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Antiques WOKEshow: Dealer REFUSES to value item believed to be connected to slave trade
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Reparation for our sailors killed trying to end the slave trade where african cheifs sold their people. For shame !,
Spot on geni, you certainly know your history!
@@michael1714Geni does for sure! And the irony of there being 7 million slaves in present day Africa: men women and children! Sometimes I have to pinch myself to see if I am awake or dreaming when I hear this victimhood nonsense.
An African chief NEVER sold a slave to a white man. He sold an indentured servant who always obtained his freedom after 7 years.
Virtue signalling - I don't believe for one second that this bloke cares that much for something that happened centuries ago. It was just an opportunity to push "the message"!
Make sure we all know he's black.
It's always the posh ones.
Blacks bring up that vile trade now and ask for money FORGETTING IT WAS BLACK TRADERS SELLING THEM TO THE WHITE MAN....GOOD ON RONNIE...would people be upset if someone brought a
skull from a German concentration camp !!!!! the two events brought about millions dying.
Exactly, its the bbc and thats exactly what hes doing
Nail on the he head👍 Unfortunately Ronnie has form, earlier this year he told a lady who had brought something for valuation that she should give it back to Africa and he would be more than willing to help, just another bandwagon jumper and box ticker!
he's everything the BBC want black and woke and will say anything for the pieces of gold
bye bye BBC antiqueWOKE show...get lost
Quite so. Yet another BBC bag of woke bollox to stuff in the rejection box. The 'show' used to be rather good, but now it has been intolerably tainted, and despite my not having a propaganda license, the woke show will no longer be tolerated in this particular household.
Its pathetic why even film it if he was refusing to value it. Typical bbc claptrap wokery ..
exactly
Very good point.
Virtue signalling!
These fergals and chips never happy unless they are moaning
What about the slavery that is happening now?🤦♀️😠🤨🤔
But thats in Africa and Asia thats allowed seemingly...
But whitey does it 300 years ago...RACISTS....
Where's the statues....😂😂😂
Blk?
Cheap labour.
Wage slavery.
PROFITS!
That's all slavery was EVER about.
Yes, he wont go and demonstrate outside the local sweat shop.
@@jamescharnock4579 typical Woke Laftie.
Oh, what a coincidence that the appraiser was a blk person! Not set up at all.
He is pulling the slave card. Pull the other one.
Until about 200 years ago, life for 95% of the population of Britain was nasty, brutish, and short.
Slave card are you taking the piss
The item was originally owned by a Nigerian slave trader selling his own people, yet somehow black sellers of slaves are not to blame today for the slave trade only the white buyers.
Amazing isn't it..the way Nigeria STILL treats its people NOW..he doest say anything about that...he's done valuations on things like that before look back at the other shows he's done..he's jumping on the bandwagon..God I've had enough of this bullshit..
He is probably another Woke Leftie?
What did you expect from the BBC ? , absolute total woke bulls**t . I'd have told the so called expert that all I wanted was a valuation and not a lecture and ruined the film
I’m so angry, I want our country back, vote reform, UK😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I want chips and mushy peas with my country. 😂😂😂
Better then Labour who wants all
Our child learning sex act by 4-5, to benefits LGBTQ-Muslims
Lol
Why, to get another version of the Tories. Reform are cucks to Hope not Hate. They are no better or worse than anyone else.
Reform are a disgrace to those who fought and died to rid our country of such hate and intolerance
YET another reason for not watching the BBC.
The BBwhat?
Of course this gentlemens ancestors never committed anything bad....
Your job is to value things...
Do it..
😂
I don’t think anybody’s job is to be forced to do something they don’t want to do, that would equate to…slavery?
Ronnie, as he's known in the antiques trade is not really a dealer, nor an auctioneer. As an antique dealer myself, I and others have known him for thirty years as simply a 'runner'. That means that he never actually sold from a shop, an exhibition space like a fair or from an arcade, because he couldn't afford the rent, but hawked his goods around from dealer to dealer where they were, hoping they might buy something from him. That makes him bottom of the antiques pile. Always had more to say for himself than any talent he might have would justify, he must have at some point cosied up to the BBC, who saw an opportunity for box ticking, and elevated him to the illustrious Roadshow. I imagine this situation is a careful and artful contrivance to make him seem like the hero of the hour, yet at any other time in his career, I'd imagine he'd have been grateful for anything that at least he had a collector for, as items like this do have a market..........
