Having owned both I can attest to the superior cleaning performance of a front loader. They win hands down in all situations. I do however have a $4,000 Miele front loader which is known for longevity and lasting performance. I think the reason so many American households have issues with mould is the way the appliance is used and limitations with the power supply. For instance, if you strictly use powder detergent, it contains bleaching agents which help prevent mould growth. However in the USA, Liquid detergent which doesn't contain bleaching agents is the preference. Additionally, its very big in the USA to use fabric softener and scent beads, all things that attract mould and trap dirt and odours in the machine. They also contain waxy residues which stay damp and promote mould growth. The reason your towels are coming out smelling musty is because the liquid detergent is unable to kill the bacteria, so then people have to add laundry sanitisers and scents to mask it. All additional expense and unnecessary if a good quality powdered detergent is used with bleaching agents. Liquid detergent really is only good for delicates and preserving colours because it doesn't contain bleach. Another point, in other countries, our machines will happily get up to 95 degrees Celsius, almost boiling point which keeps the machine spotless. However, due to 240 volt not being standard and the limitation of power supply, front loaders in the USA are reliant on the hot water supply which cannot match these temperatures. Combine that with the machines not having the power supply to quickly get the water up to temperature and the short wash cycles, you're creating an environment that promotes bacteria growth. Therefore, even performing cleaning cycles, the water simply cannot get hot enough to dissolve all the additives and unnecessary softeners people are running through their machine and cleanse away the buildup. My machine will alert me to perform a cleaning cycle or run a program above 60 degrees Celsius if I have done 5-6 loads consecutively under 60 degrees celsius. I have had many front loaders and never once have I had an issue with mould, I just leave the door open, I dont even wipe it. There's no secret, use the appropriate length cycle with out softeners or additives and a good quality powder detergent, leave the door ajar and once every so often run a hot cycle and the machine stays mould free. My issue with the top loader was it spun at 700RPM, it unbalanced all the time and the wash performance was poor. Additionally I was using 3 times the detergent. The Miele needs so little detergent and spins everything to 1600RPM. It makes a huge difference when it comes to dry times. Maybe this information will help someone who is struggling to prevent mould, hopefully its helpful to someone.
I use powder detergent . Ariel powder and i have a front loader for 4 years in my home plus my mom has a front loader for 10 years and never have mold problem .
I have tried both and I prefer top loaders because they rinse better by using more water, they are easier to load and unload, I can easily add stuff to them during the wash cycle and they don't have all the potential door problems (mold, leakage, etc.).
More water ≠ cleaner. One of those things that’s sounds right but isn’t supported by any tests. Buy a good front loader, and it will run 3 or 4 rinses with less water, draining after each one to remove residue. Also use less detergent to pair with the less water used by front loaders. The door gasket is the Achilles heal of front loaders though.
Tbh I dont get why you have mold issues, let alone leakage with front loaders. Ive been using frontloaders for all my life, theyre the norm here in germany. Mold wasnt a problem when I remebered to keep the door open afterwards. Leakage was never an issue. Maybe you didnt use the right type of detergents? Idk, Im using the german standard washing powder thats like ~10% bleach, sometimes also a "hygiene rinser" (not sure if thats the right translation) which is kinda of a biocide; especially useful for clothes you gotta wash below 40 degrees. Then keep the door open and its generally fine. I dont even do the super hot washing (german power slots are up 3800 watt, so you can go pretty hot) that some people reguarly do to keep things clean. Top loaders might have some advantages, but generally they seem outdated. Less efficient in energy and cleaning, even if theyre faster.
@@termitreter6545 I have had an LG front-loader for over 14 years, to and love it. Only repair I've done is replace the drum bearing, which I did myself. I've had it leak a very little bit, maybe 50ml, from the door seal if it is overloaded. That's operator error, and not design problem. I'd much rather a little water leak, than have oil leak into the drum. I've experienced oil leakage into the drum with top-loaders that were overloaded. Not a pleasant experience.
just updated from our 19 year old front load LGs that gave up finally.We NEVER had a mold problem at all.not sure if we got lucky or just did everything right.door was always left open after using and i did clean gasket but maybe 2-3 times a YEAR ....went with the LGs again and so far no complaints.wash twice as fast and even quieter than the old ones.very happy.
I disagree with the durability comment. Top loaders are more reliable. The cantilevered shaft on the front loader tub puts undue stress on the bearings and they wear out and need to be replaced. The gaskets on a front loader also need to be replaced. What if a gasket leaks and you get water all over your floor? It’s pretty obvious that front loaders need more maintenance. Also, it’s disengeneous to say that a front loader does a better job washing and then you says, “well if you’re a mechanic or a landscaper with really dirty clothes then the top loader cleans better.”
I agree with all your points. In fact, when I recently had to buy a new washer and dryer for my house, most of the reviews from customers who had experience with front loaders hated them. They complained about the mold issue, the fact that front loaders did not clean as well, and that they broke down all the time because of all the fancy features. Most reviewers just swore they would not ever buy another front loader.
Any washer can do a good job washing clothes. The trick is knowing how to use them. There's a lot more to a washer than just tossing in detergent and hitting the start switch.
I worked in a refugee center in Germany and we had 3 front loaders. The refugees would use them every single day, sometimes they will use them for hours at a time. Cleaned their dirty shoes to bed sheets, blanket and what not. None of them had any problems after 3 years of usage and still running properly. So no when it comes to durability and one knows how to use the machine properly, there won’t be any problem. My parents has top loaders and it not only use more water per cycle but also usage more energy. It also takes more time to clean because you need to put your clothes in the dryer by yourselves. On the other hand front loaders does everything. So for me I would always go for a front loaders because of efficiency and how it saves my time.
I had an LG front loader that lasted about ten years. I experienced the same problems that you stated, bearings and gasket wearing out. Moreover, mold problems on front loaders are prevalent.
I am fortunate in that I have two laundry rooms and therefore two matched pair, both from the same highly rated manufacturer. Both sets are top of the line. One set is top load and one set front load so I have long term, up close experience using and comparing both. The top loader consistently cleans better, it’s hands down a much better system and has become my preferred pair. I now only use the front loader as a back up when I either need a higher capacity (due to no agitator) or need to do two loads at once. When my front loader needs replacing I’ll be looking for a second top load set.
I have the same situation, one set of each type. The top of the line HE front loader has never given me any issues, except for what it is...doesn't use enough water. I use it for comforters. We are now buying the new top load with removable agitator which erases any consideration of ever again purchasing a front loader!
Well that makes it so much more difficult for me to decide. My biggest question is does the spin cycle bother you being lower? And the water usage being more? I have been looking at either a SQ TC5, or TR7 or their front loader FF7. Hubs says he would prefer front because of water usage. I have used a front loader last 20 years, so a little difficult to switch. But considering it. I do like to wash King cotton blankets from time to time. But they fit in my compact Asko. I thank you for your feedback.
Well I had a top leader for years always worked great. When I bought my 1st home we got a matching set of front loaders. 4 years later the washing machine drum cracked and flooded the garage. I will be going back to a top loader. 🤷♂️
We just bought a top loader washer and the matching dryer it’s being delivered tomorrow.When we looked at front loaders they are pretty modern looking which is why I was drawn to them but he (my husband)took one look bent down and was like nope I’m too tall he’s 6 foot so ultimately we went with the top loader(no agitator).The general consensus was that most people I talked to preferred top loaders which shocked me.
I am no expert but as a Chef , chef's coats can get pretty stained. I have a front loader for the last 10 years ( Fridgidaire Gallery Series) and i love it. For regular every day clothes i only use the quick wash 28/32 minutes cold water and they come out nice. For heavily stained whites from work i use the soak first with detergent ( cold water) no spin and i add a bit of bleach in the soak to dissolve blood stains. If I would use warm water it would set the stain in. Then i turn on the quick wash with no more detergent. Does a good job. I use Tide Powder as i noticed that it does a far superior job than any other brand i tried. I do not like the pods they leave residue .Also i can say that front loaders are easier on the clothes. Water and electricity are expensive where i live. I never in 10 years had a mould issue. I leave the door open as i throw my dirty clothes as i go. I do not separate 90% of my clothes, just the one that needs bleach and i use cold water only. Most people put way too much detergent. Do a test as i did. Put some clean bathroom towels back into the washer, turn on the hot water and see how the water looks like. If you have a lot suds you are using too much detergent regardless of the machine. 1 or 2 tablespoon of detergent is enough
Weight is another factor. Top loaders are a LOT lighter than a front loader, making them much easier to move around if you need to clean behind the machine or if you tend to move house occasionally. I switched from a front loader to a top loader and I love it. I only use liquid detergent which doesn’t leave residue in the machine, and I leave the top open after a wash with a little container full of silica gel packets to help dry the drum.
I live in the UK and I have used slimline toploaders for over 10yrs. The front-loading drum is turned 90 degrees and an access point is created in the drum... It's like having both machines in 1...
