if you look at his promotional livestream for the video, you can see how much he struggles to keep still, he's constantly moving, playing with his hair and adjusting his seating. the live was only 25 minutes long and he could not keep still for even a minute, its abundantly clear he's struggling being sober.
He was sooo beatifull but something real uggly had to happens to him
Still n act. He tries to build a Harry face, hair. He s not okay, till he find his own way. Not in the public eye.
Jesus Christ. the level of stupidity in that first statement is astounding.
No he is not.
I suspect he has ADHD. It woukd account for a lot of his behaviour both during and after 1D. The impulsivity and resulting awkward social interaction sometimes.
in his recent stories, he shared that he has been diagnosed with certain manic conditions and also offered some helpful tips. It's truly heartwarming to see someone be so vulnerable on the internet, especially in an environment where people can be unkind. It takes immense courage to open up like that, and it's inspiring to witness such authenticity
I believe his birthday is very near Michael Jackson. Look at any video 9f Michael Jackson getting upstaged and it looks so painful. You ask me, all this obnoxious behavior seems a definite cry for attention. But, more than that, an alleged "Hail Mary pass" out of possible desperation to outshine Zaynes new song release. Seems to me someone is tasting their first taste of karma, for alleged upstaging tricks in the past. Someone should get the memo, "God don't like nasties". Liam needs a friend who is a Cancer, they can help each other build up their individual self esteem, with less collateral damage.
NOTE: For entertainment purposes only.
Zayn the Capricorn is back for sure in a big way, both musically and Mentally and emotionally. Eat your hearts out shady haters. Pss. Pray for the ego death of all jealous ones.
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I think if you look at all of the 1D boys you will see they all have issues. Some have dealt with them differently than others but DAMN! They were kids that were used by adults in SO many ways. I'm happy to see Liam getting the help he needs. Much love to him.
He is not trying to convince the outside world that he is a honest and a good person, he is trying to convince himself. The hardest part, when you are suffering from a mental disease that lowers your self worth. I hope, he gets better.
No... I have mental health issues n I dnt go out of my way to degrade n b*lly ppl...Anyone who says they wouldn't let someone around their kids coz they were born male n wear skirts is a sc*mbag and deserves every bit of suffering karma gives them...bad things happen to bad ppl..that's the law of the universe...if he wants to be happy he can try n be a better person..good things don't happen to sc*m
@jadebel7006 you’re being extreme.
@@maxpbeaumontwell u're being extreme too, posting this video & seriously your words made no sense
@@victoriar7799I think he responded to someone who deleted their comment
@@aasthakaulhe is spot on. Liam still needs to work om himself. He’s not genuine which is the sad part.
I think he is still very much in the struggle. I agree with another commenter that he should turn over his social media to a team. But, if he’s seeking validation, that won’t happen. I hope he can find a way to find what he needs within. I wish him the best. 💖
I extend a lot of grace to all of the boys. I respect Liam. I respect anybody who is TRYING. I don't find him to be acting.
Good for him, he’s trying his hardest in what has been an exceptional and fairly unique upbringing. Take my hat off to all those 5 lads for navigating their lives. I don’t believe any of them have come through unscathed. Just a Mums perspective.
I swear it’s PTSD
@@anitapricecheck9554it is ptsd, but the psychology community doesn’t even fully understand ptsd, so unfortunately any of them will get different mental health diagnoses, because the mental health community does not truly understand ptsd. Also, the power abuse they went through, that kind of trauma really messed you up, especially when you’re a teenager when it happens. Again, psychology community doesn’t fully understand ptsd, so until they do, everyone with ptsd is stuck in a very hard place. They’ve barely made progress on ptsd in 20 years.
He needs to stay off social media. It isn’t for everyone. Harry and Zayn stay off it except for career stuff and they have a team that handles that. He should do that.
Agree!
yeeeah, as much as i love his videos in tiktok and his stories, he should protect himself uwu
@@juliansydney9819 he doesnt do it for you crapbag, he does it for us his fans who love to see him getting better
@@jabyerackonstanza It looks like he's slowly breaking down.
