Brother Robert I am so thankful that you have taken the time to put this together for our edification!!! Absolutely brilliant work dear brother. I, too, am tired and so so ready to meet our dear Savior Jesus face to face. Oh what a glorious day it will be. I do believe that all true believers are feeling a strong sense that He is about to come for us. Blessings to you. I pray that you remain strong 💪 for a few more days.. don’t let the enemy steal your crown 👑!!! Big hugs 🫂 and much love to you my Christian brother in Jesus Christ. 🎉
The enemy is in for a surprise………they thought they got away with it………they only cut themselves off from his grace and mercy.,………..the song……..from billie eilish comes to mind…….you should see me in a crown……….soon……soon…………she is oh so hungry
AWESOME Brother Robert, very powerful & positive Signs you have found Sir. I desperately hope u are right. I wappened to be born on the Cusp of Capricorn/ Aquarius so it is very interesting to me, I’m definitely feeling the dying side, but can’t wait to jump up like the Dolphins Fish, what a Beautiful Picture , thank you so much. 🩵🙏💍🎉🌟 See you when we are all Healed to perfect Health in our Perfect Home. Amen 🙏
Merci pour tes vidéos. Que Dieu te bénisse, toi et ta femme. God bless us all. Moi aussi je suis épuisée et chaque jour je prie Viens, Seigneur Jésus! I hope it's very soon. Almost home. Jésus nous soutient. We will make it! 🙏❤
I love you for never giving up. I'll bet the enemy is using the looking glass technology, cern, AI, and whatever else they can to figure out the date. I had a moment of clarity the other day about why all these dates have been correct despite the fact that we're still here. But, then my usual fog brain returned and that epiphany faded. There is something about time being rolled up like a scroll, concurrent timelines with different scenarios, designed to keep Satan in the dark. It's been on the tip of my brain for at least a couple of years, but I can't seem to grasp it. We'll find out soon enough. I'm telling you this for encouragement. You have not been wrong about any of it. It pleases Abba to see his children working so diligently to solve the puzzle he has set before us. Stay strong family. I love you all.
Before I even watch the video, I believe that the next new moon is the time for all born again believers to go home and that is my final answer. And since the end of the seven-year tribulation is the last day of 2031 and the 1,000 year millennial starts at the beginning of 2,032, and for the timeline to fit we have to leave by the end of January 2,025
I pray for an immediate rapture! Oh Lord, how much longer must we endure this fallen and sinful world and our fallen sinful flesh suits? Come for us in haste, our Lord! But all praise and glory to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ who justifies, redeems, sanctifies, seals and saves us forever through His FINISHED work at the cross! Hallelujah! 🙌🏼♥️🩸✝️💯🆙
Praying for it to happen meaning also wishing death on others. It is satanic and our bible tells us not to Even think about it or worry about it. Not Even jesus knows the hour and he always had the answer
Mon cher frère en Jésus, je sais que tu es au bout du roulot. Dieu le sait aussi! Tu n'es pas seul! Dommage que tu demeures si loin de notre assemblée en Estrie. As-tu une assemblée chrétienne avec qui tu peux partager et prier les uns pour les autres dans ton coin? Une buche loin du feu vient qu'à s'éteindre. En tout cas, je prie pour toi et ta femme. Pour les dates de surveillance, je regarde plusieurs vidéos chaque jour, et il y a encore des dates très intéressantes si janvier passe.
Cela va jusqu'à la fête des trompettes de 2025. Mais nous espérons tous que ce soit avant! Je sais une chose par contre, nous ne sommes pas éprouvés au-delà de nos forces malgré ce qu'on vie quotidiennement. Le Seigneur l'a dit et il a promi d'être avec nous jusqu'à la fin du monde, il ne te quittera jamais. Il est la vérité, il ne ment jamais. Chaque jour, des tas de croyants sont excessivement malades, ou ils ont tout perdu, mais Dieu est au contrôle et il leur donne la force de continuer à chaque jour qui passe. Plusieurs pensent qu'ils ne pourront pas continuer longtemps, mais ils sont toujours là car Dieu veille sur eux et donne la force pour se rendre jusqu'à la ligne d'arrivée. Continue ta course mon frère, Jésus est à côté de toi, il te dit de continuer en regardant toujours à lui. La ligne d'arrivée est proche! Tu seras si heureux d'avoir tenu jusqu'au bout! Que le Seigneur fasse briller sa face sur toi et qu'il te bénisse!
