On the Grech, you missed that the AC is Gree. We have one and they are super quiet! Game changer. Also, the microwave is also an air fryer and also a convection oven. The Terreno Ion is 4x4, not all wheel drive. Much better. Also 1260 amp hour lithionics battery and no generator, no propane needed. Game changer!
For big bathroom, watch some of Snow & Curt's older videos. They have a genius way of doing bathroom, including 'never ending shower with filters etc. I am surprised that 'big' companies are not adopting that setup. Thank you for showing us these cool setups! ❤
Thanks guys. The more reviews you do, the more I'm convinced having a custom van built was the best decision for us. Headed out soon on another 2 week boondocking trip. Sorry to miss you at Lake Tahoe at the Adventure Van Expo. That expo last year ( in Santa Rosa CA ) sold us on getting a custom van!
Awesome, so many vans!! Love how they make the 71k "discount" happen, lol....that's the real price 79, not the post covid inflation prices we are seeing.
Please keep doing these videos! These are great for people shopping, but they are also great for people like me who already own a Class B (2023 Thor Tranquility 19L)! I hate going to these things because of salespeople, I don't want to talk to anyone, I'm just looking for ideas! So by watching your videos I can get ideas, thank you!
The first ever small RV show I went to, multiple dealers, was so chill. No high pressure sales tactics, just there if you have questions. Then I went to a small RV show, well, just a local dealer that displayed some units at a mall parking lot, was the absolute worst. Now, it started fine, the salesperson I’ve been working with the last few months was there and chill. Got to meet Marshall from Pleasure-Way, then I was going to think a bit. That’s when I learned these shows are the Wild West for salesman. Meaning, usually at the dealer, even at another location, if you mention your main salesperson, they now know they can help you, but cannot take the commission. Not at the RV Show. So sometimes it’s like a challenge to use every tactic to get the sale that day. Swoop in if another salesperson leaves you, etc. They often send or even fly in their best salesman to get the most out of what can be an expensive operation to move all those units to a show. My own salesperson could not even intervene or interrupt once another salesperson started talking to me.
I’m with you on the permanent bed, Our old class b, coachmen beyond, was awesome but had to convert the bed daily. A complete PIA! Never again. Went with the Solis 59px
Appreciate your tours & input! The last one was weird. Toilet/coffee/fridge😮The first one was a nice price & seemed ok for a starter van! 👍 I think I like my beds made all day too. Loving your tshirts so may have to get a couple! Keep up the great work & adventure! Mr. Lemon "grows" on you! 🥰🎉🍋Oh also loved your last two northern Arizona campsites! 👍
We were at this show on Thursday. We are downsizing from a class A. We looked at some of these layouts. I think there are some interesting options in the vans, but a smaller class C works better for us. There are some definite advantages to these vans but they don’t work for our lifestyle. But there are some really nice B van options Thank you
Love watching you and will continue. I love your reviews in your hacks and the things that can go wrong. I looked at vans for a long time, and decided last week to buy a brand new 2023 closeout year 27 foot globetrotter with a full solar package. Period anxiety attacks whether or not I made the right choice however, at the moment I’m feeling pretty good about it. It’s being ceramic coated at the moment, thank you for your reviews and your advice
Good video Getting back close to 2019 prices. That’s why we bought a B Van in July. We have a brand new 2023 Coachman Nova 20C Li3 , love it. It’s motorhome #2. The other one is a 43 ft Winnebago Horizon 42 Q
I went to that event with my wife. It re-enforced my desire to build out my own with a high roof. Shower towards the front with an exhaust fan, AC centrally located, and a two way fan ovwr the bed in the back would be ideal.
Just got my Class B. Entegra Ethos 20D and I’m obsessed with you guys. Keep up the good work. You guys are helping me. I just jumped in on mine, kinda wish I would have found you earlier. Safe travels.