We have a set of GE Profile front loaders we bought in 2006 that are still going strong...until yesterday, the washer started burning rubber, literally. Smelled like a tire fire. Did some research and found that it is pretty much unrepairable, but 16 years, and the dryer still works! It makes some strange noises sometimes, but we are going in tonight to buy another new set of Profile's if we can find them.
I like to let laundry sit and soak, not possible with a front loader (or is it?) and I really wouldn't want to deal with mold issues. Thanks I wasn't aware of that. My winner is top loaders!🙂
Yep, powdered detergent with colour safe bleach and bleach activator (TAED, or NOBS) kills mould and bacteria:- ua-cam.com/video/1NmsV6XAbuY/v-deo.html Plus leave the draw and door open between washes.
Been using front loader for aeons as it's efficient, cleans well but has mold issue, long washing time (cotton at 60°C takes at least 1 hour and 40 minutes) and is more expensive. Now with back and knee issues, I'll go for top loaders which have seen great improvements in all areas by manufacturers. Like the faster wash too. Only downside is the water consumption although there has been improvements here.
Thank you for this video, it helps in making a buying decision. Two things: 1. What about gentleness? Does one of these designs treat clothes gentler than the other? 2. I’m not convinced that top loaders whose lids are kept closed after cycles are any less worse at mold than front loaders. A closed lid is a closed lid.
For my family, our large impeller Samsung top-load is the best. Kids sports gear that is dirty, and just a lot of dirty clothes, just do not clean as good in a front load. We went from a GE front load to the big Samsung top load last year and it has been great.
I just bought that 5.5 cu ft Samsung top-load impeller which I agree works really well. But 2 hours after Costco delivered it, they told me that there's been a recall on the washer and they have to come pick it up in a few days. So now I'm forced to find a replacement already!
I noticed my LG Top loader to be quieter compared to my Cousin's Front-loader. My Cousin's washer sounds like an Airplane engine and I could hear my cousin's washer even waiting in the Living room, while mine could not be heard at all stages of my washing process unless the beeper alerts me that the washing is done. The front loader's advantage is that you can stack baskets and other stuff on the machine's top side. The Toploader is a hassle when you have to remove anything on top of the washer every time I use the washer. All Front-loaders also use more electricity but less water. Top loaders use less electricity but more water. I was overwhelmed by all these decisions as I am looking for a new washer, just in case My current washer fails. My cabinet was custom-designed to adapt to either Top Loaders or Front loaders.
Actually front loading washing machines will use LESS water and LESS electricity and front loading washing machines are way more quieter when washing and noisy only when spinning
I have a front loader and my parent's LG top loader washes better. It has a turbo wash function which spins the entire drum which then shoots 6 jets of water and soap on to the clothes pulling it through the clothes. The way the impeller then rotates and the way it is designed, you can see how the clothes rub against each other and are turned around. The rinse is also more effective with an extra atomising jet spray that rinses during the rinse cycle. It's amazing honestly and you can fit much more in it. My clothes come out cleaner in an LG top loader. But only the LG one.
To me, that mold issue is worth at least 5 points on that scale. And to get the one you recommend not that much over cost of decent top, only time will tell if that mold issue was resolved or not, as for me, my washer n dryer are in my bathroom and I would not want mold to have any breeding ground so that I have to ramp up cleaning in my old age... thanks for vid..
Can only repeat what I said elsewhere, if you got mold, youre doing something wrong. Frontloaders are the norm in the country I live and mold isnt a major issue. I wonder if theres something many americans do different that doesnt translate quite as well to frontloaders? Maybe different detergents that are more adapted to toploaders or so. edit: Yeh just checked the washing machine. I really need to clean that thing, but no mold I can see.
@@termitreter6545 Or just leaving door open between loads, could be good in dry areas but bad in humid areas, will eventually give them a shot, just getting older, the least amount of work keeping it functioning the better, aka not into having to bend over n clean something on any schedule.. maybe win this Mega Millions then it would be someone else's concern..lol
Love the video. Many kudos to the team for the hard work. We had many heated arguments over each point in this video. Ultimately, John chose GE washer for his new home with pedestals (vented Ultrafresh series). Last month I really got tired of fighting mold in my front load washing machine and opted for a high-efficiency top loader. Some of our team members went back in time altogether and feel happier with a traditional agitator top load washer like the Speed Queen. Looking forward to seeing comments from our subscribers about their experiences. Thank you all for your support and time on our channel!!
What are your thoughts about the SQ FF7? I have an Asko now front load and no issues with mold or smell. So hard to decided between TC5, TC7 and FF7. I look forward to your response.
Our 12 year old mid grade GE front loader finally gave up the ghost two weeks ago. It has only ever had electronic problems, only twice, and only in the last two years. Our home warranty company declared it irreparable because the motor board isn’t available anymore and replaced it with a new GE model which has the venting feature. We’re planning to sell soon and leave it behind, but it will be interesting finding out if we like it before buying something for the new place. The matching gas dryer has never had a single problem and is still going strong. I do love a gas dryer.
Funny. I've got a 14 year-old LG front-loading washer, and I've NEVER had mold issues. I refrain from using too much detergent, use powder, and leave the door open after I'm done using it. Front-loading washers use less energy and water, remove more water from your clothes at the end of the cycle resulting in shorter drying time and saving even more energy, and clean clothes better. This is probably why all washers in Europe are front-loading. 🤔
As a dude who left the automotive repair Industry to Applaince industry I believe front Load is best due to low water usage and higher capacity however both need repairs and the front loaders are harder to work on but my vote is front load they literally pay for themselves if you have City water
I am a repair tech and I do not like any of the new washers front or top load. I would never go with GE laundry, new GE since Haier bought them has not impressed me at all. When customers ask I will recommend the speed queen TC5 its as close as you can get to an Old direct drive type washer. They are easier to repair and maintain, and do a great job of cleaning, and the lid doesn't lock! Even new top loaders with an agitator do not do as well as the old ones in my opinion. I like the mechanical timer over electronic controls and the cycle time are so much shorter. Something else from the repair stand point. when you stack them or shove them under the counter or in a tight closet there will be costs associated with this choice down the road. Plan an paying a lot extra in labor to service and repair, since there is more labor involved with unstacking and moving to access etc. It looks better but will cost you and they will break down. I regularly see machines less than 5 years old needing hundreds of dollars worth of repairs, control boards, drain pumps, spider arms, bearings valves etc. The old washers cost way less to repair and maintain.
I recently bought a GE top loader, but it was a model from a few years ago. Can you tell me how long ago Haier bought GE? All the repair people I spoke to also recommended Speed Queen, but they weren’t available when I was looking due to the supply chain issues. I opted for GE, as that was the other brand they all recommended. I am hoping my model is not one of the ones Haier manufactured.
I have a top loader and constantly have mold growing in the detergent compartment. I also struggle with unbalanced loads with the top loader and feel my front loader handled large loads such a blankets better. When this machine dies I will definitely replace it with a front loader.
@@HevaNaisdey I had an Electrolux front loader for two years and I loved it. I have a Miele now which is very good, very complicated though. The Electrolux got the job done in a very straight forward and easy to use manor. Electrolux do make very good products.
@@cosettapessa6417 there’s still a model above mine that costs $4999! If I’m honest, it’s a good machine but my previous Electrolux washer which was around $800 I thought did just as good of a job. Yes it didn’t have a touch screen and an app and all the programs but really…I use a cottons program 95 percent of the time. When it breaks I wouldn’t spend the money again if I’m honest. I just had a lot of issues start after about 3 years with the drum on the Electrolux I suspect it had been overloaded a few too many times and it had damaged so I went for the Miele hoping it lasts a long time because it’s a pain changing washers in an apartment complex and moving the dryer from the top etc.
I’ve use my Kenmore Elite Front load since 2013. I leave the door and detergent dispenser open at all times when not in use and I clean under the gasket and dry the door. I run the clean cycle with bleach once per month. I have never had any issue with mold at all
Europe here: we only have front loading machines and I never got issues with mold. Of course, the detergent chamber and the door must be left open after using it. Was a bitshocked about the huge amount of water get lost by using top loader. Doesn’t matter the money saving with front loader but for environment. Imagine everyone in US would change to front loader how much water can be saved for other usage
I have a top loader set from 2002. Analog. I’ve had to replace about $100 worth of parts in that time. New machines look cool but my old whirlpool machines work like champs.
I was hoping he would talk about maintenance because I am sure a front loader is harder and more expensive to maintain. I live in the tropical part of the world Jamaica 🇯🇲 so spinning the clothes to dry completely is not a challenge for me. I prefer the top loader.
