@@nik-ev3eh That is your opinion and you are still allowed to have one and express it, but it is funny that our so called elected representative are unwilling to debate with an opinion that is counter to their own. If they are so sure that point of view is 100% correct then surely they would defeat an opinion that is counter to that, rather than walk out playing silly political games. A bit like children sticking their fingers in their ears going Nar nar can't hear you.
Strange how he is not so tough on the Labour MPs hen they call the opposition scum and other choice names! Thought that was totally against Parliamentary law as well. But Raynor and rest of their fish wife MPs got away with it!
@@audreyblack8629 What's worse in your eyes? Breaking the rules of the democratic process in order to further your own political goals, or breaking the rules of civil discourse to criticise those who treat democracy as an inconvenience?
She deserved much more than a minor talking to but the speaker doesn't have any teeth to deal with narcissistic upstarts. For me she should have had a 3 month suspension from parliament but I don't think there is a mechanism for this 😮😮😮
Here’s the crazy thing - the Tories themselves are a batty party for many reasons but they have unquestionably produced the best House Speakers in recent history. Speakers who have then gone and taken their own party to task lmao
2k laws repealed by the end of 2023???? I don't trust that this gov't has meticulously reviewed all 2k EU laws to reject them. The next G. Election cannot come soon enough
It's wonderful to see Lindsey Hoyle doing his job for once and speaking up for Parliament in an impartial way. Parliament has been so devalued. I hope Hoyle continues in this vein.
They're all failures and sloganeering pipsqueaks. Look at the steep decline of this country. The entire establishment is corrupt and useless. The media and the left and right thinktanks are all part of this mess. The entire political class is incompetent. Time to start seeing them as the enemy of the generality of this nation.
You need to understand that this happening is not the system trying to correct itself, it's them working EXACTLY as intended. It's a farce. It's for show.
There needs to be a mechanism for the Speaker of the House to refer ministers to the standards committee directly for investigation when they have broken the rules of the house. Especially when as in this case there is absolutely no remorse or contrition in fact she seems to consider it all a joke despite the Speakers clear admonishment of her. She is yet another total disgrace who holds Parliament in contempt. Maybe an 11 day suspension and a recall petition would teach her some respect.
Just ensure any such leaks are effectively considered the same as subjudice and the consequence is that there can be no further progress of the bill in HoC within the current Parliament.
Completely agree with this. Not answering the question asked should also be seen as a dereliction of duty to the house, as especially when the questions asked should be on behalf of the people they serve!!
What do you expect from a tory minister? This tory government has no morals, ethics, scruples or standards. It will always be “one rule for us and another for everyone else”.
How DARE she imply that the only issue was his "satisfaction", making it sound like a petty personal dispute, when they were in fact flagrantly flouting the procedures of Parliament. Blatant gaslighting and manipulation of the narrative. How can we stand by while such shit happens, and all the Speaker can do is throw a fit and continue as if nothing happened?
@@deankeith830 Foreign Commonwealth Office Document 30/1048 Lord Kilmuirs Report for Heath. regarding Heath Treasonously joining EEC ALL GOVTS from 1972 to present Being Complicit in it & attempting to RATIFY the fact are Guilty of Treason , Then under Common Law Misprision of Treason Failing to Inform of Any Treasons committed or Threatened by Others ,or of Attempting to Rescue Any Traitor from Justice. 2 CHARGES of TREASON so far.
Astonishing arrogance of this woman is disgraceful!!! Anyone flagrantly breaking rules in such an obvious way showing absolutely no contrition whatsoever deserves the severest punishment possible!!
@@stevenroland147 Sorry to disappoint you, don’t want anyone physically tortured, so your gonna have to get your kicks from the pay as you go lines I’m sure your already very familiar with,” I’ve been a naughty boy”. “Nanny spank me harder” 😉😂😂😂😂😂
It's not for the speaker to be the arbiter of lying, if that was the case it would cause chaos as he could just call anyone a liar and their ruling would be absolute each time... The point of the speaker is to be a non-partisan moderator and manage to the House.
He's unable to do so for front benchers IIRC, especially the front bencher who is taking questions on behalf of the government, unless there is a suitable replacement (?)
The (then) Speaker and Tory MP John Bercow was harsher to the Tory party than Hoyle! Yes, Speakers are supposed to be impartial, but Hoyle is awful! He lets the Govt front and back benches get away with so much
@Zero I think Alex meant throw them out the chamber for the day. There's no real reprimand, so they keep doing it. This is at least the 3rd time this has happened in the last year
@@0Zero_ NO, he can order the Government to bring to the House a QUALIFIED member who CAN answer questions while THROWING out Ms Arrogance for 24 hours, i.e. SUSPENDING HER. Having a government spokesperson removed each and every time this happens will lead to a change in attitude and somewhat of a Reshuffle. This can be sorted by a GENERAL E:ECTION. A Vote of No Confidence BUT Keir Starmer is FRIT
I don't like the Tories, but it's funny you're attacking the women of colour rather than people like Boris Johnson or the worse White males in the Cabinet.
Sadly, I don’t think this will actually make any change in her, nor other Tory ministers when introducing more changes/rules/laws going forward. They will continue to do exactly what they want, how they want and when they want - and just take anything the Speaker may say as a minor irritant to be ignored.
I wouldn’t even call her horrible, just shockingly incompetent. She never seems to be able to get a grasp of what her jobs responsibilities are. I truly believe she is the best of example of people not knowing who they are voting for
Regrettably, the Speaker only has himself to blame that this misbegotten "government" treats the chair with such contempt. He has let them get away with outrageous behaviour for far too long. It is good to see him finally express his outrage and hopefully this will give him the impetus to stand up for the rights of the House more often.
Well said M100. He's been so inconsistent and generally quite weak in dealing with this nonsense. All this threatening to send MPs for a cup of tea but never actually do so just empowers people to act even worse. If only he started to slam down hard on that, ejecting them from the chamber, suspending proceedings...and having a proper showdown in private. This should be across all parties...but so much of the terrible attitude seems to come from the Tory benches.
This is why the general population feel that they can say and do anything they like at any time, when they see our government leaders ignoring traditional rules and behaviours.
