@@BillsGo1 Definitely trending down due to injuries. But yeah, regardless of the reason, it's never good to trend down at the end of the season. The hope is that those injured players get healthy in time for the playoffs.
@RageDaug to be fair, they gave up 14 pts before a garbage time TD to NE, got 3 turnovers, 1 witch resulted in a guaranteed FG, and the other recovered in the End zone for a TD. The 4 games prior to that, they played SF, LAR, & Det, 3 of the top offenses in the League (especially with the Rams being healthy), and KC as the 4th team. That's 4 straight games against quality opponents, top rated offenses, and while dealing with injuries. So as long as we get healthy we will be more battle tested than a lot of other defenses in the playoffs.
I love your perspective and optimism. I don;t want to be a downer but I call it the way I see it. What the Bills defense lacks is toughness and attitude. The defense starts slow every week and lacks urgency out of the gate. Leadership issue? Readiness issue? Teams take on the personality of their coaches. I see one win Vs the 7 seed and a loss to the Ravens at home. Then McDermott, Beane and Babich will draw up plans for 2025 to do the same thing over and over again with its soft, bend don't break defense. Some folks haver been around here long enough to know the McDermott script.@@BillyBuffalo354
To be honest, if josh wins MVP people will be pissed and might even disrespect him even more if he does since it was "undeserving." However, lamar is the player in the NFL I despise the most that has benefitted so much from the team around him. Its absurd to call him "Most Valuable"
LamarRB was gifted the absolute worst mist undeserving mvP in the history of the NFL twice, thanks to his defense.. Allens D sux & they still have 12 wins, his career numbers also dwarf LamarRB's
It's going to be a tough postseason go for the Bills. Provided they win in the wc, the red-hot Ravens w LJ/King Henry in a rematch at home followed by the ultimate test vs a rested Chiefs club in KC. Hoo, brother...
The Bills are still gonna get smoked in the playoffs, which I wish wasn’t true. But the 3rd down defense is the worst I’ve ever seen from the Bills, and I’m 35. Even in the drought years, it was never this terrible. And people can say I’m just focusing on one stat. But it’s literally the stat, that by far, correlates the most with winning and losing, especially in the playoffs, when the offenses get evened out. Not that the media cares, the way they ignore this number to give the fan base false hope is starting to become diabolical. If it’s not fixed, like now, then there’s pretty much no hope at a Superbowl. Babich is so reliant on turnovers, and when they don’t happen multiple times a game, the defense turns into a joke. And because of it I don’t think Babich should be retained next year, because it’s on him. I’d be fine bringing him back if there was progress, but if the New England game showed anything, it was that this defense is actually going backwards. He’s got at least 3 more games to prove he’s worth keeping, I really hope he shows us he’s capable. Because as of right now, the combo of the defensive line being terrible every week, and 3rd down defense getting worse week after week, looks Terrible on Babich. And before people talk about the talent issue, it’s the same D-line as last year, except Miller is actually significantly better this year. And I get Babich is young and needs time to learn. But man that’s not fair to anyone else on the team. Why should guys like Josh and Deion, and Knox have to wait? Just because Babich might figure it out, eventually. That’s not what’s best for the team. The best thing for the team would to bring in an actual already established D-coordinator. But hey, it’s all null and void if Babich can get it figured out. Which I really hope it does, a superbowl counts on it. And ultimately him taking a big step, right now is best for everyone. But I got to see it before I’ll believe it.
How certain are we that babich is actually calling the DEF? Locked on believes McDermott is actually calling them. Which makes sense if you’re looking for another scapegoat when he chokes again in the playoffs.
Beane’s and McDermotts defensive line drafting has been underwhelming and the defense is to small lacks athletic ability and physical toughness. The Bills defense has been overwhelmed and destroyed in the playoffs.
The biggest issue I have with the MVP debate is that it’s the SAME EXACT people who argued for Lamar last year that are arguing for him this year. Which can ONLY mean those people are now, undeniably changing the criteria for what the MVP is. And they are doing it ONLY to get there guy the award. I also believe that allot of people have one other big issue with Allen, but I’m not gonna say what it is, because it should be irrelevant.
