Most of the pitches in the comments are very boring cause it's basically Cap but make him a racist pastiche. The Absolute universe concept is about underdogs and heroism in the absence of privilege.
I'd like to see how an Absolute Spider-Man would work. Imagine a world where Peter was put into a foster home instead of being taken in by Aunt May and Uncle Ben and he had to learn that with great power comes great responsibility all on his own.
@seezy9445 not exactly the ultimate especially the recent one is more like a What if heroes got they're powers later in life but the absolute universe is removing certain core parts of the characters, heroes are kinda like underdogs in this universe
This was how it was presented in the debut of spider-man where his inner monologue/narrator says that line. It was changed to have Ben be the one to say it in the first Raimi movie iirc.
My pitch is steve being drafted at age 16 since realistically it was happening. Ends up in a remote iceland location where they prepare the soldier serum program. he is first willing to do so feeling he has nothing to lose. And while inside the serum chamber, the location gets nuked and he gets stuck in there and frozen, once hes found in present day hes a super solider for the first time and still 16-17 mentally
Even better is if he started off as a Hydra spy first and proproganda has gotten to him. But realizes he's with the side of Humanity after he gets found in ice and realizes hydra are uncivilized villains. He gains the Captain america persona and feeds SHIELD info on the hydra system and realize there's more work to be done cuz they been off radar and only steve rogers knows how they operate. Hydra will classify him as a Traitor, but to america he will be a selfless hero
Oh that’s kinda sick. I’d add that the serum doesn’t add muscles to him so he just has an athletic teen build like spiderman and he has to blend in at high school n shit but he’s like dorky cause he’s from the 40s
@@snazdogdbfan251 Yup that was what i was thinking! instead of being too ripped, hes lean with strength powers. the Nuke radiation mutates the soldier serum
I think a cool absolute Captain America would be that he never went to war and continued to be the symbol of the government. I think it would be interesting to have Cap lose the respect of being a veteran and being the face of the American government during oppressive times like the red scare or civil rights movement. Cap can befriend people who face oppression from these events and learns to be a hero for the people at home. It would be cool to see Cap become the American hero he never got to be on the frontlines. I’d still have WWII end like irl. I think it’d be cool as well to see this cap still be a hero in the modern age alongside the other heroes. It would be cool to see old man cap trying to keep up with other heroes during battles.
@@gustavocavaca1757 Sounds cool 👍 Cap could meet actual former soldiers and feel like a total dick because these guys actually fought and bled while all he did was pose for the propaganda that convinced some of them to join anyway. Feeding the romantic notions and glorification of war which destroy so many people in so many ways on all sides.
I really like that idea. And maybe in that version, he doesn't get the serum. But he earns his strength through good old fashioned lifting and finding out how to be strong naturally. A small guy who became tough through hard work and dedication. While also being a wholesome American. He is sort of a "Rocky" in some ways already. But I think you could put a spin even on that.
His powers and abilities were never really the point. It's that he symbolizes the American Ideal. So to me, absolute would mean that he doesn't have powers. But rather endless hope and optimism of a better world. With the will and grit to be the best version of himself
I'll love a version of a absolute captain america who didn't got any serum but worked hard like guy sensi in naruto and pushed his weak body to the limits like punisher
Another change i would make for Absolutel Captain america would be this: He doesn't get chosen for the serum, instead they plan on going with bucky/ another soldier. He can either convince the soldier to trade places or just forcefully injects himself with the serum, forcing the US government to go along with the rest of the procedure
I feel like it would work better if they pulled a What If? and made it so that Steve just kind of hops in as a last second replacement because something goes wrong with the chosen soldier. Steve isn't the type to force people to conform to his wishes. And that shouldn't change.
I like the idea of a Captain America that is stronger and never enter in cryogeny, but dislike the idea where he is a War Ender, i prefer a Nomad version, where he dislike any government, and do thing on his own way
I can’t imagine how they would change Ted. Unless they just made him mean. If you mean Jamie however, maybe if he didn’t gain the scarab til adulthood.
I think the point of absolute comics and I think it was said in the comics is what if the heroes existed without the major advantage part of their lives into becoming a hero. Batman it was his money, Superman his adopted parents, Diana the Amazons. I think in this case for cap it would either be what if captain america wasn't born in America or what if he didn't grow up with Bucky say.
I feel like a cool idea for Absolute Captain America is to remove the war from the equation entirely! A Captain America who never had a war to shape him would be cool!
I think it’d be interesting to see him be born in Germany, and he will still get the super soldier serum (maybe they stole it from America) but as Steve fights in the war he realizes how corrupted Germany is. I think I’d be cool to see maybe Steve spare Bucky after fighting and they become friends. Eventually he will start to help America after realizing he is on the wrong side. This is sorta inspired by red son Superman
Something morbidly interesting. This German Steve Rogers would be Jewish and he was just used as a test subject for the super soldier serum which was intended to be used on the red skull, and while it worked perfectly in the inverse of what usually happens an Allied forces spy comes in and kills the Doctor who made the serum and destroys all of the remaining vials leaving Steve, as the only super soldier that the Germans have. So they force him to fight under threat of having his family executed. Until he eventually turns on them.
@P1k5 Further details I came up with: Steve (actually no this man is German his name is Stefan an actual German version of the name Steven) Stefan joins the allies after some dumb soldiers in charge of the camp (I’ll say it was Bergen-Belson because it’s actually where Jewish Hostages were held) were his family was being held at had them killed without knowing they’re the only reason Stefan is still fighting for the Nazis. Also an interesting detail that should probably be explored more in comics; Absolute Captain America’s main villain isn’t Red Skull instead it’s Magneto because in this universe both were affected by the Holocaust. While it seems like it would be an easy fight for Magneto because he has used his power on Cap’s shield before it actually isn’t because both are very reluctant to fight each other and constantly make mistakes for one fact. Absolute Magneto is actually Stefan’s nephew; not biologically but Stefan’s sister to care of a young Magneto after his parents were killed (Stefan’s family was killed at Bergen-Belson but before super soldier experiments, they and Stephan were at Buchenwald with the Eishenhardt family) I changed the camp Magneto was at because Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviets but Buchenwald was liberated by the American Army and I want Cap to be the one who liberated Magneto from the camp to get them Magneto another reason why he hesitates and make mistakes when fight Stefan because he was the one who freed him and cared for him after the War. Stefan is never call Captain America because while he did eventually move to America after the War. the German’s experimented on Stefan during the beginning of the War and his family was killed around November 1940. Meaning Stefan defect from the Nazis before the US ever joined the War and he fought with mostly British at first and with Russian Troops because reasons (I have a plan for this just go with it). So he was on multiple fronts in the War. As I said Stefan eventually moved to America with Max, changing their names to Steven Roger and Eric Magnus to hide their identities. However Eric was put into foster care because Steve disappeared because he went to stop an American plane from dropping a nuclear bomb on Russia. He then meets an American man he fought alongside James Barnes. (This is why I had him fight alongside the Russian for a bit. So of course the Russians find the plane and turn Bucky into the Winter Soldier but Steve is left alone as one of the crew aboard the sub that finds the planes was one of the Russians Steve fight alongside.
I like this, in terms of pure powerset, this reminds me of Mr Incredible. A very straightforward meat and potatoes super hero with Immense Superhuman Strength and Invulnerability.
You could make him not frozen in the ice but make him brain washed by Russia but Bucky gets frozen in the ice and cap becomes the winter soldier Bucky becomes cap
I feel like the Spider-Verse stories have already dissected Peter as a character so much that any Absolute Spider-Man concept already exists as a Spider-Man variant
@@jpyanity443 you could say that but the spiderverse story’s Aline Spider-Man as a character typically with the same core values so an absolute Spider-Man would just change his values
This is super cool. This got me thinking of something like an absolute Captain Marvel, where Yonn-Rog doesn’t send Marv on that mission to earth alone and instead Mar-Vell just becomes a grizzled war hero(therefore Una doesn’t die, Marv doesn’t get cancer, Ronin doesn’t get viewed kinder by heroes like the F4 by proxy, et cetera).
do an absoluta dardevil this time he can see and all his powers revolve around his sight making him slowly lose all his other senses, idk something like that.
How about an Absolute Spider-Man where they don't actually take away anything. He has both his parents, Uncle Ben and Gwen never died, and both MJ and Gwen are competitive for his attention.
