Prologue - The Full Story Of FEDRA Episode 1 | The Last of Us Lore
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2021
- In this episode 1 of my full story series on FEDRA from The Last of Us, acting as the prologue - I go over the basics and backstory of FEDRA and its lore in The Last of Us’ universe. I among other things explain the lore difference between the military in the last of us and FEDRA in the last of us. As a prologue this episode 1 of the series is quite unspecific but future episodes will focus on more specific parts of FEDRA and military lore & story.
Hey everyone! What, you thought I was done with The Last of Us Lore videos? No way. Part I is still my fav game of all time and I just can’t stay away from that lore! As you might’ve noticed by now, this is the first episode of a new series on the channel - The full story of FEDRA - this only being the introductory / prologue episode of it. Hopefully you’ll like it!
Enjoy!
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My take is that after the outbreak the United States essentially shrank into a connected web of cities still operating initially as the US government just massively reduced in size, with FEDRA and the military enforcing order and running most things. Then over the years the branches of government faded and dissolved and FEDRA basically assumed all power, naturally or forcefully. And the connections between the QZs degraded, essentially leaving them as a very loosely connected network of de facto independent city states, operating at least in name under FEDRA and the United States, while still having friendly relations with each other.
Yeah I agree with you here, the logistics alone of remaining significantly interconnected cannot be possible with I’m guessing a shortage of equipment and oil
change the name to the United Cities instead of United States
are there any good fan fiction stories covering this? it would be cool if people expanded on the last of us universe since the second game was such garbage and ruined whatever is coming next from those woke bozos.
Agreed. In order for any president to still be in charge, it would require the means to communicate on a national level, give orders, and then enforce them if necessary. While radio communications could possibly be in effect, there’s no way for any military force in Philadelphia to force the QZ in Denver to do anything. They may have remained in power for a few years, but after that their influence would fade away to nothing. I always interpreted the line “bureaucrats out of the way” to mean all non military government.
I'm listening to The End: The Defiance and Destruction of Hitler's Germany, 1944-1945, and just recently watch 80's nuclear apocalypse move "threads" and that pretty much follows those. Pieces of the network is removed/fails to keep up with events, people step into the gaps. Either by necessity of to seize power. In The End, as events move faster than the top can keep track of, (Hitler calling to hold at any cost towns that fell 3 days ago), the local authorities, who didn't run for their lives, do the best they can. And once an organization (or person) gets good at something, they tend to want to apply that to any problem. Clickers attacking ... shoot them. People petition for their rights now that immediate threat is gone, and that threatens you're power, ...
IMO I personally believe that New York City is The LOU’s most powerful Quarantine Zone in the country, Just imagine how locked down FEDRA/The Military would have Manhattan, I could see Hunters & Smugglers living and taking over certain areas around NYC & just imagine the types of infected that would be roaming the abandoned subways, buildings and etc
If they could clear out such a population center
@@samuelwoodouse4482 agreed, manhattan would be easy to seclude by blowing the bridges away and keeping the island isolated from potential invasions. I imagine the likes of the NYPD and military jointly would be able to secure the majority of the center city
It would either be really strong, or it would have been wiped out in an attempt to set up.
@@johnhumburg1828 Yeah I could either see them blowing the Brooklyn, Manhattan and Williamsburg Bridges, but I could also see them setting up those massive metal entrances on the bridges like in other QZs as well.
Would love to see a story like Escape From New York in the LoU universe.
The Fedra and the QZ existing Just shows how strong humanity, somehow humanity is able to still survive with a bunch of small cites and with its military still existing. Unlike the many other zombie shows that make the military look incompetent the Last of us is pretty realistic zombie and military alike.
FEDRA is my favorite faction in the video game. What I liked the most was finding collectibles and information about the military to investigate and analyze their activities and investigations of the virus. I also love their Quarantine Zones and how they manage their operations, checkpoints, and surveillance.
#TeamFEDRA
Hoping for more Fedra in part 3
I wanna play as FEDRA or a FEDRA soldier at least
@@dbomb127 Let's hope so.
@@paul7432 Me too, bro.
#TeamFEDRA
Lol, #TeamBoot
It's actually not so confusing that there is both administration and agency patches, this probably suggests that there was a transition from administration to agency. Agencies in the US federal bureaucracy can be independent and not under the domain of some other department (i.e. defense department, state department, etc.) At some point FEDRA themselves or the government declared it to be a independent agency in order to expand it's powers as martial law was declared.
That’s what I just thought it’s not really a mistake and is just likely that they changed not to mention the military and fedra likely merged maybe they were the last of the government left and the two parts came together
13:31 the fact that the CPT of the Pittsburgh QZ reported to a COL of the Atlanta QZ doesn’t rule out the the existence of the Washington D.C. QZ as the capital of FEDRA. That only demonstrates that there is still a chain of command in place within the military. Although the garrison that is deployed to each QZ is pretty confusing since Boston has a General, Atlanta has a Colonel, Pittsburgh had a Captain, and Seattle had a Lieutenant (most likely a 1LT since a platoon of soldiers isn’t enough to run a big QZ). Marlene refers to the soldiers in Boston as the “Boston Battalion” which doesn’t make sense because the General of the QZ would lead a division not a battalion. I wish NaughtyDog actually researched military structure when making TLOU because all these mistakes make the lore very confusing.