@@carolecote331 What Beautiful words of Encouragement Carole, I believe this message floats over to all who need its message, I know I did, so thank you from all of us who are dragging our feet as we are worn out and dying. Yes Jesus told me yesterday, to Trust Him, he Has it all in His Capable hands, and I Believe Him, and Trust in Him. Amen! ✋🏻🙏🩷
“And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow 🌈 (7, colors ~ 7, angles finding middle upon face) round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.” 74th verse Jesus = 74 74, degrees = 1.29, radians 1/29 Revelation 12:9 Year of snake Satan cast out Strongs G226, to teach truth 2:26 AM. Central Revelation 2:26 2 Thessalonians 2:6 Revelation 22:6 “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” Value of verse in Greek 10260 102.6, degrees 10:26 AM. Jerusalem Value of Matthew 25:6, in Greek 8140 814, minutes left
Just going by the future dates that we have available and the numbers like 1260 days, it looks like we could have a solid timeframe. If meteor Apophis happens to be wormwood trumpet 3, which it looks like it could be because its the only meteor in the timeframe that's also coming closer to the earth than many of our satellites that orbit, even 10x closer than the moon with no idea what will happen with our gravitational pull, especially when the north and south magnetic poles are shifting. But it's set to come close in April 2029, so 3.5 years(7 seals) and 0.5-1 year(1-2 trumpets) earlier, 4-4.5 years prior would put the beginning of the tribulation between November 2024 and April 2025. Of course the rapture even before that. Even Israel's 80th birthday(Jacob's trouble) at the middle of the tribulation also points to the same timeframe, between now and April 2025 for start of trib. With all other signs added, it's looking very promising.
You cannot and no one else can calculate the rupture. BIBLE SAYS EVEN JESUS DONT KNOW THE HOUR.. We are told not to worry about it, so dont. While we live we are supposed to spread the word and be good to others. I hope you will become happy, we all decerve happyness but sadly happyness is not something we are promised by God. We are told that people will ahte us and persecute us for beliving in God. If your life is hard you should be happy, you are living Right
ALL FEAST DAYS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED: If not there is no need for Israel to accept Christ, their sins will be forgiven on the unfulfilled feast day Yom Kippur Christ said HE CAME TO FULFILLED THE LAW - Matthew 5:17
libra 1 - is always feast of trumpets, the last day. the dead rise on the last day. libra one to libra 23, then scorpio 1. the three festivals of the lord last 23 days.
The rapture doctrine is unbiblical fiction. Matthew 24:21-31 provides a very clear timeline. 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Note also that day and the coming of Christ is invariably singular in scripture. Revelation 10:6-7 identifies the last trump as the seventh trumpet. This passage even says it's the mystery as in 1 Corinthians 15:51. John 6:39-54 places the resurrection of 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 at the last day which also aligns with Revelation 10:6. 1 Thessalonians 3:3-4 John 16:33 Luke 17:22-24 John 17:15 Hebrews 9:28; Jesus comes back a second time, not a third time. Revelation 21:1-10; The bride is the city of Jerusalem. Luke 9:23; if you don't take up your cross and follow Him, you cannot be His disciple. This doesn't sound like a pretribulation rapture. Revelation 14:1; It is actually the 144,000 who returns with Christ at the second coming, not a "raptured church." Also, wrath is poured out in verse 8 of that chapter, hardly before the tribulation. Remember Noah returned to the earth, Lot never left and the Children of Israel were in Egypt the entire time during the plagues. This renders Old Testament typology completely moot. He tells the church at Smyrna to be faithful unto death, so I don't think you can use Revelation 3:10. The rapture doctrine was made up by John Darby in the 1830s.
