I just six starred my Astar after watching this, Ironically I also just finished my triple icaru team this morning too. Got new teams for both dungeons now. 46 sec on necro! Thanks man!
I think the consistency of this team is highly related to rule quality, as there is no healer, killing boss slower will lead to assured fail, so hopefully this works for all viewers. I really like Astar usage, very underrated PVE unit!!
@@jimirio4191 he is nice alternative, but it's not that stable (time, but it's 100% safe) because his ai, around 40s - 1:20, damn he use s1 alot .edit i already maxed his skill btw
Lupinus works fine at the same 48s average Lapis does. Astar is for sure faster on the same rune set. Also, Lupinus seems to lower the rune requirements as well due to the slow and less burst damage reliance, meaning less HP needed to live.
Leaving a comment to feed the algorithm. I need more powerful runes and I can clear nb12 slowly and don't have GB12 or DB12 team yet. I can 2A an Icaru or two no problem. Lack of runes and too many trash ones in my inventory is messing up my progress
@@shinedday6298 my team is my old nb10 team it was about 85% consistent and Fire Panda, Colleen, Fran, Water Twins, but I made some rune changes and went 0 for 2 so I need to test more
I tested this team with Shamann (Light griffon) last week and it doesn't work, because of the lack of multi-hits, you don't shield break often enough. Also his S1 is a little weak so it didn't always clear midboss, in runes pretty comparable to the ones you're using now except one of my Icaru was in a CD build
@@Seiishizo Shamann works in Ace's setup with Rock On! homie + 2 Raoq + Lead. The extra sustain from Shamann isn't usually sufficient by itself, but paired with the S2 Operation Beta - Protect from homie it can save some runs at the cost of time. This makes it a more viable team for early-mid game players, imo. But the skill animations of homunculi are always slower than simple team ups, and shamann only really works if you can guarantee the shield being broken every time (maybe Julie s1/s2 > Abigail s1/s2 > Sophia s3 > +1 > Shamann similar to your other team, but after the resurrection with cd's I don't think you'll have consistent results)
Awesome job working out that team ill definitely build an Astar now xD, now I'm wondering if the newly buffed Teshar + Triple Icaru will work in GB12 O.O too bad i don't have Teshar. Anyways Liked and shared nice work xD.
As a G3 player, what are you currently focusing on farming? You have built all the B12's and the new B10 teams. I have seen the recent rush video you have posted and the fat Lushen crit dmg artifact you're currently using is painfully low on CD so that looks like something that would be rapidly improved. In your opinion, what would benefit your account most right now? Thanks man!
I'm mostly in artifact dungeons. until i want a certain upgrade of a specific rune set. like will. that's why I switched for a bit to NB12. did that for about 4-5 days. now back to artifacts. Next stop will be giants at some point.
Skip? I don't skip, I'm not here to watch your runes, that makes me sad, I'm not here to watch your team, that I can find on reddit or whatever, I am here to hear your insights on things, that's the real gold ;)
lapis raoq lanett/astar/water homie works really well in toa as well. Raoq should be fastest, he will always do team up and the two sk1 aoe attacks will one-shot the wave.
Astar has global hp leader skill so i think that will make her not dying. I am not sure if the icaru speed lead is a neccessity cause necro is slower than dragons. Also having the eahp lead makes the shield so it is easy fix on ehp
my astar always die at the trash wave so i change it to vampire but now I am thinking of it... Astar's 3rd is useless in vampire runes. should I go back to rage?
Awesome work as always. Now 3 icaru can work every where eccept for giant and steel. About giant, you already have a 100% success team 1min average for the autofarm? if not are you planning to do a video about this?
Already have a video on it. But its with lushen so its very lushen s3 rng depended which i don't like. ua-cam.com/video/GWdA6Tf_6u4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Seiishizo
Nice, this time the volume's great :D Could u show how much bonus atk and how much cd your verd has to achieve 46-47 db12? I have similar icarus and still waiting for some more ancient energy to 2a the last one so I'd like to see what times I can expect. Also how much difference do 3 sets of fight do?