The Tennessee Titans in 2020 were 10-5 with Derrick Henry and Ryan Tannahill. If Lamar is actually having as “historic” of a season as they are trying to tell us, they would be winning more. Allen has pulled off the impossible and won more games with half the roster. This MVP debate shouldn’t be as close as it is imo.
If Josh doesn't give a concerted effort to win the MVP in the next 2 games he won't get one. Mcdermott ruins games playing to safe I believe changing the mindset to be aggressive every week to win and play well matters more based on the past of this team.
McDermott isn't calling the plays. When McD called defense, they were more aggressive. I believe we've seen more of McD influence in the last couple games when Babich started getting more aggressive. And that holds even more true to the Offensive play calls. McD isn't telling Brady what play to call.
The NFL should go back to 6 playoff teams per conference and give back the bye week to the # 2 seed in the AFC & NFC which they took away in 2020 when the NFL added a 7th playoff team. The # 2 playoff seed has NO business playing in a Wild-Card game. During the Tom Brady/Bill Belichick era in New England from 2000 to 2019, the Patriots were the AFC's # 2 playoff seed 7 times, had a first round playoff bye each time and won their first playoff game.
Lets focus on this week, treat this game as a must win, if the team is serious then you cant let the Jets beat you in Buffalo (no disrespect to the Jets), go big and win this game and then you take week 18 to figure some small things out. Greetings from Mexico.
Allen and Jackson are made from the same cut of fabric… both are equally great… 👍🏽 but like last season the guy with the best record get away with it… this year is Allen for sure… look the bills beat the best to teams of each conference but not Lamar but Lamar loses to the chiefs so that’s the difference and I don’t even write about the differences of players each have
"Get out there and do your business...." That's funny Sal. This defense sleepwalks thought the first drive each and every week. Sometimes it lasts through the first quarter like it did Vs NE. Or an entire half like it did Vs the Texans. Or an entire game like it did Vs the Rams. Hoping for someone to step up and get this defense ready from snap 1.
Defense looking like crap just in time for when it really counts. Bills need to play everybody, and beat the Jets, and take week 18 off. If they lose to the Jets, the Bills will be one and done anyway. The pressure starts NOW! We'll all learn what team we have this weekend .
I don't know about that being a Bills fan for over 30 years I've seen some funny things not only is JA going to win the MVP but he's going to beat Lamar once again at home and then dethrone KC to reach the SB
Can’t stop the run? Psh, maybe Baltimore should worry about stopping Josh Allen! It’s Buffalo, it’s our house, and anything can happen. Long day for them instead-Go Bills!
Josh Allen is great. Lamar Jackson is great. Where did winning the MVP get Lamar last year? It's about getting to the Superbowl and winning. I believe that's what Josh is focused on. The Bill's keep winning and every game someone different steps up to get the job done. That's what team work is all about. There's no I in team. Go Bills!!!!!
To be fair to Bills' Mafia, I haven't heard the trashing going both ways. I believe most of Bills Mafia believes Lamar is #2 for MVP. We aren't trashing him, or hating him, we are just explaining why Josh is more valuable. On the other side, I have heard a lot of, "Allen sucks!" talk from Lamar supporting fans. So maybe it's anecdotal, but like I said, I think the QB trashing is primarily going one direction.
It's so weak and lame to try to pick and choose who the Buffalo Bills should play in the playoffs if you're a Superbowl championship caliber team it shouldn't matter who you play in the playoffs SMH GO BILLS
The Chiefs are getting a cake walk this year,the only team that can knock off the chiefs is buffalo.No way is Baltimore going into Arrowhead and beating Kansas City.The chiefs eent into Baltimore last year and beat up the Ravens and Lamar looked sup-par.If you hate the chiefs, buffalo is the only shot
LamarRB is the worst statistical playoff qB in league history, no reason to think he'll magically become good until it happens, he gets away with 8 man boxes cuz of Henry & his WRs cuz of that have a 70% separation rate which leads the league by a lot, Henry is making it easy for him but I don't think they beat Buff or kC
But Lamar losing to the Raiders and the Browns in the same season in great weather that just gets discarded as though it didn’t happen. And there are probably medium members who will do that, but if that’s the case, they shouldn’t have a vote because they’re a complete moron but if you ever hear some of these guys talk, holy shit.
