When Steve Davis Faced A 17-Year-Old Ronnie O'Sullivan...
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Nearly 30 years later and Ronnie is still at the top. Imagine being constantly good at something for that length of time.
I've been good at plumbing for that length of time.
9kids says I’ve found my nichè.
Ronnie played so different back then, you don't really notice it until you watch these old clips again.
Roger rederer and tiger woods
@@HOEA-WAKA But evidently not a pharmacy! ;-) Just kidding, more power to you.
Wow this kid’s got potential, I wish him well for the future
Now he is no longer a kid 😂😂
He looks older than 17
@@chinchin6509 he’s clearly joking
Are you having a laugh? Or you are so ignorant and been on another planet for most of your life? 🤯😂 this was 29 years ago!
@@softshallow7435 no way, are you for real? I’ve never heard of him, looks like a good player though 🙂
Had forgotten about that referee, Len Ganley, a fixture of snooker of that era. Was a good player himself, with a high break of 136.
even had a song compos3ed about him..The Len Ganley Stance by Half Man Half Biscuit
That red into the bottom courner after steves safety, WOW!! Match winner.
Love how Steve stays on his feet expecting Ronny to miss that one, and then in the next camera shot he is sitting back down again, lmao, ... that was perfect.
@@TailSpin46 Because that would of happened 99% of the time. Think when Steve saw that he just thought no point stressing this one - lets just sit and enjoy the show
That was the moment Steve knew. He knew this guy was better in every department apart from snookers but who needs snookers or long ball safety when you can pot like that on a pressure ball. Steve knew
Ronnie's game since hasn't changed all that much since, still frenetic pace when in full flow with touch of flamboyance too. Just goes to show his method of how to play the game has remained as the standard for 30 years. Pure genius.
And he play’s just as well left handed now
@@mrcakey5856 um back then he did... look up the match after Alain Robidoux, where, Ronnie played left handed and beat Ebdon. The guy was touched by god...lol. all his 147's but better was the 146. What a pure 'Ronnie' moment.
His pace isn’t frenetic, it’s perfect. When he’s on a break his timing and rhythm allow him to get in the zone. It’s important the referee is quick as well otherwise it makes Ronnie stop in his tracks.
When he’s on it he plays snooker as well as it’s possible to be played.
Safety game has grown to amongst the best though, and doesn't seem as obsessed with getting 147s. Been there, done that..
@bradparker6156 yeah that's the thing with Ronnie, he can mix it with the best of this generation and is the exception to the case where he's a jack of all trades of the game and master of them all. True GOAT.
Fascinating seeing Steve, the greatest snooker player, facing what was to become HIM in the future. Amazing how we used to rave on about Steve's legendary metronomic accuracy - which had accounted for all types of players, hurricanes and whirlwinds - but never saw a rocket coming. Love to know what was going through his mind watching Ronnie's effortless potting and ball control (Davis was supposed to be the guvnor in that area). Davis was no fool and probably thinking this guy not only is the future but going to be the biggest thing in the game
Stephen Hendry mentioned on a interview with Steve Davis that RoS was the reason he retired so early.
Hendry only intended to win things and when RoS broke onto the scene, he knew that was over.
@@austinpuleston5432 seems un fathomable that Steve Hendry stopped playing because of assumptions and self doubt? That’s not a competitive attitude. Imagine David beckham stopped playing because Ronaldo came on the scene! It’s just crazy to me, his reasoning for retiring.
Dàvis was boring
That referee is flying round that table like a wizard.
Len getting a sweat on, following Ronnie around
He needed roller skates
@@tomska68 getting a real sweat on was doing a tony drago match
Legend has it, that Len lost half a stone during that match!
Reardon, Davis, Hendry and Osullivan. The best of their generations.
Imagine being there, watching ronnie for the first time not knowing you were watching the GOAT
I think everyone knew even then he was something special….not saying we knew he’d be the absolute goat….but definitely we all knew he was special
He never dominated like Steve or Stephen. They are engraved in the minds of those who followed snooker in the eighties and nineties
@@edmundpower1250 you don’t know wat ur talking about
@@davidprosser457 Ronnie never dominated any era like Borg or Federer or Davis or Hendry or Bristow. He blew hot and cold over 30 years.
@@edmundpower1250 Hmm... Ronnie is currently 2nd in overall title wins in snooker history, with Steve Davis being first. (There is only a 6 title differences between them, Steve on 81 and Ronnie currently on 75) - Ronnie will more than likely over take this, making him 1st place in overall snooker titles won. If that isn't domination over 30 years I don't know what is.
