"Playing Against Trans Women Is UNFAIR" Female Pool Player Who Walked Away From Final Speaks Out
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Professional female pool player Lynne Pinches walked away from only the fourth final she'd ever made without playing a shot because her opponent was transgender.
The issue of transgender athletes participating in women's sports has become a hotly debated topic in recent years. While there are differing opinions on the matter, many female athletes argue that allowing transgender individuals to compete against biological females creates an unfair advantage. These concerns are not only about physical differences but also encompass the psychological impact on female athletes. The debate centres around the need for a fair playing field and the protection of women's sports.
Female athletes are expressing their concerns over the unfairness of competing against transgender players. They argue that, no matter how hard they train or practice, they will never be able to match the physical advantages that biological males possess. The creation of categories in sports was initially meant to ensure fairness, and allowing transgender individuals to compete against females undermines this principle. Female athletes believe that their hard work and dedication are being overshadowed by the inherent advantages that come with being biologically male.
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Wish all the ladies would boycott any competition where a man tries to join in, that would stop all this madness! Well done for having the courage ❤xx
yes the only way to stop this lunacy is stand your ground and walk away if there going to force women to play against men well the women must say no or the (the yt don't you dare alter my words again) women walk away and actualy walk away if they keep trying to force.
Agree completely with you
It only needs to happen a few times, then the sponsors would pull out because the tournament becomes an even bigger farce.
ok wtf is yt trying to pull now, I typed the women yt altered the wording after I hit send so I will keep that msg and explain here wtf yt now you been caught red handed burning books and altering words. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
We shouldn't have to. It should not require women losing out to resolve this situation.
You absolutely did the right thing. Bless you. You are indeed the best. Don't forget that.
Actually she won. She beat all the Women right up to the final.
@@kikoosamura4973oh there is a difference!
@@techeepeach9272 like what? they can see the colors of the balls better? or they can hit the balls harder?
@@chassummersonatina5206 I was referring to the real Woman, not the Man in a dress.
@@kikoosamura4973actually watch and listen to what Lynne says. She's literally states some of the advantages ffs 😂
@@blackgrape73this is literally pool how does being a man have any form or any sort of adventage?
Playing against MEN not trans-WOMEN.
Zero difference.
@@AngelaRyanXXhis meat and two veg are the difference
@@AngelaRyanXXwell there is. Men dont think they're women, duh
Yeah not women. TIMs. Trans identified male.
@@LonelyCinderella123 I like that, if they can come up with names like "CIS" for us we can call them whatever we want too, like TIMS (that would be pretty triggering id imagine for them too, a mans name ahahahaha).
Well done so happy to see more women standing up to this BS.
Fair play to her, took guts to do what she did 👍 keep female sports female
Does the trans person actually have an advantage in pool or does Lynne want attention??
Well she had the balls to walk out of the competition pardon the expression
@@mdaddy775 not about an advantage with regards to pool, he denied a real female a place, as I said, keep female sports female
@@mdaddy775they’d hit harder in the break , longer limbs. So just them two things alone give a trans an advantage
@mdaddy775 did you actually watch this and listened to what she said. She clearly stated just some of the advantages 🤦♂️
Well done to this lady.. men in women’s sport is so unfair & shouldn’t be accepted. All women need to walk out & not compete against men
It's pool!!!!!! How do men have an advantage in POOL???????
@ericthered2881 it's detailed in the video, from around the 8 min mark. But, to summarise: (assuming sexual averages. Note the word "sexual" not "gender", because the latter is a psychological construction, the former a biological one) greater cue power due to bigger muscles, meaning more chance to pot on the break; less chance of back issues as the trans wouldn't have had their breasts for as long, and haven't worn high heels for as long, both of which cause back problems; greater reach; longer fingers, aiding bridging over the balls; no menstrual distractions, or no hormonal issues caused by suspending the menstrual cycle via medication; no psychological trauma of facing a generally superior-at-sport sex; different field of vision. It's said the best cinema screen for a man is a square one, and the best for a woman is a rectangular one, the theory goes that men, evolutionarily, were the hunters and so needed to focus intensely on a smaller portion of terrain to spot prey, while woman, looking after the babies, needed a wider field of view to spot predators; greater testosterone, leading to more aggression, therefore greater competitiveness and quicker tissue regeneration, meaning transwomen can train longer and harder; larger lungs and heart, meaning greater stamina; larger feet, therefore greater stabilisation, especially if reaching.