@@judewarner1536 so the government isn't demonising protesters and people on strike? Or attempting in any way to make these things harder? Ok, it's not factually correct to say we aren't allowed to protest, but a lot of people probably said the same thing in Russia 15 years ago. Try holding an anti government protest there. I don't think it's a delusional comment, rather something of concern we should all be paying close attention too. Of course, if you disagree you can always protest😊
@Dan G There are ALWAYS Tories speaking out against protesters and strikers, I've made a particular study of Conservative attempts to hold back progressive legislation from the 1807 Abolition of the Slave Trade to the 1999 National Minimum Wage. The point here is that ultimately, they have ALWAYS failed to stem the tide of progress. If they couldn't do it in the Victorian Era, they certainly won't succeed in the 21st century. The 200+ history of weakening Conservatism suggests that your fears, which may seem supported by the words of a few current reactionary Tories, are defeatist, and I say it again, appear delusional in a longer term perspective. "This too shall pass!"
I was shocked that the Secretary of State would speak in such a condescending tone to the Speaker and to the Members of Parliament in general... I wonder what she thought would happen...
I am sure that that's how the government thinks about Parliament, and talks about it when nobody is around. As a body with no real power that is to be manipulated after it has put them into power. Of course since Parliament technically has the upper hand, this only works so long as they don't get too transparent about it, which is where her mistake lay: openly show the disdain that her in-group, the government, which she is probably struggling to be accepted by, feel for Parliament. I don't think it's an accident that this happened to a woman, and that it happened to a woman who is probably experiencing racism within the government. Unlike the typical white male government minister, she has to fight on two fronts.
Arrogance off the scale as per usual with this minister! She has an enormous majority of over 27K which pretty much says all one needs to know about the electorate who put her into parliament!
@Adrian Evans. You arrogant sod! Who are you to criticise the electorate? Whether you agree or not with Badenoch you are not the arbiter of electoral choice. Get off your high horse before you fall off.
That is what is called leadership structure Mr speaker .. correcting and accepting the correction at same time good work Mr speaker and the Ms sectrey of state.
How many times has this exact thing happened from the tories, and all he does is give them a little speech like an angry geography teacher, then does nothing about it
@@slaterslater5944 The problem is that most of the House rules don't have a specific enforceable penalty, and when they do the Speaker rarely has the power to enforce them. The whole system is built around the idea that MPs are honourable individuals (hence the title) who intend to follow the rules by default, and the Speaker is more there to remind them of those rules so that they or other members can take appropriate action when violations occur. If MPs and especially the PM have no intention of following the rules there's very little that the Speaker or anyone else can do about it.
Sadly the damage this lot have done will be irreversible by the time they go, they will make sure of that whilst sitting on their millions they have paid themselves throughout their 13 years of lies, law breaking and corruption!! 😡
@@lesleywright2823 very well said and sadly true ,they will never change it's a repetitive thing Tory rats are in 12 yrs or so ,that's how long it takes for there disgusting ways to get through ,by then like you said they have done so much damage never mind the spin ,it's so hard for labour to do everything and put things rite then it's nearly 5 yrs by the time there improvements ,show through let's hope it's different this time and let's hope our people see sense ,for long enough this time and give labour at least two terms if not three in office ,like they do the Tory rats what they got away with in the pandemic, should mean labour get two terms I hope so people's memories stay good with how grim the torys ,have been this time and there getting worse by the decade ,people must keep them out for a long time if they had any honour at all they would call a general election now .
@@mickharrison9004 tories have no honour, they are in it totally for themselves, the disgraceful way they haemorrhaged billions of tax payers money through “covid” and the thousands of unnecessary deaths of the elderly, my dear mum would still be here today were it not for their lies, I hate what this government are doing to us all, the most frustrating out of all of this is none of them are ever held accountable!! Sickening
Good Lord ! The Arrogance of these characters is beyond comprehension. The contempt that they hold elected Members of Parliament , The House of Commons, the General Public and , possibly most importantly , Democracy itself , is astonishing. She was literally laughing whilst giving her statement directly after being rebuked by the Speaker . We are truly hurtling into the abyss of authoritarianism.
@@Omnicient.Ok. You stick with what you heard, but next time, wash your ears out, and get a better understanding of how the relationship between goverment and Parliament works in the disemination of policy with regard to who gets to hear what and when.
You see and hear what you want to. I detected none of that but he was patronising and condescending to her; she a model of good manners which showed him to be a manic bully. He shouldn't be behaving like this, MPs yes, but not speaker of the house; he should show more restraint and decorum.
This woman is so disrespectful to the Speaker...she speaks with arrogance and contempt and makes me ashamed to be a British woman. I had, in the years passed, admired KB MP but has she just trashed her own reputation? Respect is earned and her reputation is as good as her last performance which is seriously flawed.
In my life especially in business the worst most arrogant people I ever met were always the ones who were least able in their roles. I once had a young raw bank manager (yes his title was manager although he was barely in his early 20's) who told me he knew more about my business than I did. My partner and I stood gobsmacked then without a word turned and started to walk to the door. He asked us really arrogantly where we thought we were going, if we wanted a banking facility we had better sit down, at which point we both laughed then left the room. We went to a different bank and later found out this young arrogant man had been sacked. I do hope the Tories get the same treatment.
Maybe government ministers including the PM will be cautioned by the speaker when the do NOT answer MPs questions. Democracy is under threat we have to be very careful.
No we don't need to be very careful becaue WE have no say over any of it. The time for being careful has long gone, and we blew up. We (not including me) voted for the Tories to "take back control" so that's what they're now doing - taking back control for themselves and the bosses of companies who donate to their party, whilst taking control away from the public by removing their right to protest, take strike action, and who knows what else. I guess we will all find out soon enough what basic rights we have all lost.
@@kumoryuuichi I was even paying attention, yes. And as far as I know, that is the first and only time he has ever mentioned it to the PM - after countless PMQs. The speaker does not "insist", as I wrote. He lets the PM say whatever he wants when he is asked questions, over and over again.
