1940s vs MODERN (WW2+ vs Top Tier) - What If Both Fought - WAR THUNDER

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
  • #warthunder #tanks #warthundergameplay #helicopter #jets
    Today we put 1940s tanks and planes against Modern tanks and planes while outnumbered to see how well they can do against each other in War Thunder. How well can 1940s tech do against modern tech? You might be surprised but let's find out.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 173

  • @ehmul1510
    @ehmul1510 3 місяці тому +232

    modern ground with 1940s air vs 1940s ground with modern air incl helis

    • @M1A2C.
      @M1A2C. 3 місяці тому +12

      that would go hard asf

    • @bonehead6942
      @bonehead6942 2 місяці тому +2

      1940s ground easy win

    • @M1A2C.
      @M1A2C. 2 місяці тому +1

      @@bonehead6942 doubt it tbh, the Pantsir S1 would carry and can keep the skies clear for the modern ground, the 1940s air won't be super useful but the MBTs will be able to make up for that defecit.

    • @PAllen74
      @PAllen74 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@M1A2C. Even the pantsir has 0 chance against a spaded top tier jet w/ a good pilot.

    • @M1A2C.
      @M1A2C. 2 місяці тому +1

      @@PAllen74 bro that's just not true, sure you can evade one Pantsir if you're skilled enough but you're not avoiding half a dozen of them.

  • @hans1253
    @hans1253 3 місяці тому +64

    The balls on the guys who were bringing rank 1 tanks man absolute chads🗿

  • @shocknaw
    @shocknaw 3 місяці тому +92

    They saw me on the field and bombed me every damn round 😭😭😭

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  3 місяці тому +11

      Haha I saw that

    • @LeroxYT
      @LeroxYT 3 місяці тому +7

      They knew you were the main Boss

    • @RhgCug
      @RhgCug 2 місяці тому +2

      You have to do, cold war vs modern day.​@@ThunderWithMuffin

    • @GufGgg
      @GufGgg 2 місяці тому +1

      You have to do cold war vs modern ​@@ThunderWithMuffin

    • @JdiduEjejj
      @JdiduEjejj 2 місяці тому +1

      You have to do 1960s and 1990s vs modern technology.​@@ThunderWithMuffin

  • @Fnmadelonzo._
    @Fnmadelonzo._ 3 місяці тому +37

    Light tanks are the biggest threat to the modern tanks, a lot of my buddies are top tier tanks and I’m still in 7.0, when I play with them, I use the M18. (6.0 BR, 76MM APHECBC with 180MM of penetration, top speed of 50MPH) I was able to drop a nuke in 11.7 BR in realistic battles just by flanking to the sides and shooting the modern main battle tanks that are double my BR in their side armor. In top tier, armor is second, speed is first, so if you use their logic against them with faster tanks, you should be able to kill a few just by catching them of guard with your speed.

    • @M1A2C.
      @M1A2C. 3 місяці тому +1

      this and goblin mode HE overpressure like the Sturmpanzer works well against modern vehicles

    • @tankenjoyer9175
      @tankenjoyer9175 2 місяці тому

      i think any kind of artillery is op against modern.

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 3 місяці тому +51

    Truly the most chaotic. WW2 vehicles and aircraft always bring in alot of chaos.

  • @arthurbousquet6838
    @arthurbousquet6838 3 місяці тому +39

    Hey, Ostwind II gameplay here ! It was really fun, with all of the chaos going around xD
    The first game was borderline impossible to play as an AA, we couldn't see the jets at all, so we got absolutely bombed to hell ; the next ones were better, but there was so many, going so fast that it was very difficult to predict their path and from where they would appear, which forced a more passive gameplay.
    Thank you Muffin for organizing theses events !

    • @No_brains1
      @No_brains1 3 місяці тому

      Hello I have a question how do I participate in these battles?

