How I Learned to Relove the CPU Market

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024

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  • @kizuati
    @kizuati 3 роки тому +633

    5:38 I saw the upscale. Phillip couldn't resist.

    • @MaksKCS
      @MaksKCS 3 роки тому +68

      almost every image in this video is upscaled lol

    • @WangleLine
      @WangleLine 3 роки тому +3

      Hehehehe

    • @kizuati
      @kizuati 3 роки тому +2

      @@MaksKCS jokes on you, it's the video that was upscaled

    • @firkinflamer8604
      @firkinflamer8604 3 роки тому

      @@MaksKCS SoUrCe???!?!?? /?!! ++!!??!!??????

  • @frogdan
    @frogdan 3 роки тому +575

    Got a 1070 right before the prices went nuts. For all I know, this is the card I will have until I retire.

    • @toecurlersupreme
      @toecurlersupreme 3 роки тому +75

      i got an rx 5600xt when everybody was telling me to wait for rtx 30 series and rx 6000 series to launch
      as a wise man once said, "look who's laughing now"

    • @king_br0k
      @king_br0k 3 роки тому +13

      I also got a 1070 when things started going down, all I need given I am using 1080p

    • @miweneia
      @miweneia 3 роки тому +38

      My 970 died at the beginning of this year, a guy hooked me up with a used 1080ti for 620usd; felt like I got scammed by life, considering the 3060ti was supposed to be a 400 dollar card and I was planning on upgrading this year... But look what happened now - 1660 cards go for 100 bucks higher than what I got this 1080ti for.

    • @noamias4897
      @noamias4897 3 роки тому +2

      Same but then 2 years ago I saw a PC from a retailer for 1200$ with specs better than that price combined if I were to build it myself.

    • @BettersonMcgee
      @BettersonMcgee 3 роки тому +1

      Ahahaha you and me both buddy

  • @hospsa6933
    @hospsa6933 3 роки тому +212

    When the day comes and the prices become normal and the scalpers stop making money so they stop I'm going to build the best pc i can

    • @smitias_8474
      @smitias_8474 3 роки тому +11

      That mentality though is what will postpone normal prices. As soon as prices will get more or less close to normal people start buying up. So the prices will struggle to actually land again. Very annoying feature of the world around us and there is nothing we can do...

    • @windblownleaf6450
      @windblownleaf6450 3 роки тому +3

      You're going to be waiting a while in that case.

    • @hospsa6933
      @hospsa6933 3 роки тому +11

      @@windblownleaf6450 I wouldnt be surprised if I waited another year

    • @ostapkurtash6359
      @ostapkurtash6359 3 роки тому +4

      Just travel my friend. Tech will always let you down. What won't let you down is a nice week holiday in a tropical paradise.

    • @ostapkurtash6359
      @ostapkurtash6359 3 роки тому +2

      These sons of mothers don't deserve our money. The shameful way they treated us and their response to the global situation is beyond disrespectful. Private deals, tons of cards being sold without even hitting the market, refusing to address scalper issues and artificially limiting hashrate when the consumer buys the card for 3x the price? Who are they making fun of... That being said, if you can profit or need it for educational purposes go for it but to who you are giving your money to. (I am sorry for taking it of my chest)

  • @zaidlacksalastname4905
    @zaidlacksalastname4905 3 роки тому +480

    "You could buy a previous generation card"
    2021:I'll take 200 for a gt 710, pay up

    • @mix3k818
      @mix3k818 3 роки тому +17

      Currently on a performance equivalent of a GT 710 - the GeForce 9600GT.

    • @SoloCinder
      @SoloCinder 3 роки тому

      Wanna buy my EVGA 2070 cc ultra I just got my new pc

    • @Shpoovy
      @Shpoovy 3 роки тому +5

      i saw a gt 210 selling for £60
      bought a gt 1030 for about 75 a few months ago

    • @Yobleck
      @Yobleck 3 роки тому +5

      @@Shpoovy current price on newegg for that card varies from 130-180 usd. Yikes!

    • @excitableboy7031
      @excitableboy7031 3 роки тому +2

      What? Who pays 200 for a GT 710?

  • @GaiaGoddessOfTheEarth
    @GaiaGoddessOfTheEarth 3 роки тому +538

    It is insane that graphics cards released 10 years ago are more than their MSRP on eBay.

    • @tonizombie
      @tonizombie 3 роки тому +3

      Kinda the same as old comic books or something

    • @PaintsAreOp
      @PaintsAreOp 3 роки тому +6

      I have a GTX 480 from 2010, it was 499€ at release. I don't think I can get more than 20€ on eBay...

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 3 роки тому +13

      2016 wasn't 10 years ago (people are only buying AMD GCN4+ and Nvidia Pascal+ at inflated prices)

    • @philip_bray
      @philip_bray 3 роки тому +14

      10 years is a stretch.

    • @FlourescentPotato
      @FlourescentPotato 3 роки тому +8

      3 or 4 years, more like

  • @skysub1
    @skysub1 3 роки тому +215

    Hey Phillip.
    Your video on the headonic treadmill was great! It has made me think a lot of the things i do and why i feel demotivated when it comes to certain activities.
    Thank you.
    - A long time viewer

  • @Bsodman
    @Bsodman 3 роки тому +311

    I'm not kidding, I can sell my 270X that I bought 5 years ago for a profit.
    This is sad, I used to love trading used gpus, try out old stuff. But this just ruins it all.

    • @aarriikknn33ll
      @aarriikknn33ll 3 роки тому +20

      exactly, i sold my 290 for 320 euros a month ago! I bought it for 180 euros 3 years ago!

