@@peachesandpoets yes it did... some people are now accusing him for being selfish for wanting a solo career first so it will be interesting to see what vibe it gives to Max
he reached being 6 months sober a few days ago after having issues with alcohol for the past 13 years he also posted a story about his mental health, saying he got diagnosed with a few things he didn’t know he had & implying it was some sort of manic & depressive episodes & it was showing in the logan paul podcasts & he said he wanted to make it public so if there’s people out there going through the same thing they’re not alone i think it’s very commendable that he’s taking the steps to get better & do better for himself & start a new chapter. even if you can see some “people pleaser” tendencies i don’t blame him for that at all, he got hate from the whole internet i think he’s just trying to show some growth & that he’s not that person the internet paint him out to be. i wish him the best cause i really don’t think he’s a bad horrible person like some people are trying to make him look like, he’s just a guy struggling to find his place & making mistakes as a result of that, struggling with his mental health while being in the public eye, it must not be easy & i think people should show more empathy to him & to people with severe mental health issues like Liam
agree with you -- i don't blame him at all for the "people pleaser" tendencies... def showed growth here after getting a TON of hate from the internet. not easy at all. wishing him the best, no doubt.
Fr I feel like ppl only rlly show the "aesthetic" side of mental illness on social media and portray it as if it's a cool thing but when the reality of it is shown ppl are so quick to hate and scold
Actually nobody has any second for someone else ,so why you need to care so much about the outside world , pls focus on yourself always remember this ….this will save your life and make your life much better ….Liam you have had enough achievements, you should have settled down and turn to your own life e, enjoyment everything you have had….
and he was cruel to people. He cheated on all of his partners, he abused people when he was high, when he was sober he was a sweetheart, but he also was very troubled and hurt many people. Don’t do drugs.
@@agk9700 Hurt people hurt people. He was groomed, and most of his relationships began as a minor. The drugs and alcohol addiction definitely aggravated his mental health but it's also important to find out what he endured that made him decide to overconsume this.
@@cherrybanilla true he was definitely hurting, a happy person wouldn’t do what the did. Of course I am sad that such a young beautiful talented man has died, but his clear downfall was addiction. And he was very open about it, how from a very young age he trashed hotel rooms. People need to take his example. Same thing happened to Sarah Harding, she died with cancer though, but she was alcoholic, from the band Girls Aloud (Cheryl Cole, Liam’s mother of the baby was in that band), and Sarah would always be drunk, outrageous, always annoyed everyone and everyone grew tired of her, she lost her career, ruined her friendships, and then she died and obviously everyone misses her now, but she was quite lonely when she was addicted. That’s what any addiction does, it ruins your life, makes you miserable, you self sabotage and for others you become unbearable. Hopefully the youth will learn from their mistakes.
I think if you look at all of the 1D boys you will see they all have issues. Some have dealt with them differently than others but DAMN! They were kids that were used by adults in SO many ways. I'm happy to see Liam getting the help he needs. Much love to him.
I agree. You can be successful and have some failures or you can be the one who was successful and continue on with the success. Humans are flaws and we can have many issues and difficulties that we don't show to others. Liam and Harry approached the celebrity life in different ways. Harry seems to have wanted privacy much more and never really talks that much about his private life. Doesn't mean he doesn't have any kind of problems or issues even if they aren't in no way like how Liam had. And I think it's damaging to Harry as a real person to assume he must somewhat be living a perfect life as that could be concluded that he is being put on some kind of pedestal. Harry shows us the public what he wants us to see. Let's try to not presume we think Harry doesn't having stuff he is dealing with himself irrespective of what has happen to Liam.
@@rhampton10 I am so sorry, but I misspoke. What I meant to say is Harry has had no issues that have been made public. I doubt he lives a perfect life. He is human and fame can be hard to navigate. But out of all the 1D members he has been the most successful.
It is sickening, that it took until 2023 for him to get diagnosed with ADHD. An early diagnosis would have made a huge difference, in helping him to understand his struggles. R.I.P LIAM. nothing can hurt you now.
I was 23. If you either A. A woman or B. A boy who doesn’t fit the EXACT stereotype of ADHD.. you’re at high risk of not being diagnosed or being misdiagnosed. For all my life until age 23 doctors loved to say I had everything under the sun. Depression, anxiety, PTSD, misophonia, trichotillomania, OCD, Bipolar polar disorder, tics, and agoraphobia, and severe social anxiety. Truth was…almost of all of that is just symptoms of my severe adhd.
I have it and have been to rehab and it’s very difficult to live with especially if u have demons, you can’t control your thoughts or focus so we’re drawn to drugs to silence the thoughts and anxiety. Interesting he had it.
@@BMarie774same. I’ve been on every psych drug ever and been diagnosed with so many different disorders including cluster B and finally I’ve been diagnosed correctly. It took me many institutions to get here. I can’t believe how hard it was to figure this out.
He needs to stay off social media. It isn’t for everyone. Harry and Zayn stay off it except for career stuff and they have a team that handles that. He should do that.
It’s so sad that he was going through such a bad time with his mental health and died a few days ago, so young and the way he did. May he rest in peace. 😔
Personally, I'm not mad at Liam, what he said in that interview with Paul Logan wasn't okay, but it wasn't that bad, and I still don't understand why he got so much hate. Who I'm really angry with is the fans. Liam has always been there for us, always trying to please us, make us happy, the whole Covid was more bearable thanks to his streams. He's a good, kind guy, and after one slip everyone turned their backs on him? Did it never occur to anyone that he needed help? It makes me sad.
The thing is what he said in the podcast were all true. Somehow people couldn't handle the truth. - Liam's std was the biggest selling debut single among the members - He was pushed as the frontman/first person to sing in the beginning of xfactor so thay the rest to calmly come in (watch all videos) - He was also to be the leader as revealed by the xfactor video themselves, though liam himself never said this - He was promised a band, a recent podcast revealed they kept in contact with liam since 2008 and another video from the xfactor choreographer revealed they already had the 4 other members thought out after their auditions - Gigi "supporting" zayn did not age well because when zayn needed her the most she literally dropped him - Zayn's "family" (one of his siblings/and cousin) have never been supporting of zayn's music career, posting shaddy shit about it on their ig stories - He was pushed up against the wall by one of the members(for some reason y'all assumed he was talking about his bandmates). This was literally tweeted by rebecca (their xfactor friend and competitor) before in 2021, and she also retweeted this on 1st june 2022, same day as liam's podcast, tgt with other relevant tweets. The tweet:A boyband member told me that they were being picked up and thrown against walls, when they challenged decisions! I spoke with the accused and his words were "when you make as much money as you guys do, you don't get a say in what you do in your life, you do as we say" #change - Both zayn and liam have said multiple times how bad it was in the band. Zayn said the same thing in his latest podcast and now everyone suddenly is woke. - liam has said multiple times he will play whatever character they want him to play, he got sick of it because it bled over into his normal life
@@underratedartistes7730 wow, I didn't know all of that! Can you tell me in which podcast the X-Factor thing was discussed? And where did Zayn say that? If you remember, I'd like to know more and listen to those myself. This whole thing has bothered me so much.
Liam got a lot of hate because people were foolishly hoping that 1D would reunite ““”very soon””” But those frustrated fans don't accept that the band members had problems with each other back then, which is very obvious, they were not lifelong friends when 1D was created. If Liam had no right to tell that particular situation with some former bandmate, you are absolutely right but that situation was the only relevant fact and it was the damn alcohol along with Logan Paul. And don't get me wrong, I love 1D and I want them to come back, but I know they won't do it for a long time, believe me the years that one direction has been on hiatus is nothing compared to other bands.
He is not trying to convince the outside world that he is a honest and a good person, he is trying to convince himself. The hardest part, when you are suffering from a mental disease that lowers your self worth. I hope, he gets better. Edit: I think, a lot of us saw the tragedy unfolding right in front of our eyes. Rest in Peace, Liam. Noone of us wanted to be right. As Arisullivan said in the comments: Not even his self-worth belonged to him. Please be kind to Max: He didn’t respond to me. As already mentioned in a comment he responded to someone who deleted their comment.
No... I have mental health issues n I dnt go out of my way to degrade n b*lly ppl...Anyone who says they wouldn't let someone around their kids coz they were born male n wear skirts is a sc*mbag and deserves every bit of suffering karma gives them...bad things happen to bad ppl..that's the law of the universe...if he wants to be happy he can try n be a better person..good things don't happen to sc*m
I think he is still very much in the struggle. I agree with another commenter that he should turn over his social media to a team. But, if he’s seeking validation, that won’t happen. I hope he can find a way to find what he needs within. I wish him the best. 💖
We need to be kind with Liam, as fans. He didn't have good professionals around him to help him with his solo career and his mental health. He should change to another team which can be gentle with who he really is. I want to see him at the studio and writing new songs. That will be beatiful.
Liam's life was pleasing others to love him. He couldn't live with the idea that someone doesn't love him. That's the only life he knew.When that was slipping away, he couldn't go on. Poor Liam. RIP
Good for him, he’s trying his hardest in what has been an exceptional and fairly unique upbringing. Take my hat off to all those 5 lads for navigating their lives. I don’t believe any of them have come through unscathed. Just a Mums perspective.
@@anitapricecheck9554it is ptsd, but the psychology community doesn’t even fully understand ptsd, so unfortunately any of them will get different mental health diagnoses, because the mental health community does not truly understand ptsd. Also, the power abuse they went through, that kind of trauma really messed you up, especially when you’re a teenager when it happens. Again, psychology community doesn’t fully understand ptsd, so until they do, everyone with ptsd is stuck in a very hard place. They’ve barely made progress on ptsd in 20 years.