    • @Awesomeduck-rq1gd
      @Awesomeduck-rq1gd 2 місяці тому

      you killed me like two times in my KA-52 XD

    • @nikolaideianov5092
      @nikolaideianov5092 2 місяці тому

      ​@@No_brains1
      You probably need to be in his discord if he has a descord server

  • @Gearedfilm57
    @Gearedfilm57 3 місяці тому +17

    Just remember that a majority of the outcome is highly dependent on the skill of the players. And not the vehicle they brought

    • @squashiejoshie200000
      @squashiejoshie200000 2 місяці тому +1

      Less true in this matchup. Consider someone who only brings light tanks, recon vehicles, and jets on the modern side vs someone who just uses MBTs. Assuming they are MBTs like leopard 2, Abrams, Challenger 2, or T80-U, they would be almost unkillable from the front for the WW2 players, while the player in light tanks and recon vehicles could be blown out like candles. Toss in that even with the best jet player possible, they only have so many bombs before they need to land and rearm and the rest of the team still has to deal with many tanks per person. A ratio that's increased with each player using a jet, so if the mode is multiple objective based, the modern players simply get spread too thin. And when you have a thinly spread team with a couple of people in lightly armored vehicles and a couple more in jets, suddenly the heavier tanks have to kill almost 8 for each of them.
      Remember, there's plenty of scenes of a heavily armored MBT holding the line against multiple tanks and getting many kills, and almost none of a light vehicle doing the same.

  • @warbirds2300
    @warbirds2300 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey i am going to buy a top tier but using only golden Egels and from these four country’s Russia Germany usa and Britain wich top tier do you think i would like i want one that’s good for amor fire power and good speed

  • @lill_hamster
    @lill_hamster 3 місяці тому +7

    ikv 103 is from 1950 or 1960

    • @artemisthehunter8360
      @artemisthehunter8360 2 місяці тому +5

      There's also a Ratel 20 and PT-76 at 0:57, which are 1973 and 1951 respectively

  • @aks3l897
    @aks3l897 3 місяці тому +172

    you will never know why this comment has 0 likes.....

  • @Polkano97
    @Polkano97 3 місяці тому +9

    The fact that I want to be part of this so bad but am a low level player that plays URSS and hasn't even reached the t34 yet😂

    • @shocknaw
      @shocknaw 3 місяці тому +2

      You can if you join the discord

    • @Polkano97
      @Polkano97 3 місяці тому

      @@shocknaw is it okay though because I'm extremely low level ?

    • @Polkano97
      @Polkano97 3 місяці тому

      @@shocknaw anyway how do I join ?

    • @shocknaw
      @shocknaw 3 місяці тому

      @@Polkano97 yeah, it’s fine

    • @shocknaw
      @shocknaw 3 місяці тому

      @@Polkano97 the link in the description of the vid

  • @benjamencollier1777
    @benjamencollier1777 3 місяці тому +1

    I would have grabbed the T-54(1949)
    STILL COUNTS

  • @Bruh_Taiwan
    @Bruh_Taiwan 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm the 50th viewer

  • @unaveragewarthunderplayer
    @unaveragewarthunderplayer 3 місяці тому +2

    Hey, muffin for some reason the link to the discord doesnt work.
    Could you help me with joining the discord?

  • @Thewayofgrass35
    @Thewayofgrass35 3 місяці тому +3

    Could you make an air battle with cockpit view only?

  • @artemisthehunter8360
    @artemisthehunter8360 2 місяці тому +2

    0:57 why tf is there a Ratel 20 and PT76 PT is 1950-60s, and ratel is 1970s

  • @masterhasashi.
    @masterhasashi. 3 місяці тому +3

    I wonder if we're going to see the Churchill Petard VS Sturmtiger video as well

  • @darkofmusic8801
    @darkofmusic8801 3 місяці тому +7

    FINALLY A NEW MUFFIN VID!!!

  • @darkstormww7479
    @darkstormww7479 3 місяці тому +4

    I mean, WWII guys shoulda brought T54s, they started in 1947 and theres a 1949 version too (1951 would get you kicked)

    • @artemisthehunter8360
      @artemisthehunter8360 2 місяці тому +1

      Doesn't stop warrioroftheants at 0:57 from bringing the PT-76, which is also 1951

    • @henrik4124
      @henrik4124 2 місяці тому

      1947 is after ww2?

    • @artemisthehunter8360
      @artemisthehunter8360 2 місяці тому

      @@henrik4124 it says 1940’s tanks, not ww2

    • @tankenjoyer9175
      @tankenjoyer9175 2 місяці тому

      that should be cold war

    • @jonaslavicka2411
      @jonaslavicka2411 2 місяці тому

      in the video you also see a BTR-ZD which started production in the 70s

  • @iskanderbaert2173
    @iskanderbaert2173 Місяць тому +2

    Jozef Stalin took revenge the first second

  • @Kron1cK9
    @Kron1cK9 3 місяці тому +1

    It could just be me but I am pretty sure modern Russian T-80 and T-90 turret armor is impenetrable especially with old tank guns.