    • @mix3k818
      @mix3k818 3 роки тому +7

      I wonder how much I can sell my 9600GT for...

    • @aarriikknn33ll
      @aarriikknn33ll 3 роки тому +6

      @@mix3k818 i sold mine for 25 euros a while ago xd

    • @charmingpeasant9834
      @charmingpeasant9834 3 роки тому +1

      I'm contemplating whether to sell my GTX 1050 Ti for a profit, which i bought for 120 € back in 2017,
      and go back to my old GTX 650 till things calm down.

    • @mix3k818
      @mix3k818 3 роки тому

      @@aarriikknn33ll Well, the 9600GT is in such a state that its value is generally rising.
      That being said, I might be better off selling it now, since I have an APU anyway (though it's even slower)

  • @nhansgoofyvideos7581
    @nhansgoofyvideos7581 3 роки тому +39

    It felt surreal when I realized my aging R9 380X is appreciating.

    • @nhansgoofyvideos7581
      @nhansgoofyvideos7581 3 роки тому

      @Félix Sánchez Unfortunately, Nvidia is overpriced here. It does not help that people here also undervalue AMD cards.

  • @BRUXXUS
    @BRUXXUS 3 роки тому +102

    We shall never let Intel live down their petty "glue" comment.

    • @arielfernandez8196
      @arielfernandez8196 3 роки тому +2

      Sorry to ask, but what glue comment are you talking about?

    • @BRUXXUS
      @BRUXXUS 3 роки тому +19

      @@arielfernandez8196 When AMD announced Ryzen and what made the architecture unique and powerful, a leaked Intel powerpoint presentation bragged about how their chips weren't a bunch of cores just "glued" together like AMDs.

    • @ayroncajuday6629
      @ayroncajuday6629 3 роки тому +2

      @@BRUXXUS that's so fcking petty of them

    • @dondraper4438
      @dondraper4438 3 роки тому +5

      @@ayroncajuday6629 It was some truly good times. AMD fan boys talking about many cores and Intel fan boys would refer to bulldozer. Original Zen's launch is by far one of my favourite moments in recent tech history.

    • @tim3172
      @tim3172 3 роки тому +1

      Glue is literally a technical term for circuitry connecting two separate chips.
      Google "glue logic" and then look at the Infinity Fabric and I/O die and then get back to us.
      Ryzen is *literally* glued together. It's not an insult.

  • @bambostic
    @bambostic 3 роки тому +10

    I’ve been really demotivated this last year, and your hedonic treadmill video hit me quite hard, as I’ve realized how much of my day is doing neither work nor play: JUST procrastination, browsing Twitter or other places that I don’t quite enjoy but take up time nonetheless. I hope to break this cycle soon, and I think your video will be present in my mind until I do. Hope you’re doing well Phil!

  • @quackduckface
    @quackduckface 3 роки тому +19

    "hope youre old graphics card doesnt die on you"
    this made me cry as my 980ti died on me and im now stuck with whatever else i had, so.. a hd4850.

    • @Breadmanngo
      @Breadmanngo 3 роки тому

      My 570 just died :‘( so yeah I guess I’m not gaming for a while

    • @quackduckface
      @quackduckface 3 роки тому +2

      @@Breadmanngo I managed to grab a 970 but it just ain't the same...

    • @quackduckface
      @quackduckface 3 роки тому

      @@Breadmanngo i actually have a hd6970 that i dont need... maybe i can help you?

    • @Breadmanngo
      @Breadmanngo 3 роки тому

      @@quackduckface I’m going to a boarding school in 2 months anyway so it doesn’t really matter but thanks ^^

    • @quackduckface
      @quackduckface 3 роки тому

      @@Breadmanngowell okay then, good luck!

  • @musamba101
    @musamba101 3 роки тому +29

    That is why I have taken an interest in mini PCs and APU's since 2020. The Ryzen APU's can get you by with most tasks and games at low to mid range settings.

    • @L3v3LLIP
      @L3v3LLIP 3 роки тому +1

      I am interested in the upcoming ones, if zen3 gets paired with a RX6600 that would be amazing.

    • @Ajee02
      @Ajee02 3 роки тому +1

      I'm slowly inching away from my APU, its great but when you really start needin the power the cpu just doesn't deliver
      not that I have a good one, just a 3200g

    • @L3v3LLIP
      @L3v3LLIP 3 роки тому

      @@Ajee02 Is that a heat problem, or do they differ from normal CPU dies?

    • @musamba101
      @musamba101 3 роки тому

      @@Ajee02 I'm going for a 4650G to see ho it goes. If I need heavy lifting, I have a gaming laptop and desktop to cut the slack.

  • @lennyface6828
    @lennyface6828 3 роки тому +54

    At this point, my 600$ gaming PC's worth is probably in the low thousands. Thanks scalpers?

    • @JukoYT
      @JukoYT 3 роки тому +8

      My gtx 1060 i bought 3 years ago is literaly worth more than back when i bought it lol

    • @havefun123for
      @havefun123for 3 роки тому

      I made a $250 profit on my refurb 2070 E-GPU

    • @WorkinDuck
      @WorkinDuck 3 роки тому +1

      @@JukoYT My 6 year old GTX960 2GB is worth 300€ lol bought it for 200€ back then

    • @carvcat
      @carvcat 3 роки тому +2

      @@WorkinDuck its not... i bought a used 960 4gb for 120€ on ebay direct buy no bidding 2 weeks ago. and in general they go for 120/130-160. Just cause some idiots are putting them up for 300 bucks doesnt mean someone will buy it. A couple of weeks prior to the 960 buy i was bidding on a r7 370 2gb and got it for 41 bucks. You can get these type of old cards that can still run some games in 1080p especially esport titlles or something like gtav or whatever for at least a somewhat reasonable price.
      300 bucks is what the 1060 6gb goes for right now and thats bad enough.