It could also show how slap dash things became that somehow a lutenet became the most qualified guy to lead a qz
Naughty dog is extremely careful with details, theres probably a super subtle reason for these lore wise. I feel like putting different rankings on different characters is way too random for it not to have some sort of explanation. (Or maybe they left it up for speculation. Maybe the most qualified person died and these groups are now being lead by whatever’s left.)
The more likley option is officers were put where they were needed to lead and that didn’t come with full complements. Sure a general would lead a division, but in the apocalypse a battalion might be all he’d get for his post.
I think Naughty Dog gave QZ leaders different ranks so the player would be able to easier distinguish between them.
The amount of passion this guy has for TLOU. I understand the division but i am also glad to hear it does not tarnish what you think about part 1. Great to have you back for now 🤗
It sucks to see your favorite franchises go in completely opposite directions of what you expected or wanted. Like the new Disney Star Wars made it very hard to keep liking star wars so did Part II for tlou. But yeah, it really only hurts me if I let something that's really completely separate from the first game diminish my passion for it. So yeah. And yes, it is good to be back, at least like you said for now haha. Hopefully I'll be able to keep a longer upload streak than one this time.
@@TheiPadCat you will cover tlou show right? Hopefully part 2 story wont be in it😬😅
@@TheiPadCat just pretend that the second game isn’t cannon .
@@zksow1143 do you guys really hate it that much? Im currently replaying the game and loving it, yh the story is not the best and certainly not better than the first but nonetheless is good
@@rambo9875 exactly I completely understand what they were going for even though I know it could’ve been accomplished better, but the gameplay man… and the graphics the world is just so fun to be in. I genuinely love all the characters and understand there POVS. Still miss my boi Joel tho
Bothell WA is basically a suburb of Seattle. It's pretty common for federal agencies to have regional offices a little outside major cities. They may have just called it the Seattle office for convenience.
I'd love to see a last of us game that would focus on the first couple of months of the outbreak, good vid as always btw.
Me too! Holding out hope for that Tommy and Joel story. And thanks :)
Probably the remake or TLOU 3
@@TheiPadCat but just knowing that he dies by a golfclub at the hands of the most unrealistic, unlikeable beefstick just ruins it. they duffed the tlou universe so bad. if they introduce new characters, they will be 'diverse' weak idiots like lev because the neil druckman and the writers are woke morons.
@@fedra5873Nah, it will be in a dlc in tlou part 3
Now i will expect a last of us 3 where the final boss is Obama in a mech suite.
But in all seriousness, thank you for continuing these videos, they are wonderfully entertaining and informing and I for one cannot get enough lore from this incredible series. Your hard work is greatly appreciated!
Anything less at this point is unacceptable. I would also be greatly disappointed if we don't get to salvage an F15 jet to take down said mech as well.
I'm happy to, it's so much fun making videos on such rich and interesting lore! Thank you for watching and enjoying them, comments like yours make it 100 times more fun and worth it too :)
@@TheiPadCat Abby would get mutant superpowers and punch the mech to death.
After she kills Ellie and Dina. Then eats jj.
I think the final boss is not obama
"Uhh, Ellie. You gotta tax the rich Ellie." Mecha Obama probably
@@highjumpstudios2384 HAHAH
The amount of detail in your videos is insane, i've never even considered half of this stuff! Really enjoyed :)
Thanks Wesley! That's the goal, to get into the nitty gritty and all the little details of the lore - so happy to hear it :)
I liked part 2 and i would be so interested in WLF vs FEDRA
What I find cool about the region capitals is that that’s prolly a reason why they changed Pittsburg/ the place Joel and Ellie were ambushed at to Kansas and added an overrun fedra stronghold there since it’s one of the region capitals
The agency v administration thing might be explained in game as the transition of power. An agency work by being appointed positions within the government, they are “agents” hired to oversee a function within the government. Whereas administration is run by elected officials.
My theory is FEDRA started off as a agency tasked with the standard disaster relief we see today. But as the pandemic grew, its importance also grew along with it, so it was transformed into an administration to help it achieve their goals efficiently.
So a very powerful elected official would essentially be placed at the head (maybe someone like a vice president) and by this, other government agencies could be placed under it.
FEDRA reminds me of CEDA from the Left 4 Dead game series, which was also a fictional organization based on both FEMA and the CDC respectively.
Just more militarized.
Sometimes I imagine playing the character of Ellie in her military uniform supporting FEDRA, since she was previously part of the military school.
#TeamFEDRA
No the Butterflies are the best they like to do surgeries on kids to save humanity handsdown best faction only seconded by the Washington Liberation front and abbie best main character EVER in a Video Game the Last of Us 3 Needs to put her in it and her only Cause Ellie sucks and sucks bad atleast abbie is A Unit and will get revenge and clap who she needs to
Eww
@@chiapets2594 fireflies actually
@@chiapets2594 mfw when someone who’s talking about their faction is the best can’t even get their own name right 😐
@@chiapets2594 you mean fireflies? Lol
Just when the world needed him the most he vanished
Thank you for continuing making lore vids man. Extremely appreciated.