1 Thess 1:10 "..waiting for Jesus to deliver us from the wrath to come" 1 Thess 5:9 "For we are not appointed to wrath, but to obtain salvation.." God's wrath begins on the first seal, He uses the AC just as He uses Nebuchadnezzar and Magog. 1 Thess 4 rapture uses pronouns "WE and YOU"=Day 1 Thess 5 Day of the Lord uses "THEY and THEM"= Night "Comfort each other with these words". If people think that they have to endure the Day of the Lord, they're not going to get much comfort from those words. 2 Thess 1:7 Jesus bringing angels for war. Day of the Lord 2 Thess 2:1 "Concerning the coming of our Lord(Day of the Lord) and our gathering together unto Him(rapture). Two events. "Don't be troubled as though the day of Christ(of the Lord) had come" 2:3 "For that Day(of the Lord) will not come unless THE apostasia comes FIRST, and the man of sin is revealed." Gathering together unto Him= THE apostasia/THE departure. THE falling away doesn't exist, AN apostasy yes, but there is no event called THE falling away or the apostasy. There is an event specified as THE departure, Paul just referred to it by clarifying what he means by "our gathering together unto Him". THE departure he's referring to is in his first letter, 1 Thess 4 the departure of the church, the rapture. If apostasia means falling away then Paul didn't clarify what he meant by our gathering together unto Him for the rest of the letter, causing confusion and not comfort like intended for not explaining what THE apostasy is, after he just spent the last three chapters talking about just two specific events, the rapture and the day of the Lord. Paul doesn't talk about A falling away for the first time until the future letter to Timothy, so Thessalonica would have no idea what he's talking about by vaguely referencing an event that he calls THE apostasia, unless he's talking about the departure from the letter that he just wrote to them and clarifying what he meant two lines earlier. I'm trying brother, in all honesty it doesn't matter what we believe as long as total faith is in Jesus for Atonement of sins. I'm just happy that you're sealed with the Holy Spirit, doctrine will figure itself out with a humble heart. God bless you
@Mediocre_JT I'm guessing you didn't read the scriptures I posted. 1. The Day of the Lord, the Day of Christ and "that day" are all the same event. Note that in 2 Thessalonians 2:1, he mentioned the Day of the Lord first and then the gathering. If it had been the other way, you might have a point. Seee that in Matthew 24:21-31, it is the same order as 2 Thessalonians 2:1. The Day of the Lord can be found in detail in Joel 2. Note also that there is no rapture event mentioned in Matthew 24 prior to verse 21. There are only warnings of persecution and false prophets. 2. The falling away, Strongs 646 is departure from the faith, not the earth. I don't care how many times JD Farag repeats it. You can also look apostasia up in the Greek dictionary. It says nothing about getting snatched from the earth. Paul would not have had to explain apostasia to a first century crowd. 3. Why would believers need comfort if they are to be taken out before the tribulation? "We who are alive and remain..." from exactly what? 4. According to Revelation 14:10, God's wrath is Hell. So unless you are planning to go there, I wouldn't worry about the wrath. I would suggest reading the rest of my post.
@ no but prayer and fasting will help you understand scripture and then you will gain faith. Obviously you lack understanding. By saying the rapture of the bride of Christ is unbiblical and fiction you are grossly lacking in knowledge and understanding.
We must measure the pre trib "theory" against scripture, right? 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 and 1 Thess 4:16-17 are obviously the same event, and it takes place at the "last" trump (1 Cor 15:52). What happens at the last trump? Jesus returns. The 2nd coming and our gathering to Him ARE the same event; there's no pre trib rapture in scripture. How can we testify against the anti christ and be caught up at the same time? What good are the "elect" if we're not here to testify? It makes zero sense. The answers are in there, please seek and find them. I'm convinced, as I've studied the "pre trib rapture theory" for over 40 years (and I bought into it) that it's a satanic deception.... teaching that Christ shows up for His church before the anti christ gets here, when scripture teaches the complete opposite.... be careful please because scripture teaches that the anti christ shows up first, looking just like Christ, doing miracles to deceive the elect, and that he will deceive people with peace and prosperity; 2 Thess 2:3-4 and Daniel 8:24-25. Pre trib believers are vulnerable to this lie. He will not show up persecuting believers, that's happening now. And why wouldn't Jesus mention the pre trip rapture to His beloved apostles when they asked Him about the time of His coming and the end of the age in Matt 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13? In fact, He said the complete opposite! That we should prepare to testify! Pre trib preachas say this scripture doesn't pertain to the "church", that the "church" is not going to be here, but they can't prove it with scripture, and that's ridiculous when you think about it; that Christ's warnings don't pertain to us, the church?! Read also John 6:39,40,44,54... he will raise us up at the "last" day.... that word is "last".. .the last day... no pre trib. Matt 24:13 and Mark 13:13 "... those who "endure" until the "end" shall be saved. That word "endure" is Greek word # 5278 and the definition is; to tarry behind, to stay behind, to remain, not recede or flee.... check it out. So the pre trib doctrine teaches "don't be left behind", when Jesus teaches that only those who are left behind will be saved. This should concern all those believing pre trib theory. Don't worry, the Lord will give you the words (Mark 13:11), and yes we are spared His wrath of course! But not with a pre trib rapture. Prayerfully study and believe the Bible over your pre trib preacher. The Lord's in control, we're His kids, and we're going to kick dragon ass! The pre trib rapture doctrine uses "redefinition" of words, supposition, and conjecture; don't be deceived. Satan used scripture to tempt Jesus in the garden; we are called to be wiser than the serpent. Don't be afraid 2 Timothy 1:7-8. Oh, and if the church isn't mentioned after Rev 3, who are the believers mentioned in Rev 6? And where is the raptured church mentioned in Rev 20:4? Can you give me just one definitive scripture proving the pre trib rapture without redefinition, supposition, or conjecture? Because I can give you dozens debunking it.