    • @norbertsoltesz1012
      @norbertsoltesz1012 3 роки тому

      My 1660 almost worth 3 times as much

  • @nobody-tj1mv
    @nobody-tj1mv 3 роки тому +50

    I was so happy when the Nvidia RTX 3080 was announced. I finally had a good enough reason to upgrade! I could finally see those games Phillip showed, and play new games on Ultra settings! But I just had to wait a couple of months for the prices to drop a little so I could by one. I just had to wait…

    • @BMXR0
      @BMXR0 3 роки тому +2

      Same for me but with RTX 3060ti. I ordered one in december. Still waiting for delivery

    • @rzul
      @rzul 2 роки тому

      just a few more months bro

  • @ivanivanovsky2116
    @ivanivanovsky2116 3 роки тому +42

    GPU market is just sad rn. I just saved up money by march and tried to buy a decent pc. Bought all the components(without a gpu)
    So currently im watching this video on my brand new pc with ryzen 5600x and GT710(I bought this for 50$)

    • @possamei
      @possamei 3 роки тому +7

      This card is a crime against humanity. Even moreso at $50.

    • @edga7490
      @edga7490 3 роки тому +8

      GT710 for 50$ ? You got robbed, even my 12 years old GTS250 will be more powerful.

    • @bobpro583
      @bobpro583 3 роки тому

      @@edga7490 At least its not Intel graphics, or the UHD one. Xe on the other hand...

    • @edga7490
      @edga7490 3 роки тому +7

      @@bobpro583 UHD performs better probably xd

    • @bobpro583
      @bobpro583 3 роки тому

      @@edga7490 it’s the same as gt 710 but with no features. At least with 710 you get nvidia features
      Source: had hd and UHD graphics

  • @hugopfeffer4175
    @hugopfeffer4175 3 роки тому +5

    That "if that ever happens" at the end broke me.

  • @aerolus
    @aerolus 3 роки тому +3

    Just do what I've been failing at for the last 6 months: sign up for the newegg shuffle then nervously check your email for the next 8 hours before "You were not selected" and I cant say by experience but I bet getting in is so great

  • @h2oaddict28
    @h2oaddict28 3 роки тому +12

    Ryzen was the most exciting cpu series since nehalem!

    • @dondraper4438
      @dondraper4438 3 роки тому +1

      Agreed and hopefully Intel's Xe moment follows in the same foot steps.

  • @mix3k818
    @mix3k818 3 роки тому +55

    I used to be a huge Intel fan. Now I am planning to buy a Ryzen chip. Good to see the market evolve.

    • @devindykstra
      @devindykstra 3 роки тому +12

      I used to be an AMD fan, but now I'm rooting for Intel to catch up. It's a strange time for the CPU market.

    • @taiiat0
      @taiiat0 3 роки тому +4

      @@devindykstra
      careful, don't let the mainstream Media fill you full of too much crud.

    • @devindykstra
      @devindykstra 3 роки тому +9

      @@taiiat0 oah yeah I'm still level headed. I love my R5 1600 and will continue buying AMD for as long as they have the better product. I'm just worried if AMD gets *too* far ahead like intel during the Bulldozer era.

    • @taiiat0
      @taiiat0 3 роки тому +1

      @@devindykstra
      if you think a Ryzen 1600 is beating something Intel has to offer, i think you're exactly being a blind fanboy.
      Ryzen 5000 can come close to Intel finally. but mainstream Media doesn't know how to use Computers so they spew bad data all day. makes my job harder when they do.

    • @desmond3245
      @desmond3245 3 роки тому +8

      @@devindykstra the most disgusting part is how everybody is okay with zen 3's increased performance and increased prices. That sounds just like the 20-series RTX gpus compared to 10-series, except that the perf/dollar is even worse! $200 for a 3600 and a 50% price jump we now get the 5600x. But where the heck is the 50% perf boost?

  • @blazbohinc4964
    @blazbohinc4964 3 роки тому +10

    I'm one of the lucky ones that got the RTX 3070 for $680 in the first batch of cards. After that, they've been either unavailable or $1800+
    I feel so proud to have predicted the supply shortages

  • @burger406
    @burger406 3 роки тому +45

    hi philip, this is great!
    -burger40

    • @aitsu_nojayjay
      @aitsu_nojayjay 3 роки тому +9

      hi jake, this is great!
      -chadwick

    • @noone-tk8yq
      @noone-tk8yq 3 роки тому +7

      Hi Jake Pittman, this is great!
      -I'm no one

    • @acombo
      @acombo 3 роки тому +7

      @@noone-tk8yq Hi no one, this is great!
      -AggressiveCombo

    • @harperkdavis
      @harperkdavis 3 роки тому +5

      Hi Aggressive Combo, this is great!
      -KwippShire

    • @hossermes
      @hossermes 3 роки тому +4

      Hi KwippShire, this is great!
      -Hosermes

  • @AdityaTripathi
    @AdityaTripathi 3 роки тому +1

    I bought my 1060 like 4 years ago and I'm totally happy with it. I can play any games at 120+ FPS at Medium to High settings, and now even if AMD's FSR isn't that great, it'll let me enjoy them at even higher quality. Not buying a GPU until the market stabilizes.

