Coming up on four years sober in a family who will not even try to understand. We have lost 3 family members in 3 years. This made me cry at the end. Thank you for your dedication to this. It really matters.
@William so firstly, I was critiquing your assertion of your subjective analysis of psycho analytics and psychiatrists in general. I never said I learned anything brilliant from the video because frankly, there weren’t any new information proposed. You’ve still yet to provide a coherent alternative method of treatment. If you’re so smart as to critique the most successful attempts in human history to solve individuals vastly complex problems, please, enlighten me ;)
This guy gets it. Ex: I used opiates after my dad died and after a year i went through a withdrawal felt horrible for a week and resumed my life. Idiot me felt fine mentally and no reason to use again but I did. Used again and then was prescribed suboxone for 5 years and came off of it and haven't felt good since. Use Kratom now as without anything I can't wake up and don't feel pleasure even months after use. So disappointed in myself. My cousin abused opiates and Coke for years and quit. Shortly after,My other cousin came home to find him hanging in their garage. Some of them seemed shocked. He seemed off at my fathers funeral. He was sitting alone in a waiting room with a blank stare. Drugs rob you of life after a while. If I go a day without caffeine chewing tobacco or whatever I rock around all night sweat ache and get so uncomfortable in my own body it's torture. I have a two year old girl now and when she is old enough I'm going to share in detail my addictions and the pain it will cause her. Will be devastated if she ever becomes addicted to a substance mentally or physically. Will do what I can to prevent that.
Hey bulky spud...its been 2 yrs, I'm curious about your status thus far, regarding your recovery. My story is similar, and i empathize w you. I became addicted to opiates almost 15 yrs ago. And I've been on maintenance meds for about 3/4 of them. I'd like to not take them but I think at this point it might be safest to continue. I'm curious to know if u r still abstinent and feel "normal" yet?...
ms.placed_ word. I may help with this ms.placed, i was addicted to pharmaceutical opiates 80mg - 60mg a day of oxycontin for 2yr's came off in a slow taper in 40 day's the usual restless leg syndrome, sweats, mood fluctuations, then "normal again", with in 30 days, ofcorse everyones different, but my battle was the fear of whithdrawl, it's never as bad as you're addicted mind tells you. I hope that qualifies. Regards greeneyedcat.
I agree that he "gets it". The pleasure centers may LURE people into addiction. But "aversion" is the painful HOOK that keeps people in addiction once it is established.
The second time in recovery has a significantly better chance of success than the first. I wonder if this has much to do with the addicted some how feeling excluded from, well, everything. Speaking for myself, it was like it took a relapse for me to realize I am that addicted person. In retrospect, my first time in recovery seems like I was doing a whole bunch of mental gymnastics to block thoughts of using out and do everything differently: more focused, more relaxed but always in some relationship how I used to do things so I wouldn't remember what it was I liked about substance abuse. Now I realize that there isn't any sense in being determined not to do something. Stopping was a decision and every day since I made that decision is another day to have more confidence in the decisions I make. Every day I don't use again is another day to remember less well what I liked about using. Every day is another day I grow more certain that I will remind myself if I use again what is at stake: my confidence in making decisions and remembering much more completely what I liked about using. I might not have made much progress towards having what I used to use substances as a substitution for but I wouldn't risk losing that for the world.
I absolutely 100% agree with your comment . Thank you for taking the words right out of my mouth for the benefit of having others understand this subject that much more.. Honestly u are not alone . I too can relate to a tee with ur personal experiences and ur exact thought process throughout !! It's almost scary . Sincerely, Jeramie from Pennsylvania USA
Thank you for caring and also for sharing this video. I can't help but wonder about the lab rats and if they are ever fully rewarded for their contribution in these remarkable studies. Again thank you for your work and this video!❤️
I've always heard through therapy and rehabilitation that when you started doing drugs and alcohol and you stop years later ,you go back mentally to the time you started. So mentally I guess that I am around 8 years old. I don't know how true that is but I hope not.
Some people decide to drop out of life. It's usually through drug and alcohol addiction. There should be programs in each city that address these needs daily. We should have programs in place to prevent these people from living on the streets like stray dogs and cats.
great in the time of a Virus... 12 step dogma is the disease model and powerlessness (read learnt helplessness). You switch one dependence for another (lifer, higher power i.e. outsourcing your respose-ability and ownership). Addiction is a compulsion and learnt behaviour. Alternatives to 12 step that empower and lead to healthy life choices; 1) The Freedom Model 2) SMART Recovery 3) Rational Recovery 4) Life Ring So unless you want to sit in church basements drinking lousy coffee listening to people whine about their 'daliy reprive' and disease, I suggest you check the above out. Reading; Pete Soderman 'Powerless no longer.