Great video, like I tell everyone from now on, if you buy an RV be prepared to do your own repairs. We bought ours last year and oh my God, even with the warranty. I knew this going into it but it is just alot. If you are not technical and don't live near a dealership, it will be painful, just my 2 cents. I like the price of the Dazzle and the rear open design, Thor just made I think the 19R.
Quality of our grech and customer service is unreal. We easily live out of that fridge in the turismo for a week. We went to buy a revel, but after researching and looking at the Grech’s it was worth the price and the easy access to calling them and getting instant responses via email, phone call, or text. You can negotiate quite a bit off those prices you showed too. At least another 25k. Almost 1500 amp hours of lithium is amazing.
Van #6 At least the fridge isn't on the floor, like the oven. I think that is a new feature. The Lusso is my dream van! I'm just waiting for them to make the 144" version like Midwest has. You know, when I win the lottery! Until then, only in my dreams!
Out of all of them I think the Dazzle is the best bang for the buck. We've looked at the Dazzle at our local RV Show and think it would be workable for us. But - now we're looking at a Class C instead!
Actually, Dazzle's bed converts into a larger bed. Two aluminum braces slide out from just under the driver's side bed and attach on braces on the other bed. The two large, rectangle couch/bed cushions have a solid back （on the left bed @7:17in the video） These fit perfectly on these braces between the two beds. This makes one very large bed. We use this feature all the time. Also, you can use just one or both. We usually put the one closer to the front of the van at bedtime. This gives our dog a place to sleep, while it still gives easy access to the bathroom at night!
2024 Tellaro owner 2.5 months. Yes going for few warranty repairs just cosmetic, but 4 camping trips for heat/ hot water via propane works. Generator via regular gas works. 200 watts lithium runs most systems including fridge. Same as Mr lemon as yours. Wet bath same as yours. We paid 99000. Very happy. Ram 3600. Can find repair ram dealers almost any where. Mercedes not in all areas for repairs. We happy retired and did not want to go into big debt for camper van
The Lusso is for companies to lease for their executive short travels or a limo company that have contracts to companies to shuttle execs around. Would have loved to have that option when I was moving execs around. Also could be used for a large wealthy family for soccer mom stuff.
Headed up Hershey tomorrow evening. I'm sure I'll get my fill of motorhomes. Midwest Design is a brand we really want to check out. Thanks for sharing.
The Lusso captain chairs arm rests, I believe, open to reveal a personal tray that lifts out. There was also more AC from the vents on the wall where the pizza oven storage is usually is. Salesman once said that AC spot was 50000BTU, give or take . Few months ago at a La Mesa I was shown one marked from $299k to $199k. Salesman said it was a really good deal, make some money with it, but quite a jump from the $110k used Midwest Ford Transit I was came to check nor practical. Though, they did have a used 2022 Grech Strada (non ion battery version) used for $139k, beautiful, but on the longer 24ft extended Sprinter. That seemed like a good deal if you want that quality and don’t need lithium.
I just got back from a 3 week road trip to Newfoundland. It was awesome! 75% of the campers were vans. My take away...#1 Get OFF ROAD tires even if you think you don't need them.
Way above my pay grade, I have a Roam roof top tent that sites on the top of a utility trailer and hauls my quad. 5K tops lol. I am commenting to help my Vancaskeys friends. Fun dream video.
Yes, if it is the BMPro like in my Thor Sanctuary 19P, it's mainly bluetooth even though it has wifi, you have to have a wifi connection close by. I have T-mobile($40 a month) that I keep constant internet in the van to keep internet on, so it works through wifi but if no wifi, just bluetooth and you have to be real close. That was bummer for me, so I quickly solved that issue. Sadly, it does not give you SOC for your batteries, State of Charge, it just gives you voltages, all that money for a system that can't give you the basics.
: ) WOW ! OMG you have a LOT of RV Shows to share, and YES, that IS OUTRAGEOUS indeed ! Like the Solis, BUT, would you recommend or buy another Thor? ALL the BEST and Cheers !
