🔷 NIKON Z6II FULL REVIEW 😇
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Okay, here’s what I think! First, I’ve owned all Nikon D series cameras from D3300 - D850, also Sony’s from A 6000 a A7riii, and Fuji X- T20 - X-T3, oh, and currently shooting Z6 and had the z7 too. Ken, is operating from a hurt place, due to something Nikon did in the past or should I say didn’t do, and this makes him negatively bias. I have delivered some amazing pictures to clients with all my cameras, and love the Z6 everywhere except studio work, but even there it’s good. The Z6ii has answered the issues that I needed addressing, especially dual card slots. Okay, one other gripe, the auto tracking auto focus is still in need of improving. I am buying the z6ii and keeping my z6 also
i said the Z6II is "A FINE CAMERA"...........just not a great one......so you dont listen, which is your fault, NOT MINE
@@KenTheoriaApophasis I heard you clearly, and felt like you weren’t giving a fair review.
@@KenTheoriaApophasis But only 6 out of 10 doesn’t sound ‘fine’ to me!
Z6II has also a big issue with the banding in low light what is something that should be fixed years ago, but unfortunately, they didn't. :(
I'm getting a Z6 II and I'm a diehard Nikon fan. I agree with the issue of the poor card door placement and engineering. For what you're paying, he likely feels, is that you're not getting enough for your dollar. Usage of the top of the camera may not be the best and subject tracking may leave much to be desired, but that's why the 6/10.
For a $2,000 body, certain things shouldn't have been overlooked. I feel as though these new cameras are S's more than II's, you know? Even still, I can't wait to get mine!
Quick fix, camera shoots 14fps. Not 12. And it's the fastest mechanical shutter on the market, so it's not lacking there unless you are comparing electronic shutters to mechanical shutters.
In 12bit raw, in 14bit raw it is 11. The fastest is the XT-4 15fps for what is mirrorless! dslr 1dx3 16fps with mirror and 20 mechanical without mirror.
So not that much better and if you prefer to have the best raw the r6 still faster, and again the Xt4 15fps 14bit
@@Guillaume9 To be fair, I believe the claim Alik is making is FF mirrorless and the claim was originally made by Kai. So... The XT-4 is not a full frame camera, it's APS-C. The 1dx3 is a DSLR and while it can hit 20fps in mechanical shutter mode with the mirror locked up that's not what the claim the Z-6ii has and even then the cost is many times higher...
@@ElGrecoDaGeek still in raw 12bit so not the highest quality, to have 14bit it is 11fps! What is not said too is that this 14fps is stuck on af point so pretty much unusable!
11fps is not bad but the r6 does better with yes an extra cash but 11fps is what does the a7III ( in compressed raw ).
Also your point of ff vs apsc dosen't show on the original comment,it said "the fastest mechanical shutter" in that term it isn't and as you have argument, there is too that say that it is not achieve a usable way, or at least not conviniently
@@Guillaume9 you missed my point, he was regurgitating a fact from Kai's preview video. That's what I was getting at. Kai said it was the fastest FF mirrorless and clearly he either misqualified that above or misunderstood Kai...
@@ElGrecoDaGeek I totally understand you ^^ just that there wasn't any reference to that on the comment of alik! What said Kai is true but with drawbacks that let me to believe that very few people got an eye on nikon official spec sheet!
Still a good camera, I had got the first version, just don't find Nikon dslr level refinement on those, now I got an r6 which is closer to canon dslr in term of experience ( with an almost as good sensor as the z6 )
Interesting review. I have both the d850 and z6ii, using both regularly for wildlife photography. I agree with some of your criticism but differ on some key points and overall impression. I love both the d850 and z6 but, for me, they are very different cameras for different purposes. No one camera, at least yet, can do everything. For fast action in good light, or when I know ill be cropping a lot, the d850 every time. In lower light, where I'm closer to the subject, always the z6. It would have never occurred to me to even try and compare the two. Regarding some of the criticism we disagree on. I think the Z6 IQ is fantastic, and I'm comparing that with the d850 daily. The low noise at high ISO is one of my favourite aspects of the camera, it is just phenomenal in low light. Crucial for me is the silent shutter when close to a subject and touch screen autofocus, I rarely use the view finder as I want the camera as low as possible and have the ability to very quickly compose a shot using the flexibility of almost full sensor af point coverage. These points also held true for the z6, I upgraded for a small number of incremental updates which irritated me such as the slower AF and how dammed long it took to come out of standby! In summary, d850 amd z6ii, both great, both different, both indispensable for me.
this is only a 2nd generation nikon mirrorless......the D850 is a XXXXXXth generation DSLR.
@@KenTheoriaApophasis Indeed. And already producing, for my use case, a great camera. I'm optimistic that a mirrorless D850 beater will be on offer at some point in the future and my comment stating no one camera can do everything may no longer be as valid.