From the top of my head i think that astar should be a lot faster than the light griffffffffffon because of her aoe s1 that helps clearing the waves faster (specialy wave 3). However, the shaman s1 sustain could make it a lot safer. Maybe, if you build both you can get both bennefits. Or maybe, you can only get shitty times from using both with 3x icaru, but at least you would get some fun dmg on the boss. This light griffffffffon can get you some realy high numbers.
i think double astar double icaru raoq is faster and safer and with low rune quality can someone try it i did with iris astar and everytime one is picked , triple icaru double astar too
Could I replace Astra with Lannet for additional sustain? Except her heal is conditional so she will 99% of time miss it :P but teamup lower cooldown, so it should work...
Does destroyed max hp effect the damage? Maybe that's one of the reasons it's not good damage. Pretty good video, I'll subscribe and watch rest of your videos now
If you don't have the runes required for astar: Tricaru and double astar Scrap the raoq And build 2 shitty 100%cr astar on vamp That team didn't fail me once and i've been using it for months now
I am actually building triple icaru and this seems to me like another option where to use it. I like that. My raoq got higher dmg than this one so Im wondering how it will go. BTW I think necro got capped spd so you can actually build both raoqs super slow with higher dmg.
My triple icaru verde team already works in nb12 (and pc10), the verde just need to have enough ehp to survive a hit from the boss from half hp (after he had been taken) it is kinda slow with 1:10 average and 1:05 fastest. Its kinda enough for me since i dont really wanna invest some good runes on another pve only unit.
@@Seiishizo Does the team not kill midboss before he gets a turn without the spd lead? It only helps them if they lap no? I do think that the 25% HP lead could replace up to 2 shield sets
I am struggling to build icaru to work on my alt due to rune requirement. It isn't easy to get needed def to trigger icaru to bring two other units together.. that'll be your bottle neck. I have no issue on my main as I have bunch of 30%+ def on slot 3/5 but if you are early/mid game, you might struggle
@@oldsnail Farming some slot 1 and def on slot 2-4-6 determination runes is an option. Since those don't need high def% stats and any stat will be fine. It Will take a while but it will reduce the rune quality needed for the whole team!
this team failed me 1 time in like 2000 runs probably (i dont know how honestly), so extremely safe. my best time was 35 seconds with astar on not that great of a vampire set (+1900atk, 180cdmg)
Yeah, i think these kind of videos are great, but after auto farm i have seen alot of complaint about people having no crystals for refil in my guild and in chats, witch makes me wonder that no one farmed properly before so they never spended theyr crystals power farming like they should. But they are doing it now because auto farm, and powerfarm = crystal burning Speed clear it is not so desirable anymore , since people burn crystals and leave the game for the day because there's nothing to do, but consistency is because every energy counts. I'm not complaining, i pay for my crystals but, now speed clear is a p2w content or i'm crazy ?
I still think it is worth it, most ppl will stay f2p, but now will farm more and summon less, and spd teams helps you burn crystals faster and play less, or do other stuff like rta or something IRL. Imo its a good thing getting some time away from the game and still using your resources correctly
Some people power farmed for years, don't expect people to keep on farming for 6y+ with the same intensity.. it's true, now it's much easier to farm like a maniac and then sit around without crystals anymore.. well. cash or.. do.. what? play other games? We need free refills for playing rta ;-)
Well in a way yes, but you can also see it as you can clear your crystals faster and then do something else than keep your phone open. or you go RTA or something :P its not a must (like the old habit) to always farm. Plus we see an upgrade in crystals by for example siege and labby rewards. and i expect more to come ^.^
Bruh there is no way a casual player like me can farm all day. Speed teams is a must, I have a lot of other things to settle aside from just farming a game.
What's up bro this is charmi. Can I upload and translate this on my channel with my runes? This team worked really good but I just added some. plz reply thanx :>
with my bad runes it was easier to bail raoq and go astar (lead) + 3x icaru. 100% safe , astar on vamp 1min runs no shield runes. (F3/C1 account runes)
I just six starred my Astar after watching this, Ironically I also just finished my triple icaru team this morning too. Got new teams for both dungeons now. 46 sec on necro! Thanks man!
Keep helping people with showing teams and their runes . Subscribed!
NGL, the backdrop thing is huge. Leaves a big amount of room for the game
I think the consistency of this team is highly related to rule quality, as there is no healer, killing boss slower will lead to assured fail, so hopefully this works for all viewers.