Shower Door: Carl that owns a Midwest replaced their curtain with a Nautilus Shower door by Stoett Industries. It’s a 4 rail system and wicks the water away when closed and then down into the rail and drain (just don’t install it backwards). Here is a video of their install. Note, your curtains still do the job of hiding the bathroom. Carl still has their normal bathroom door combined with this. Also, I hope the offset opening of your bathroom doesn’t complicate this type of shower door. ua-cam.com/video/xfBnISaB_Zo/v-deo.htmlsi=kYzSXWFPDaThcEPG
In Arizona, Vehicle License Tax (VLT) is part of your vehicle registration fee. In Arizona, a VLT is assessed in place of a personal property tax charged by other states. The VLT is based on an assessed value of 60 percent of the manufacturer’s base retail price reduced by 16.25 percent for each year since the vehicle was first registered (15 percent before 8/1/98). So the elephant in the room is although they show HUGE discounts off the MSRP, you get killed each year on registration fees. So I recently purchased a 20 year old Born Free class C and really enjoyed minimal registration costs, no sales tax (private party sales in AZ have no sales tax) and low insurance costs. Yes, my gas costs will be higher, but I make up for that in every other area. And little depreciation, the ability to tow toys and way more room inside. And no payments! If you must make payments on one of these new RVs, you really can’t afford it.
On one of your videos. You said you lived in North Dakota. I live in Grand Forks. I was wondering where did you guys lived? I'm really enjoying your videos.
I would like to see a travota. I would either like ram promaster or Ford. I've seen alot of the thor vans but not the winnebago travota or the ecko. If they are anyway that you go, can you show me them? I'm not sure on the year though. Thankyou😊
Grech are Beautiful Vans. For the Luxury Pricepoint everybody is charging, I would have a Custom Van built at Advanced RV. No Question. It’s a lot of money. Get what you want. Thanks!
I love my 2018 Winnebago travato K floor plan I bought new. Has everything I want. Anybody who spends this much money on a class B camper van without a built-in toilet and shower with black and grey tanks is crazy.
Are y'all going from talking about Mr. Lemon to brand ambassadors for Thor? (We started off with a Thor ACE...much the same experience as you've had with Mr. Lemon. During that first year, CW had it more than we did. We won't be buying another Thor product...altho' I will say, they look pretty and are designed nicely. Love y'all's videos. ❤🙏 Jane
Thanks Jane! Not ambassadors 😂 but they are the cheapest so we always show a few for those that just want to get into a Van. We always say whatever RV you buy get an inspection before buying! No matter the brand. That’s our lesson we learned the hard way 🤪😂
Love your videos, although I don't understand why you would show any video on a brand you own and whose product you've coined "Mr Lemon". Maybe because you want to be impartial to it? If I had a channel and my RV had to go to so many fixes and upgrades, rest assured that I would not show their products and focus on something else - but that's me. I do have to say again a BIG THANKS for all your content because it helped us to decide on our future RV: a Leisure Travel Van, Unity 24TB. We'll order it and the production time is a little far but we hope it's worth the wait.
Thanks! Well we know lots of people that have had great experiences with them and we don’t want our experience to affect everyone else. We really just believe that before buying any rv it’s smart to get an inspection done to make sure you don’t get stuck with a lemon like us 😂 hopefully sharing our experiences help others. You picked out a fantastic van!!! Congrats!
Bob it strikes me weird that in van 3 you cannot convert that into a single bed. I have that same layout on my Thor Tellaro and there are 3 rails that slide out on the drivers side bed and simply slide right into the passengers side bed. I wonder why thor would have made a change by leaving that option out. 🤔
Great Video. I would love both your input. Looking through your videos and comparing my needs , i.e. there is only me and the dog but I like quality. The EKKO is definitely of interest but given me and the dog could be too much. I am leaning to the Travato 59k. Would you both be able to at least give a 👍or 👎 incase I have missed something or need to look some more.