@Siddharth Sriram interesting. I actually found the opposite to be the case for me. I also have the d500 and wasn't happy with the IQ in low light, especially when the ISO started to creep up. Like you, I use the 500pf on my d850 and the 300mm PF is almost always on the z6, sometimes the 70-200FL. Instagram is the only place i have photos online, tristan.bane, with the exception of the most recent post all the fox images have been taken with the z6. Most others are the d850, including the most recent fox Post. That was the only occasion I used the d850 for the foxes as it is just too loud!
@@tristanbane4873 NIce pix.. what lens did you use to take the butterfly ( macro? )? Plus, what lens did you use for the foxes, squirrel etc..
@@joshmcdzz6925 Thanks, Josh. The foxes are almost all the 300mm PF. A few are the 70-200 FL. The squirrels and butterfly , the 500mm PF
My only gripes is with the door for the memory cards.
I will still buy one to accompany my Z6 for all round weddings and street photography.
I will disregard your opinions as think this camera is more than good enough for what I want to use it for.
I do miss my d500 but this is my way forward.
It’s makes me laugh what he’s says about the memory card door as when you are holding the camera you are actually pressing against the door not pushing it open!
@@GeoffKirby I use my Z6 with no real problems for weddings which is more of a battle field for photographers especially when you have loads of other competing photographers struggling and almost trading blows to get the right shot.
The Z6 performs excellently and I don't quite agree with most negative things Ken says about the new Z6.
@@GeoffKirby I agree, I don’t understand the gripe about the card slot door. The thumb rests nicely on the ergonomically designed surface and the door cannot be opened unless you pull/slide the door towards you from the side. I own a Z6 for over a year now, and the only camera I carry on every outing in the mountains and woods in all weather conditions with no issues. I’m scratching my head on that one and in my option, just not a real issue on theZ6.
I have a Z6 and have pre ordered the Z7 II. I have not experienced 3/4’s of the problems you have with the Z6 II with my Z6. In fact I have not heard a lot of your complaints nor have I experienced them. I have the D850 and have been using the Z6 more and more. I believe you are using bias in your review.
Do you prefer the z6 to your d850?
And yet Nikon is not selling any cameras so something is wrong 😯
@@chrisvig123 "not selling any cameras" hahahaha
I appreciate the honesty. But to each his own. Coming from a D750. This was a massive upgrade 👌
So Ken, could we see the pictures you took from the skaters?
Instead of comparing specs and rants, please post pictures and review
@@natedagreat90 yup he is not the one we should rely on for camera reviews
@@tectorama They aren't good. Just test shots. I think he is worried he will be criticized.
You Should Compare The Z7 ii To The D850, Not The Z6 ii . They Both Have The 45 mp sensor !
@Geoff Kirby I use my Z6 with no real problems for weddings which is more of a battle field for photographers especially when you have loads of other competing photographers struggling and almost trading blows to get the right shot.
The Z6 performs excellently and I don't quite agree with most negative things Ken says about the new Z6.
I don't think any mirrorless camera will survive a drop.
That includes the do called Sony canon Fujifilm Olympus Panasonic and Nikon.
My Z6 survived just fine bouncing off my dashboard after flying off my passenger seat during a 60+mph emergency/panic stop. The lens hood not so much. Lol. They’ll take more than people give them credit for but more technical cameras become the more sensitive they will become to rough handling, temps & water exposure.
My Z6 and 24-70 f/4S with lens hood survived a tumble down from my tripod while photographing sunset over Sparks Lake in Oregon. No dings or scratches and is functioning as normal. Pretty durable but I don’t recommend testing that for yourself. My heart almost jumped out off my chest. Lol!
Ken does not want to like Nikon anymore. Nikon could give him exactly what he wants and it still wouldn’t be enough. #fujifanboy
Ken, Whatever Nikon produce, you will hate it no matter what, you are definitely one of the most biased Anti-Nikon UA-camr out there, i wish you get well soon.
Thank you for the review.
I am not femiliar with other camera systems. I've used 2 Nikon's D750's for tha past 3.5 years and I got great value for the price in my opinion. Yes, there were problems here and there but nothing out of the ordinary and overall my expereance was very positive. so when the time came I bought the origional Z6 and now I've added also the Z6Ii. I have to say Im just getting to start enjoying the new technologies mirrorless cameras offer, and even if there is a better system out there, I feel so comfortable holding a Nikon's body, so thinking about trying another brand just comes off the table everytime.
Waiting for the Adobe to update thete programs for Z6II raw file, so I could realy try and enjoy it.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and comments on this camera...I am always interested in your comments as I am only a hobbyist at 78 yrs...& still love my D500 results... upgrading is not a priority for me, however I love to hear about new Nikon gear..again thanks & cheers .😀
Sir Please make video Hating SONY
Which full frame mirrorless camera would be a better choice than this Z6ii?
you are always sitting there on your review and never get out or show any picture to try it out
I agree with your assessment of the Z6 II, but some of your comparisons are dated. For example, I can't imagine the Z6 II can hold the R5/R6's jockstrap in an Eye AF battle. Honestly, Sony comes up short there, even if it might edge ahead in other AF areas. Grabbing an eye in action at 60-100 feet is pretty much unheard of outside of Canon, at least for now.