Years ago we had a front loader and my husband made me get rid of it because of the mold. WE did everything right. There is no way we will be getting another one. I do know people who have not had this problem. I really want a Speed Queen TC but an trying to justify the $$$. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for your comprehensive review of top loaders vs. front loaders. Really helps to make a decision. Now I only have one question. Does ANY manufacturer still make the Cobalt Blue or Cherry Red sets? I would love to have a new washer/dryer set in either of these two colors.
At the end of the day the only test that mattered for me is how well it cleans the clothes, I have a front loader and rarely struggle with mould build up, the drawer gets put through the dishwasher, when there isn't as much to go in 🤷♀️, I want a washing machine that cleans the clothes the best and is cheap to run. I'm in the UK so have a plan with domestic and general, where I pay £5 per month, for unlimited repairs, unlimited parts and replacement if they can't fix the machine.
After using a front loader for 8 years I can't go back to a top loader. I always kept the door ajar and never had a mold problem even in humid Florida. I now take it a step further and give it a quick wipe with a rag at the end so it is not only mold free but stays looking like new.
Thank you for answering the truly important questions. My old Maytag is making noises I cannot comprehend but I assume that it means the machine seeks rest after 15 years of washing for a family of 5
LG top loaders are amazing. Everyone says front loaders wash better but LG is the exception. I have a front loader and my parent's LG top loader washes better. It has a turbo wash function which spins the entire drum which then shoots 6 jets of water and soap on to the clothes pulling it through the clothes. The way the impeller then rotates and the way it is designed, you can see how the clothes rub against each other and are turned around. The rinse is also more effective with an extra atomising jet spray that rinses during the rinse cycle. It's amazing honestly and you can fit much more in it. My clothes come out cleaner in an LG top loader. But only the LG one.
Still using our 1986 top loader basic model Maytag. We had to finally replace the matching dryer a couple of years ago and the metal housing is so much flimsier!
I like the balance feature in front loaders versus top loaders..The spin cycle can be lopsided in top loaders,Anonther plus with front loaders is that you use less water and soap.
We have a top loader, and yes you absolutely do have mold issues that must be taken care of! Once a month the detergent and fabric softener draws need to be cleaned, inside where bleach goes and the inside top of drum, all must be cleaned because of mold, so saying you do not have to worry about that with top loaders is completely false!
Miele front loader. End of discussion. Also I have never had an issue with mold in the tub/round the door etc. I wash at 60c for towels and bedding so mold isn’t an issue.
We have a 33 year old Inglis top loader. It just stopped spinning so I googled it and had it repaired for $12 in about an hour! (motor coupler) Still might buy a front loader though :)
Thanks for the video. My concern, however, is that my front load washer door bellow keeps ripping. The original bellow lasted 2 years and 7 months; the replacement one only lasted 1 year and 3 months.
Newer electrolux model now has a newly designed door hinge that can ajar. My last pair lasted 14 years. I secretly wanted it to break for so long bc newer models are so attractive
I forgot to mention that I am from the old school days so i was around with the very old agitator machines so i have gone through all the years and yes I have used modern side loaders both expensive and cheaper models.I have found the exact opposite of claims the top loading agitators are usually MUCH better at cleaning and i would know because i work in construction so my clothes are everyday VERY dirty.
I repair appliances for a living. I also prefer the front load over the top load. Asko makes a front load washer without the gasket/boot. I still haven't come across anyone who owns an Asko. Do Asko front load washers get any mold?
I work in the appliance world and the problem with asko appliances is they break down constantly. That’s why you rarely see people with them. I have a Miele washer and it’s good and an asko heat pump. In its first two years it was replaced once and the replacement has had six repairs. It’s just hit 2 and a half years old and I just hope it will keep running now the warranty is up as it cost $2229. I love their design and simplicity but it makes it hard to recommend them to anyone. Their washers also have issues with their seal falling off as it’s stuck onto the door instead of around the opening. Another common complaint I hear is they leak water all the time. Even from new. I would steer clear of asko. They make very aesthetic looking machines but for whatever reason when I talk to others who own them or customers they all suffered the same fate as me and said they wished they just went with Miele.
I'm looking for a washer. I have a top load washer. While still works, my frustration is with bulky items like comforters. The water seems not to cover it completely and when the washing cycle finishes, part of the bulky items seem dry while other parts that are not. I usually kind of turn the comforter with the dry side down and wash it again. I used to have a cheap very simple washer and when this happened, I could push I believe the close door button or sensor and it keep filling up with water. I can't do that with the new machine. 1. Can you recommend a washer with great capacity and that can handle bulky items? 2. Is there an online reference in terms of reliability? Where I can find which brands or models are more reliable according warranty /repair claims?
We have had front loaders all our lives. With the advent of HE, they clean less and less. They seem to excel at not using water.... The only machines that seem to still clean clothes are the commercial models from Maytag and SpeedQueen. And they are top loaders. Water is needed to wash clothes.
What I see is the industry turnabout toward the best: Early '70s top of the lines, sans computer chip, full control by the adults who use them. We can hope to see that day!
Ok..... What about how when you try to grab an armful of clothes from the front loader to put into the dryer and half of them fall onto the floor-- Every Single Time. Also, I heard that front loaders have to have the tube drained or it'll get moldy??? Sounds like a lot of extra work.....
Sorry not getting a front loader. Also there are models for apartments. We have a GE top loader washer, with a front loader dryer. It's a one piece unit. You can't separate them. But my top loader will wash in 25 minutes, verse my son inlaws 54mim. When you have perhaps 4 loads to do, which am I going to pick?
Good reviews. We have a 5 acre farm property and have a Speed Queen top loader with an agitator and it is WAY better at cleaning dirty farm clothes. At home? An Electrolux front load and it is so good that I hardly have to pre-treat.
in the former gdr we got the best of both world, the FORON toplader vm 560 was a, well the name sugest it, toploader but with a drumm that worked like a frontloader ...and in the commu görman there was one more "dont lough...wörk wörk wörk!"
Can you help me? We are getting ready to buy a new washer and dryer. We’re thinking about a front load washer since we are senior citizens. The mold collecting on the gasket is a concern to me. This past year, we had the crawl space under the house encapsulated, as well as mold remediation done in and under the house. We are located at the foot of a hill, so we have moisture runoff. Having done these home repairs, would a front load machine be a mold problem for us?
Front load mold issues are customer abuse cases, every time. The industry failed to educate the customer on how to use the front loader correctly. Once you understand how to use one correctly, you will not have a mold issue.
@@Ryan-re1rs No cleaning. Just wipe out of the moisture around the door and seal that exists right after using it. Then unplug the machine and leave the door slightly opened to evaporate the remaining moisture.
I'm in Germany and I have never seen mold in front loaders. And I only see front loaders here. What the fuck are you guys doing over there that your front loaders start to mold?
I am sorry but grease will not be removed in a top load machine. It can’t. It’s like rinsing a greasy cloth in sink full of soapy water, rather than a saturated cloth with the detergent on it and squeezing it with your hands, the detergent will be more concentrated, forcing the detergent through the fibres, cutting through the grease. In a top load washer, you would have to pre treat any type of stains or with the grease, use an absurd amount of detergent to get the grease out, which is practical. Concentrated cleaning is much better, with the combined force of gravity and clothes rubbing against each other, in a front loader.
Exactly. What is the point of a washing machine that cannot clean actual dirty clothes, lol ! A puddle of water is not going to clean as well as being submerged in water.
LOL first time I ever heard someone say a front loader cleans better than a top loader. Not to mention top loaders are much more reliable and durable. Only thing I like about front loader is noise but thats it. I guess this is like Twitter/Social Media vs the real world.
Every professional testing organisation says in all their results front loaders remove stains and clean better then any top loader offered on the market. Good house keeping, choice reviews. All of them. It’s not a myth it’s true. They clean clothes much better. I have owned both and I couldn’t agree more they make clothes look so much cleaner and remove stains i couldn’t get out in the top loader after many many washes. Even old set in stains I had for years after their first wash when I made the switch I was shocked to see gone. However I don’t buy that they are gentle on clothes. I throw away so many pairs of underwear with holes and I don’t ever recall doing that with such frequency when I had a top load washer.
@@lukiejames I know all the testing organizations say that, but coming from someone who recently bought a washer and read hundreds of reviews from actual customers who had front loaders, I can tell you that they constantly said how front loaders did not clean their clothes as well as the top loader they had previously, and that they broke down all the time because of all the fancy electronics. I tend to believe actual users more than professional organizations who may have a conflict of interest or other bias.
@@MaryBethMcCoy and those consumers who used copious amounts of fabric softeners, didn’t do maintenance and used the incorrect cycles should be our gold standard for how we form our purchase making decisions. That makes a lot of sense Mary doesn’t it? Absolutely not. Over 90 percent of consumers never read the manual.