You learn so many useful tools in 12 step recovery. But you have to invest time and your attention to learn and absorb the program. The comment is really taking things at their worst possible interpretation. People get a lot of relief from meetings and listening and sharing. You learn humility and honesty and gratitude. These are amazing things! The coffee isn't that bag either. Just wanted to put a counter argument out here in favor of AA / NA etc.
It's absolutely true. For me, I'm a huge oxygen abuser. I can't get enough of it. Even right now I want another breath. I just can't stop! There I go again, another hit of oxygen in my lungs. I just relapsed. Damn! This is gonna be a hard addiction to stop...
We should never have to justify the use of government funds to help anyone ever!I , myself would like more government funds to be used to cure diseases, mind or body, than to fund defense or war. Keep caring and the hugs will take care of themselves.
The problem with old school reasoning for drugs is they were created for mind manipulations, which spiraled & instead of further studying them & their effects on the brain they made them illegal, & then others who thought just because they knew the ingredients they could make em. There has been proof marajuana is beneficial to human beings, & it seems as though that's where the studies into drugs ended. But there are beneficial uses for amphetamines as well but not really being further investigated because science & society need people outside their industry to be the ones who prove there's more too it than what people are willing to believe because there have been so many horror stories & episodes on cops to convince people they all need further investigations but until people can get passed the addiction part of it then society will never know how to turn a negative into something more
Has anyone ever tried to use magnetic resonance medical devices to alter the insula and cure addicition the way this non-invasive therapy is used today for indications like parkinsons?
magnetic resonance?like electrtherapy?? i heard a guy 2yrs ago he treated phobias (brain scans +electrotherapy on brain)and was saying is promising for addiction too
Side effects. Ted and tedx have hosted Dr Gabor mate ,a Canadian who has a specialty in addiction. He is an addict and he went to Peru for h himself tried it and began using it with much more success than AA. That is until I the Canadian government made it illegal. Do both!
I quit smoking pot when they legalized it, took all the fun out of for me, if I can't piss the family off because I might go to jail for it well there went that fun. Now the thought of it seems too boring
I have been mean to addicts in the past; but I really changed and realized this person is less than a 4-legged animal, less than a beautiful reptile, less than the microcosm of insects; and if I couldn't show some compassion and sacrifice money for them then it's my soul I jeopardize. It's just too bad these addicts cannot get a pill and just curl up and die in a merciful painless way.
From reading this short glimpse into your character, I'm sure most of the people kin your life wished you would just go to work one day and not come back. Ever. .....nice thoughts.
Yes, they’re not just isolated subhumans....they have something going for them, friends, some family, some skill. Some addicts are well paid professionals as well.
what a joke. the public speaker here is the guy that builds the more addicting pills to increase sales.These guys make the drugs more habit forming.If you look at the best addictions they are the serotonin reuptake inhibitors.takes four years to break the habit and the brain is short on serotonin for four years, one person said it was a four panic attack. The opiates addiction problem is a smoke screen.the latest pain drugs have a opiate on one end of the molecule and a serotonin reuptake inhibitor on the other end of the molecule. IT IS THE BEST WAY TO HOOK YOU AND HOOK YOU HARD.
In America, everybody is 'Depressed' about something causing some kind of 'Addiction' in the patient's life that will require lifelong drug therapy and some type of psychotherapy. The only humans that are exempt from this reality are 'Doctors.' Doctors are here to exploit you, not heal you; healthy people don't have medical bills! Wake Up, America!
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Coming up on four years sober in a family who will not even try to understand. We have lost 3 family members in 3 years. This made me cry at the end.
Thank you for your dedication to this. It really matters.
Same here. My world would be very different if I could make my family walk in my shoes for 1 day.
Brilliant, we need more psychiatrists/neurologists like this guy!
@William illogical pessimist with no counter argument or proposed alternative method of treatment
@William so firstly, I was critiquing your assertion of your subjective analysis of psycho analytics and psychiatrists in general. I never said I learned anything brilliant from the video because frankly, there weren’t any new information proposed. You’ve still yet to provide a coherent alternative method of treatment. If you’re so smart as to critique the most successful attempts in human history to solve individuals vastly complex problems, please, enlighten me ;)
@William …….ok
This is my uncle! Really cool to see this video gets so much attention
This guy gets it. Ex: I used opiates after my dad died and after a year i went through a withdrawal felt horrible for a week and resumed my life. Idiot me felt fine mentally and no reason to use again but I did. Used again and then was prescribed suboxone for 5 years and came off of it and haven't felt good since. Use Kratom now as without anything I can't wake up and don't feel pleasure even months after use. So disappointed in myself. My cousin abused opiates and Coke for years and quit. Shortly after,My other cousin came home to find him hanging in their garage. Some of them seemed shocked. He seemed off at my fathers funeral. He was sitting alone in a waiting room with a blank stare. Drugs rob you of life after a while. If I go a day without caffeine chewing tobacco or whatever I rock around all night sweat ache and get so uncomfortable in my own body it's torture. I have a two year old girl now and when she is old enough I'm going to share in detail my addictions and the pain it will cause her. Will be devastated if she ever becomes addicted to a substance mentally or physically. Will do what I can to prevent that.