It's so tragic. She {like so many of her colleagues) seems incapable of absorbing a rebuke like that and showing any humility or contrition. It feels to me like a trained thing as so many Tories display similar patterns of behaviour. The people doing the training are as nasty and destructive as the likes of Badenoch, etc. What an awful self-serving culture.
It's all well and good giving them bollockings ...but theres no consequences to their actions .nothing changes and they get away with it everytime .it's a game .weak !!
This gives off the same vibes as "You might be Prime Minister of this country but I am the Speaker of this House..." He's doing a great job after Bercow and I totally stand by him 😌
Lyndsay's a great character. I watch Prime Minister's Questions (PMQs) every Wednesday at 12.00 noon. And Lyndsay controls the whole shebang with great authority. An absolute asset to Westminster!!!
Never seen this before. He never called Boris Johnson to account but rather enabled him to avoid giving answers at PMQ so that it became PM not answering questions. He even threw an SNP MP out for correctly calling Johnson out as a liar.
I'm horrified that over 2,000 EU laws are being cancelled by the end of 2023 - bc this incompetent gov't cannot have meticulously reviewed and decided on what is best for the British public. The Tory's last 12 months in gov't will be governed by knee-jerk reactions and desperate measures.
Sam de Goeij All EU Laws Cease to Apply or Exist once leaving State leaves EU Membership. there is a proviso Leaving States can continue to use Laws it wants to , until revoked or adopted . as written in Lisbon Treaty Article 50 TEU.
As a Motorcyclist I view the tearing up of EU standards and a minimising of regulations with real trepidation. Bike gear is about to get either a lot more expensive, less safe or both.
What an outrageous contemptible and contemptuous comment from Badenoch. "I'm sorry our sequencing was not to your satisfaction." It's really very difficult to have a functioning democracy when people like Badenoch do not respect the structures and processes when it doesn't suit them. They bleat about monarchy and UK laws and sovereignty, but treat parliament with utter contempt.
It is totally unacceptable that we have had successive mates before state governments. From top to bottom, telling friends at papers about government buissness before telling parliament, to preferencially giving put contracts to tory peers and donors. It shows an utter contempt for our democratic institutions.
Speaker loses his temper ... and this his authority. Time for a Tory Speaker after two Labour Speakers in a row (Bercow was clearly a Labour Speaker despite his previous political affiliation).
@@peterebel7899 All of them, they're all corrupt, they're supposed to be serving us, as the speaker said, instead they get elected and they serve themselves. Nothing but parasites.
This is the first time I have seen the Speaker of the House tear into the Tories like that. It's about time that he did this because they've got away with too much. This wouldn't have happened on John Bercow's or Betty Boothroyd's watches.
Bercow was a narcissist bully himself. Glad he didn't get peerage. He didn't act like the speaker of the house. He acted like he owned the country. Referred to people in the Parliament as "those in a sedentary position". Power certainly got to his head. Now must be spending days reminiscing on his bullying memories hopefully with a smidgen of sadness and regret.
@@STM2811 I'm afraid I am going to disagree with you about Bercow. He controlled the house well and pushed back when the PM at the time lied and illegally prorogued parliament for 6 weeks. That is the sole reason he didn't get a peerage because he held the government to account.
@@neilbowers6956 Of course, not everything about a person is bad. But an independent enquiry corroborated claims about his bullying and lying behaviour. And he's banned for life from entering parliament buildings. Plus, despite being the speaker he wasn't unbiased since he was a closet anti-brexiteer. Again as a human, one can't completely avoid this, but he must have stepped down. He once drove a car which had a pro-euro sticker on and he then said the car belonged to his wife?????He was driving it and for heaven's sake, he was the speaker of the house of commons not some private businessman. But all that notwithstanding, his treatment of parliament like school kids was reprehensible. He used language that was extremely elitist simply because he was in a chair. There is no way such a character could be honoured with peerage.
@sreeT you know rhe saying, play the ball, not the man? Well, here we are talking about the task of speaker, not personality. And to me, Bercow did a much better job, and as regards to being anti-brexit, there again he was simply against the empty rhetoric of most of the brexiteers. When they spoke rubbish, he took them to task. That's his job.
@@garyrowe58 This can go on for a while. As I said, he was a proven bully and banned from parliament. That is a pretty humiliating end to a 10 year long stint. The character does come into question at some point. So many people who get knighthood, later got stripped of it when they did shady things afterwards. Honours and awards undeniably assume impeccable character. When the character is in question, it would be very difficult to justify asking the Monarchy to honour the person regardless of the professional merit. His duty is to enforce good conduct and discipline (oh the irony!!!). He cannot adjudge the veracity of statements made (that is opposition's job).
Where do the Tories find these people ? She's in total contempt of the House of Commons, and furthermore the Government have no mandate to replace important legislation on employee rights , health / safety and environmental laws, at the whim of ministers and officials. These are the lashing out death throws of a moribund moraly bankrupt Government. Hoyle was weak as usual. Eleanor Liang would do a much better job as Speaker - a Tory to keep the Tories in check, like the Commons standards committee on Alexander Johnson
We need some laws in this country where the public can call for the government to be dissolved due to a complete failure of said government...which we are having to endure now.
I wouldn't say "any", but he certainly found his balls with a black, lady, Tory. Never saw him like that when Johnson or Rees-Mogg were literally taking the piss out of him to his face..... wonder why? 🤔
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Lindsay is a deaf, partisan, nonce bully, the irony.
Shame he has no voice when Andrew Bridgen has been speaking, these people in this room display there own egos not the will of the people
@@2tearsinabucket521 bridgen is a loony,very little point,just giving him publicity.
@@nik-ev3eh That is your opinion and you are still allowed to have one and express it, but it is funny that our so called elected representative are unwilling to debate with an opinion that is counter to their own. If they are so sure that point of view is 100% correct then surely they would defeat an opinion that is counter to that, rather than walk out playing silly political games. A bit like children sticking their fingers in their ears going Nar nar can't hear you.
@@mebymyself2816 they won't debate cos they lyin
A non apology, then decided to continue to be flippant before waffling a bunch of lies and mistruths
Indeed. Her attitude after the Hoyle rebuke was possibly worse than beforehand! Just astonishing arrogance and ignorance.