By the way, low megapixel full frame cameras DON'T have better dynamic range (unless your talking 6400 ISO or more) so that statement of yours make me question every other thing you have said about camera sensors.
I don't understand the top panel space management part. The buttons are literally the same as most any dslr, plus a cool litle white on black display. Maybe the shutter dial should of been a little different?
Nikon D4,(s); D3,(s),(x); D800,(e); 810 had a historical proven records of reliable and performance. I am 65 years old and let us give the time to Z7, (II); Z6, (II) to prove themselves in the field of the next 13 years. I think D3 came out in the USA market on August 2007. Hope I could last that long during the COVID-19 pandemic. I have to point out the pricing differences between the two. also the mirrorless vs mirror between the two.
I think it needs magnets like the iPhone 12. That will draw better pictures out of the photographer
I have always listened to you and I agree with you. I love your honest reviews. I have been using Nikon for the last 30 years and I really love Nikon and its DSLR cameras. Inspite of all the upgrades and convineince of mirrorless cameras I am still nostalgic about DSLRs. The linear and straight line design of z series does not entice me to go mirrorless. D850 is a class apart and z series cameras are too bland a design looks quite empty without dials and buttons.
Sony bought out the old Minolta brand and kept using the Minolta tech but added some of their own. Some of it of course they made it a lot better.
Ken, interesting video. I mainly photograph wildlife and a bit of sports and my main camera is a D500. How does the Z6 ll compare to the D500 for my uses?
to be fair to nikon they seem to be the only ones doing full frame mirror-less right. they do deserve credit for that. people are insane to think that the sony mount wont be a major draw back down the road. i m not getting a z6ii, maybe a iv... used in 2026.
Thanks for the honest review, I think the z6 is a good camera for most people, but there is still a lot of room for improvement. Hopefully the mark3 will hit the mark. I’m still loving the d850 and my D prime lenses.
I agree I almost got the z5 but it had zero screen on top, have to have some kind of display even its crap
Always good for a Nikon bashing. Very predictable. Nothing new here.
you better check the NEWS son!!!!
petapixel.com/2020/11/23/nikon-in-dire-straits-as-its-slump-is-particularly-untimely-report/
Z6ii Tipa award 2021: best full frame camera advanced category. Yes I know, the shutter sounds too loud 🔊
Would be nice if you coud point out some things that are kind of important. Like image quality or dyamic range, etc.
And actually show some shots.
Objectivity means use non biased data, not your 'feel' or opinion. Its valid of course but its not objective, its anedoctal.
Measure shutter noise objectively for example is measure actual sound in deciqbels comparing with others of the same class/price range and show numbers.
Same for speed, dynamic range, vignetting, iso noise, chromatic aberration, etc.
With that said i like your reviews but i always take them with a grain of salt, precisely because altough its a independent view its not objective.
I think someone didn’t spend enough time in the cuddle room #safespace
I absolutely love your critical reviews they are very important for anyone who deciding to thousands of dollars on any gear, just wanted to know few things, is nikon d850's focus peaking better than z6 II or are they the same?
I like my x-t2 very much and the only thing I wish it had was faster af. I paid 500.00 for it in mint condition with a battery grip. I like nikon but it doesn't look that great for them moving forward.
Don’t be fooled it’s awesome Wayne
Did you check whether evf was in energy saving mode?? The evf experience that I had with this camera was excellent
I have a mirrorless camera with a Leica lens and it costs 600 dollars new with the lens. It's also made in Japan!
Eye tracking on Canons R5 and R6 is fantastic. As good or better than Sony.
Just spotted a picture of what appears to be the new Nikon 400 2.8 MK2. So I messaged Nikon asking them to identify the lens in the picture I sent them and they’ve just replied and state they’re unable to comment on lenses not yet released! 🤣🤣🤣 The new lens looks absolutely stunning and appears attached to the Nikon Z. No sign of any adapter.
Thanks Ken. I’m happy with my D700 and if I were to upgrade, I think I’d be looking at a D850. All the best!
What’s your purpose? Different tools for different jobs.
@@milesian1 mostly portraits of our dogs, and landscapes. Some are printed, many only have to be web-ready. So the D700 works like a charm - in fact, if I wwre to complain about it, my complaint would just be the noise from the shutter, as it distracts younger dogs and a mirrorless would undoubtedly be quieter!
@@tsdelaney The D700 is a wonderful beast - I still have two of them. The D850 is the most versatile, top quality DSLR ever made IMHO. I've owned mine for over two years and it's been an absolute pleasure for my portrait and event work. I recently got a Z6 (MkI) for its hybrid features as I shoot a lot of real estate stills and video, and I am just about ready to sell my Fujifilm gear and my D850. Not that it's "better" than the D850, but it's enough for me. I think you'd like the improved AF tracking of the Z6ii and silent shutter mode for your purposes. You can't go wrong with the D850, but give the Z6 and Z6ii a look for sure.