We have seen that before. In the 90's Spider-Man cartoon and the first "Spider-verse" there was a version of Pete who never lost anything including a fight
I’ve got one. Absolute Fantastic Four. Instead of knowing each other, they’re four random scientists/astronauts chosen for the mission (Johnny and Sue aren’t siblings). They still gain powers and the US government makes form a team. They’re never “Marvel’s first family”, just people who work together
My take on an absolute captain America is yo have him be an orphan who grew up in Germany during world War II. He starts working for hydra thinking he's on the right team, but slowly he realizes the horrors they're committing and how hard it is to remove his brainwashing
I thought of Absolute Quake (Daisy Johnson best known from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Secret Warriors for those who have no clue who she is). the aspect I would take away from her character is either her "Family" (that being the Secret Warriors and Nick Fury, very much a found family thing like the Guardians of The Galaxy movies) or her Loyalty to/Faith in S.H.I.E.L.D., both of these options basically get rid of Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D. but both in different ways Option 1: without a sense of belonging she's an emotional wreck with earthquake powers, I'd imagine she'd go after her Father (Mr. Hyde) and try to stop him, this version of Quake is never trained by Fury and therefore will not have Fury's mentality of "achieving the greater good and protecting the world by any means nescescary" so I don't think She'd kill Hyde since even though she's a wreck and never got the guidance she needs, she still has a good heart, but she would probably feel more lost which could lead her to many interesting stories. Option 2: in this version she is trained by Fury but just never got attached to him and S.H.I.E.L.D. the way she did before, but she will still have his mentality this would probably make her more of a Punisher type character taking out corrupt politicians and secret Hydra agents, she'd eventually come into conflict with Valentina Contessa Allegra De Fontaine who in this story is more unhinged and bitter because Fury is dead in this universe, S.H.I.E.L.D. is still around and they've branded Quake a rogue agent making S.H.I.E.L.D. another antagonist. Option 2 is maybe a little close to what Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 4 does in it's first arc, though I think it is different enough.
My idea Ron an absolute captain America is where after taking the super soldier serum he he does it just like the comics where he becomes stronger,His physical appearance is better,He’s faster but he losses some of morals and becomes more violent.
My pitch for this would be leave the Captain as is: a kid from brooklyn, picked due to gumtpion and patriotism to become America's superweapon, given a serum that makes him the ultimate human... Take away the war. The theme s about the USA's eternal need for conflict and superweapons as a diplomacy-resolving technique after WW2, and the forever war we ve been locked in for 8 decades. Steve escapes, realizes he isnt needed but was only the latest victim of the military-industrial complex, and goes on a revenge
Absolute Captain America: Doctor Erskine is never assassinated and America is being able create more super soldiers and win WW2 faster. Cap doesn't go under the ice and stays in his time period. The thing that he loses is his popularity and his respect as a symbol
Absolute Ironman could be the shrapnel made it all the way to his heart and instead he builds the Ironman suit not as a way to free himself from his captors, but to replace his dying body
Off the top of my dome i have a core idea, he never became a man out of time, either he never gets frozen, and becomes america’s immortal soldier, fighting the good fight, but over time sees America continue to enter conflicts. Or B he actually died and our absolute captain america is an anthology series following each and every successor, who step up to face america’s conflicts, each one a man who admired steve each for their own reasons, and see how these men, lived up to steve’s example in vastly different time periods.
Soldier boy is honestly a pretty good base for absolute cap, flip it on its head and have the bully be the guy who gets the serum. Just like soldier boy he can be a flawed man not at all like Steve and throughout his time in the war he becomes much more like traditional Steve, already being the perfect soldier but having to learn how to be a good man
Make Cap a strong dude like Jack Reacher at birth, then give him stories that'll teach him the reason he should protect the weak from bullies. I think this would teach many that power comes with a mission to protect the needed in a better way since we now realize that despite him being strong at birth meaning he never got bullied and therefore developed the urge to fight bullies early on, he still chose to fight for those cannot fight for themselves. Basically make him Flash Thompson if he became spiderman. As for what stories should be written to motivate him to be a hero that's not my job lmao
I think one way to do it would be make that hes orophan and he gets adpoted by rich people, beicoming more careless, and that by nepotism gets the serum but the serum makes him the face of america and he begins to become humble and more heroic kind of like switching personalities with Tony Stark
I think something similar to what happened to him in Spider-man: Life Story would be interesting, as him ditching the America name in favor of battling the people who are directly being damaged by the USA. Him going rogue in Vietnam or even in South America could be an interesting plot point, but i do think that at that point he would be more "Nomad" than Captain America
But i do think that the USA government would try to do another Captain America, mainly for their agenda or public image. Maybe this new Cap becomes that lapdog that keeps the rest of the world at bay for the USA government to control. Someone like Jhonn Walker, but i think that most heartbreaking would be Bucky. Basically, turning the Captain America mantle into the equivalent of the Winter Soldier on this world.
I believe that, with the absolute marvel universe, characters are gonna stronger or weaker. So i believe that other super heroes would still pop up, and the avengers would still form.
I've wanted to see an absolute Cole Macgrath from infamous, maybe take away the incident that stopped him wanting to graduate but idk what you key part you could take away, ooh you could take away the blast incident from the first game, but he just naturally has his powers
Absolute captain America is a guy from the future accidentally being sent to modern times, and since he lived as a soldier in a utopia of democratic freedom, he’s extremely critical of how American society works at that current time, so he chooses to become a symbol for the people.
If this version of Cap existed, guaranteed people would try and make their own versions to fight him, so it's possible to get an Absolute Black Widow or an Absolute Hulk. Also, the X Men would exist regardless due to the X gene, and Thor and the gods would still exist since they are in another realm. And I can see Cap trying to get as many to his side as possible
My idea for an absolute Captain America is him being like Soldier Boy (lying about his past of being picked on) and Flash Thompson. It wasn't until he joined the war that changed him. He saw what it was like being on the other end of being picked on and getting shoved and thrown into lockers. After proving himself, him and his friend James were signed for the super soldier program to be the faces of America. Instead of being put on the front line, like james was Steve, was put as the poster boy for the American Government and didn't really see any action for a while. It wasn't until he heard that his other friend Bucky was killed in battle, and James was kidnapped by the Nazis. Steve, with the help of a few soldiers, broke protocol and went to break out their friends. They were successful at breaking them out, but Steve saw the real horror of what was going on and was filled with disgust and hatred, and with the help of James, Anthony Stark, and full support of the US Government created what would become S.H.I.E.L.D . Due to the serum, James and Steve lived another 4 decades after the war, living past all of their comrades. After a mission failed, that "took" the lives of James and his friends, Steve couldn't face his mistakes and faked his own death, leaving everything behind even his own son and wife. It wasn't until present day that he was thrown back into his old life to once again protect his home
My pitch for absolute captain America: take away the frozen on ice,in this he still goes to war but ages much slower,the supersoldier serum was also masproduse in this universe so cap isn't the only one,and in the modern day he would be a hero with so many trauma,his life after the war turns horrible,and in some places he is wanted,also his personality is bit More rough,he is still a Good person and a great hero,his suit would have More darker colors and his shield is damaged just like john walker's in thunderbolts
This is absolutely amazing I got so many questions like first of all did you basically have cap have the Sentry serum? Or is he not that OP? Second what would you do with caps design? third because the absolute universe is a lot more darker because of darksied dose he use Guns more often?
Absolute Thor would be interesting if Loki was/made himself to be the one that’s worthy just to realize it’s way more than he bargained for actually being God of Thunder
My pitch for absolute Iron Man: I'm both going to take away and give tony something rather than just taking away a traditional core element by rather than having him go through a struggle to becoming Iron Man, the armor is gifted to him buy a future version of himself to prevent a dark future. With Tony becoming Iron Man far earlier than he should and without the Arc reactor incident, Tony must see the effects of his arms dealings, the sins of his father, and the hellish weapons he's designed for the United States government in real time and must take a turn from standing for those things to standing against. In short as he does hero work he realizes that he's the one responsible for the horror he's witnessing.