He's a stamp collector. Box tick hire doing what he was hired to do.
@@BonusHole
But he's not hired as a stamp expert on the Antiques Roadshow, is he? So I don't care whether he bends over backwards in his spare time, and picks up a stamp on the end of his nose.
He's spent his pre AR employment running antiques to dealers, not dissimilar to those he likes to bore people with on the AR. That's the relevant point, not your irrelevant attempt at a diversion ...........
Jay Blades, absolute chancer with no talent whatsoever cant stand him. Did you see some of the total rubbish he cobbled together on 'money for nothing' it was laughable
@@vivienwade4378 .........he always wears clown clothes to make him 'seem' interesting. Doesn't fool me.
Thank you so much for telling us the background to this virtual signalling twit.
Upset because his Aunt was returned to Africa from Canada? 😂 there is no pleasing some people!
Hahaha. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Love it. ❤
He's there to value what people bring, not lecture them.
Hes too big for his boots what a pot toss 🤮🤪
I bet he would have valued something Roman or viking.
They were into the slave trade.
All done for the cameras.
Also the Irish were at it raiding the west coast of Britain and enslaving none other than Saint Patrick but we won't let history get in the way of Irish mythstory 🤔
Probably valued ex Nazi / SS / Japanese etc War memorabilia without any Objections!, ah well he's had his minute of fame now!
We all have a connection with slavery if we go back in time… what do you think the vikings did?!!
taking slaves was the corner stone of african cultures, so much so that they had to be threatened so slavery could be officially ended.
Every country and society on the planet has had blood on its hands at some point in history.
We're all slaves to money
@@englishciderlover7347 one thing for sure…if 500 illegals keep coming a day…our ancestors will be slaves or refugees.
Look at us Welsh with the Romans.Will i be able to put a claim in
GET OVER IT.
What a munt. Tell him relax he's in the country that banned it.
Just do your job stop trying to be MLK Jnr all over again.
Sheeeeit!
Munt haven't heard that expression in years, you must be a Rhodie ?
MLK wasn't into this woke BS. Blame WHITE liberals way before you mention his name.
Rhodesians never die 😎
@PaxanglorumI take it that you refer to your own family.
The doers will be the ones the band it lol😂
Next a gun used in a war? That killed a man, or men, which is also abhorrent. Then we have war medals awarded for killing men. Whilst I agree that it’s a pretty horrible artefact I found it quite disturbing that an expert refused to value something they didn’t like. As for the lady that brought it who knows how far, well, I suppose she will have had an interesting journey home. All seems to tie in with the way the show has evolved over the last year or two. However, we all have the right to choose I suppose.
Was anyone rich back in the day not up to some kind of dirt?
These antiques go back to when the world was rough.
Anyone care to guess the race of the *Nigerian Slave Trader?*
the way history is being twisted he's probably one of henry the eighth's bastards.
Bantu ?
😂😂@@johndunn6968
Wakanda
There is a statue of Efunroye Tinubu in Nigeria, who was a slave trader - she’s still very highly regarded there. There is also Tinubu square in Lagos named after her
Fire him
Out of a cannon.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
They wont as hes bbc and the are as woke as it gets
Twice , poor quality the Robbie bloke , no balls
He's the wrong colour for being fired.
Hes very unprofessional
Will the antiques roadshow have an extra permanent black presenter on the next episode to make up for this i wonder?
Virtue signalling at it's finest.
Such situations as this does nothing but draw attention to idiots and does not erase history. We need to learn from the mistakes of the past and not hide them.
But nobody is learning. Look at the awful comments. They're defensive, racist and childish.
@ellie-tk4jy I think it would be worse if we hide parts of our history. Yes, you are very right about there being defensive, racist and childish behaviors among some people that we must tolerate or set straight.
We was all slaves at one time even British was slaves to the Irish Vikings Romans do we ever complain no its in the past so leave it in the past no matter how we try or what we do we can not change it but we can change the future by living together and getting on with your lives
thats right. look ahead and harden the f3ck up.