@@lukiejames I agree with that last statement, for sure. Fortunately, I am one of the few who does read the manual cover to cover. I am sure there are consumers who don’t use their washers correctly, but I am just saying that there are so many who prefer the old school basic top loader washers with agitators that are simple to use and get clothes clean. Especially with the advent of HE, which barely uses enough water to cover the clothes, making getting them clean more difficult. Fortunately, the GE top load model I got allows you to add water and has some settings I can use so I can get a full tub.
@@MaryBethMcCoy so I’m not in the us which I picked up on because you said GE. However, for whatever reason maybe your government regulations I agree. The HE top loaders you guys have are really very useless. I have seen so many videos of them not using water. It’s really bad. Some peoples clothes come out half dry! I don’t know who tests them but surely they know they are not doing the job properly when they release them for sale. I did some research a while ago and apparently in the us, even though it’s “cheap” the amana?? With agitator works just like the old fashioned washers and gives good results. I often wonder why though so many families in the us are only getting 3-4 years out of their machines. On average they last most people here 9-10 years. In other countries like mine, the HE washers without the agitator, clean just as well as an agitator washer because they actually fill up with water and cover the clothes completely. Before front loaders I had a Samsung top load HE and it covered the clothes in water and then pulled them through the water with such force. It also had an aqua plus setting to add more water if needed but most of the time it always got the water level right. It did a pretty good job but the spin speed was very slow 740rpm versus my 1600rpm front load. So clothes took a while in the dryer. When I had a washer with an agitator it always stretched my clothes terribly and made my shirts look stretched but as many was what I grew up with. I think the issue with many front loaders in the USA is that the cycles have been shortened for the market. Here a standard load takes 2 and a half hours. Things come out very clean and very well spun. Because we have 240volt power as well, our washers will get up to almost boiling if we want them to. However with 110v connections the washers can’t draw enough power to heat the water enough for the front loaders and regulations don’t allow the home water supply to be hot enough/by the time the water gets to the washer it’s already filled up with the cold water from the pipes.
I could go look at my time tested Whirlpool W&D and give the model numbers but I'm sure 20 years later they don't make the same set. Never a breakdown, never a part replacement..........Also not everyone buys water, water cost nothing but electric to pump it, and saving water when you're surrounded by water is not an issue. My water goes back into the ground when I'm done with it.............Admittedly the front loaders do look better but since my W&D is not in my living room I really don't care.
Do your ge washer on a pedestal shake bad on the spin cycle because my ge washer shakes really bad on a pedestal. The place I got it from installed it and level it but still shakes really bad on the pedestal. I think if I take it off the pedestal it would not shake anymore what do you think.
I have the top loader LG that was recommended by Consumer Reports. It does not clean well at all. I would love to go back to my 20 year old Maytag with an agitator. I don't understand why it washes with so little water and no agitator. What am I doing wrong?
Haha. They referenced a comment on their previous video where a guy commented he was watching a video on washing machines instead of studying for his finals tomorrow. :D
My mother has a top-loader, and it smells musty. We have to run it with tabs on the sanitize cycle every few months. Meanwhile, my 30 year old Miele front loader has never had any mold in it.
Are there any front loader washer and dryer combo units that do need venting because they use hot air to dry? The ventless condensation drying tends to leave clothes still damp
"Leave the door open" is a chore? ... lol? Here is the thing: So far, I'd never had to clean the rubber gasket thoroughly. My machine is 10 years old. There is no mold, and there isn't even any residue that I could clean. And how did I do that? I use powder detergent and no softener and leave the door open after wash. Occasionally, I do use wash programs with a temperature above 60C. It's that easy.
When he said you cant stack a top with a dryer is wrong depends on ur ceiling height. I have a top with a dryer above attached to wall with brackets worked well for 20 years so its 5 / 5 now. Every person ive talked to say front loader but as im 6 4 height and 55yo do i want to be bending to max when im in my 70s ???? Also the foot print is smaller with top loader and prices in Australia are roughly same but front generally bit cheaper not a deal breaker. Its very close for me could go either way ive narrowed down to 1 x top and 1 x front not much in it will see what store rep says.
I moved into an apartment that has a Westinghouse smart washing machine front loader. my thing is there's no instruction really how to use it you just go with your gut and learn it that way, that is why I am on UA-cam trying to learn how to use it.
Mold. Our frontloading washer doesn't sit still long enough to grow any mold. It seems to clean better than our top-loader (the back-up for when (not if) bearings go bad on the front-loader) . The front-loader drum works basically like banging the laundry on rocks at the river, like has been done for centuries, with the drums being much smoother than rocks.
Correct! UA-cam has all kinds of videos showing you how to override the amount of water your front loader wants to use. That's because people are used to seeing their clothes soaking in a top loader and they want the drum of their front loader full of water too. That's not how front loaders work! They repeatedly dip the clothes into a relatively shallow pool of soapy water, then lift it up and drop it down. If the drum is full of water, there's virtually no "smack" effect when it hits the bottom of the drum like you'd get from whacking clothes on a rock, hence cleaning is actually reduced.
There is no discussion about spacing required behind or on sides for Front loaders or top loaders. My concern also includes space limitations. I have older top load washer and dryer and although they are not apartment size the measurements on width are 3" less then the average width of the top loader or front loaders. Making my for less options to fit in a set of top load washer with dryer. Can you address space required to make choices please.
My GE HE top-loader is extremely damaging on all fabrics, so I can only use the "delicates" cycle. Even then I only add items after 1/2 of that cycle is over. I'll NEVER buy any washer with a washer plate again. In order to reduce even "delicate" cycle damage I must use extra water. There goes the "HE" aspect.
In Europe we don't have anything that would resemble your top loaders. Our top loaders are just like front loaders but with a hatch in the drum. Last time I saw something like your top loaders was in the 80s and it was already ancient and hadn't been in use for decades at that time.
So interesting, every front I've ever used has been terrible on washing performance and ringing out water, and why do American top loaders look 30 yrs old? .... In saying that, I do use a Fisher & Paykel top loader which is amazing so perhaps it's just the brand and design
Every comparison UA-cam channel: "We'll give you a definitive answer", "blah blah blah blah", "Well it depends what you want...."
Lol
Having owned both I can attest to the superior cleaning performance of a front loader. They win hands down in all situations. I do however have a $4,000 Miele front loader which is known for longevity and lasting performance. I think the reason so many American households have issues with mould is the way the appliance is used and limitations with the power supply.
For instance, if you strictly use powder detergent, it contains bleaching agents which help prevent mould growth. However in the USA, Liquid detergent which doesn't contain bleaching agents is the preference. Additionally, its very big in the USA to use fabric softener and scent beads, all things that attract mould and trap dirt and odours in the machine. They also contain waxy residues which stay damp and promote mould growth. The reason your towels are coming out smelling musty is because the liquid detergent is unable to kill the bacteria, so then people have to add laundry sanitisers and scents to mask it. All additional expense and unnecessary if a good quality powdered detergent is used with bleaching agents. Liquid detergent really is only good for delicates and preserving colours because it doesn't contain bleach.
Another point, in other countries, our machines will happily get up to 95 degrees Celsius, almost boiling point which keeps the machine spotless. However, due to 240 volt not being standard and the limitation of power supply, front loaders in the USA are reliant on the hot water supply which cannot match these temperatures. Combine that with the machines not having the power supply to quickly get the water up to temperature and the short wash cycles, you're creating an environment that promotes bacteria growth. Therefore, even performing cleaning cycles, the water simply cannot get hot enough to dissolve all the additives and unnecessary softeners people are running through their machine and cleanse away the buildup. My machine will alert me to perform a cleaning cycle or run a program above 60 degrees Celsius if I have done 5-6 loads consecutively under 60 degrees celsius.
I have had many front loaders and never once have I had an issue with mould, I just leave the door open, I dont even wipe it. There's no secret, use the appropriate length cycle with out softeners or additives and a good quality powder detergent, leave the door ajar and once every so often run a hot cycle and the machine stays mould free.
My issue with the top loader was it spun at 700RPM, it unbalanced all the time and the wash performance was poor. Additionally I was using 3 times the detergent. The Miele needs so little detergent and spins everything to 1600RPM. It makes a huge difference when it comes to dry times.
Maybe this information will help someone who is struggling to prevent mould, hopefully its helpful to someone.
Wow Luke! That was great information. Thank you for taking the time to comment here. I will be mindful of your tips when doing laundry here on out.
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I use powder detergent . Ariel powder and i have a front loader for 4 years in my home plus my mom has a front loader for 10 years and never have mold problem .
@@veronasaramati8627 true. Powder is the best.
You should almost never use a hot wash cycle if you care about your clothes
My back prefers top loaders💕
☝️😂👍 true that
Why? When you want to unload you need to bend too. And you can just put a chair in front of your front loader
@@manuel0578 at least for me, top loaders requires less bending. And... I can open the door whenever I need :)
@@LucianaVIP1 I can open the door of my front loader whenever I want 🤔
@@manuel0578 sorry for my ignorance...but, you open it in the middle of washing, full of water?