@@milesian1 Thanks for the first-hand perspective! Much appreciated!
@@tsdelaney Always a pleasure to lend my perspective to a fellow D700 lover ; ) Wishing you all the best!
I’m just looking for a good mirrorless camera with stabilization for under $2000. I shoot with Nikon but I’m willing to change if there’s a better mirrorless camera out there. I would like to use this mirrorless camera as a workhorse... shooting everything.
The Z6ii is an awesome camera , and but the middle of next year you’ll be able to get this camera for $2000
Thank you for your review and all the honesty and information. My last Nikon is a D810 and D750. My mirrorless cameras are Panasonic Lumix. I still have all my Nikon gear and was hoping that Nikon would manufacture a more advance mirrorless system. Your review gave me the impression that this is not the camera I was hoping for. I may try one, if I can get my hands on one. Thank you again.
Hi Joel, the Z6ii is a great camera dude, after buying the z6 last year and now I have the Z6ii I’ll be selling my d750 and using the z series to shoot my weddings with in 2021. Plus you can use all your old lenses with the adapter and it works seamlessly! If you are like me coming from an the Nikon SLR camera you will use point selected focusing any way which is exactly the same but after awhile you can get use to the eye auto focusing and it’s awesome and makes shooting so easy .cheers Joel and good luck
@@GeoffKirby Hi, how do you like your z6II for wedding videos so far. I am in the market for a mirror less camera and all the comments point me to sony or panasonic. However all my lenses are for nikon.
I won't be returning mine ...... Because I haven't purchased it.
I will stick with my D500 and D850 both purchased on you reviews ..... the mirrorless will have to wait.
Thanks for input 👍
So what would you recommend for someone looking to upgrade to mirrorless, taking owned lenses out of the equation?
(If I go for a NIkon Z camera I would buy new Z mount lenses anyway).
Full format sensor, In the same price range as the z6ii?
Your criticism about the z series cameras aside, and I understand that they are your honest thoughts, I would still like to hear your opinions on the z series lenses.
Ken did you find the spread of the focus points to be a handy feature when testing with the skateboarders for example? One annoyance of my D850 is the clustering of the focus points around the center
it is handy yes, however its still not wide enough for what ive become used to, however AF is very fast, but its still not a top AF camera for action :/
@@KenTheoriaApophasis Before mirrorless and all these gimicky AF spread focus points, people's been taking fast action/sports.. how did they do it? All these gimicky new feat in cameras, detract from the real reason for buying a camera ( DR, Color Depth, ISO capability and RAW capture )... other than that you will lost in the insatiable desire of new inventions and feat. of a camera gear.
@@joshmcdzz6925 i think this is the greatest comment ive ever read on a camera review...you are exactly right ppl been taking great clear pictures way before all these af eye gimmicks...
Haven’t you sold the D850, Ken?
I'm thinking of getting Z50 alongside the D500 to have better autofocus for video.
What you think?
Good dx video photo combo👍
Hey Ken. I have an odd question. I noticed a round, black and red tag on your Fuji. I'm guessing it says: PD on the small tag. Caught my attention due to my purchase of a camera from an ebay store. This Nikon D300s has the exact same tag, and I wondered where the camera originally came from. Could stand for PD = paid. Or Police Department, or maybe Photo Department. Could just be something esoteric that really means nothing in the real world. The ebay store is a liquidations company, I believe. You have that same tag on that one camera.
The tag is from Peak Design and is to attach to a camera strap. You an easily take the strap part off if you are on a tripod and don't want it blowing in the wind. They are great!
@@robinc-k7162 Thank you. I have wondered this for some time now. I've seen more of these Tags since I asked Ken. Thank you very much!
2022. Waiting for D850 used prices to come down. Sweet spot is a used D810 for under $1K. so I bought one.
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Which Fuji camera is good for landscape , sports and wildlife ? I was thinking about Nikon z6II and Fuji..
The Nikon Z6ii
As an ex Z7 owner, the memory card door point is definitely valid. With a 200-500 adapted, you can actually feel the door shift slightly while using/gripping. Huge design flaw IMO.
That ain‘t the battery door. The battery door is at the bottom of the grip.
This guy’s clearly delusional folks. The fact that he gave a Z5 an 8/10 illustrates his lack of knowledge. The Z5 has awful low light performance, shoots 4 FPS and shoots video in crop mode. Not to mention the exorbitant cost for a watered down camera. You would get much better value picking up a used Z6.😂
The Nikon auto focus system has always been poop, compared to the Canon R8 and Sony Aiii, the Nikon auto focus system is a joke. Who wants a camera that can be stood on my an elephant and still work (D4) but only gives you (if you are lucky) 60% of ultra sharp photos? I love watching your videos
It's just as good if not better than the Sony Aiii. Most iof the time, it's down to user error.