All I can sense from this video is that he’s scared of the consequences. I can sense a bit of anxiety from him The hate affected him so hard because we all know how confident he used to be before that Logan thing I only hope he’s in a better place and no one deserves hate. People online are good with that because they’re anonymous, but in real life they can’t say those awful stuff…
To me he seems like his spirit is broken, he's not his usual bubbly self. Maybe he still beats himself up for what's in the past and struggles to forgive himself.
the people online were relentless when it came to bullying Liam after the Logan Paul interview. in Louis’s words, “I fucking hate them Paul brothers.” (I agree so much with Lou). he was not only suffering but he was set up for his downfall by Logan. and many of his “fans” didn’t stick up for him when he needed it the most. now he’s gone. people need to realise the weight of their words more. people suffer, it’s a real issue, and beating someone when they’re already down is what gets them killed. be kinder. do better, everyone 💔🕊️
Child star syndrome. Too much attention and money, too early. Enter substances. Then they’re no longer A tier, and they’re only 30 … Too difficult. I worry about all of them. Harry is doing very well, but his mentions of cocaine and mushrooms make me sad.
Liam is a strong, brave, amazing, lovely man and he is going through so much lately! I think everyone should keep Liam in their prayers and stand by his side no matter what, because that's what real fans do! 🤍😇 He deserves everything, he is so loving and he really cares about his fans!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ I love you Liam! Soooo proud of you! 🥰🎉💖
it’s interesting seeing what outsiders thought of the video, us as liam fans that know a little bit more of his personality definitely saw something different, way more sincere and genuine. in fact it had me in tears! for example, didn’t see the fake laughs as him trying to gain validation but more so cover how bad it hurt him. wouldn’t say that’s a whole act but more of a protection, i feel sorry for him edit: oh liam :( i miss you so much already it hurts.
Yeah I think you may be right; may be more of a protection thing than an act. Agreed. Liam fans probably see it through a perspective of a guy who was hurt.
@@maxpbeaumont I see Liam as "hurting" and just a little lost. I also see the little laugh differently. I felt it was a defense mechanism. If he didn't have the little laugh...it could have been tears of pain. I don't really know him well, but I think he is really hurting and in internal turmoil. He seems to be working so hard to move forward. Didn't he recently acknowledge he was diagnosed as being bi polar? I hope he gets the support he needs for his mental health and to keep sober.
Yes - it's like when confiding in friends or family - you may throw in some little laughs because you don't want to worry them by showing how much you are hurting. Now he's in a place of peace. So many hearts are broken... 😢
After Liam’s label record company dropped Liam I think that’s why he went into in a downward spiral before his passing I don’t think anybody paid attention to Liam when he said in an interview one time that he don’t want live anymore without his music he said that’s the only thing that keeps him from harming himself Liam was literally crying out for help and no one did anything and not getting the help he needed look where he’s at now he jumped off a 3rd floor balcony into a courtyard 45 feet high up I hope he got what he wanted rest easy Liam maybe in another life One Direction could’ve had a reunion and sung together but Rip you will be missed by Directioners and you’re family and friends and then the band members and then you’re fans all around the world
Honestly, I've got a bad feeling about his situation... He's now in the hospital, and had to cancel some concerts.. If this goes on I'm afraid we might loose him 🙁 I know it's dramatic, but I just got a bad feeling
Props to the people who always show empathy..he is one of the kindest guy I've ever see.even when he was in the band..It's crazy tot think about that people who living today maybe not be there tomorrow. All we have to do is enjoy the time with them when they're around us..I won't forget that day I saw that tragic news and I still can't believe it..felt like almost my childhood died that day..plz help the ppl who having a mental health problem and be kind to them..because they may never show that side for anyone and you never know what a person going through with his life..miss you paynoo..REST IN PEACE BROTHER.
I think what seems "extra" in the video and what seems to be an act to get the fans on his side, was more of a cry for help, a 'please I need you to support me now'. I hadn't seen that video until after his death, and it sounds pretty sincere to me, it's also a message of very low self-esteem and it breaks my heart to think about it
I think he lost his way after the group ended. And as someone who is also diagnosed with ADHD, rejection real or perceived is really tough. I felt for him. He was so broken.
I dont know why, but I've been falling down the 1D rabbit hole since I heard about the tragedy. Something about him seemed so sad and lost in those videos from Nialls concert. In so many videos of their early years, I get the sense that he never knew himself. Even in his first audition, he wasn't singing in his own voice. Maybe he reminded me of myself a little, big, neuro diverse, and childhood trauma vibes. Would probably explain why the other 4, who seem to have a little more of an idea of who they are, have done better carving out their own paths. He seemed at his best while he was in the band because that was someone else directing their day to day lives. It's heartbreaking that no one was able to help him out of the dark.
I can relate to this. I too have gone down a Liam rabbit hole since his death, something has drawn me in. I had never heard of him before he died and didn't know about 1D. But looking at tge footage if him/them there is something, maybe it's that from the beginning he needed things to be perfect, whereas the others were much more relaxed and took things in their stride. He was vulnerable from the off, that two year gap 14-16 he probably fixated on going through with xFactor. Listening him saying that he had so much going on in his head, masking his feelings, needing to please, fear of failure, self doubt/hate, that no one gave him an accurate diagnosis until 2023. Turning to substance abuse was too easy and once there he could not find a way out. I feel so overwhelmed with sadness for him, his son, Cheryl and his family, I really do.
@@somalilandrecognition5413 What is with this phenomenon? I too didn't even know who he was when I saw the news that he had died. Was never a 1D fan (I'm a few years older than them and wasn't in their target audience). But for the past 5 weeks I have been absolutely obsessed with watching old interviews and his IG and snapchat content. I agree that he just never really knew who he was, and without someone dictating his life once the band separated, he just didn't know which way to go. I'm sure having genuine friends with you're surrounded by "yes men" is a difficult task. He seemed to have a high intellect and was very self aware, even from the very beginning. I think he was very aware that things weren't going great for him once he was solo and took everything to heart so much. Then it all seemed to snowball this year and ended how it did. So freaking sad. I do hope he's at peace finally, but my heart breaks for his son.
We also know now that Liam was most likely high while doing that podcast and saying the things that he did. He also acts high in his 'I'm back Video'. Poor guy was hurting & miserable and no one knew how to help him.
The way "fans" have never been fair to this man is infuriating. Not saying what happened in that podcast was necessary or nice but wasn't that big of a deal and definitely not justifying so much unnecessary pure evil comments from the world. People have never shown same energy with any other boys and that's fucked up and unfair. Not saying they should hate on others cause i love all of them so much , i just want people to be less mean with Liam, it's like seeing a person struggling and put you foot on his neck still(
People are extreme but what Liam did to Zayn was bad. I’m glad the boys and Zayn got his back at his lowest. Because he didn’t do the same for Zayn. He actually back stabbed him at Zayn’s low point. Everyone calling Zayn names and mocking him even these idiots. Being so racists saying false information that he hit his gf and mom because his culture and became he’s ethnic. And all the horrible names people called Zayn. Liam still needs to find himself and stop being people pleaser.
I don't think he gotten over 1D days like the other guys did. That can fuck up his psyche and a lot of us can't understand that. 1D is still part of his identity, his life & that's all he knows! I have severe mental illness and it's really hard to live day by day out in public, but he's a public figure that got it way worse than all of us. He's alright with me but I empathize with him.
definitely, because Liam is such a people pleaser, and I don't think that's a bad thing, I just think there's genuinely so much heart in him that he just loves to make people happy. he put others before himself, that alone got him the name 'Daddy Direction.' and I think with that, came the price of his mental health. and with management, forcing Liam to be someone he wasn't, at such a young age, i think that really fucked him up, another thing is, he didn't take time to heal, I feel like he used alcohol to convince himself that he had healed, but really he was still hurting just like the others, all those bottled up things i feel, lead to that interview, as revealed by Liam in this video too.
@@jadepersonallyit’s sad but I don’t see him as genuine. He needs others to validate him. It is sad he has a long time to recover and find who he really is. He is not 1D member. That’s a job.
100% He still feels he needs 1D and hasn’t found himself. He’s more of a sponge than any of the boys. It’s such a shame because he was technically the most polished singer out the gate with 1D. Without him they wouldn’t have made it.I hope he finds himself soon.
@@EmilyJBunnyso sad reading this now. I don’t think he did find himself. I get the impression he didn’t know who he was to have his own identity outside of 1D.
Don’t forget to put everything thru the cultural filter of being British…any Brit will tell you how hard it is to be truly open (in the American sense) in public…one is expected to constantly be in control and considerate of everyone else…to the point of hurting oneself. I feel like Liam has been trying to please since he was 14 y. , perhaps even younger. I will always back him. He seems a truly lovely guy….and very talented in many ways.
That must have been so hard for Liam, putting your heart out on the line and being very honest and genuine is a tough a gig, and celebs get so much hatred thrown at them its gotta be hard. I'm not even famous and I find incredibly hard to just express myself warts and all. Good luck to Liam
He was honest and showed his vulnerability. There's a very cruel side to social media where the worst side of human nature rears it's ugly head. People analyze and criitique others heartleasly in what they consider weakness. Some people are just too good for this cruel world. RIP Liam 🩵🕊🪽
I don't get the outrage with the Paul interview. For years fans were pushing the guys for the truth yet when they hear it, they are up in arms. He is in a no win situation and did nothing wrong People are assholes.
i feel like most of the hate was geared to the fact that Liam came off somewhat arrogant, even though what he said was inherently true, and his comments about Zayn and his family, which, I do agree, he had no right to comment on and I do disagree with him there, but all of that really made people look over the things I feel was of importance; the truth about the mistreatment by management, the fact that that anguish made him resort to alcohol, and the fact that Logan was clearly pumping Liam with alcohol as a way to coax things out of him - especially about Zayn. which is something even Louis recognized. much less the whole internet. he really didn't deserve any of it in my opinion.
