SimJack Ultimate+ | Minor improvements with Heusinkveld elastomers
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2023
- * Update: • SimJack Pro - adjust, ...
Hi!
I know the title of the video is a bit controversial, but don't worry SimJack is not Heusinkveld, even with their elastomers 😅
Anyway, the elastomers gave an excellent effect compared to what was at the beginning.
Although I mention it in the video, I will also write it here, Heusinkveld elastomers do not fit SimJack pedals without enlarging their holes. This can be difficult to do because they react differently than most elastomers.
If you already have SimJack pedals or you just want to buy them, I recommend watching my previous video:
• SimJack Pro - unboxing...
And this one as its continuation. If you are interested in a specific point of the program, here are the links:
00:36 Installing the rubber bushing covers
03:34 Woobling elimination (rods required)
04:19 Installation of elastomers
08:14 Brake pedal travel differences (different elastomer configuration)
08:38 My new thoughs
I also recommend watching:
- How hard is a race car brake (video from Asetek)
• Q&A Recap - How Hard i...
- Videos that inspired me (from Heusinkveld)
• Heusinkveld Sim Pedals...
• Heusinkveld Engineerin...
Links if you want buy:
SimJack Pro pedals
a.aliexpress.com/_EyMxl0x
Heusinkveld Sprint elastomer kit
heusinkveld.com/shop/sim-peda...
Heusinkveld Sprint elastomer kit (delivery from Poland)
simline.eu/produkt/elastomer-...
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For those who are not aware, WD40 is a penetrating, cleaning, and freeing oil. It is not a lubricant and leaving it on anything will attract dust and grit.
That is why using dry lubricant (PTFE or Silicon/PTFE mix) is so important. On high wear parts with a lot of movement in many dimensions, pack with lithium grease.
You should also use a thin layer of lithium grease on the ends of each rubber; you will thank me later!
I already heard about lithium grease and totally agree :)
Good to share knowledge 🤝 all people who read comments for sure can follow this and also get benefits.
How about silicone grease? I read that dry lubricant doesn't last very long? Also, Is it safe to apply PTFE and Silicon lube on these elastomers(plastic)?
@@LymarkW sorry but I don’t know… I also never tried any kind of grease on brake pressure pin or elastomers.
Are you sure that lithium grease you use is not petroleum based? Cause it will damage plastic and (maybe) elastomers. Silicone car parts (like intake pipes connectors) are probably petroleum proof.
Or if I'm wrong, please do correct me.
Thank's for this improvement research video 😄
That mod looks top notch and using HE custom elastomers is going to be great.
I am just trying out a full spring setup which is a huge improvement.
I like what you do here at the everlost Channel and have subscribed 👍
Good feeling with only springs system is hard to achieve. That’s why for example VRS use special lever which change progressives of the spring. But with you luck with this idea 😀
Maybe one day I will build whole pedal set again but for now I want to focus on racing 😅 diy took to much of my attention in last two years.
Thanks for sub 🙌
works fantastic, i did the Heusinkveld elastomer update and it feels 100 times better then the original simjack elastomers,i made a 8mm rod and 3d printed the spacers and endstop.Big thanks to Mr Everlost for all the information.
how did you make a 8mm rod?
@@Kurnazifysorry for the late reaction ,made from a solid stainless steel rod, custom made and threaded, which is quite difficult on stainless steel, but take your time and it will work out fine
good stuff 🎉
Best thing to do is replace all the elastomers with die springs of varying stengths. They remove the issue of elastomer relaxation dropping loadcell input reading. A nice progressive feel can still be achieved by using multiple short springs of increasing stiffness
Yeah I know about this but for now I will still use elastomers. Like this feeling and HE elastomers are good enough to stay with it a bit. I know about this problem with elastomers but it became more popular after RBM video. Cool solution was made in VRS brake but for now I just want drive a bit instead of neverending tweaking 😅
@@MR.EVERLOST totally understandable man! Awesome how small the sim community really is lol
Hey mate, did you do the spring mod on SJ ? I'm about to order die springs from Ali to do exactly this, replace my SJ pro rubbers with springs.... any suggestions on colors and lenghts? So far in the cart I have Green (Heavy) 20mm, Red (Medium) 25 and 35mm and Blue (Light) in 20 and 25mm....