  • @HaliOnRepeat
    @HaliOnRepeat 3 роки тому +14

    I was able to sell my 750 Ti for $120. It hasn’t even seen the light of day in years.

    • @TuskForce
      @TuskForce 3 роки тому +4

      never thought this card would be that hot again. this crisis is insane

    • @REXOZero
      @REXOZero 3 роки тому +2

      What?! I bought an old PC with a 750 Ti in it for $140 back in 2016 or so lol.

    • @Se7enRemain
      @Se7enRemain Рік тому

      I bought a new 750ti for $80 in 2014. It was my first graphics card ever. Good times

  • @chaohord
    @chaohord 3 роки тому +2

    this really is a great way to reframe the situation, just imagine the possibilities. ty for the much needed optimism

  • @n0rbert79
    @n0rbert79 3 роки тому +2

    It is also worth mentioning, that the security flaws in Intel CPUs, parts, which were responsible for many speed improvement had to be disabled causing existing processor working on a slower speed, but AMD were not affected by those issues. That also caused Intel CPUs become less favourable as these changes had to be implemented while on BIOS/UEFI level and disabling certain features. Actually these changes were less to be seen in the news, but sure made me think twice before I wanted to buy a new CPU for my current motherboard. So I decided not to and kept collecting my money.

  • @mungojerrie86
    @mungojerrie86 3 роки тому +3

    That UserBenchmark jab was mwah - bellissimo!

  • @LordZordid
    @LordZordid 3 роки тому +2

    I recently exchanged my 2600K with a 5600X. It served me well for many years and I never saw a reason to upgrade before now. On a sidenote, i've worked in IT for 25 years and most in my profession seems as pragmatic as me.

  • @CreeperleUwe
    @CreeperleUwe 3 роки тому

    Man im so glad i built a new PC at the start of the lockdowns 2020 with a 2070 super. that card is gold worth now. Awesome video as always!

  • @elvisnikulin8674
    @elvisnikulin8674 3 роки тому +7

    I bought the parts for my PC this November assembled it 2 months ago and yet I still don't have a GPU. literally the reason why I bought an Intel processor was to have integrated graphics

  • @WangleLine
    @WangleLine Рік тому

    I can't stop thinking about the thumbnail for this video. It's so good lmao

  • @Suraniset
    @Suraniset 9 днів тому

    My Fx6300 kept pushing right until the end, when my pc started failing I swapped it for a 8300 that pushed side by side with my trusty 1050ti until the end of 2022, where right in the end of his life, he experiencied being together with a 3060 12gb... My Fx6300 was a brave soldier until the end, pushing 4.5ghz for a measly 10fps gain on GTA V. Soon he will be ressurected as a secondary PC.

  • @dondraper4438
    @dondraper4438 3 роки тому +1

    AMD's Zen moment is how i feel about Intel's entry in the dGPU market with Xe. People are really under estimating Raja and his team.

  • @erlendstaavi1151
    @erlendstaavi1151 3 роки тому +4

    got really lucky, and snagged a 6800xt in january. i could now sell it for nearly twice the price, and sold my 4 year old 1070 for almost the same prce as i paid for it. insanity.

  • @joeykeilholz925
    @joeykeilholz925 3 роки тому +5

    This is why I had such a bad taste in my mouth when Zen 3 pricing was hiked massively.

  • @DarkGharren
    @DarkGharren 3 роки тому +18

    5:20 making good use of that AI upscaling, I see.

  • @Yugdax
    @Yugdax 3 роки тому +17

    I’ve just give up hope at this point. Hopefully my 1080 will keep on chugging a little longer.

    • @possamei
      @possamei 3 роки тому +6

      bruh my 1060 is still flying all these years

    • @hohladych
      @hohladych 3 роки тому +2

      I stream and edit on 1050ti, If only i had your problems...

    • @f1r3hunt3rz5
      @f1r3hunt3rz5 3 роки тому +1

      @@hohladych Same bruh, and the computer repair shop I went to even said that mine was underperforming, but it held on for 4 years and still do today

  • @NightpireVideos
    @NightpireVideos 3 роки тому +1

    I remember when Doom3 came out around the same time as Athlon64 CPUs to run it. That felt like we reached the peak of technology in the early 2000s.

  • @ostadpapa
    @ostadpapa 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for shining some hope into this dire situation

  • @fustilarian1
    @fustilarian1 3 роки тому +1

    In hindsight I'm glad I decided to buy and build a PC in mid 2020, I remember there was a brief period when Ampere was announced and second hand 2080Tis were going for cheap, it wasn't even that long ago, those sellers got doubly screwed. At that time I felt a bit dumb because I only just bought a 2070 Super a few months ago. I'm sure the GPU market will recover, these things can change surprisingly fast.

  • @karliskorlass196
    @karliskorlass196 3 роки тому +8

    I sold my Vega 56 for 700 and got an RX 570 for 160. Best decision of my life.

    • @randomcatdude
      @randomcatdude 3 роки тому

      ayy, that's the same GPU I have!

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 3 роки тому

      So you lost ... over 50% of the performance and made 540$. Eh?