We all know how valuable Josh is. I don't care who has better numbers. I want to see Josh with a Lombardi in one arm and the SB MVP in the other.
Me too
Don't care about the MVP discussion. Priority is winning SB.
Why not both?
I want allen to add a mvp to his resume
Lamar getting the MVP is the Raven's fan's Superbowl. Just give the baby their bottle. The Bills are focused on a championship.
Maybe Josh can win the Superbowl MVP
I'm sure Josh is in complete agreement with you! I'm sure he would like to win it, but he won't be concerned with it.
The MVP race has become a popularity contest of QB's.
So nice to see a Bills podcast that doesn’t trash Lamar. Respect. 💜🖤
I am sure #17 would rather have that trophy 🏆 than the MVP. Would be nice to get both, but, i am still worried about our "D" going into the playoffs 🤔
Allen is having a great season. Lamar is having a HISTORIC SEASON.
Defense is trending the wrong way yet again in crunch time :/
Yep, spot on, although we did have some injuries...
@@BillsGo1 Definitely trending down due to injuries. But yeah, regardless of the reason, it's never good to trend down at the end of the season. The hope is that those injured players get healthy in time for the playoffs.
@RageDaug to be fair, they gave up 14 pts before a garbage time TD to NE, got 3 turnovers, 1 witch resulted in a guaranteed FG, and the other recovered in the End zone for a TD. The 4 games prior to that, they played SF, LAR, & Det, 3 of the top offenses in the League (especially with the Rams being healthy), and KC as the 4th team. That's 4 straight games against quality opponents, top rated offenses, and while dealing with injuries. So as long as we get healthy we will be more battle tested than a lot of other defenses in the playoffs.
I love your perspective and optimism. I don;t want to be a downer but I call it the way I see it. What the Bills defense lacks is toughness and attitude. The defense starts slow every week and lacks urgency out of the gate. Leadership issue? Readiness issue? Teams take on the personality of their coaches. I see one win Vs the 7 seed and a loss to the Ravens at home. Then McDermott, Beane and Babich will draw up plans for 2025 to do the same thing over and over again with its soft, bend don't break defense. Some folks haver been around here long enough to know the McDermott script.@@BillyBuffalo354
It's Mcd getting out coached again with his awful zone d
To be honest, if josh wins MVP people will be pissed and might even disrespect him even more if he does since it was "undeserving." However, lamar is the player in the NFL I despise the most that has benefitted so much from the team around him. Its absurd to call him "Most Valuable"
They called him a running back now he’s leading in touchdowns
I completely agree…
LamarRB was gifted the absolute worst mist undeserving mvP in the history of the NFL twice, thanks to his defense.. Allens D sux & they still have 12 wins, his career numbers also dwarf LamarRB's
It's going to be a tough postseason go for the Bills. Provided they win in the wc, the red-hot Ravens w LJ/King Henry in a rematch at home followed by the ultimate test vs a rested Chiefs club in KC. Hoo, brother...
Don't have the defense for it & scoring 30+ in the playoffs is no easy task
The Bills are still gonna get smoked in the playoffs, which I wish wasn’t true. But the 3rd down defense is the worst I’ve ever seen from the Bills, and I’m 35. Even in the drought years, it was never this terrible. And people can say I’m just focusing on one stat. But it’s literally the stat, that by far, correlates the most with winning and losing, especially in the playoffs, when the offenses get evened out. Not that the media cares, the way they ignore this number to give the fan base false hope is starting to become diabolical. If it’s not fixed, like now, then there’s pretty much no hope at a Superbowl. Babich is so reliant on turnovers, and when they don’t happen multiple times a game, the defense turns into a joke. And because of it I don’t think Babich should be retained next year, because it’s on him. I’d be fine bringing him back if there was progress, but if the New England game showed anything, it was that this defense is actually going backwards. He’s got at least 3 more games to prove he’s worth keeping, I really hope he shows us he’s capable. Because as of right now, the combo of the defensive line being terrible every week, and 3rd down defense getting worse week after week, looks Terrible on Babich. And before people talk about the talent issue, it’s the same D-line as last year, except Miller is actually significantly better this year.