It’s incredible to see how accomplished he already looked before he had even won a major title.
Fact: immediately after turning professional, Ronnie won 74 out of his first 76 qualifying matches.
His action was so smooth even back then - I remember this game really clearly, I was the same age as RO'S and my brother said as he watched with me: "this kid will be the best snooker player that ever lived".
A 17 yr old beating a 6 times world champion Davis is not that shocking.... when comparing a 47 yr old still ranking number 1 in the world.
Snooker is so lucky to have Ronnie Osullivan.
a prime davis would best a prime ronnie easily, he wasent the nugget for nothing
good one @@cocoomalov3r
99 other jokes you can tell your mates@cocoomalov3r
@@Mike-bc7xv Steve Davis is underrated.
Both legends
Steve 'Interesting' Davis was the Ronnie of his era, the young man who set the bar higher than ever before. Imagine the pressure the recently-turned pro Ronnie was under, and he still showed a glimmer of the magnificence yet to come. I think even Steve could see the new king taking shape before him.
Was he under that much pressure? You're playing against one of the greatest of all time, people don't expect you to win. All the pressure on Steve here, for me.
Exactly right Jade.
I think you'll find a Steven Hendry in-between those 2
To me Hendry was more impressive to me than Davis, maybe it's because I grew up watching him but I think the level of competition in the 90s and early 2000s was peak snooker and Hendry rose to the top of everyone.
Interestingly these days Steve Davis is more into control voltage than controlling a cue ball. And he is about to launch a record label, I think it’s called Rack Records.
I wish I could find these full matches in this quality, I am sure I don't speak for myself that we would all watch them over and over again.
Nobody else has so much free time as you must have!
@@markcotton3481 now now
BBC archive is your next destination then.
@@markcotton3481 Don't be a dick
@@sonicdiablo8968 1. Can't help it 2. I put a little love heart to soften the edge off the joke.
Something I notice from watching these old clips is that the referees where much quicker, and overall more helpful and no nonsense. They were never in the way of the players. Ronnie could really play at the pace he was most comfortable in. I feel that nowadays they are slowing the game down more and they are more in the way of the players.
Something Ronnie himself has commented on multiple times. He will urge referees that are in the way:)
I forget this referee's name, but it's hilarious to see him panic slightly to get the ball from the rack and back on the spot before Ronnie's sets up for his next shot. Even Jimmy White never panicked them like that.
It’s cause they keep getting older
Yeah this is how Ronnie got the fastest 147, he commented on it many times how the old refs were much better and faster
@@danjeory3659 The referee's name is Len Ganley
Steve Davis dominated the sport when it became hugely popular on tv. But, with so many boys taking up the sport, the next generation was always going to be on another level to those players from the 1980s.
Looking at the young Ronnie and the "today" Ronnie is amazing. So little has changed over the years. What a treasure
No things have changed mainly not giving himself such a hard time when he isn't perfect which ain't often he has records that will never be beaten the main one being the fastest 147
He was quicker and had more energy, obviously.
Ronnie to win it again this year? That would be something special, 30 years on. Roll on November!
Break building beyond anyone else. Genius, and beautiful to watch. He showed his promise here, always entertaining to watch and impossible to emulate, right from the beginning. Non Plus Ultra!
Don't forget Stephen Hendry. No slouch!
Ronnie's touch in about the reds is superb, even this young . The GOAT
Great frame. Of course Ronnie just phenomenal but lovely to see Steve play again. I forgot how good he was
How strange to watch one of Ronnie's matches without hearing 'Go on Ronnie!' from the crowd😆
Sure he was great. But what fascinates me is to see the RAW version of what he is today, and to clearly see that -- as inherently great as he always was -- he has put enormous effort and discipline into fine tuning his play to the level it is now. He has clearly never rested on his laurels; he has ALWAYS reached for perfection.
I don't think Jimmy white and others would agree with you there. I've heard Jimmy mention in the past that Ronnie has lost his self-discipline. He's had months of playing badly at times. Your comment is exaggerated.
@@aviemore907 We're talking about two different things, I think. I have in mind the effort to reach new heights -- that's not the same thing that people mean when they mention "self-discipline."
@@GetMeThere1 yes well you're always right aren't you
@@aviemore907 Ah, no! See, you're wrong again. You're the one who's always right. Oh and, I think Jimmy White might consider applying some of that self-discipline to the guy in the mirror, before knocking a player whose shoes he's not worthy to shine.