I’m glad he is not with people like you. He did nothing wrong please. He needs to be accountable and I’m glad he is. If Zayn is his so called brother he wouldn’t have say what he said. He is the one that bad talk about Zayn he is the one that brought the allegations by saying “that didn’t age well” and then talking about his family. This lead for them to make fun of Zayn and make racists comments. Ohh yes he bit up his girlfriend and her mom because he is ethnic and it’s his culture. That’s nothing to you. Also pretending 1D was formed around him when clearly it wasn’t 1D released the video right after. And I don’t even care about that. At the end of the podcast the one that got it worse was Zayn. Anyway Liam doesn’t seem genuine and still is people pleaser. He needs to find himself and be true to himself. I hope he does. Or else he won’t be happy.
@@agirlgirl2244 you sound young and like you have just jumped on the moral outrage bandwagon with everyone else without actually LISTENING to what he was saying. Luckily, I hadn't heard too much about it before I watched the interview so was able to with no bias.
I have been meaning to come here for weeks but just have not. I'm sure the tragic news of Liam has hit you hard too. Liam has been trying so hard to deal with his issues and taking responsibility and being so honest. He was in a good place so many times. I wish he knew how many people appreciated his talent and genuinely loved him. He has always been in communication with his fans and that was so special.
he needed to heal, and I don't think he gave himself enough time after the band to fully heal, all the other boys took time of after the band ended (edit: minus Zayn) to find themselves, especially Louis. and right now too, i still don't think he gave himself enough time to find himself again. its clear he was very anxious to clear the air, and be on good terms with fans again, but with how strong the hate was, i don't think he'll be able to win over the majority vote like he's hoping too, and i feel like that will swallow him whole if he doesn't stay of social media
Addicts are not happy people, internally. They don't have peace. Unfortunately they hurt the people closest to them. Shame he didnt stay clean and sober and recover. I pray he is now at peace ❤
I’ve watched Liam Payne a lot these past few months and the one thing I noticed about him is the fact he seems to always try to prove himself in concerts with One Direction which probably comes from the fact that he’s probably the most unpopular member of the band.
My god weren't you on point. Very good video. I like that at points you feel sorry for him/show empathy. How lovely to see a big strong man some softness, some realness, some sympathy❤❤❤
I think you read h well. He is a good man and I think things went bad for him a long time ago and it will take a long time to get it all back on track If he is surrounded by the right people I have faith that he will make it but that's all up to him now. I love Liam I want him to succeed ❤️
I don't particularly agree with "He could do another interview and people would forget about it". I can see why you would feel that but this fandom is not like that. He got hate for and death threats for soccer aid, he got hate an death threats even when he supported zayn on his new song AND when zayn replied to him. I wish it was as easy as a new interview and forget about the past but the fandom is just not like that
4:20 "he almost wants to appease people who wrote negative comments" man exactly what i sensed there and i feel so bad for him((( that's never a good thing to please ones who so easily hate on you(
4:28 I think you're greatly underestimating the grudge being held against Liam seen as there were still mass amounts of hate in response to this particular video as well as him announcing he was 100 day sober and that he was going to be a part of the soccer aid game again this year, which raises money for charity (I mean hating on somebody for raising money for children is pretty low). I'm sure this plays into the people pleasing tendencies, but that's also just something he has struggled with for a while which he is also self aware of as he's mentioned it in interviews before. I don't blame him thought because even after putting in the effort to transform his life by getting help, becoming sober again, being diagnosed and treated for several mental illnesses, making amends and taking accountability for his mistakes there are still people who won't let one interview go even though the people who were actually involved (zayn & the rest of the band) have had private conversations and seem to be on good terms. Even after all that people won't give him a break, so I think it's natural to still want some sort of outside validation after doing all that work on himself and sadly the only way he might get it is by saying things like they were valid in their hate (which I believe is untrue). Really appreciated your take on this and your extension of empathy as it can be exhausting seeing people who have already made their minds up that he's a horrible person and continue to express hate without even listening to what he's saying.
just to clarify, the soccer aid thing was just a big, completely avoidable, misunderstanding, the leaders of the event posted a really inconspicuous poster of Liam and tommy fury, that looked like it was a boxing match. which Liam then posted and it went viral as people went with the thought that it was a boxing match and proceeded to make fun of him in the most nasty way possible. if haters just took a minute to do an ounce of research, all of it could have been avoided. thankfully, when another soccer aid poster was made, a lot of people jumped to his defense, and luckily a lot of people we happy for him later too.
@@jadepersonally yes there was tons of hate when they thought he was going to fight which was very unfortunate because as you said it could’ve been avoided, but regardless there was a lot of people even after it was revealed to be for soccer aid that continued the harassment. People were complaining that ‘liam’ was posting on the soccer aid accounts and using it to promo himself (he obviously didn’t have access to the account and it was the other way around, soccer aid using liam to promo the game which is the entire point of celebrity charity games). People complained about him making the game about himself even though he wasn’t promoting his work/himself at all. It is not up to liam what is posted on the soccer aid accounts but for some reason people decided to blame him for that too.
I think people deal with thing very differently. Remember, Liam even though a young man still had a older woman come after him, the pressures of being made band babysitter, and learning to lean heavily on alcohol to try and cope at a young age (which got to control him quickly) hell most adults can't deal with alcoholism without help so why would any of us expect a boy too? They all had demons to fight, Liam just got a couple knock down punches. If his band mates can understand then who are we to slap our judgment upon him? He messed up! He knows it! We are all human. Liam just keep swimming toward the light, you're going to be alright.
I agree he still wants attention. I also think his jealousy took over and he is challenged by it which prevents him from expressing himself appropriately. There is reflection on his part. But again I think that a clear sincere apology that he can articulate well, would be more recognized from a sincere place.
It’s strange to watch this again. It’s also triggering for those that have gone through grief and know what’s it’s like. But when your influential like Payne was it’s tough. What is interesting is the comment he made that he was nervous going out on tour and still trying to fit into an image he himself no longer resonated with. But others wanted him to be perhaps the business wanted that part of him he didn’t want anymore. And struggled to find his truth when he wasn’t given the chance to. I think it sounds like he was pushed into something that wasn’t for him anymore. Yt algo bought me to your video as I watched his the other day. Very sad loss indeed. ❤
That's so insightful and powerful, very wise thank you. I hope he was able to work on that himself to an extent... just too little too late I guess. But maybe others can identify and help themselves. I'm too old for much adjustment myself, sadly.
"Because that's not me..." is textbook distancing language. He's trying to separate who he "really" is from his bad behavior by framing it as though it was someone else who had done it and it doesn't belong to him personally. And while none of us can be reduced to any single one of our actions, and we certainly can't be reduced to our worst mistake, we ARE the sum total of everything we do and none of our actions can be excluded as though they don't belong to us. Because, ultimately, no one can choose our actions for us or make us do anything we haven't decided to do, and the only one responsible for what we chose is us. It might have been him in a low moment or at a difficult time, and it might be a poor representation of his character in itself, but it was still very much HIM. Denying that means you can't change anything about it, because you can't change what you don't acknowledge. Though, I do really appreciate what he had to say about cancel culture. About how it's not really intended to ostracize or exclude anyone, we don't want anyone to be banished to personal shame and regret for all of eternity, it's really just a call to accountability and the need for assuming responsibility for your actions and the impact you have on the rest of the world. It makes me feel like he had the wisdom to use this opportunity correctly and gain some perspective, rather than taking it as an attempt to actually cancel his existence and making him desperate to just get back "in", if that makes sense? He understood it wasn't a death sentence he couldn't overcome, it was a learning opportunity and used it as such.
I don't think he was trying to "distance himself". He meant, I believe, that wasn't the "real me" - the person I am deep inside. He was very much loved and he had a great deal of GOOD about him!
@@cecileroy557 But people don't exist as a dichotomy like that. You're not either good -or- bad, because we're all complex, nuanced beings with a mix of both. His "good" traits don't outweigh the bad and vise versa. Being loved doesn't undo or erase any pain or harm he caused. Just as an example, Ted Bundy was bizarrely beloved among the public and he was a serial killer who murdered 30 women. Obviously no one is suggesting anything as vile as serial murder here, but my point is that people can do wonderful things and commit atrocities all in the same lifetime. No one is wholly innocent and chaste, including Liam.
My thoughts are that Liam thought he would be the most successful solo artist from 1D breakup. When that didn’t happen I believe it hit him hard and he struggled with that situation. I’m glad he’s getting help because he is talented and he needs to get back on track with his music. I believe he’s working on an album now so I hope he does well. I still think he’s bitter but he seems to be working on that at least I hope so
i fell he just got that memo form syco pumping it into his head that he would always be the most successful, and he believed them and renewed his contract with them, when they really just wanted to pimp him out and bandwagon him for the money.
@@jadepersonallyhe needs to find himself. He’s no 1D. What’s his identity. Who is Liam, what does he like, what music. He needs to do what he loves in order to be successful without looking for validation. If he’s genuine people will love his work.
Liam still had his walls up in the video. I think he was genuinely sorry, for what he said but letting people in. Telling people about his anger and frustration is hard for him. People need to stop being so judgmental, he’s trying to apologize for his actions and reflect on them. I will always support Liam trough thick and thin ❤️❤️
Lord rest his soul.I seen that Logan podcast and I dont think he did anything wrong at all, I think his management team should have stopped him from drinking during interviews. I thought Liam showed a real side to him and became an instant fan of him. he was natural. I have to say there is a lot of cruel cold dark people in this world. He didnt do anyting wrong he told the truth, people dont like the truth in this world, people made a big thing out of nothing. Are they happy now!!! Rest easy Liam.