Those are really small tvs in those really expensive Grechs. That last Grech is gross that the bathroom is in the kitchen. Using the toilet would spread all kinds of germs.
Okay, the last one.....hear me out..... Bougie youth travel baseball team! Coach + 9 players Then get a hitch mounted cargo carrier for all their gear. The "bathroom" though? Uhhhhhh.
On the Grech, you missed that the AC is Gree. We have one and they are super quiet! Game changer. Also, the microwave is also an air fryer and also a convection oven. The Terreno Ion is 4x4, not all wheel drive. Much better. Also 1260 amp hour lithionics battery and no generator, no propane needed. Game changer!
Oh, sorry did you guys see any of the new ProMaster platforms with the higher roofs? Love you guys to, most down to earth van bloggers ever!
No but we will be seeing and touring one this weekend…stay tuned!
@@Vancaskeys Headed there as well
@@John-ve6ms sweet! 🥳
Need to take closer look at Noovo, but still a few things missing for me. I will say hello at display tomorrow.
For big bathroom, watch some of Snow & Curt's older videos. They have a genius way of doing bathroom, including 'never ending shower with filters etc.
I am surprised that 'big' companies are not adopting that setup.
Thank you for showing us these cool setups! ❤
Thanks guys. The more reviews you do, the more I'm convinced having a custom van built was the best decision for us. Headed out soon on another 2 week boondocking trip. Sorry to miss you at Lake Tahoe at the Adventure Van Expo. That expo last year ( in Santa Rosa CA ) sold us on getting a custom van!
You guys have an awesome Van! Have fun on your next adventure!
Who built your van?
@@kal7049 Automotive Design and Fabrication of Simi Valley.
Yes that’s the shows I’d like. Adventure customs! Pricier, but solid vehicles. And custom! Did I mention custom? 😅
Great review. One note. The Thor Rize does have a sink in the bathroom. It folds down above the toilet
Yep I too was going to mention that
Awesome, so many vans!! Love how they make the 71k "discount" happen, lol....that's the real price 79, not the post covid inflation prices we are seeing.
Totally agree! 👍🏼
Yo Vancaskeys, great job, as is your thing. Best vloggers online!
We appreciate that! Thanks!
Please keep doing these videos! These are great for people shopping, but they are also great for people like me who already own a Class B (2023 Thor Tranquility 19L)! I hate going to these things because of salespeople, I don't want to talk to anyone, I'm just looking for ideas! So by watching your videos I can get ideas, thank you!
Awww thank you for this!!!! So happy you like them! 😊
The first ever small RV show I went to, multiple dealers, was so chill. No high pressure sales tactics, just there if you have questions. Then I went to a small RV show, well, just a local dealer that displayed some units at a mall parking lot, was the absolute worst.
Now, it started fine, the salesperson I’ve been working with the last few months was there and chill. Got to meet Marshall from Pleasure-Way, then I was going to think a bit. That’s when I learned these shows are the Wild West for salesman. Meaning, usually at the dealer, even at another location, if you mention your main salesperson, they now know they can help you, but cannot take the commission.
Not at the RV Show. So sometimes it’s like a challenge to use every tactic to get the sale that day. Swoop in if another salesperson leaves you, etc. They often send or even fly in their best salesman to get the most out of what can be an expensive operation to move all those units to a show. My own salesperson could not even intervene or interrupt once another salesperson started talking to me.
I love when you do these videos! Sneak peeks are great.
Just want to say I love your videos and honestly you deserve more subscribers/viewers!!!!
Awwww 😭you are so sweet! Thank you! 😊
I agree!