  • @ziizoraka4985
    @ziizoraka4985 3 роки тому +21

    metro exidus enhanced is the first game that got me believing RT is closer than a few more generations away

  • @johnfenn8514
    @johnfenn8514 3 роки тому +1

    I love your hardware themed videos ,keep it up :)

  • @joeonyt196
    @joeonyt196 3 роки тому +3

    I can't hold on to a graphics card when I don't have one

  • @JimmyTheFish3
    @JimmyTheFish3 3 роки тому

    bought a sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT in January for £850, felt like i over paid a bit, but then when i went to sell my Vega 64 a few week later, i managed to sell it for £550 on Ebay because mining had started to take off again, so my 6800XT basically only cost me £300, and now having seen the 6700XT retailing for £900+, i'm so happy i pulled the trigger when i did

  • @honkmandeluxe
    @honkmandeluxe 3 роки тому

    I'm always wanting more videos from you and you're always providing, love you philip

  • @Cykaa226
    @Cykaa226 3 роки тому

    I used to own one of these bad boys up untill few years ago. FX-8300 to be exact. Id get free heating while playing games and free frustration from bad performance. Now rocking a ryzen 5 2600x, couldnt be more happy with the upgrade.

  • @haxmixon801
    @haxmixon801 3 роки тому

    That spider at the beginning made me uncomfortable when it was falling and its legs spread out

  • @thestatpow5
    @thestatpow5 3 роки тому +4

    Remember how back then you could buy a house in your 20's and now it's not even affordable in your 50's.
    This will happen with the computer market one day, mark my words.

  • @robbutterill1426
    @robbutterill1426 3 роки тому

    it still hurts a little knowing how good the 2nd hand parts market was a few years ago (2017/18) when Ryzen gen 2 was released. Now everything is out of reach to many and it sucks. hope we come out of this soon

  • @vicvance1387
    @vicvance1387 3 роки тому

    I managed to get a 3080ti at MSRP. I had originally given up on getting a 3000-series card, but when I was buying some new ram the website just happened to have gotten them that day.

  • @juljul3107
    @juljul3107 3 роки тому +9

    I bought my 3070 for only 50 dollars more at the beginning, waited 2 months for it to arrive, but it works well!

    • @Pepino8A
      @Pepino8A 3 роки тому +1

      How

    • @stickernoodle6197
      @stickernoodle6197 3 роки тому +1

      @@Pepino8A i feel like he meant 500

    • @juljul3107
      @juljul3107 3 роки тому +1

      @@stickernoodle6197 nope, I bought it just at the beginning + I live in Poland

    • @stickernoodle6197
      @stickernoodle6197 3 роки тому +1

      @@juljul3107 are you serious i spent 750 on mine

    • @juljul3107
      @juljul3107 3 роки тому +1

      @@stickernoodle6197 ouch

  • @waititstuesdaygod
    @waititstuesdaygod 3 роки тому

    I've noticed that since I out on notifs for you that's you appeared in my recommendation on the same day

  • @white_mage
    @white_mage 3 роки тому

    1:06 more than a decade ago, i was told sapphire cards are the best because they tend to fail less often than other brands. i couldn't confirm that yet, but so far has been true. i've used an overclocked radeon 5670 for 11 years until i finally decided it was a good moment to sell it. i remember finishing doom 2016 twice on that card at a miserable 20fps on 360p.
    also related to the subject. a friend of mine had also a sapphire radeon but it was a 5770. he still uses it to play older games. a few years ago he thought the vapor chamber (its a 5770 vapor-x. comes with a small vapor chamber under the heatsink that looks suspiciously similar to intels stock heatsinks ones) had dried and the water evaporated somehow because it was running even hotter after cleaning it and replacing the thermal paste. it happened to be some corosion on the copper plate of the chamber and not enough torque on the heatsink.

  • @Ferdam
    @Ferdam 3 роки тому

    it is crazy to think that in Jan 2021 I managed to get 2 3070 just a few weeks before GPU prices skyrocketed enough to make a single 3070 match the value I paid for those 2 in Jan this year

  • @eldenringer6466
    @eldenringer6466 2 роки тому

    Good video. Exactly how I feel in some ways. But I worry the market won't change back and world issues will be blamed for not dropping prices and no one will undercut prices becasue they no lo her need to. I also see a false scarcity issue being a problem. And I worry that even if it all goes back to normal...there are now enough super rich people due to the vile unbalance in wealth...that all the possible cards will be bought by them. Or worse by the criminal / scalper market ensuring they keep their monopoly for ever more. I don't think the people who should care about their loyal customers care any more about any thing but making all the money :(

  • @SupremeHumanBeing
    @SupremeHumanBeing 3 роки тому

    I don't know how I found your channel, but I'm very happy that I did.

  • @D3nn1s
    @D3nn1s 3 роки тому +15

    Wait was the bulldozer sweeping i7's their actual logo? Haha

    • @Saymon10
      @Saymon10 3 роки тому

      Just in case, no. XD

  • @SHUTENSEPC
    @SHUTENSEPC Рік тому +2

    And it is happening right now.

  • @doculab3d
    @doculab3d 3 роки тому

    I'd like a 30+ minute video like this. You're describing my journey and a lot of others, I assume.

  • @ThunderKat
    @ThunderKat 3 роки тому

    I always find CPU reviews boring due to the lack of good in dept about how well they handle new set of instructions added to them with each new generation.
    At least we seen them packing smaller size component, having more cache, clock speed, amount of cores, IPS/Watt improves and so on...
    GPU did show a bit more since they put names to the new "set of instructions" they now handle, as different version of DirectX, OpenGL, Tessellation, etc manage to show you what newer generations where capable off with video demos. Sadly for the CPU all happened in the form of instructions sets and codes that can't be display in other form than more frames and faster render times with a simple number to be seen at the end.