I really like Astar usage, very underrated PVE unit!!
The light griffin might be a good alternative for big damage and heals.
@@jimirio4191 he is nice alternative, but it's not that stable (time, but it's 100% safe) because his ai, around 40s - 1:20, damn he use s1 alot
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i already maxed his skill btw
@@thelazt16 I'll be testing it after I finish another Icaru. I'd rather just use what I have and be 10-15 seconds slower than build Astar tbh.
You're a genius, man! Now I have a reason to build my Astar :) Thanks so much!
My dude thanks you help me a lot with this video? Bcuz this team pretty much works everywhere. No gigants tho.
Lupinus works fine at the same 48s average Lapis does. Astar is for sure faster on the same rune set. Also, Lupinus seems to lower the rune requirements as well due to the slow and less burst damage reliance, meaning less HP needed to live.
Leaving a comment to feed the algorithm. I need more powerful runes and I can clear nb12 slowly and don't have GB12 or DB12 team yet. I can 2A an Icaru or two no problem. Lack of runes and too many trash ones in my inventory is messing up my progress
For nb12, I use 2 raoqs, fran Loren and colleen
@@rushilgupta7987 fran colleen? kinda same monster, buff atk, brk atk
@@shinedday6298 my team is my old nb10 team it was about 85% consistent and Fire Panda, Colleen, Fran, Water Twins, but I made some rune changes and went 0 for 2 so I need to test more
Shinedday because Colleen has multi hits and yeah mainly for the extra healing with less cool downs and 4 hits on s2
Shinedday but fire panda is a better replacement but I never fused him to I use collen
Finally someone who does not say, this runes are not something crazy, nicw vid
Thanks for this video! strangely enough I have the exact team except they're not runed and sitting in storage
dude ty so much for this amazing content !!!
Legend once in my life, pog!
I tested this team with Shamann (Light griffon) last week and it doesn't work, because of the lack of multi-hits, you don't shield break often enough. Also his S1 is a little weak so it didn't always clear midboss, in runes pretty comparable to the ones you're using now except one of my Icaru was in a CD build
ah okay, good to know so I dont have to test that and make one
It does work(win) but it's way slower, not worth it at all.
@@Seiishizo Shamann works in Ace's setup with Rock On! homie + 2 Raoq + Lead. The extra sustain from Shamann isn't usually sufficient by itself, but paired with the S2 Operation Beta - Protect from homie it can save some runs at the cost of time. This makes it a more viable team for early-mid game players, imo. But the skill animations of homunculi are always slower than simple team ups, and shamann only really works if you can guarantee the shield being broken every time (maybe Julie s1/s2 > Abigail s1/s2 > Sophia s3 > +1 > Shamann similar to your other team, but after the resurrection with cd's I don't think you'll have consistent results)
@@Seiishizo 3x icaru raoq kro works decent
I've wanted to build an astar for so long, finally I have a reason
same :D
Seem like Astar finally found herself a family.
or a pack
or a pack
if anyone remembers this is what the twins use to do when they first came out. They shouldn't of nerfed them feelsbadman
Hmm kinda yea. but now they got out classes by 2a's since the b12's
Hey seii it's been a while, quit for a while and I'm back :)
u never fail to shock me, keep up the work and gl in swc!
Awesome job working out that team ill definitely build an Astar now xD, now I'm wondering if the newly buffed Teshar + Triple Icaru will work in GB12 O.O too bad i don't have Teshar. Anyways Liked and shared nice work xD.
passive dont work on teamup
@@Seiishizo Just built it used it with x2 Icaru x2 Raok and got 46s my best time on first try xDD thanks again for the vid!
OP bro, gz
Wow... attack on the water inu and still able to make requirement is really crazy strong. That is great runes for them
its actually not that great. I expected more of it haha
As a G3 player, what are you currently focusing on farming? You have built all the B12's and the new B10 teams. I have seen the recent rush video you have posted and the fat Lushen crit dmg artifact you're currently using is painfully low on CD so that looks like something that would be rapidly improved. In your opinion, what would benefit your account most right now? Thanks man!