I have tried both and I prefer top loaders because they rinse better by using more water, they are easier to load and unload, I can easily add stuff to them during the wash cycle and they don't have all the potential door problems (mold, leakage, etc.).
Sounds like you forget to put items in often
More water ≠ cleaner. One of those things that’s sounds right but isn’t supported by any tests. Buy a good front loader, and it will run 3 or 4 rinses with less water, draining after each one to remove residue. Also use less detergent to pair with the less water used by front loaders. The door gasket is the Achilles heal of front loaders though.
Tbh I dont get why you have mold issues, let alone leakage with front loaders. Ive been using frontloaders for all my life, theyre the norm here in germany. Mold wasnt a problem when I remebered to keep the door open afterwards. Leakage was never an issue.
Maybe you didnt use the right type of detergents? Idk, Im using the german standard washing powder thats like ~10% bleach, sometimes also a "hygiene rinser" (not sure if thats the right translation) which is kinda of a biocide; especially useful for clothes you gotta wash below 40 degrees. Then keep the door open and its generally fine. I dont even do the super hot washing (german power slots are up 3800 watt, so you can go pretty hot) that some people reguarly do to keep things clean.
Top loaders might have some advantages, but generally they seem outdated. Less efficient in energy and cleaning, even if theyre faster.
@@termitreter6545 I have had an LG front-loader for over 14 years, to and love it. Only repair I've done is replace the drum bearing, which I did myself.
I've had it leak a very little bit, maybe 50ml, from the door seal if it is overloaded. That's operator error, and not design problem. I'd much rather a little water leak, than have oil leak into the drum. I've experienced oil leakage into the drum with top-loaders that were overloaded. Not a pleasant experience.
@@Pheckphul1 Man, I just love it when you can buy an appliance and it just doesnt break for more than a decade.
Sadly pretty rare these days^^
just updated from our 19 year old front load LGs that gave up finally.We NEVER had a mold problem at all.not sure if we got lucky or just did everything right.door was always left open after using and i did clean gasket but maybe 2-3 times a YEAR ....went with the LGs again and so far no complaints.wash twice as fast and even quieter than the old ones.very happy.
I disagree with the durability comment. Top loaders are more reliable. The cantilevered shaft on the front loader tub puts undue stress on the bearings and they wear out and need to be replaced. The gaskets on a front loader also need to be replaced. What if a gasket leaks and you get water all over your floor? It’s pretty obvious that front loaders need more maintenance. Also, it’s disengeneous to say that a front loader does a better job washing and then you says, “well if you’re a mechanic or a landscaper with really dirty clothes then the top loader cleans better.”
I agree with all your points. In fact, when I recently had to buy a new washer and dryer for my house, most of the reviews from customers who had experience with front loaders hated them. They complained about the mold issue, the fact that front loaders did not clean as well, and that they broke down all the time because of all the fancy features. Most reviewers just swore they would not ever buy another front loader.
Any washer can do a good job washing clothes. The trick is knowing how to use them. There's a lot more to a washer than just tossing in detergent and hitting the start switch.
I worked in a refugee center in Germany and we had 3 front loaders. The refugees would use them every single day, sometimes they will use them for hours at a time. Cleaned their dirty shoes to bed sheets, blanket and what not. None of them had any problems after 3 years of usage and still running properly. So no when it comes to durability and one knows how to use the machine properly, there won’t be any problem.
My parents has top loaders and it not only use more water per cycle but also usage more energy. It also takes more time to clean because you need to put your clothes in the dryer by yourselves. On the other hand front loaders does everything. So for me I would always go for a front loaders because of efficiency and how it saves my time.
I had an LG front loader that lasted about ten years. I experienced the same problems that you stated, bearings and gasket wearing out. Moreover, mold problems on front loaders are prevalent.
3 years isn't a very long time. If a washer lasts 7 - 8 years without breaking down it's a good washer IMO.
I am fortunate in that I have two laundry rooms and therefore two matched pair, both from the same highly rated manufacturer. Both sets are top of the line. One set is top load and one set front load so I have long term, up close experience using and comparing both. The top loader consistently cleans better, it’s hands down a much better system and has become my preferred pair. I now only use the front loader as a back up when I either need a higher capacity (due to no agitator) or need to do two loads at once. When my front loader needs replacing I’ll be looking for a second top load set.
I have the same situation, one set of each type. The top of the line HE front loader has never given me any issues, except for what it is...doesn't use enough water. I use it for comforters. We are now buying the new top load with removable agitator which erases any consideration of ever again purchasing a front loader!
What is the idea of removing the aggrigator
Brand and model of topload please
@@akhisalaam Speed Queen TR5
Well that makes it so much more difficult for me to decide. My biggest question is does the spin cycle bother you being lower? And the water usage being more? I have been looking at either a SQ TC5, or TR7 or their front loader FF7. Hubs says he would prefer front because of water usage. I have used a front loader last 20 years, so a little difficult to switch. But considering it. I do like to wash King cotton blankets from time to time. But they fit in my compact Asko. I thank you for your feedback.
Well I had a top leader for years always worked great. When I bought my 1st home we got a matching set of front loaders. 4 years later the washing machine drum cracked and flooded the garage. I will be going back to a top loader. 🤷♂️
We just bought a top loader washer and the matching dryer it’s being delivered tomorrow.When we looked at front loaders they are pretty modern looking which is why I was drawn to them but he (my husband)took one look bent down and was like nope I’m too tall he’s 6 foot so ultimately we went with the top loader(no agitator).The general consensus was that most people I talked to preferred top loaders which shocked me.
Top loading machines look plenty modern. Real goats dont care how they look
I am no expert but as a Chef , chef's coats can get pretty stained. I have a front loader for the last 10 years ( Fridgidaire Gallery Series) and i love it. For regular every day clothes i only use the quick wash 28/32 minutes cold water and they come out nice. For heavily stained whites from work i use the soak first with detergent ( cold water) no spin and i add a bit of bleach in the soak to dissolve blood stains. If I would use warm water it would set the stain in. Then i turn on the quick wash with no more detergent. Does a good job. I use Tide Powder as i noticed that it does a far superior job than any other brand i tried. I do not like the pods they leave residue .Also i can say that front loaders are easier on the clothes. Water and electricity are expensive where i live. I never in 10 years had a mould issue. I leave the door open as i throw my dirty clothes as i go. I do not separate 90% of my clothes, just the one that needs bleach and i use cold water only.
Most people put way too much detergent. Do a test as i did. Put some clean bathroom towels back into the washer, turn on the hot water and see how the water looks like. If you have a lot suds you are using too much detergent regardless of the machine. 1 or 2 tablespoon of detergent is enough
@frrnchistibe all your test proves is that the machine doesn't rinse well. A standard top loader cannot be beat in that regard.
Weight is another factor. Top loaders are a LOT lighter than a front loader, making them much easier to move around if you need to clean behind the machine or if you tend to move house occasionally. I switched from a front loader to a top loader and I love it. I only use liquid detergent which doesn’t leave residue in the machine, and I leave the top open after a wash with a little container full of silica gel packets to help dry the drum.
All washer are heavy some just more heavier depending on the size..
Weight doesn't really matter tho but yeah
I went totally old school. I found myself a big rock.
No repairs. No maintenance. No mold.
So is it a top loader. Looking for a good washing machine too .
@@savi7493 He said old school and no repairs. He clearly meant a top loader.
@@Warp2090 Thank you. I got a Samsung front loader. Doing good so far.
@@savi7493 Dang. Samsung is known to be very unreliable. good luck tho
@@Warp2090 Yes when I found out after doing a lot of research I had already made the purchase. But so far it’s okay. 🙏
I live in the UK and I have used slimline toploaders for over 10yrs. The front-loading drum is turned 90 degrees and an access point is created in the drum... It's like having both machines in 1...
We have a set of GE Profile front loaders we bought in 2006 that are still going strong...until yesterday, the washer started burning rubber, literally. Smelled like a tire fire. Did some research and found that it is pretty much unrepairable, but 16 years, and the dryer still works! It makes some strange noises sometimes, but we are going in tonight to buy another new set of Profile's if we can find them.
I like to let laundry sit and soak, not possible with a front loader (or is it?) and I really wouldn't want to deal with mold issues. Thanks I wasn't aware of that. My winner is top loaders!🙂
I've had a front loader for almost 2 decades. I always leave the door open until It's completely dry, and I still battle mold.
I think mold feeds on detergent, so try using less of that.
I leave the door open until I use the machine, I prefer a front loader by a long shot.
Use powdered detergent with color safe bleach. Works every time.
Dampness and temperature cause mold! Not detergent!
Yep, powdered detergent with colour safe bleach and bleach activator (TAED, or NOBS) kills mould and bacteria:- ua-cam.com/video/1NmsV6XAbuY/v-deo.html
Plus leave the draw and door open between washes.