@@shakirabenjamin1484 he is good, and he will be better once he starts his mini tour in LATAM :)
Personally, I'm not mad at Liam, what he said in that interview with Paul Logan wasn't okay, but it wasn't that bad, and I still don't understand why he got so much hate. Who I'm really angry with is the fans. Liam has always been there for us, always trying to please us, make us happy, the whole Covid was more bearable thanks to his streams. He's a good, kind guy, and after one slip everyone turned their backs on him? Did it never occur to anyone that he needed help? It makes me sad.
The thing is what he said in the podcast were all true. Somehow people couldn't handle the truth.
- Liam's std was the biggest selling debut single among the members
- He was pushed as the frontman/first person to sing in the beginning of xfactor so thay the rest to calmly come in (watch all videos)
- He was also to be the leader as revealed by the xfactor video themselves, though liam himself never said this
- He was promised a band, a recent podcast revealed they kept in contact with liam since 2008 and another video from the xfactor choreographer revealed they already had the 4 other members thought out after their auditions
- Gigi "supporting" zayn did not age well because when zayn needed her the most she literally dropped him
- Zayn's "family" (one of his siblings/and cousin) have never been supporting of zayn's music career, posting shaddy shit about it on their ig stories
- He was pushed up against the wall by one of the members(for some reason y'all assumed he was talking about his bandmates). This was literally tweeted by rebecca (their xfactor friend and competitor) before in 2021, and she also retweeted this on 1st june 2022, same day as liam's podcast, tgt with other relevant tweets.
The tweet:A boyband member told me that they were being picked up and thrown against walls, when they challenged decisions! I spoke with the accused and his words were "when you make as much money as you guys do, you don't get a say in what you do in your life, you do as we say" #change
- Both zayn and liam have said multiple times how bad it was in the band. Zayn said the same thing in his latest podcast and now everyone suddenly is woke.
- liam has said multiple times he will play whatever character they want him to play, he got sick of it because it bled over into his normal life
@@underratedartistes7730 wow, I didn't know all of that!
Can you tell me in which podcast the X-Factor thing was discussed? And where did Zayn say that?
If you remember, I'd like to know more and listen to those myself. This whole thing has bothered me so much.
Liam got a lot of hate because people were foolishly hoping that 1D would reunite ““”very soon”””
But those frustrated fans don't accept that the band members had problems with each other back then, which is very obvious, they were not lifelong friends when 1D was created.
If Liam had no right to tell that particular situation with some former bandmate, you are absolutely right but that situation was the only relevant fact and it was the damn alcohol along with Logan Paul.
And don't get me wrong, I love 1D and I want them to come back, but I know they won't do it for a long time, believe me the years that one direction has been on hiatus is nothing compared to other bands.
I think
He was just very nervous because of all the hate he got
Child star syndrome. Too much attention and money, too early. Enter substances. Then they’re no longer A tier, and they’re only 30 … Too difficult. I worry about all of them. Harry is doing very well, but his mentions of cocaine and mushrooms make me sad.
We need to be kind with Liam, as fans. He didn't have good professionals around him to help him with his solo career and his mental health. He should change to another team which can be gentle with who he really is. I want to see him at the studio and writing new songs. That will be beatiful.
it’s interesting seeing what outsiders thought of the video, us as liam fans that know a little bit more of his personality definitely saw something different, way more sincere and genuine. in fact it had me in tears! for example, didn’t see the fake laughs as him trying to gain validation but more so cover how bad it hurt him. wouldn’t say that’s a whole act but more of a protection, i feel sorry for him
Yeah I think you may be right; may be more of a protection thing than an act. Agreed. Liam fans probably see it through a perspective of a guy who was hurt.
@@maxpbeaumont I see Liam as "hurting" and just a little lost. I also see the little laugh differently. I felt it was a defense mechanism. If he didn't have the little laugh...it could have been tears of pain. I don't really know him well, but I think he is really hurting and in internal turmoil. He seems to be working so hard to move forward. Didn't he recently acknowledge he was diagnosed as being bi polar? I hope he gets the support he needs for his mental health and to keep sober.
Exactly! I love you ❤
All I can sense from this video is that he’s scared of the consequences. I can sense a bit of anxiety from him
The hate affected him so hard because we all know how confident he used to be before that Logan thing
I only hope he’s in a better place and no one deserves hate. People online are good with that because they’re anonymous, but in real life they can’t say those awful stuff…
I agree 1000% with you. He seems scared to death. I love Liam and want all good things for him. ❤
To me he seems like his spirit is broken, he's not his usual bubbly self. Maybe he still beats himself up for what's in the past and struggles to forgive himself.