You are weak, whiny, self focused. To think you have a child and this is who you are? She has no chance in this world with a parent like you.
C_ Farther go,Tripp somewhere else man
Hey bulky spud...its been 2 yrs, I'm curious about your status thus far, regarding your recovery. My story is similar, and i empathize w you. I became addicted to opiates almost 15 yrs ago. And I've been on maintenance meds for about 3/4 of them. I'd like to not take them but I think at this point it might be safest to continue. I'm curious to know if u r still abstinent and feel "normal" yet?...
ms.placed_ word.
I may help with this ms.placed, i was addicted to pharmaceutical opiates 80mg - 60mg a day of oxycontin for 2yr's came off in a slow taper in 40 day's the usual restless leg syndrome, sweats, mood fluctuations, then "normal again", with in 30 days, ofcorse everyones different, but my battle was the fear of whithdrawl, it's never as bad as you're addicted mind tells you.
I hope that qualifies.
Regards greeneyedcat.
"The opposite of addiction is connection." -- Dr. Gabor Maté
Johan Hari -see his TED Talk and 'Chasing the scream'
'The opposite of addiction is not sobriety, the opposite of addiction is connection.'
I agree that he "gets it". The pleasure centers may LURE people into addiction. But "aversion" is the painful HOOK that keeps people in addiction once it is established.
What a brilliant and well delivered talk!
Love his voice. Real calming
Some very good points, as an addict whose experienced relapse it makes perfect sense.
The second time in recovery has a significantly better chance of success than the first. I wonder if this has much to do with the addicted some how feeling excluded from, well, everything. Speaking for myself, it was like it took a relapse for me to realize I am that addicted person.
In retrospect, my first time in recovery seems like I was doing a whole bunch of mental gymnastics to block thoughts of using out and do everything differently: more focused, more relaxed but always in some relationship how I used to do things so I wouldn't remember what it was I liked about substance abuse.
Now I realize that there isn't any sense in being determined not to do something. Stopping was a decision and every day since I made that decision is another day to have more confidence in the decisions I make. Every day I don't use again is another day to remember less well what I liked about using. Every day is another day I grow more certain that I will remind myself if I use again what is at stake: my confidence in making decisions and remembering much more completely what I liked about using.
I might not have made much progress towards having what I used to use substances as a substitution for but I wouldn't risk losing that for the world.
I absolutely 100% agree with your comment . Thank you for taking the words right out of my mouth for the benefit of having others understand this subject that much more.. Honestly u are not alone . I too can relate to a tee with ur personal experiences and ur exact thought process throughout !! It's almost scary . Sincerely, Jeramie from Pennsylvania USA
This doctor/psychiatrist understands addicts don't want to be addicts, and that's where the psychology of a cure starts.
Thank you for your effort to help us addicts get a hug from this addict Sean holden
So excellent! Thanks so much.
Thank you for caring and also for sharing this video. I can't help but wonder about the lab rats and if they are ever fully rewarded for their contribution in these remarkable studies. Again thank you for your work and this video!❤️
Greatest stressor: social exclusion
great talk Mr. Heilig
I've always heard through therapy and rehabilitation that when you started doing drugs and alcohol and you stop years later ,you go back mentally to the time you started. So mentally I guess that I am around 8 years old. I don't know how true that is but I hope not.
Some people decide to drop out of life. It's usually through drug and alcohol addiction. There should be programs in each city that address these needs daily. We should have programs in place to prevent these people from living on the streets like stray dogs and cats.
Just...wow.
The strongest bond is between co-dependent addicts. How does that fit into the equation?
In Narcotics Anonymous people greet each other with a hug.
great in the time of a Virus...
12 step dogma is the disease model and powerlessness (read learnt helplessness). You switch one dependence for another (lifer, higher power i.e. outsourcing your respose-ability and ownership).
Addiction is a compulsion and learnt behaviour.
Alternatives to 12 step that empower and lead to healthy life choices;
1) The Freedom Model
2) SMART Recovery
3) Rational Recovery
4) Life Ring
So unless you want to sit in church basements drinking lousy coffee listening to people whine about their 'daliy reprive' and disease, I suggest you check the above out.
Reading; Pete Soderman 'Powerless no longer.