  • @darkstormww7479
    @darkstormww7479 3 місяці тому +1

    ngl the modern guys prolly ran out of ammo before dying once, and would nearly never miss and would always pen

  • @jackcoughbendover434
    @jackcoughbendover434 3 місяці тому +1

    I wonder why modern MBT utilize ESS more, since they have thermal they could've just looked through the smoke making it significantly more difficult for ww2 tanks to get them. During the night match who ever had the Panther 2 would have had such a bigger advantage then the rest of the WW2 tanks since it comes with night vision, even though its not very good it's still a lot better then not having it. In the match at Factory the WW2 side would've had a bigger gap in victory if they all didn't just charge to A point but spread out the forces more between points, around the last bit of the match I'm sure they realized this. It's kind of ironic to be talking about kicking people who don't use WW2 tanks when there was a literal G6 a 1980s artillery piece rolling around while you were staying that and there were more instances of non ww2 tanks like the concept 3 that killed you which is also another vehicle from the 80s.

  • @cerealenjoyer3000
    @cerealenjoyer3000 2 місяці тому +1

    This whole video was so dramatic and cinematic, I love these types of war thunder videos. I also believe that the modern tanks had the upper hand in more ways than intended, with them having access to nightvision while the ww2 team didnt

  • @TheOwlWatches
    @TheOwlWatches 3 місяці тому +3

    I just watched a movie!

  • @LZ_1945
    @LZ_1945 3 місяці тому +1

    Bro if I was that F-16C player I would’ve brought amraams and cooked

  • @RedVRCC
    @RedVRCC День тому

    Idea: Battle of the broken IFVs
    20 PUMA vs 20 2S38
    Variants:
    If 2S38s are too strong:
    Make them spike pumas
    If pumas are too strong: Add in/replace all 2S38 with BMP-2M

  • @shack3490
    @shack3490 3 місяці тому +1

    Video idea, players verse eachother in low tier bombers using only their gunners to take each other down. Similar to a naval battle.

  • @Longshot-nm2mx
    @Longshot-nm2mx 3 місяці тому +1

    Ww2 would win every game if they had Snaillover on their team.

  • @kriskay5020
    @kriskay5020 3 місяці тому +3

    YAY another video from the Muffin

  • @biggycheese_ben
    @biggycheese_ben 3 місяці тому +1

    hello thunder muffin man can i be unbanned about a year ago i tried to join the discord server but i was underage. now i am of age to join. I have dmed you on discord. Thanks

  • @ChristianSolanoP
    @ChristianSolanoP 3 місяці тому +2

    New vid
    This moment is what i call happiness

  • @cybo1113
    @cybo1113 3 місяці тому +1

    It looks like fun to be in one of these vids i might try join

  • @johngaming0.0
    @johngaming0.0 3 місяці тому +2

    i am Jozef_stalin_81 ( the aardvark and f4u-4b )

  • @warbitz5200
    @warbitz5200 3 місяці тому +3

    Post more often please

  • @wtdoober
    @wtdoober 3 місяці тому +1

    Why was there a guy in the 1.3 Ro-go 😭

  • @michalkaminski4619
    @michalkaminski4619 3 місяці тому +2

    i was the concept 3 that killed you near the end :)

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  3 місяці тому

      Well done:)

    • @artemisthehunter8360
      @artemisthehunter8360 2 місяці тому +1

      Congrats. You cheated. Concept 3 was a project between 1976 and 1979. Was not around in the 1940s. still surprised at how many people cheated and got away with it.

    • @michalkaminski4619
      @michalkaminski4619 2 місяці тому

      @@artemisthehunter8360 oops didn't know ngl

  • @LettuceGayming
    @LettuceGayming 3 місяці тому

    Why did everyone bring heavily armored vehicles? Its not standing up to modern MBT rounds, only the tutel or maus could, imo they should have gone with lightly armored vehicles with good guns, maybe a few SPGs for flavor, but mostly things like the breda 501

  • @allenliu8820
    @allenliu8820 2 місяці тому

    we need a redo because now America gets access to m908 which is essentially a sap round
    a fucking sap round with 300mm of penetration which will essentially one shot every single ww2 tank

  • @IANF126
    @IANF126 2 місяці тому

    i'd be curious to see if arcade significantly changes the performance. the top tier stuff does not care where it shoots and has things like NVD/thermals to try to find stuff. once you add hit markers and lead indicators, i think spaaing becomes easier and the lower tiered things now know what to try to shoot at and what to avoid.

