Let me know in the comments below which Commanders from Streets of New Capenna or Battle for Baldur's gate you are most excited about and want to see if future polls!
Baldurs Gate got so many awesome dragons, so I'm hoping to see some of them in your polls. Especially want to see how you'd build a deck for Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm (Temur dragon that copies each dragon you play). But honestly, there's so many cool options in this new set with all the cheap commanders with backgrounds as well, looking forward to getting some ideas from your videos.
For anyone still looking at this commander, there is a budget sidegrade for phyrexian reclamation in the new sets called Vat of rebirth, its a great alternative and easier to find. Cheers!
It's actually better in this deck than phyrexian reclamation as it puts the creature onto the battlefield instead of your hand and your commander makes treasures which using also put counters on your vat. Actually using the 3 treasures your commander makes and sac a creature will allow you to use vat to reanimate every turn creating a glorious loop. I actually wouldn't recommend phyrexian reclamation in this deck anyway because a lot of your creatures are going to be more manageable intensive
I finally got the cards for this together and tried it at my LGS's usual Sunday Commander games. I played 5 games, and won four of them. This thing is absolutely cracked for a budget deck.
It's funny, last night I googled for a budget deck list for Ziatora and bought this deck without realizing you are the one who made it. Love I found this video today on it. Can't wait to play it.
EXCELLENT video. Clear graphics, nice backgrounds that aren't distracting, no overbearing music, no wasted time on long narrations or filler phrases (for example, some people will say something like "so um, yeah, this is a really really good card in with this commander" after every card). Deck is well-designed and within a good budget. Bravo.
I have checked all of your deck techs and I can’t seem to choose which one to build because they are ALL amazing for the budget you give yourself! Kudos! For this deck, I do have a Grave Pact lying around. 😊
Having made this deck myself I highly recommend Marionette Master, hitting an opponent for 4 whenever you spend a treasure, and Phyrexian Soulgorger just being an 8/8 for 3. Also Professional Face-Breaker being extra ramp as well as letting you trade treasures for cards.
@@ellefent3649 I don't run the lands matter cards besides rhino beetles, so I cut wayfarer's bauble for elves of deep shadow, fertilid for sol ring, and burnished hart for elvish mystic to help make sure something is on board before ziatora. I swapped budoka gardener to solemn simulacrum because gardener is super hard to keep alive. I also upgraded from rampant growth to nature's lore. Elf/ring -> cultivate -> 5 mana creature -> ziatora is a solid line that happens pretty often Replace ram through and master's rebuke with bedevil and putrefy. I swapped two one mana undying cards and ruthless technomancer for palace siege, dawn of the dead, and prowling geistcatcher (who's saved me from many a board wipe) for more repeatable recursion. You can also go whip of erebos if you have it it's real mean with how much damage you do and I routinely end games with 70+ life. I cut momentous fall for rishkar's expertise for the free creature cast
Glad you enjoyed it! I can certainly see Embodiment of Agonies being a decent overstated beat-stick once we've gotten a few bodies into the bin (since we do have a decent selection on different CMC combination of creatures in this build). Good suggestion!
I used your decklist as a base for a deck for my friend and it's pretty good. Maybe it could use some haste enablers and slightly more ramp/mana fixing in my opinion but otherwise great job!
Glad you enjoyed it! I can certainly see the argument for tweaking the ramp and haste package to allow our big creatures to enter play and swing in faster before we fling them.
This decklist seems great, I just pulled a foil stamped version of ziatora yesterday so I think I might make it. Thanks for the content I loved your eruth deck too.
Don't let the other cards hear you say that! Seriously though, I very much like the consistency that Burnished Hart provides to a lot of builds as colorless land ramp (which colors outside of green have a hard time accessing and green has to play lots of $ for the better options) which is why I recommend it so much. Glad you enjoyed the video as well!
Rules Question: What happens when you double the power of a star/star creature. Say for something that scales from your lands. e.g. Rubblehulk: If you attempt to double it's power, does it scale back to the number of lands you control or does it actually double?