Hulk: Without Bruce Banner… without his rage… without gamma radiation… what’s left is the Absolute Jade Giant! Spider-Man: Without the spider-bite… without Aunt May and Uncle Ben… without the lesson responsibility… what’s left is the Absolute Wall-Crawler! Wolverine: Without his adamantium… without his memory loss… without his mutation… what’s left is the Absolute Wolverine! Captain America: Without the super soldier serum… without his patriotism… without the loss of time… what’s left is the Absolute Sentinel of Liberty! Iron Man: Without his company… without his armor… without his time in trapped in a cave… what’s left is the Absolute Armored Avenger! Thor: Without Asgard… without Mjolnir… without his title… what’s left is the Absolute God of Thunder! X-Men: Without Professor X… without their mission of human/mutant co-existence… without their mutations… what’s left are the Absolute Merry Mutants! Fantastic Four: Without their family love… without their powers… without their each other… what’s left is the Absolute First Family!
Absolute iron man: take away pepper pots, he’d be surrounded by soldiers and war mongers, the iron man weapon would lead start industries. Every war zone would have stark armor paired with stark weapons, tone down the strength of captain America and it would be the effect enemy
I think there’s some real interesting points to work with for an absolute captain America that I’d love to see, especially given how many things can change with him. The two main things I’d think about exploring are the ideas that Steve was never the chosen candidate but thrust himself into that role or Steve lacking patriotism because captain America becomes born out of nationalism. Instead of removing his American pride make it based in his belief of a deceitful and propagandized version of the country that never existed. He lacks empathy with others and for movements of social Justice because he was raised in a sheltered ultra nationalistic environment that didn’t consider the rest of the world. This makes him easier to control by the government and he must slowly start to confront how those in power are using him for their own will and how that may never even have been for the good of the country but for their personal gain. Explore corruption and the frailty of the current state of the American dream or more so the American reality. In this scenario winter soldier and falcon would be forces trying to pull Steve out of his red, white and blue glasses by either attempting to make him rebel against the state in a violent, no holds barred, revolutionary matter or by Unionizing with those around him that have been ignored or left behind by the country at large. Winter soldier would be a former soldier and potentially another super soldier that reneges against the states after deciding he’s done being a pawn, acting as an extremist and the number one anti government terrorist according to those who Steve is commanded by. He doesn’t necessarily have to serve russia or others but his allegiances are called into question by his ideology and praxis. Falcon could be the champion of the disadvantaged or a fighter for the rights of the people, having chosen the bird since the American eagle has historically given them nothing of value. He would help open Steve’s eyes to the way people live and how those above have always punched down, he would also offer Steve an alternate approach to bucky’s one man war against Washington. You could also tie in other characters by making them consequences of Steve’s actions. By dropping his blind loyalty and going rogue on government commands, they look toward other super soldiers and end up with monsters like the hulk they try to unleash on him and then later by extension red hulk. Iron man would be one of the people involved with disarming those that used to control cap, inheriting stark and turning it from a weapons manufacturer to the start of a global disarmament crusade. You could also introduce other characters from shied like Nick fury or maria hill as his handler and people who kept him in line or coerced him into fighting in wars he would otherwise not have.
the propaganda aspect was the primary cause of his invention as a character, he was drawn to represent everything the eugenics movement was striving for fighting against them, so making steve look like adolf hitler or making him black, jewish, and gay would drastically alter how he was used as a propaganda piece by the US and seeing as the US had far different views of the latter demographics in the 1940s that one I think would make for more interesting stories
I want to add to this idea, because I love it, but I don't think you even need to prevent other superheroes from existing; by giving Captain America this, supreme power, you've essentially turned him into a Superman of Marvel comics. Sure, other heroes might exist, Thor is still around, Iron Man may still become a thing, and I think the Avengers may form much sooner, but centered around Captain America, and his goals to make a better world. I can see this version of Captain America struggling with the fact he has all of this power, and balancing just how much he should use it. After all, the Nazis needed to be stopped, but what about the USSR? What about when America needs to be stopped? I think this Captain America comes to embody an icon for the human race, something greater to aspire to, the god who was once a man. This even becomes a question of "Should humanity even ascend to this point?" Lots of fun stories to explore here, and scenarios to explore exactly what a perfect world looks like, according to Captain America. However, this ends up just feeling like a power buff, not some kind of Absolute version.
My idea for an absolute Captain America is a world where the superhero is more of an idea. Let’s just say in this universe, during WW2, Americans are losing hope. People stop seeing the point in signing up to fight. The draft is the only thing bringing in new soldiers and even then, people are almost revolting. Seeing that America is almost completely uninterested in fighting, someone hatches an idea. What if we make up a superhero. In this world Captain America still starts off as the weak skinny kid from Brooklyn. But instead of giving Steve a real super soldier serum, they lie. They train Steve to be at peak human physicality sure, they give him a suit that’s bullet proof, they give him the shield, but the “super serum” is just a placebo. By giving Americans the idea that they created the first super soldier, it gives them hope, it’s makes people want to join the fight.
It would be cool if Absolute Thor got the Superman origin. Ragnorok happens early and Odin decides to send a baby Thor to Earth to keep him safe. Maybe Thor could be raised by vikings Edit: I forgot that only MCU Thor is 1500 years old and comic Thor is said to be a million years old
Wanna hear my pitch? What if Steve Rogers, a brilliant but unassuming young scientist, was recruited by the U.S. government to infiltrate the Nazi war machine? Instead of a physical transformation, his journey would be a psychological and moral one, a descent into a world of darkness and despair. Sent undercover into the heart of Nazi Germany, Steve becomes entangled with Hydra, a shadowy organization obsessed with harnessing supernatural power. Their ultimate goal: to create an army of super soldiers, beings of immense power and unquestioning loyalty. As Steve delves deeper into Hydra's secrets, he uncovers a horrific truth: their experiments are far more sinister than he could have imagined. The serum they've developed, a concoction of ancient alchemy and advanced science, doesn't merely enhance human abilities. It corrupts and transforms, turning its subjects into grotesque, monstrous beings. Steve witnesses firsthand the horrifying results of Hydra's experiments: people reduced to shells of their former selves, their bodies twisted and mutilated. He becomes increasingly horrified by the organization's cruelty and the devastating impact of their research. They called this creatures the "Red Skulls". A moral dilemma arises: should he steal the serum for the U.S. government, potentially unleashing a new arms race, or should he destroy it, risking the lives of countless innocent people? Torn between duty and conscience, Steve makes a fateful decision. In a desperate attempt to sabotage Hydra's plans, Steve is captured and subjected to the very serum he sought to destroy. As the serum courses through his veins, he undergoes a harrowing transformation, his body contorted and his mind warped. Turning himself as a red skull like the others. But even in his transformed state, Steve's spirit remains unbroken. He escapes from Hydra's clutches, a monstrous figure driven by a singular purpose: to dismantle the organization from within and prevent it from ever threatening humanity again. In the end, He returned back to USA in his deformed look. The goverment was shock, but since Steve didn't return with the serum, he was instead forced by the goverment to be tested. Howard Stark, the lead scientists for the US Government decided to help him, by giving him a type of armor, that not only protected his flesh and body, but also give him some enhanced metabolism and strength. Seeing how well this "Armor + Steve" Combination, The US Government, decided to call this program "The War Machine" initiative. But sadly, before they can reproduce other suits, Howard was Brutally murdered by some of Schimdt's henchman, who stole some of his ideas/plans to return it to the nazi's back at Germany. So in short, Steve became a super soldier for the US Army. Since he has a powerful suit of armor, the Army decided to put him into the front line, But of course it wasn't as easy as they thought. Even though Steve has powers and incredible strength, he wasn't a fighter. He didn't know how to kill or to fight. So he needs to grow with this new power along the way. At first other soldiers mocked at him, laughing at the man that was stuck inside the large chunk of metal. They mock at his bright red skin. But Steve remained calm. His determination to end the war was the only thing on his mind. To end the HYDRA initiative. As he continues to save more and more people + mission, people finally began to see him not as a weird monster/metal as they think. They finally started to see him as a hero. They finally called him "Captain America".
Yeah I thought about what if he wasn’t rich but he’s a still a super genius so he could still build an iron man suit like the quote goes, “ Tony Stark built this in a cave with a box of scraps!”