Grade A Tory impunity
Tory textbook.
The contempt these tories have for our democracy is almost as much as the contempt I have for them
Well put
Strange how he is not so tough on the Labour MPs hen they call the opposition scum and other choice names! Thought that was totally against Parliamentary law as well. But Raynor and rest of their fish wife MPs got away with it!
@@audreyblack8629 What's worse in your eyes? Breaking the rules of the democratic process in order to further your own political goals, or breaking the rules of civil discourse to criticise those who treat democracy as an inconvenience?
@@audreyblack8629 there there never mind don't cry dear it'll make your makeup run😊
@@audreyblack8629 thats the best you got? :D
She is always sarcastic and deserved what she got
There were no consequences to her actions. She doesnot care what he says
@@irwinsaltzman979 Always happens with majority governments.
@@irwinsaltzman979 Exactly. The Speaker is just a minor annoyance to her and the rest of this motley shower.
She deserved much more than a minor talking to but the speaker doesn't have any teeth to deal with narcissistic upstarts. For me she should have had a 3 month suspension from parliament but I don't think there is a mechanism for this 😮😮😮
@@anne-mariemarshall as MP she is a liar and a cheat, my mother called her Badenough
It’s amazing how she can apologize and simultaneously have a smug condescending smirk on her face.
Not that amazing.... All Tories do it.
Nigerian by any chance?
@@terenceburchett6122
No,
English, born and raised.
She is black , what do you expect , Nigerians are full of anti white hate
@@martinb1659 she is as English as I am Nigerian
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This is truly vintage Parliamentary tradition. A Speaker who does not mince words and tells a Minister who is in control in Parliament. Bravo UK
Here’s the crazy thing - the Tories themselves are a batty party for many reasons but they have unquestionably produced the best House Speakers in recent history.
Speakers who have then gone and taken their own party to task lmao
She is totally out of her depth along with most of this shocking parliament.
2k laws repealed by the end of 2023????
I don't trust that this gov't has meticulously reviewed all 2k EU laws to reject them.
The next G. Election cannot come soon enough
I think you might mean the Government rather than parliament - plenty of decent MPs, just very few of them tory, and none of them in Government
@@rl3799 Unfortunately so
Parliament ? What did Caroline Lucas do wrong ?
Clear as mud
It's wonderful to see Lindsey Hoyle doing his job for once and speaking up for Parliament in an impartial way. Parliament has been so devalued. I hope Hoyle continues in this vein.
Did you say impartial? Keep an eye open for if he treats Labour ministers like that if and when they come to power after the next election.
They're all failures and sloganeering pipsqueaks. Look at the steep decline of this country. The entire establishment is corrupt and useless. The media and the left and right thinktanks are all part of this mess.
The entire political class is incompetent.
Time to start seeing them as the enemy of the generality of this nation.
Well he’s been wet on the tories so it’s only fair that he’s wet on labour when they get in
Shame he never did it with Bodger maybe he feels safer ripping into a woman.
he's let the Tories get away with barefaced lies so many times. not impressed
Getting a bit bored of this happening almost every single time! More action needs to be taken to prevent it from happening.
6months in prison for breaches like this. Won’t happen much after that
that speaker is useless. it's almost as if he's happy to and wants tories to act like this
@@bothi00 He hasn't got the power to stop it, that's the problem
You need to understand that this happening is not the system trying to correct itself, it's them working EXACTLY as intended.
It's a farce. It's for show.
Vote them out.
Wow! She is pleased to come to the House at her convenience and informs the House as she sees fit at the moment she sees fit.
The standards of this government continue to sink even further.
When you think they can’t go lower they manage to do it.
The bar is now so low it represents a trip hazard, and the tories have revoked the law that mandate a warning sign.
There needs to be a mechanism for the Speaker of the House to refer ministers to the standards committee directly for investigation when they have broken the rules of the house. Especially when as in this case there is absolutely no remorse or contrition in fact she seems to consider it all a joke despite the Speakers clear admonishment of her. She is yet another total disgrace who holds Parliament in contempt. Maybe an 11 day suspension and a recall petition would teach her some respect.
Just ensure any such leaks are effectively considered the same as subjudice and the consequence is that there can be no further progress of the bill in HoC within the current Parliament.
didnt that get disbanded by bozo?
I want to know before theses fools.
It's not state secrets.
The attitude on that treacherous n atci.
He needs taking out back.
Completely agree with this. Not answering the question asked should also be seen as a dereliction of duty to the house, as especially when the questions asked should be on behalf of the people they serve!!
What do you expect from a tory minister? This tory government has no morals, ethics, scruples or standards. It will always be “one rule for us and another for everyone else”.
How DARE she imply that the only issue was his "satisfaction", making it sound like a petty personal dispute, when they were in fact flagrantly flouting the procedures of Parliament. Blatant gaslighting and manipulation of the narrative. How can we stand by while such shit happens, and all the Speaker can do is throw a fit and continue as if nothing happened?
as they've all committed TREASON . why worry.
@@douglastodd1947Go on, how have they committed treason? I hope it’s good, I could do with a laugh.
@@hailhydra7959 this will be a good un can hardly wait
@@deankeith830 Foreign Commonwealth Office Document 30/1048 Lord Kilmuirs Report for Heath. regarding Heath Treasonously joining EEC ALL GOVTS from 1972 to present Being Complicit in it & attempting to RATIFY the fact are Guilty of Treason , Then under Common Law Misprision of Treason Failing to Inform of Any Treasons committed or Threatened by Others ,or of Attempting to Rescue Any Traitor from Justice. 2 CHARGES of TREASON so far.
@@hailhydra7959
You must be a fanatical remainer🤣🤣🤣
Her belligerence and lack of respect for the House is akin to that of Johnson.
She isn't known as Badenoch the bitch for nothing!
May be a stretch, Boris is unmatched in that regard.
They both have that absolute, unshakable, natural-born narcissism.
And taught by Gove. Good on Hoyle. For once.
She'll go far
About time this was pointed out,.things are definitely getting out of hand regarding our laws 😣😣
Astonishing arrogance of this woman is disgraceful!!!