Absolutely
I still like your Mr Lemon best! Functional & your upgrades make it better. I still like my 2022 Thor Rize 18M with my customization. 😎
I’m with you on the permanent bed, Our old class b, coachmen beyond, was awesome but had to convert the bed daily. A complete PIA! Never again. Went with the Solis 59px
Thanks you guys! Very Informative. We would NEVER buy what we have named, the kitchen crapper. The last van 😂 what the hey is up with that lol
How nice! A strikingly handsome guy and a really cute lady talking about one of my favorite subjects: 'B Vans!
Appreciate your tours & input! The last one was weird. Toilet/coffee/fridge😮The first one was a nice price & seemed ok for a starter van! 👍 I think I like my beds made all day too. Loving your tshirts so may have to get a couple! Keep up the great work & adventure! Mr. Lemon "grows" on you! 🥰🎉🍋Oh also loved your last two northern Arizona campsites! 👍
The Lusso would be the ultimate tailgating party van or, as you mentioned, the ultimate bachelor or bachelorette party limo.
True!
Exactly, that's not an RV it's a limo. There are a ton of them driving around New Orleans instead of stretched out towncars.
We were at this show on Thursday. We are downsizing from a class A. We looked at some of these layouts. I think there are some interesting options in the vans, but a smaller class C works better for us.
There are some definite advantages to these vans but they don’t work for our lifestyle.
But there are some really nice B van options
Thank you
Love watching you and will continue. I love your reviews in your hacks and the things that can go wrong. I looked at vans for a long time, and decided last week to buy a brand new 2023 closeout year 27 foot globetrotter with a full solar package. Period anxiety attacks whether or not I made the right choice however, at the moment I’m feeling pretty good about it. It’s being ceramic coated at the moment, thank you for your reviews and your advice
We are so excited for you!!!!! That’s a great choice!!!!
Good video
Getting back close to 2019 prices.
That’s why we bought a B Van in July.
We have a brand new 2023 Coachman Nova 20C Li3 , love it.
It’s motorhome #2.
The other one is a 43 ft Winnebago Horizon 42 Q
I went to that event with my wife. It re-enforced my desire to build out my own with a high roof. Shower towards the front with an exhaust fan, AC centrally located, and a two way fan ovwr the bed in the back would be ideal.
👏👏👏
I like your hustle. You guys are really churning out the content lately. It's very inspiring.
Absolutely get a third party inspection on any RV purchase new or used.
💯 agree! Always!
We gladly 660 dollars by certified inspector with 600 pages of info and all systems tested to grade.
Thor doesn't make lemons. Thor is much worse than lemons.
We just purchased the 2024 Thor Dazzle, and we love it!! And it was at that price! 😊
Thank you folks, I never thought I would see an affordable new Rv like these (79K) in America. Finally something I can afford.
What about a Nautilus Door for your bathroom?
That’s what I went to get 👍🏼
That Gretch Lusso design feels like it should be your luxury tow vehicle behind a big Class A diesel pusher!
Just got my Class B. Entegra Ethos 20D and I’m obsessed with you guys. Keep up the good work. You guys are helping me. I just jumped in on mine, kinda wish I would have found you earlier. Safe travels.
Please do a review of the Maxvan Access. It looks very interesting and unlike anything out there in the Market.
Nice tour of the B Vans. Much appreciated!
So that last Gretch is a fancy party van ;)
ETA I'm a little grossed out by the fridge across from the toilet
The Rize has a bathroom sink - it is a fold down like the Dazzle. Also, I think that the final van was targeting tailgaters.
That last one looks more like a party van, more for youger people. I want comfort, plain and simple.
Great video, like I tell everyone from now on, if you buy an RV be prepared to do your own repairs. We bought ours last year and oh my God, even with the warranty. I knew this going into it but it is just alot. If you are not technical and don't live near a dealership, it will be painful, just my 2 cents. I like the price of the Dazzle and the rear open design, Thor just made I think the 19R.
The last one is like a party bus that I could imagine the Kardashians using 😂
On the bathroom door the nautilus shower door operations like that. It is used in a lot of custom van builds.