  • @michawhite7613
    @michawhite7613 3 роки тому +1

    I love the UBM roasting

  • @JoshFlynn101
    @JoshFlynn101 3 роки тому +3

    my 980ti just had to kick the bucket right after ampere launched😭

    • @calvitocalvon1711
      @calvitocalvon1711 3 роки тому +2

      F

    • @sakawi
      @sakawi 3 роки тому +1

      My GTX 970 died earlier this year. Luckily my friend sold me his old 1650 Super for cheap, so I have basically have the same performance as I did with the 970. I was planning on upgrading last year but held off for the new generation... Big mistake

  • @Yocairo
    @Yocairo 3 роки тому

    I was pleasantly surprised last year when I ordered a Ryzen 5 3600 for my server. Great CPU.

  • @Cheesefist
    @Cheesefist 3 роки тому +3

    Honestly, with the market in the shape it’s in currently, I’m just going to get a prebuilt cpu

    • @Sxm101
      @Sxm101 3 роки тому

      pre built cpu? Bruh

    • @Cheesefist
      @Cheesefist 3 роки тому

      @@Sxm101 spend thousands of dollars on one part < have a company sell you one with all the parts installed

    • @Sxm101
      @Sxm101 3 роки тому +1

      @@Cheesefist That's called Prebuilt "setup". Cpu is a singular part like GPU.

    • @Cheesefist
      @Cheesefist 3 роки тому

      @@Sxm101 someone is feeling snobby and elitist today, aren’t you little guy?

    • @joperamod5760
      @joperamod5760 3 роки тому +1

      @@Cheesefist what?

  • @PhilipLL
    @PhilipLL 3 роки тому

    Last 2 videos (this one plus 1klikk) have been great. Great job man. :D

  • @fica1137
    @fica1137 3 роки тому +5

    Fortunetly prebuilts are priced fairly, at least in my country

    • @BlueRockEye
      @BlueRockEye 3 роки тому +3

      2021 is pretty much the year of prebuilts, they are in most places the best way to get a good pc with a good gpu

  • @Radicaldude
    @Radicaldude 3 роки тому +1

    I got an RX570 8gb for $250 brand new from amazon at the start of december and then 2 weeks later they went completely out of stock sometimes selling for $800+. I really hope it doesnt fail on me or else i'll have to go back to my old HD6450

  • @BritishRifleman
    @BritishRifleman 3 роки тому

    Ryzen was good but it wasn't until 3rd gen that it was actually competitive for gaming, I'm not an intel fanboy but if you look at FPS benchmarks for a 4 core intel and a 8 core amd of Ryzen 1st and 2nd gen, intel wins in the vast majority of games, although I'm happy that and has caught up with their 5th gen products beating intel in the current price categories they're in, just hope they release a 5500x as I don't need the threads or I might just get a 5300x as upgrading little and often is best as all the CPUs are on the same architecture so theoretically they can overclock to similar levels although higher end silicon is of course slightly better, anyway, thanks for the video Phil, I love the channel and I'm glad you are uploading on a regular but not too regular basis, 40 mins of videos a week is good for me maximum ;)

  • @michaelmu6765
    @michaelmu6765 3 роки тому +39

    (post this during a Cryto fall)
    Ah yes

    • @zed7038
      @zed7038 3 роки тому

      Crypto fall means it's more profitable to mine.

    • @zed7038
      @zed7038 3 роки тому

      @@Turnip_ Do you have any idea how mining or blockchain works?

    • @michaelmu6765
      @michaelmu6765 3 роки тому

      @@zed7038 Yes and no imo. From what I understand, when there's abnormal activity on a blockchain, like people moving their Cryto to sell, miners gets higher profits. However, if it calms down, or if the value of the Cryto keeps on falling, the profits could be lower overall(unless it rebounds, that's a lot of profit).
      I do hope, however, wish that people can actually get the new GPUs.

    • @zed7038
      @zed7038 3 роки тому

      @@michaelmu6765 Mining is more profitable at the moment due to the increase in transactions and Ethereum having higher gas fees.
      As for GPUs, everyone will have to wait a year or so to get one but production volumes will also go up because GPU producers are making more revenue and cryptocurrencies are slowly moving towards proof of stake systems (no GPU mining) so in a couple of years GPU mining will be obsolete, which means GPUs will be really cheap. It is a long wait but I think it's more than worth it.

  • @wojtekpolska1013
    @wojtekpolska1013 3 роки тому +2

    Whatever opinion you have on Intel, AMD or NVidia, its always healthy for the market to have competition - if there is only one company producing certain thing, they dont have to worry about actually improving their product, or making the pricing fair/reasonable, since the customer has nowhere to go for another decent product.
    That happened in the CPU market, when AMD left it for a few years - Intel got lazy, did barely any improvements, increased pricing etc. When AMD made their new CPU, Intel had to actually start trying again.
    That't why monopoly is such a bad thing, certain big brands also just try to literally purchase their competition to avoid having to spend resources improving their products, which could be more expensive than outright purchasing the competition.

  • @dylon4906
    @dylon4906 3 роки тому

    managed to grab an rx 6800 for a reasonable price around launch time (micro center!), feels like I'm one of the few lucky people who struck gold in the gold rush

  • @SteveOnlin
    @SteveOnlin 3 роки тому +10

    Doesn't help that games are becoming less optimized and more bulls*it hard to play

    • @nobobonobo
      @nobobonobo 3 роки тому +5

      Games are just becoming trash in general

    • @charmingpeasant9834
      @charmingpeasant9834 3 роки тому +3

      @@nobobonobo Shitty, generic open worlds and cinematic hand holded experiences.
      But if theyre made by Sony, then theyre 10/10 IGN GOTY

    • @badass6300
      @badass6300 3 роки тому

      that's the idea of stronger hardware.

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin 3 роки тому

      @@badass6300 But do you think anyone would buy your game if they can't run it?

