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  • Get ready to roll up your sleeves and dive into the world of machining with Practical Machinist as we explore NTMA Machinist Career College! Follow along on this behind-the-scenes tour as we uncover how this unique institution is revolutionizing education in the manufacturing industry.
    At NTMA, it's not just about textbooks and lectures-it's about hands-on learning and real-world skills. Step into a community where instructors, administrators, and employers come together to provide an inclusive pathway to career success, minus the typical educational barriers.
    From preparing newcomers for entry-level positions to honing the craft of seasoned pros, NTMA Machinist Career College is all about empowering individuals with the tools they need to thrive. With a focus on professionalism and practical know-how, every student walks away ready to tackle the challenges of the machining world.
    Since 1968, NTMA has been shaping the futures of thousands, offering cutting-edge training facilities, expert instructors, and a hands-on approach that's second to none. Whether you're a newbie eager to learn or a seasoned vet looking to sharpen your skills, there's a place for you at NTMA.
    Join us as we peel back the curtain on NTMA Machinist Career College and discover how they're molding the next generation of machinists. It's an adventure you won't want to miss!
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  • @d6c10k4
    @d6c10k4 2 місяці тому +15

    That's great that schools are still around to teach machinists. Many schools have closed over the years since I went through a two year tool & die program at a community college in the late 1970's. For many years the attitude from economists, politicians, and business leaders was that we needed to convert to a service economy and get rid of all the "dirty" manufacturing. I finally see that attitude swinging back the other way as people are realizing we need to be able to produce products in this county in order to protect our economy.

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 2 місяці тому +2

      Couldn’t agree more!

    • @agg42
      @agg42 2 місяці тому

      This isn't a good program though. Read through the google reviews and you'll see what a crap-show this actually is. I've gone through a 4-year apprenticeship program with this exact place. And I've also got a community college degree. NTMA is basically an adult day-care with expensive toys. Their teachers are hardly knowledgeable hence why they CAN'T teach trig, again this is PERSONAL experience.
      Avoid NTMA like the recent plague. Community College is better in EVERY way. Cheaper, actually qualified teachers that must know what they're teaching, better networking, and an actual benefit to a resume.
      Extremely disappointed this school is being promoted here. You know the money's going around.

    • @d6c10k4
      @d6c10k4 2 місяці тому +1

      @@agg42 Interesting.... I wondered how they were doing all that training in such a short program.

    • @agg42
      @agg42 2 місяці тому +1

      @@d6c10k4 Isn't it interesting how the original comment isn't there anymore? HMMMMMMM

    • @d6c10k4
      @d6c10k4 2 місяці тому +2

      @@agg42 Yes... apparently we don't like criticism.

  • @justintupicruz6324
    @justintupicruz6324 23 години тому

    Just started going school here liking it so far.

  • @sparksandchips
    @sparksandchips 2 місяці тому +2

    Great school! He said a mouthful about trig and shop math, I struggle in high school with algebra.
    Teacher did not know how and where to show the practical application, after graduating I went to machine shop school and that is where the connection was finally made to put me on the path.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @danielrogers6090
    @danielrogers6090 2 місяці тому +5

    I graduated from ntma as a tool and die maker. Now I own a tool and die company thanks ntma😅

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 2 місяці тому +2

      There ya go! Congratulations - I’m very glad to hear it!

    • @esadaddy
      @esadaddy 2 місяці тому +2

      Same as I.... NTMA tool and die maker...

    • @agg42
      @agg42 2 місяці тому +1

      @@esadaddy How long ago? Because this program is more of a nuisance than a step forward for the industry. And for reference, I have personal experience with this exact location.

  • @mattlarson9897
    @mattlarson9897 Місяць тому

    This is exactly how i got started 20 years ago. I went to a tech school in Wisconsin that was set up almost exactly the same as this.

  • @richhuntsd12
    @richhuntsd12 2 місяці тому +1

    That was a great video Ian. I had to chuckle when You said” They grind their own tools” That’s all we did when I started in 1974. Of course most of the tools were HSS but you might be amazed at the tools we ground by hand. Man, that is a great school. Awesome job Kurt!!!!!!