I’ve watched Liam Payne a lot these past few months and the one thing I noticed about him is the fact he seems to always try to prove himself in concerts with One Direction which probably comes from the fact that he’s probably the most unpopular member of the band.
yeah cause he's been struggling more than the other and hasnt realeased music in years because of that ..
Your analysis put what I was thinking into words 👏🏽👏🏽
The way "fans" have never been fair to this man is infuriating. Not saying what happened in that podcast was necessary or nice but wasn't that big of a deal and definitely not justifying so much unnecessary pure evil comments from the world. People have never shown same energy with any other boys and that's fucked up and unfair. Not saying they should hate on others cause i love all of them so much , i just want people to be less mean with Liam, it's like seeing a person struggling and put you foot on his neck still(
People are extreme but what Liam did to Zayn was bad. I’m glad the boys and Zayn got his back at his lowest. Because he didn’t do the same for Zayn. He actually back stabbed him at Zayn’s low point. Everyone calling Zayn names and mocking him even these idiots. Being so racists saying false information that he hit his gf and mom because his culture and became he’s ethnic. And all the horrible names people called Zayn. Liam still needs to find himself and stop being people pleaser.
Can we not beat up on Liam he really is trying to correct his behaviour he a great person he's always been kind to fans
Honestly, I've got a bad feeling about his situation... He's now in the hospital, and had to cancel some concerts.. If this goes on I'm afraid we might loose him 🙁 I know it's dramatic, but I just got a bad feeling
I don't get the outrage with the Paul interview. For years fans were pushing the guys for the truth yet when they hear it, they are up in arms. He is in a no win situation and did nothing wrong
People are assholes.
i feel like most of the hate was geared to the fact that Liam came off somewhat arrogant, even though what he said was inherently true, and his comments about Zayn and his family, which, I do agree, he had no right to comment on and I do disagree with him there, but all of that really made people look over the things I feel was of importance; the truth about the mistreatment by management, the fact that that anguish made him resort to alcohol, and the fact that Logan was clearly pumping Liam with alcohol as a way to coax things out of him - especially about Zayn. which is something even Louis recognized. much less the whole internet. he really didn't deserve any of it in my opinion.
I’m glad he is not with people like you. He did nothing wrong please. He needs to be accountable and I’m glad he is. If Zayn is his so called brother he wouldn’t have say what he said. He is the one that bad talk about Zayn he is the one that brought the allegations by saying “that didn’t age well” and then talking about his family. This lead for them to make fun of Zayn and make racists comments. Ohh yes he bit up his girlfriend and her mom because he is ethnic and it’s his culture. That’s nothing to you. Also pretending 1D was formed around him when clearly it wasn’t 1D released the video right after. And I don’t even care about that. At the end of the podcast the one that got it worse was Zayn. Anyway Liam doesn’t seem genuine and still is people pleaser. He needs to find himself and be true to himself. I hope he does. Or else he won’t be happy.
@@agirlgirl2244 you sound young and like you have just jumped on the moral outrage bandwagon with everyone else without actually LISTENING to what he was saying. Luckily, I hadn't heard too much about it before I watched the interview so was able to with no bias.
Thank you for covering this
Wanted you to do this ❤
My pleasure :) I hope you enjoy.
I think you read h well. He is a good man and I think things went bad for him a long time ago and it will take a long time to get it all back on track
If he is surrounded by the right people I have faith that he will make it but that's all up to him now. I love Liam I want him to succeed ❤️
I agree he still wants attention. I also think his jealousy took over and he is challenged by it which prevents him from expressing himself appropriately. There is reflection on his part. But again I think that a clear sincere apology that he can articulate well, would be more recognized from a sincere place.
Agree 100% to you're reaction.. it's not negativ or disrespectful just facts. He his not ready for the spotlight.