    • @badass6300
      @badass6300 3 роки тому

      @@SteveOnlin for a very long time top end games were played maxed out only by top-end hardware. Only due to the fact that 8th gen console were very weak and that 7th gen consoles lasted 2-3 years longer than they should, did we see top-end games run well on low-end hardware.

  • @ForAnAngel
    @ForAnAngel 3 роки тому

    Good job! You've made me excited about getting excited!

  • @qwkimball
    @qwkimball 3 роки тому

    "A Core 2 Duo got me through university." My first PC was a TI99-4/A. It had 16K of RAM and a 3 MHZ processor. [Yeah, I know, "Old man yells at cloud"]

  • @FlashheadX
    @FlashheadX 3 роки тому

    My GPU died half a year ago. I decided to wait for the new AMD cards that were supposed to be released in early 2021 - I spent Christmas vacation with my family anyway, so it wasn't urgent. Now I'm still sitting here with my Onboard GPU, replaying games from the early 2000s, not able to play multiplayer games with my friends, not able to touch Unreal Engine with more than 20 FPS, and 720p streams in the background make my entire system lag. It's frustrating as hell and I could hardly afford a new GPU right now even if the market didn't explode. Why couldn't my CPU die instead?

  • @yeetleslaw8529
    @yeetleslaw8529 3 роки тому +1

    The idea of getting a 3000 series for retail price feels like fantasy. Buying VR is cheaper than getting a 4 year old card.

  • @officer_baitlyn
    @officer_baitlyn 3 роки тому +1

    i wasnt interested in upgrading for like 2 years since i was satisfied with my 980ti
    when i looked at cards recently out of sheer curiosity i was shocked at really how little there is, now im looking at my card anxiously hoping it will survive at least until this is over
    i mean really what are u gonna do if something fails in ur pc atm

  • @marcocavaco3150
    @marcocavaco3150 3 роки тому

    My GTX 1060 is like that kind of dishwashing soap, you can rinse the sponge as hard as you can, and it still produces foam.
    It will surpass and overcome the chip chorgage crisis!

  • @RealGoOhm
    @RealGoOhm 3 роки тому

    Yeah I only joined at Bulldozer but was stung when I picked up an FX 4350. Tbh it did me well enough but it was day and night moving to an i5 8300h laptop which could blow that CPU out of the water and for only 45w vs the 4350's 125w! I did only pay around £65 for the FX cpu tbf. I was very lucky to pick up a RTX 3070 which at the time I thought I was paying far too much for but for the first time in my life I could afford to splash out a bit on my PC so I did it. £770, the same cost as the entirety of my gaming laptop I had before which had that i5, 8GB (upgraded to 16) of RAM and a GTX 1050ti notebook (plenty of cooling to, no doubt it was slightly slower than a desktop variant but not by much at all). I did get the Aorus Master 3070 from Gigabyte which was one of the more expensive 3rd party models and it was more than if I had got hold of one somewhere else but I paid a localish computer company just over the odds at the time for the product which is now £840 retail at Currys (a Botters wet dream I bloody hate Currys haha) and on Ebay they are selling for between £1100 and £1300 or so although I heard someone paid £1400 for a Suprim from MSI I believe. The market is insane the only positive is the money for very little work that is available as if you manage to pick up a card you can sell it on for a lot more but Ive deliberately held off. You can also mine which I did for around a week, made just over £50 and stopped lol (so really I paid £720 as that £50 I made was net thee gross was more but I paid a months worth of electric as well, just over £30 with the card running at less than 140w rather than its default 220w). Safe to say Ive been hooked on seeing what the markets are doing and getting great ideas to make a bit of quick cash but at the same time its starting to drag and I just wish prices would go back to normal so I could get my partner a new machine too rather than her having to use that gaming lappy I had for a couple years before her. Heres to hoping things calm down soon but we also need to talk about how to solve these shortages as we know they wont stop now and its only going to get worse and worse the more and more people gain access to technology and the funds to purchase it. We cant exactly tell these countries to get their own chips as we are getting them abroad in the first place XD (also a lot of these developing nations are HUGE in comparison to the UK or even the US).

  • @fuhrerhosty
    @fuhrerhosty 3 роки тому

    Hopefully I'll watch this video a couple years later with a 3080 or a 4080 that will finally relace my 1080Ti which is slowly starting to run out of breath in UWQHD resolution. Thanks for the cool video Philip.

  • @Reneator
    @Reneator 3 роки тому

    I fully agree. With the prices and the scalpers i think its not just bad to buy one in a monetary way but also in a moral way. Because buying now would show agreement with the price or the current situation. Both which i disagree highly.

  • @kelownatechkid
    @kelownatechkid 3 роки тому

    phillip is going ham with the upscaling lol

  • @wifightit
    @wifightit 3 роки тому

    A very relatable take! Great video.

  • @darkerm76
    @darkerm76 3 роки тому

    Am I the only one that think he has great way to make video more interesting and I love it.
    Also me: is this guy crazy? He just get half naked every opportunities he gets 😂

  • @erlendstaavi1151
    @erlendstaavi1151 3 роки тому

    Seeing this video underperforming makes me a bit sad, as these kinds of videos are among my favourites!

  • @justjoeblow420
    @justjoeblow420 3 роки тому

    I've been tuning out hardware reviews for some of the same reasons while the CPU market has mostly recovered from shortages I'm not even considering a new CPU being on a Ryzen 3600 but GPU's are where it hurts the most for me as I'm running a 5700XT and have a 4K monitor and while it meets my needs right now I know this card's useful life for 4K is going to be limited to only holding me over for a generation or two at best if I want to keep settings turned up like I have been in most my titles.