And I get Babich is young and needs time to learn. But man that’s not fair to anyone else on the team. Why should guys like Josh and Deion, and Knox have to wait? Just because Babich might figure it out, eventually. That’s not what’s best for the team. The best thing for the team would to bring in an actual already established D-coordinator.
But hey, it’s all null and void if Babich can get it figured out. Which I really hope it does, a superbowl counts on it. And ultimately him taking a big step, right now is best for everyone. But I got to see it before I’ll believe it.
How certain are we that babich is actually calling the DEF? Locked on believes McDermott is actually calling them. Which makes sense if you’re looking for another scapegoat when he chokes again in the playoffs.
Beane’s and McDermotts defensive line drafting has been underwhelming and the defense is to small lacks athletic ability and physical toughness. The Bills defense has been overwhelmed and destroyed in the playoffs.
The biggest issue I have with the MVP debate is that it’s the SAME EXACT people who argued for Lamar last year that are arguing for him this year. Which can ONLY mean those people are now, undeniably changing the criteria for what the MVP is. And they are doing it ONLY to get there guy the award. I also believe that allot of people have one other big issue with Allen, but I’m not gonna say what it is, because it should be irrelevant.
Complete goal post moving hypocrites.
We’ll know why they have a problem with Josh. Wink, wink. Pretty messed up society!
@@Rob_G716 why?
A Bills win on Sunday with Josh Allen putting up great stats will help his chances of winning the MVP. GO BILLS!!
McDermott will have to feed Allen easy completions and target Amari to wrap up MVP like Harbough did with Lamar vs the Giants.
McDermott is not nearly as clever nor intelligent as harbaugh
Good info 👍
Go Bills 💙🏈♥️🦬😊
The Tennessee Titans in 2020 were 10-5 with Derrick Henry and Ryan Tannahill. If Lamar is actually having as “historic” of a season as they are trying to tell us, they would be winning more. Allen has pulled off the impossible and won more games with half the roster. This MVP debate shouldn’t be as close as it is imo.
If Josh doesn't give a concerted effort to win the MVP in the next 2 games he won't get one. Mcdermott ruins games playing to safe I believe changing the mindset to be aggressive every week to win and play well matters more based on the past of this team.
Unfortunately, I don’t give Josh a snowballs chance in hell to MVP. It pisses me off 🤬
McDermott isn't calling the plays. When McD called defense, they were more aggressive. I believe we've seen more of McD influence in the last couple games when Babich started getting more aggressive.
And that holds even more true to the Offensive play calls. McD isn't telling Brady what play to call.
Hi I agree MVP is wonderful but I want to see my buffalo bills when the Superbowl
GO BILLS!
The NFL should go back to 6 playoff teams per conference and give back the bye week to the # 2 seed in the AFC & NFC which they took away in 2020 when the NFL added a 7th playoff team.
The # 2 playoff seed has NO business playing in a Wild-Card game. During the Tom Brady/Bill Belichick era in New England from 2000 to 2019, the Patriots were the AFC's # 2 playoff seed 7 times, had a first round playoff bye each time and won their first playoff game.
They'd go to 8 teams before they'd go to back to 6.
Honestly there shouldn’t be any playoff bye weeks.
Broncos, Ravens - that’s when we lose.
All the Execs voted for Josh. He's a cinch for MVP! Am not worried.
Lets focus on this week, treat this game as a must win, if the team is serious then you cant let the Jets beat you in Buffalo (no disrespect to the Jets), go big and win this game and then you take week 18 to figure some small things out. Greetings from Mexico.
Allen and Jackson are made from the same cut of fabric… both are equally great… 👍🏽 but like last season the guy with the best record get away with it… this year is Allen for sure… look the bills beat the best to teams of each conference but not Lamar but Lamar loses to the chiefs so that’s the difference and I don’t even write about the differences of players each have
LaMar hate has been there since day 1 to see who he is now leading in ever category is insane
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"Get out there and do your business...." That's funny Sal. This defense sleepwalks thought the first drive each and every week. Sometimes it lasts through the first quarter like it did Vs NE. Or an entire half like it did Vs the Texans. Or an entire game like it did Vs the Rams. Hoping for someone to step up and get this defense ready from snap 1.