I agree! he needs more time for himself. He deserves it! I just wanna cry for him.
he needed to heal, and I don't think he gave himself enough time after the band to fully heal, all the other boys took time of after the band ended (edit: minus Zayn) to find themselves, especially Louis. and right now too, i still don't think he gave himself enough time to find himself again. its clear he was very anxious to clear the air, and be on good terms with fans again, but with how strong the hate was, i don't think he'll be able to win over the majority vote like he's hoping too, and i feel like that will swallow him whole if he doesn't stay of social media
I don't particularly agree with "He could do another interview and people would forget about it". I can see why you would feel that but this fandom is not like that. He got hate for and death threats for soccer aid, he got hate an death threats even when he supported zayn on his new song AND when zayn replied to him. I wish it was as easy as a new interview and forget about the past but the fandom is just not like that
"Because that's not me..." is textbook distancing language. He's trying to separate who he "really" is from his bad behavior by framing it as though it was someone else who had done it and it doesn't belong to him personally.
And while none of us can be reduced to any single one of our actions, and we certainly can't be reduced to our worst mistake, we ARE the sum total of everything we do and none of our actions can be excluded as though they don't belong to us. Because, ultimately, no one can choose our actions for us or make us do anything we haven't decided to do, and the only one responsible for what we chose is us. It might have been him in a low moment or at a difficult time, and it might be a poor representation of his character in itself, but it was still very much HIM. Denying that means you can't change anything about it, because you can't change what you don't acknowledge.
Though, I do really appreciate what he had to say about cancel culture. About how it's not really intended to ostracize or exclude anyone, we don't want anyone to be banished to personal shame and regret for all of eternity, it's really just a call to accountability and the need for assuming responsibility for your actions and the impact you have on the rest of the world. It makes me feel like he had the wisdom to use this opportunity correctly and gain some perspective, rather than taking it as an attempt to actually cancel his existence and making him desperate to just get back "in", if that makes sense? He understood it wasn't a death sentence he couldn't overcome, it was a learning opportunity and used it as such.
Please do Zayns Call Her Daddy Podcast ❤
That must have been so hard for Liam, putting your heart out on the line and being very honest and genuine is a tough a gig, and celebs get so much hatred thrown at them its gotta be hard. I'm not even famous and I find incredibly hard to just express myself warts and all. Good luck to Liam
Don’t forget to put everything thru the cultural filter of being British…any Brit will tell you how hard it is to be truly open (in the American sense) in public…one is expected to constantly be in control and considerate of everyone else…to the point of hurting oneself. I feel like Liam has been trying to please since he was 14 y. , perhaps even younger. I will always back him. He seems a truly lovely guy….and very talented in many ways.
My thoughts are that Liam thought he would be the most successful solo artist from 1D breakup. When that didn’t happen I believe it hit him hard and he struggled with that situation. I’m glad he’s getting help because he is talented and he needs to get back on track with his music. I believe he’s working on an album now so I hope he does well. I still think he’s bitter but he seems to be working on that at least I hope so
i fell he just got that memo form syco pumping it into his head that he would always be the most successful, and he believed them and renewed his contract with them, when they really just wanted to pimp him out and bandwagon him for the money.
@@jadepersonallyhe needs to find himself. He’s no 1D. What’s his identity. Who is Liam, what does he like, what music. He needs to do what he loves in order to be successful without looking for validation. If he’s genuine people will love his work.
@@agirlgirl2244 I agree 100%.
The laughing kinda seems like “oh my god did I actually go on that podcast”
When is the Zayn interview coming mate ?
I think the laugh when he said Logan Paul podcast was just him laughing off the pain. I feel like given how much hate he got it's very natural for him to try to prove himself. He got so much hate that now he trying his best to make everyone like him and i feel like that's just human instinct after having trauma like that. One thing i will say though living is the spotlight ,it's so much harder to please people. Everyone makes mistakes everyone has said hurtful things to people they love but his got pointed out cuz his was filmed and people had the opportunity to bully him for it through social media. I make mistakes nearly everyday and people have been hurt by my words before but Liam made one mistake and has to go through so much. It's so unfair and he doesn't deserve it at all. People are so cruel for making him go through hell for one mistake he made. You might think I'm saying all this cuz I'm biased but to be honest i could've stopped being a fan like a lotta fans did at that time but i didn't and there's a very logical reason as to why.