  • @f1r3hunt3rz5
    @f1r3hunt3rz5 3 роки тому

    Prebuilt PC setups: *It's my time to shine*

  • @beszmi
    @beszmi 3 роки тому

    5:24 sneaked in upscale

  • @Remyie
    @Remyie 3 роки тому

    A year ago I bought Ryzen 7 2700x 8/16 for about 150 euros. Probably best thing I ever bought

  • @edcofu
    @edcofu 3 роки тому

    I remember there was a class action lawsuit against AMD due Bulldozer not having true 8 cores as advertised, each couple cores had to share cache for some calculations. Anyone anywhere in the world could enter the cause and receive a 40$ check for each processor purchased. I have a 8320E and 8350 so i filled the online forms but living in Brazil i had no hope of receiving anything. A year later arrives a letter from California with an expired check in my name from AMD.
    Well that's a great souvenir i got and still love the Bulldozer for the low prices and insane OC those chips were capable of.

  • @evila9076
    @evila9076 3 роки тому +1

    There's no comeback for the gpu market. Even without shortages 200$ cards have been phased out and mid-range cards are in the mid 400$ range. it's over.

    • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
      @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 3 роки тому

      Agreed. The value is gonna be in laptops and consoles from here on out imo

  • @monad_tcp
    @monad_tcp 3 роки тому

    my $10 router board has 2GB DDR3, this puts things in perspective

  • @MerryBytes
    @MerryBytes 3 роки тому

    I think GPUs are actually pretty interesting right now, but not because of the products themselves or the situation the market finds itself in right now. It's more because of a shift in philosophies, where everyone in the industry is moving towards working smarter instead of harder while still pushing for graphical fidelity that makes our graphics cards cry in agony. DirectX 12 Ultimate's feature set is all about saving performance by "cheating" where you won't notice, and having bought a 2060 when it launched, seeing how DLSS progressed from the questionable feature that it was in Battlefield V to the highly desirable black magic that it is today has been nothing short of interesting.
    By comparison, my excitement for the CPU side of things is dying out. Zen 1 and Zen+ were interesting alternatives to Intel's offerings, with its own advantages and disadvantages. Zen 2 brought a very solid lineup overall that was a bit weaker in single-thread performance but extremely desirable thanks to its efficient and scalability all the way to 16 cores on a consumer platform. Then Zen 3 outdid Core in every way possible, and Intel can't keep up so AMD jacked up prices. I'm probably going to buy a 5900X in the future to replace my 2600, but my excitement for Zen 3 got dampened hard when AMD announced a 6 core processor for 300 dollars.

  • @content1006
    @content1006 3 роки тому

    Bought a 2060 right before the prices went up for about $350 which is as cheap as it gets here and now the minimum price for these in the whole country is above $1000 nice

  • @cool.guy.
    @cool.guy. 3 роки тому +4

    I'm still using my ol' FX-6300, though I've overclocked it to 4.5gHz,
    If processors were more affordable in my country, I would've thrown it away a long time ago,
    Fortunately, I've managed to snag a RX580 a few years ago for only 100 euros,
    The pairing between the FX and the RX is incredibly imbalanced, It's kind of cute in a way, but it works :)

    • @fapman4878
      @fapman4878 3 роки тому +3

      FX-6300 squad roll out! Currently playing through Red Dead Redemption 2 with it. The most impressive game I've ever played on the weakest CPU ever made. Just that fact alone made this CPU totally worth it. I think when I bought it in 2012, even an i3 was still double the price here. It's a lot like the game - red, (almost) dead, and it redeemed itself at the end. Long live bulldozer!

    • @CMSonYT
      @CMSonYT 3 роки тому +3

      The fx cpus can still compete with ps4 or even ps4 pro no problem. Just realize it's more a 30 fps cpu rather than sixty

    • @cool.guy.
      @cool.guy. 3 роки тому +1

      @@fapman4878 Red dead redemption 2, woaw that's impressive
      My biggest accomplishment is running total war Warhammer 2 on mine

    • @CMSonYT
      @CMSonYT 3 роки тому +2

      @@cool.guy. how fast or slow did it run?
      There are videos of rdr2 running on athlons by the way

    • @fapman4878
      @fapman4878 3 роки тому +1

      @@CMSonYT Yeah I've played every console port with 30-40 fps. I don't really need 60 for them. The games which I need 60 for run at 60 (PC esports & fps). Paired with a 1050ti it's literally just a console.

  • @erhock-rhonthuringerwald9122
    @erhock-rhonthuringerwald9122 3 роки тому +7

    "hold up on your existing graphics card"
    cries in gtx 960 2GB😭

  • @DwAboutItManFr
    @DwAboutItManFr 3 роки тому

    I never had the option to buy stuff so i am just here for bigger numbers.

  • @CWorm
    @CWorm 3 роки тому

    AMD Bulldozer was one that scorched my entire motherboard when it tried running multithreading, lol

  • @somerandomguy___
    @somerandomguy___ 3 роки тому

    My theory is that few people will ever get these new GPUs because by the time they're finally not out of stock and affordable newer generation cards would've been already made
    I think this because of the current global superconductor shortage. Its not happanening because the pandemic caused supply to go down but instead because it made demand go *way* up for everything and it just so happens that the universal product that is all these technologies is the superconductor. For reference Sony recently announced that PS5s might not be in a shortage all the way to late 2022 and that's a he'll of a lot time to wait, especially for a GPU that get outdated in just a few years

  • @VADemon
    @VADemon 3 роки тому +3

    1:35 I could still play Left4Dead 2