I suspect difference in geography, to me this is a stick frame house. I prefer the NA version of timber frame, which is also superior for energy efficiency.
In North America, a "timber frame" build is defined as one using "timbers" larger than 5 inches (127mm) in width or depth. Anything less is considered "stick frame" building, which uses standard-size 2x ("two by") sticks to make standard-size wall systems. A timber frame doesn't use wall systems constructed with nails; rather it uses large timbers and timber joinery to create "bents," which are often held together with only pegs and the joinery itself. I wouldn't consider the home above a timber frame home, by any stretch.
Hi Shimoda Life. We get tonnes of American viewers telling us the same. However, here in the UK, this is very much a timber frame home... one of many differences in our construction industries.
@@HomebuildingMagazine Thanks for the reply. I just wonder what are the defining characteristics of a "Timber frame build" in your mind? What separates a timber-frame build from a stick-frame build? Anyhoo, keep up the good content.
@@ShimodaLife the stick frame (NA terminology) could be better as the timber will be more distributed. Sticks can and are doubled up e.g. around openings.
I've always been very sceptical about timber framed builds. In my opinion timber will burn no matter what sort of fire retardant they are treated with. I'm doing a self build and went with traditional brick and block.
Rodian Builds don’t worry about the timber... like ever. Anything thicker than two inches ain’t burning without something to accelerate it. That’s why you should have plastered walls and NEVER use foam even the filmed stuff. Glass wool isn’t good either it melts easy. Don’t use Furniture that can burn and install sprinklers. The thicker your timbers the more resistant to burning.
Then why are you watching and commenting on a video about Timber Frame homes? At some point, like your floors, roof, stairs, doors, etc, you will need wood.
@@Dollapfin "That’s why you should have plastered walls" ??? Plaster walls are made with wood lath. Plaster won't stop that from burning. "NEVER use foam even the filmed stuff. Glass wool isn’t good either it melts easy." Well, you just cut out 80% of materials used for insulation. "Don’t use Furniture that can burn". OH, right lets all sit and sleep on concrete and steel. I don't think you have a clue as to what you're talking about.
@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 It's a misconception that timber is more susceptible to fire than other materials. If you have a reinforced concrete slab, after x amount of time the concrete cracks due to the heat, exposing the rebars to the fire which loose their stability, leading to the collapse of the slab. Steel has similar behaviour. Timber on the other hand burns slowly, and being a homogeneous section it may lose a part from its height but the cross section can still resist pretty well. (there are many videos on youtube demonstrating this, such as ua-cam.com/video/G-J86Ka9MkQ/v-deo.html). And at the end of the day, houses are designed to resist burning for a certain amount of time, depending on their importance. It should not collapse before you can save yourself, and every material is treated taking into account their weaknesses.
Hi Darren, I think these days if you're looking for a specialist self build mortgage, timber frame is such a common build system that getting a mortgage should be as easy as getting one for a brick/mortar build, a SIPS build or any other commonly used system. To find a good self build mortgage lender, visit one of the Homebuilding & Renovating exhibitions (currently running as virtual online events). Cheers!
While a very effective method , for domestic extensions , or retrofit , it’s very hard to find a supplier, or make a project economically viable for a client , that’s my experience , so the market is for larger self built or few sustainability aware developers
You’re right just completed timber frame extension on the cottage I’ve done all the work myself as I’m a carpenter but very time-consuming especially the insulation much more expensive than block work but now it’s completed and I’m pleased because of the installation value
Does anyone know if asbestos was used in timber frame builds from mid 80's onwards? I am asking aside from artex on ceilings, is their possibility of asbestos in the insulation, sprayed on the frame itself, or found in the plaster board?
Thanks a great explanation, it is especially good to see the cross sections. Good stuff!
I suspect difference in geography, to me this is a stick frame house. I prefer the NA version of timber frame, which is also superior for energy efficiency.
In North America, a "timber frame" build is defined as one using "timbers" larger than 5 inches (127mm) in width or depth. Anything less is considered "stick frame" building, which uses standard-size 2x ("two by") sticks to make standard-size wall systems. A timber frame doesn't use wall systems constructed with nails; rather it uses large timbers and timber joinery to create "bents," which are often held together with only pegs and the joinery itself. I wouldn't consider the home above a timber frame home, by any stretch.