One thing about Max is he will be honest 👏👏👏👏👏
Liam is a strong, brave, amazing, lovely man and he is going through so much lately! I think everyone should keep Liam in their prayers and stand by his side no matter what, because that's what real fans do! 🤍😇 He deserves everything, he is so loving and he really cares about his fans!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ I love you Liam! Soooo proud of you! 🥰🎉💖
This is crazy I'm agreeing with everything ur saying
You read him well, I agree with you 100%!
Ngl forgot mans even existed where did he even go 😂
I grew up with them and I have a huge amount of respect for all. I don believe they have been through a lot more shit than we can comprehend.I don't think they could do something that would make me hate them. they do worry me a lot tho. I think Liam needs the professional help he seems to be getting now and people need to stop judging celebrities in general so harshly we are all human being going through life in the same time period. Our job shouldnt determined the amount of respect we get. I think people fail to see celebrities as real people with real feelings/ problems.
I hope he gets through it
I got out of this he went to a rehab, and is really trying to get well!
Not truthful
Oh he 100% needs the limelight- he’s making all kinds of bad decisions looking for it. His former band mates success weighs on him.
I think Max was somewhat tough on Liam and came across very skeptical. Maybe people can give Liam the benefit of the doubt on this one. Liam is still in a very tough place mentally and he does sound or feel like something is void in him. I think he is speaking from his heart. When you add the addiction on top of everything he has gone through it can't be easy to find your footing. I don't know what happened after his first solo tour and why he hasn't made more music til now. I don't think people understand his personality type. Being easy going and carefree has never been a part of Liam's DNA. He was also given such a tough position during the 1D years to be the Daddy... that could have affected him in the years since plus other opinions I have that I don't want to put here. I know so little about Liam, but my heart goes out to him and I hope people and fans rally around him and he feels the love again. It was great to hear that Niall and Louis were in studio with him and hopped on vocals for one of his songs.. hopefully it will make his album. Getting
The laugh is fake because he is fake
Yep, I bet you'll be surprised by his transformation. Dude seems to have overcome his social anxiety.
i don't think the cuts are his doing, there's probably someone else editing his videos
that's a good point... good chance it's not him
I think he wasn't very well....needed time out!!
What you are bearing witness to is continuous management abuse. Instead of protecting their client, advising him responsibly, and ensuring his mental and physical well-being They have decided to try and milk him for as much money as they can. That is why you see signs of him trying to get back the very fans that tried to bully him to death. His management knows that he is a pathological people pleaser, and will try his best to do his job so they exploit him. His forced laugh when talking about the podcast it’s a self soothing technique to cope through physical and mental pain. His management is allowing him to take the blame for their poor direction and hanging him out to dry. They know It would be better for him to continue with his life and showcase his talents. Instead, they don’t see him worth the risk. If he doesn’t pull in the numbers right away then he isn’t worth the investment. That is why you see him being directed to apologize and try to prove to the fake fans that they should come back. When you say he looks as if he’s putting on an act that’s because he kind of is. He is still deeply traumatized and angry from having his money stolen, childhood abuse, credit for his work given to other people, management exploitation and horrible contracts. Liam isn’t doing anything unusual or out of the ordinary. He is simply reacting to the position that his management has put him in.
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@@juliansydney9819 why are you watching a video of him if you hate him? you say he mentiones 1D? cause he is asked to in the comments on every photo and video constantly. and btw, niall had 1d questions like almost every interview and talked about the chat, their connection and much more, but nobody cares, cause his interviews aren't so looked into and criticized.
i wholeheartedly agree. and a way to show this is true, in Liam's tiktok live you can hear him talking to people in the background - his father, who'd come to visit him, a friend, and management, who was controlling the camera, and taking down names of fans who Liam wanted to bless, and at certain points, you can hear them in the background telling Liam what to do. management want Liam to release music as soon as possible, they want to prove that Liam can still make them money, this was their last ditch attempt for Liam to win over the audience. if it doesn't go well, and Liam's new album that his been promoting doesn't do well - they will drop him, there's no doubt in my mind they would.
This was a little hard to watch, I think the only people who can truly understand where Liam Is coming from, are the people he Is addressing (The fans) We know his personality deeply
yeah Liam is looking for excuses based on whatever he was going through, but couldn't they have the same empathy for zayn, the only problem with him was he was not as outspoken and anxious even among them and I am sure that may have led to misunderstandings, Zayn was quiet but he wasn't stupid.