@@ericthered2881watch the video and listen. She actually stated just some of the advantages 🤦♂️
@@hughtube5154Utter tosh. They're not playing rugby or football, they're hitting a ball with a stick of wood on a TABLE. Menstrual distractions???? Are you for real??? Every single one of your points could apply to singers in a competition - why don't we have gendered singing competitions? Likewise, nilotics are on average taller and more suited to running than caucasians: should we divide running by race? Epicanthic folds allow one to see better in harsh sunlight: should we have a separate archery sport for East Asians? If you continue to infantilize women, they will never be forced to improve themselves and become better players.
@@ericthered2881 the issue is a male player who couldn't hack it against fellow males because he wasn't good enough decided to chuck a wig on and play the ladies whose standard is lower and unfairly win matches.
Good on her! 👏👏👏
So proud of this woman! That man can wear what he wants, call himself what he wants but he needs to stay out of women's lanes!
A CON man.....
Well said, genuine strong woman
Sharron Davies has been screaming this from the rooftops for the last 15 or so that this is going to happen.
I am with you 100% Well DONE ❤
Well said Lynne. The whole Pool World is behind you.....
Yes!! And I truly believe more ppl agree with her than disagree
We seperate male and female sport for very obvious reasons.
Yeah but POOL???????? It takes no strength whatsoever
Yes and darts aswell I don't get that?
@@ericthered2881nothing to do with strength.
Women have a separate category because the male standard is a lot higher.
This particular trans player couldn't hack it against fellow males so decided to chuck a wig on and have an unfair advantage against the ladies.
Mostly right. There are two categories in these kinds of sports (e.g. snooker, pool, darts): 'open to all', and 'ladies only'. It's easy to assume the 'open to all' category is 'the mens' because it's male-dominated, but these tournament rules don't prohibit women, they just seldom qualify. I can't remember who was analysing this recently, but they put it down to the level of sacrifice and commitment it takes to get to this standard as something women often choose not to do.
@@ericthered2881well the break, the most important shot in pool, is highly strength dependent. Also increased reach with arms, longer fingers for bridging over a ball
You are amazing woman . We are all proud of you.
If all women banded together and just said NO there wouldn’t be this absolutely stupid situation. Well done to any woman for speaking up about this. It’s a disgrace that so many mentally ill men are being allowed to cheat in women’s sports, and bully women in this way.
Nothing surprises me any more! Because this world has gone absolutely crazy during the last few years. I feel like I've accidentally moved into a parallel universe. 😢
How is it cheating when it's literally a stick hitting balls
@@kikoosamura4973because men are better at everything
@@gareths2449 pov : sexism
@@kikoosamura4973 thank you
This woman is a STAR ⭐️. I hope she reads these comments to help her realise how much support she has. She’s done the right thing and if all female athletes walk away like her this silly nonsense would be over in an instant because trans women would “win” in principle but would not get the chance to break womens records. Funding would disappear and it would be over. Those in charge of this lunacy can’t force biological women to compete !
Yeh don't play against them ,,,there a bloke boxing women as trans ,,it's getting out of hand
Good for you, Lynne. You’ve something for all women.
You did not have a detrimental effect on another female player you might have slightly upset a MAN who was pretending to be a woman to cheat and gain an advantage as do all men in women's sports. You did the right thing and all women in sports that are being attacked by men should walk away.
Maybe she's just not very good at it and needs an excuse for why she keeps failing
@@angelainamarie9656no, like she said, there is an advantage with reach and strength in pool.
I guarantee 99 percent of pool players understand this, even the organisers.
They're just scared of the public outcry.
Well done that lady - the true spirit of sport. What's happening is just not cricket.
Good on her!
She is very clearly spoken and a great ambassador for her sport
This woman should be treated as the winner and receive any prizes accordingly.
Too right she was the top and only woman on the day after all (except I guess for the woman who lost her rightful place in the final)
She lost she doesn't deserve anything
That's a FACT
@@izoedyourbabydaddy7628imagine missing the point THAT badly. Yikes
Thank you for been strong and speak up 👍
This woman is the real champion
*winning semi-finalist
@@tonysplatterythe champ champ 🎉
These men aren't just in our sports, they are in our changing rooms too. For some, the sport is the means to the end.
This is about more than sport, The fight to preserve what little space we have, that women have carved out over the last 100 years, is seriously at risk.
The time has passed for the ' be kind' nonsense that got us to this point, be inspired by this wonderful, brave warrior of a woman. Start making some noise, we cant afford to lose this one.
Like Men have their own spaces ?????? yeah right !