Love you guys, but disappointed because the only Chassis I am interested in would be the Ford Transit.....maybe next time! :o)
Yeah! We could only find 1 ford chassis and it was a van we already did a full review on. We weee disappointed by tho too.
Quality of our grech and customer service is unreal. We easily live out of that fridge in the turismo for a week. We went to buy a revel, but after researching and looking at the Grech’s it was worth the price and the easy access to calling them and getting instant responses via email, phone call, or text. You can negotiate quite a bit off those prices you showed too. At least another 25k. Almost 1500 amp hours of lithium is amazing.
Can you guys do a show on class B for couples for long trips? Don’t need additional seats or bunk beds.
Van #6 At least the fridge isn't on the floor, like the oven. I think that is a new feature. The Lusso is my dream van! I'm just waiting for them to make the 144" version like Midwest has. You know, when I win the lottery! Until then, only in my dreams!
The Tellaro fyi, has a pull down sink
Yeah...totally missed that. Crazy too because we have the same set up in our van LOL
Those units from Grech RV are top quality. I'd choose the Ion Strada but would never pay that price. Still love our Winnebago Travato!
I feel the truth on your review and videos.
Keep the good work.
Out of all of them I think the Dazzle is the best bang for the buck. We've looked at the Dazzle at our local RV Show and think it would be workable for us. But - now we're looking at a Class C instead!
The Dazzle Thor Motor Coach for $84K is one of my preferred choices. But I would prefer the bed to extend into a larger bed as an option.
Actually, Dazzle's bed converts into a larger bed. Two aluminum braces slide out from just under the driver's side bed and attach on braces on the other bed. The two large, rectangle couch/bed cushions have a solid back （on the left bed @7:17in the video） These fit perfectly on these braces between the two beds. This makes one very large bed. We use this feature all the time. Also, you can use just one or both. We usually put the one closer to the front of the van at bedtime. This gives our dog a place to sleep, while it still gives easy access to the bathroom at night!
Shower door " nautilus shower door". Found it on stoett outdoors
2024 Tellaro owner 2.5 months. Yes going for few warranty repairs just cosmetic, but 4 camping trips for heat/ hot water via propane works. Generator via regular gas works. 200 watts lithium runs most systems including fridge. Same as Mr lemon as yours. Wet bath same as yours. We paid 99000. Very happy. Ram 3600. Can find repair ram dealers almost any where. Mercedes not in all areas for repairs. We happy retired and did not want to go into big debt for camper van
The Lusso is for companies to lease for their executive short travels or a limo company that have contracts to companies to shuttle execs around. Would have loved to have that option when I was moving execs around. Also could be used for a large wealthy family for soccer mom stuff.
The bed "inclines" might be a nice addition to you van😊 Also, some 360 outside lighting would be cool.
Great tours.. short, sweet and to the point!
It’s the Nautilis shower sliding shower dy
@2:40 the Thor Rize sink is a pull down sink , whicjh works really well in my Tellaro
Headed up Hershey tomorrow evening. I'm sure I'll get my fill of motorhomes.
Midwest Design is a brand we really want to check out. Thanks for sharing.
The Lusso captain chairs arm rests, I believe, open to reveal a personal tray that lifts out. There was also more AC from the vents on the wall where the pizza oven storage is usually is. Salesman once said that AC spot was 50000BTU, give or take .
Few months ago at a La Mesa I was shown one marked from $299k to $199k. Salesman said it was a really good deal, make some money with it, but quite a jump from the $110k used Midwest Ford Transit I was came to check nor practical.
Though, they did have a used 2022 Grech Strada (non ion battery version) used for $139k, beautiful, but on the longer 24ft extended Sprinter. That seemed like a good deal if you want that quality and don’t need lithium.
Great video. I would be interested in the van’s power. AGM or lithium. How many amp hours and how much solar 👍🏼
I listed some of that on the spec card on the screen. I was trying to find as much info as I could on each van 😃
We have the dazzle and it will make into one big bed. We leave it separate so we can keep in bed form all the time
I'm interested in the Panoramic RV
We will look for one to tour!