I'm mostly in artifact dungeons. until i want a certain upgrade of a specific rune set. like will. that's why I switched for a bit to NB12. did that for about 4-5 days. now back to artifacts. Next stop will be giants at some point.
@@Seiishizo Good stuff. Always good to hear your input. Thanks!
it's earlier than you said :P keep up the good content ^^
Finally a player who take astar
Skip? I don't skip, I'm not here to watch your runes, that makes me sad, I'm not here to watch your team, that I can find on reddit or whatever, I am here to hear your insights on things, that's the real gold ;)
:D thanks ^.^
Just tried Astar Fran raoq and icaru on karzan and it works really well too
Awesome team, Good reason to build astar
lapis raoq lanett/astar/water homie works really well in toa as well. Raoq should be fastest, he will always do team up and the two sk1 aoe attacks will one-shot the wave.
dang..even without the slot 4 rune, your raoq is still much better than mine
Too much farming :P
WOW finally a use of this trash
Thanks, might not go for the griff soon. did too much 2a's lately
tks for sharing
不用谢 :D
Astar has global hp leader skill so i think that will make her not dying. I am not sure if the icaru speed lead is a neccessity cause necro is slower than dragons. Also having the eahp lead makes the shield so it is easy fix on ehp
speed tuning would be off as the icarus are too slow. plus boosting the 8k base hp of astar is meh
very nice!
my astar always die at the trash wave so i change it to vampire but now I am thinking of it... Astar's 3rd is useless in vampire runes. should I go back to rage?
ua-cam.com/video/xhkTyzMTdvE/v-deo.html i use vamp star in the best version of this team :)
@@Seiishizo thank you so much... can an ordinary tricaru work? the one with no damage build?
@@norbertomangunay245 yep
@@Seiishizo OK. thnks. maybe im just lacking damage from Astar that is why i fail.
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you keeping that rune? what will make you sell that rune? if it doesn't roll on cd? just wanted to know your perspective regarding runes
i like to roll everything in chance of getting a high triple roll for dmg stats :P
@@Seiishizo thanks!
Awesome work as always. Now 3 icaru can work every where eccept for giant and steel. About giant, you already have a 100% success team 1min average for the autofarm? if not are you planning to do a video about this?
Already have a video on it. But its with lushen so its very lushen s3 rng depended which i don't like. ua-cam.com/video/GWdA6Tf_6u4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Seiishizo
I wonder if triple raoq replace tricaru in db10? Cuz astar is the main dmg dealer, and all the inus are just for the team up and turn cycling :/
can, but tricarus are still better
@@Seiishizo can u please explain a bit more, sir?
@@kidkaitou3226 because icarus team up with more units. plus the fact that 3 raoqs won't work in db12. its better to have more icarus than raoqs
@@Seiishizo i thought icarus team up with 3. Much appriciated ;)
Nice one ❤️
Nice, this time the volume's great :D
Could u show how much bonus atk and how much cd your verd has to achieve 46-47 db12? I have similar icarus and still waiting for some more ancient energy to 2a the last one so I'd like to see what times I can expect. Also how much difference do 3 sets of fight do?
DB12 video will come somewhere end of the week i think.
You can build a vamp aster for lower runes quality
Correct
From the top of my head i think that astar should be a lot faster than the light griffffffffffon because of her aoe s1 that helps clearing the waves faster (specialy wave 3). However, the shaman s1 sustain could make it a lot safer. Maybe, if you build both you can get both bennefits. Or maybe, you can only get shitty times from using both with 3x icaru, but at least you would get some fun dmg on the boss. This light griffffffffon can get you some realy high numbers.
alrighty, well i'm building a second icaru then :) thanks!
Fvck bro! So sick.. and with those insane runes?! How did ya even make those super high stats?!
Is it possible to make the light griffon ia proof? like making sure the boss has less than 30% or something for it to use always skill 2?
With this team, no not really i think
i think double astar double icaru raoq is faster and safer and with low rune quality can someone try it i did with iris astar and everytime one is picked , triple icaru double astar too
don't have skillups for a second astar. but might work yea :)
Could I replace Astra with Lannet for additional sustain? Except her heal is conditional so she will 99% of time miss it :P but teamup lower cooldown, so it should work...