Obviously he wasn’t… the problem is not the individual it’s the industry ruining their life. The show business has to get cleaned up… mangers, agents, label bosses, hollyweird…. Celebs are given drugs to be better controlled by others and to stay productive. It’s a sick system
I was thinking about this after seeing so many posts after losing Liam, especially Robbie Williams' posts. Sadly, until those who are in financial control start recognizing humans as humans instead of cash machines it won't change. And a lot of people enjoy the debauchery and care nothing about the cost to others, in fact some are probably happy for situations like this because it means more clicks and views all while they continue being immoral vultures behind closed doors. Tbh this current situation reminds me of Elvis' death, so many people loved the entertainer yet those closest had lost control and he was gone way too soon. And I saw the family probably learned of Liam's death via online news - horrid stuff 😢
Liam is definitely addressing the audience here, and also opening up showing he has been reflective, to those around him, who probably were ones that came up to him and have made comments directly to him. I liked all the comments that you made, Max, you were really seeing him. For what this is.❤ thank you for this video.
I have just rewatched this and well….you hit every nail on the head methinks. One question, he talks about ‘the many mistakes I’ve made….’ - was that the key? looking at the missteps, we all make mistakes/ do wrong as we grow and live, and hammering himself for them rather than accepting the mistakes and moving on? I always got the feeling with Liam that he could forgive everyone except himself. RIP Liam
An ADHD thing, thinking that you need to be perfect, leads to self-loathing which leads to people pleasing. So hard to love yourself and living with the stupid things that we all do. Perhaps he was on a journey to a better place, but so sad that it ended as it did. Why was he alone, he should never have been on his own........ 😢
look at his body language. the way he keeps looking to the side, scrunching up his face and just appearing in distress. so so many signs. i kinda fell off tuning into one direction members after their breakup just listen to their individual music.m, so i had no idea what was going on with liam until his death. just coming back and seeing this he looks so unhealthy and out of it. during 1D i know this sounds cringe, but his eyes twinkled so full of life and then seeing him before his death his eyes looked so dull and tired. I hope he can rest peacefully
literally exactly me too, after 1D broke up i strayed so far i didn’t really know anything about any of them aside from their big singles, except liam and louis, i was bit on the older side of directioners, i wasn’t a child, i was a teen, by the end of them i was 18 so it was ok, growing up, different music, etc. i barely knew liam had a child then he passed and i found out all of this, didn’t know he was an addict, i was and still am so so so so shocked because he was always so precious and the “dad”, serious, good boy, beautiful soul, and then i saw the kate’s tiktoks and he looks absolutely lost and sad 😞😞😞😞
When he talks about cheryl and Bear and his intentions are so good...just sad after whats happened. Ty for back then having a kind view on him. I think the overdoing thing's or worrying about other people are difference in language emphasise between the US and UK. Thx anyways.
I have watched some recent videos and it appears he didn't take his own life. Someone else did. Someone he trusted. He was thrown off the balcony. He heavily supported children's aid because i think he may had seen some things in bigger circles he wished he hadn't. Could this had lead to drug abuse and his demise? Who knows? But i feel for his son and family who are left behind. Liam,came over as a kind and loving soul 💔
Despite having countless mental health issues and severe adhd that causes massive executive function issues…I always thought “if you get rich, your life will 100% be better. You will be happier. It’s impossible not to”. Then I had a PMDD episode. And it changed my perspective completely. Like I’d had depression before. But I always thought my depression would go away if the external causes for it weren’t there anymore. But the PMDD episode showed me that some people.. some people don’t even need an external reason, and their brain is tormenting them. It felt truly and wholly inescapable. My point is, it doesn’t matter how rich and successful you are, if your brain chemistry decides it… you’re going to go through hell. Period. I understood during those PMDD episodes that NOTHING would bring me out of it. It actually made me scared to have a kid. I would say things like “oh the birth of my child surely would bring me out of it!”. But I knee in my heart of hearts..no….no it wouldn’t. Not then. Which made me terrified of postpartum depression. I imagine it’s very similar to PMDD. That just… inescapable, unimaginable, “before you even open your eyes when you wake up you’re already in literal hell” sort of darkness. For some people.. it’s just temporarily inescapable. But that’s the important part. Is it temporary. You have to hang on to that fact with every fiber you have in you… you have to there is no other option.
He was definitely trying to convince himself and ensure he held himself accountable. When you speak things into existence for millions of people to see, it kind of forces you to keep to your word, which is what I think he did or tried to do. This is all just too sad. May he rest in peace.
I think Max was somewhat tough on Liam and came across very skeptical. Maybe people can give Liam the benefit of the doubt on this one. Liam is still in a very tough place mentally and he does sound or feel like something is void in him. I think he is speaking from his heart. When you add the addiction on top of everything he has gone through it can't be easy to find your footing. I don't know what happened after his first solo tour and why he hasn't made more music til now. I don't think people understand his personality type. Being easy going and carefree has never been a part of Liam's DNA. He was also given such a tough position during the 1D years to be the Daddy... that could have affected him in the years since plus other opinions I have that I don't want to put here. I know so little about Liam, but my heart goes out to him and I hope people and fans rally around him and he feels the love again. It was great to hear that Niall and Louis were in studio with him and hopped on vocals for one of his songs.. hopefully it will make his album. Getting
I think the laugh when he said Logan Paul podcast was just him laughing off the pain. I feel like given how much hate he got it's very natural for him to try to prove himself. He got so much hate that now he trying his best to make everyone like him and i feel like that's just human instinct after having trauma like that. One thing i will say though living is the spotlight ,it's so much harder to please people. Everyone makes mistakes everyone has said hurtful things to people they love but his got pointed out cuz his was filmed and people had the opportunity to bully him for it through social media. I make mistakes nearly everyday and people have been hurt by my words before but Liam made one mistake and has to go through so much. It's so unfair and he doesn't deserve it at all. People are so cruel for making him go through hell for one mistake he made. You might think I'm saying all this cuz I'm biased but to be honest i could've stopped being a fan like a lotta fans did at that time but i didn't and there's a very logical reason as to why.
it's really interesting to see your take on the video he posted. i watched it as it premiered, and my first thought was "poor Liam" i don't know much about him, but he seemed almost scared to come out again after everything that happened. and i don't blame him. he got A LOT of hate for what he said in the podcast. but i couldn't hate oon him for it. was it wrong? yes of course, but seeing someone who is known to struggle with alcohol making those statements with a drink in his hand(!) i knew he wasn't in a good place. i've been in a relationship with someone who also struggles with addiction, and if there's one thing i've learnt, it's that they under the influence of whatever they struggle with, they say a lot of things, that they would never ever dream about saying if they were in a good place. and the shame that comes with the realisation of the fact they screwed up, is imense. the fact that he came out, and addressed it, is very brave on his part. i do agree with you that in some parts he didn't look or sound as genuine as he maybe could've, i felt the same way as i was watching it. but i gave it quite a bit of thought, and a lot of it is because he was trying a bit too hard i think, not because he wasn't honest. part of a succesful recovery is making mends with the past, and let it go. what's done is done, and can't be undone. i just hope and pray that fans will let go of the past too, and support him, cause he deserves it. otherwise i'm afraid if he relapses again, he might not recover this time.
Zayn podcast next?
YES
Absolutely... especially the part where he talked about the reasons of leaving 1D will be interesting
Yes for sure
@@aleksandrarozankovic that surprised me. Did it surprise you??
@@peachesandpoets yes it did... some people are now accusing him for being selfish for wanting a solo career first so it will be interesting to see what vibe it gives to Max
he reached being 6 months sober a few days ago after having issues with alcohol for the past 13 years
he also posted a story about his mental health, saying he got diagnosed with a few things he didn’t know he had & implying it was some sort of manic & depressive episodes & it was showing in the logan paul podcasts & he said he wanted to make it public so if there’s people out there going through the same thing they’re not alone
i think it’s very commendable that he’s taking the steps to get better & do better for himself & start a new chapter. even if you can see some “people pleaser” tendencies i don’t blame him for that at all, he got hate from the whole internet i think he’s just trying to show some growth & that he’s not that person the internet paint him out to be.
i wish him the best cause i really don’t think he’s a bad horrible person like some people are trying to make him look like, he’s just a guy struggling to find his place & making mistakes as a result of that, struggling with his mental health while being in the public eye, it must not be easy & i think people should show more empathy to him & to people with severe mental health issues like Liam
agree with you -- i don't blame him at all for the "people pleaser" tendencies... def showed growth here after getting a TON of hate from the internet. not easy at all. wishing him the best, no doubt.
Thank you for that reply, we should just give him support at this point when he is just standing up, anything else can wait not his mental health.
@@maxpbeaumont but surely you making this video is also creating pre hate towards Liam.
Fr I feel like ppl only rlly show the "aesthetic" side of mental illness on social media and portray it as if it's a cool thing but when the reality of it is shown ppl are so quick to hate and scold
Actually nobody has any second for someone else ,so why you need to care so much about the outside world , pls focus on yourself always remember this ….this will save your life and make your life much better ….Liam you have had enough achievements, you should have settled down and turn to your own life e, enjoyment everything you have had….
Such a sad ending. People were cruel to him.
yes lots and lots of people
Social media attracts a lot of demons
and he was cruel to people. He cheated on all of his partners, he abused people when he was high, when he was sober he was a sweetheart, but he also was very troubled and hurt many people. Don’t do drugs.
@@agk9700 Hurt people hurt people. He was groomed, and most of his relationships began as a minor. The drugs and alcohol addiction definitely aggravated his mental health but it's also important to find out what he endured that made him decide to overconsume this.
@@cherrybanilla true he was definitely hurting, a happy person wouldn’t do what the did. Of course I am sad that such a young beautiful talented man has died, but his clear downfall was addiction. And he was very open about it, how from a very young age he trashed hotel rooms. People need to take his example. Same thing happened to Sarah Harding, she died with cancer though, but she was alcoholic, from the band Girls Aloud (Cheryl Cole, Liam’s mother of the baby was in that band), and Sarah would always be drunk, outrageous, always annoyed everyone and everyone grew tired of her, she lost her career, ruined her friendships, and then she died and obviously everyone misses her now, but she was quite lonely when she was addicted. That’s what any addiction does, it ruins your life, makes you miserable, you self sabotage and for others you become unbearable. Hopefully the youth will learn from their mistakes.