SEER TRIBE OF SIMEON RESTRAINER DEPARTS BEFORE THE ANTI-CHRIST CAN APPEAR. BREAD OF LIFE IS WHOM OUR RESTRAINER IS. ISAIAH 26:9 REGRETTABLY MOST PEOPLE ONLY LEARN ABOUT RIGHTEOUNESS IN JUDGEMENT TIME
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Brother Robert I am so thankful that you have taken the time to put this together for our edification!!! Absolutely brilliant work dear brother. I, too, am tired and so so ready to meet our dear Savior Jesus face to face. Oh what a glorious day it will be. I do believe that all true believers are feeling a strong sense that He is about to come for us. Blessings to you. I pray that you remain strong 💪 for a few more days.. don’t let the enemy steal your crown 👑!!! Big hugs 🫂 and much love to you my Christian brother in Jesus Christ. 🎉
Thank you, brother.
The enemy is in for a surprise………they thought they got away with it………they only cut themselves off from his grace and mercy.,………..the song……..from billie eilish comes to mind…….you should see me in a crown……….soon……soon…………she is oh so hungry
God bless you brother!! I love your channel so much! Your presentations are anointed ✝️ Maranatha & see you in the clouds 🎺💃🌈
Wow so much thanks!
I am tired to,brother in Christ. Blessings
AWESOME Brother Robert, very powerful & positive Signs you have found Sir. I desperately hope u are right. I wappened to be born on the Cusp of Capricorn/ Aquarius so it is very interesting to me, I’m definitely feeling the dying side, but can’t wait to jump up like the Dolphins Fish, what a Beautiful Picture , thank you so much. 🩵🙏💍🎉🌟 See you when we are all Healed to perfect Health in our Perfect Home. Amen 🙏
Merci pour tes vidéos. Que Dieu te bénisse, toi et ta femme. God bless us all.
Moi aussi je suis épuisée et chaque jour je prie Viens, Seigneur Jésus!
I hope it's very soon. Almost home. Jésus nous soutient. We will make it! 🙏❤
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@@WatchwomanforChrist82 🙏❤
I love you for never giving up. I'll bet the enemy is using the looking glass technology, cern, AI, and whatever else they can to figure out the date. I had a moment of clarity the other day about why all these dates have been correct despite the fact that we're still here. But, then my usual fog brain returned and that epiphany faded. There is something about time being rolled up like a scroll, concurrent timelines with different scenarios, designed to keep Satan in the dark. It's been on the tip of my brain for at least a couple of years, but I can't seem to grasp it. We'll find out soon enough. I'm telling you this for encouragement. You have not been wrong about any of it. It pleases Abba to see his children working so diligently to solve the puzzle he has set before us. Stay strong family. I love you all.
Maranatha King of all Glory, Maranatha!! Titus 2:13👆 Genesis 49:9&10, Revelation 5:5
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Thank you brother ❤❤ ❤
Rapture soon we are all want to meet our saviour Lord Jesus Christ
We love Him because He loved us first ❤❤❤
Before I even watch the video, I believe that the next new moon is the time for all born again believers to go home and that is my final answer. And since the end of the seven-year tribulation is the last day of 2031 and the 1,000 year millennial starts at the beginning of 2,032, and for the timeline to fit we have to leave by the end of January 2,025
Shalom 🙏🏻🕊️
I pray for an immediate rapture!