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 2 місяці тому

      Thank you very much for the kind words! Most definitely - hand-grinding tools beyond simple lathe tools and re-sharpening drills is quite beyond me!

  • @DCT_Aaron_Engineering
    @DCT_Aaron_Engineering 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for documenting this. It was an excellent video and very well presented. Kudos to Kurt also. Good machining teachers are very hard to find. Please pass on my regards to him. Anytime you feel like coming “Downunder” to Melbourne you’re welcome anytime at our training institute. Cheers Aaron

  • @CNCMachinistEducationNetwork
    @CNCMachinistEducationNetwork 2 місяці тому +1

    as an instructor the last 10 years - I like to see other schools. Nice setup and combo of traditional (manual) and CNC machining.

  • @carlwhite8225
    @carlwhite8225 2 місяці тому +2

    Ian, I have to say thank you for all that you do to promote this trade. it was cool to hear you mention the VF2 as i just got one in November in my home garage shop, after a bunch of programming help from a buddy i am making my own parts, I wish the opportunity had been there in the 1980s to learn this trade. Thanks again.

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you very much, it is very much appreciated! The VF2 is a great machine - I’ve had one for 10 years and it’s one of the most solid we run!

  • @VictorHernandez-nt3tw
    @VictorHernandez-nt3tw 2 місяці тому +1

    I love that Hexagon Machine Trainer. I want to look into one.

  • @reddnmilla
    @reddnmilla 2 місяці тому +1

    oh my gosh, I absolutely love this! Ian outstanding video sir! Kurt seems like a very good and knowledgeable instructor. We need colleges like this all around the country, I agree! I was able to attend a very good community college and they had most of what NTMA offers, but a dedicated school with so many machine tools is something I've never seen. I would love to take some CNC courses as well as Master Cam training here one day!

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 2 місяці тому

      Thank you very much for checking it out!

  • @caploader111
    @caploader111 2 місяці тому +1

    I went to the Ontario NTMA back in 2012. Then I went to Norwalk for Mastercam a few years ago. The best decision I ever made was to become a machinist. It's too difficult for some people. They usually quit and become engineers.

    • @ismevictor7289
      @ismevictor7289 Місяць тому

      That’s wild, I go to the Santa Fe location rn and it’s awesome, but it’s 50 mins away🤦‍♂️. lol Ontario and Norwalk are closer but they both closed down?!

  • @josea.recendiz3679
    @josea.recendiz3679 2 місяці тому +2

    Can the CNC class be applied to CNC grinding or is just CNC for lathes and mills?

    • @stevieg2755
      @stevieg2755 2 місяці тому +2

      CNC grinding is pretty specialized

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 2 місяці тому +2

      That’s a good question - I’d say g-code is g-code so any CNC experience is good, but I have a feeling that’s indeed a specialized trade people need to specify in after this program. I personally don’t know a thing about CNC grinding almost 20 years in!

    • @caploader111
      @caploader111 2 місяці тому +1

      I don't think they have CNC grinding there. Just mill lathe and wire edm

  • @brucelamay8977
    @brucelamay8977 2 місяці тому +1

    Do they have any closer to the East Coast?

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 2 місяці тому +1

      That’s a great question - I certainly hope someone can answer it here for you!

  • @jimmyjack7141
    @jimmyjack7141 Місяць тому

    I went to a NTMA in Grand Rapids Michigan in 1991, ir was 40 hours a week 4 10 hour days, for 6 months then 4-5 years work experience to become a mold/Die maker, it's too bad much of the mold industry has gone over seas, and pay scales have fallen flat. Ita a great trade, it's just all the hard work and 50-70 hour weeks wasn't worth it.

  • @madskofoed1094
    @madskofoed1094 2 місяці тому +1

    In europe they would be free, and a combination of firms and union, plus of course a wage. But it took me 4 years, and that why we are skilled machinists.