Hi Shimoda Life. We get tonnes of American viewers telling us the same. However, here in the UK, this is very much a timber frame home... one of many differences in our construction industries.
@@HomebuildingMagazine Thanks for the reply. I just wonder what are the defining characteristics of a "Timber frame build" in your mind? What separates a timber-frame build from a stick-frame build? Anyhoo, keep up the good content.
@@ShimodaLife the stick frame (NA terminology) could be better as the timber will be more distributed. Sticks can and are doubled up e.g. around openings.
@@ShimodaLife in England, most homes are built of bricks only . So timber frame here just means it is built using some timber instead of bricks
@@ShimodaLife if the superstructure loads are transferred to the substructure through timber.
Informational. A lot of things turn around in this video.
Good video.
At 4:05, am I seeing the entire weight of the roof being transferred down to a window header?
yes but its big beam
I see what you're saying! Good catch. Two main beams being supported over window framing. Doesn't seem like the best engineering design.
super video, thanks!
Love timber
I've always been very sceptical about timber framed builds. In my opinion timber will burn no matter what sort of fire retardant they are treated with. I'm doing a self build and went with traditional brick and block.
Are you planning on barbecuing in your living room? 😂
Rodian Builds don’t worry about the timber... like ever. Anything thicker than two inches ain’t burning without something to accelerate it. That’s why you should have plastered walls and NEVER use foam even the filmed stuff. Glass wool isn’t good either it melts easy. Don’t use Furniture that can burn and install sprinklers. The thicker your timbers the more resistant to burning.
Then why are you watching and commenting on a video about Timber Frame homes?
At some point, like your floors, roof, stairs, doors, etc, you will need wood.
@@Dollapfin
"That’s why you should have plastered walls" ??? Plaster walls are made with wood lath. Plaster won't stop that from burning.
"NEVER use foam even the filmed stuff. Glass wool isn’t good either it melts easy." Well, you just cut out 80% of materials used for insulation.
"Don’t use Furniture that can burn". OH, right lets all sit and sleep on concrete and steel.
I don't think you have a clue as to what you're talking about.
@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 It's a misconception that timber is more susceptible to fire than other materials. If you have a reinforced concrete slab, after x amount of time the concrete cracks due to the heat, exposing the rebars to the fire which loose their stability, leading to the collapse of the slab. Steel has similar behaviour. Timber on the other hand burns slowly, and being a homogeneous section it may lose a part from its height but the cross section can still resist pretty well. (there are many videos on youtube demonstrating this, such as ua-cam.com/video/G-J86Ka9MkQ/v-deo.html).
And at the end of the day, houses are designed to resist burning for a certain amount of time, depending on their importance. It should not collapse before you can save yourself, and every material is treated taking into account their weaknesses.
How long will a house like this last?
9 million years
Hi. Can I make loft conversion in my timber frame semi detached house. If yes what do I need to do.
Please let me know .
Isn't it harder to find a mortgage for a timber frame build?
Hi Darren, I think these days if you're looking for a specialist self build mortgage, timber frame is such a common build system that getting a mortgage should be as easy as getting one for a brick/mortar build, a SIPS build or any other commonly used system. To find a good self build mortgage lender, visit one of the Homebuilding & Renovating exhibitions (currently running as virtual online events). Cheers!
While a very effective method , for domestic extensions , or retrofit , it’s very hard to find a supplier, or make a project economically viable for a client , that’s my experience , so the market is for larger self built or few sustainability aware developers
You’re right just completed timber frame extension on the cottage I’ve done all the work myself as I’m a carpenter but very time-consuming especially the insulation much more expensive than block work but now it’s completed and I’m pleased because of the installation value
But you still have a thermal bridge with the stud inside the sip
My first thought. Thermal absurd.
Do they have sip panels in Canada?
who are some companies in the US that do this?
There’s a lot of “turn around” in this video
Does anyone know if asbestos was used in timber frame builds from mid 80's onwards? I am asking aside from artex on ceilings, is their possibility of asbestos in the insulation, sprayed on the frame itself, or found in the plaster board?
"Naturalfibre" damn this looks way too artifical besides the wood ...
Now I know what CLS C16 stands for 👍
It's timber strength. C16 is on the lower end strength wise but is one of the most commonly used grades of timber due to cost.
Me too .
Many of things that the guy said here are just wishful thinking.