Oh Lord, how much longer must we endure this fallen and sinful world and our fallen sinful flesh suits?
Come for us in haste, our Lord!
But all praise and glory to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ who justifies, redeems, sanctifies, seals and saves us forever through His FINISHED work at the cross! Hallelujah! 🙌🏼♥️🩸✝️💯🆙
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She is coming,..,……and she is huuuuuungry
What did Jesus say not my will but the Father will must be done.
Praying for it to happen meaning also wishing death on others. It is satanic and our bible tells us not to Even think about it or worry about it. Not Even jesus knows the hour and he always had the answer
You were once part of it
Mon cher frère en Jésus, je sais que tu es au bout du roulot. Dieu le sait aussi! Tu n'es pas seul! Dommage que tu demeures si loin de notre assemblée en Estrie. As-tu une assemblée chrétienne avec qui tu peux partager et prier les uns pour les autres dans ton coin? Une buche loin du feu vient qu'à s'éteindre. En tout cas, je prie pour toi et ta femme.
Pour les dates de surveillance, je regarde plusieurs vidéos chaque jour, et il y a encore des dates très intéressantes si janvier passe.
Cela va jusqu'à la fête des trompettes de 2025. Mais nous espérons tous que ce soit avant! Je sais une chose par contre, nous ne sommes pas éprouvés au-delà de nos forces malgré ce qu'on vie quotidiennement. Le Seigneur l'a dit et il a promi d'être avec nous jusqu'à la fin du monde, il ne te quittera jamais. Il est la vérité, il ne ment jamais. Chaque jour, des tas de croyants sont excessivement malades, ou ils ont tout perdu, mais Dieu est au contrôle et il leur donne la force de continuer à chaque jour qui passe. Plusieurs pensent qu'ils ne pourront pas continuer longtemps, mais ils sont toujours là car Dieu veille sur eux et donne la force pour se rendre jusqu'à la ligne d'arrivée.
Continue ta course mon frère, Jésus est à côté de toi, il te dit de continuer en regardant toujours à lui. La ligne d'arrivée est proche! Tu seras si heureux d'avoir tenu jusqu'au bout! Que le Seigneur fasse briller sa face sur toi et qu'il te bénisse!
Merci!
@@carolecote331 What Beautiful words of Encouragement Carole, I believe this message floats over to all who need its message, I know I did, so thank you from all of us who are dragging our feet as we are worn out and dying. Yes Jesus told me yesterday, to Trust Him, he Has it all in His Capable hands, and I Believe Him, and Trust in Him. Amen! ✋🏻🙏🩷
“And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow 🌈 (7, colors ~ 7, angles finding middle upon face) round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.”
74th verse
Jesus = 74
74, degrees = 1.29, radians
1/29
Revelation 12:9
Year of snake Satan cast out
Strongs G226, to teach truth
2:26 AM. Central
Revelation 2:26
2 Thessalonians 2:6
Revelation 22:6
“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” Value of verse in Greek
10260
102.6, degrees
10:26 AM. Jerusalem
Value of Matthew 25:6, in Greek 8140
814, minutes left
Just going by the future dates that we have available and the numbers like 1260 days, it looks like we could have a solid timeframe.
If meteor Apophis happens to be wormwood trumpet 3, which it looks like it could be because its the only meteor in the timeframe that's also coming closer to the earth than many of our satellites that orbit, even 10x closer than the moon with no idea what will happen with our gravitational pull, especially when the north and south magnetic poles are shifting.
But it's set to come close in April 2029, so 3.5 years(7 seals) and 0.5-1 year(1-2 trumpets) earlier, 4-4.5 years prior would put the beginning of the tribulation between November 2024 and April 2025. Of course the rapture even before that.
Even Israel's 80th birthday(Jacob's trouble) at the middle of the tribulation also points to the same timeframe, between now and April 2025 for start of trib.
With all other signs added, it's looking very promising.
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Times up……sorry
When was the 7th seal open?
Act1:11🎺🎺🎺🎺
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USA eagel ????
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Nah its THE EAGLE…….warhammer
You cannot and no one else can calculate the rupture. BIBLE SAYS EVEN JESUS DONT KNOW THE HOUR..