All great power requires sacrifice... who knows how much of my time I will sacrifice in enjoyment of this amazing build? All I know is that it will be worth it. Amazing video as always! Now since there's no vote to be had for now, guess I will temporarily replace it with my extremely detailed evaluation on the soon to be upgraded precon - Cthulhu Fhtagn out of 10. Day 292 of waiting for Grazzet's face reveal. Speaking of sacrifice, have you played Inscryption? It's pretty damn good.
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the support as always! I haven't had a chance to play it myself but I've seen a few playthroughs for it - it looks pretty solid as a tactical card game.
Glad you enjoyed the build! No plans for merch at the moment, but hopefully eventually - going to have to commission some are and such though so it could take some time and resources!
This commander is basically Brion Stoutarm but in a significantly better color combination and with considerably better payoff for her ability, and she can swing as well as fling.
Great deck and vidi! Does this commander deck can remain strong if the enemy focus the commander? May it silly question but (I am a beginner :D and) after 2-3 removal the summoning cost will be huge for Ziatora.
Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar might be a little slow because it's ability puts itself back to hand, but I think it would still be good here I also really like Sneak Attack as an upgrade for the deck
Yeah, recursion is "worst" then reanimation in most cases but since Multanti is still going to be huge and we should have more than enough treasures to help cast him, he still feel good in the build! Sneak attack is also a solid option to cheat out our higher CMC creatures if we want to immediate damage and fling. Good suggestion!
Awesome build man! Looking forward to getting these, do you have any plans to upload an upgrade in case we're willing to spend a bit more cash? Love your channel btw i just discovered it
Firstly, welcome to the channel! Secondly, regarding revisiting old build - you're not the first person to ask for this and I would like to do so at some point, but sadly right now I simply don't have the time. Maybe if this channel grows enough I can tackle more stuff like this though, so we'll have to see.
Welcome and thanks for joining the channel! Hopefully the polls after the precons are covered will have plenty of Brokers or cover Gorion, Wise Mentor from BFBG to sate your hunger for Bant builds!
Its not a bad addition by any means - more treasure generation and ways to turn it into impulse draw is a great form of utility and would be a solid entry to the build!
Thanks for making this deck! I have already bought two of your previous deck techs (Tovolar and Killian) and was very happy with them! I will now save up some money to buy this one as well, looks really cool, I got Mikaeus, the Unhallowed in a booster so will definitely add him to the deck, who do you recommend to take out for him? Keep up the great work!
Glad to hear you enjoyed this build and have been having fun with some of my previous ones! For Mikaeus, I would say swapping out Yargle, Glutton of Urborg would be a safe bet - since he's going to give us a lot more value in the long run.
Captain N'ghathrod and Umbris do have some overlap and with some new horrors that came with the deck that may certainly be the case. Glad you enjoyed this weeks build!
This issue here is that Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest is a better include in a deck that can make a wider baordstate than this, since this build tends to not have a big big board and creatures (outside of Ziatora herself) tend to not stick around for too long anyway. Still, I would say that it is not a bad include, since it is a sac payoff after all - so run it if you feel so inclined!
I love the deck tech and can’t wait to build it, but I do have a question. Would all the “until end of turn” effects end before creatures could be sacrificed to Ziatora? Edit: I looked it up, there’s beginning of end step and then cleanup. You can sac creatures during the beginning and the “until end of turn” effects don’t end until the cleanup phase.
Exactly - sorry for the late response but yeah, most if not all "power doubling" effects don't bleed off until the turn actually ends during/after cleanup, so it works fine with Ziatora and other fling effects!
How long does it take you from conception to finish to brew a deck? It takes me weeks to finish a deck, between work and life I have small windows to brew. I think about the deck in brewing all the time but when it comes time to brew I get overwhelmed by options and idea shifts. I’m just curious how long it takes you to brew?
Also I’d love love love to see your take on the background commander of the new horror deck! I’m gonna be making a love craft inspires horror clue deck with it and the background .
Usually, the core concept can takes a day and refining it usually takes a another day or 2 (sometimes even more depending how the deck performs in testing). Hope that helps!
@@GrazzetMTG will be giving your deck a try soon enough, lots of cards that look too fun not to. Also going to be trying out the orshov vehicles deck that im super excited to try out, when I first saw that commander I dismissed it too fast, your video made me reconsider and try her out!