@@aviemore907 - Jimmy White can spout all that nonsense as much as he likes, but how many World Titles has he won?
All I can do is smile. Steve Davis probably went home and took a valium.
The begining of the end for the great champ davis and the start of the new best player ever in history taking the crown such is life
This was the moment. I was 19 watching this. I knew of Ronnie's talent. I watched Alex and Jimmy and they were my heroes. Then we knew something special was coming. It was...it was ronnie. Thanks for the memories. However...all greats start looking at their past. If they didn't...they would be greats for longer. As soon as one is aware of greatness...one is always around the corner to beat them.
Who is the next ronnie though? That new kid looks good..stan moody
In awe how top players can set up for the next shot. Second last shot where Ronnie pots the blue and sets up for the pink is a good example. Perfection!
Yup & I also think he tried to get a touch on the cushioned black too.
I just love how fast and efficient the referees were back then. No pissing about. This match is also INCREDIBABLY enjoyable/important to watch and think back on.
Len Ganley was one of the best refs.
The golden age of snooker refereeing for sure. Now we have women that take a comparitive age to respot the balls, often due to their lack of height making it more difficult sometimes. They disrupt the flow of the players if you watch their reaction.
A star was born !!!
The control he has on the cue ball on the last 8 remaining balls is outstanding. At that age playing that well is amazing. Snooker is no joke.
Thanks, WST! Unadulterated match play without any provider commentary... just the break score & audience response! Keep it coming!
Alex Hurricane Higgins was the trailblazer. Jimmy Whirlwind White was the peoples champion. Ronnie Rocket O'Sullivan is the most naturally gifted player. These players, the most exciting to watch, they kept snooker alive.👍
Safety cost Steve the match. I don't think language can describe the talent of Ronnie. Genius doesn't quite cut it. He is beyond description. A magical wizard.
he was standing up,. then the red fell so he sat down.
words of wisdom, dear Max !
His shot on the pink with his long cue and spider cost him the match. Terrible shot.
Have a word with yourself mate.
They used to carry snooker on TV in Canada back in the early 90s (TSN) and Hendry was my favourite as he was so young and dominating over the older players. I can remember the first time seeing Ronnie and thinking wow, this guy seems so confident (cocky?) and fast. I didn't like him at first, but that changed quickly.
Kirk Steven's was cocky also...there has been a few pro Canadians but not many . Hendry was a force that captured my appeal over Davis at the time as well . But Kirk's white threads were something else . Big Bill and his beers...unbelievable time's. Only 2 oversea players being World Champs . One being a Canadian.
@@quicksilver6467 I wish someone would carry the events here - I used to be able to watch them the same day on youtube, but I guess they cracked down and can only find highlights now.
@@Solar55 yes. They certainly have cracked down on UA-cam viewing of Snooker . Last year I bit the bullet and got a Dazn subscription which is going up to 200 annually in January. But I love watching Snooker with full games to see offense , defence and body language live . But , the frames start at 5 am Vancouver time and 2nd sessions at 11 am . Dazn gives you 6 hours to watch it . And I do .
Beyond potential....this young man has arrived at success! The talented ones make it look like an art.
The "bad luck Steve!" at the end lmao
You can see the diff in Ronnie then and today. his potting is about the same, but his position today is so much more in control especially on longer cue ball runs. He fearless personality is already there to see and Davis gave hi a few opportunities and he got it done....
All the same he hit several long pots without a bobble!
Not even old enough to vote or have a beer yet he plays like this, absolute legend!
Just visualising myself watching this back then, on my parents’ big square TV, 18 years old, full head of hair, full of hopes and dreams, then heading to my room to listen to the latest exciting rave music. Only thing I still have are those rave compilation cassettes 😂
And going to the local snooker club trying to emulate Ronnie…but failed to get beyond 3rd ball in my case!
@@rosetinteddays2605 I doubt you barely even knew his name before this tournament
When Ronnie 0sullivan is playing well he's a hard man to beat. The amount of century he's had during his career at the top is staggering. He will have a chance of winning the world snooker championship for an 8th time next year if he overcomes his rivals.
3years before this match, in 1990 when Ronnie had 14yo, told the presentator of a show that steve was his idole, what a proud for himself , brilliant player !! 🇩🇿
This is him just coming up and going against the legends. Wouldn't be long before their sun would set and he'd ascend to the pinnacle of the game
Two of the snooker gods x !!
0:45. I think you'll find he also had 6 UK titles "at this stage." He had won his last one 6 years earlier.