We are told not to worry about it, so dont. While we live we are supposed to spread the word and be good to others. I hope you will become happy, we all decerve happyness but sadly happyness is not something we are promised by God. We are told that people will ahte us and persecute us for beliving in God. If your life is hard you should be happy, you are living Right
Only if God is a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@Noonesgift
Also a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Rapture will fulfill the next Jewish Feast to be fulfilled. The Feast of trumpets this year September 23 or 24 2025
The rapture of the bride does not need to be on a feast day we can go anytime however the tribulation saints may go on trumpets or before
ALL FEAST DAYS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED:
If not there is no need for Israel to accept Christ, their sins will be forgiven on the unfulfilled feast day
Yom Kippur
Christ said HE CAME TO FULFILLED THE LAW - Matthew 5:17
libra 1 - is always feast of trumpets, the last day. the dead rise on the last day.
libra one to libra 23, then scorpio 1.
the three festivals of the lord last 23 days.
I hope for rapture in july 2025
Wrong
The rapture doctrine is unbiblical fiction.
Matthew 24:21-31 provides a very clear timeline.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Note also that day and the coming of Christ is invariably singular in scripture.
Revelation 10:6-7 identifies the last trump as the seventh trumpet. This passage even says it's the mystery as in 1 Corinthians 15:51.
John 6:39-54 places the resurrection of 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 at the last day which also aligns with Revelation 10:6.
1 Thessalonians 3:3-4
John 16:33
Luke 17:22-24
John 17:15
Hebrews 9:28; Jesus comes back a second time, not a third time.
Revelation 21:1-10; The bride is the city of Jerusalem.
Luke 9:23; if you don't take up your cross and follow Him, you cannot be His disciple. This doesn't sound like a pretribulation rapture.
Revelation 14:1; It is actually the 144,000 who returns with Christ at the second coming, not a "raptured church." Also, wrath is poured out in verse 8 of that chapter, hardly before the tribulation.
Remember Noah returned to the earth, Lot never left and the Children of Israel were in Egypt the entire time during the plagues. This renders Old Testament typology completely moot.
He tells the church at Smyrna to be faithful unto death, so I don't think you can use Revelation 3:10.
The rapture doctrine was made up by John Darby in the 1830s.
1 Thess 1:10
"..waiting for Jesus to deliver us from the wrath to come"
1 Thess 5:9
"For we are not appointed to wrath, but to obtain salvation.."
God's wrath begins on the first seal, He uses the AC just as He uses Nebuchadnezzar and Magog.
1 Thess 4 rapture uses pronouns "WE and YOU"=Day
1 Thess 5 Day of the Lord uses "THEY and THEM"= Night
"Comfort each other with these words". If people think that they have to endure the Day of the Lord, they're not going to get much comfort from those words.
2 Thess 1:7
Jesus bringing angels for war. Day of the Lord
2 Thess 2:1
"Concerning the coming of our Lord(Day of the Lord) and our gathering together unto Him(rapture). Two events.
"Don't be troubled as though the day of Christ(of the Lord) had come"
2:3
"For that Day(of the Lord) will not come unless THE apostasia comes FIRST, and the man of sin is revealed."
Gathering together unto Him= THE apostasia/THE departure.
THE falling away doesn't exist,
AN apostasy yes, but there is no event called THE falling away or the apostasy.
There is an event specified as THE departure, Paul just referred to it by clarifying what he means by "our gathering together unto Him".
THE departure he's referring to is in his first letter, 1 Thess 4 the departure of the church, the rapture.
If apostasia means falling away then Paul didn't clarify what he meant by our gathering together unto Him for the rest of the letter, causing confusion and not comfort like intended for not explaining what THE apostasy is, after he just spent the last three chapters talking about just two specific events, the rapture and the day of the Lord.
Paul doesn't talk about A falling away for the first time until the future letter to Timothy, so Thessalonica would have no idea what he's talking about by vaguely referencing an event that he calls THE apostasia, unless he's talking about the departure from the letter that he just wrote to them and clarifying what he meant two lines earlier.
I'm trying brother, in all honesty it doesn't matter what we believe as long as total faith is in Jesus for Atonement of sins.
I'm just happy that you're sealed with the Holy Spirit, doctrine will figure itself out with a humble heart.
God bless you
Proclaim a fast unto the Lord, ask him to show you the pretribulation rapture, have faith in his promise, one cannot please the Lord without faith.
@williamharkness3460 Faith doesn't change scripture.