I think if you look at all of the 1D boys you will see they all have issues. Some have dealt with them differently than others but DAMN! They were kids that were used by adults in SO many ways. I'm happy to see Liam getting the help he needs. Much love to him.
Harry Styles has had no issues. He is the only one who has been the most successful after they broke up.
I agree. You can be successful and have some failures or you can be the one who was successful and continue on with the success. Humans are flaws and we can have many issues and difficulties that we don't show to others.
Liam and Harry approached the celebrity life in different ways. Harry seems to have wanted privacy much more and never really talks that much about his private life. Doesn't mean he doesn't have any kind of problems or issues even if they aren't in no way like how Liam had.
And I think it's damaging to Harry as a real person to assume he must somewhat be living a perfect life as that could be concluded that he is being put on some kind of pedestal. Harry shows us the public what he wants us to see. Let's try to not presume we think Harry doesn't having stuff he is dealing with himself irrespective of what has happen to Liam.
@@SilkyShish really? No issues? Okay.
@@rhampton10 I am so sorry, but I misspoke. What I meant to say is Harry has had no issues that have been made public. I doubt he lives a perfect life. He is human and fame can be hard to navigate. But out of all the 1D members he has been the most successful.
@@SilkyShishI believe this too. He comes from a solid place
It is sickening, that it took until 2023 for him to get diagnosed with ADHD.
An early diagnosis would have made a huge difference, in helping him to understand his struggles.
R.I.P LIAM.
nothing can hurt you now.
this guy got put through the laundry - that GF with her book was the cherry on top
I was 23. If you either A. A woman or B. A boy who doesn’t fit the EXACT stereotype of ADHD.. you’re at high risk of not being diagnosed or being misdiagnosed. For all my life until age 23 doctors loved to say I had everything under the sun. Depression, anxiety, PTSD, misophonia, trichotillomania, OCD, Bipolar polar disorder, tics, and agoraphobia, and severe social anxiety. Truth was…almost of all of that is just symptoms of my severe adhd.
@@BMarie774 🐾thank you for sharing - countless will see your comment and it will help many
I have it and have been to rehab and it’s very difficult to live with especially if u have demons, you can’t control your thoughts or focus so we’re drawn to drugs to silence the thoughts and anxiety. Interesting he had it.
@@BMarie774same. I’ve been on every psych drug ever and been diagnosed with so many different disorders including cluster B and finally I’ve been diagnosed correctly. It took me many institutions to get here. I can’t believe how hard it was to figure this out.
Poor thing, he was a good person inside. Hope he rests in peace.
@@Joeblogs999 I hope so too 🕊️
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Now looking back at this video after everything that happened now. The signs were clearly there….. rest in peace Liam ❤❤ we all love you 🕊️
He needs to stay off social media. It isn’t for everyone. Harry and Zayn stay off it except for career stuff and they have a team that handles that. He should do that.
Agree!
yeeeah, as much as i love his videos in tiktok and his stories, he should protect himself uwu
@@juliansydney9819 he doesnt do it for you crapbag, he does it for us his fans who love to see him getting better
@@jabyerackonstanza It looks like he's slowly breaking down.
@@shakirabenjamin1484 he is good, and he will be better once he starts his mini tour in LATAM :)
It’s so sad that he was going through such a bad time with his mental health and died a few days ago, so young and the way he did. May he rest in peace. 😔
Personally, I'm not mad at Liam, what he said in that interview with Paul Logan wasn't okay, but it wasn't that bad, and I still don't understand why he got so much hate. Who I'm really angry with is the fans. Liam has always been there for us, always trying to please us, make us happy, the whole Covid was more bearable thanks to his streams. He's a good, kind guy, and after one slip everyone turned their backs on him? Did it never occur to anyone that he needed help? It makes me sad.
The thing is what he said in the podcast were all true. Somehow people couldn't handle the truth.
- Liam's std was the biggest selling debut single among the members
- He was pushed as the frontman/first person to sing in the beginning of xfactor so thay the rest to calmly come in (watch all videos)
- He was also to be the leader as revealed by the xfactor video themselves, though liam himself never said this
- He was promised a band, a recent podcast revealed they kept in contact with liam since 2008 and another video from the xfactor choreographer revealed they already had the 4 other members thought out after their auditions
- Gigi "supporting" zayn did not age well because when zayn needed her the most she literally dropped him
- Zayn's "family" (one of his siblings/and cousin) have never been supporting of zayn's music career, posting shaddy shit about it on their ig stories
- He was pushed up against the wall by one of the members(for some reason y'all assumed he was talking about his bandmates). This was literally tweeted by rebecca (their xfactor friend and competitor) before in 2021, and she also retweeted this on 1st june 2022, same day as liam's podcast, tgt with other relevant tweets.
The tweet:A boyband member told me that they were being picked up and thrown against walls, when they challenged decisions! I spoke with the accused and his words were "when you make as much money as you guys do, you don't get a say in what you do in your life, you do as we say" #change
- Both zayn and liam have said multiple times how bad it was in the band. Zayn said the same thing in his latest podcast and now everyone suddenly is woke.
- liam has said multiple times he will play whatever character they want him to play, he got sick of it because it bled over into his normal life
@@underratedartistes7730 wow, I didn't know all of that!
Can you tell me in which podcast the X-Factor thing was discussed? And where did Zayn say that?
If you remember, I'd like to know more and listen to those myself. This whole thing has bothered me so much.
Liam got a lot of hate because people were foolishly hoping that 1D would reunite ““”very soon”””
But those frustrated fans don't accept that the band members had problems with each other back then, which is very obvious, they were not lifelong friends when 1D was created.
If Liam had no right to tell that particular situation with some former bandmate, you are absolutely right but that situation was the only relevant fact and it was the damn alcohol along with Logan Paul.
And don't get me wrong, I love 1D and I want them to come back, but I know they won't do it for a long time, believe me the years that one direction has been on hiatus is nothing compared to other bands.
@@mayra12345671💔💔
Damn ….. Seeing this four days after his tragic death.
I know all the criticism, mockery and hate destroyed him.
That's what's so painful, that he died in such a state of grief, it's hard to think about
I extend a lot of grace to all of the boys. I respect Liam. I respect anybody who is TRYING. I don't find him to be acting.
Exactly. He was sincere here with his fans. Rest In Peace, Liam.
He is not trying to convince the outside world that he is a honest and a good person, he is trying to convince himself. The hardest part, when you are suffering from a mental disease that lowers your self worth. I hope, he gets better.
Edit: I think, a lot of us saw the tragedy unfolding right in front of our eyes. Rest in Peace, Liam. Noone of us wanted to be right. As Arisullivan said in the comments: Not even his self-worth belonged to him. Please be kind to Max: He didn’t respond to me. As already mentioned in a comment he responded to someone who deleted their comment.
No... I have mental health issues n I dnt go out of my way to degrade n b*lly ppl...Anyone who says they wouldn't let someone around their kids coz they were born male n wear skirts is a sc*mbag and deserves every bit of suffering karma gives them...bad things happen to bad ppl..that's the law of the universe...if he wants to be happy he can try n be a better person..good things don't happen to sc*m
@jadebel7006 you’re being extreme.
@@maxpbeaumontwell u're being extreme too, posting this video & seriously your words made no sense
@@victoriar7799I think he responded to someone who deleted their comment
@@aasthakaulhe is spot on. Liam still needs to work om himself. He’s not genuine which is the sad part.
I think he is still very much in the struggle. I agree with another commenter that he should turn over his social media to a team. But, if he’s seeking validation, that won’t happen. I hope he can find a way to find what he needs within. I wish him the best. 💖
💔this is heartbreaking
We need to be kind with Liam, as fans. He didn't have good professionals around him to help him with his solo career and his mental health. He should change to another team which can be gentle with who he really is. I want to see him at the studio and writing new songs. That will be beatiful.
Liam's life was pleasing others to love him. He couldn't live with the idea that someone doesn't love him. That's the only life he knew.When that was slipping away, he couldn't go on. Poor Liam. RIP
He did not kill himself
Good for him, he’s trying his hardest in what has been an exceptional and fairly unique upbringing. Take my hat off to all those 5 lads for navigating their lives. I don’t believe any of them have come through unscathed. Just a Mums perspective.
I swear it’s PTSD
@@anitapricecheck9554it is ptsd, but the psychology community doesn’t even fully understand ptsd, so unfortunately any of them will get different mental health diagnoses, because the mental health community does not truly understand ptsd. Also, the power abuse they went through, that kind of trauma really messed you up, especially when you’re a teenager when it happens. Again, psychology community doesn’t fully understand ptsd, so until they do, everyone with ptsd is stuck in a very hard place. They’ve barely made progress on ptsd in 20 years.
All I can sense from this video is that he’s scared of the consequences. I can sense a bit of anxiety from him
The hate affected him so hard because we all know how confident he used to be before that Logan thing
I only hope he’s in a better place and no one deserves hate. People online are good with that because they’re anonymous, but in real life they can’t say those awful stuff…
I agree 1000% with you. He seems scared to death. I love Liam and want all good things for him. ❤
To me he seems like his spirit is broken, he's not his usual bubbly self. Maybe he still beats himself up for what's in the past and struggles to forgive himself.
@@bubbleburst1338Rest In Peace Liam
the people online were relentless when it came to bullying Liam after the Logan Paul interview. in Louis’s words, “I fucking hate them Paul brothers.” (I agree so much with Lou). he was not only suffering but he was set up for his downfall by Logan. and many of his “fans” didn’t stick up for him when he needed it the most. now he’s gone. people need to realise the weight of their words more. people suffer, it’s a real issue, and beating someone when they’re already down is what gets them killed.
be kinder. do better, everyone 💔🕊️
Child star syndrome. Too much attention and money, too early. Enter substances. Then they’re no longer A tier, and they’re only 30 … Too difficult. I worry about all of them. Harry is doing very well, but his mentions of cocaine and mushrooms make me sad.