  • @bruhx1250
    @bruhx1250 3 місяці тому +2

    Episode 13 of ww2 when?

  • @CharlesOwens-gg2ic
    @CharlesOwens-gg2ic Місяць тому +1

    not the l3 walking his maus😭

  • @WarHundred
    @WarHundred 3 місяці тому +4

    Finally he upload

  • @Fork_in_toaster
    @Fork_in_toaster 3 місяці тому +1

    Babe wake up Thunder With Muffin Uploaded

  • @Alastorius510
    @Alastorius510 Місяць тому

    Patience is required in a match like this. So what I would do is turn off my tanks engine after finding a spot and waiting for the modern tanks to come to me.

  • @albe501
    @albe501 2 місяці тому

    Need full arty vs modern tank, (type 99, AUF1, G6, sthurmtiger, etc etc)

  • @lb0178
    @lb0178 2 місяці тому

    if The T30 got to fight and was ironed out and made good it would decimate a tank with just its HE let alone the AP AP would take the front plate wiht it

  • @lolxdani9996
    @lolxdani9996 3 місяці тому

    M22's, the old Puma's and biplanes sneak attacking the shlt out of the mbt's would have done it

  • @EUDEL_BOBMAN
    @EUDEL_BOBMAN Місяць тому +1

    damnnnn!!! this is so intense!!

  • @user-ot3dg5ki7q
    @user-ot3dg5ki7q 2 місяці тому

    I have question...
    WHY TF DID U STOP MAKING WOTB VIDS

  • @bahadirmukan
    @bahadirmukan 2 місяці тому

    God, you guys should bring some Tiger 105mm and panther 2...

  • @AlbertoMariaCassano
    @AlbertoMariaCassano 3 місяці тому +1

    HI im a fan of germans in1940-1945

  • @darkstormww7479
    @darkstormww7479 3 місяці тому

    I think japan would have the best MBT's for this with their 4s reload

  • @haskink7194
    @haskink7194 2 місяці тому

    I think like 3-4 2s38 might just rush right or left edge of map. If they would be in discord to coordinate their moves that will become the strong strategy i think

  • @TazGaming141
    @TazGaming141 Місяць тому

    0:54 those explosions look sick asf during night🔥

  • @lucasbrito7391
    @lucasbrito7391 3 місяці тому

    remake the video of high-level anti-aircraft against WWII planes

  • @huuanfighterVN
    @huuanfighterVN 3 місяці тому

    Ww2 air players have a challenge: try to survive 10s after air spawn, those jets hunt the 1940 air down so fast, i couldn’t even get out of the spawn area

  • @KOS762
    @KOS762 2 місяці тому

    I really can't tell if your going from enemy to friendly or what is going on. are you switching to other friendly deaths or enemy? And then there is no indication of what tank your showing atm. Hard to tell who is who. I think it was a great idea, but for someone who don't play this game much, I was really lost.

    • @cerealenjoyer3000
      @cerealenjoyer3000 2 місяці тому +1

      If it helps with dealing with the confusion for this video, you can tell which side he switches to by looking at the minimap. Ww2 team is on the north side and modern team is on the south. But I do agree with the constant switching inbetween makes it a bit harder to follow especially with it being pitch black

  • @cheesesniper473
    @cheesesniper473 3 місяці тому +1

    worried that you gave up on the channel. glad to see ya back.

  • @srkruger189
    @srkruger189 Місяць тому

    Ww2 vehicles having a fight chance just highlightes how map design in this game is made to undermine tanks performance.

  • @BelugaTheFirst
    @BelugaTheFirst 2 місяці тому

    how to be apart of these events? (is there an discord? if yes whats its name)

  • @germangamingvideos6069
    @germangamingvideos6069 Місяць тому

    Is there a version of this where people saying fuck isnt censored?