@@steveoldfield2607 the entire world is a man's space. Anywhere in public, at night, is a man's space because some men's behaviour make it unsafe for women to walk alone at night in a significant portion of the planet. Plus, women don't tend to rape men in thier spaces. The reverse cannot be said.
@@steveoldfield2607Please give me even one example of a woman calling herself a man, stealing mens sporting awards and forcing unwilling men to see their genitals in the changing room. Just one verified instance of it happening. I'll wait.
@@steveoldfield2607create one, I f you need one (male only space). I am pretty sure there are enough male only clubs going already. Stop whinging.
The law is the problem, not the solution. Anti-discrimination laws force team managers to allow trans people, and human rights tribunals could raise lawsuits against female players who refuse to play against biological males due to the same gender discrimination laws. This problem is destroying womens' sports.
Incorrect interpretations of laws are indeed a problem. Wouldn't matter what the law was if the judicial system is ideologically captured.
This woman is a hero. Unfortunately other women are being cowardly so this nonsense continues.
There must be a good reason why trans women seem to excel in sport, although it escapes me for the moment. 😊
pure coincidence
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's a very ballsy comment
Transwoman win and lose in sports just like everyone else
@@izoedyourbabydaddy7628but when they play against women, they win a LOT more than when they played against men even before they started pretending to be women...I wonder why...
Legend.
Mass ladies walkout will be needed along with organisation leaders developing some backbone and not allow men in womens sport..
Star Woman❤ She nailed it - it's FUNDAMENTALLY UNFAIR. Whether you win or lose, it undermines the concept of categories. I'm glad she dumped the guilt response, her male oppo certainly isn't feeling any.
It’s the only way to stop this, girls, you have to walk away if a bloke turns up…
Biological women should not have to be forced to participate with the few (however many) men who just don’t wish to participate against their own sex. Merely identifying as female does discount what I a woman is innately. We aren’t being given a choice but to fight with men who decide this is how it will be. Transgender parties do not want to participate in co-Ed or trans category
All women need to start walking away and good on her.
Don't tell me he chalked the wrong cue in front of the woman.....
God bless this champion.
Solidarity, Lynne! Thank you for your bravery. And yes, how DID we get here? We are living in a dystopian nightmare.
Good on you for standing up for what you believe in. Its time they checked to see if competitors have two XX chromosomes or an X and a Y. If the latter then they need to make sure they are not in womens competions.
I can not Understand that people on the top can Not just say no to those transformers.
They can just say you cannot get in the tournament because you’re a man with balls And they are not a woman
Well said, he should be removed
Well done to the strength and wisdom for this amazing lady to stand up to this craziness, female sport is for female sport, if trans want to play there should b a separate category, they should not be able to participate in the female sport
Lynn saying what 99.9999999% of people think, good on you. The world has gone mad
Maybe you didn't win a final, but you made yourself a legend of the sport.
Well done for walking out! I hope more sports women do the same. This is ridiculous!
Well done Lynne, you have made a stand for women's rights and that is to be applauded.
Spot on, good girl
Opponent is male, he. Call him he
💯 % respect to you. You ladies should band together and form a collective and refuse to play trans competitors. Get your rights back!
Well said! I'm so proud of you! Thank you for taking a stand for your own and other women's sex based rights ❤ xx
The governing bodies must introduce a new category, Trans, Men and Women, three distinct categories for the three sexes. Until then Women will have to boycott any sport where a Trans person takes part. I respect your bravery in this matter.
There aren't 3 sexes in any mammal. Don't pander to this madness.
There are two sexes, not three. The third category would be for people with a dysphoria or those with a fetish for cosplaying the opposite sex.
I disagree, I think the answer is an open category where everyone can enter, even biological women and a protected women's category. That way everyone can compete but nobody with category advantages over women will warp their field of competition.
@@80PercentScottishnot people with dysphoria, just anyone who alters their body through the use of drugs.
Biological fact: Those born male tend to have vision that is significantly different to those born female. Those who have a Y chromosome tend to have vision that is better at focusing on a target. That is why having a Y chromosome gives an advantage in sports that involve focusing on targets (e.g. billiards, archery, shooting).
Do you think that harks back to when we hunted for our food?
Of course it does
AND darts! The female champion Deta refused to play a man.
I love her. All women should stand behind her on this.
I stand with the transwoman
You are definitely not the only one. We are the silent majority. Thank you and well done for standing up 💯💯💯
Took alot of balls literally to win that tournament!
At least bruce jenner won his medals before switching sides,well done that man
You weren't the disrespectful one in that situation. That decision showed a lot of strength. Fair play to you.