And I appreciate you sticking around to watch them! :)
“The only thing we have to fear is FEMA itself” - Therussianbadger 2020
No comments says a lot
Great to have good lore back
It feels good to be talking about it again!
Bothell is only like 20min away from the center of Seattle. It makes sense that they would QZ in Seattle because Bothell is a satellite of Seattle, and Seattle would have more infrastructure to house more people.
Super QZs sounds like a very interesting idea. It’s like in Maze Runner - at the beginning we see only typical post-apocalyptic world with destroyed infrastructure, but then the main characters find themselves in a full-blown functioning megapolis. It would be very unusual to see something like that (maybe to a less degree) in TLOU Part 3.
As for the president, it would be a fictional one, I think.
Probably, during all the 20+ years of CBI pandemic, quarantine zones that could still be functional, would most likely lose all the communications between each other, and turn into independent entities.
Good video, Emil, lots of stuff I’ve never thought about 👍
I haven't watched maze runner but that sounds dope, I should check it out!
I could totally see something similar, albeit a bit less spectacular than a "megapolis" in tlou. Think about naturally defensible areas like manhattan for example. If the military abandoned all other nearby zones in favor of reinforcing the NYC one, as well as it being a FEDRA / FEMA main office - it could totally be or become a super QZ. In that one piece of concept art it shows the gate from the brooklyn side of the brooklyn bride, as well as lit-up skyscrapers peeking over the wall. Indicating that maybe the entirety of lower manhattan might be a functioning city still!
And agreed on the president, I doubt ND would take the risk of getting sued for defamation or something.
Thanks Alex, always good to see you commenting on the vids!
City areas with water around them, and a bunch of bridges are definitely easy to control (kinda like the hunters of Pittsburgh controlled the bridge in the first game). Big enough group of people could pull it off 👍
Your videos are awesome dude 👍 very engaging and they never get me bored. Would love to see a continuation of the video you did a year ago regarding the rest of the world in the last of us
Remarkable as always , amazing video dude! keep it up
Thank you for the kind words, Eduz! I will do my best :)
I have been half-assed writing a TTRPG setting document for The Last of Us and videos like this and those from other creators are great tools of inspiration. Thanks for revisiting the subject material!
How’s it going? This sounds like a baller idea
@@mayhem9052 it ended up turning into a collaboration with another member of the community and turned into a general zombie/apocalypse document. There are alternate rules to make the system more deadly, new talents and abilities, and even stat. Locks for a variety of zombie/infected adversaries. It uses the Genesys RPG
Bothell Washington is basically Seattle so it still checks out with the theory. Its one of the many other "districts" (for lack of a better term) like Capitol Hill in Seattle. You can verify this on Google Maps.
Lies!!! Bothell is it’s own city! Capitol Hill is a neighborhood in Seattle…I’m not even sure if Bothell is king county. I live on Cap hill btw.
@@jamesperry8872 Ok cool I didn't ask. There are a lot of towns that are "basically" part of the larger city like Fresno/Clovis in California, two completely separate towns but they're right on top of eachother (no distinct separation). And if you read what I wrote you'll see I said "basically" and wrote "districts for lack of a better term". But it was about the theroy not about Bothell being a town. With Seattle and Bothell being so close together and no real big separation between the two they are basically the same as the eagle flys, therefore making the theory possible.
@@ronniebibbins311 As someone from Vancouvers, washington, and avoid tedious conversation by just saying I live n Portland, yes! More likely folks just refer Bothell or wherever Fedra is as Seattle. People on the East Coast don't even pronounce OreGUN, correctly. They are likely gonna generalize with a place they think is part of Southern Alaska. And like so many places in Washington sounds like a toddler made them up. Skykomish? Issaquah? Skagit?
I am happy to see you back again iPadCat, and back making a new video. I hope you are doing okay.
I'm glad to hear that Sterling! I'm gonna try to be a bit more frequent with uploads this time, but we all know every time I promise somthing like that I end up breaking it haha. So I'll just say *hopefully* I'll be able to do it. And I am doing great, thanks for asking :)
It is great to have you back making lore videos. I totally agree with you that the disappointment with the story from Part 2 should not detract from what a great game Part 1 was. I also hope that if the proposed future remake ever happens that they don't try to retrofit the story to be more like the relentlessly angry tone of Part 2. For me, a defining reason that Part 1 was so much better was the strong characters, that often still showed a sense of humor and hope, without 24/7 angst and dread. Part 2 was a beautiful game visually, for the most part, but mostly lacked fully developed characters that were likable. It mostly spent time diminishing the returning characters to the point that they often stop being likable. Tommy, for instance, underwent a severe turn for the worse by the end of the game.