Nice job!
It's very interesting that they have such deep discounts 🤨
Thanks! We thought that same thing. Do they just mark them up so they can discount them?
With the exception of the upper end vans prices have really come down. Heard sales of RV have tanked in recent months.
We’ve heard that too.
I just got back from a 3 week road trip to Newfoundland. It was awesome! 75% of the campers were vans. My take away...#1 Get OFF ROAD tires even if you think you don't need them.
Way above my pay grade, I have a Roam roof top tent that sites on the top of a utility trailer and hauls my quad. 5K tops lol. I am commenting to help my Vancaskeys friends. Fun dream video.
IIRC Gretsch builds all their models as heavily insulated for 4 season use including heating. For 200 grand, at least you get something.
True! That is a great feature.
Might want to mention if they have solar and/or generator. Great Video!
Does the BM Pro control system maybe hook up to your phone so the screen is on your phone?
My guess is yes.
Yes, if it is the BMPro like in my Thor Sanctuary 19P, it's mainly bluetooth even though it has wifi, you have to have a wifi connection close by. I have T-mobile($40 a month) that I keep constant internet in the van to keep internet on, so it works through wifi but if no wifi, just bluetooth and you have to be real close. That was bummer for me, so I quickly solved that issue. Sadly, it does not give you SOC for your batteries, State of Charge, it just gives you voltages, all that money for a system that can't give you the basics.
Great reviews. What wool you recommend at 90k-125k.
: ) WOW ! OMG you have a LOT of RV Shows to share, and YES, that IS OUTRAGEOUS indeed ! Like the Solis, BUT, would you recommend or buy another Thor? ALL the BEST and Cheers !
That last one is crazy! What if someone wants a drink and someone else is in the bathroom???
Hahahaha! Right!!!?!
Shower Door: Carl that owns a Midwest replaced their curtain with a Nautilus Shower door by Stoett Industries. It’s a 4 rail system and wicks the water away when closed and then down into the rail and drain (just don’t install it backwards). Here is a video of their install. Note, your curtains still do the job of hiding the bathroom. Carl still has their normal bathroom door combined with this. Also, I hope the offset opening of your bathroom doesn’t complicate this type of shower door.
ua-cam.com/video/xfBnISaB_Zo/v-deo.htmlsi=kYzSXWFPDaThcEPG
In Arizona, Vehicle License Tax (VLT) is part of your vehicle registration fee. In Arizona, a VLT is assessed in place of a personal property tax charged by other states. The VLT is based on an assessed value of 60 percent of the manufacturer’s base retail price reduced by 16.25 percent for each year since the vehicle was first registered (15 percent before 8/1/98). So the elephant in the room is although they show HUGE discounts off the MSRP, you get killed each year on registration fees. So I recently purchased a 20 year old Born Free class C and really enjoyed minimal registration costs, no sales tax (private party sales in AZ have no sales tax) and low insurance costs. Yes, my gas costs will be higher, but I make up for that in every other area. And little depreciation, the ability to tow toys and way more room inside. And no payments! If you must make payments on one of these new RVs, you really can’t afford it.
On one of your videos. You said you lived in North Dakota. I live in Grand Forks. I was wondering where did you guys lived? I'm really enjoying your videos.
We used to live in Fargo!
I would like to see a travota. I would either like ram promaster or Ford. I've seen alot of the thor vans but not the winnebago travota or the ecko. If they are anyway that you go, can you show me them? I'm not sure on the year though. Thankyou😊
Grech are Beautiful Vans. For the Luxury Pricepoint everybody is charging, I would have a Custom Van built at Advanced RV. No Question. It’s a lot of money. Get what you want. Thanks!
Show us some custom builds! I love vanture customs
I love my 2018 Winnebago travato K floor plan I bought new. Has everything I want.