Your ignorance is extraordinary
@@Skiron411 Calm down dear! Your agenda is showing, as are the chips on your shoulders, clearly evident from your other comments. I don't suppose you'd like to tell us your - ahem - background? No, I thought not, but we don't even need three guesses. Mine is Scottish by the way, and I'm neither in some sort of personal denial, nor allergic to the wearing of delusional horse blinkers. Pip Pip! 🇬🇧
@@Skiron411
We owe you nothing...
Yours is even worse mate .
Anyone else want yet more reasons NOT to watch the BBC?
I have no problem with some woke dealer woke-ing him(?)self out of a job.
That's not how it works on the BBC. He'll have his own show on there next.
Not putting a monetary value on the alledged slave disc may well be valid. If so then we cant put a value on a German Luger, a Norman, Viking or Roman weapon of war. The African slave trade was truly abbhorent and so too were many deeds carried out by man to man both before and after the Atlantic Slave Trade.
Let's all gaze in wonder at the pyramids in Egypt, built by slaves from all over the world, like many tourist attractions of the past, but it's ok to marvel at the brutality that built these things.
Pyramids weren't built by slaves.
Its awful invite someone on to your show then lecture them about the slave trade. Typical BBC.
No mention that Britain was one of the first countries to abolish slavery and we had men-of-war patrolling East Africa to prevent slave ships crossing the Atlantic (over 2,000 sailors lost their lives doing that!)
British Museum in talks to give major artifacts 'back'..fun fact; Benin Bronzes are not Bronze..they made for a German alloy, bought from Europeans for slaves.
The Benin "bronzes" are made from the manacles used by nigerian slave traders when the manacles were discarded.The Nigerians have alot to answer for
Curators think they own what's in the British Museum, not the public.
@@MarkARhodiedon't be daft, trustees are appointed by the government to manage the museum, the public have no say in it.
So the BBC have intentionally embarassed this woman by transmitting this rubbish. I would have thought on that basis she would be able to take legal action against them, unless of course it was all set up.
Why feature it if you don't intend to value it. I guess we all know why.
Has the appraiser seen where the cobalt comes from that makes his mobile phone work?
Very good point..
Every item of value pre 1600 had some kind of connection to slavery worldwide
Isn’t that just history
It's a piece of history that we should still talk about today! Because the moment we forget about those dark pieces of history, they will get repeated!
Well we do need to do something with all these illegal invaders...
Most countries have dark pieces of history including the African countries whose Chieftains sold their people and kidnapped other ones to anyone who has money. Portugal bought 6 million & shipped them to South America, Brazil long before England got involved in slavery. France did, Spain did - look at the Aztecs & Caribbean countries; Netherlands did, so did Italy, Ottaman Turks, Egypt; Hellenes (Greece only became "Greece" in 1821!); Danish did; Austria did ALL are guilty of "enslaving" other people. Barbary pirates kidnapped & enslaved 0000s of Cornish & Devonian people.
Exactly.
Its going on all over the world still......
@@thinkingoutloud7425 Not in any White majority countries. Though if immigration keeps happening like it is, that might change in the future.
Why wouldn't he value it was it because it came from a black slave owner they never want to talk about that part of slave trade
Who?
I've seen the Antiques Roadshow give valuations on pieces from Nazi Germany. There are two possibilities here. If it was just by chance that this object ended up infront of this man then he is within his rights to say I have historical connections to this piece and I personally don't feel comfortable valuing it then that's fine, if someone had dark history tied to the Soviet Union and didn't feel comfortable valuing a piece from a Stalin gulag then that's understandable. However, if the show intentionally did this ( which I imagine they did ) then thats an issue. If this was all planned for TV then that's outrageous. Get someone who will value it.
It can only be intentional. There were many other objects there to be valued. There was no need to humiliate the woman who brought it in either. That could have been cut from the episode anyway. This went through editing, so the inclusion was intentional.
How stupid . History is so important. Good and bad .
If he was so bothered about slavery, perhaps he should look up that there are over 7,000,000 men, women and children in 2024 still enslaved......in AFRICA!!!
One more reason I do not watch or pay for a license
These people never show the slightest care about people actually enslaved now
There are more people enslaved today than there ever was in history and this plonker is worried about his granny's uncles aunt twice removed ( a slight exaggeration but you get my drift ) I actually think these people have no morals or values,they are empty vessels.