Ok but why not just make him strong and cocky before the serum not willing to cover tge grenade with his body and show how he acts with the serum but keep bucky as his friend maybe hes content being a performing monkey bcs hes fame hungry but only after his best friend goes missing does he step up to help but not for the right reasons just to keep his friends safe and then when bucky falls off the train he becomes extremely unhinged and brutal bcs he never had his morals instilled in him i think that this cap would still defeat red skull but i dont think hed be willing to risk his life maybe defeating red skull in a different way
Here's my own idea for Absolute captain america I would keep the same ideas you presented with him. Being the perfect supersoldier, just not to the same godlike extent and make him Instead of being frozen in ice , he sees america's Hypocrisy He will begin to see that The system that he's fighting for is It's both hypocritical and toxic. he will see all the different things. Throughout America's history, all the bad And good will still be there, but he'll notice all The Times that we've let down our soldiers. Hurt our own people. All The Times we've let corruption. Fester , how We're willing to cut deals with horrible people that have done atrocities just for information to improve ourselves. And let these people get lighter Punishment With all this happening over decades nearly a hundred years We will see a Captain America who has seen the best and the worst of America And how Will a man deal with this? How will Captain America deal with seeing his Home, do all these things see how it changes and how In truth. it never truly Changes, there's Always an excuse for what they do And how much will this change him?
Your pitch is interesting but the main point of the absolute universe or absolute concept is to make the heroes the underdogs (most of them already were but this time they really have a disadvantage). If Captain America was in the absolute universe he would have never went to war or would have not taken the serum, maybe Captain America at first would end up being someone else and he would take the mantle.
Ok heres one the boys homelander imagine instead of being raised in a lab he grows up with two loveing parents i think hed still end up konda corrupt bcs i feel like even as a kid hed deal with a lot of publicity and a lot of fans hed be famous from a young age going to expos and stuff like that similar to starlight but unlike starlight he likes the attention buy it wouldnt be his only motivator bcs when hed go to far hed think abt his parents and how in his teenage years they died in a plane that hes on with them he trys to save the plane by going outside and flying towrds the nose but ends up going straight throigh the whole plane in this scenario i think that would cause him to not focus on fame as much and saveing lives so i feel on flight 37 instead of leaving the plane hed come up with a solution after all this is a more ecmxperienced homelander i feel like in this scenario hed actually be helping the boys i feel that butchers wife would still be sa but instead by a different hero a hero thats done that before im of course talking abt the deep shed be pregnant with the deeps kid this time however she wouldnt be placed in hideing bcs the deep is not nearly as threatening vought wouldnt tell the deep of course but when butcher finds out that a supe did this hed lose it wanting revenge for what the deep did makeing it hid goal to kill deep and take vought down thats where homelander would come in butcher would be coming for the deep homelander would find out abt this and talk to butcher learning about the deeps actions hed make the deep leave the seven and make a public apology but this wouldnt please butcher hed still want the deeps head throughout this the deep would go through his whole thing with the church and feel remorse for his actions hed show up at butchers home looking to apologize for what he did butchers wife answered with a kid behind her that was no older than two wearing nothing but a diper and u could see his gills thats when the deep would get mad nad at her mad at vought for keeping it a secret hed then try to fight for his kid he wanted some sort of custody but since hes not as strong as homelander he cant really show up and demand to see the kid so he needs to think of something whilst all this is going on homelander finds out about some of his heros useing compound V to enhance their powere and works on a way of stopping it during this hed still be dateing maeve and maybe even propose in this version hed be a real hero shed probably still fall for him shed be at his side during all this helping her put a stop to the V in this scenario i dont think he would know that they were made in a lab i think he would just asume the v only rnhanced powers not make the heros i think once he found out hed be so upset upset that his parents lied and said he was special that god chose him upset that they were doing this to children so i think hed leak the info of the compound V i think that at first people would be mad but vought would ultimately turn it on their favor i think that homelander leaking this would get him kicked out of the seven in this version hes not homicidel so they wouldnt be scared to kick him out enicially maeve would want to leave but homelander would tell her to stay to be his eyes and ears so homelander goes off on his own i think hed actually start working with butcher however homelander had his morals kinda like a captain america he wouldnt wanna kill the supes that him and butcher take down instead arresting them during all this the deep attempts and succededes at kidnapping his son so homelander and butcher go after him trying to get the kid back eventually they find them and i feel that butcher would kill the deep or at least seriously injure to the point of crippling him around this time they would replace homelander with stormfront makeing her the leader the beggining of her showing up would stay the same shed speak out against vought wich would catch homelanders attantion and hed try to recruit her to their cause despite butchers warnings that somethin didnt feel right she wouldnt join but occasionally give info on vought to gain homelanders trust and it would work theyd become close hanging out in their free time makeing maeve jealous wich would cause tention between the two women i think hed stay with maeve but for a while it would be like a will they wont they situatiom eventually butcher wod find out shes a literal nazi telling homelander and he would be crushed he trusted her hed become fruends with her and now he had to arrest her he did do the right thing he leaked the proof of her nazi involvment but this broke him homelander quit after this he quit everything he even blocked maeve out butvher tried to check on him the world was wondering what happened to their best hero thats where im gonna leave this i think itd be a cool idea even if u went a completely different direction i do think their would be a way of bringing homelander back in the future kinda like how mm came back something comes up and he has info on it somethin like that also in this version remember stormfront didnt die just got arrested so she can return maybe even be the reason homelander puts the cape back on u may notice i left out the other boys thats bcs i picture this takeing place a few years ago where this version of ryan is a todler liveing in the city with his mom and butcher not in hideing their wouldnt be a reason to go in hideing
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Most of the pitches in the comments are very boring cause it's basically Cap but make him a racist pastiche.
The Absolute universe concept is about underdogs and heroism in the absence of privilege.
create more like spider-man
I'd like to see how an Absolute Spider-Man would work. Imagine a world where Peter was put into a foster home instead of being taken in by Aunt May and Uncle Ben and he had to learn that with great power comes great responsibility all on his own.
I was literally just thinking that it’s like you read my mind 😵💫
ABSOLUTE SPIDER-MAN.
More poor than before (he's homeless)
Isn't absolute Spider-Man kinda just the new ultimate run
@seezy9445 not exactly the ultimate especially the recent one is more like a What if heroes got they're powers later in life but the absolute universe is removing certain core parts of the characters, heroes are kinda like underdogs in this universe
This was how it was presented in the debut of spider-man where his inner monologue/narrator says that line. It was changed to have Ben be the one to say it in the first Raimi movie iirc.
My pitch is steve being drafted at age 16 since realistically it was happening. Ends up in a remote iceland location where they prepare the soldier serum program. he is first willing to do so feeling he has nothing to lose. And while inside the serum chamber, the location gets nuked and he gets stuck in there and frozen, once hes found in present day hes a super solider for the first time and still 16-17 mentally
Even better is if he started off as a Hydra spy first and proproganda has gotten to him. But realizes he's with the side of Humanity after he gets found in ice and realizes hydra are uncivilized villains. He gains the Captain america persona and feeds SHIELD info on the hydra system and realize there's more work to be done cuz they been off radar and only steve rogers knows how they operate. Hydra will classify him as a Traitor, but to america he will be a selfless hero
Oh that’s kinda sick. I’d add that the serum doesn’t add muscles to him so he just has an athletic teen build like spiderman and he has to blend in at high school n shit but he’s like dorky cause he’s from the 40s
@@snazdogdbfan251 Yup that was what i was thinking! instead of being too ripped, hes lean with strength powers. the Nuke radiation mutates the soldier serum
Bro cooked HARD!🔥✍️
I think a cool absolute Captain America would be that he never went to war and continued to be the symbol of the government. I think it would be interesting to have Cap lose the respect of being a veteran and being the face of the American government during oppressive times like the red scare or civil rights movement. Cap can befriend people who face oppression from these events and learns to be a hero for the people at home. It would be cool to see Cap become the American hero he never got to be on the frontlines. I’d still have WWII end like irl. I think it’d be cool as well to see this cap still be a hero in the modern age alongside the other heroes. It would be cool to see old man cap trying to keep up with other heroes during battles.
Captain America with imposter syndrome?
@@gustavocavaca1757 Sounds cool 👍 Cap could meet actual former soldiers and feel like a total dick because these guys actually fought and bled while all he did was pose for the propaganda that convinced some of them to join anyway. Feeding the romantic notions and glorification of war which destroy so many people in so many ways on all sides.