You learn so many useful tools in 12 step recovery. But you have to invest time and your attention to learn and absorb the program. The comment is really taking things at their worst possible interpretation. People get a lot of relief from meetings and listening and sharing. You learn humility and honesty and gratitude. These are amazing things! The coffee isn't that bag either. Just wanted to put a counter argument out here in favor of AA / NA etc.
Your mom must have been wonder woman! Wow!
I can't believe people who don't see the interrelationship between biological and social realities.
I think everyone is addicted to something.
Exactly what I told a Psychiatrist.
That's just not true. But a great rationalization to think so.
J Sims they are
It's absolutely true. For me, I'm a huge oxygen abuser. I can't get enough of it. Even right now I want another breath. I just can't stop! There I go again, another hit of oxygen in my lungs. I just relapsed. Damn! This is gonna be a hard addiction to stop...
That's what the ego is.
We should never have to justify the use of government funds to help anyone ever!I , myself would like more government funds to be used to cure diseases, mind or body, than to fund defense or war. Keep caring and the hugs will take care of themselves.
Dat MIC THO!!!
The problem with old school reasoning for drugs is they were created for mind manipulations, which spiraled & instead of further studying them & their effects on the brain they made them illegal, & then others who thought just because they knew the ingredients they could make em. There has been proof marajuana is beneficial to human beings, & it seems as though that's where the studies into drugs ended. But there are beneficial uses for amphetamines as well but not really being further investigated because science & society need people outside their industry to be the ones who prove there's more too it than what people are willing to believe because there have been so many horror stories & episodes on cops to convince people they all need further investigations but until people can get passed the addiction part of it then society will never know how to turn a negative into something more
Has anyone ever tried to use magnetic resonance medical devices to alter the insula and cure addicition the way this non-invasive therapy is used today for indications like parkinsons?
magnetic resonance?like electrtherapy?? i heard a guy 2yrs ago he treated phobias (brain scans +electrotherapy on brain)and was saying is promising for addiction too
what about naltrixone?
Naltraxone is amazing for alchys :) I have been sober for almost 2 years
Side effects. Ted and tedx have hosted Dr Gabor mate ,a Canadian who has a specialty in addiction. He is an addict and he went to Peru for h himself tried it and began using it with much more success than AA. That is until I the Canadian government made it illegal. Do both!
+JVW can Naltrexone be powdered and secretly put in food
@@lairdbeevor612 AA is very dated and cultishly clings to its dogma and rhetoric. Neuroscience and Psychology are the future of addiction treatment.
Food included!
Look at diet related chronic diseases. Or are you silenced?
Ketamine? Ibogaine?
That s exactly what I was gonna comment😊
@@glutamateglutamate5728 why? For addiction treatment?
@@donfields1234 yes for addiction and also mental disorders.
Psilocybin, LSD and MDMA are also being evaluated for addiction and depression.
4:48 is he saying 50 or 15? 15-20% seems more reasonable.
Kevin Uchiha I heard 15 to 20%
It is 15 to 20 %.
I quit smoking pot when they legalized it, took all the fun out of for me, if I can't piss the family off because I might go to jail for it well there went that fun. Now the thought of it seems too boring
Yup
I have been mean to addicts in the past; but I really changed and realized this person is less than a 4-legged animal, less than a beautiful reptile, less than the microcosm of insects; and if I couldn't show some compassion and sacrifice money for them then it's my soul I jeopardize. It's just too bad these addicts cannot get a pill and just curl up and die in a merciful painless way.
From reading this short glimpse into your character, I'm sure most of the people kin your life wished you would just go to work one day and not come back. Ever. .....nice thoughts.
C_ Farther They are not less then. What a terrible concept. God created them just as he created you!
Yes, they’re not just isolated subhumans....they have something going for them, friends, some family, some skill. Some addicts are well paid professionals as well.
I do not see the compassion here. Like the lepers in the bible. How we test the least of these is as if we'd treat Jesus there same way
writing from a rubber prison cell?
what a joke. the public speaker here is the guy that builds the more addicting pills to increase sales.These guys make the drugs more habit forming.If you look at the best addictions they are the serotonin reuptake inhibitors.takes four years to break the habit and the brain is short on serotonin for four years, one person said it was a four panic attack. The opiates addiction problem is a smoke screen.the latest pain drugs have a opiate on one end of the molecule and a serotonin reuptake inhibitor on the other end of the molecule. IT IS THE BEST WAY TO HOOK YOU AND HOOK YOU HARD.
In America, everybody is 'Depressed' about something causing some kind of 'Addiction' in the patient's life that will require lifelong drug therapy and some type of psychotherapy.
The only humans that are exempt from this reality are 'Doctors.'
Doctors are here to exploit you, not heal you; healthy people don't have medical bills!
Wake Up, America!
This man seems to be addicted to 'self-esteem' or 'hands-in-pockets in public'
so weak, the guy does not know what is talking about :)