Why don't we talk about who's most valuable team? Last I checked, it's a team sport!
Defense looking like crap just in time for when it really counts. Bills need to play everybody, and beat the Jets, and take week 18 off. If they lose to the Jets, the Bills will be one and done anyway. The pressure starts NOW! We'll all learn what team we have this weekend .
Sal is Allen's arms going to be ok for golfing😅 on January,
Bills are f’d!! No way they Beat Baltimore inBuffalo!! Can’t stop the run… I’m a Bills fan -it’ll be a long day imo! Go Bills
I don't know about that being a Bills fan for over 30 years I've seen some funny things not only is JA going to win the MVP but he's going to beat Lamar once again at home and then dethrone KC to reach the SB
Can’t stop the run? Psh, maybe Baltimore should worry about stopping Josh Allen! It’s Buffalo, it’s our house, and anything can happen. Long day for them instead-Go Bills!
Josh Allen is great. Lamar Jackson is great. Where did winning the MVP get Lamar last year? It's about getting to the Superbowl and winning. I believe that's what Josh is focused on. The Bill's keep winning and every game someone different steps up to get the job done. That's what team work is all about. There's no I in team. Go Bills!!!!!
To be fair to Bills' Mafia, I haven't heard the trashing going both ways. I believe most of Bills Mafia believes Lamar is #2 for MVP. We aren't trashing him, or hating him, we are just explaining why Josh is more valuable.
On the other side, I have heard a lot of, "Allen sucks!" talk from Lamar supporting fans. So maybe it's anecdotal, but like I said, I think the QB trashing is primarily going one direction.
Put the phone down. So disrespectful when doing these. You can’t wait the 10-15 mins after? So cringy.
not "everyone" is doing that...."some" people do that...
Who cares who wins MVP...win the Superbowl ...football is a team sport.
10:27 the raiders wohld love to play the ravens
It's so weak and lame to try to pick and choose who the Buffalo Bills should play in the playoffs if you're a Superbowl championship caliber team it shouldn't matter who you play in the playoffs SMH GO BILLS
The BS ends around the 2:50 mark...stop wasting your viewer's time w/stupid stupidity!
Hope not winning MVP fuels him to win the SB and prove all wrong
Josh will not get the MVP - I trust it will give the entire team more drive to finally beat the Chiefs and win a Super Bowl!
The Chiefs are getting a cake walk this year,the only team that can knock off the chiefs is buffalo.No way is Baltimore going into Arrowhead and beating Kansas City.The chiefs eent into Baltimore last year and beat up the Ravens and Lamar looked sup-par.If you hate the chiefs, buffalo is the only shot
LamarRB is the worst statistical playoff qB in league history, no reason to think he'll magically become good until it happens, he gets away with 8 man boxes cuz of Henry & his WRs cuz of that have a 70% separation rate which leads the league by a lot, Henry is making it easy for him but I don't think they beat Buff or kC
Josh probably lost MVP after that game
But Lamar losing to the Raiders and the Browns in the same season in great weather that just gets discarded as though it didn’t happen. And there are probably medium members who will do that, but if that’s the case, they shouldn’t have a vote because they’re a complete moron but if you ever hear some of these guys talk, holy shit.
Josh isn’t black so MVP goes to Lamar!
So he lost it by still winning vs pats and didn't win by beating kc and Detroit if that's the case they waste going to give it to him anyway
@@johnhofer7281exactly just like last year they look for any reason to give it to someone else first it was Barkley
@@johnhofer7281pls do not play that card, thx
Chargers can beat BAL even though they lost this year. CJ Stroud was awful yesterday and Herbert is a far better QB.
Be Foreal lol that’s not happening
Bills will beat the Jets then get to relax Week 18.
Who cares about the MVP? It's such a silly award. Yet you spent so much time talking about it,,,,why?
Josh will never win anything. No Super Bowl. No AFC Championship. No MVP. Non throwing 9 for 30 scrub bum. Media concoction. Nothing more.
Lamar may break the all-time passing rating. His 121.6 passing rating is second all time in NFL HISTORY!