  • @AlfredoN.
    @AlfredoN. 2 місяці тому +1

    1:59 i got im 😁👍

  • @Chipey69
    @Chipey69 3 місяці тому

    Who remembers when he played blitz and his name was blitz with muffins😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @BETTERDarkENG
    @BETTERDarkENG 3 місяці тому

    Just imagine if the modern air just used f-111s with 3000 pound bombs

  • @psychoticannoyance
    @psychoticannoyance 2 місяці тому

    how do you get night battles with no flares i couldnt figure it out

  • @JohnSmith13334
    @JohnSmith13334 2 місяці тому

    Well at the scale of my uptiers it pretty much is like this atm. Stuck in a Panther getting destroyed

  • @stranger2642
    @stranger2642 2 місяці тому

    just dont include bradley and its possible for ww2 to win

  • @mehman9249
    @mehman9249 2 місяці тому

    Damn it’s been a while since I’ve been on this channel and OMG He’s upped the editing to GOD-MODE

  • @AxelEverkrans-smith
    @AxelEverkrans-smith 3 місяці тому +1

    This video needs more likes and views

  • @THE_YF23
    @THE_YF23 3 місяці тому

    yooooo thats me in the first day battle as the Christian II :))))) i had best flank!!!

  • @Mikaelvafflus-ux9uf
    @Mikaelvafflus-ux9uf 3 місяці тому +1

    New vid nice ']

  • @skipslash7367
    @skipslash7367 2 місяці тому

    why are you backing off when the guy's breech is out

  • @DaSteeJ07
    @DaSteeJ07 2 місяці тому

    Abrams survivability is hilariously weak

  • @GameDynastyOriginal
    @GameDynastyOriginal 3 місяці тому +2

    1m gang❤
    👇

  • @tutel7862
    @tutel7862 3 місяці тому

    How do you turn the artillery flares off in custom night battles?

  • @tankenjoyer9175
    @tankenjoyer9175 2 місяці тому

    why dont you make WW2 Vs Cold war?

  • @allanmcculloughjr9561
    @allanmcculloughjr9561 3 місяці тому

    M22 would have won every round of this

  • @Ciasiab-san
    @Ciasiab-san 2 місяці тому

    me being 5km away with 8 AGM65s

  • @JonasBayer-x7s
    @JonasBayer-x7s 3 місяці тому

    bro really said ww2 was an epic time 💀💀

  • @_GODSFIGHTER
    @_GODSFIGHTER 3 місяці тому +1

    Good to have you back

  • @Ford-w2y
    @Ford-w2y 3 місяці тому

    How do we join the discord. It keeps saying link expired.

  • @MinecraftGaming271YT
    @MinecraftGaming271YT 2 місяці тому

    Democracy vs comunism video plis

  • @Prime_Sisyphus
    @Prime_Sisyphus 2 місяці тому

    Youll never guess that this comment has 0 replies

  • @therealeditor1343
    @therealeditor1343 2 місяці тому

    20:34 how du you activate that scope?

  • @DreadMaps.
    @DreadMaps. 2 місяці тому

    why not just no air

  • @jeffkardosjr.3825
    @jeffkardosjr.3825 2 місяці тому

    Biplanes VS helicopters.

  • @TheBabyCaleb
    @TheBabyCaleb 3 місяці тому

    Blue berry or chocolate chip?

  • @thatguys_idea
    @thatguys_idea 3 місяці тому

    After a month, he’s back.

  • @bodiebaylis1218
    @bodiebaylis1218 3 місяці тому

    I would love to be in a t 95

  • @deancinar4384
    @deancinar4384 3 місяці тому

    Top tier against m22 armada

  • @Grandbucket-cn5rz
    @Grandbucket-cn5rz Місяць тому

    How can the crossair glow

  • @Personontheinternet4598
    @Personontheinternet4598 2 місяці тому

    When is the next ww2 vid?

  • @M42_duster
    @M42_duster 2 місяці тому

    10:41 erm what the sigma 💀

  • @小粒籽
    @小粒籽 Місяць тому

    WW2 team need some pe-8

  • @ABSOLUTE_SOLVER1
    @ABSOLUTE_SOLVER1 2 місяці тому

    20:33 How do I open it?

  • @duailksatria6585
    @duailksatria6585 3 місяці тому

    7.7 vs 11.7 Tank

  • @flix-vz7lk
    @flix-vz7lk 3 місяці тому

    Can someone tell me his discord if he has one

  • @kamykyt-p7v
    @kamykyt-p7v 3 місяці тому

    🇵🇱🇵🇱winer

  • @antoninkozdera9559
    @antoninkozdera9559 Місяць тому

    10:43 erm waht a sigma