As for the real FEMA, it is firmly a civilian organization that utilizes elements of the military for logistics, rescue, and basic security in the aftermath of major disasters. If there was a disaster of the magnitude of TLOU, it would require a declaration of martial law to deal with a nationwide state of emergency. It would be impossible to act quick enough to respond to a disaster of that magnitude with Congressional bickering and the many unwieldy overlapping layers of civil governments in time to get a consensus to act. It would be a dereliction of duty not to assume emergency powers to deal with the crisis and try to keep some hope that restoration of normal governance will follow in the future. In real life, it would probably not be FEMA, but the Pentagon that would take charge due to its logistical and communications capability, aside from weapons, and its nation-wide ability to activate the National Guard with a built-in Command and Control that is well placed in every state. Also though FEMA cuts the checks and oversees the process during disasters it is the National Guard that mostly supplies the muscle and security. All in all, FEDRA just sounds cooler than saying the National Guard was activated nationwide to deal with the crisis.
I absolutely agree, the prospect of a potential remake to bring part I up to modern standards in terms of gameplay, graphics, etc has me excited. But for the love of God if they do any such thing, retconning anything, adding or removing lore, or even lines of dialogue I will be very upset. I am all for bringing the game to the new generation in all its glory - but just as with the HBO show, they better not screw around with what made it what it is today.
And I think you're on point with the tone of the story in part II. Aside from familiar characters from the first game acting like impostors, seemingly becoming entirely different people (especially Joel, but Ellie losing all of her quirks to become angry and bitter for the entirety of the game too) the story just feels constantly awful. Any impact horrible events would have had is lost because the entire game is just misery upon more misery. Henry shooting himself after Sam turns in the first game is infinitely more impactful than any of the deaths in Part II, because leading up to it was not just an endless array of death and despair, but actually - like you said - quite a hopeful outlook for the rest of the game. When I got to the aquarium and Ellie flat-out murders Owen and Mel just for the sake of it I felt nothing. They try their hardest to make you feel horrible and shocked but it falls incredibly flat because it's just a drop in the ocean of misery that is Part II's story.
Part of the thrill of apocalyptic stories is that the world "ends" but it doesn't really. That the heroes or humanity, in general, can pull themselves up and narrowly escape that end. Part II is so far from that.
Interesting, that's a really good explanation of it! So, FEDRA / the president / the pentagon could have just assumed these powers legitimately through a nationwide state of emergency then? And then they just never gave them up resulting in the fireflies, WLF etc?
So the walking dead did it right? Cause there was never mention of FEMA in the walking dead or even fear the walking dead they just mentioned the national guard
Welcome back iPadCat!!! 😊
Thank you, Michaela! Really glad to always see you sticking with the channel!
I love this content dude! Also your aim is godly
Can’t wait for episode 2! :)
Same
Rip
@@abc-oq7dt oof
Love to see someone whos so into tlou as much as i am, i cant stop re-playing the first one. Im not a fan of the second one even though its a beautiful game but my hopes are on for the tv series which i hope they captivate the atmosphere and vibe of the first game.
Have you watched any of the concept trailers? I hope it’s not as corny as it looks, I absolutely loved the first game when it came out and still replay it a few times a year and I had a good time with the 2nd one even though the story is not as good. I just wish I could really dive into the world through the lense of the first game and go through all the lore like the city in the sewers with ish and all the little hidden stories throughout the game.
Really enjoyed the video hope he can make an episode 2
Oh boy I can’t wait to watch part 2 of this incredibly promising and interesting series
Omg I’m soo glad ur back I rlly thaught something bad happend to you because of the lack of uploaded . I’m really pleased to see your back 😄 also what ever you were going through I hope your better now
Awesome to hear, mehdi! I am happy to be back. And I appreciate the concern for me :) Things are indeed better now, just very busy haha
@@TheiPadCat sorry for not replying but I’m glad to know your doing ok
@@TheiPadCat also what’s the discord server ?
Great video! If you're curious about Atlanta being a possible FEDRA/government central command, it could be that the CDC is based there.
Nice to have you back. More videos on our beloved game the last of us
It's good to be back! And that's the plan :)
Ah, it's good to hear from you again.
And it's good to be back!
Hey great to see an upload! Congrats on almost five thousand subs also
Thank you Beren!
Glad to see you making content again. So many TLOU channels abruptly stopped producing anything after the second released
I'm happy to be back. This video and series is actually something I've had in mind for a long time, even way before part II ever released. The voiceover for this particular vid was done in febuary, just had a hard time to find the time and motivation to finish it. And yeah, even though what's happened to the community and many channels post-part II sucks I totally get it. I've personally felt many times I wanted to give up on it, having dedicated so much work - years - at this point to a franchise that did it's best to alienate many of its fans, including me, and I assume many other content creators. It's near impossible to pour your heart and soul into creating fun and interesting content when you yourself aren't feeling it anymore. Part II is still a sore spot for me, and will probably always be. But confirmation-ish of a part I remake, factions 2 (hopefully) on the horizon and replaying part I has me hoping for good things in the future. Which has somewhat reignited my excitment and motivation to continue. So here's hoping things only go up from here! Also, glad seeing you sticking around Heisenberg!
Walter??? I thought you were dead man!