Yeah, Jund got a grand slam this time around with 4 commanders (including Henzie from the precon upgrade) being covered this time around! Its certainly a crowd favorite in this set!
Let me know in the comments below which Commanders from Streets of New Capenna or Battle for Baldur's gate you are most excited about and want to see if future polls!
Baldurs Gate got so many awesome dragons, so I'm hoping to see some of them in your polls. Especially want to see how you'd build a deck for Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm (Temur dragon that copies each dragon you play).
But honestly, there's so many cool options in this new set with all the cheap commanders with backgrounds as well, looking forward to getting some ideas from your videos.
@@3ndlessL00p There are quite a number of solid dragons here, so there is a good chance that a number of them will make the polls - so stay tuned!
One of my favorites from Baulders gate is Mazzy! She would be a cool budget build I think
I'd love to see what background and which direction you'd take Wyll, Blade of Frontiers!
Honestly, dealers choice! Everything you put out is S tier.
For anyone still looking at this commander, there is a budget sidegrade for phyrexian reclamation in the new sets called Vat of rebirth, its a great alternative and easier to find. Cheers!
It's actually better in this deck than phyrexian reclamation as it puts the creature onto the battlefield instead of your hand and your commander makes treasures which using also put counters on your vat. Actually using the 3 treasures your commander makes and sac a creature will allow you to use vat to reanimate every turn creating a glorious loop. I actually wouldn't recommend phyrexian reclamation in this deck anyway because a lot of your creatures are going to be more manageable intensive
I finally got the cards for this together and tried it at my LGS's usual Sunday Commander games.
I played 5 games, and won four of them. This thing is absolutely cracked for a budget deck.
Happy to hear that the build has worked well for you!
It's funny, last night I googled for a budget deck list for Ziatora and bought this deck without realizing you are the one who made it. Love I found this video today on it. Can't wait to play it.
Funny how that works! Either way, I hope it works out well for you!
EXCELLENT video. Clear graphics, nice backgrounds that aren't distracting, no overbearing music, no wasted time on long narrations or filler phrases (for example, some people will say something like "so um, yeah, this is a really really good card in with this commander" after every card). Deck is well-designed and within a good budget. Bravo.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
I have checked all of your deck techs and I can’t seem to choose which one to build because they are ALL amazing for the budget you give yourself! Kudos!
For this deck, I do have a Grave Pact lying around. 😊
Glad to hear you're enjoying them! Being spoiled for choice is a good problem to have!
I got a lot of inspiration from this deck tech and the deck I’ve been playing with Ziatora has been winning quite often
Happy to hear that you were able to use this build to build your own version and that its been working well for you!
Having made this deck myself I highly recommend Marionette Master, hitting an opponent for 4 whenever you spend a treasure, and Phyrexian Soulgorger just being an 8/8 for 3. Also Professional Face-Breaker being extra ramp as well as letting you trade treasures for cards.
Considering building this deck. Do you have suggestions for cuts?
@@ellefent3649 I don't run the lands matter cards besides rhino beetles, so I cut wayfarer's bauble for elves of deep shadow, fertilid for sol ring, and burnished hart for elvish mystic to help make sure something is on board before ziatora. I swapped budoka gardener to solemn simulacrum because gardener is super hard to keep alive. I also upgraded from rampant growth to nature's lore.
Elf/ring -> cultivate -> 5 mana creature -> ziatora is a solid line that happens pretty often
Replace ram through and master's rebuke with bedevil and putrefy.
I swapped two one mana undying cards and ruthless technomancer for palace siege, dawn of the dead, and prowling geistcatcher (who's saved me from many a board wipe) for more repeatable recursion. You can also go whip of erebos if you have it it's real mean with how much damage you do and I routinely end games with 70+ life.
I cut momentous fall for rishkar's expertise for the free creature cast
great idea for a deck, good job
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love the list, happy to see Multani, Yavimayas avatar getting love, I also love embodiment of agonies as an undercosted beater
Glad you enjoyed it!
I can certainly see Embodiment of Agonies being a decent overstated beat-stick once we've gotten a few bodies into the bin (since we do have a decent selection on different CMC combination of creatures in this build). Good suggestion!