Anyone flagrantly breaking rules in such an obvious way showing absolutely no contrition whatsoever deserves the severest punishment possible!!
Yaaaaaaaaawn 😴😴🤡😴😴
All part of her "culture"
Steve dawg......likewise!
What would that punishment look like Julie?
@@stevenroland147 Sorry to disappoint you, don’t want anyone physically tortured, so your gonna have to get your kicks from the pay as you go lines I’m sure your already very familiar with,” I’ve been a naughty boy”. “Nanny spank me harder”
😉😂😂😂😂😂
Shame Hoyle isn't so quick at calling out Prime Ministers who are clearly telling lies to the house.
His job is about form, procedure, and structure of debate, not really about the substance of th
Hoyle's backbone has a strict quota [and limit] when/how/at whom it can be used....
It's not for the speaker to be the arbiter of lying, if that was the case it would cause chaos as he could just call anyone a liar and their ruling would be absolute each time... The point of the speaker is to be a non-partisan moderator and manage to the House.
@@clivecosta-correa2102 lol
He can't.
He's not good enough though, he should be chucking them out at this point. The tories are acting like children.
If I had kids who behaved like the Tories, I'd disinherit them.
He's unable to do so for front benchers IIRC, especially the front bencher who is taking questions on behalf of the government, unless there is a suitable replacement (?)
The (then) Speaker and Tory MP John Bercow was harsher to the Tory party than Hoyle! Yes, Speakers are supposed to be impartial, but Hoyle is awful! He lets the Govt front and back benches get away with so much
@Zero I think Alex meant throw them out the chamber for the day. There's no real reprimand, so they keep doing it. This is at least the 3rd time this has happened in the last year
@@0Zero_ NO, he can order the Government to bring to the House a QUALIFIED member who CAN answer questions while THROWING out Ms Arrogance for 24 hours, i.e. SUSPENDING HER. Having a government spokesperson removed each and every time this happens will lead to a change in attitude and somewhat of a Reshuffle. This can be sorted by a GENERAL E:ECTION. A Vote of No Confidence BUT Keir Starmer is FRIT
The arrogance of that women. These Tories are beneath contempt . No respect at all for rules yet want to abuse others that don’t toe their party line.
It is now Tory policy, it’s not some slip, or even her personal arrogance (which is sufficient in any case).
Was that a woman? I thought it was a man .
@left_blank I am not sure what that has to do with follow the rules of their position once they get there.
Seems to be an unrelated conflation.
@left_blank the mps choose him, well done for showing you know sweet FA about it all tho.
@@yt.personal.identification hes a tory simp clearly.
Her snobbishness and contempt against the House speaks louder than her voice.
Badenoch & Braverman both treat Parliament with contempt, the snark is deliberate.
and the speaker just lets them
Those two are mere amateurs. Nobody did snark as well as Priti Patel, she was also the master of the evil smirk or self satisfaction.
@Warren Wilding and her defense was that the smirk was just her normal face 😂😂😂
Jacob Rees-Mogg is the same and constantly snarks. His face is a solidified sneer against everyone he deems beneath him, which is almost everyone.
I don't like the Tories, but it's funny you're attacking the women of colour rather than people like Boris Johnson or the worse White males in the Cabinet.
This has happened several times. Unless the speaker's going to do something about it, nothing will change. He just gives warning after warning.
I'm not sure what powers he has to actually do anything beyond reprimanding them though.
@Never repeats That's what I thought too. I don't think he has a lot of options available.
What do you want him to do about it? They are ELECTED. He can't ban them from coming to the commons
All he can do is tell them not to do it... He can't do more than that.
They'll carry on doing it anyway...
He doesn't have any other power.
It is nice though to see that horror Badenach being put in her place. Horrible, arrogant woman.
Not half as clever as she thinks she is, the arrogance of public school teaching.
Not as horrible as that slag Rayner or Abbott 😏
Depressingly, Badenoch barely scrapes into the Top 10 of horrible, arrogant MPs in the current Tory party.
Sadly, I don’t think this will actually make any change in her, nor other Tory ministers when introducing more changes/rules/laws going forward. They will continue to do exactly what they want, how they want and when they want - and just take anything the Speaker may say as a minor irritant to be ignored.
I wouldn’t even call her horrible, just shockingly incompetent. She never seems to be able to get a grasp of what her jobs responsibilities are.
I truly believe she is the best of example of people not knowing who they are voting for
Nice catch
No respect for the House
Regrettably, the Speaker only has himself to blame that this misbegotten "government" treats the chair with such contempt. He has let them get away with outrageous behaviour for far too long. It is good to see him finally express his outrage and hopefully this will give him the impetus to stand up for the rights of the House more often.
Well said M100. He's been so inconsistent and generally quite weak in dealing with this nonsense. All this threatening to send MPs for a cup of tea but never actually do so just empowers people to act even worse. If only he started to slam down hard on that, ejecting them from the chamber, suspending proceedings...and having a proper showdown in private. This should be across all parties...but so much of the terrible attitude seems to come from the Tory benches.
They are all jobsworths in it for themselves
WE, the people, have let them get away with it for far too long! It's time to remove the whole ruddy corrupt LOT of them and start again.
@@starmersbarber He only attacks PoC.
it's a wee bit shutting the gate after the horse has bolted ,don't you think. How long's he had the chair ?
The arrogance of this government is unbelievable
its come to be totally believable, par for the course, with this appalling 'government'.
Arrogant, incompetent charlatans
Some splendid, high quality harrumphing from the Speaker.
This is why the general population feel that they can say and do anything they like at any time, when they see our government leaders ignoring traditional rules and behaviours.
Wtf are you talking about? We're not even allowed to protest
@Adam Browne That's a delusional comment. I live in Westminster, there are daily protests in Parliament Square, every day a different cause.
@@adambrowne01 or strike
@@judewarner1536 so the government isn't demonising protesters and people on strike? Or attempting in any way to make these things harder?
Ok, it's not factually correct to say we aren't allowed to protest, but a lot of people probably said the same thing in Russia 15 years ago. Try holding an anti government protest there.
I don't think it's a delusional comment, rather something of concern we should all be paying close attention too.