@@mgastudios5076 bruh
Great vid I love tlou lore thanks soo much man 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Glad you liked it, and yes tlou lore is something special isn't it?
liked for the "lets get on with it " he saw his chance and he took it lol
I WOULD LOVE A GAME ABOUT DIFFERENT PPL FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRY AND IT STARTS FROM DAY ONE OF OUTBREAK
Upon subsequent playthroughs, I always thought that Arthur Munroe is the voice we hear in the beginning and that he is a high ranking FEDRA official if not it's leader. I'm not American so help me on this - but I find it strange that the Attorney General is the one who "makes it clear" that the military will no longer go to hard to reach places. Why would the Attorney General be tasked to say that? Why not someone who is actually from the military, or alternatively why not the Secretary of the Interior or Homeland Security. As I understand it the Attorney General is just like the top legal advisor to the government.
(although I do know the in-game clipping cuts off before we know exactly what Munroe made clear, and to whom, so we do not have the full context)
Anyway... I think it's interesting so in my mind Arthur Munroe is the voice in the beginning and is a leader of FEDRA.
Great channel ,I love the content
Fedra is an excellent representation of a real-world agency like FEMA taking control during a disaster of this magnitude. It would be piece meal for the first few years, but it wouldn't last. People by nature, even during trying times, tend to look out for themselves and the number of "givers" would deplete overnight. An organization like Fedra(FEMA) wouldn't last and from how they've faired in the most recent title. The real-world FEMA would buckle under bureaucratic paperwork alone. But people forget, Fedra would've had access to the Cheyenne mountain complex, Raven Rock, Mt. Weather, as well as 8 other unknown locations designated "camp nowhere", which is just a code name as these sites that could be anything from an outdoor FOB to an underground bunker complex. Point is I kinda hope we see them in the next title, having restored central leadership to a civilian elected government and with a mission to reclaim the world that was lost. In TLOU, FEMA becomes totalitarian in order to maintain continuity of governance. This wouldn't happen in real life as FEMA and HS Charter DO NOT supersede NSA/CSS charter to protect the government, even from itself. One problem I have with modern media is the lack of realism to the "SHTF" plan the government has in place at this very time to deal with these very crises.
We gotta see the southern United sates in the next game. Maybe have a DLC with Joel and Tommy
This game is amazing! Just listening to the music give me shivers. Did not feel anything for Part II, even the music did not touch me. I don´t know if it just me, or the depressing story.
It truly is! Agreed, I've heard a lot of people talk about how part II OST is better than part I. Even though I do agree pretty much everything in terms of the actual *game* is better than the first (ie level design, graphics, shooting mechanics etc minus the story ofc) The soundtrack to me isn't nearly as good and doesn't really have a single iconic, piece while in part I almost every single track is phenomenal.
@Adam Efimoff I didnt enjoy part 2 and I want to understand from people who loved part2 story about how many times did you play part 1? I have played it a lots and lots of times and I went through every conversation and read everything about it and the music, I love listening to it while working. I have made one mistake perhaps. Out of anticipation while waiting for part II, I played part 1 just one more time before starting off with part ii so that I am fresh in my head again. I just couldnt connect to part ii but just my opinion.
Finally, Ive been waiting for someone to talk a bit more about these guys, I have always thought that they have potential for last of us related content, perhaps a dlc? Dont think itll happen, though.
Now I just have to find a deepdive on the seraphites, though I didnt like part 2 I found those people a bit interesting.
it’s kinda crazy coming back to this video and seeing Kansas City as a FEMA HQ location with Kansas City being shown as a major QZ in The Last Of Us HBO show
Yesssss hee livveessss You were missed like a lot. So So glad to have you back.
Will you continue streaming live?
Having played both games agaim recently, one after the other, i have to say part 2 is incredible. Just as good as part one. They might have fucked up the order in which you play, should jave played as abby first, but it still amazing game.
I agree, the story is good but the flashbacks with Abby and owen are pretty janky due to not being in chronological order
@@prettyoriginalnameprettyor7506 and the fact that most hate abby
How tf they expect us to like abby after she kiled joel? Lol
Because Naughty Dog mistakenly thought that the fan base would be mature enough to understand that the protagonist can’t just kill scores of people from a group, screw them over, and expect nobody to try to get their revenge.
Part 2 retroactively humanizes all the people you killed in Part 1. It reminds you that in-universe these aren’t just mindless drones, but mothers, fathers, son, daughters etc.
Also, Abby’s motivations are in line with Joel. If Ellie got smoked towards the end of Part 1, Joel would have gone completely scorched earth. We saw what happened when he was trying to escape from a firefly base. Imagine if he was out for revenge.
How is what Abby did any different?
Please bro more LAST OF US!!! I wasn’t a huge fan of the 2nd game but I did enjoy my time with it. However, part 1 I’m so in love with I’m on my 15th play through right now and I feel like there’s still so much to explore
Best channel man
Ellie and bill having a casual convo
Joel in the background committing crimes against the Geneva convention.
Bothell is near Seattle, so it could be possible that in the creation of the QZ they chose to place it in Seattle where it is still operating near the office, but in a more central position or such.