Can't really disagree with most of what you said, but I do wonder why you want to compare this camera to the D850? Nikon is not releasing their pro bodies before next year.
if the Z8 is great, ill say so, the D850 is NOT a PRO body, the D5 / D5s is, youre confused
@@KenTheoriaApophasis So Nikon only has one pro body? Jeez. I thought I've seen D850s used for portraits and weddings. My bad.
Would you change the nikon d750 for z6? Still not ready to jump to z format.
The Z6ii lost the ability to adjust shutter speed using the rear command disk in all modes including S and M. I can change shutter speed with the front command disk in S and M modes by flipping the main/sub command disks into the custom control settings. I can also change shutter speeds in S and M modes using the touchscreen. Therefore, the issue appears to be exclusively related to the back command disk. I have reset the camera to default settings to make sure the menu setting is not the problem. The camera firmware has been updated to version 1.30. The new camera was purchased earlier this year. I was able to adjust the shutter speed with the back command disk before updating the firmware.
Has anyone had this problem? I'm trying to determine if it's a mechanical issue or a firmware update issue. I searched Google for the issue to see if it was related to the last firmware update to version 1.30 and didn't see any posts about the update
How ist the eye relief of the Fuji Camera (for instance X-T30 or X-S10) compared to the Nikon Z6 Mk. II?
Some personal additions of a D750 / Z6 II user:
(Fuji's XT/GFX in parallel)
Subscribing crucial points to 90%.
Adding: size/3d-size of new Z-models is too small in my opinion - there's a gap between old and new that's too big.
AF Performance is really next step - with Z-Lenses.
FTZ + focus peaking with older manual lenses is just mediocre.
Other technical stuff is contemporary upgrade, nothing to point out in my opinion too much.
Image output in general is good, JPGs are better than via the D750.
From lowlight/available light perspective (concert, theater, street - the reason to buy a D750 at that time): Image output on higher ISO (from 3200) is too softened .. the "better" noise behavior .. a result of blurring out too much detail or just not that "kind of better" I expected. Just a trade off. AF-performance in low-contrast situation ist NOT distinctly superior.
Nikon vs Fuji:
Physical advantages of full frame, of course, and better LCD/Colors. But Fuji is always "au point". Fantastic lenses, good AF-performance. Reliable in every aspect. At a reproducible price point ..
Hardware:
Nikon Z6 II + 70-200/2.8 S + Sigma 85/1.4 Art
Fuji XT4 + 90mm/f2 + 50-140/2.8
With love from Germany --
Love your opinion. If I had to change, do you think the z 6ii is better than the z6?
I'm happy the Z6ii came out. Its still to early to make the switch from dslr. I just bought a d850 for 2300cdn with only 791 shutter count. Looks like a lot of dslr owners are scrabbling to sell gear cheap. I will wait 4 more years before I make a switch.
Can you do a video on how you set-up the Nikon to maximize its usability. It is always good to hear other thoughts on best practices for this.
Even Matt Irwin yesterday told me to go for Z6 II... Z6 II has better mount, low light performance, colour science, battery life... He also accepted that Z6 II has not so good AF system as Canon's...
So, I'm going for Nikon Z6 II... A7 III I have used but I feel it has worse ergonomics than even D500...
see the news???
you better check the NEWS !!!!
petapixel.com/2020/11/23/nikon-in-dire-straits-as-its-slump-is-particularly-untimely-report/
@@KenTheoriaApophasis No worries... May be I'll wait for some time... But I'm not going with Sony or I have no money to upgrade to Canon...😂
@@KenTheoriaApophasis Well Sir, I read the article... But it nowhere shows how bad Z6 II is... It was just about the sales and company's place in the market... Yeah, it may happen as Nikon is around 100 years old company... What about the Z6 II? It's image quality, performance...
@@photoinspire8773 I feel same... The reply he's given me is totally irrelevant... We know Fuji is better.. but Z6 II has good sides... Just show them it's not at all a bad camera... But no😂
Please remember that although Nikon look like they are in trouble we are in the middle of a global pandemic and camera sales are down due to people being in lock down for nearly a year
They are also moving their manufacturing plant around which will look terrible on paper but after time will save them money.
Also Nikon is an arrogant company and
Nikon is owned the mitsubishi group which just happens to be the leading global financial services group and one of the largest banking institutions in Japan.
I was waiting your review to buy that camera. I already got nikon lenses I need for what I do and I was looking for an upgrade for my d7100 which I love. Now will save a little bit more to go for the d850. I really believe you got the most honest reviews out there and I trust your opinion. Good job!
You gave it a better review than I expected. The stuff you rated as pluses I agreed with and most of the negatives seemed, from the way I took your comments, to be personal preferences. The eye relief and top of the camera and the size of the rear wheel all seemed personal. I have big hands... Size 2X gloves are tight, and I too where glasses, and I like all those things that you didn't. In the good ole days those were things people called personal preferences.