@Mediocre_JT
I'm guessing you didn't read the scriptures I posted.
1. The Day of the Lord, the Day of Christ and "that day" are all the same event. Note that in 2 Thessalonians 2:1, he mentioned the Day of the Lord first and then the gathering. If it had been the other way, you might have a point. Seee that in Matthew 24:21-31, it is the same order as 2 Thessalonians 2:1. The Day of the Lord can be found in detail in Joel 2. Note also that there is no rapture event mentioned in Matthew 24 prior to verse 21. There are only warnings of persecution and false prophets.
2. The falling away, Strongs 646 is departure from the faith, not the earth. I don't care how many times JD Farag repeats it. You can also look apostasia up in the Greek dictionary. It says nothing about getting snatched from the earth. Paul would not have had to explain apostasia to a first century crowd.
3. Why would believers need comfort if they are to be taken out before the tribulation? "We who are alive and remain..." from exactly what?
4. According to Revelation 14:10, God's wrath is Hell. So unless you are planning to go there, I wouldn't worry about the wrath.
I would suggest reading the rest of my post.
@ no but prayer and fasting will help you understand scripture and then you will gain faith. Obviously you lack understanding. By saying the rapture of the bride of Christ is unbiblical and fiction you are grossly lacking in knowledge and understanding.
We must measure the pre trib "theory" against scripture, right? 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 and 1 Thess 4:16-17 are obviously the same event, and it takes place at the "last" trump (1 Cor 15:52). What happens at the last trump? Jesus returns. The 2nd coming and our gathering to Him ARE the same event; there's no pre trib rapture in scripture. How can we testify against the anti christ and be caught up at the same time? What good are the "elect" if we're not here to testify? It makes zero sense. The answers are in there, please seek and find them. I'm convinced, as I've studied the "pre trib rapture theory" for over 40 years (and I bought into it) that it's a satanic deception.... teaching that Christ shows up for His church before the anti christ gets here, when scripture teaches the complete opposite.... be careful please because scripture teaches that the anti christ shows up first, looking just like Christ, doing miracles to deceive the elect, and that he will deceive people with peace and prosperity; 2 Thess 2:3-4 and Daniel 8:24-25. Pre trib believers are vulnerable to this lie. He will not show up persecuting believers, that's happening now. And why wouldn't Jesus mention the pre trip rapture to His beloved apostles when they asked Him about the time of His coming and the end of the age in Matt 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13? In fact, He said the complete opposite! That we should prepare to testify! Pre trib preachas say this scripture doesn't pertain to the "church", that the "church" is not going to be here, but they can't prove it with scripture, and that's ridiculous when you think about it; that Christ's warnings don't pertain to us, the church?! Read also John 6:39,40,44,54... he will raise us up at the "last" day.... that word is "last".. .the last day... no pre trib. Matt 24:13 and Mark 13:13 "... those who "endure" until the "end" shall be saved. That word "endure" is Greek word # 5278 and the definition is; to tarry behind, to stay behind, to remain, not recede or flee.... check it out. So the pre trib doctrine teaches "don't be left behind", when Jesus teaches that only those who are left behind will be saved. This should concern all those believing pre trib theory. Don't worry, the Lord will give you the words (Mark 13:11), and yes we are spared His wrath of course! But not with a pre trib rapture. Prayerfully study and believe the Bible over your pre trib preacher. The Lord's in control, we're His kids, and we're going to kick dragon ass! The pre trib rapture doctrine uses "redefinition" of words, supposition, and conjecture; don't be deceived. Satan used scripture to tempt Jesus in the garden; we are called to be wiser than the serpent. Don't be afraid 2 Timothy 1:7-8. Oh, and if the church isn't mentioned after Rev 3, who are the believers mentioned in Rev 6? And where is the raptured church mentioned in Rev 20:4? Can you give me just one definitive scripture proving the pre trib rapture without redefinition, supposition, or conjecture? Because I can give you dozens debunking it.
SEER TRIBE OF SIMEON
RESTRAINER DEPARTS BEFORE THE ANTI-CHRIST CAN APPEAR.
BREAD OF LIFE IS WHOM OUR RESTRAINER IS.
ISAIAH 26:9 REGRETTABLY MOST PEOPLE ONLY LEARN ABOUT RIGHTEOUNESS IN JUDGEMENT TIME
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