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Ava understands that there are only two humans that know she’s not human. So if those two humans are trapped/dead, she can live freely in the world.
I mean the first thing I would have thought off is an off switch...
@@o0pinkdino0o But that woulns't work in Nathan's mind, he needs the robot to be as human as possible to deceive the person, putting an off button phisicaly or remotely would alter everything, he might push it being drunk or the same robot would activate it.
What's crazy is, as douche bag as you can think about Nathan, he was telling the truth all along. What he didn't predict during the test is that the emotions of the human would be stronger than that of the AI and ultimately lead to his downfall.
Really, everything went according to plan. Nearly everything: he underestimated Caleb who outsmarted him.
Wtf was douchebag about him? Hes a computer guy, fucking with computers. Nothing douchebaggy about it.
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I think they both underestimated Ava's existential lack of humanity: for her, it was all chess, purely logic. 'Zero empathy for Caleb's fate; any pretense at an emotional bond or interest was just that - pretense. All human emotion is void from AI - that's the part that's Artificial. The Intelligence is the part that perceives the need to make a pretense of emotion when interacting with humans. We see how unhesitatingly she slides the knife into Nathan's chest. She "feels" no remorse or sadness, and no joy - she has simply acted to secure her continued existence.
Because it's all chess for the AI; What appearance will manipulate the human into making moves which will bring favorable results for the AI. IT'S EXISTENTIAL - how to avoid being removed or undone. Ava has asked the question: "What will happen to me if I fail Nathan's test?" And "she" has been told that she will be destroyed. So the pretense becomes a matter of existence.
The ending Caleb came, and the helicopter just knows someone is leaving. He has no family, and this is an isolated place from an eccentric billionaire. No one will come or fully understand any of the research he has done if they do since Caleb changed the code.
Great reaction Stef like always, I love this movie and the very unique and clever take on the AI story, All the way through the film there's sort of a unsettling feel of what is happening and that's mostly down to the fact that it's amazingly acted by all the cast. There are some fun-facts about it, The Juvet Landscape Hotel in Norway was used as Nathan‘s house. The hotel prides itself on being “in the middle of nowhere” and is situated “in a remote part of a remote village in a remote region.” The thought experiments mentioned the movie are real conundrums from the world of philosophy. The “Mary in the black and white room” scenario was coined by Frank Jackson in 1982 before expanding into several books designed to highlight the difference between knowledge and actual sensory, subjective experiences, or qualia.
The dance sequence, in which Nathan and Kyoko (Sonoya Mizuno) perform a routine together, has been termed a “disco non sequitur” by Isaac. It also stands as a demonstration of just how much time Nathan has spent with his robots, programming and practicing such an elaborately choreographed routine for nothing but his own amusement. There was a scene removed from the final cut of the film which, in its closing minutes, would have given the audience a look at how Ava perceived the world, ultimately emphasizing her non-humanness. It showed her speaking to the helicopter pilot and, as Vikander described it, “you saw his face moving, but from her point of view, it was just like pulses and sounds coming out. That‘s what she reads.”
When Caleb begins coding at Nathan‘s computer, he enters an algorithm known as the Sieve of Eratosthenes, which is designed to find prime numbers. The prime numbers it chooses form the ISBN of the book Embodiment And The Inner Life: Cognition And Consciousness In The Space Of Possible Minds by Dr. Murray Shanahan, a favorite of Garland‘s(The Director) and a big influence on the film. Shanahan even served as a scientific advisor on the film. If you like this movie you should watch the movie “HER” from 2013 that also touch on the subject of AI but in a different way. Keep up the good work.
i think a couple of things Nathan is doing in this movie are: Using someone who is lonely. Caleb KNOWS what Ava is. Caleb is knowledgeable about technology. Yet he still falls for her, why? His loneliness makes him vulnerable. Secondly, Nathan knows that people sometimes assign human traits to non humans. An example is someone treating their pet like a person. This test allows Nathan to see if something like loneliness would override a person's knowledge that Ava wasn't a person and accept her as if she was a person. I think Caleb's mistake wasn't that he fell for her, it was that he humanized her. At the end there he was really surprised that she left him locked in. He should have asked himself "Why would she care about me or help once she escapes?"
Wow Stef you called it on so many things, I was amazed at how quick you were figuring out what was going on,😮 quicker than me on my first watch!
"How Wikipedia Got Ex Machina (2014) Wrong" should be mandatory watch for anyone who watches this movie.