I really like that idea. And maybe in that version, he doesn't get the serum. But he earns his strength through good old fashioned lifting and finding out how to be strong naturally. A small guy who became tough through hard work and dedication. While also being a wholesome American. He is sort of a "Rocky" in some ways already. But I think you could put a spin even on that.
His powers and abilities were never really the point. It's that he symbolizes the American Ideal. So to me, absolute would mean that he doesn't have powers. But rather endless hope and optimism of a better world. With the will and grit to be the best version of himself
Here's my pitch for Absolute Captain America, make him more or less the same but make him a Jason Statham movie from the early 2000s
Captain beekeeper 🤔
@@Axson_Cinema Captain Crank. >:)
I'll love a version of a absolute captain america who didn't got any serum but worked hard like guy sensi in naruto and pushed his weak body to the limits like punisher
Another change i would make for Absolutel Captain america would be this:
He doesn't get chosen for the serum, instead they plan on going with bucky/ another soldier. He can either convince the soldier to trade places or just forcefully injects himself with the serum, forcing the US government to go along with the rest of the procedure
I feel like it would work better if they pulled a What If? and made it so that Steve just kind of hops in as a last second replacement because something goes wrong with the chosen soldier. Steve isn't the type to force people to conform to his wishes. And that shouldn't change.
Or what if the government forces skinny Steve to take the serum and he gets turned into basically the winter soldier but American
I like the idea of a Captain America that is stronger and never enter in cryogeny, but dislike the idea where he is a War Ender, i prefer a Nomad version, where he dislike any government, and do thing on his own way
A absolute blue beetle could be cool to see to be done
True!!! Absolute blue beetle would be cool to see what they would change
I can’t imagine how they would change Ted. Unless they just made him mean. If you mean Jamie however, maybe if he didn’t gain the scarab til adulthood.
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@@Allison_XypprZ that sounds just like the new ultimate spiderman.
@@Bass-ef3dr Kinda. Wasn’t thinking of it but definitely.
My idea for an absolute Thor is to make him more like the mythology Thor
so a villian
That version would be really powerful for example in the Norse lore Thor has created a star. Also, some Vikings believed he was the All-father.
@@saat14095 yup
@@fynnberry9915 well than you don't understand what is absolute comics cz they don't change the heros motive.
@ fair point, never actually read them but I just thought it was a cool idea
I feel like other superheroes could exist. Like America trying to make another cap resulting in the hulk and ironman. Thor could show up too
My idea is a future version of Captain America, aging and becoming a president. It could also be like Kingdom Come
Absolute Cap is skinny guy with two shields, that eats serums all over a world.
I think the point of absolute comics and I think it was said in the comics is what if the heroes existed without the major advantage part of their lives into becoming a hero. Batman it was his money, Superman his adopted parents, Diana the Amazons. I think in this case for cap it would either be what if captain america wasn't born in America or what if he didn't grow up with Bucky say.
Someone did an absolute ben 10.
Yes I saw it and it inspired this video 🙌
Dan the boy wonder made it
I feel like a cool idea for Absolute Captain America is to remove the war from the equation entirely! A Captain America who never had a war to shape him would be cool!
Hit the nail on the head right here. This would be a great change of circumstance.
Do absolute Tarzan. But instead of Tarzan being adopted by apes, Terk gets adopted by Tarzan and HIS family.
Absolute Captain America is just soldier boy because his morals are his biggest character trait
Yeah but solider boy isn’t really a person who would do the right thing and absolute versions are still supposed to be true to the characters goals
@@Axson_Cinemaehh debatable he was willing to kill homelander his own son because he knew how much of a threat he was
That is Mark Millar’s Ultimate Captain America (“Do you think this letter means France?”)
I think it’d be interesting to see him be born in Germany, and he will still get the super soldier serum (maybe they stole it from America) but as Steve fights in the war he realizes how corrupted Germany is. I think I’d be cool to see maybe Steve spare Bucky after fighting and they become friends. Eventually he will start to help America after realizing he is on the wrong side. This is sorta inspired by red son Superman
Something morbidly interesting. This German Steve Rogers would be Jewish and he was just used as a test subject for the super soldier serum which was intended to be used on the red skull, and while it worked perfectly in the inverse of what usually happens an Allied forces spy comes in and kills the Doctor who made the serum and destroys all of the remaining vials leaving Steve, as the only super soldier that the Germans have. So they force him to fight under threat of having his family executed. Until he eventually turns on them.
@@CassiusSharp that’s even better
@P1k5 Further details I came up with: Steve (actually no this man is German his name is Stefan an actual German version of the name Steven) Stefan joins the allies after some dumb soldiers in charge of the camp (I’ll say it was Bergen-Belson because it’s actually where Jewish Hostages were held) were his family was being held at had them killed without knowing they’re the only reason Stefan is still fighting for the Nazis. Also an interesting detail that should probably be explored more in comics; Absolute Captain America’s main villain isn’t Red Skull instead it’s Magneto because in this universe both were affected by the Holocaust. While it seems like it would be an easy fight for Magneto because he has used his power on Cap’s shield before it actually isn’t because both are very reluctant to fight each other and constantly make mistakes for one fact. Absolute Magneto is actually Stefan’s nephew; not biologically but Stefan’s sister to care of a young Magneto after his parents were killed (Stefan’s family was killed at Bergen-Belson but before super soldier experiments, they and Stephan were at Buchenwald with the Eishenhardt family) I changed the camp Magneto was at because Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviets but Buchenwald was liberated by the American Army and I want Cap to be the one who liberated Magneto from the camp to get them Magneto another reason why he hesitates and make mistakes when fight Stefan because he was the one who freed him and cared for him after the War.
Stefan is never call Captain America because while he did eventually move to America after the War. the German’s experimented on Stefan during the beginning of the War and his family was killed around November 1940. Meaning Stefan defect from the Nazis before the US ever joined the War and he fought with mostly British at first and with Russian Troops because reasons (I have a plan for this just go with it). So he was on multiple fronts in the War.
As I said Stefan eventually moved to America with Max, changing their names to Steven Roger and Eric Magnus to hide their identities. However Eric was put into foster care because Steve disappeared because he went to stop an American plane from dropping a nuclear bomb on Russia. He then meets an American man he fought alongside James Barnes. (This is why I had him fight alongside the Russian for a bit. So of course the Russians find the plane and turn Bucky into the Winter Soldier but Steve is left alone as one of the crew aboard the sub that finds the planes was one of the Russians Steve fight alongside.
I like this, in terms of pure powerset, this reminds me of Mr Incredible. A very straightforward meat and potatoes super hero with Immense Superhuman Strength and Invulnerability.
Yeah giving him more power will just help him amplify his characteristics 🤔
You could make him not frozen in the ice but make him brain washed by Russia but Bucky gets frozen in the ice and cap becomes the winter soldier Bucky becomes cap
A role reversal that be I interesting but that would be a better what if then a absolute version of a superhero 🤔
@@Axson_Cinema true
Wouldn't that just be captain hydra?
@@Bass-ef3dr nah Russian captain America because Bucky got shipped to the Russians in 616 but instead for this comment he gets frozen in ice.
@@TheblackguyTamakloe you have a point but then he would just be red guardian.
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Absolute Spider-Man does sound like a cool idea 🤔
@@Axson_Cinemauncle Ben never died so he’s an anti hero helping himself others and his beliefs regardless of if people get hurt
@@SpadunkkYes
I feel like the Spider-Verse stories have already dissected Peter as a character so much that any Absolute Spider-Man concept already exists as a Spider-Man variant
@@jpyanity443 you could say that but the spiderverse story’s Aline Spider-Man as a character typically with the same core values so an absolute Spider-Man would just change his values
This is super cool. This got me thinking of something like an absolute Captain Marvel, where Yonn-Rog doesn’t send Marv on that mission to earth alone and instead Mar-Vell just becomes a grizzled war hero(therefore Una doesn’t die, Marv doesn’t get cancer, Ronin doesn’t get viewed kinder by heroes like the F4 by proxy, et cetera).
do an absoluta dardevil this time he can see and all his powers revolve around his sight making him slowly lose all his other senses, idk something like that.