Honestly I really only think FEDRA has one shot at surviving for another 10 to 20 years after the last of us part II , they have to abandon every Quarantine zone and relocate every soldier to their safest and biggest military base. This would be a hard journey for many of the soldiers but their only shot at survival since most QZs are falling apart or have already fallen. There new rendezvous point would most likely be the Denver QZ since there rumored to have 13,000 soldiers already. This will be something very similar to what the Military did in the new Planet of the apes trilogy where they all relocated into a main base , comprised of about 50,000 soldiers. This will be really the only chance the military and FEDRA has at relocating their resources and building new infrastructure and gaining new firepower to at least make the Denver area extremely safe and akin to the old world. This is because every other QZ at this point is a waste of resources and soldiers are spread to thin.
While I don't like how FEDRA became dictators and monsters in other QZs, they were able to keep a lot of things together like industrial centers
If anything, being a plant inside the organization and making your way to the top, you could rework it into a force for good again
I think there are many qz’s at all, Philadelphia’s qz must’ve been wiped out, and although the fireflies are basically gone, it seems probable that other groups such as the wlf have overrun fedra just like they did in Seattle.
After the fireflies being gone, Boston is secure and we’re pretty Denver is as well considering their capabilities, we don’t know about Atlanta though
Good video and very cool theory. Just to add about why they would call Atlanta is because the Center for Disease Control (CDC) is located there and likely where those directly fighting the outbreak would report.
Man i remember when you only had 75 subs im glad you are getting noticed i have a small channel i know its hard
75, damn that was a looong time ago! Good to hear you're still here! It is indeed hard to get the word out there as a small channel, and if I'm being honest not growing "fast enough" in the past did bother me. I remember trying my best to get my videos out there in FB groups, on tlou subreddits etc. But now for the most part I really just enjoy having this little community here regardless of how big it is and how fast it grows. If it goes somewhere it does, and if it doesn't then that's also fine because this is still awesome as it is.
It would be insanely cool for the HBO series to have a power-mad or insanely terrified/puppet FEDRA version of George HW Bush (who was the president for the onset of the outbreak in the show). I'll be interested to see how the show differs from the game. It looks like it's going tit-for-tat so far, but I'm excited nonetheless.
HW was president in the late 80s, you’re thinking of George W bush (dubya)
Where’s part 2 at this episode was fire!🔥🔥🔥
I feel like most major cities would be nigh-impossible to defend considering the mass population. Maybe a couple of major cities would stand but I believe most would fall to ruin and most civilizations would be smaller outposts (like Tommy’s) scattered throughout the country.
All doomed to the predations of nature and the infected. At least until the infected die off in due time and some semblance of government could restart America from the ground up in at least 100 years.
Hey so Happy to have you back! 🤩
I'm glad to hear that! I'm happy to be back :)
Bro. You need to play part 2, it’s amazing. You are seriously missing out on one of the best gaming experiences ever.
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Bothell is a city in the Seattle Metro area, meaning that moving there would save more people and make more sense - being on the coast rather than remaining 8+ miles from any possible ports, and the CDC is headquartered in Atlanta, so likely they were involved in the response to the disease in some way
He’s alive!
TLoU2 may have been disappointing, but it’s great to see you haven’t forgot about part 1
Never, part I is more important now than ever. It's something tlou fans regardless of our opinons on part II can unite on, which is desperately needed after the damage and the division that's occured in the community since p2 launch imo.
Now would be the perfect time to come back 👀
Bothell is extremely close to Seattle (just on the north side of the lake) it would be very plausible they just moved it a little south to the main city
Please do more TLOU content :) i love the in game lore
Part 2 is a masterpiece.
The reason the central command is in Atlanta is because the region is not only heavily militarized, with a number of prominent marine and army bases. But because it’s the headquarters for the CDC. Washington DC would be a nightmare to defend, and is utterly lacking in practical defense against forces like zombies.
Washington is in reality a decoration, and would fall almost instantly. But Atlanta might stand a chance after being utterly purged after an initial outbreak.
It’s likely any executive branch would move to either Atlanta or the much more likely mount weather bunker complex in Virginia.
Let me also add that the idea of Utah falling apart when it’s main demographic is a religious group with dooms day preparing as a commandment is a little absurd.
No effort is made to make DC defensible because continuity of government procedures would be to get the government leadership out of the city anyway because it becomes an instant target of any adversary merely by virtue of it being the capital. Having said that, that doesn't mean there wouldn't be a continued government presence in the city or in areas around it like Joint base Andrews, Fort Meade, and especially Fort Detrick since the military version of the CDC, USAMRIID, is located there.
@@tboneforreal Didnt know some of that. Could It have simply been abandoned to preserve it? The ravages of time wouldn't do much to destroy over engineered monuments, but any occupation of a former large city like DC would require fire bombing at a minimum. Its much easier to justify burning down Atlanta than DC. Especially from a morale perspective during the earlier days of the infection. The government having to bomb the former capital in order to still function wouldn't give many people hope or trust. The two things needed to keep an organization like a country going.
Aside from Morale, DC serves no purpose, especially when regular forms of government have been disbanded. Infrastructure to serve a governmental body that no longer exists is nothing more then a liability.