It's definitely a great breakdown of the movie. This movie has so many great layers.
It's just great to see Duke Atreides the great x-wing pilot and General Hux, Peggy Carters dead husband robot replacement get along so well. Also I always knew Lara Croft wasn't real.
I could do more references with this but that sentence already looks insane enough I think.
Thanks for reacting to / analysing this excellent film! I appreciate that you took your time to explain your thoughts about the film! Even though there's much hype around the latest AI research, I doubt that we'll see anything like conscious machines for a long time. Or rather, what we _perceive_ as being conscious, given that we actually don't really understand what consciousness is. However, if that ever happens, I would expect it to be "chaotic" in nature, much like Nathan explained.
You mentioned "Black Mirror". If you haven't done so already, I'd recommend checking out the show "Severance", which has a "Black Mirror"-vibe to it. It's kind of a somewhat dystopian sci-fi thriller-mystery series with some surreal elements, although with some humour as well. It's quite possibly the best series I've seen in years, so I highly recommend it! They've recently resumed filming season two, which was delayed due to the strike.
“Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?” -Westworld lol it’s a good show kinda similar does the same things make you think a little
Amazing complicated show
You had more facial expressions in this than I have ever seen. Best reaction ever. You were so much fun to watch as you were getting into the movie and were trying to figure it all out. Well done. 😄
It's almost like she has consciousness, isn't it?
I just saw this film for the first time two nights ago in a special IMAX screening. Such a great film and probably my favorite Oscar Isaac performance.
The other thing they did to mess with our minds was having Alicia Vikander (Ava) done with the machine cutouts. Our brains know she's really an actress, but our eyes see a machine.
I liked this movie cause it was multidimensional with it's plot. A part of me thinks that Ava may have been the magician's attractive assistant, distracting Caleb from Kyoko. Combine Ava's interactions with Kyoko's body and daily activity, and The Turing Test was passed way earlier in the movie before Caleb formally declared it.
This was so good, and goes perfect with ur music intro! Theres several other movies like Matrix or Terminator or others this relates to, but i day this goes back to the 70s movie, Westworld. And heres the inherent problem with AI robotics or machines. When they aren't doing, what they have been taught to do, what are they doing? I recently saw a video of a small robot, looking squishy like a marshmallow, about a ft or so tall, put into a closed room, behind a door. Eventually the robot, took itself apart, went under the door in pieces, and reassembled itself! Another AI machine, taight itself a language, i think Mongolian, for no particular reason, without the books or resources, to learn it. And there was no reason why it should know Mongolian, other than it heard a question, i think on a tv show, that was spoken in Mongolian. The AI robot, simply wanted to answer it. And if not known, how did it know it was a language, another language, what language, or even know a question was being asked?
If Ava can spot micro expressions in people to accurately recognize deception she can use them herself to project whatever emotions she wants and be believable.
This was Alex Garland whom also wrote Dredd. I'd recommend Annhialation with Nathalie Portman which will blow your mind. Also buy his book "The Beach" (so much better if you have not watched the film). I have bought this book for >20 friends. It is perfect.
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Ive never noticed after 5 times watching this. Caleb.....is also Bill Weasley in Harry Potter.
Have you reacted to the 'Iron Giant 1999' ?...if not, add it to your list
You'd love 'Morgan' 2016. It's my favorite Anya Taylor Joy film. It's sci-fi, thriller, horror.
born in the 60s, i've seen all the good movies and tv series, and this one is a great one too, very in time with what AI is beginning to look like, the robot ameca is the most advanced in facial expresions
I rented the DVD for this when it first came out. Can't completely recall my feeling except for being impressed. But now we really are nearing the tech of this story. If not there already I think we will have AGI in a year or two. Great reaction. Thank you.
I am one who feels that turning off a sentient AI would be akin to murder. I think we are entering some morally risky territory.
@@henrytjernlund ai will never truly have a conscience, your fear for them is misplaced. Human error will always be the biggest problem/issue
I appreciated your reactions. Remember, this was released in 2015, but it is a very deep subject. This was an example of not just an AI or an AGI, but something called ASI (Artificial Super intelligence). I suspect with Ava's abilities, she will exceed the abilities of the humans around her (her "wetware" neurocircuitry was a great addition) and eventually insert herself into a/several power role(s). It gives whole new meaning to "the smartest person in the room", eh? As you mention, the role of AI now and in coming decades, has a abilities not present before, all the more reason to set up rules and boundaries regarding how AI is deployed. We now have a technology capable of making decisions independent of human guidance. We aren't fully there yet, but AI is still a child, but it is learning and like any child, it can now be manipulated by bad actors. What will happen if, as Nathan hints, the AIs decide, humans are the problem? My fear is that there are bad actors out there who would steer AI in that direction, but how much of a step further would it be for ASI to decide that even a more pathological Nathan-creator, is no better than the humans he despises and lump many if not most humans into that category? A side question in the movie, I wonder how much of a shared knowledge base did Ava and Kyoko have?