Earned a new sub. Nice and to the point of the deck. Not a ton of fluff. Thank you!
Thanks for the sub and glad to hear you enjoyed the content!
Thank you, this video is amazing
I used your decklist as a base for a deck for my friend and it's pretty good. Maybe it could use some haste enablers and slightly more ramp/mana fixing in my opinion but otherwise great job!
Glad you enjoyed it! I can certainly see the argument for tweaking the ramp and haste package to allow our big creatures to enter play and swing in faster before we fling them.
@@GrazzetMTG Definitely, I am using your list as an inspiration, and I am also looking for a slot or two for budget friendly tutors/grave hate.
Just got a new subscriber! Keep up the good work!💪
Welcome board and will do!
💯 love it. Can’t wait to get my cards in now!
Happy to hear you enjoyed the build!
as always, awesome video :D i learn more and more about mtg and my decks everyday !
Happy to her the content is helping you become a better deck builder yourself!
@@GrazzetMTG next deck me building and from scratch, the reaper king
This decklist seems great, I just pulled a foil stamped version of ziatora yesterday so I think I might make it. Thanks for the content I loved your eruth deck too.
Glad you think so and happy to hear your enjoying the Eruth build!
Burnish Hart... is in almost every deck you make. Favorite card?
Works great with Teasa! Great video. Keep it up
Don't let the other cards hear you say that! Seriously though, I very much like the consistency that Burnished Hart provides to a lot of builds as colorless land ramp (which colors outside of green have a hard time accessing and green has to play lots of $ for the better options) which is why I recommend it so much.
Glad you enjoyed the video as well!
Rules Question: What happens when you double the power of a star/star creature. Say for something that scales from your lands. e.g. Rubblehulk: If you attempt to double it's power, does it scale back to the number of lands you control or does it actually double?
It doubles
All great power requires sacrifice... who knows how much of my time I will sacrifice in enjoyment of this amazing build? All I know is that it will be worth it. Amazing video as always!
Now since there's no vote to be had for now, guess I will temporarily replace it with my extremely detailed evaluation on the soon to be upgraded precon - Cthulhu Fhtagn out of 10.
Day 292 of waiting for Grazzet's face reveal. Speaking of sacrifice, have you played Inscryption? It's pretty damn good.
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the support as always!
I haven't had a chance to play it myself but I've seen a few playthroughs for it - it looks pretty solid as a tactical card game.
Greate build, as always!
Glad you think so!
Very nice deck! Thanks and good job! Any plans for merch? I’d love to grab a play mat supporting your channel!
Glad you enjoyed the build! No plans for merch at the moment, but hopefully eventually - going to have to commission some are and such though so it could take some time and resources!
This commander is basically Brion Stoutarm but in a significantly better color combination and with considerably better payoff for her ability, and she can swing as well as fling.
woah. currently arranging a quintorius deck. I'll listen to this while making a deck.
Sounds good and good luck with your build!
@@GrazzetMTG thanks. The list itself is based on the one you made. Just a few tweaks here and there. Have good day/night grazzet.
Great deck and vidi! Does this commander deck can remain strong if the enemy focus the commander? May it silly question but (I am a beginner :D and) after 2-3 removal the summoning cost will be huge for Ziatora.
Love it
Nice deck tech!
Glad you think so!
Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar might be a little slow because it's ability puts itself back to hand, but I think it would still be good here
I also really like Sneak Attack as an upgrade for the deck
Yeah, recursion is "worst" then reanimation in most cases but since Multanti is still going to be huge and we should have more than enough treasures to help cast him, he still feel good in the build!
Sneak attack is also a solid option to cheat out our higher CMC creatures if we want to immediate damage and fling.
Good suggestion!
Awesome build man! Looking forward to getting these, do you have any plans to upload an upgrade in case we're willing to spend a bit more cash? Love your channel btw i just discovered it
Firstly, welcome to the channel!
Secondly, regarding revisiting old build - you're not the first person to ask for this and I would like to do so at some point, but sadly right now I simply don't have the time. Maybe if this channel grows enough I can tackle more stuff like this though, so we'll have to see.
just subbed! I hope to see a bant themed deck in the future.