Is he being that strict with everything he is evaluating, ties to slavery, ties to the n-zis, ties to anything deemed bad, or is it just virtue signalling on one thing?
There's a lot of antiques with questionable histories, is he so virtuous with all of them?
Interestingly, as well as the slavery act of 1833, the 1833 Factory Act was implemented. This act decreed that no child under the age of 9 should work in the factories. No children aged between 9 and 13 should work longer than 9 hours a day. My ancestors were child workers, crawling under the machinery in the silk factories, piecing together broken threads. Children were working from dawn to dusk on the streets of London selling watercress, matches and other things, to make a few pennies for the family. Usually in ragged clothes and often shoeless and in all weathers. That never gets mentioned anywhere.
Playing the victim again they really are pathetic.
Who?
@@ellie-tk4jy Let them have it...'This is their TRUE NATURE' their hearts are from human ,and they don't care about anyone. Except, any opportunity to be the one voice, that determines, what people are, who they are, and what they can do and deserve. The bible says....' you will know them by their fruit'. Just another way of saying, their actions, speech, behaviour, decision making...etc...stay away from them...
Given that all exhibitors are arranged and vetted before filming, it is obvious that the BBC deliberately thrust this poor woman at someone they knew would react in that manner! So glad I don't pay their licence tax.
One would never hear an appraiser say; " I can't value that Roman coin because the Roman European slave trade was ten times as extensive as the Transatlantic slave trade", because there is zero virtue to be signalled in that statement, white Europeans exercise common sense, don't play the race victimhood card and don't blame anyone alive today for historical events that happened hundreds of years ago. At least he highlighted that the artefact belonged to a black slave trader, which is very unlike the BBC, they'll probably sack him!
It’s fine, no-one watches the BBC apart from the few that are too far gone.
If he can't do the job he should be sacked vote REFORM UK
FFS is there no end to this bollocks? Better not drive a VW or listen to Wagner because Hitler favoured both.
This comment section is hilarious.
Stop having that supposed expert on that show!
Value is subjective.
One mans treasure is another mans trash.
I certainly wouldn't pay a penny for this item, but I can understand that it has historical value.
Not that much of an expert is he....
No Expert, Instead he is the ‘token’ typical idiot that’s the point, that’s why we should all Turn Off!.
He just used the opportunity to humiliate and lecture a member of the public. Bad form to say the least & highly unprofessional. He should lose his job for that but its the anti-BBC so he won't.
This show has had a few patronising experts over the years.
You can't change history so that slavery never happened by refusing to acknowledge that it did.
Virtue signalling🙄
Are children of woke parents at school during the Easter Holidays- dont want to upset non Christians do we , and did they get eggs? Lot of children not getting Christmas presents too....yeh , hypocrites!
🤦♀️FFS !
Do folk *Still* watch the BBC? 😅
There are plenty of shocking things that went on in history... For example, the Egyptiens employed thousands of slaves to build their Pyramides but their treasures are now considered priceless and people come from all over the World and pay good money to see them in museums...
Yes, a Nigerian slave trader and there are still currently black slave traders in Africa but we white people still have apologise for what we ended over 200 years ago. By the way if you have a TV licence you are paying his wages!
The woke expert has significantly increased the value of the disc without realising it, the owner is now quids in.
🤦🏻♂️ time to switch the TV off permanently
Err didn't the Royal Navy fight to end slavery that's more than his ancestral people did.
Antiques Roadshow is recorded and shown at a later date. Why not get rid of this part at the editing stage?
I once tried to fully explain to someone that the out-takes at the end of 'Toy Story' weren't actual scenes that had gone wrong.
They simply didn't get it at all!
It's a sensitive issue.. nobody like slavery
Did this guy get the job on merit, or was it a box ticking exercise, in which case he has deprived a more deserving better qualified person of a job. He needs to be questioned on his real motives, as does the producers and all those responsible for this fakery.
Do you ask this question about white people in their jobs or do you assume they're all qualified and not just mediocre friends or acquaintances of people at the companies?