I’m pretty sure Marvel has done something like that already where he got heimdall powers
All right I seen your absolute Captain America and you're absolute Spider-Man it's time to do the avengers the absolute avengers
Be on the lookout something like that is coming out really soon 🤫
They already done that twice: Heroes Reborn in the 90s and Ultimate Marvel in the 00s
Absolute iron man please 🙏
How about an Absolute Spider-Man where they don't actually take away anything. He has both his parents, Uncle Ben and Gwen never died, and both MJ and Gwen are competitive for his attention.
Spider-Man a happy person?? Impossible 😅
We have seen that before. In the 90's Spider-Man cartoon and the first "Spider-verse" there was a version of Pete who never lost anything including a fight
We need an Absolute Batman flick with Alan Ritchson as the Caped Crusader. He would be an absolute UNIT.
This is amazing.
Thank you
Absolute spiderman
Soldier boy came in to my mind😅
Do absolute Wolverine
Ultimate Wolverine already exists
I’ve got one. Absolute Fantastic Four. Instead of knowing each other, they’re four random scientists/astronauts chosen for the mission (Johnny and Sue aren’t siblings). They still gain powers and the US government makes form a team. They’re never “Marvel’s first family”, just people who work together
Gotta say it’s fantastic
@@Axson_Cinemasay that again..
@@averynormalacount2887 Real Funny Dude
My take on an absolute captain America is yo have him be an orphan who grew up in Germany during world War II. He starts working for hydra thinking he's on the right team, but slowly he realizes the horrors they're committing and how hard it is to remove his brainwashing
I thought of Absolute Quake (Daisy Johnson best known from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Secret Warriors for those who have no clue who she is). the aspect I would take away from her character is either her "Family" (that being the Secret Warriors and Nick Fury, very much a found family thing like the Guardians of The Galaxy movies) or her Loyalty to/Faith in S.H.I.E.L.D., both of these options basically get rid of Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D. but both in different ways
Option 1: without a sense of belonging she's an emotional wreck with earthquake powers, I'd imagine she'd go after her Father (Mr. Hyde) and try to stop him, this version of Quake is never trained by Fury and therefore will not have Fury's mentality of "achieving the greater good and protecting the world by any means nescescary" so I don't think She'd kill Hyde since even though she's a wreck and never got the guidance she needs, she still has a good heart, but she would probably feel more lost which could lead her to many interesting stories.
Option 2: in this version she is trained by Fury but just never got attached to him and S.H.I.E.L.D. the way she did before, but she will still have his mentality this would probably make her more of a Punisher type character taking out corrupt politicians and secret Hydra agents, she'd eventually come into conflict with Valentina Contessa Allegra De Fontaine who in this story is more unhinged and bitter because Fury is dead in this universe, S.H.I.E.L.D. is still around and they've branded Quake a rogue agent making S.H.I.E.L.D. another antagonist.
Option 2 is maybe a little close to what Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 4 does in it's first arc, though I think it is different enough.
You qre such a clown you only known quake from a TV show
Absolute flash: flash but he’s paralyzed from the waste down
This should've just been left for the cafeteria table.
My idea Ron an absolute captain America is where after taking the super soldier serum he he does it just like the comics where he becomes stronger,His physical appearance is better,He’s faster but he losses some of morals and becomes more violent.
So basically you made him super proper
I like the idea that he becomes the Maestro / Maker / pseudo world dictator of your Absolute Marvel
You should do absolute Spider-man
My pitch for this would be leave the Captain as is: a kid from brooklyn, picked due to gumtpion and patriotism to become America's superweapon, given a serum that makes him the ultimate human...
Take away the war.
The theme s about the USA's eternal need for conflict and superweapons as a diplomacy-resolving technique after WW2, and the forever war we ve been locked in for 8 decades.
Steve escapes, realizes he isnt needed but was only the latest victim of the military-industrial complex, and goes on a revenge
Absolute Captain America: Doctor Erskine is never assassinated and America is being able create more super soldiers and win WW2 faster.
Cap doesn't go under the ice and stays in his time period.
The thing that he loses is his popularity and his respect as a symbol
I would love to see absolute iron man
Absolute Ironman could be the shrapnel made it all the way to his heart and instead he builds the Ironman suit not as a way to free himself from his captors, but to replace his dying body
Off the top of my dome i have a core idea, he never became a man out of time, either he never gets frozen, and becomes america’s immortal soldier, fighting the good fight, but over time sees America continue to enter conflicts. Or B he actually died and our absolute captain america is an anthology series following each and every successor, who step up to face america’s conflicts, each one a man who admired steve each for their own reasons, and see how these men, lived up to steve’s example in vastly different time periods.
Soldier boy is honestly a pretty good base for absolute cap, flip it on its head and have the bully be the guy who gets the serum. Just like soldier boy he can be a flawed man not at all like Steve and throughout his time in the war he becomes much more like traditional Steve, already being the perfect soldier but having to learn how to be a good man
You should do an Absolute Avengers, add all the characters together
Make Cap a strong dude like Jack Reacher at birth, then give him stories that'll teach him the reason he should protect the weak from bullies. I think this would teach many that power comes with a mission to protect the needed in a better way since we now realize that despite him being strong at birth meaning he never got bullied and therefore developed the urge to fight bullies early on, he still chose to fight for those cannot fight for themselves. Basically make him Flash Thompson if he became spiderman.
As for what stories should be written to motivate him to be a hero that's not my job lmao
I think one way to do it would be make that hes orophan and he gets adpoted by rich people, beicoming more careless, and that by nepotism gets the serum but the serum makes him the face of america and he begins to become humble and more heroic kind of like switching personalities with Tony Stark
I think something similar to what happened to him in Spider-man: Life Story would be interesting, as him ditching the America name in favor of battling the people who are directly being damaged by the USA. Him going rogue in Vietnam or even in South America could be an interesting plot point, but i do think that at that point he would be more "Nomad" than Captain America
But i do think that the USA government would try to do another Captain America, mainly for their agenda or public image. Maybe this new Cap becomes that lapdog that keeps the rest of the world at bay for the USA government to control. Someone like Jhonn Walker, but i think that most heartbreaking would be Bucky. Basically, turning the Captain America mantle into the equivalent of the Winter Soldier on this world.
Great pitch! Have you thought about how you would tie in a potential Absolute Winter Soldier to this version of Capt?
I believe that, with the absolute marvel universe, characters are gonna stronger or weaker. So i believe that other super heroes would still pop up, and the avengers would still form.
I've wanted to see an absolute Cole Macgrath from infamous, maybe take away the incident that stopped him wanting to graduate but idk what you key part you could take away, ooh you could take away the blast incident from the first game, but he just naturally has his powers
so he's big boss ok Gotcha NO ONE HEARS A WOOOOED I SAYYYYYY
Great idea bud! My problem is that this sounds a lot like Superman. It would be tough to write for.
Absolute captain America is a guy from the future accidentally being sent to modern times, and since he lived as a soldier in a utopia of democratic freedom, he’s extremely critical of how American society works at that current time, so he chooses to become a symbol for the people.
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If this version of Cap existed, guaranteed people would try and make their own versions to fight him, so it's possible to get an Absolute Black Widow or an Absolute Hulk.
Also, the X Men would exist regardless due to the X gene, and Thor and the gods would still exist since they are in another realm.
And I can see Cap trying to get as many to his side as possible
We NEED absolute Martian Manhunter
Brother do I have something to tell you 😅
@@Axson_Cinemarelease date march 2025 can't wait for it
My idea for an absolute Captain America is him being like Soldier Boy (lying about his past of being picked on) and Flash Thompson. It wasn't until he joined the war that changed him. He saw what it was like being on the other end of being picked on and getting shoved and thrown into lockers. After proving himself, him and his friend James were signed for the super soldier program to be the faces of America. Instead of being put on the front line, like james was Steve, was put as the poster boy for the American Government and didn't really see any action for a while. It wasn't until he heard that his other friend Bucky was killed in battle, and James was kidnapped by the Nazis. Steve, with the help of a few soldiers, broke protocol and went to break out their friends. They were successful at breaking them out, but Steve saw the real horror of what was going on and was filled with disgust and hatred, and with the help of James, Anthony Stark, and full support of the US Government created what would become S.H.I.E.L.D . Due to the serum, James and Steve lived another 4 decades after the war, living past all of their comrades. After a mission failed, that "took" the lives of James and his friends, Steve couldn't face his mistakes and faked his own death, leaving everything behind even his own son and wife. It wasn't until present day that he was thrown back into his old life to once again protect his home
So you’re suggesting the Captain America that lifts even more
Exactly 😎
@@Axson_Cinema genius
My pitch for absolute captain America: take away the frozen on ice,in this he still goes to war but ages much slower,the supersoldier serum was also masproduse in this universe so cap isn't the only one,and in the modern day he would be a hero with so many trauma,his life after the war turns horrible,and in some places he is wanted,also his personality is bit More rough,he is still a Good person and a great hero,his suit would have More darker colors and his shield is damaged just like john walker's in thunderbolts
I need to jump on the absolute dc run. I have been pretty on and off comics for a few years now
This is absolutely amazing I got so many questions like first of all did you basically have cap have the Sentry serum? Or is he not that OP? Second what would you do with caps design? third because the absolute universe is a lot more darker because of darksied dose he use Guns more often?