Yeah bit of an oddity this one,
i knew he won 6 Uks.
Think the poster has taken this info from Steve Davis Wiki page where it shows him as winner of four Uk ranking championships, his other two were not ranking events apparently. This is probably the posters source where of course a look at history of Uk championship will show him as six times winner of course
That was a changing of the guard. Steve Davis was my first snooker idol, but the Ronnie took over and the rest is history.
There's been a few good ones, Eddie Carlton, Hurricane (Alex) Higgins etc
Steve Davis seemed to bring another level of professionalism to the game though, much like Björn Borg did for tennis
Then Ronnie came along and he took the game to the next level, the discipline he has to play the percentage shots all the time has meant that for now he's been unbeatable
Ronnie took over? was almost a decade later before he started winning the WC. You might have missed someone else out inbetween.
Besides having a wonderful flare for the game, there's many hrs on the table. Ronnie has stated his love and devotion to the sport on many occasions, making those numerous hrs a labour of love. The results are absolute proof!
that Ronnie kid has some potential if he keeps playing like that, one to watch for the future i think
The table looks so slow, I kept thinking the cue ball was going to go further than it did. Thought Ronnie would be the youngest world champion, but that's one record he left for Stephen.
Yes the action on the ball in the initial stage seems so much but then it just dies down
The gulf in natural ability here is frightening. Davis, great tactician and all round snooker player, but in terms of sheer potting ability and talent Ronnie is in a totally different league.
Steve davis had the best cue action in the game..
2 legends of the game from
2 different eras.
We must remember, Davis was still a tour de force here.
Not really. He was on his way down by this point.
It's the Masters 😂, only the best, he's number 2 in world here. He won masters 4 years after this and was number 2 4 years after this plus countless other championships. He hadn't tailed off, there was a certain Steven Hendry hit the baize
By '97 Steve was number 10. He won the masters but was going out of most tournaments in the 1st and 2nd rounds. No, he was on his way out.
He was definitely on the way down by this point, only won a handful more tournaments in his career. Hendry had completely took over for the decade with White, Doherty and Parrott amongst others all more consistent by now.
Didn't like Steve or Stephen much when they played. Mainly due to Jimmy and supporting him. As I've gotten older I love watching Steve play, he's also a great commenter and has great humour.
Yeah which was a refreshing surprise when he started commentating. Considering as a player. He was the most sour faced miserable twat going 🤣
I grew up watching snooker on the BBC and Eurosport when Stephen Hendry started to become big in the later 80s.
He was just so precise. But Ronnie makes this crazy difficult game look easy from time to time.
Commentator.
Это было захватывающее зрелище! Ронни так молод в этом видео, видно что это очень перспективный молодой человек. Всегда смотрю за его игрой и это всегда очееь впечатляет.
Would've been better with commentary to hear what they thought of the boy
Who us here after Ronnie won his 77th title.
all of us.. this video was uploaded 14 hours ago
@@UaExRacer i get that but that was for those who didn't know
77th!! 😂 😂 😳😳🤯
@@025umarfarooq5 know what?
He should have at least 100 by now. Such a waste
I know this video is about Ronnie but first reaction on watching it was Wow I'd forgotten how silky Steve's cue action was
We will never be seen player like Ronnie again is history 😢
Looking at this in retrospect, it is remarkable to see that he has the same mannerisms that he has now as he did at 17 years of age
the referee was picking up the potted balls hella fast. I bet he was thinking: maybe one day I can team up with this guy and "we" can do the fastest 147 ever
Like the way Ronnie potted the pink to get it out of the way & back on it's own spot 👌
The genius was born.
"Bad luck Steve" as Len Ganley said. What an amazing talent Ronnie O'Sullivan is!
We forget how good Steve Davis was in his day
Messi of Snooker World. They were both stunning at the age of 17. What a talent. I salute you GOAT.
Steve you have been my snooker legend, Ronnie you are the genius and GOAT..
That red to middle at the start was outstanding.
My two favourite snooker players. Great game.
As good as Ronnie was then, it's interesting to see the difference in his cue action then and now. He's truly perfected his craft over the years.
Hard luck Steve said the ref 😂
They don't know who is growing up. The Rocket
Sharp observation 😄🤙
I had a giggle at that too 😂
Even at 17 years old, you can’t miss a ball against Ronnie, he will make you pay. And then the disrespect by Davis by standing on Ronnie’s long pot on the red, unbelievable, like he was going to get another chance, lol.