Lanett would most likely use her s3, that would take a long, long time. making her inefficient in the runs.
its an option but astra is way faster.
Does destroyed max hp effect the damage? Maybe that's one of the reasons it's not good damage. Pretty good video, I'll subscribe and watch rest of your videos now
and magic mike lol
Wow nice team new subcriber here thanks
Dude.... you’re using Astar... I love that unit.. 10/10 will build
Does astar need to be max skilled to work? And how well would lannett work with this team
need? no, useful? yes
It`s cool!
If you don't have the runes required for astar:
Tricaru and double astar
Scrap the raoq
And build 2 shitty 100%cr astar on vamp
That team didn't fail me once and i've been using it for months now
I made my raoq 5k hpand 261def is that ok? Tho i manage to imitate spd atk cd but not the hp ahahaha i dont have the icaru yet so idk
Trial and error my friend. just test it ^.^
@@Seiishizo thanks
I am actually building triple icaru and this seems to me like another option where to use it. I like that. My raoq got higher dmg than this one so Im wondering how it will go. BTW I think necro got capped spd so you can actually build both raoqs super slow with higher dmg.
My triple icaru verde team already works in nb12 (and pc10), the verde just need to have enough ehp to survive a hit from the boss from half hp (after he had been taken) it is kinda slow with 1:10 average and 1:05 fastest. Its kinda enough for me since i dont really wanna invest some good runes on another pve only unit.
true, but i use my raoqs of sf/pc which are tuned to other units there etc
Will 3ple icaru plus light griffon work? Im new maybe u tried it already
works worse
Why not use the Astar HP lead? It would make the runs safer and its not like the Icaru need the speed right?
for speed tuning, yes need it. 25% of 8.8k hp is nothing anything always
@@Seiishizo Does the team not kill midboss before he gets a turn without the spd lead? It only helps them if they lap no? I do think that the 25% HP lead could replace up to 2 shield sets
@@DaTantrumHasArrived main point is icarus not moving first without lead
Hi seiishizo. I did your team. But my magic knight keeps on dying. We got the same stats tho. Whats the problem???
less shield sets. or up the hp. ive also seen some use vamp
Can I build this if I’m like early game/ mid game because I just made double roaq and I’m thinking of acaru
Not sure, but in case of more early/mid game vamp astar might help
I am struggling to build icaru to work on my alt due to rune requirement. It isn't easy to get needed def to trigger icaru to bring two other units together.. that'll be your bottle neck. I have no issue on my main as I have bunch of 30%+ def on slot 3/5 but if you are early/mid game, you might struggle
@@oldsnail Farming some slot 1 and def on slot 2-4-6 determination runes is an option. Since those don't need high def% stats and any stat will be fine. It Will take a while but it will reduce the rune quality needed for the whole team!
Vampire runes on Astar would made possible 4-man team ?
possible but it kinda kills her passive for the speed changing plus lower dmg output
@@Seiishizo Her passive is about lower HP... MAYBE a squish vampire Astar works IDK... i thing worth a try
@@emedeirox her speed in lower hp works for cutting which gives fastest runs. cus you just want that on boss and mid boss. but not waves
Any info on which Astar transmog is fastest?
s2 on other transmogs are faster but s1 is slower. so therefore (if im not mistaken) normal one is best.
does lushen work instead of astar?
like this for consistency. no
this team failed me 1 time in like 2000 runs probably (i dont know how honestly), so extremely safe. my best time was 35 seconds with astar on not that great of a vampire set (+1900atk, 180cdmg)
I think it's based on HP number cause otherwise it would say HP ratio if it was %.
yea i noticed later its number based
Yeah, i think these kind of videos are great, but after auto farm i have seen alot of complaint about people having no crystals for refil in my guild and in chats, witch makes me wonder that no one farmed properly before so they never spended theyr crystals power farming like they should.
But they are doing it now because auto farm, and powerfarm = crystal burning
Speed clear it is not so desirable anymore
, since people burn crystals and leave the game for the day because there's nothing to do, but consistency is because every energy counts.
I'm not complaining, i pay for my crystals but, now speed clear is a p2w content or i'm crazy ?