Been using front loader for aeons as it's efficient, cleans well but has mold issue, long washing time (cotton at 60°C takes at least 1 hour and 40 minutes) and is more expensive. Now with back and knee issues, I'll go for top loaders which have seen great improvements in all areas by manufacturers. Like the faster wash too. Only downside is the water consumption although there has been improvements here.
Just put a chair next to your front loader. Problem solved.
Thank you for this video, it helps in making a buying decision. Two things:
1. What about gentleness? Does one of these designs treat clothes gentler than the other?
2. I’m not convinced that top loaders whose lids are kept closed after cycles are any less worse at mold than front loaders. A closed lid is a closed lid.
Good and well presented vid. However it is known that front loaders are more complex to access parts and therefore repair costs are higher.
For my family, our large impeller Samsung top-load is the best. Kids sports gear that is dirty, and just a lot of dirty clothes, just do not clean as good in a front load. We went from a GE front load to the big Samsung top load last year and it has been great.
I just bought that 5.5 cu ft Samsung top-load impeller which I agree works really well. But 2 hours after Costco delivered it, they told me that there's been a recall on the washer and they have to come pick it up in a few days. So now I'm forced to find a replacement already!
Agitators clean better.
I noticed my LG Top loader to be quieter compared to my Cousin's Front-loader. My Cousin's washer sounds like an Airplane engine and I could hear my cousin's washer even waiting in the Living room, while mine could not be heard at all stages of my washing process unless the beeper alerts me that the washing is done. The front loader's advantage is that you can stack baskets and other stuff on the machine's top side. The Toploader is a hassle when you have to remove anything on top of the washer every time I use the washer. All Front-loaders also use more electricity but less water. Top loaders use less electricity but more water. I was overwhelmed by all these decisions as I am looking for a new washer, just in case My current washer fails. My cabinet was custom-designed to adapt to either Top Loaders or Front loaders.
Actually front loading washing machines will use LESS water and LESS electricity and front loading washing machines are way more quieter when washing and noisy only when spinning
I have a front loader and my parent's LG top loader washes better. It has a turbo wash function which spins the entire drum which then shoots 6 jets of water and soap on to the clothes pulling it through the clothes. The way the impeller then rotates and the way it is designed, you can see how the clothes rub against each other and are turned around. The rinse is also more effective with an extra atomising jet spray that rinses during the rinse cycle. It's amazing honestly and you can fit much more in it. My clothes come out cleaner in an LG top loader. But only the LG one.
@@stephensnell1379 Yeah they use less resources because they don't clean as well.
@@SDav21 Bot
To me, that mold issue is worth at least 5 points on that scale. And to get the one you recommend not that much over cost of decent top, only time will tell if that mold issue was resolved or not, as for me, my washer n dryer are in my bathroom and I would not want mold to have any breeding ground so that I have to ramp up cleaning in my old age... thanks for vid..
Can only repeat what I said elsewhere, if you got mold, youre doing something wrong. Frontloaders are the norm in the country I live and mold isnt a major issue. I wonder if theres something many americans do different that doesnt translate quite as well to frontloaders? Maybe different detergents that are more adapted to toploaders or so.
edit: Yeh just checked the washing machine. I really need to clean that thing, but no mold I can see.
@@termitreter6545 Or just leaving door open between loads, could be good in dry areas but bad in humid areas, will eventually give them a shot, just getting older, the least amount of work keeping it functioning the better, aka not into having to bend over n clean something on any schedule.. maybe win this Mega Millions then it would be someone else's concern..lol
@@craiggerlach5548 Tbf if top loader works for you, why not. Just saying that mold doesnt need to be that big of issue^^
Love the video. Many kudos to the team for the hard work. We had many heated arguments over each point in this video. Ultimately, John chose GE washer for his new home with pedestals (vented Ultrafresh series). Last month I really got tired of fighting mold in my front load washing machine and opted for a high-efficiency top loader. Some of our team members went back in time altogether and feel happier with a traditional agitator top load washer like the Speed Queen. Looking forward to seeing comments from our subscribers about their experiences. Thank you all for your support and time on our channel!!
Just not true idiot, gravity works better on top
What are your thoughts about the SQ FF7? I have an Asko now front load and no issues with mold or smell. So hard to decided between TC5, TC7 and FF7. I look forward to your response.
Our 12 year old mid grade GE front loader finally gave up the ghost two weeks ago. It has only ever had electronic problems, only twice, and only in the last two years. Our home warranty company declared it irreparable because the motor board isn’t available anymore and replaced it with a new GE model which has the venting feature. We’re planning to sell soon and leave it behind, but it will be interesting finding out if we like it before buying something for the new place.
The matching gas dryer has never had a single problem and is still going strong. I do love a gas dryer.
Funny. I've got a 14 year-old LG front-loading washer, and I've NEVER had mold issues. I refrain from using too much detergent, use powder, and leave the door open after I'm done using it.
Front-loading washers use less energy and water, remove more water from your clothes at the end of the cycle resulting in shorter drying time and saving even more energy, and clean clothes better. This is probably why all washers in Europe are front-loading. 🤔
you are absolutely correct about your statement. Europe does not have to loader and yes the front loader removes more water.
As a dude who left the automotive repair Industry to Applaince industry I believe front Load is best due to low water usage and higher capacity however both need repairs and the front loaders are harder to work on but my vote is front load they literally pay for themselves if you have City water
You clearly aren't very smart with appliances if you think using less water is good. Top loaders clean better, so they use more water
I am a repair tech and I do not like any of the new washers front or top load. I would never go with GE laundry, new GE since Haier bought them has not impressed me at all. When customers ask I will recommend the speed queen TC5 its as close as you can get to an Old direct drive type washer. They are easier to repair and maintain, and do a great job of cleaning, and the lid doesn't lock! Even new top loaders with an agitator do not do as well as the old ones in my opinion. I like the mechanical timer over electronic controls and the cycle time are so much shorter. Something else from the repair stand point. when you stack them or shove them under the counter or in a tight closet there will be costs associated with this choice down the road. Plan an paying a lot extra in labor to service and repair, since there is more labor involved with unstacking and moving to access etc. It looks better but will cost you and they will break down. I regularly see machines less than 5 years old needing hundreds of dollars worth of repairs, control boards, drain pumps, spider arms, bearings valves etc. The old washers cost way less to repair and maintain.
I recently bought a GE top loader, but it was a model from a few years ago. Can you tell me how long ago Haier bought GE? All the repair people I spoke to also recommended Speed Queen, but they weren’t available when I was looking due to the supply chain issues. I opted for GE, as that was the other brand they all recommended. I am hoping my model is not one of the ones Haier manufactured.
Great advice
I have a top loader and constantly have mold growing in the detergent compartment. I also struggle with unbalanced loads with the top loader and feel my front loader handled large loads such a blankets better. When this machine dies I will definitely replace it with a front loader.
Get a top tier electrolux
@@HevaNaisdey I had an Electrolux front loader for two years and I loved it. I have a Miele now which is very good, very complicated though. The Electrolux got the job done in a very straight forward and easy to use manor. Electrolux do make very good products.
@@lukiejames are you in europe?
@@cosettapessa6417 I am in Australia.
@@cosettapessa6417 there’s still a model above mine that costs $4999! If I’m honest, it’s a good machine but my previous Electrolux washer which was around $800 I thought did just as good of a job. Yes it didn’t have a touch screen and an app and all the programs but really…I use a cottons program 95 percent of the time. When it breaks I wouldn’t spend the money again if I’m honest. I just had a lot of issues start after about 3 years with the drum on the Electrolux I suspect it had been overloaded a few too many times and it had damaged so I went for the Miele hoping it lasts a long time because it’s a pain changing washers in an apartment complex and moving the dryer from the top etc.
I’ve use my Kenmore Elite Front load since 2013. I leave the door and detergent dispenser open at all times when not in use and I clean under the gasket and dry the door. I run the clean cycle with bleach once per month. I have never had any issue with mold at all
Europe here: we only have front loading machines and I never got issues with mold. Of course, the detergent chamber and the door must be left open after using it. Was a bitshocked about the huge amount of water get lost by using top loader. Doesn’t matter the money saving with front loader but for environment. Imagine everyone in US would change to front loader how much water can be saved for other usage
Yeah I'm gonna stay in the US since most ppl here use top loaders..
Top loaders wash better. Thats why they use more water. Ugh europeans
I have a top loader set from 2002. Analog. I’ve had to replace about $100 worth of parts in that time. New machines look cool but my old whirlpool machines work like champs.
I was hoping he would talk about maintenance because I am sure a front loader is harder and more expensive to maintain. I live in the tropical part of the world Jamaica 🇯🇲 so spinning the clothes to dry completely is not a challenge for me. I prefer the top loader.