Dc wanted an ultimates
That's why they created absolute.
Now non DC characters in absolute 😂
Absolute Thor would be interesting if Loki was/made himself to be the one that’s worthy just to realize it’s way more than he bargained for actually being God of Thunder
Absolute daredevil- he's not blind lol
My pitch for absolute Iron Man: I'm both going to take away and give tony something rather than just taking away a traditional core element by rather than having him go through a struggle to becoming Iron Man, the armor is gifted to him buy a future version of himself to prevent a dark future. With Tony becoming Iron Man far earlier than he should and without the Arc reactor incident, Tony must see the effects of his arms dealings, the sins of his father, and the hellish weapons he's designed for the United States government in real time and must take a turn from standing for those things to standing against. In short as he does hero work he realizes that he's the one responsible for the horror he's witnessing.
Hulk: Without Bruce Banner… without his rage… without gamma radiation… what’s left is the Absolute Jade Giant!
Spider-Man: Without the spider-bite… without Aunt May and Uncle Ben… without the lesson responsibility… what’s left is the Absolute Wall-Crawler!
Wolverine: Without his adamantium… without his memory loss… without his mutation… what’s left is the Absolute Wolverine!
Captain America: Without the super soldier serum… without his patriotism… without the loss of time… what’s left is the Absolute Sentinel of Liberty!
Iron Man: Without his company… without his armor… without his time in trapped in a cave… what’s left is the Absolute Armored Avenger!
Thor: Without Asgard… without Mjolnir… without his title… what’s left is the Absolute God of Thunder!
X-Men: Without Professor X… without their mission of human/mutant co-existence… without their mutations… what’s left are the Absolute Merry Mutants!
Fantastic Four: Without their family love… without their powers… without their each other… what’s left is the Absolute First Family!
Absolute iron man: take away pepper pots, he’d be surrounded by soldiers and war mongers, the iron man weapon would lead start industries. Every war zone would have stark armor paired with stark weapons, tone down the strength of captain America and it would be the effect enemy
I think there’s some real interesting points to work with for an absolute captain America that I’d love to see, especially given how many things can change with him. The two main things I’d think about exploring are the ideas that Steve was never the chosen candidate but thrust himself into that role or Steve lacking patriotism because captain America becomes born out of nationalism. Instead of removing his American pride make it based in his belief of a deceitful and propagandized version of the country that never existed. He lacks empathy with others and for movements of social Justice because he was raised in a sheltered ultra nationalistic environment that didn’t consider the rest of the world. This makes him easier to control by the government and he must slowly start to confront how those in power are using him for their own will and how that may never even have been for the good of the country but for their personal gain. Explore corruption and the frailty of the current state of the American dream or more so the American reality. In this scenario winter soldier and falcon would be forces trying to pull Steve out of his red, white and blue glasses by either attempting to make him rebel against the state in a violent, no holds barred, revolutionary matter or by Unionizing with those around him that have been ignored or left behind by the country at large. Winter soldier would be a former soldier and potentially another super soldier that reneges against the states after deciding he’s done being a pawn, acting as an extremist and the number one anti government terrorist according to those who Steve is commanded by. He doesn’t necessarily have to serve russia or others but his allegiances are called into question by his ideology and praxis. Falcon could be the champion of the disadvantaged or a fighter for the rights of the people, having chosen the bird since the American eagle has historically given them nothing of value. He would help open Steve’s eyes to the way people live and how those above have always punched down, he would also offer Steve an alternate approach to bucky’s one man war against Washington. You could also tie in other characters by making them consequences of Steve’s actions. By dropping his blind loyalty and going rogue on government commands, they look toward other super soldiers and end up with monsters like the hulk they try to unleash on him and then later by extension red hulk. Iron man would be one of the people involved with disarming those that used to control cap, inheriting stark and turning it from a weapons manufacturer to the start of a global disarmament crusade. You could also introduce other characters from shied like Nick fury or maria hill as his handler and people who kept him in line or coerced him into fighting in wars he would otherwise not have.
So basically SUPERMAN!
the propaganda aspect was the primary cause of his invention as a character, he was drawn to represent everything the eugenics movement was striving for fighting against them, so making steve look like adolf hitler or making him black, jewish, and gay would drastically alter how he was used as a propaganda piece by the US and seeing as the US had far different views of the latter demographics in the 1940s that one I think would make for more interesting stories
my pitch would be to remove his shield and absolute cap would get a vibranium vest and helmet instead of his iconic shield
I think better idea would be usa that colapsed
It's an interesting idea but would he still be called Captain America or Captain Planet.
Absolute Thor where he’s just norse mythology accurate and is kinda a bad guy
Absolute captain America but he’s an anarchist
😂 absolute Captain America being a black man during World War II.
I want to add to this idea, because I love it, but I don't think you even need to prevent other superheroes from existing; by giving Captain America this, supreme power, you've essentially turned him into a Superman of Marvel comics. Sure, other heroes might exist, Thor is still around, Iron Man may still become a thing, and I think the Avengers may form much sooner, but centered around Captain America, and his goals to make a better world.
I can see this version of Captain America struggling with the fact he has all of this power, and balancing just how much he should use it. After all, the Nazis needed to be stopped, but what about the USSR? What about when America needs to be stopped? I think this Captain America comes to embody an icon for the human race, something greater to aspire to, the god who was once a man. This even becomes a question of "Should humanity even ascend to this point?" Lots of fun stories to explore here, and scenarios to explore exactly what a perfect world looks like, according to Captain America.
However, this ends up just feeling like a power buff, not some kind of Absolute version.
My idea for an absolute Captain America is a world where the superhero is more of an idea. Let’s just say in this universe, during WW2, Americans are losing hope. People stop seeing the point in signing up to fight. The draft is the only thing bringing in new soldiers and even then, people are almost revolting. Seeing that America is almost completely uninterested in fighting, someone hatches an idea. What if we make up a superhero. In this world Captain America still starts off as the weak skinny kid from Brooklyn. But instead of giving Steve a real super soldier serum, they lie. They train Steve to be at peak human physicality sure, they give him a suit that’s bullet proof, they give him the shield, but the “super serum” is just a placebo. By giving Americans the idea that they created the first super soldier, it gives them hope, it’s makes people want to join the fight.
isnt ht ethor idea just thor god of fists but different?
Try absolute Thor or Ironman
It would be cool if Absolute Thor got the Superman origin. Ragnorok happens early and Odin decides to send a baby Thor to Earth to keep him safe. Maybe Thor could be raised by vikings
Edit: I forgot that only MCU Thor is 1500 years old and comic Thor is said to be a million years old
Wanna hear my pitch?
What if Steve Rogers, a brilliant but unassuming young scientist, was recruited by the U.S. government to infiltrate the Nazi war machine? Instead of a physical transformation, his journey would be a psychological and moral one, a descent into a world of darkness and despair.
Sent undercover into the heart of Nazi Germany, Steve becomes entangled with Hydra, a shadowy organization obsessed with harnessing supernatural power. Their ultimate goal: to create an army of super soldiers, beings of immense power and unquestioning loyalty.
As Steve delves deeper into Hydra's secrets, he uncovers a horrific truth: their experiments are far more sinister than he could have imagined. The serum they've developed, a concoction of ancient alchemy and advanced science, doesn't merely enhance human abilities. It corrupts and transforms, turning its subjects into grotesque, monstrous beings.
Steve witnesses firsthand the horrifying results of Hydra's experiments: people reduced to shells of their former selves, their bodies twisted and mutilated. He becomes increasingly horrified by the organization's cruelty and the devastating impact of their research. They called this creatures the "Red Skulls".