Liam is a strong, brave, amazing, lovely man and he is going through so much lately! I think everyone should keep Liam in their prayers and stand by his side no matter what, because that's what real fans do! 🤍😇 He deserves everything, he is so loving and he really cares about his fans!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ I love you Liam! Soooo proud of you! 🥰🎉💖
Can we not beat up on Liam he really is trying to correct his behaviour he a great person he's always been kind to fans
it’s interesting seeing what outsiders thought of the video, us as liam fans that know a little bit more of his personality definitely saw something different, way more sincere and genuine. in fact it had me in tears! for example, didn’t see the fake laughs as him trying to gain validation but more so cover how bad it hurt him. wouldn’t say that’s a whole act but more of a protection, i feel sorry for him
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oh liam :( i miss you so much already it hurts.
Yeah I think you may be right; may be more of a protection thing than an act. Agreed. Liam fans probably see it through a perspective of a guy who was hurt.
@@maxpbeaumont I see Liam as "hurting" and just a little lost. I also see the little laugh differently. I felt it was a defense mechanism. If he didn't have the little laugh...it could have been tears of pain. I don't really know him well, but I think he is really hurting and in internal turmoil. He seems to be working so hard to move forward. Didn't he recently acknowledge he was diagnosed as being bi polar? I hope he gets the support he needs for his mental health and to keep sober.
Exactly! I love you ❤
Yes - it's like when confiding in friends or family - you may throw in some little laughs because you don't want to worry them by showing how much you are hurting. Now he's in a place of peace. So many hearts are broken... 😢
@@cecileroy557 you’re so right :/ he didn’t want to worry us yet we could still tell at times. we’ll miss you liam :(
Your analysis put what I was thinking into words 👏🏽👏🏽
After Liam’s label record company dropped Liam I think that’s why he went into in a downward spiral before his passing I don’t think anybody paid attention to Liam when he said in an interview one time that he don’t want live anymore without his music he said that’s the only thing that keeps him from harming himself Liam was literally crying out for help and no one did anything and not getting the help he needed look where he’s at now he jumped off a 3rd floor balcony into a courtyard 45 feet high up I hope he got what he wanted rest easy Liam maybe in another life One Direction could’ve had a reunion and sung together but Rip you will be missed by Directioners and you’re family and friends and then the band members and then you’re fans all around the world
Honestly, I've got a bad feeling about his situation... He's now in the hospital, and had to cancel some concerts.. If this goes on I'm afraid we might loose him 🙁 I know it's dramatic, but I just got a bad feeling
bro😭
@@helooo-h2y well…. 😕
@@Kille483we all felt at some point bro....coz he was so..................unwell, struggling mentally..........we felt that bad feeling.....💔
And how right you were 💔
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I feel bad for him and I hope he can take more time to work on himself. I also didn’t buy that he’s 100% yet.
Thank you for covering this
Wanted you to do this ❤
My pleasure :) I hope you enjoy.
Props to the people who always show empathy..he is one of the kindest guy I've ever see.even when he was in the band..It's crazy tot think about that people who living today maybe not be there tomorrow. All we have to do is enjoy the time with them when they're around us..I won't forget that day I saw that tragic news and I still can't believe it..felt like almost my childhood died that day..plz help the ppl who having a mental health problem and be kind to them..because they may never show that side for anyone and you never know what a person going through with his life..miss you paynoo..REST IN PEACE BROTHER.
I think what seems "extra" in the video and what seems to be an act to get the fans on his side, was more of a cry for help, a 'please I need you to support me now'. I hadn't seen that video until after his death, and it sounds pretty sincere to me, it's also a message of very low self-esteem and it breaks my heart to think about it
I think he lost his way after the group ended. And as someone who is also diagnosed with ADHD, rejection real or perceived is really tough. I felt for him. He was so broken.
I dont know why, but I've been falling down the 1D rabbit hole since I heard about the tragedy. Something about him seemed so sad and lost in those videos from Nialls concert. In so many videos of their early years, I get the sense that he never knew himself. Even in his first audition, he wasn't singing in his own voice. Maybe he reminded me of myself a little, big, neuro diverse, and childhood trauma vibes. Would probably explain why the other 4, who seem to have a little more of an idea of who they are, have done better carving out their own paths.
He seemed at his best while he was in the band because that was someone else directing their day to day lives. It's heartbreaking that no one was able to help him out of the dark.
I can relate to this. I too have gone down a Liam rabbit hole since his death, something has drawn me in. I had never heard of him before he died and didn't know about 1D.
But looking at tge footage if him/them there is something, maybe it's that from the beginning he needed things to be perfect, whereas the others were much more relaxed and took things in their stride.
He was vulnerable from the off, that two year gap 14-16 he probably fixated on going through with xFactor.
Listening him saying that he had so much going on in his head, masking his feelings, needing to please, fear of failure, self doubt/hate, that no one gave him an accurate diagnosis until 2023.
Turning to substance abuse was too easy and once there he could not find a way out.
I feel so overwhelmed with sadness for him, his son, Cheryl and his family, I really do.
@@somalilandrecognition5413 What is with this phenomenon? I too didn't even know who he was when I saw the news that he had died. Was never a 1D fan (I'm a few years older than them and wasn't in their target audience). But for the past 5 weeks I have been absolutely obsessed with watching old interviews and his IG and snapchat content.
I agree that he just never really knew who he was, and without someone dictating his life once the band separated, he just didn't know which way to go. I'm sure having genuine friends with you're surrounded by "yes men" is a difficult task. He seemed to have a high intellect and was very self aware, even from the very beginning. I think he was very aware that things weren't going great for him once he was solo and took everything to heart so much. Then it all seemed to snowball this year and ended how it did. So freaking sad. I do hope he's at peace finally, but my heart breaks for his son.
We also know now that Liam was most likely high while doing that podcast and saying the things that he did. He also acts high in his 'I'm back Video'. Poor guy was hurting & miserable and no one knew how to help him.
The way "fans" have never been fair to this man is infuriating. Not saying what happened in that podcast was necessary or nice but wasn't that big of a deal and definitely not justifying so much unnecessary pure evil comments from the world. People have never shown same energy with any other boys and that's fucked up and unfair. Not saying they should hate on others cause i love all of them so much , i just want people to be less mean with Liam, it's like seeing a person struggling and put you foot on his neck still(
People are extreme but what Liam did to Zayn was bad. I’m glad the boys and Zayn got his back at his lowest. Because he didn’t do the same for Zayn. He actually back stabbed him at Zayn’s low point. Everyone calling Zayn names and mocking him even these idiots. Being so racists saying false information that he hit his gf and mom because his culture and became he’s ethnic. And all the horrible names people called Zayn. Liam still needs to find himself and stop being people pleaser.
I don't think he gotten over 1D days like the other guys did. That can fuck up his psyche and a lot of us can't understand that. 1D is still part of his identity, his life & that's all he knows! I have severe mental illness and it's really hard to live day by day out in public, but he's a public figure that got it way worse than all of us. He's alright with me but I empathize with him.
definitely, because Liam is such a people pleaser, and I don't think that's a bad thing, I just think there's genuinely so much heart in him that he just loves to make people happy. he put others before himself, that alone got him the name 'Daddy Direction.' and I think with that, came the price of his mental health. and with management, forcing Liam to be someone he wasn't, at such a young age, i think that really fucked him up, another thing is, he didn't take time to heal, I feel like he used alcohol to convince himself that he had healed, but really he was still hurting just like the others, all those bottled up things i feel, lead to that interview, as revealed by Liam in this video too.
@@jadepersonallyit’s sad but I don’t see him as genuine. He needs others to validate him. It is sad he has a long time to recover and find who he really is. He is not 1D member. That’s a job.
100% He still feels he needs 1D and hasn’t found himself. He’s more of a sponge than any of the boys. It’s such a shame because he was technically the most polished singer out the gate with 1D. Without him they wouldn’t have made it.I hope he finds himself soon.
@@EmilyJBunny Me too
@@EmilyJBunnyso sad reading this now. I don’t think he did find himself. I get the impression he didn’t know who he was to have his own identity outside of 1D.
Im glad to see someone actually tried to understand him instead of judging and bullying RIP LIAM 😢💔
Its so heartbreaking that he just wanted to be liked and people couldnt stop crapping on him. He was so loved and wish we would have shown him more
Don’t forget to put everything thru the cultural filter of being British…any Brit will tell you how hard it is to be truly open (in the American sense) in public…one is expected to constantly be in control and considerate of everyone else…to the point of hurting oneself. I feel like Liam has been trying to please since he was 14 y. , perhaps even younger. I will always back him. He seems a truly lovely guy….and very talented in many ways.
Liam is gone😢
I can't believe that's real
Really horrible news
@@maxpbeaumont😭❤️🩹💔🕊️
That must have been so hard for Liam, putting your heart out on the line and being very honest and genuine is a tough a gig, and celebs get so much hatred thrown at them its gotta be hard. I'm not even famous and I find incredibly hard to just express myself warts and all. Good luck to Liam
One year later... 😢
He was honest and showed his vulnerability. There's a very cruel side to social media where the worst side of human nature rears it's ugly head. People analyze and criitique others heartleasly in what they consider weakness.
Some people are just too good for this cruel world. RIP Liam 🩵🕊🪽
I love your overall message for Liam at the end.
I’m still in complete shock on what happened to him a few days ago. May he RIP
I don't get the outrage with the Paul interview. For years fans were pushing the guys for the truth yet when they hear it, they are up in arms. He is in a no win situation and did nothing wrong
People are assholes.
i feel like most of the hate was geared to the fact that Liam came off somewhat arrogant, even though what he said was inherently true, and his comments about Zayn and his family, which, I do agree, he had no right to comment on and I do disagree with him there, but all of that really made people look over the things I feel was of importance; the truth about the mistreatment by management, the fact that that anguish made him resort to alcohol, and the fact that Logan was clearly pumping Liam with alcohol as a way to coax things out of him - especially about Zayn. which is something even Louis recognized. much less the whole internet. he really didn't deserve any of it in my opinion.