Years ago we had a front loader and my husband made me get rid of it because of the mold. WE did everything right. There is no way we will be getting another one. I do know people who have not had this problem. I really want a Speed Queen TC but an trying to justify the $$$. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for your comprehensive review of top loaders vs. front loaders. Really helps to make a decision. Now I only have one question. Does ANY manufacturer still make the Cobalt Blue or Cherry Red sets? I would love to have a new washer/dryer set in either of these two colors.
At the end of the day the only test that mattered for me is how well it cleans the clothes, I have a front loader and rarely struggle with mould build up, the drawer gets put through the dishwasher, when there isn't as much to go in 🤷♀️, I want a washing machine that cleans the clothes the best and is cheap to run. I'm in the UK so have a plan with domestic and general, where I pay £5 per month, for unlimited repairs, unlimited parts and replacement if they can't fix the machine.
After using a front loader for 8 years I can't go back to a top loader. I always kept the door ajar and never had a mold problem even in humid Florida. I now take it a step further and give it a quick wipe with a rag at the end so it is not only mold free but stays looking like new.
Thank you for answering the truly important questions.
My old Maytag is making noises I cannot comprehend but I assume that it means the machine seeks rest after 15 years of washing for a family of 5
I have a Bosch front loader washer and dryer combo from around 2004. They have not broken down a single time and are used religiously twice a week.
They made everything better back then.
LG top loaders are amazing. Everyone says front loaders wash better but LG is the exception. I have a front loader and my parent's LG top loader washes better. It has a turbo wash function which spins the entire drum which then shoots 6 jets of water and soap on to the clothes pulling it through the clothes. The way the impeller then rotates and the way it is designed, you can see how the clothes rub against each other and are turned around. The rinse is also more effective with an extra atomising jet spray that rinses during the rinse cycle. It's amazing honestly and you can fit much more in it. My clothes come out cleaner in an LG top loader. But only the LG one.
Do you know which model they have??
@@SarahAvi I am not sure of the model number but it was purchased in 2018.
I also think front loaders are gentler on clothes which results in cost savings on replacement garments.
I agree. I changed from a top loader to a front loader with the same size loads placed in the old dryer there is less lint.
Still using our 1986 top loader basic model Maytag. We had to finally replace the matching dryer a couple of years ago and the metal housing is so much flimsier!
I like the balance feature in front loaders versus top loaders..The spin cycle can be lopsided in top loaders,Anonther plus with front loaders is that you use less water and soap.
Old school is way better!! So many customers complain of rotten smell in front loaders.
That's because most people fail to use them correctly.
this is just confirming that I'm going to stick with my top loader
We have a top loader, and yes you absolutely do have mold issues that must be taken care of! Once a month the detergent and fabric softener draws need to be cleaned, inside where bleach goes and the inside top of drum, all must be cleaned because of mold, so saying you do not have to worry about that with top loaders is completely false!
Miele front loader. End of discussion. Also I have never had an issue with mold in the tub/round the door etc. I wash at 60c for towels and bedding so mold isn’t an issue.
The drying part is what makes front loaders the winner IMO. No need for a dryer.
We have a 33 year old Inglis top loader. It just stopped spinning so I googled it and had it repaired for $12 in about an hour! (motor coupler) Still might buy a front loader though :)
Lint filter is a huge win for top loaders.
What
Top loading dryers don't exist
Thanks for the video. My concern, however, is that my front load washer door bellow keeps ripping. The original bellow lasted 2 years and 7 months; the replacement one only lasted 1 year and 3 months.
Newer electrolux model now has a newly designed door hinge that can ajar. My last pair lasted 14 years. I secretly wanted it to break for so long bc newer models are so attractive
I forgot to mention that I am from the old school days so i was around with the very old agitator machines so i have gone through all the years and yes I have used modern side loaders both expensive and cheaper models.I have found the exact opposite of claims the top loading agitators are usually MUCH better at cleaning and i would know because i work in construction so my clothes are everyday VERY dirty.
I repair appliances for a living.
I also prefer the front load over the top load.
Asko makes a front load washer without the gasket/boot.
I still haven't come across anyone who owns an Asko.
Do Asko front load washers get any mold?
I work in the appliance world and the problem with asko appliances is they break down constantly. That’s why you rarely see people with them. I have a Miele washer and it’s good and an asko heat pump. In its first two years it was replaced once and the replacement has had six repairs. It’s just hit 2 and a half years old and I just hope it will keep running now the warranty is up as it cost $2229.
I love their design and simplicity but it makes it hard to recommend them to anyone. Their washers also have issues with their seal falling off as it’s stuck onto the door instead of around the opening. Another common complaint I hear is they leak water all the time. Even from new.
I would steer clear of asko.
They make very aesthetic looking machines but for whatever reason when I talk to others who own them or customers they all suffered the same fate as me and said they wished they just went with Miele.
I'm looking for a washer. I have a top load washer.
While still works, my frustration is with bulky items like comforters.
The water seems not to cover it completely and when the washing cycle finishes, part of the bulky items seem dry while other parts that are not.
I usually kind of turn the comforter with the dry side down and wash it again.
I used to have a cheap very simple washer and when this happened, I could push I believe the close door button or sensor and it keep filling up with water.
I can't do that with the new machine.
1. Can you recommend a washer with great capacity and that can handle bulky items?
2. Is there an online reference in terms of reliability? Where I can find which brands or models are more reliable according warranty /repair claims?
We have had front loaders all our lives. With the advent of HE, they clean less and less. They seem to excel at not using water.... The only machines that seem to still clean clothes are the commercial models from Maytag and SpeedQueen. And they are top loaders. Water is needed to wash clothes.
What I see is the industry turnabout toward the best: Early '70s top of the lines, sans computer chip, full control by the adults who use them. We can hope to see that day!
With kids, definitely top loader.. can add clothes during the wash cycle. There's always that something you forget to add.
Ok..... What about how when you try to grab an armful of clothes from the front loader to put into the dryer and half of them fall onto the floor-- Every Single Time. Also, I heard that front loaders have to have the tube drained or it'll get moldy??? Sounds like a lot of extra work.....
Buy a Speed Queen
Top load
Sorry not getting a front loader. Also there are models for apartments. We have a GE top loader washer, with a front loader dryer. It's a one piece unit. You can't separate them. But my top loader will wash in 25 minutes, verse my son inlaws 54mim. When you have perhaps 4 loads to do, which am I going to pick?
Good reviews. We have a 5 acre farm property and have a Speed Queen top loader with an agitator and it is WAY better at cleaning dirty farm clothes. At home? An Electrolux front load and it is so good that I hardly have to pre-treat.
This was exactly what I needed to know! And pleasant to watch. Thank you so much for posting for everyone to benefit!
in the former gdr we got the best of both world, the FORON toplader vm 560 was a, well the name sugest it, toploader but with a drumm that worked like a frontloader ...and in the commu görman there was one more "dont lough...wörk wörk wörk!"
Can you help me? We are getting ready to buy a new washer and dryer. We’re thinking about a front load washer since we are senior citizens. The mold collecting on the gasket is a concern to me. This past year, we had the crawl space under the house encapsulated, as well as mold remediation done in and under the house. We are located at the foot of a hill, so we have moisture runoff. Having done these home repairs, would a front load machine be a mold problem for us?
Front load mold issues are customer abuse cases, every time. The industry failed to educate the customer on how to use the front loader correctly. Once you understand how to use one correctly, you will not have a mold issue.
The industry benefits from consumer ignorance. The American solution will always be to just buy a new one.
Sure. Clean the thing that cleans everytime or it will mold up. Nice!
@@Ryan-re1rs No cleaning. Just wipe out of the moisture around the door and seal that exists right after using it. Then unplug the machine and leave the door slightly opened to evaporate the remaining moisture.
I live in Florida and I haven’t seen 1 front loader that didn’t have mold in it. Top loaders for win for me.
I'm in Germany and I have never seen mold in front loaders. And I only see front loaders here. What the fuck are you guys doing over there that your front loaders start to mold?
I am sorry but grease will not be removed in a top load machine. It can’t. It’s like rinsing a greasy cloth in sink full of soapy water, rather than a saturated cloth with the detergent on it and squeezing it with your hands, the detergent will be more concentrated, forcing the detergent through the fibres, cutting through the grease.
In a top load washer, you would have to pre treat any type of stains or with the grease, use an absurd amount of detergent to get the grease out, which is practical.
Concentrated cleaning is much better, with the combined force of gravity and clothes rubbing against each other, in a front loader.
Appreciate your videos! I chose front loader for the aesthetic.
So true - my top load LG makes my laundry room look like the '70s...
How do front loaders win at cleaning better when top loaders are better at cleaning grease/stains? Logically wouldn’t top loaders be the winner here?
Yes. That’s what I think, and I have read so many reviews where people say their front loader does not clean as well as a top loader.
Exactly. What is the point of a washing machine that cannot clean actual dirty clothes, lol ! A puddle of water is not going to clean as well as being submerged in water.