@@fredmethot6116 I have csl elite v2 pedals. Replaced my elastomers with a green and blue die spring. Each 25mmx25mm. I would say the blue spring was roughly equivalent to a 65 shore elastomer and the green is roughly equivalent to an 85 shore one. That will change depending on spring diameter and length of course. As a rough estimate I’d say the yellow springs would be like a 50 shore and the red is like a 75. I believe the simjack pedals use all 65s.
so which spring are you using ? link? Thanks@@alecmillea4539
Nice video thank you for sharing
TY, but now I recomend change brake shaft to m8 and use HE elastomers directly from the box. You will find video about it in my channel 👌
hey, is there any chance you have the spec for the Ultimate's throttle spring?
No, don’t have it 😔
hi. where can i buy ultimate plus BRAKE SPRING?? (small balck spirng) i buyd heusinkveld ultimate plus upgrade kit, but in box dosent was spring....
This was custom order but you can check Venym products. You need spring, guide with positioner and spring limiter.
Thanks for uploading, are you able to share the files for the 3d printer parts by any chance?
Write me on IG (Mr.Everlost) I will try to help you but I don’t have it for share. You can design it easily because its just tubes with holes, super simple things to design.
Can you share the file to cut the metal parts out I have a cnc plasma cutter looking for a file?@@MR.EVERLOST
Hey everyone! I got the ultimate+ upgrade kit which also included the new control box. Anyone can confirm if it would work with the simjack pedals? Im not able to get any calibration to work.
Join to SimJack discord. Im pretty sure that someone confirm it will work with SimJack Pro. If you can’t calibrate pedals with DiView maybe your SimJack control box is broken.
Hi there,
Can you help me to find a spring like that? I have the ultimate kit and the simjack spring. It’s awful :(.
Thanks in advance
Write to me on discord or IG or FB.
hear me out, would it be a theoritic posibility to remove sim jack electronic parts like load cell and pots, and replace them with fanatec's from the v3 pedals. therefore allowing you to use these pedals on a fanatec base?
I did something similar with T3PA in the past but I designed whole construction to fit all electronics.
Today I think it isn’t worth it because it is expensive, time consuming and still you never know how it will work. I was happy with it for few years but I don’t see the point of such projects anymore. I guess you want to use it with console. If so, you probably heard lot of times that better way is upgrade it to PC and than use stuff from other brands. I think the same. PC gives possibilities, you can easily use Fanatec base with other brand pedals, shifters, handbrakes etc.
@@MR.EVERLOST yes I saw your other video before asking here. I was really impressed but I think you’re right about it not being worth it. There’s rumors of a podium pedal set coming out soon, also, the v3 are would probably be better than some Frankenstein build using it’s electronics.
you can buy the heusinkveld ultimate plus upgrade kit, that comes with a rod elastomers , the control box that allows you to run heusinkvelds smartcontrol software. and all you need is a rod extension and a sleeve bushing.
@@TheBbarrow79 yeah I know :) but don’t need it really, for now it’s enough good for me. Also I want to drive a bit instead of neverending tweaks :D but whole idea is great, especially because of benefits you mentioned.
@@TheBbarrow79 Be careful with using the He Ulti+ Upgrade Kit. The SimJacks are not a true 1:1 replica of the Hes like some other pedals are therefore the bushings, axles, elastomers, shaft length, diameter, etc. may not fit the SimJacks. Also, the He control box doesn't work. I tried it on 2 different sets of my non-SimJack pedals which are true replicas of the He Ultis.
great work, could you also provide the files for 3d printing, tks
Where we can get the spring? any reference? or guidance to get it?
Custom order in spring factory 😬
This one from venym is longer but maybe it is also good:
venym.com/collections/rubbers-springs/products/brake-spring
The key to success is spring with limiter inside. It gives you short spring compression and really cool feeling but it is not necessary. It is rather nice to have than must have.
can you share with us the new preload spring specs?