I’m glad he is not with people like you. He did nothing wrong please. He needs to be accountable and I’m glad he is. If Zayn is his so called brother he wouldn’t have say what he said. He is the one that bad talk about Zayn he is the one that brought the allegations by saying “that didn’t age well” and then talking about his family. This lead for them to make fun of Zayn and make racists comments. Ohh yes he bit up his girlfriend and her mom because he is ethnic and it’s his culture. That’s nothing to you. Also pretending 1D was formed around him when clearly it wasn’t 1D released the video right after. And I don’t even care about that. At the end of the podcast the one that got it worse was Zayn. Anyway Liam doesn’t seem genuine and still is people pleaser. He needs to find himself and be true to himself. I hope he does. Or else he won’t be happy.
@@agirlgirl2244 you sound young and like you have just jumped on the moral outrage bandwagon with everyone else without actually LISTENING to what he was saying. Luckily, I hadn't heard too much about it before I watched the interview so was able to with no bias.
I have been meaning to come here for weeks but just have not. I'm sure the tragic news of Liam has hit you hard too. Liam has been trying so hard to deal with his issues and taking responsibility and being so honest. He was in a good place so many times. I wish he knew how many people appreciated his talent and genuinely loved him. He has always been in communication with his fans and that was so special.
Agree 100% to you're reaction.. it's not negativ or disrespectful just facts. He his not ready for the spotlight.
I agree! he needs more time for himself. He deserves it! I just wanna cry for him.
he needed to heal, and I don't think he gave himself enough time after the band to fully heal, all the other boys took time of after the band ended (edit: minus Zayn) to find themselves, especially Louis. and right now too, i still don't think he gave himself enough time to find himself again. its clear he was very anxious to clear the air, and be on good terms with fans again, but with how strong the hate was, i don't think he'll be able to win over the majority vote like he's hoping too, and i feel like that will swallow him whole if he doesn't stay of social media
Rest in peace Liam
Addicts are not happy people, internally. They don't have peace. Unfortunately they hurt the people closest to them. Shame he didnt stay clean and sober and recover. I pray he is now at peace ❤
I think
He was just very nervous because of all the hate he got
Wow - watching now is an interesting take.
It's sad to watch this - one year later.... 😢😢😢
watching this after his death makes me even sadder, it seems this poor guy died feeling so unloved :(
Celebrities are humans too 😢
I’ve watched Liam Payne a lot these past few months and the one thing I noticed about him is the fact he seems to always try to prove himself in concerts with One Direction which probably comes from the fact that he’s probably the most unpopular member of the band.
yeah cause he's been struggling more than the other and hasnt realeased music in years because of that ..
If anyone needs a hug it's Liam. I hope he can rid his demons. He is a good person, I wish he can find peace and happiness within himself. ❤
A bear hug, that is no more....💔
He found his peace in a tragic way 😢
My god weren't you on point. Very good video. I like that at points you feel sorry for him/show empathy. How lovely to see a big strong man some softness, some realness, some sympathy❤❤❤
I think you read h well. He is a good man and I think things went bad for him a long time ago and it will take a long time to get it all back on track
If he is surrounded by the right people I have faith that he will make it but that's all up to him now. I love Liam I want him to succeed ❤️
Rest in peace Liam😔🙏🏼
I don't particularly agree with "He could do another interview and people would forget about it". I can see why you would feel that but this fandom is not like that. He got hate for and death threats for soccer aid, he got hate an death threats even when he supported zayn on his new song AND when zayn replied to him. I wish it was as easy as a new interview and forget about the past but the fandom is just not like that
How did zayn reply to him
@@lasthope3237 You mean on Liam's comment? He replied back with "thanks bro, appreciate it" not exactly this but yes
4:20 "he almost wants to appease people who wrote negative comments" man exactly what i sensed there and i feel so bad for him((( that's never a good thing to please ones who so easily hate on you(
4:28 I think you're greatly underestimating the grudge being held against Liam seen as there were still mass amounts of hate in response to this particular video as well as him announcing he was 100 day sober and that he was going to be a part of the soccer aid game again this year, which raises money for charity (I mean hating on somebody for raising money for children is pretty low).
I'm sure this plays into the people pleasing tendencies, but that's also just something he has struggled with for a while which he is also self aware of as he's mentioned it in interviews before. I don't blame him thought because even after putting in the effort to transform his life by getting help, becoming sober again, being diagnosed and treated for several mental illnesses, making amends and taking accountability for his mistakes there are still people who won't let one interview go even though the people who were actually involved (zayn & the rest of the band) have had private conversations and seem to be on good terms. Even after all that people won't give him a break, so I think it's natural to still want some sort of outside validation after doing all that work on himself and sadly the only way he might get it is by saying things like they were valid in their hate (which I believe is untrue).
Really appreciated your take on this and your extension of empathy as it can be exhausting seeing people who have already made their minds up that he's a horrible person and continue to express hate without even listening to what he's saying.
just to clarify, the soccer aid thing was just a big, completely avoidable, misunderstanding, the leaders of the event posted a really inconspicuous poster of Liam and tommy fury, that looked like it was a boxing match. which Liam then posted and it went viral as people went with the thought that it was a boxing match and proceeded to make fun of him in the most nasty way possible. if haters just took a minute to do an ounce of research, all of it could have been avoided.
thankfully, when another soccer aid poster was made, a lot of people jumped to his defense, and luckily a lot of people we happy for him later too.
@@jadepersonally yes there was tons of hate when they thought he was going to fight which was very unfortunate because as you said it could’ve been avoided, but regardless there was a lot of people even after it was revealed to be for soccer aid that continued the harassment. People were complaining that ‘liam’ was posting on the soccer aid accounts and using it to promo himself (he obviously didn’t have access to the account and it was the other way around, soccer aid using liam to promo the game which is the entire point of celebrity charity games). People complained about him making the game about himself even though he wasn’t promoting his work/himself at all. It is not up to liam what is posted on the soccer aid accounts but for some reason people decided to blame him for that too.
I think people deal with thing very differently.
Remember, Liam even though a young man still had a older woman come after him, the pressures of being made band babysitter, and learning to lean heavily on alcohol to try and cope at a young age (which got to control him quickly) hell most adults can't deal with alcoholism without help so why would any of us expect a boy too?
They all had demons to fight, Liam just got a couple knock down punches.
If his band mates can understand then who are we to slap our judgment upon him?
He messed up! He knows it!
We are all human.
Liam just keep swimming toward the light, you're going to be alright.
I agree he still wants attention. I also think his jealousy took over and he is challenged by it which prevents him from expressing himself appropriately. There is reflection on his part. But again I think that a clear sincere apology that he can articulate well, would be more recognized from a sincere place.
God bless your soul Liam, Rest in peace😢😢
thanks youtube for recommending this video to me, im now crying
It’s strange to watch this again. It’s also triggering for those that have gone through grief and know what’s it’s like. But when your influential like Payne was it’s tough. What is interesting is the comment he made that he was nervous going out on tour and still trying to fit into an image he himself no longer resonated with. But others wanted him to be perhaps the business wanted that part of him he didn’t want anymore. And struggled to find his truth when he wasn’t given the chance to. I think it sounds like he was pushed into something that wasn’t for him anymore. Yt algo bought me to your video as I watched his the other day. Very sad loss indeed. ❤
That's so insightful and powerful, very wise thank you. I hope he was able to work on that himself to an extent... just too little too late I guess. But maybe others can identify and help themselves. I'm too old for much adjustment myself, sadly.
I don’t think he ever wanted to be in the industry. It was his dad idea.
May he rest in peace for eternity 🕊♥
Fly high Liam.. hope you know now how much you were loved 💓🙏🕊️
I don't believe a word liam said in this video, he looked very unwell and definitely did not look clean or sober. I hope liam has found peace. X
"Because that's not me..." is textbook distancing language. He's trying to separate who he "really" is from his bad behavior by framing it as though it was someone else who had done it and it doesn't belong to him personally.
And while none of us can be reduced to any single one of our actions, and we certainly can't be reduced to our worst mistake, we ARE the sum total of everything we do and none of our actions can be excluded as though they don't belong to us. Because, ultimately, no one can choose our actions for us or make us do anything we haven't decided to do, and the only one responsible for what we chose is us. It might have been him in a low moment or at a difficult time, and it might be a poor representation of his character in itself, but it was still very much HIM. Denying that means you can't change anything about it, because you can't change what you don't acknowledge.
Though, I do really appreciate what he had to say about cancel culture. About how it's not really intended to ostracize or exclude anyone, we don't want anyone to be banished to personal shame and regret for all of eternity, it's really just a call to accountability and the need for assuming responsibility for your actions and the impact you have on the rest of the world. It makes me feel like he had the wisdom to use this opportunity correctly and gain some perspective, rather than taking it as an attempt to actually cancel his existence and making him desperate to just get back "in", if that makes sense? He understood it wasn't a death sentence he couldn't overcome, it was a learning opportunity and used it as such.
It turned out it was a death sentence... He tried his best... We shouldn't judge. It all became too much for him... 😢
I don't think he was trying to "distance himself". He meant, I believe, that wasn't the "real me" - the person I am deep inside. He was very much loved and he had a great deal of GOOD about him!
@@cecileroy557 But people don't exist as a dichotomy like that. You're not either good -or- bad, because we're all complex, nuanced beings with a mix of both. His "good" traits don't outweigh the bad and vise versa. Being loved doesn't undo or erase any pain or harm he caused. Just as an example, Ted Bundy was bizarrely beloved among the public and he was a serial killer who murdered 30 women. Obviously no one is suggesting anything as vile as serial murder here, but my point is that people can do wonderful things and commit atrocities all in the same lifetime. No one is wholly innocent and chaste, including Liam.