What a clear thinking, articulate woman. Well done Lynne. So sorry you had to do this, but thank you!
"Not a "trans" issue it is a fairness issue."
Good for you well done 💕
Everything she said is spot on , i truly feel for her . We are women and we deserve to be women together x
I would have thought that this would be the one sport (due to NO physical contact) that there wouldn't be an issue with transgender players. You have opened my eyes and mind.
Chess, darts, lawn bowling, and dressage would be the other possible sports, but even in chess women can't reach the same Elo rating as men.
It's not just the physical advantage. Women are often vastly outnumbered by men in these types of sports. This leads to them being the targets of a lot of harassment, sexual comments, and unfair treatment. Women's leagues offer women a place where they don't need to worry about that and creates a safe space where they can pursue the hobbies they enjoy.
@@Joy-kc5xz oh, stop it with these darn safe spaces. Men get harassed in sports too. It’s called talking trash. If you want to play in sports that’s just what it is.
@@johnobrien1759 yeah, they get harassed by other men. See this is why having women's sports without men is so great. We don't harass each other.
And you are completely right. She wasn’t good enough so sacked it before she got beat.
7:25 Did any of the people commenting that there is no male advantage listen to what she said here at all?🤨
Yes and I don't believe it applies to a transwoman on hrt. Hrt makes transwoman weaker so having long arms with less strength is an advantage?
@izoedyourbabydaddy7628 Your belief is irrelevant, the research shows that you can't mitigate the advantage from male puberty. The solution is simple, more categories need to be created and you don't have the right to force women to play against trans people. Women fought hard for their sports, nobody is stopping trans people from doing the same.
@@teecee2211 force means absence of choice. Woman can forfeit if they don't want to play against transwoman. And transwoman are fighting for the night to play sports as well. The advantage is lessened because when you compare trans athletes to male athletes they perform on a lower level. So how do they retain the advantages of male puberty but after hrt perform worse than they did before hrt?
@izoedyourbabydaddy7628 Trans people should fight for their own categories, trans women are men who have taken cross sex hormones. They are not women. That is the reality. If their performance is affected, that has nothing to do with women. Women fought for their sports and are still struggling with it. Go and read Unfair play by Sharon Davies and you will get more insights on what women had to endure for their own sports, and she outlines the science behind the fact that hormones doesn't mitigate male advantage.
Women should only play against women
Lynne Pinches is a champion in much more than pool.
Under the old rules the game could be played well by both sexes and there were several very good female players in the pub I played and often they won.
The game has totally changed and is all about power, and in my opinion spoilt it, and men have far more cue power than women.#
The professional game is totally different nowadays and women are at a disadvantage from the break off.
Good for you sweetheart ❤❤
You absolute star! 💯
Well done, so many people and sports fans support you. Thanks for taking this lead.
The division in sports has always been based on biology. Thus, why should gender identity trump the division based on biology? The biology remains male, hence, they must remain in the biological cateogory for men, or create their own category, but stop trying to be placed in the most protected category in sport - or at least it was until we decided Women's right don't matter.
Because POOL doesn't require upper body strength.
@@ericthered2881 This isn't chess, how hard you hit the ball matters. Same reason men and women are also separated in sports like curling, shooting, and sailing.
Sexist man here who had a lump in his throat seeing this lady get upset....I feel really bad for her and all women facing this impossible situation....cant speak out or you get jumped on and know you have to keep all the feelings inside...
No one cares on my opinion I'm just a straight white Englishman who gets constantly told my opinions arent wanted anymore but seeing this lady cry just got me when I didnt expect it..
For what it's worth they have my support an impossible situation they are now in...
Stay strong ❤❤❤❤
My comment seems to have a dissapeared... well done, all women should just walk out and they'll soon have to do something about it without these lunatics in charge.
Biological male...biological male.....biological male.....
It's MAN. Nothing else.
Totally agree with you.
I never thought about how a man definitely has a physical advantage... Longer fingers, longer arms, can hit the ball more powerfully.
You are being forced to play biologically advantaged men.
We're not talking American football ffs. It's POOL. There's no difference in genders
@@ericthered2881Men have better hand eye coordination than women. Pretty sure that translates into an advantage in games like snooker and pool.
@@Malky5279 Then why don't women WORK on that and PRACTISE and improve thhemselves?
@@ericthered2881 Because it doesn't ever wipe out the clear biological advantage when men are practicing just as hard. We have categories for a reason.