Needed 2 chances and missed a simple black off the spot.... looks like you can miss a ball afterall.
Just love to watch this guy play (btw @Daniel O’Sullivan who would have thought that snooker fans could be so wooden headed) and am looking forward to the coming weekend with a mixture of anticiptation and fear…..Goats are like Highlanders, there can only be one!
Ronnie O'Sullivan is so underrated.
Interesting young man. Really had his 15 minutes here, but I don't think, that we'll hear much about him in the future.
ronnie in snooker , phil in darts . to keep that mental ability and skill is crazy .
Back before his opponents just sat there with a resigned look on their face. This guy still looks hopeful that he'll get another chance at the table.
Mister Snooker !!!! Always on Top !!!! 👑
I remember watching this seventeen year old and seeing the game of snooker go to a higher level. Here 2024 he is the forty eight year old who is becoming the snooker machine he can be. His head and his demons are all sorted! and number eight World Snooker Trophy in March will be the iceing on the cake and put the history books to rest for a while! Rock on Ronnie. Cheers to 2024.
Its crazy to think that he has actually under-performed , if his head was right he would have won a lot more earlier on ( side note - world championship always begins half way through April and ends on first bank holiday in May-not March) .
Remarkable confidence and poise.
Seeing how the game has changed so much is crazy.
That O'Sullivan kid looks sharp...
...🤔I suspect he may have a future in this sport.
I will be watching this young man, can't wait to see if he reaches his potential stay tuned!
That young lad will go places 👌 👏 👍 🙌 💪 🔥 😁
That kid is really good , he will definitely be world champion one day,, good luck to him
Dunno about that, he plays a bit slow imo
:D best comment ever
@@erinling8908 this isn’t ping pong, what do you expect
@@T1LL3R 😅
Do he have a left handed win yet?
The confidence of youth + Ronnie of course 📦✅
“Bad luck, Steve”. Lol.
Hendry took snooker to a new level with his pack splits early on .
I remember watching him for the 1st time in amsterdam during a wosr tournament in 1991 didnt know he was ronnie knocking balls for fun
You know he is a natural at snooker when at 17 he wiped the floor with Steve Davis . Gone on to prove he is one of the best ever in the sport . But my favorite player of all time is still Jimmy White .
He hardly wiped the floor with Davis, winning by 3 frames is not a floor wipe.
@@TheStupidcommenthe wiped the floor with him and then shat on his head
@@TheStupidcomment comment section is full of Ronnie fan boys though....
Who would have knew Ronnie would become the best ever Snooker player! 😉
Who could have known, indeed!
Ronnie himself.
So eerie without commentary!
Dont miss ” Sullivan quick fires 128 ” on youtube.
Do not miss that one.
From 93’ total clearence in 4.40 min.
With commentary.
My two favourite players of all time. Steve Davis was my favourite for years, always Mr Cool and a gentleman and then my rivalry with Ronnie O'Sullivan and his "no mucking about" when playing was really something. Hard to choose.
I just hated those players who took ages taking a shot even when the one they were about to make was obvious. It was infuriating. Really happy to see this game.
Just miss the booze and the cigs and the huge mustaches, sideburns of the end of the 70s beginning of the 80s...(just joking).
Quite a treat for those of you who weren't born when this event occurred.
Witnessing the birth of greatness ....
I grew up watching Hendry and was a big fan. But O’Sullivan is the GOAT for me, made snooker more exciting. I remember the time he wasn’t going to pot the last black on a 147 as there was no prize for a maximum 😂 I believe he did in the end. Or his 147 in something daft like 5 minutes
He did in that match. He was also on course for a 147 in another match, the 2016 Welsh Open. He deliberately played for the pink to make a 146. It was in protest of the 147 high break being almost nothing (10k). Suffice to say the crowd and Barry Hearne weren't that happy lol.
Shows what a bell end he is
With health Ronnie may be the first to win Majors 50 years apart. Only 21 more to go. I hope his ambition for the sport keeps him going towards it. However, doing or not doing my little scenario does not change whom he has become.
Just imagine back then telling someone in the audience, 'one day we will have to explain who that guy playing Ronnie was'.
Let's see if he can win majors 30 years apart first.
Loved it when Steve stayed standing after leaving a long red on. With the benefit of hindsight that Steve did not posess, I was thinking "Sit down, Steve... and make yourself comfortable" :)
One of the best Ronnie vids , it's his first shot , and he asks the referee what the prize for 147 is , highest break ,,so ,,meh he clears the table ,,good vid..for a 17 yr old ,,,lol