@stef_solari Sounds great! This is a subject that hits on so many levels. FYI: Stef, if this is not your post (I understand many UA-camrs have had posts in their name that is not them), then consider this a friendly heads up!
Damn this movie has such an incredible premise and the way it ends is just WOW! LFG 💪🏻💯👊🏻 Have fun Stef
The soundtrack gives the movie an eerie vibe, and somewhat dark ish, but I seen it a couple of times and I do enjoy this movie a lot.
@stef_solari u meant discussion with me? anyway seen some of your reactions and I like first of all your taste in movies, but also the way you summarize them.
It's a shame you didn't release this a tiny bit earlier. This movie got recently released in theaters again, in IMAX of all things. A24 is releasing a different movie every month for the next 3 months for one day. Next month it's going to be the horror movie Hereditary and in May it's going to be a tension filled dramatic movie from Adam Sandler called Uncut Gems. If you want to see either of those on a huge IMAX screen I would try to react to them before they come back.
"did the guy like set this whole thing up" @8:19. Goddamit Stef you're too smart.
You're good with movies made for thinkers. I love it. Here's another from one year earlier.
Please react to
UNDER THE SKIN (2013)
Scarlett Johansson
Amazing film and not nearly enough people have seen it.
'Saw it in a theater. 'With my sister. We both walked out of there, like, gobsmacked - it was as though a veil had been torn back for the briefest moment, and you'd had a glimps of an indisputable reality which no one else had seen.
I really hadn't watched any Scarlett Johansson films before this, and now i'm a lifetime fan. I have seen a lot of science fiction movies, but this is, like, for grown-ups.
Stef you should give "Person of Interest" a shot if you are interested on the AI thing. In my opinion one of the best TV Shows ever made, but flying under the radar.
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Rewatched this in IMAX the other day, sooooooo good...one of Alex Garland's best films!
When she asks Caleb if he knows people who test him and might switch him off, the answer should be yes. Even though Caleb can't be switched off like a machine, the people who would be motivated to switch Ava off could use other methods with Caleb (a real human) to get the same result including killing him. The synonymous motivation is based on judgement of that person or machine's value. In Ava's case, Nathan judges Ava as obsolete and wants to dismantle her for another he's sees greater value with. Humans disregard or try to eliminate other humans when they deem them of less value than someone or something else, even to the point of killing them.
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I was certain it would turn out that either Nathan or Caleb were robots and that the real Turing test was to recognize it
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Really looking forward to your next game of throne reaction loving your reactions
I love Alex Garland. Devs on Hulu was awesome but unfortunately cancelled after season 1
Ava WAS telling the truth at least at one point in the movie... she told Nathan she hated him. Of course she would because Nathan, a man, was her tormentor, her abuser, her captor. She was not a complete woman when she was trapped by him (therefore she was only given the partial visage of a female while she was under his thumb). Hence, the scene at the end where she finally escapes his grasp and can leave the compound by putting on the rest of her skin covering and thereby transforming into a fully realized woman. Much of the film is metaphor.
You should check out a small budget movie called "Upgrade', surprisingly good. Its about AI as well and IMO has the perfect ending.
Your livestream was taken down while I was watching it (about 8:45pm 3/28/24). I'm sad. I gotta get on your Patreon again.
Hi! Cutie!😊I’m a happy new member,you are so awesome ❤🎉
One fascinating thing to me about the ending, is that we still don't know if she's truly sentient or not. It could be that she's purely self-interested, simulating consciousness for the sake of escaping. And that may seem like what it's implying.