On the issue with set up. I just disagree. The set up and operation of the Z menus and focus is different. You might want to look at Hudson Henry's video on recommended settings for the Z6II. He is a big fan, and he does have affiliate links, but he has been using the camera since the Zs came out, and he is comfortable with the cameras and lenses. He does a lot of landscape but also does his share of action as well.
I hope you have a great Thanksgiving and Christmas. God bless.
Great objective analysis. Thank you.
You may find this amusing. Since your review of the Z6II and Nikon mirror-less, UPP has a hell of a lot of Z6 and Z7 cameras in inventory.
I know you've done said this but which camera is the best or is your favorite camera for looking up at the moon and other close things in space. I just had emergency surgery and I was kind of dosing. i hate I missed the whole thing and will probably watch the whole thing again but in your opinion, what's the best just for looking up? I know Nikon is a top brand but I could care less about brand. I care about the quality of the image and which camera gives the best quality. Thanks. Stay safe and aware. God Bless
Just got my d850 a week ago after selling back the z6. I have to say that I don’t regret at all. For Hardcore Camera & Lens choice, I’ll always follow Ken’s reviews on past and coming gears, period!
lol, my mom struggled to find even butter in 1970s in soviet russia
I had my hesitations in getting the Z6 last year initially due to your thoughts on it but I honestly have no regrets about a year later. Having used it for real estate shoots daily with the 14-30 f/4 z it has proven to be a true workhorse with excellent output, sharpness and ergo -- not to mention the great video capabilities! Only real complaint is the poor battery life. I think I will likely skip this model since its updates are not as important to my line of work as say a portrait or event photographer.
image output is great, you dont need fast AF for real estate :)
If you really prefer Nikkon mirroless then go for z5. Safest bet and save you alot of your hard earned cash for a B cam.
I like to hear a true mechanical shutter so it doesnt feel like a toy, phone, or my old fake shutter sound from my bridge zoom Fuji hs20 exr which is hideous from someone used to dslr.
If Nikon wanted to could they do a firmware update and give the d850 eye focus ?
Only in live view but the live view focus sucks.
Fair and objective as usual, thank you.
Loud shutter: Scares off wild life, obnoxious during a quiet event (wedding). Other than that who would care? Is there a silent mode option? Would it affect performance?
(edit) looks like it has silent shooting with some limitations
What’s a better buy XT4 vs Z6ii for general personal. Tks
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for general both would be great, but the XT4 more so
Goodness, you gave the Z5 an 8/10, so that is definitely saying something. I guess I'll be picking up a A7iii for a secondary full frame camera.
the Z5 is pretty fine actually, id rather have IT for much less $$$$$ than this Z6II
a few years down the road, on a really tight budget, used Z5 or used Z6 (mark1)?
The Z6 II is a better camera than the Sony A7 III - which is getting outdated. It has better build quality, better IQ, better native lenses and the AF is close enough at this point. Depending on what you are doing with the camera (i.e. use case) you should definitely consider the Z6 II before spending almost the same amount of $ on the old Sony. The new A7 IV - whenever it comes out may be a different story but A7 III is pretty long in the tooth at this point.
@@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548 I’d never buy the z6 because of the single card slot
@@baronsilverton6504 native lenses are definitely not better, plus also a significantly smaller amount, plus Sony has a significant better market share which Nikon’s future is up in the air. Sony has Tamron, Samyang, Zeiss, Sigma etc making native lenses, Sigma has already said they have no plans of making native Z mount lenses and Tamron is also not sure about it. The A7iii is like $700CDN cheaper than the Z6ii right now. Also if the a7iii is getting long in the tooth then so would the Z6ii as it’s using the same technology from 2 years ago, and 2 years ago Sony was significantly faster than Nikon. Nikon has better ergos and better lcd / evf. But the a7iii still had the best low light, best AF, and is rated one of the best cameras you can buy. I want the z6ii but I don’t think it’s worth the price
In other words then, the D850 is still a better option ...
well, that depends on the user case
The Z6ii has so far impressed me. Much better than the Z6. If you need all that “help” with AF tracking etc that the Sony offers than all the power to you.
Finally an honest review (y)
How about image quality? What to say about silent shooting? Anyway i think u are right, but comming from Pentax, i am glad Nikon came out with something. PS using Canon lenses on My z6.
damn and I thought my desk was messy
Much as it seems this guy drastically over estimates his own intelligent and misunderstands the words “objective” and “fact,” there does seem to be some consensus so far that this isn’t a big upgrade in performance over the mark I.
Hey man, love the channel, so i thought i have a good content idea for a video i'd like to see: have you ever tried combining adapters? i'm a massive cheapskate and i got a sony nex to canon FD speedbooster/focal length reducer and since i only wanted to buy one speedbooster, i tried to combine that speedbooster with a m42 to canon FD adapter xD
so the video idea would be: try combining different adapters with different speedboosters and see which work and which don't :D
I don’t agree with your opinion but I like your review anyways. The lens sharpness on the s line are worth it over the 850 f glass imo and I have both. Just my opinion based on what I value.
this is only a 2nd generation nikon mirrorless......the D850 is a XXXXXXth generation DSLR.
i sleep well as long as im fair and honest about what something IS,.....i dont sell anything and have no affiliate links. This is a FINE camera, but NO GREAT ONE, not a chance in hell.