A moral dilemma arises: should he steal the serum for the U.S. government, potentially unleashing a new arms race, or should he destroy it, risking the lives of countless innocent people? Torn between duty and conscience, Steve makes a fateful decision.
In a desperate attempt to sabotage Hydra's plans, Steve is captured and subjected to the very serum he sought to destroy. As the serum courses through his veins, he undergoes a harrowing transformation, his body contorted and his mind warped. Turning himself as a red skull like the others.
But even in his transformed state, Steve's spirit remains unbroken. He escapes from Hydra's clutches, a monstrous figure driven by a singular purpose: to dismantle the organization from within and prevent it from ever threatening humanity again. In the end, He returned back to USA in his deformed look. The goverment was shock, but since Steve didn't return with the serum, he was instead forced by the goverment to be tested.
Howard Stark, the lead scientists for the US Government decided to help him, by giving him a type of armor, that not only protected his flesh and body, but also give him some enhanced metabolism and strength. Seeing how well this "Armor + Steve" Combination, The US Government, decided to call this program "The War Machine" initiative. But sadly, before they can reproduce other suits, Howard was Brutally murdered by some of Schimdt's henchman, who stole some of his ideas/plans to return it to the nazi's back at Germany.
So in short, Steve became a super soldier for the US Army. Since he has a powerful suit of armor, the Army decided to put him into the front line, But of course it wasn't as easy as they thought. Even though Steve has powers and incredible strength, he wasn't a fighter. He didn't know how to kill or to fight. So he needs to grow with this new power along the way.
At first other soldiers mocked at him, laughing at the man that was stuck inside the large chunk of metal. They mock at his bright red skin. But Steve remained calm. His determination to end the war was the only thing on his mind. To end the HYDRA initiative. As he continues to save more and more people + mission, people finally began to see him not as a weird monster/metal as they think. They finally started to see him as a hero. They finally called him "Captain America".
He’s Captain Planet
Absolute iron man, what if he didn’t get kidnapped? Or wasnt rich.
Yeah I thought about what if he wasn’t rich but he’s a still a super genius so he could still build an iron man suit like the quote goes, “ Tony Stark built this in a cave with a box of scraps!”
@@Axson_Cinema wait, is this sarcasm cause that’s in the MCU..
So he is Dr. Manhattan?
Yeah but he actually cares about people’s feelings and issues so dr manhattan but with a personality
kinda reminds me of superman red son
Ok but why not just make him strong and cocky before the serum not willing to cover tge grenade with his body and show how he acts with the serum but keep bucky as his friend maybe hes content being a performing monkey bcs hes fame hungry but only after his best friend goes missing does he step up to help but not for the right reasons just to keep his friends safe and then when bucky falls off the train he becomes extremely unhinged and brutal bcs he never had his morals instilled in him i think that this cap would still defeat red skull but i dont think hed be willing to risk his life maybe defeating red skull in a different way
That is also a really good version the use of Bucky as his reading is also pretty pretty interesting 🤔
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But have you ever read Ultimate Captain America?
Here's my own idea for Absolute captain america I would keep the same ideas you presented with him. Being the perfect supersoldier, just not to the same godlike extent and make him Instead of being frozen in ice , he sees america's Hypocrisy He will begin to see that The system that he's fighting for is It's both hypocritical and toxic. he will see all the different things. Throughout America's history, all the bad And good will still be there, but he'll notice all The Times that we've let down our soldiers. Hurt our own people. All The Times we've let corruption. Fester , how We're willing to cut deals with horrible people that have done atrocities just for information to improve ourselves. And let these people get lighter Punishment With all this happening over decades nearly a hundred years We will see a Captain America who has seen the best and the worst of America And how Will a man deal with this? How will Captain America deal with seeing his Home, do all these things see how it changes and how In truth. it never truly Changes, there's Always an excuse for what they do And how much will this change him?
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Captain country
Your pitch is interesting but the main point of the absolute universe or absolute concept is to make the heroes the underdogs (most of them already were but this time they really have a disadvantage). If Captain America was in the absolute universe he would have never went to war or would have not taken the serum, maybe Captain America at first would end up being someone else and he would take the mantle.
Ok heres one the boys homelander imagine instead of being raised in a lab he grows up with two loveing parents i think hed still end up konda corrupt bcs i feel like even as a kid hed deal with a lot of publicity and a lot of fans hed be famous from a young age going to expos and stuff like that similar to starlight but unlike starlight he likes the attention buy it wouldnt be his only motivator bcs when hed go to far hed think abt his parents and how in his teenage years they died in a plane that hes on with them he trys to save the plane by going outside and flying towrds the nose but ends up going straight throigh the whole plane in this scenario i think that would cause him to not focus on fame as much and saveing lives so i feel on flight 37 instead of leaving the plane hed come up with a solution after all this is a more ecmxperienced homelander i feel like in this scenario hed actually be helping the boys i feel that butchers wife would still be sa but instead by a different hero a hero thats done that before im of course talking abt the deep shed be pregnant with the deeps kid this time however she wouldnt be placed in hideing bcs the deep is not nearly as threatening vought wouldnt tell the deep of course but when butcher finds out that a supe did this hed lose it wanting revenge for what the deep did makeing it hid goal to kill deep and take vought down thats where homelander would come in butcher would be coming for the deep homelander would find out abt this and talk to butcher learning about the deeps actions hed make the deep leave the seven and make a public apology but this wouldnt please butcher hed still want the deeps head throughout this the deep would go through his whole thing with the church and feel remorse for his actions hed show up at butchers home looking to apologize for what he did butchers wife answered with a kid behind her that was no older than two wearing nothing but a diper and u could see his gills thats when the deep would get mad nad at her mad at vought for keeping it a secret hed then try to fight for his kid he wanted some sort of custody but since hes not as strong as homelander he cant really show up and demand to see the kid so he needs to think of something whilst all this is going on homelander finds out about some of his heros useing compound V to enhance their powere and works on a way of stopping it during this hed still be dateing maeve and maybe even propose in this version hed be a real hero shed probably still fall for him shed be at his side during all this helping her put a stop to the V in this scenario i dont think he would know that they were made in a lab i think he would just asume the v only rnhanced powers not make the heros i think once he found out hed be so upset upset that his parents lied and said he was special that god chose him upset that they were doing this to children so i think hed leak the info of the compound V i think that at first people would be mad but vought would ultimately turn it on their favor i think that homelander leaking this would get him kicked out of the seven in this version hes not homicidel so they wouldnt be scared to kick him out enicially maeve would want to leave but homelander would tell her to stay to be his eyes and ears so homelander goes off on his own i think hed actually start working with butcher however homelander had his morals kinda like a captain america he wouldnt wanna kill the supes that him and butcher take down instead arresting them during all this the deep attempts and succededes at kidnapping his son so homelander and butcher go after him trying to get the kid back eventually they find them and i feel that butcher would kill the deep or at least seriously injure to the point of crippling him around this time they would replace homelander with stormfront makeing her the leader the beggining of her showing up would stay the same shed speak out against vought wich would catch homelanders attantion and hed try to recruit her to their cause despite butchers warnings that somethin didnt feel right she wouldnt join but occasionally give info on vought to gain homelanders trust and it would work theyd become close hanging out in their free time makeing maeve jealous wich would cause tention between the two women i think hed stay with maeve but for a while it would be like a will they wont they situatiom eventually butcher wod find out shes a literal nazi telling homelander and he would be crushed he trusted her hed become fruends with her and now he had to arrest her he did do the right thing he leaked the proof of her nazi involvment but this broke him homelander quit after this he quit everything he even blocked maeve out butvher tried to check on him the world was wondering what happened to their best hero thats where im gonna leave this i think itd be a cool idea even if u went a completely different direction i do think their would be a way of bringing homelander back in the future kinda like how mm came back something comes up and he has info on it somethin like that also in this version remember stormfront didnt die just got arrested so she can return maybe even be the reason homelander puts the cape back on u may notice i left out the other boys thats bcs i picture this takeing place a few years ago where this version of ryan is a todler liveing in the city with his mom and butcher not in hideing their wouldnt be a reason to go in hideing
Does he know? 💀
Didn't they already did it with the ultimate series and that failed