It has no manufacturing capability, very little logistical capacity except for the hinterlands, the terrain is swampy, there are lots of rivers in the area, and the urban centers bloated.
It also sends a message to the American public at large, that the government has changed and will not go back until DC is reclaimed.
Governments mostly exist to push narratives, so from the governments perceptive abandoning DC might have been the right thing to do.
What do you think?
It is my belief that the northeast, because of its population and relative time to advance, is probably the biggest hub for federal forces. Imagine Cities like Boston, New York, Philly, D.C being fedra strongholds. I could even see cities like Springfield MA, rochester, Albany NY, and cities like Scranton or reading PA having their own qzs, if enough time was secured.
Bothell is a suburb of Seattle, so it kind of makes sense for Seattle to be the main QZ
Hey- if you would be willing to look at the second game from the few playthrews i've seen of it there are some side stories in the game that could be fun to focus on. I think that would be a cool video in the future.
From what I recall there weren't as many side stories you could find in the first game. There were some but not as many. It's one of the only things that the second game seems to add that I like.
The news paper said at the bottom that the New Mexico Quarantine Zone fails but Dina in part 2 said that fedra and the ravens were fighting
They re-established it I think
It’s a shame that you say you didn’t enjoy part 2. Even if you didn’t like the direction of the story, from a game point of view part 2 is pretty much an improved version of part 1 in pretty much every aspect. Hope you’re able to enjoy it at some point.
Part 2 isn’t my all time favourite but I love it nonetheless not to mention it is part of the world of TLoU so you can’t really ignore it
Shouldn't have killed of the main character. Just to ram some leftist loon crap.
Bothell Washington is a suburb of Seattle and the name of the more well known city would probably take precedence 20 years later, I would imagine even today residents of Bothell would tell people not from the area they are from Seattle just so they don't have to explain it
howdy, in re: awaiting instruction from Atlanta probably has to do with the CDC (US Agency version of WHO). It’s headquartered down there and features prominently in various pandemic stories (Walking Dead season 1; Contagion)
8:12 based on the show FEDRA is actually much different. Where FEMA workers are famous for the polo shirts and colored vests, and maybe personal protective equipment, depending on the disaster, FEDRA comes in fully armed and clad like a paramilitary force, driving military vehicles. It is against US to deploy federal military forces domestically, which is why FEMA works in partnership with the National Guard (whose members are cross trained to be both soldiers and disaster-relief worker) in major disaster zones. The National Guard is not directed by FEMA, instead the National Guard is administered and lead by the each state’s Governor.
It's really interesting, especially if you read between the lines a bit. FEDRA started from scattered groups of surviving military, law enforcement, and civil government folks that went from a strongly centralized chain of command, to near anarchy, followed by re-consolidation into it's current form. Which are now gradually decaying from attrition, lack of resources, loss of land and population. I'd bet living in a QZ 5-10 years after the event was a very different experience. We see the soldiers go from cutting edge combat troops using the latest gear (circa 2013 anyway) to ragtag soldiers that look more like poorly funded rural PD tactical units.
No plate carriers, old-ass rifles with almost no finish left, beat up solid color uniforms and barely running vehicles. It implies that as stockpiles were depleted they had to be very careful what to use their now extremely limited industrial capacity for, and decided to use it for a little bit of everything but not a lot of anything. One of the things I'd love to see is where and how this remaining industrial and agricultural capacity is. Who's growing the food, and where? How many factories are left and where are they getting the raw materials to build anything in them? How the hell would you even go about guarding the massive areas of land needed to cultivate crops and how to decontaminate them, considering this all started because of contaminated grain? This shit is unbelievably resource intensive, we take for granted the complexity of supplying even a very limited manufacturing base. Making batteries (as the military is said to be doing) would be a massive achievement
I mean it's cheaper to manufacture and in the show there is talk of factory making bullets and they also still operate helicopters and have resources to maintain them
@@axel665 Yeah, but to what extent we don't know and I seriously doubt even FEDRA would be able to manufacture a new helicopter, or even fully refurbish an old one
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Good to see you back! I have one question, How would you rate TLOU1 and TLOU2 out of 10?
It is good to be back!
As for your question I think that's very hard to answer. Judging part II as a complete package doesn't do certain parts justice, and doesn't critique other parts enough. Which is one of the reasons I never did rate it in my discussion vid last year. Though if I were to rate it I'd split it in several different "components" with their own scores:
If we let ageing factor (I wouldn't because it's not fair to compare an 8-year old game to a new one but if we do let it) this is my rating for both games:
The Last of Us:
Graphics: 7/10
Gameplay 8/10
Level design 7/10
Sound design: 10/10
Soundtrack: 10/10
Lore: 10/10
Story/plot: 10/10
The Last of Us Part II:
Graphics: 10/10
Gameplay: 10/10
Level design: 10/10
Sound design: 10/10
Soundtrack: 6/10
Lore: 7/10
Story/plot: 3/10
But without counting the aged aspects of the game, part I is 10/10 all around imo.