Of course, if you disagree you can always protest😊
@Dan G There are ALWAYS Tories speaking out against protesters and strikers, I've made a particular study of Conservative attempts to hold back progressive legislation from the 1807 Abolition of the Slave Trade to the 1999 National Minimum Wage. The point here is that ultimately, they have ALWAYS failed to stem the tide of progress. If they couldn't do it in the Victorian Era, they certainly won't succeed in the 21st century. The 200+ history of weakening Conservatism suggests that your fears, which may seem supported by the words of a few current reactionary Tories, are defeatist, and I say it again, appear delusional in a longer term perspective. "This too shall pass!"
I was shocked that the Secretary of State would speak in such a condescending tone to the Speaker and to the Members of Parliament in general... I wonder what she thought would happen...
I'd have been shocked if she hadn't. She not the first to be rebuked for this and taken it with bad grace, and probably won't be the last.
Stop being racist
How many times has this happened? And will happen in the future until The Speaker is given some real powers to sanction ministers and government.
I am sure that that's how the government thinks about Parliament, and talks about it when nobody is around. As a body with no real power that is to be manipulated after it has put them into power. Of course since Parliament technically has the upper hand, this only works so long as they don't get too transparent about it, which is where her mistake lay: openly show the disdain that her in-group, the government, which she is probably struggling to be accepted by, feel for Parliament.
I don't think it's an accident that this happened to a woman, and that it happened to a woman who is probably experiencing racism within the government. Unlike the typical white male government minister, she has to fight on two fronts.
@@johaquila Why do you have to bring misogyny and racism into this?
This had nothing to do with her sex or colour.
Arrogance off the scale as per usual with this minister! She has an enormous majority of over 27K which pretty much says all one needs to know about the electorate who put her into parliament!
@Adrian Evans.
You arrogant sod!
Who are you to criticise the electorate? Whether you agree or not with Badenoch you are not the arbiter of electoral choice.
Get off your high horse before you fall off.
Yup, the electorate are clueless muppets, therein lies the problem and these Tories are abusing that to their advantage.
Saffron Walden is a charming dormitory for bankers and other City folk. She represents them as they would expect
She has huge numbers of fascist constituents, despite the well-kept gardens and cream teas.
F**king hell, I don’t believe that.
The sequencing they chose, in other words they fully intended to leak to the press before announcing it to the house.
She cannot even stand up straight
That is what is called leadership structure Mr speaker .. correcting and accepting the correction at same time good work Mr speaker and the Ms sectrey of state.
Lot of hot air, there are no consequence and then they’re laughing about it.
Ah bless. The Speaker thinking we still live in a democracy
Amen
An elected dictatorship
😂😂😂
She takes arrogance to a new level. Could you imagine what she would be like if she was competent.
Role on next general elections 🎉
Competent people are usually less arrogant.
Only idiots are ..
She wasnt expecting that , nasty horrible woman ,!
No. Her ego would not allow that.
Then she probably wouldn’t be arrogant
Well said Sir
Bang on..brilliant.
How many times has this exact thing happened from the tories, and all he does is give them a little speech like an angry geography teacher, then does nothing about it
He can't do much about it. I think they should hand out suspensions without pay, three strikes and you lose your pay AND pension.
@@slaterslater5944 he kicks anyone out who calls tories liars. which is breaking same rules.
@@kanedNunable
If that's the case, you have a point.
Be fair,he does stamp his feet!
@@slaterslater5944 The problem is that most of the House rules don't have a specific enforceable penalty, and when they do the Speaker rarely has the power to enforce them. The whole system is built around the idea that MPs are honourable individuals (hence the title) who intend to follow the rules by default, and the Speaker is more there to remind them of those rules so that they or other members can take appropriate action when violations occur. If MPs and especially the PM have no intention of following the rules there's very little that the Speaker or anyone else can do about it.
The Speaker should also hold the PM to account when he doesn't answer questions but responds with a jibe at the opposition leader.
How many times has he had to rebuke Government Ministers about the same thing?
A few times, but the Tory government ministers still keep doing it.
Once should have been enough you’d have thought
They'll just keep doing it because there is no punishment
Good for showing it all; so we know full context; for a change.
When evil people lose their grip on power their true colours are there to be seen in the light of truth
The Tories are making circumnavigating parliamentary process the norm. That is the level of contempt they have for democracy and Parliament itself.
both party's are as bad - contempt for democracy is out of control NWO in play time to hunker down
What do you expect from a party that somehow managed to lose an election they had rigged.
Thank god Commie Corbyn and Diane Abacus never got near having a sniff of power.
Labour just as bad - invented mass g- immigration. BTW old man in this vid is pure substitute teacher vibes - idiot
*inserts tony blairs 1998s policices*
Tell me more...
This is the consequence of being an ineffectual joke, they know he's gonna do nothing.
It's like a teacher threatening a class with detention but doing nothing.
These Tories are totally out of control and very disrespectful. I can't wait for them to be booted out.
Well said .
Sadly the damage this lot have done will be irreversible by the time they go, they will make sure of that whilst sitting on their millions they have paid themselves throughout their 13 years of lies, law breaking and corruption!! 😡
@@lesleywright2823 very well said and sadly true ,they will never change it's a repetitive thing Tory rats are in 12 yrs or so ,that's how long it takes for there disgusting ways to get through ,by then like you said they have done so much damage never mind the spin ,it's so hard for labour to do everything and put things rite then it's nearly 5 yrs by the time there improvements ,show through let's hope it's different this time and let's hope our people see sense ,for long enough this time and give labour at least two terms if not three in office ,like they do the Tory rats what they got away with in the pandemic, should mean labour get two terms I hope so people's memories stay good with how grim the torys ,have been this time and there getting worse by the decade ,people must keep them out for a long time if they had any honour at all they would call a general election now .
@@mickharrison9004 tories have no honour, they are in it totally for themselves, the disgraceful way they haemorrhaged billions of tax payers money through “covid” and the thousands of unnecessary deaths of the elderly, my dear mum would still be here today were it not for their lies, I hate what this government are doing to us all, the most frustrating out of all of this is none of them are ever held accountable!! Sickening
Bravo! If only my own Speaker has the same gumption!!!