  • @8MADJACK
    @8MADJACK 2 місяці тому

    I was able to get the basics of this type of training in high school but they pretty much all ditched their shop programs same with the community colleges. I'm reading a lot of comments talking about how expensive it is, personally the route I went was to buy my own machines and learn as I go on them specially nowadays with all the online resources I'd rather have $20,000 in equipment based on some of the comments

  • @phalanyx3478
    @phalanyx3478 2 місяці тому +4

    Get an apprenticeship and then get your machining education for free through the company or a state program. It is foolish to go buy an education before you got your foot in the door making money in the trade. Shops are going out of business all over the place because the economy sucks and the pay in this career sucks, dont be a sucker paying money for education in a career that pays so bad people dont want to go into it. If you are intelligent and talented though you can get a lot of really nice tools for criminally cheap from ebay and auctions and work your way up in a job shop. You need to wear a lot of hats in this trade or else you are not gonna make it. If you combine machining skill with welding you can make a lot of money doing repair and fabrication.

  • @Fred-xo3ku
    @Fred-xo3ku 18 годин тому

    Don't go there not knowing nothing or you're going to be in serious trouble. 💵😮

  • @PaulG.369
    @PaulG.369 2 місяці тому

    Maybe they can teach manual machining within 8 months. But I highly doubt they can also make an effective cnc programmer out of anyone within that time frame.

    • @agg42
      @agg42 2 місяці тому

      They can get you in debt really quickly though and they can put you in a minimum wage operator job because that's what anyone that 'graduates' from here will qualify for.
      Speaking from personal experience, their teachers are incompetent. They aren't teaching trig because their teachers are incapable of teaching it.
      2 year community college is the way to go. Significantly more cheaper, qualified teachers, and better opportunities.

  • @stevieg2755
    @stevieg2755 2 місяці тому +2

    8 months is too short to become proficient,especially only 5 hours a day

    • @iansandusky417
      @iansandusky417 2 місяці тому +3

      No one can be an expert out of school - but if you don’t think this is better than 90% of the grads getting thrown at the trade, you’re out of touch

    • @agg42
      @agg42 2 місяці тому +1

      8 months and 20k in debt. Great way to start a $20/hr job in SoCal. /sarcasm. I can't believe this *day care* is being promoted.

    • @caploader111
      @caploader111 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@agg42it was 12k when I went and almost everyone got a grant that paid for half of it. Except for the guys straight out of prison. For them it was all paid for.

    • @peterfitzpatrick7032
      @peterfitzpatrick7032 Місяць тому +1

      @@caploader111 Who says crime doesn't pay !!... 🙄😂

    • @ismevictor7289
      @ismevictor7289 Місяць тому

      @@agg42 sounds like you paid them money and in return expected them to hand you everything. upwards of 20K for a life time future? Sometimes you have to be motivated and hungry, not expecting then salty. NTMA is Santa Fe is beyond awesome.

  • @chronokoks
    @chronokoks 2 місяці тому +2

    The only way there are going to be new machinists is for the work conditions to get better. And they are not getting better because the shop owners do the same thing as they did 50 years ago. It's not a school or a skill problem - you can't force the dumber part of the population to be great at reading drawings, great at tweaking settings on the cnc to match tolerances. The only way is to grab the attention of the more intelligent part of the population because they rather go to desk jobs, then to slave away in a room with no windows, little to no proper AC, doing 3 shifts, no job perks no nothing. Nah this simply does not fly anywhere. In Asia they do these jobs because they have very little other options - in western worlds, you can do whatever shitty job in an office sitting comfortably just clicking away at the mails in outlook. and doing calls. And starting people on conventional? That's downright stupid, I never needed conventional.

  • @mikeswindell137
    @mikeswindell137 2 місяці тому

    Great idea, NOW TAKE OFF YOUR HAT AND WEAR IT CORRECTLY. HOW MANY NEW TRAINEES WEAR THEIR HAT BACKWARDS!! GROW UP IAN !!

  • @mrechbreger
    @mrechbreger 2 місяці тому +1

    I do not agree with conventional milling, Software is about to take over this job. Doing CNC from day one on is the way to go.
    Conventional milling is a good skill but should be learned in private.
    I started with cnc I broke a bunch of endmills but spending like 200$ for cheap endmills and breaking them is enough for me.
    No need to feel anything, you will hear and see everything on the workpiece.

    • @chronokoks
      @chronokoks 2 місяці тому

      Old dogs don't know how to do things in a different way than they have been taught. This is the problem. Losing time at the conventional machine is just downright and plainly dumb.