I can,t breath
i used to enjoy the roadshow but haven't watched it for years now due to my BBC boycott, this is silly and pointless, refusing to assess/value the item doesn't do anyone any good at all, slavery was abhorrent we all know that but as history shows many black africans sold and had slaves yet this is never acknowledged, the pernicious BLM racket has seen to that, this chap(the token black it has to be said) is just grandstanding like they all do
"We all know". Firstly no, judging by the comments many people don't know and just knowing isn't enough.
I found this episode rather disappointing.The man making the appraisal, could have been a little more professional, without the throat clearing.I guess given his ancestor's history as a freed slave in Sierra Leone, it felt personal.
If a Nazi helmet had turned up, would we have had a disclaimer, distancing the BBC from the horrors of Adolf Hitler?I don't think that the UK public need a lecture on the horrors of slavery,having outlawed it 200 years ago.
Does anyone have a rubber mallet handy?
Very professional. Nothing like personal feelings in the workplace 😂
Mental derangement..
It’s a historical artefact, treat it as such
Chuck him off the show.? No, The BBC will give him a raise.
If he didn't want to value it, good on him.
That's his perogative.
Being woke is forcing one's ideology down someone's throat.
Don't read history if you're too delicate to deal with anything unpleasant.
Do you read, poppet? I’m impressed.
He couldn't value it because he didn't know it's value and didn't want to appear stupid on tv. That's why he virtue signalled and thought his lack of knowledge in that area would be ignored.
War clubs he likes valuing those they could have killed hundreds of people but he doesn't mind that
Something else not to watch! Used to be a cozy program. Sick politics in everything!!
I don't place much value on that necklace/medallion, luv.
I watched this episode and the question I asked myself is, if he felt this the why oh why didn't anyone else value the item ????
That appraiser normally does anything with an African link, he's the only one they use for that stuff. If that's the case, can we please only have a European appraise European furniture?
I’ve noticed over the last couple of years how woke the antique roadshow has become. Another program I’ve watched from the beginning falls to these ludicrous pious individuals particularly after Ronnie Archer-Morgan joined. I’m also certain I’m not the only person to have noticed the trend of sending ‘celebrities’ off to tour America who are obliged to be taken around some slave museum and banging on about how dreadful we are. It’s sooooo tiring!
Ooh god forbid ,anything to do with blacks ,slavery ,i cant value ..WHY?
Maybe museum
or take it to a proper valuer and not a tv evangilsit.
He's not a real dealer then we go out of our way to protect the history of these pieces anyone worth their salt in the trade
There isn't many at all antiques that hasn't got a bad history but all with history
The only thing I will say is the ivory laws now are bad hence that would have been the only excuse to avoid it
Someone is going to turn up with a first edition Harry Potter and the BBC expert will refuse to value it. lol
More dribble from the bbc. Who's still paying a licence fee for this crap?
Funny how they didn't edit this segment out of the episode. Seems like they wanted to invite drama. As to the appraiser, he was obviously part of the decision to air it.
"He had some family connection with slavery, of a negative kind" As apposed to the positive family connections with slavery? You don't even need to parody these people anymore, Brass eye is too naturalistic for this joke of a news broadcaster.
Then don’t even feature the segment in the Roadshow. Info & a valuation is the whole point of the show. Without one what is the point of the show?
"Then don’t even feature the segment in the Roadshow."
Did you watch the same AR roadshow I did? It was there and I was appalled.
Like they don't know what is going to be presented to them beforehand, this was all orchestrated to create a scene.
If it was made of ivory, there's a good reason he couldn't value it- it would be illegal to sell it, and therefore it has NO value.
It's illegal to buy or sell ANY ivory or tortoiseshell (the shell of the leatherback turtle) in Britain. I have a couple of pairs of antique tortoiseshell spectacles that are value-less, as it's impossible to sell them.
The Road to Wigan Pier, sums up life in Britain between the wars. It was maybe a book of fiction, but very true.
Maybe he was embarrassed that the person who owned the disc was originally a Nigerian slave TRADER! I read an article, a few years ago, about a Nigerian person who looked into their ancestry and was devastated that their great grandfather was a slave trader - selling his own black people to the European slave traders! And Blacks want reparations from us - they should seek it first from Nigeria and other African nations which sold their own into slavery!
We're not "blacks" we're "black people". Humans. Reparations from whom exactly? We will presumably also be paying for each other. Think first then type.