Absolutely shocking. Should be thrown out for that!
The speaker of the house needs do this more, keep all politicians feet to the fire.
We had enough of the Berc. doing that.
Good Lord !
The Arrogance of these characters is beyond comprehension.
The contempt that they hold elected Members of Parliament , The House of Commons, the General Public and , possibly most importantly , Democracy itself , is astonishing.
She was literally laughing whilst giving her statement directly after being rebuked by the Speaker .
We are truly hurtling into the abyss of authoritarianism.
She should have he whip taken from her she tested the whole thing as a joke. What a nasty piece of work. Whoever voted for her in the first place?
The pure sarcasm in her voice was cutting, no wonder he jumped down her throat.
@@Omnicient.Ok. You stick with what you heard, but next time, wash your ears out, and get a better understanding of how the relationship between goverment and Parliament works in the disemination of policy with regard to who gets to hear what and when.
You see and hear what you want to. I detected none of that but he was patronising and condescending to her; she a model of good manners which showed him to be a manic bully. He shouldn't be behaving like this, MPs yes, but not speaker of the house; he should show more restraint and decorum.
@@Omnicient. Thanks.
This woman is so disrespectful to the Speaker...she speaks with arrogance and contempt and makes me ashamed to be a British woman. I had, in the years passed, admired KB MP but has she just trashed her own reputation? Respect is earned and her reputation is as good as her last performance which is seriously flawed.
Well said
He’s finally putting his foot down. We’ve been waiting for this day for far too long.
In my life especially in business the worst most arrogant people I ever met were always the ones who were least able in their roles. I once had a young raw bank manager (yes his title was manager although he was barely in his early 20's) who told me he knew more about my business than I did. My partner and I stood gobsmacked then without a word turned and started to walk to the door. He asked us really arrogantly where we thought we were going, if we wanted a banking facility we had better sit down, at which point we both laughed then left the room. We went to a different bank and later found out this young arrogant man had been sacked. I do hope the Tories get the same treatment.
Maybe government ministers including the PM will be cautioned by the speaker when the do NOT answer MPs questions. Democracy is under threat we have to be very careful.
What democracy 🤔
Democracy died a long time ago
No we don't need to be very careful becaue WE have no say over any of it. The time for being careful has long gone, and we blew up. We (not including me) voted for the Tories to "take back control" so that's what they're now doing - taking back control for themselves and the bosses of companies who donate to their party, whilst taking control away from the public by removing their right to protest, take strike action, and who knows what else. I guess we will all find out soon enough what basic rights we have all lost.
This really should be required - parlement has become far to much about getting your soundbite than answering questions.
@@sabar2453 Iraq invasion of 2001 was the first sign that I'm not in a democracy
like him or loathe him bercow was far stronger and superior to this weak man. betty rip.
O dear. Hoyle is turning into Bercow.
He has a backbone after all. If only he would also insist that the PM actually answers the questions asked at prime minister's questions.
He has a backbone after all.
NO. What makes you think otherwise?
He DID. Last Wednesday's PMQs. Were you even paying attention?
@@kumoryuuichi I was even paying attention, yes. And as far as I know, that is the first and only time he has ever mentioned it to the PM - after countless PMQs. The speaker does not "insist", as I wrote. He lets the PM say whatever he wants when he is asked questions, over and over again.
Did she not hear him? Her smug response was rude and showed a lack of respect!
It's so tragic. She {like so many of her colleagues) seems incapable of absorbing a rebuke like that and showing any humility or contrition. It feels to me like a trained thing as so many Tories display similar patterns of behaviour. The people doing the training are as nasty and destructive as the likes of Badenoch, etc. What an awful self-serving culture.
It's all well and good giving them bollockings ...but theres no consequences to their actions .nothing changes and they get away with it everytime .it's a game .weak !!
This gives off the same vibes as "You might be Prime Minister of this country but I am the Speaker of this House..." He's doing a great job after Bercow and I totally stand by him 😌
Lyndsay's a great character. I watch Prime Minister's Questions (PMQs) every Wednesday at 12.00 noon. And Lyndsay controls the whole shebang with great authority. An absolute asset to Westminster!!!
Never seen this before. He never called Boris Johnson to account but rather enabled him to avoid giving answers at PMQ so that it became PM not answering questions. He even threw an SNP MP out for correctly calling Johnson out as a liar.
This is not the first time this has happened recently, get bollocked and carry on regardless.
More of this sort of thing please, Mr Speaker.
She really does not care
nice to see the speaker finally waking up!
Badenoch hasn't got a clue how to address the speaker of the House.
Everything she says about E.U laws is bs and unfounded but, she's a Brexiteer so what else to expect.
I think the word should be everything rather than nothing. I'm assuming autocabbage.
@@capt.bart.roberts4975 yes and thanks
I'm horrified that over 2,000 EU laws are being cancelled by the end of 2023 - bc this incompetent gov't cannot have meticulously reviewed and decided on what is best for the British public.
The Tory's last 12 months in gov't will be governed by knee-jerk reactions and desperate measures.
Sam de Goeij All EU Laws Cease to Apply or Exist once leaving State leaves EU Membership. there is a proviso Leaving States can continue to use Laws it wants to , until revoked or adopted . as written in Lisbon Treaty Article 50 TEU.
As a Motorcyclist I view the tearing up of EU standards and a minimising of regulations with real trepidation. Bike gear is about to get either a lot more expensive, less safe or both.
Between that and PMQ’s yesterday maybe he’s started to grow a backbone 🤞 Just needs to start doing something about it.
This is just normal behaviour is our joke of democracy in the UK now.
Madness.
Wake up, Globalisation destroyed democracy decades ago.
Democracy???
Autocracy, the parliament is redundant and waste of money.
@@peterebel7899 couldn't agree more 😢
Absolutely fantastic Mr speaker it's about time someone had a go at these scumbags ,doing what they like when they like .
Brilliant!!
She’s not sorry at all, as shown by her attitude. Though I’m surprised she bothered to turn up and do it herself.
She spoke with complete arrogance and contempt, so naturally the Tories will love her.
Lots of them probably want her as PM, as the country might still have some credibility left to lose.