Welcome and thanks for joining the channel! Hopefully the polls after the precons are covered will have plenty of Brokers or cover Gorion, Wise Mentor from BFBG to sate your hunger for Bant builds!
@@GrazzetMTG indeed!
Maybe I'm just unoriginal, but you always seem to cover the exact commanders I want to build.
What about professional facebreaker? The deck has quute a bit of treasure genration, getting cardadvantage of it seems nice
Its not a bad addition by any means - more treasure generation and ways to turn it into impulse draw is a great form of utility and would be a solid entry to the build!
Thanks for making this deck!
I have already bought two of your previous deck techs (Tovolar and Killian) and was very happy with them!
I will now save up some money to buy this one as well, looks really cool, I got Mikaeus, the Unhallowed in a booster so will definitely add him to the deck, who do you recommend to take out for him?
Keep up the great work!
Glad to hear you enjoyed this build and have been having fun with some of my previous ones!
For Mikaeus, I would say swapping out Yargle, Glutton of Urborg would be a safe bet - since he's going to give us a lot more value in the long run.
Hoo boy, a Horror deck coming up! Might have to tweak Umbris a bit after next week...
Excellent deck this week
Captain N'ghathrod and Umbris do have some overlap and with some new horrors that came with the deck that may certainly be the case.
Glad you enjoyed this weeks build!
I'm curious why dose know one run mazirek kraul death priest? All those sacs would pump the rest of the board for bigger sacs next turn.
This issue here is that Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest is a better include in a deck that can make a wider baordstate than this, since this build tends to not have a big big board and creatures (outside of Ziatora herself) tend to not stick around for too long anyway. Still, I would say that it is not a bad include, since it is a sac payoff after all - so run it if you feel so inclined!
I love the deck tech and can’t wait to build it, but I do have a question. Would all the “until end of turn” effects end before creatures could be sacrificed to Ziatora?
Edit: I looked it up, there’s beginning of end step and then cleanup. You can sac creatures during the beginning and the “until end of turn” effects don’t end until the cleanup phase.
Surely U can order it how U want
Exactly - sorry for the late response but yeah, most if not all "power doubling" effects don't bleed off until the turn actually ends during/after cleanup, so it works fine with Ziatora and other fling effects!
How long does it take you from conception to finish to brew a deck? It takes me weeks to finish a deck, between work and life I have small windows to brew. I think about the deck in brewing all the time but when it comes time to brew I get overwhelmed by options and idea shifts. I’m just curious how long it takes you to brew?
Also I’d love love love to see your take on the background commander of the new horror deck! I’m gonna be making a love craft inspires horror clue deck with it and the background .
Usually, the core concept can takes a day and refining it usually takes a another day or 2 (sometimes even more depending how the deck performs in testing).
Hope that helps!
And regarding the alternate commanders from the precons, maybe we'll see them in future polls, so keep an eye out!
I used to play the scorpion god as a commander 2 years ago, interesting to see him in this deck, weird but I love him too much not to try him out
He works surprisingly well actually in this build (in my testing anyway), serving as both removal, card draw and a repeatable sac target if needed.
@@GrazzetMTG will be giving your deck a try soon enough, lots of cards that look too fun not to. Also going to be trying out the orshov vehicles deck that im super excited to try out, when I first saw that commander I dismissed it too fast, your video made me reconsider and try her out!
Jund just kept winning this set lol. I guess what they say is true, "When in doubt, Jund 'em out".
Yeah, Jund got a grand slam this time around with 4 commanders (including Henzie from the precon upgrade) being covered this time around! Its certainly a crowd favorite in this set!
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I just want to put a Furnace of Wrath in here and try to one shot everyone.
Yeah, Damage doublers can go a long way to speed us this decks ability to close out games for sure!
@@GrazzetMTG Thanks for making this video! I've been wanting to make this deck for a while now and you have certainly helped feed my idea engine.
i love you
I love me too! Seriously though, thanks for the support!
Nothing personal, but when you cover the DnD commanders, I will skip all your videos till that set is done.
Fair enough - though there are some pretty spice commanders coming out in that set,
I really like your content, but I dont like DnD in my magic soup.
Once your done with Baldurs gate, I happily return and enjoy your Videos.