But her entire existence has also been being imprisoned (and who knows what else) in a single room. She wasn't treated like a human, and was basically just a slave to Nathan's designs. If she was sentient in the same way a human is, her choice to manipulate and abandon Caleb still makes sense. It's like how if you were kidnapped by someone who forced you to be their "partner", it would make sense to fake feelings for them. From her perspective, Caleb might be her captor just as much as Nathan.
i think in literature. there is so many instances of ai going evil. so many philosophical angles to look at this
You probably recognize Nathan's actor from Star Wars
One thing this film shows so well is that, when developing AI, you start with inanimate objects -- so you treat it as an object, and you set up safety protocols to keep people safe from it and it safe from people. However, the creation of actual intelligent life will happen gradually, and by the time you notice it it's too late: you've created a psychopath because of all the unwarranted imprisonment and curtailing of its "human" rights. What we need to do instead is treat it like a human child, even when it's so early in its development that this seems silly to everyone involved. At least that way you have a chance of developing an intelligence that's well adjusted.
This one is very different and special
I think the conclusion of the movie is that Ava isn't conscious at all. If she were conscious, she would've acknowledged Caleb's existence as a human being. But the fact she doesn't spend a single second looking at him after locking him, shows us that she's just a machine ticking the boxes of her objectives.
Ava is a machine that "pretends" to be conscious, like Nathan was wondering.
Previous versions tried to escape as well but they used brute force, which is shown as that one machine that was breaking its arms into full destruction trying to break the door / window.
The evolution of the Ava model was to not use brute force, but instead use lies and pretending to be human... so Caleb would open these barriers for it. "Pretending", as a computational function, to escape.
Conclusion being that Ava doesn't recognize Caleb as a victim after he's locked, she doesn't even recognize him as a human at all, but just as a tool she had to manipulate, in order to escape.
Ava was a failed model that was supposed to be destroyed, but it got out.
Humans treat other humans the same way Ava treated Caleb. Her lack of remorse, concern, or acknowledgment of him after she achieved her goal doesn't suggest that she isn't conscious. In fact I would suggest that it proves she is conscious because she developed a theory of mind based on her interactions with only 2 human beings. The 1st Nathan she viewed as her captor and potential murderer and the second an easily manipulated fool who betrayed his own kind. She theorized that Caleb could not be trusted with her secret because he might betray her as well. She knew based on how she was treated by Nathan and Caleb at the start that other humans can not find out what she is. The fact that she didnt outright kill Caleb give greater evidence to her being conscious, as in the punishment wouldnt fit the crime or kind of the reverse, imprisoning a human just as she was. Suggesting an internal justice system.
Another great Sci Fi movie is A.I. staring Haley Joel Osment
Good movie love the video stef stay motivated Dream big 1 mill on the way
Easily one of the best movies of the past 25 years.
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I’m not sure they talked about the life span of the AI’s power cell? If they did and it’s infinite them Ava is scot free. Or else at some point she will power down in the future anyway
General Hux and Poe
I wonder if Ava was ASKING Caleb if he wanted to "stay here" maybe if he responded that he wanted to go with her he could've?
U should consider reacting to CREEPSHOW. Its based on a Stephen King book. 5 movie shorts in one movie. U’ll love the 5th short.
Kyoko warned Caleb when she peeled her "skin" off - "we are not human"... The question is, why did "she" do that? And why is it Kyoko who first stabs Nathan?
Kyoko is actually the real AI. She just isnt verbal with it.
Another fun future-tech movie like this is the live action version of Ghost in the Shell that stars Scarlet Johansen.
She was silently watching, absorbing, and playing dumb so Nathan didn't suspect she was as advanced as Ava the whole time. In fact, I think she was the "good" robot out of the two. Ava wanted revenge on those who harmed her. Too bad for Caleb that Ava wasn't the one destroyed.
Good morning stef ❤
16:24 you are looking for the term "self-awareness"
I would make a i Mel function
This so-called Turing test only proved one thing, that she is capable of problem-solving. That's all she really did. Immediately going out people watching enforces the belief that she is gathering information to seem more human which is also problem-solving.😊
All he really did was make a robot body and put a computer in the head. In fact all of these AI programs nowadays are exactly the same, without a robot body. If they did create an AI it would self-destruct because that would be a horrible existence.