LOL first time I ever heard someone say a front loader cleans better than a top loader. Not to mention top loaders are much more reliable and durable. Only thing I like about front loader is noise but thats it. I guess this is like Twitter/Social Media vs the real world.
Every professional testing organisation says in all their results front loaders remove stains and clean better then any top loader offered on the market. Good house keeping, choice reviews. All of them. It’s not a myth it’s true. They clean clothes much better.
I have owned both and I couldn’t agree more they make clothes look so much cleaner and remove stains i couldn’t get out in the top loader after many many washes. Even old set in stains I had for years after their first wash when I made the switch I was shocked to see gone.
However I don’t buy that they are gentle on clothes. I throw away so many pairs of underwear with holes and I don’t ever recall doing that with such frequency when I had a top load washer.
@@lukiejames I know all the testing organizations say that, but coming from someone who recently bought a washer and read hundreds of reviews from actual customers who had front loaders, I can tell you that they constantly said how front loaders did not clean their clothes as well as the top loader they had previously, and that they broke down all the time because of all the fancy electronics. I tend to believe actual users more than professional organizations who may have a conflict of interest or other bias.
@@MaryBethMcCoy and those consumers who used copious amounts of fabric softeners, didn’t do maintenance and used the incorrect cycles should be our gold standard for how we form our purchase making decisions. That makes a lot of sense Mary doesn’t it? Absolutely not. Over 90 percent of consumers never read the manual.
@@lukiejames I agree with that last statement, for sure. Fortunately, I am one of the few who does read the manual cover to cover. I am sure there are consumers who don’t use their washers correctly, but I am just saying that there are so many who prefer the old school basic top loader washers with agitators that are simple to use and get clothes clean. Especially with the advent of HE, which barely uses enough water to cover the clothes, making getting them clean more difficult. Fortunately, the GE top load model I got allows you to add water and has some settings I can use so I can get a full tub.
@@MaryBethMcCoy so I’m not in the us which I picked up on because you said GE. However, for whatever reason maybe your government regulations I agree. The HE top loaders you guys have are really very useless. I have seen so many videos of them not using water. It’s really bad. Some peoples clothes come out half dry! I don’t know who tests them but surely they know they are not doing the job properly when they release them for sale.
I did some research a while ago and apparently in the us, even though it’s “cheap” the amana?? With agitator works just like the old fashioned washers and gives good results.
I often wonder why though so many families in the us are only getting 3-4 years out of their machines. On average they last most people here 9-10 years.
In other countries like mine, the HE washers without the agitator, clean just as well as an agitator washer because they actually fill up with water and cover the clothes completely. Before front loaders I had a Samsung top load HE and it covered the clothes in water and then pulled them through the water with such force. It also had an aqua plus setting to add more water if needed but most of the time it always got the water level right. It did a pretty good job but the spin speed was very slow 740rpm versus my 1600rpm front load. So clothes took a while in the dryer.
When I had a washer with an agitator it always stretched my clothes terribly and made my shirts look stretched but as many was what I grew up with.
I think the issue with many front loaders in the USA is that the cycles have been shortened for the market. Here a standard load takes 2 and a half hours. Things come out very clean and very well spun. Because we have 240volt power as well, our washers will get up to almost boiling if we want them to. However with 110v connections the washers can’t draw enough power to heat the water enough for the front loaders and regulations don’t allow the home water supply to be hot enough/by the time the water gets to the washer it’s already filled up with the cold water from the pipes.
Top loaders are best.
Gary
I could go look at my time tested Whirlpool W&D and give the model numbers but I'm sure 20 years later they don't make the same set. Never a breakdown, never a part replacement..........Also not everyone buys water, water cost nothing but electric to pump it, and saving water when you're surrounded by water is not an issue. My water goes back into the ground when I'm done with it.............Admittedly the front loaders do look better but since my W&D is not in my living room I really don't care.
Down side of front load you cannot add some clothes that you forget and if kids play going inside
Do your ge washer on a pedestal shake bad on the spin cycle because my ge washer shakes really bad on a pedestal. The place I got it from installed it and level it but still shakes really bad on the pedestal. I think if I take it off the pedestal it would not shake anymore what do you think.
I have the top loader LG that was recommended by Consumer Reports. It does not clean well at all. I would love to go back to my 20 year old Maytag with an agitator. I don't understand why it washes with so little water and no agitator. What am I doing wrong?
Haha. They referenced a comment on their previous video where a guy commented he was watching a video on washing machines instead of studying for his finals tomorrow. :D
If you don't care about stacking - it's a tie.
My mother has a top-loader, and it smells musty. We have to run it with tabs on the sanitize cycle every few months. Meanwhile, my 30 year old Miele front loader has never had any mold in it.
I can’t wait for my top loading washer to arrive. Moldy, stinky and leaky. I often had to spin out my wash. It was not overpacked
Are there any front loader washer and dryer combo units that do need venting because they use hot air to dry? The ventless condensation drying tends to leave clothes still damp
"Leave the door open" is a chore? ... lol?
Here is the thing: So far, I'd never had to clean the rubber gasket thoroughly. My machine is 10 years old. There is no mold, and there isn't even any residue that I could clean.
And how did I do that? I use powder detergent and no softener and leave the door open after wash. Occasionally, I do use wash programs with a temperature above 60C.
It's that easy.
Front loaders also hold a larger capacity of clothes with the average unit being 4.1 cubic feet. Top loaders are at 3.5 cubic feet.
When he said you cant stack a top with a dryer is wrong depends on ur ceiling height. I have a top with a dryer above attached to wall with brackets worked well for 20 years so its 5 / 5 now. Every person ive talked to say front loader but as im 6 4 height and 55yo do i want to be bending to max when im in my 70s ???? Also the foot print is smaller with top loader and prices in Australia are roughly same but front generally bit cheaper not a deal breaker. Its very close for me could go either way ive narrowed down to 1 x top and 1 x front not much in it will see what store rep says.
I moved into an apartment that has a Westinghouse smart washing machine front loader.
my thing is there's no instruction really how to use it you just go with your gut and learn it that way, that is why I am on UA-cam trying to learn how to use it.
I don’t see a link to that washer machine you mentioned.
Can only get front load in the UK
How do you reinstall top door on whirlpool apartment size washer
Can you wash a 6x9 feet rug in a high efficiency top loader that is 5.2 cu ft or bigger?
Hello ! Hope you are doing well ! In your opinion wish of the top load washers in the market works better and last longer ? Thanks in advance .
The only answer is Miele.
Speed Queen is your best option not front loaders
Mold. Our frontloading washer doesn't sit still long enough to grow any mold. It seems to clean better than our top-loader (the back-up for when (not if) bearings go bad on the front-loader) . The front-loader drum works basically like banging the laundry on rocks at the river, like has been done for centuries, with the drums being much smoother than rocks.
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Correct! UA-cam has all kinds of videos showing you how to override the amount of water your front loader wants to use. That's because people are used to seeing their clothes soaking in a top loader and they want the drum of their front loader full of water too. That's not how front loaders work! They repeatedly dip the clothes into a relatively shallow pool of soapy water, then lift it up and drop it down. If the drum is full of water, there's virtually no "smack" effect when it hits the bottom of the drum like you'd get from whacking clothes on a rock, hence cleaning is actually reduced.
There is no discussion about spacing required behind or on sides for Front loaders or top loaders. My concern also includes space limitations. I have older top load washer and dryer and although they are not apartment size the measurements on width are 3" less then the average width of the top loader or front loaders. Making my for less options to fit in a set of top load washer with dryer. Can you address space required to make choices please.
My GE HE top-loader is extremely damaging on all fabrics, so I can only use the "delicates" cycle. Even then I only add items after 1/2 of that cycle is over. I'll NEVER buy any washer with a washer plate again. In order to reduce even "delicate" cycle damage I must use extra water. There goes the "HE" aspect.
I would like to see a test of dry times on front vs top loaders. From what I've read you may save .7kwh per load or 7 cents at 10cents/kwh
Here in europe i have never seen a top load that spins like the one you are showing. The once we have here spin from same angle as front loaders
Yeah it’s the one i have. Love it. So small.
This was a great comparison video - thank you for making this!
There are also front loader combinations.
As always informative and well presented 👍....thanks for the comparisons...
In Europe we don't have anything that would resemble your top loaders. Our top loaders are just like front loaders but with a hatch in the drum. Last time I saw something like your top loaders was in the 80s and it was already ancient and hadn't been in use for decades at that time.
So interesting, every front I've ever used has been terrible on washing performance and ringing out water, and why do American top loaders look 30 yrs old? .... In saying that, I do use a Fisher & Paykel top loader which is amazing so perhaps it's just the brand and design
Can is start a small businness with 2,MTW100-16kg alaundary machine pls?
Putting mold first, the one people don't think about, is smart.