Well, your right she is rubbish, but Labour would only replace her with Diane Abbot… Then God Help Britain! 😖
Looking forward to the day she stars in a "rekt" thread on 4ch for that complete arrogance and contempt.
What an outrageous contemptible and contemptuous comment from Badenoch. "I'm sorry our sequencing was not to your satisfaction." It's really very difficult to have a functioning democracy when people like Badenoch do not respect the structures and processes when it doesn't suit them. They bleat about monarchy and UK laws and sovereignty, but treat parliament with utter contempt.
Ooh no, no don't take that tone. As the secretary of state as well? Shameful.
Wet fish slap time !!😂
It is totally unacceptable that we have had successive mates before state governments. From top to bottom, telling friends at papers about government buissness before telling parliament, to preferencially giving put contracts to tory peers and donors. It shows an utter contempt for our democratic institutions.
If the UK had a democratic system.
There should be a mechanism to push the item from the days agenda when rules are ignored. Reschedule it.
Make the person leave....not continue.
Seems like it would be abusable, and we know this government will abuse anything they can.
Her arrogance is beyond belief!! Wow....
yea, now think of what she may do in your own house if she claim to be let to do what she did in that one... I mean if it would be still yours.
Speaker loses his temper ... and this his authority. Time for a Tory Speaker after two Labour Speakers in a row (Bercow was clearly a Labour Speaker despite his previous political affiliation).
Those that wear COSTUMES are ACTING upon the STAGE - Another great SHOW.
Corrupt, corrupt, Another Minister just ignoring the Rules of Parliament. Absolutely incompetent person.
Brits voted Tory rules, not rules of Parliament.
This is absolutely horrifying on so many levels.
They would be by far better off with just terminating UK's parliament.
@@peterebel7899 and its politicians.
@@byronfelson-sb2cy politicians or lobbyists?
@@peterebel7899 All of them, they're all corrupt, they're supposed to be serving us, as the speaker said, instead they get elected and they serve themselves. Nothing but parasites.
This is the first time I have seen the Speaker of the House tear into the Tories like that. It's about time that he did this because they've got away with too much.
This wouldn't have happened on John Bercow's or Betty Boothroyd's watches.
Bercow was a narcissist bully himself. Glad he didn't get peerage. He didn't act like the speaker of the house. He acted like he owned the country. Referred to people in the Parliament as "those in a sedentary position". Power certainly got to his head. Now must be spending days reminiscing on his bullying memories hopefully with a smidgen of sadness and regret.
@@STM2811 I'm afraid I am going to disagree with you about Bercow. He controlled the house well and pushed back when the PM at the time lied and illegally prorogued parliament for 6 weeks. That is the sole reason he didn't get a peerage because he held the government to account.
@@neilbowers6956 Of course, not everything about a person is bad. But an independent enquiry corroborated claims about his bullying and lying behaviour. And he's banned for life from entering parliament buildings. Plus, despite being the speaker he wasn't unbiased since he was a closet anti-brexiteer. Again as a human, one can't completely avoid this, but he must have stepped down. He once drove a car which had a pro-euro sticker on and he then said the car belonged to his wife?????He was driving it and for heaven's sake, he was the speaker of the house of commons not some private businessman. But all that notwithstanding, his treatment of parliament like school kids was reprehensible. He used language that was extremely elitist simply because he was in a chair. There is no way such a character could be honoured with peerage.
@sreeT you know rhe saying, play the ball, not the man?
Well, here we are talking about the task of speaker, not personality. And to me, Bercow did a much better job, and as regards to being anti-brexit, there again he was simply against the empty rhetoric of most of the brexiteers. When they spoke rubbish, he took them to task. That's his job.
@@garyrowe58 This can go on for a while. As I said, he was a proven bully and banned from parliament. That is a pretty humiliating end to a 10 year long stint. The character does come into question at some point. So many people who get knighthood, later got stripped of it when they did shady things afterwards. Honours and awards undeniably assume impeccable character. When the character is in question, it would be very difficult to justify asking the Monarchy to honour the person regardless of the professional merit. His duty is to enforce good conduct and discipline (oh the irony!!!). He cannot adjudge the veracity of statements made (that is opposition's job).
Where do the Tories find these people ? She's in total contempt of the House of Commons, and furthermore the Government have no mandate to replace important legislation on employee rights , health / safety and environmental laws, at the whim of ministers and officials. These are the lashing out death throws of a moribund moraly bankrupt Government. Hoyle was weak as usual. Eleanor Liang would do a much better job as Speaker - a Tory to keep the Tories in check, like the Commons standards committee on Alexander Johnson
Go Lindsey.
We need some laws in this country where the public can call for the government to be dissolved due to a complete failure of said government...which we are having to endure now.
Just imagine how this whole situation might turn out with John Bercow on the chair.
Or Betty B
The flamingoes would’ve been flying!
No disrespect to sir Hoyle, but I do miss Bercow
And a minority government! Which we had at the time.
OOOODDDDOOOOUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR
Laughed it off and carried on - makes no difference at all
Yeah cos basically she was savaged by a koala bear. Hoyle has no teeth.
well said man
Utterly depressing on so many counts.
'' the sequencing we chose '' says it all
Glad he is finally able to find his testosterone to stand his ground against any Tory Minister
He's obviously being rationed on testosterone.
@@clivecosta-correa2102 a little bit too rationed. Just wished he brought that same energy when Boris F*ckface Johnson often disobeyed the house.
I wouldn't say "any", but he certainly found his balls with a black, lady, Tory. Never saw him like that when Johnson or Rees-Mogg were literally taking the piss out of him to his face..... wonder why? 🤔
@@garyt123 Facts 💯 absolutely true!
Well she is a black woman, he wasn't having her talk down to him 😂
Words words words , nothing ever happens NADA
Text book response from a narcissist ... I'm sorry you feel that way
How dare she!? Even her apology was as uncontrite and unapologetic as possible.
They would be by far better off with terminating UK's parliament to reform UK.
@@peterebel7899 And restore absolute monarchy?
@@pauljordan4452 Isn't an absolute monarchy the better system compared to an absolute kleptocracy?