Since Heusinkveld does not make this information public, I don't think it would be right to post it here. If you need this spring for your own use, someone will surely share this information with you privately 👍
Also note that you may not need it at all. Often the preload spring is replaced with an additional elastomer or is completely blocked by metal coil. As far as I remember, it can be seen on one of Heusinkveld's videos, which are in the description.
i tried without preload spring, it feels too unnatural to me sadly. @@MR.EVERLOST
I would hope that someone would share the information with me privately as well ;)@@MR.EVERLOST
Do you have 3d print file ?
Of course :)
www.patreon.com/posts/99852233
I'm probably not gonna be able to justify any more big spending on my pc and rig so it's this worth it... I'm running modded Logitech g923 pedals with truebrake. I feel like its a no brainer but no harm in asking.
I have been using modified T3PA pedals for a long time. I also have a video about them on my channel. The most important thing is to be satisfied 😅
dont use WD40. use oil and grease
I used wd40 and dry grease and everything works fine. 0 squeaking + perfect smooth. Also rubber covers at the bottom help to stay bussings clean 🙃
i thought thats dragonball z music :D
I got the ACTUAL Heusinklveld Ultimate clones. They're not SimJack. I got them in black (so dumb that Heusinkveld doesn't offer then in black). They're basically identical to the Heusinkveld Ultimate non-plus. The throttle is so insanely smooth. 200 Kg load cell, 130 Kg max limit. Authentic German Fibrolast bushings / rubbers. Authentic Mavin loadcells, etc. They are TRULY the Heusinkveld Ultimate clones. Using FreeJoy, you get all the control - and more - that Heusinkveld (and other companies) offers with their SmartControl software. I don;'t know why every one only talks about the SimJacks and not these other ones. These non-SimJacks are proper He Ulti clones.
Yeah I know this pedals. They offer them in black and silver color and they looks almost 1:1 (a bit different bushing).
I wanted this pedals but price was higher than I can pay currently. That’s why everyone talk about SimJack Pro - the price… but if I be able to buy this black, I will do it instantly 😀
You talking about the Rui to, arent you 😏?
@@Eike_GP Rui?
@@MR.EVERLOST If you're talking about the bushings for the brake movement then they are 100% identical since they both use official Fibrolast brand bushings and same hardness (white = 70 hardness, green = 80 hardness).
@@Spinelli__ I talking about this pedals:
a.aliexpress.com/_EGAPbDp
Stock elastomers in SimJack Pro was just bad for me. Don’t know which one use Ruito but they looks identical as in SimJack Pro 🤷🏻♂️
In other words, it's still much easier & cheaper to simply buy higher-end pedals then to mod some of the cheaper ones on the market (of course, I respect the effort that went into modding these or T3PAs, but it's definitely not for me).
I totally agree with you. I like to say „pay once, cry once” but here I trusted people who wrote only good things about SimJack Pro pedals - thats why I share my thoughs in this and previous video. Unfortunately, the product straight from the box has some shortcomings for people who already understand what it's all about. The product is cheap, but to be really good, it needs a little help.
Still, if I had to choose (in this price range) between Thrustmaster, Fanatec and SimJack Pro pedals, I would choose SimJack Pro with mods.
Uhm no it's not 😂, I've paid in total 250 for my simjackpro pedals + heusinkveld elastomers. He ultimate + are what? €1000+ ? Anyone can do these mods in 2 hours.
@@Broodjemetbeleg HE pedals it’s different lvl of quality. They expensive but people buy them anyway so they stay expensive 😀not everyone can make this mods in 2hours if we talking about enlarging holes in latest sprint elastomers. If you have proper tools, sure but I meet few people who did it also and spend hours for looking for proper tool. Holes enlarging is not the best method but makes job done for me. One day I will change rod from 10 to 8.3mm anyway.
And about expensive pedals😀I know that HE, VRS, Simtrec etc make great products but after playing on Simucube active… just waiting for cheaper alternatives 😅
For now moded SJ Pro are good enough for me 🤓
@@Broodjemetbeleg How did you enlarge the hole to 10mm on the heusink elastomers?
for the money you are paying for i would expect better than this
not at all
250 Vs 1000 for the originals, uhm good luck finding anything close to this lol. Shitty Fanatec pedals are 300.
@@Broodjemetbeleg yeh mate these are the best bang for buck in sim racing @peterurban4754
Fanatec v3 are still better build quality 😂