@@Malky5279 Yes, in rugby and football and running and swimming.... but in POOL?? The starting gap between the two is not insurmountable for women. If they have to put more effort in, then suck it up buttercup. If i wanted to be a basketball player, I'd have to train harder because I have flat feet. I wouldn't expect an entire league for people at my skill level just because I want to win. By refusing to play with better players than herself, the woman in this video is doing EXACTLY what that trans man is doing. Neither of them will improve and neither of them want to put in the effort to improve themselves.
She absolutely did the right thing. And she should not feel any sympathy for her opponent. He was cheating by wanting to play in the female category. It is the men's category that needs to become more flexible to accommodate men who want to live as women.
Keep walking away Lynne, that's the only way men will be kicked ou!
You are our QUEEN you hero love from NZ xxx
Im 74 i never thought i never thought i would see nonsense like this
How did we get to this point?😤 It's beyond absurd and cruel to allow these men to play against women in sport🥺💔
thank you for share it with us ) it was hard look how you left table you was not running from problem you was brave go on it ! big respect and suport you are real winner ❤🙏💪
In Tranada (Canada), a man in his 50s was allowed to "compete" with preteen girls because he "identifies as a girl". And he was in their locker room too
She shouldn’t have had to do that. The audience should have walked out too.
I support every single woman athlete who refuses to compete in a competition where trans men are allowed to compete. All of these women athletes ought to band together and sue the crap out of those who are allowing & promoting this travesty! Stand up and don’t be afraid! You must not allow yourselves to have your dreams that you worked so hard for be taken away from you.
Thank you on behalf of all women and girls
you are so strong and im so mad about this! your work was spit on the second he stepped foot on the stage... you are a real champion. no one can take that from you!
This is what we need. More female sportswoman standing up for future sportswoman.... much respect
You absolutely did the right thing. There will be no womens sports left if this doesn't stop. Men who identify as women need a category of their own.
Yes the beta male cheat category.
incredibly brave action - thank you, Lynne. I tried (unsuccessfully) to stand up in my sport (a contact team sport) against male players and had to walk away for good. It is incredibly hard to stand up - my team was destroyed because of it. We need more women like Lynne.
What a great speaker. Lynne makes perfect sense.
Well done support i would of done the same thing. walk away if you have a willie between the leg and dress up in women clothe you are a man not a female .
Good for her. He’s a cheat.
Congratulations 🎉
Nobody should accept this nonsense madness
I know men have significant advantage of strength in certain sports but how exactly does that cross over to pool?
You don't play better pool if you hit the ball harder! Edit: ah ok, just read the strength allows you to break harder and potentially pocket more balls from the break. Fair enough.
I don’t see how anyone could disagree with any point she made. Extremely reasonable
Then I'll tell you. Being male brings you no advantages in a sport like pool.
@@ericthered2881 Yeah I'm confused by what she's saying. The comments section is typical youtube trolling trans people so whatever, but the way she's talking, as if pool is like rugby. I don't get it.
@@ericthered2881lol.. you've obviously never played the game. If your theory is correct then why is there even a women's category in the first place? And why is it there are hundreds of male pool players better than the top one female pool player in the world? Seriously give your head a wobble 🤦♂️
@@Ayatron34she clearly stated just some of the advantages men have over women. If you've played the game you would know 👍
@@blackgrape73 Again, if power mattered so much why arent Snooker players built like athletes? Why aren't pool players? Why arent they jacked? Why are most cue sport players weak, balding, middle aged men?
Some people might wonder why men would have an advantage at pool. It's not about strength, height etc, as this lady thinks. It's to do with spatial awareness and motor skills for things like throwing and aiming (and Pool). Scientific fact that men consistently perform better at these. Millions of years of evolution have wired men and women's brains and bodies differently, to specialise at different tasks and roles. You can't change that.
Sounds like bullshit to me. To her argument , if power mattered that much in snooker/cue sports then why do wimps like Peter Ebdon reach the highest levels? To your argument, if it is true, and there are intangible genetic advantages, you could also make the same case for separating black people from white people in the NBA and in the 100 metre sprint then, cos the last time a white man made the finals was like the 1970's. It's pool, not rugby. The reason women lag behind is likely the same reason they do in chess. Smaller talent pool due to less women playing.
Why is it that transwomen can easily make it to the top in women's sports but transmen can't get to the top in men's sports?
I WONDER WHY!
Agree. Set up a trans league.
Where are we as a society where this can happen?
To everyone saying "theres no difference in this sport".
Scientifically, men have better handeye coordination than women, in fact the human man has one of the best hand eye coordination skills in the entire animal kingdom.