My thoughts are that Liam thought he would be the most successful solo artist from 1D breakup. When that didn’t happen I believe it hit him hard and he struggled with that situation. I’m glad he’s getting help because he is talented and he needs to get back on track with his music. I believe he’s working on an album now so I hope he does well. I still think he’s bitter but he seems to be working on that at least I hope so
i fell he just got that memo form syco pumping it into his head that he would always be the most successful, and he believed them and renewed his contract with them, when they really just wanted to pimp him out and bandwagon him for the money.
@@jadepersonallyhe needs to find himself. He’s no 1D. What’s his identity. Who is Liam, what does he like, what music. He needs to do what he loves in order to be successful without looking for validation. If he’s genuine people will love his work.
@@agirlgirl2244 I agree 100%.
Liam still had his walls up in the video. I think he was genuinely sorry, for what he said but letting people in. Telling people about his anger and frustration is hard for him. People need to stop being so judgmental, he’s trying to apologize for his actions and reflect on them. I will always support Liam trough thick and thin ❤️❤️
This poor guy was so bullied.
Lord rest his soul.I seen that Logan podcast and I dont think he did anything wrong at all, I think his management team should have stopped him from drinking during interviews. I thought Liam showed a real side to him and became an instant fan of him. he was natural. I have to say there is a lot of cruel cold dark people in this world. He didnt do anyting wrong he told the truth, people dont like the truth in this world, people made a big thing out of nothing. Are they happy now!!! Rest easy Liam.
No, he wasn't ok. I am not trying to be funny.
One thing about Max is he will be honest 👏👏👏👏👏
He's gone, forever.😞💔
Obviously he wasn’t… the problem is not the individual it’s the industry ruining their life. The show business has to get cleaned up… mangers, agents, label bosses, hollyweird…. Celebs are given drugs to be better controlled by others and to stay productive. It’s a sick system
wowo yeah. I never thought about it all - but i don't doubt any of what you wrote
I was thinking about this after seeing so many posts after losing Liam, especially Robbie Williams' posts. Sadly, until those who are in financial control start recognizing humans as humans instead of cash machines it won't change. And a lot of people enjoy the debauchery and care nothing about the cost to others, in fact some are probably happy for situations like this because it means more clicks and views all while they continue being immoral vultures behind closed doors. Tbh this current situation reminds me of Elvis' death, so many people loved the entertainer yet those closest had lost control and he was gone way too soon. And I saw the family probably learned of Liam's death via online news - horrid stuff 😢
@@EmilyEmilyEmily01 you nailed it 👍🏼
@@Saaaaaaraaaaahhhh so many people don't want it to change and that is frustrating
10:00 is such an incredible saying 🥹
Liam is definitely addressing the audience here, and also opening up showing he has been reflective, to those around him, who probably were ones that came up to him and have made comments directly to him.
I liked all the comments that you made, Max, you were really seeing him. For what this is.❤ thank you for this video.
When is the Zayn interview coming mate ?
I have just rewatched this and well….you hit every nail on the head methinks. One question, he talks about ‘the many mistakes I’ve made….’ - was that the key? looking at the missteps, we all make mistakes/ do wrong as we grow and live, and hammering himself for them rather than accepting the mistakes and moving on? I always got the feeling with Liam that he could forgive everyone except himself. RIP Liam
An ADHD thing, thinking that you need to be perfect, leads to self-loathing which leads to people pleasing.
So hard to love yourself and living with the stupid things that we all do.
Perhaps he was on a journey to a better place, but so sad that it ended as it did. Why was he alone, he should never have been on his own........ 😢
look at his body language. the way he keeps looking to the side, scrunching up his face and just appearing in distress. so so many signs. i kinda fell off tuning into one direction members after their breakup just listen to their individual music.m, so i had no idea what was going on with liam until his death. just coming back and seeing this he looks so unhealthy and out of it. during 1D i know this sounds cringe, but his eyes twinkled so full of life and then seeing him before his death his eyes looked so dull and tired. I hope he can rest peacefully
literally exactly me too, after 1D broke up i strayed so far i didn’t really know anything about any of them aside from their big singles, except liam and louis, i was bit on the older side of directioners, i wasn’t a child, i was a teen, by the end of them i was 18 so it was ok, growing up, different music, etc. i barely knew liam had a child then he passed and i found out all of this, didn’t know he was an addict, i was and still am so so so so shocked because he was always so precious and the “dad”, serious, good boy, beautiful soul, and then i saw the kate’s tiktoks and he looks absolutely lost and sad 😞😞😞😞
You read him well, I agree with you 100%!
When he talks about cheryl and Bear and his intentions are so good...just sad after whats happened. Ty for back then having a kind view on him. I think the overdoing thing's or worrying about other people are difference in language emphasise between the US and UK. Thx anyways.
The alcohol and the drugs messed him up. It cost him his life in the end.
Everybody wants external validation. It’s human.
@@clairecarscallen some people more than others
I have watched some recent videos and it appears he didn't take his own life. Someone else did. Someone he trusted. He was thrown off the balcony. He heavily supported children's aid because i think he may had seen some things in bigger circles he wished he hadn't. Could this had lead to drug abuse and his demise? Who knows?
But i feel for his son and family who are left behind. Liam,came over as a kind and loving soul 💔
Despite having countless mental health issues and severe adhd that causes massive executive function issues…I always thought “if you get rich, your life will 100% be better. You will be happier. It’s impossible not to”. Then I had a PMDD episode. And it changed my perspective completely. Like I’d had depression before. But I always thought my depression would go away if the external causes for it weren’t there anymore. But the PMDD episode showed me that some people.. some people don’t even need an external reason, and their brain is tormenting them. It felt truly and wholly inescapable. My point is, it doesn’t matter how rich and successful you are, if your brain chemistry decides it… you’re going to go through hell. Period. I understood during those PMDD episodes that NOTHING would bring me out of it. It actually made me scared to have a kid. I would say things like “oh the birth of my child surely would bring me out of it!”. But I knee in my heart of hearts..no….no it wouldn’t. Not then. Which made me terrified of postpartum depression. I imagine it’s very similar to PMDD. That just… inescapable, unimaginable, “before you even open your eyes when you wake up you’re already in literal hell” sort of darkness. For some people.. it’s just temporarily inescapable. But that’s the important part. Is it temporary. You have to hang on to that fact with every fiber you have in you… you have to there is no other option.
He was not okay.
He was definitely trying to convince himself and ensure he held himself accountable. When you speak things into existence for millions of people to see, it kind of forces you to keep to your word, which is what I think he did or tried to do. This is all just too sad. May he rest in peace.
i feel all that u sensed is spot on
I wish the Logan Paul interview never happened 💔 it ended our Liam 😭🕊
Whos here sice his death ?😢
This is not how "One Direction" was supposed to be trending again💔
i don't think the cuts are his doing, there's probably someone else editing his videos
that's a good point... good chance it's not him
I think Max was somewhat tough on Liam and came across very skeptical. Maybe people can give Liam the benefit of the doubt on this one. Liam is still in a very tough place mentally and he does sound or feel like something is void in him. I think he is speaking from his heart. When you add the addiction on top of everything he has gone through it can't be easy to find your footing. I don't know what happened after his first solo tour and why he hasn't made more music til now. I don't think people understand his personality type. Being easy going and carefree has never been a part of Liam's DNA. He was also given such a tough position during the 1D years to be the Daddy... that could have affected him in the years since plus other opinions I have that I don't want to put here. I know so little about Liam, but my heart goes out to him and I hope people and fans rally around him and he feels the love again. It was great to hear that Niall and Louis were in studio with him and hopped on vocals for one of his songs.. hopefully it will make his album. Getting
Yep, I bet you'll be surprised by his transformation. Dude seems to have overcome his social anxiety.
I think the laugh when he said Logan Paul podcast was just him laughing off the pain. I feel like given how much hate he got it's very natural for him to try to prove himself. He got so much hate that now he trying his best to make everyone like him and i feel like that's just human instinct after having trauma like that. One thing i will say though living is the spotlight ,it's so much harder to please people. Everyone makes mistakes everyone has said hurtful things to people they love but his got pointed out cuz his was filmed and people had the opportunity to bully him for it through social media. I make mistakes nearly everyday and people have been hurt by my words before but Liam made one mistake and has to go through so much. It's so unfair and he doesn't deserve it at all. People are so cruel for making him go through hell for one mistake he made. You might think I'm saying all this cuz I'm biased but to be honest i could've stopped being a fan like a lotta fans did at that time but i didn't and there's a very logical reason as to why.
The laughing kinda seems like “oh my god did I actually go on that podcast”
it's really interesting to see your take on the video he posted. i watched it as it premiered, and my first thought was "poor Liam"
i don't know much about him, but he seemed almost scared to come out again after everything that happened. and i don't blame him.
he got A LOT of hate for what he said in the podcast. but i couldn't hate oon him for it.
was it wrong? yes of course, but seeing someone who is known to struggle with alcohol making those statements with a drink in his hand(!) i knew he wasn't in a good place.
i've been in a relationship with someone who also struggles with addiction, and if there's one thing i've learnt, it's that they under the influence of whatever they struggle with, they say a lot of things, that they would never ever dream about saying if they were in a good place. and the shame that comes with the realisation of the fact they screwed up, is imense.
the fact that he came out, and addressed it, is very brave on his part.
i do agree with you that in some parts he didn't look or sound as genuine as he maybe could've, i felt the same way as i was watching it.
but i gave it quite a bit of thought, and a lot of it is because he was trying a bit too hard i think, not because he wasn't honest.
part of a succesful recovery is making mends with the past, and let it go. what's done is done, and can't be undone.
i just hope and pray that fans will let go of the past too, and support him, cause he deserves it.
otherwise i'm afraid if he relapses again, he might not recover this time.
Sadly you were spot on 😢
@@jmw7152 but I wish I wasn't...
Damn wish he heard what you said at the end and felt it 😢