I still think it is worth it, most ppl will stay f2p, but now will farm more and summon less, and spd teams helps you burn crystals faster and play less, or do other stuff like rta or something IRL. Imo its a good thing getting some time away from the game and still using your resources correctly
Some people power farmed for years, don't expect people to keep on farming for 6y+ with the same intensity.. it's true, now it's much easier to farm like a maniac and then sit around without crystals anymore.. well. cash or.. do.. what? play other games? We need free refills for playing rta ;-)
Well in a way yes, but you can also see it as you can clear your crystals faster and then do something else than keep your phone open. or you go RTA or something :P its not a must (like the old habit) to always farm.
Plus we see an upgrade in crystals by for example siege and labby rewards. and i expect more to come ^.^
Bruh there is no way a casual player like me can farm all day. Speed teams is a must, I have a lot of other things to settle aside from just farming a game.
What's up bro this is charmi. Can I upload and translate this on my channel with my runes? This team worked really good but I just added some. plz reply thanx :>
sure of course you can, just mention me ^.^
Would 2x astar and 3 inugamis work aswell?
probably. but making 2 astars just for nb12 is a bit overdone maybe
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hopefully someone able to answer my question. to make this safe do they all have to have skill ups?
its not a must but its always recommended
@@Seiishizo what would you guess the run time be without skill ups?
@@ngocquan2294 too many factors i cant tell that. its a thing of trial and error I guess.
May I ask if this is better than 3 Fire Inu team?
Its more consistent yes.
@@Seiishizo Thank you for answering. I am glad I saw this video, I was about to start working on my fire inus.
youre getting legend runes left right and center.. damn
may i see your icaru and raoq rune
what about lanette?
option but less dmg
with my bad runes it was easier to bail raoq and go astar (lead) + 3x icaru. 100% safe , astar on vamp 1min runs no shield runes. (F3/C1 account runes)
how do you get 200 max energy?
daily pack 1
Why Senpai You Rekt Me on SL😓
My astar cant survive due to golem reflect damage
vampire
3 icaru and astar is'nt better?
raoq is good for cleanup. so no without its worse.
How to get 2 homunculus
can't
hey dude try dark vampire for lead. and 2 raoq+ 2 icaru
isn't faster cus waves are not always cleared
Sir can ypu help me lane up for 2a inu level 5?
I'm not sure what you are asking but I think its the team for 2a inu floor 5.
try fran verd loren plus inu. or remove fran for tetra
why did you decide to build icarus fast (not 50 8 8)?
cus the runes fit this and I didnt optimize it for db12 yet
The attack order matter?
Icaru's first, then raoq for cleanup. Yes
And preferably at the boss astar moving first (due to low hp), and astar moving last in wave 1 and 3
any astar replacement?
in this team , not really. lapis could but is a lot weaker
@@Seiishizo would lannet work maybe?
@@roi123215 could but a lot weaker base stats
@@Seiishizo well i can just hope to get astar then lol
3 icaru 2 raoq works too ?
could but astar puts units in a nice spot for raoq to clear
I clicked on the vid because I deruned astar after my second NB10 became obsolete due to twins...
Try rushen 3icaru light griffon.26s best
not a stable avg
Magic mike hmmmmm
7:56 lolol
"my icarus are not good whatsoever" might wanna rephrase that to "my icarus are not good at all for the ULTRA ABSOLUTE endgame player".
Try the 2SA light griffon
derps alot
don't have her yet or him xD
@@Seiishizo try him and u will think me later
My team is vapire lord (lead) loren 2 raoq and him avg 1min
Over 1000 revresh no fail yet
@@0pl His team is also 100% at like 40sec avg lol so u want him to slow down his teams?
@@pattyrick3892 bro i mean the light griffon instead of astar my team is 1min wth shamman how about his team with shamman
Try wind chicken and ull get a sub
passive dont work on teamup
@@Seiishizo ty for letting me know
Lanett ain't bad, but she have such shitty stats it's pretty sad
This NFK Arena ads are so Cringy xD
i can't choose the ads :
@@Seiishizo I know
Dan risa porque los pros dicen team super safe 30 segundos, pero claro como no va ser safe y con ta poco tiempo si tienen tremendas runas - _-
Your tips are prety much always useless for normal players, my Astair will kill himself always on the waves and that it.
add vampire... lol