@@TheiPadCat I agree, TLOU2 has better gameplay and graphics but when it comes to story and characters Part 1 is way better. Its strange to see that TLOU Part 2 is getting so much awards(It won the most awards) when everyone didn't liked the game yet there is alot of bias towards it. Its catering to a newer fanbase who don’t really care about Part 1. Also they are remaking TLOU Part 1 with TLOU2 graphics engine and gameplay for PS5 Will you play that?
Culture journalism and awards shows / organisations whether it’s movies, games or comics etc, have become increasingly bigger jokes with each year imo.
So called critics and experts are so incredibly out of touch with the actual audiences of these things it’s funny.
I think part II 100% deserves awards and praise for its technical achievements. An opinion that is universal for almost everyone who played it regardless of their opinion on the story. But a game is a package deal. Game of the year means *everything* needs to be the best of the best, and that’s just not it this time around.
And yeah I really want to make a video about this potential remake. I’m cautiously excited for it. But I’ll go more into detail in the actual vid later.
@@TheiPadCat yeah and also it is winning allegedly "fan-voted" awards which is suspicious when the game clearly has a divided fanbase. They are now pushing a false narrative that "everyone" loved it and treating TLOU2 as 2nd coming of christ of in gaming, most famous streamers, youtubers and reviewers such as ACG, Skill Up, Yong Yea ,Angry Joe, Jeremy Jahns,,Moist Cr1tikal, Closer Look,Nakey Jakey, Upper Echelon, Mutahar and others with millions of followers didn't liked the game because of the story and gave solid criticisms. By winning the most awards in history should mean "Everyone" liked it when that is absolutely false. Angry Joe who is a popular streamer and reviewer said in one of his videos that the industry insiders, mainstream media and the critics/journalists have clearly circled the wagon and are giving awards as a "knee jerk" reaction to the hate it got received and also to actual criticism which it pretty much shows that. They are giving awards out of pity but in the end award's really don't matter.
TLOU fanbase has become worse and one of the most delusional fanbase of all time recently.
Oh great do make a video about TLOU remake! looking forward to the video about that!
@@derek2802 everyone didn't like the game? Nah, a select few didn't like it compared to the many that did enjoy it. Also, I happen to love TLOU2 while also caring a lot for TLOU.
it would interesting to learn if there were any skirmishes between federa and what remained of the actual US military. I can only imagine that if Fedras power grew because they manned the quarantine zones what remaining units of the US military did. If they were just merged into Fedra Units or if they ended up fighting each other.
The US Armed forces were merged under FEDRA command, there is a bit of a newspaper in the Colorado University about it (the fact that under Fedra command, Army, Marines and USAF personnels will stop searching for survivors outsides quarantines zones).
I think the TLOU 3 should be from a FEDRA aspect, Kill Abby found out that she ran across Ellie and find out that her immunity is not a natural accident but a Fedra Experiment that got loose.
Nope they will go full leftist loon. Gay people will be the secret to save the earth. All white males become infected. White gay women become super human mutants. All gay dead people come back to life. Full fruit mode.
The subtitles in the game when the dialogue "the beaurocrats are out of power" has the world GENERAL next to it. Just wanted to mention that.
Bering a member of local government, I can say with great confidence that governments will just fade away when overwhelmed. Everything looks strong as cinder blocks but it’s all just dust. Push it one way it holds up. Push the other way and it collapses.
I’d imagine theirs limited trade using military planes or cargo helicopters, but plane fuel would be scarce
Love the vids and the new show! Also that Pittsburgh captain might be trying for Atlanta because I’m pretty sure real life FEMA HQ is in Atlanta same with CDC or maybe it’s only one or the other, just insight from an American :)
Yep it’s just the CDC not FEMA sorry but maybe CDC absorbed/took over FEMA in the game and not vice versa haha
As i strongly disagree with your opinion on part 2 i respect your opinion. Great video as always. I love gamelore and i think that Tlou lore is one of the most interesting. Cant wait for the next video
It really isn't
I am glad you like it, but I dislike its story myself, part two was wack in how it was written. Still, I hope you have fun with it! It has parts worth liking.
TLOU II is garbage. stop the cope.
YES, YES, YES, THE IPADG.O.A.T. IS BACK!
Yes indeed, hopefully I can manage to stick around this time haha
You have really great takes. I'd really like to see how you would have done part 2. I didn't find part 2 enjoyable either. I've been trying to figure out an alternate part 2 that could be dispersed as a story.
Central command is most likely either in The bunker in west Virginia or in NORAD command in Colorado springs
Fedras plan literally seems to be the same as Shaun’s plan for Shaun of the dead 😂
It sounds like it was a tug of war with the politicians and bureaucrats. Either that or the president was just pretending to be against them for popularity which still angered the fireflies
I’d say assume the agency naming convention is from an earlier point in fedras history
The Military and FEDRA have become this games' equivalent of the Combine from Half Life, though I'd say that I would side with them.
Huge difference TLOU is hella close to irl while half life is more like alien stuff
I’ve learned more about fema from this video than my entire U.S. education
Also, as someone born in Denton, TX, I’m glad it’s a region capital or whatever