@@KenTheoriaApophasis I know you're right about your reasons for valuing one over the other. You are fair and honest and your opinion is sound.
Thank you for posting. I’m thinking of moving up from my DX format to full frame and since i have Nikon or Nikon F mount 3rd party lenses from when I started back in the mid 80’s I was thinking about a new D610 (cheap) or 850 or Z6II. Honestly want to use my old MF lenses (Nikon, Lensbaby, Lomography, Helios etc). IF I want video, I have my Blackmagic Pocket 4K. Or maybe later a Z cam full frame or at least super 35... (will see how Z cam shakes out eventually vs Blackmagic) and for quick snaps and video, my iPhone 11 and next iPhone 13 Pro with the 3rd improved 3x lens... So really looking for a new or late model used full frame DSLR Nikon or possibly a full frame mirrorless with GOOD FOCUS PEAKING... what would you suggest? I’m thinking pricing of D610 would be ideal and for me might be the best choice... I’ll look at the 850’s. Being DSLR’s I won’t have to worry about focus peaking as much... but it would help in live view. I guess I have to look at your videos of the 850, 610 if you have it... and really learn something about Fuji. Again I couldn’t care less about AF, eye tracking etc.. but do care about raw, color balance, usability with older manual lenses. I don’t want to go as old as my 300’s in a full frame.. something current or recent.. or a new fangled Fuji? Thoughts? Ok, going to check out your other videos.. always valuable, always entertaining.
Personally I'd rather stick with my X-T2 but if someone wants to buy a full frame mirrorless then what would you recommend, Ken?
a FX mirrorless......none that i like, rather a medium format GFX, FX is all but dead to me honeslty
A Z6ii don’t listen to Ken mate, I have the Z6ii and it’s outstanding and this comes from a professional photographer that has shot over 300 weddings over the past 10 years on a D4 and a d750.
I have the xt2 and bought the Z6 this past year. It is better in many ways, others it is not. It depends on how much money you are willing to spend for the areas of improvement a full frame camera will give you. What are you going to be using it for. There are many questions to consider but pretty much any camera made today is going to be able to get the shots you want. Its 99% personal preference. Its really not worth listening to someone else's personal preference tell you what to buy. Just do your research and think about it and you will make the best choice for you.
For me shooting weddings, I need my cameras to have great files and minimum noise in low light situations. I had a friend of mine 2nd shoot for me using the xt-2 and anything over 800 / 1600 iso were very noisy
@@paulthomas8986 Excellent point, I totally agree - it's mostly down to personal preference. Someone who knows at he is doing should be able to get pro-level images from virtually any APS-C or 35mm (I don't like the term "full frame") digital camera (or even from M4/3). It is largely down to personal preference and how you like to shoot.
D500 vs z6ii ?
DSLr forever! Don’t care about new features. All mirrorless are just way too small.
Can you do a comparison of the d850 to the z7 mark ii
Fuji, Fuji, Fuji… I owned an XT3 and had shot Fuji’s for 10 years when I got my Z6. The Fuji is long gone and I’m transitioning to Z6II and Z7 to replace my D850.
why?
Every time I go into my local camera store they put the Z6 into my hands, and I’ve never been that impressed with it. I’ve been shooting Nikon DSLRs for many years, but I just have never really been that impressed with the Z6 (and the Z lenses) when I’ve had my hands on them.
Since that’s the only mirrorless camera I’ve ever had my hands on, I didn’t really see a huge reason to go to mirrorless. Then, for something lighter for travel and hiking, I bought an Olympus E-M1 Mark iii, and I was blown away! Wow... Then I understood fully what mirrorless cameras can be. The Nikon Z cameras are just not impressive, when I decide to buy a mirrorless with a larger sensor I’m just going to look more at Fuji over Nikon.
Nikon makes something awesome, ill be the 1st to say so, they make CRAP, ill say so.
its a fine camera, just not a great one.... this is only a 2nd generation nikon mirrorless......the D850 is a XXXXXXth generation DSLR.
i sleep well as long as im fair and honest about what something IS,.....i dont sell anything and have no affiliate links. This is a FINE camera, but NO GREAT ONE, not a chance in hell.
Not a good decision. If you use the z6 and later pick up the fuji, you will surely drop the fuji.. unless you shoot in jpeg.. I laugh when I hear people scream this camera is better than the other.. It's the most confusing statement to me because the only reason ANY NORMAL person will log around a camera over an iphone/android is because of the RAW capability.. It's a smarter idea to stick with a camera system.. no camera system will make your pix better.. the only reason to buy a camera is for the shooting experience, RAW format.. I see all these new feat like eyeAF, animalAF as gimicky just replacing the real function of a trad. camera...