Anybody who spends this much money on a class B camper van without a built-in toilet and shower with black and grey tanks is crazy.
Thanks, great review
Thanks for watching!
The last one is for group day touring. Has to be.
Agree!
Are y'all going from talking about Mr. Lemon to brand ambassadors for Thor? (We started off with a Thor ACE...much the same experience as you've had with Mr. Lemon. During that first year, CW had it more than we did. We won't be buying another Thor product...altho' I will say, they look pretty and are designed nicely. Love y'all's videos. ❤🙏 Jane
Thanks Jane! Not ambassadors 😂 but they are the cheapest so we always show a few for those that just want to get into a Van. We always say whatever RV you buy get an inspection before buying! No matter the brand. That’s our lesson we learned the hard way 🤪😂
Can you find the new thor Compass Trip..it just came out and is there
Love your videos, although I don't understand why you would show any video on a brand you own and whose product you've coined "Mr Lemon". Maybe because you want to be impartial to it? If I had a channel and my RV had to go to so many fixes and upgrades, rest assured that I would not show their products and focus on something else - but that's me. I do have to say again a BIG THANKS for all your content because it helped us to decide on our future RV: a Leisure Travel Van, Unity 24TB. We'll order it and the production time is a little far but we hope it's worth the wait.
Thanks! Well we know lots of people that have had great experiences with them and we don’t want our experience to affect everyone else. We really just believe that before buying any rv it’s smart to get an inspection done to make sure you don’t get stuck with a lemon like us 😂 hopefully sharing our experiences help others. You picked out a fantastic van!!! Congrats!
Have you seen the Entegra arc 18c or Jayco Comet 18c I'd be interested in what you thought
Yikes, It’s like that old Fraiser episode: No one could believe Lilith would eat in the bathroom 😮😝👍
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The last one ifs for football fans to tailgate with.
Airstream’s Interstate 24GT B van is $300,000 MSRP 😮 Hersey price $249,995
did a search for rv retractable shower door and several options came up.
Check out the Nexus Rebel 28r super c.
Bob it strikes me weird that in van 3 you cannot convert that into a single bed. I have that same layout on my Thor Tellaro and there are 3 rails that slide out on the drivers side bed and simply slide right into the passengers side bed. I wonder why thor would have made a change by leaving that option out. 🤔
The last one is outrageous for sure and tast 3 is too much unless you have money to burn. I afford it but I won't buy those. Good video 👌👍
Great Video. I would love both your input. Looking through your videos and comparing my needs , i.e. there is only me and the dog but I like quality. The EKKO is definitely of interest but given me and the dog could be too much. I am leaning to the Travato 59k. Would you both be able to at least give a 👍or 👎 incase I have missed something or need to look some more.
Hi, Do you guys know when there will be a "real" RV show in Phx and not the LaMesa sponsored shows? 🤔Thanks
Those are really small tvs in those really expensive Grechs. That last Grech is gross that the bathroom is in the kitchen. Using the toilet would spread all kinds of germs.
Wow, I am taken back by those prices. I could buy super C or a small class A for those prices.
Aren't those shower doors called Nautilus?
Yes! We need one LOL
Do they have similar shows in South Florida?
Dang, not a single Ford Transit awd. Guess I’ll keep my Hymer for another year 🤷♂️
Where can we find such great discount van?
Custom van builds are so much nicer than these, and they are way more affordable
That last one is a high roller's rig. Better come with Jennifer Lawrence as my private concierge.
The 79k were absolutely more practical and bang for your buck
That Lusso...def not designed by anyone familiar with the concept of cross contamination...
Okay, the last one.....hear me out.....
Bougie youth travel baseball team!
Coach + 9 players
Then get a hitch mounted cargo carrier for all their gear.
The "bathroom" though? Uhhhhhh.
Ok….you have something here! I can see that!
Can you walk through a small 5th wheeler. 30 feet or less thanks