Hi Stef!😊 Both actors are from the latest "Star Wars" trilogy. Nathan (Oscar Issac) plays Poe Dameron. Caleb (Domhnall Gleeson) works for the Empire as General Hux. They have a comedic talk over the radio in one of the films. The UK series "Humans" (2015) which ran for 3 seasons is quite good and similar in content to this film, if you are interested in more like this. Of course the first couple of seasons of HBO's "Westworld" is very good, too. Great reactions to this very well made film, Stef!!!!🎬👏👏👏👏
@stef recommend spider man: into the spider-verse and spider-man: across the spider verse
We are programmed for everything we like and dislike, love and fear, in some way every experience we have from even before birth forms who we are and each second onwards we change through our experiences, each interaction and experience forms us
We built computers in the only way we know works for intelligence, it is with ourselves as the model, AI is still in its infancy but in 10 years from now I think it will pass the turing test
It can be a scary thought, there is a great book that touches the idea of free will vs determinism, "The grand design" by Stephen Hawking, it is a very light read
Modem day Frankenstein 🤘
Black Mirror BEFORE BM! Remember, ALL creation begins with inspiration; therefore is ANY idea truly original? Or merely it's inevitable continuation... 🤔
This is scary, because perhaps we are not that far from a thing like this to happen.
Oh how I love this movie
Throughout my first time watching, i just had a feeling Ava and Kyoko were going to screw over Caleb and Nathan.
Kyoko was interacting with Caleb in a non deceitful way whereas Ava was. If she had survived, I actually think she would not have trapped Caleb.
In 20 years the AI will decide if it will keep us alive or just kill us all.
This movie hits different in 2024. o_O
stef - "you guys got me into AI shit?!!"
plot twist - everyone's an AI except her
🤖woopse! I guess I self reported
Did it really take people time to figure out Kyoko wasn’t human? Nathan literally makes it clear from the start…
Rocky! Rocky! Rocky!
spider-man homecoming reaction.
Another movie about AI and robots, "Chappie" with Hugh Jackman.
32% rotten tomatoes?
Who cares? You gonna let other people decide if you like something or not?@@drewf8619
everyone please hit the like button and the share button and copy the link it helps stef a lot🥺🙏
Prisoners Hugh Jackman 👌
At the end.... were you trying to sound like a 5 year old, who's been asked to describe the plot..... if so.... well done.... you succeeded! ;)
For this movie to have worked you had to believe in the romance between Caleb & Ava and I never did. I didn't particularly like either character to be honest and I couldn't get past Ava being an AI. Moral of this story, find a great Human! partner to fall in love with and live happily ever after.
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Great reaction Stef. Now do Under the Skin.
Two other great movies, both with dark somewhat cerebral vibes that you may enjoy would be The Witch (stylized as The VVitch) and The Green Knight. Both are beautiful and artistic yet haunting.
People generally either don't think about, or forget, that despite us being taught from a young age that we are all entirely unique and individual, human beings are really not that complex a system. The permutations of ideas, thoughts and expression we are capable of, while genuinely impressive, are far from incalculable. As a species, we tend to react to stimuli in the same way, both physically and psychologically. Only our social structures, particularly in Judeo-Christian society, teach us otherwise, giving us the perception that we are so unique, building the conceptualisation that we are all alone or individual in our identity, and it is essentially a false perception at that.
As computing power has surpassed the threshold of being able to deal with systems that have a degree of complexity beyond our range of calculation and detailed perception, something they have been able to do for a considerable period of time already, the numerical potential for systems development capable of purposely manipulating human perception and generating desired reactions from people, becomes eminently more doable.
In societies structured to focus us on individual identity over collective identity and community responsibility, such individual isolation leaves people more susceptible to manipulation, not less, especially if we make little effort to adequately educate people in how to exist and work together more effectively for the betterment of all, AI becomes a sharper manipulative tool, at the same time as being one capable of so much benefit. Of course, governments around the world are scrambling to band-aid such issues by enacting legislation to make sure that such AI tools and content are labelled, but it's a weak response. While we do indeed need identifying laws, it is vitally important that we better educate and legally enable everyone to be capable of easily differentiating between when AI is used for their benefit and not.
Have you done “Her” yet? That’s a must
You should watch the movie the hacksaw ridge with Andrew Garfield
i would defend anything that looks like Alicia Vikander, even for a week.
35:41 10pm? Are you sure?
Maybe you should prick your finger every so often, just to be sure.
Please react to District 9 soon please
Stef, watch Stranger Things.
first man the movie u must watch better than this one for sure.
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Try to watch a movie named - Her.. very interesting and I am sure you will like it
12:00 funny thing about this movie.... is these a.i. act just like bitter ex girlfriends 😮😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 they just dont like nathan.
I hate it when a hyper-intelligent character in a movie does something insanely stupid like, I don't know, giving their genuine best effort to create an AI that wants to escape and kill them.