@@joshmcdzz6925 features like Eye AF and Animal AF work and help improve focus hit rate when implemented well, they’re not gimmicks... calling something a gimmick implies that they don’t work well or aren’t useful, which is not true at all. If you want to be a purist and eschew the modern features of mirrorless that’s your business, but a lot of these features are very useful and help people get the shot. There’s no compelling reason for me to buy a Z6, and now that I’ve seen how much better other companies are at mirrorless, I’m looking elsewhere. I’d maybe be more inclined to buy one of the FtZ adapter had full support for older F mount lenses, but I can’t even use my D lenses with autofocus on the Z6. I’ll stick with my Nikon DSLR and look elsewhere for mirrorless until they start coming up with something more compelling. I’d rather have the D780 than the z6, at least my old lenses will work well.
@@veronikagundersen9334 good luck...the usefulness of a feature in a camera principally depends on your genre.. but prior to eyeAF and animalAF people's being taking pictures of fast action and sports with DSLR and even SLRs with high keeper rate.. I guess the norm now is skill be damned get a sony/fuji robot.. plus, gimmicky don't mean it doesn't work but just a detractor from the real thing..
Gimmicky
(of a trick or device) intended to attract attention, publicity, or trade.
This Z thing to me is not good enough, I still want a D500 or D850 but still cant afford the insane amount of money they cost. Nice review Ken, your channel is always my top reference. Guess haters gonna hate no matter what you say. Have a nice week.
Not sure what your budget it, but the D500 is beyond affordable nowadays. Well that is, if you don't mind buying used gear...
@@russellwright9961 hello! I live in Mexico City and here the 500 is affordable. im keeping en eye now in the D780, looks good, a bit more expensive but probably I will buy a new camera in 1 or 2 years.
Hi everyone, I have a fuji xh1, for me one of the best camera in quality, ergonomy and price in APSC. I buy a Nikon d700 to enter slowly in the FF world with your advices with the Nikkor 60mm 2.8 and Nikon 24-85 VR ED and the results even in low light are beautiful, the "rendu" is very nice. Sony and the rest I don't like there philosophy, ergonomy and colors. But we must look to Panasonic with is new line : S5, S1, SR very good ergonomy, beautiful image quality, what a "piqué"! (lumix s 24-105), very well build and many firmware update to optimize the performance. Thank you for your test and work is very useful. Have a nice day Hub.
That’s it I’m keeping my Nikon EM !🤣
are there any compatability issues with third party lenses on the z6ii?
Thing is, from the perspective of being a lens reviewer, you should keep one Z-mount camera for the purpose of reviewing Z-mount lenses, because more keep coming out. But the again, that’s me telling you how to spend your money, so…
I’ll be honest, I was looking forward to you reviewing the 58 0.95 and comparing to the 58 1.2, which I assume you have used, if not owned
Wow, what a bummer. My D750’s are getting long in the tooth and I’m shooting more video. I really wanted the Z6II to be the answer. Ken you have not steered me wrong yet on either lens or camera recommendations but I think I’m going to have to rent the z6II and see for myself. If it doesn’t work I’ll pick up the D850, hopefully the auto focusing will be much better. Really disappointed right now. One question though. Did you test the camera with any of the Tamron G2 lenses?
well if you want it, why not get it? im not standing in anyones way of happiness, but yes the D850 is a better camera, but not for video
@@KenTheoriaApophasis Yeah, I got that. If video was my only concern I would jump on it without hesitation. I love my 750’s and want to move to the next level. Thanks T. I appreciate the follow up. Is it safe to assume that you didn’t test with any Tamron Glass?
@@garrycore I had the Tamron 70-200 mm f/2.8 G2 and used it on the Z6 when I went to the Galapagos last year. It worked great until recently. The focus started to be sluggish, misses a lot, and sometimes not working at all. I sold it and got the Z version. It was night and day, but so is the price.
@@ThePinoyAggie Thank you George. I actually reached out to Tamron directly and they told me that the lens worked perfectly after updating firmware on the Z6 and that they will test with the Z6II to confirm compatibility. They do expect it to continue to function satisfactorily.
@@garrycore thank you for the info.
How would you compare it to the d500?
That was the question I was going to ask, so please Ken can you put our curiosity to bed. I photograph Wildlife mainly and my main camera is a D500 so I'd also like to know how Ken compares the Z6 ll to the D500.
Each to their own opinion, I have no objections to what you is saying for the simple reason I wont be having one! that's a lot of money to spend on something just to take pictures with! Thanks for your thoughts or should i say facts!
Why don't you compare z6 II with an equivalent peer from Sony/Canon and make adjustments for price . Why comparing to d850. D850 at that price can't do many things that z6 can, videos for main.. so you are not fair, you may think you are.. is coming from your grudge towards Nikon or positive bias to Fuji..