Dude is a hot mess. He flat-ironed his hair. I mean, HELLO? Funny how it never occurs to him to just be super straight forward and use the word "rehab" or "addict".
Sometimes you say things out loud but that is more for yourself than to others
I have a,ways felt so bad for Liam and Zayn since they were always in the background and when they were in the light it was for a bad reason that wasn’t even true I hope he gets better and he deserves way more since you can see he is still struggling in this video lots of love for him❤❤❤
Step N.8
Liam Payne is smart man 🫄
Do you think Liam may be on the spectrum?? I’ve always felt that, going way back. He wants to fit in and be cool and he just doesn’t know how to do it?? He was the rule follower, which fits the spectrum ideal perfectly. Back in the day he used preplanned dance moves, spun the microphone and followed the other boys, but never could be genuine, because of his spectrum disorder?? I think he has a good heart, but doesn’t know how to do it for real. Love him. Hope he can figure it out.
I dont think he is in a good place yet, still battling with demons. It must be hard. It didnt feel overly sincere but i think thats because he isnt healed yet... as others have said, step away from social media because when twitter comes for you, boy do you need a thick skin.
I agree with the people pleasing and I wish he'd stay off of social media because you end up wanting to please the people criticizing you.
I believe Harry has his team mostly handle social media which I think is a healthier choice- because he got an insane amount of hate in the last couple years as well. You have to protect yourself.
this is because everyone was forcing him to apologise publicly for what reasons why, he don't own them anything, he always hold himself accountable, he is opening up which means he leading to healing, I've been following him since he came back in december last years and said he didn't left his house, and his insta live said he it would be hell of him to watch that podcast again and again, he didn't even knew what he's saying and he don't remember anything, he was under influence of alcohol
He is only human he is not perfect
Where is zayn's vid
He's still not ok..he is either medicated or lying about being sober..because he's still really messy
Hoping he gets real help..it's sad honestly
he did say he was diagnosed with a few things regarding his mental health so he might be on medication & still trying to adjust to them, it’s disrespectful to assume he’s lying about being sober while he’s on this healing journey to do better for himself
@@rosed3535 its not though because he said the same thing on the Diary of a CEO podcast and then went on to go right back and then really go off the rails..no judgement here..he just needs serious help..he has been in a bad place for a few years now..
@@angelaades751 What does the 2021 podcast have to do with lying about being sober?? Many addicts try to become sober multiple times but end up relapsing, in Liam's case as far as we know he has been sober several times but ended up drinking again. It's also likely he is medicated as he mentioned being diagnosed with multiple mental disorders but that is not a negative thing. Putting out the idea that we should assume people are lying about their sobriety because they've relapsed previously is a very dangerous message to send.
Exactly to me hard still messy looking child like
He genuinely looks like he’s on something I hope he’s okay
he's not on anything, and that's the problem, that is what withdrawal looks like.
Pov - accent is interesting thing cause I completely understand the specialist but I get a hard time to understand our dead Liam after all this years.. and the cc doesn't really help all along. Yeah, Liam, we love you so much, but I understand him. I as well wish him nothing buy all the best - I always learn so much from this moments. Be good, take care. And thanks for always trying to be communicating to us, Liam. I care.
YOU HAVE TO KEEPP REACTING TO THE TRIPLETS BRO
1D they are all little liars. They do and say what their told to.
1D dont exist
At this point this video is not what Liam needed. But carry on. Use his name for clout and engagement as everyone else is doing.
Max If you see this comment go through the rest of the comments and genuinely think if this is what he needs at this moment when he is clearly trying to heal from all those hatred.
This is what happens when someone is constantly hated gor everything he does. Every good deed is considered as 'virtue signal'. People makes fun of his insecurities and laughs at it. This isreally what happens when people think the unhealthy vetsion of you is the real you. No you dont get ot coz you haven't seen his journey, been there to witness him getting ripped of his hardwork; used and abused by higher-ops coz they think 'when one earns this much koney, they shouldn't complain and do whatever their mgmt want'. What youre looking at is a prime example of someone who tries and tries hard just to get backstabbed by the one he trusted the most.
I may sound harsh or angry or whatever, coz I'm. This video was meant for us, not for uou to judge him for being who he is while he's trying hard to overcome the consequences of people blindly judging him.for something less terrible than they made it seem.