20:23 right here Lawrence hits the nail on the head. And maybe insignificant for this whole conversation, but honestly hes right - because i do this with my own children, snd we spend some time discovering the answer to their question together. This has led to their love of learninf, and their curiosity expanding. They always want to know "why?" and they come up with a lot of great hypothesis and we search together to tey and come up with answers. Irs really a great way to help kids learn to love to learn!
That’s beautiful and I believe more people need to do this and be able to do this. First, fantastic what you’re doing with your kids, learning together is amazing. But furthermore, there’s such honesty and beauty in saying “great question. I don’t know - let’s find out together”. I think an issue we are currently encountering in politics (although it’s politics so it’s probably the nature of the beast) but no one knows how to find information - so many claims that some “news corporations” make are easily falsifiable but it’s overwhelmingly hard to see past that when you star with certain biases/prejudices and these enterprises feed on them and exacerbate matters.
This guy, Hakeem, is one of those rare breeds and amazing characters! Lawrence's work on finding subjects to talk and bringing the right people to talk about those subjects is stunning as well. However, he still has to work A LOT on NOT INTERRUPTING left and right and to organize his thoughts!😂 I guess he's full of dark matter! 😂
46:37 that’s an incredibly insightful point, regarding the amount of science communicators with southern accents or lack thereof. You don’t necessarily associate the two states of being as compatible but these individuals must exist. Such an interesting and thought provoking discussion!
great conversation thanks for this. enjoyed it immensely. Gee, I never thought about it before but yeah, LK is a city slicker. :) HK's body language is wonderfully engaging and I hope it motivates his students to embrace the practice of learning.
As a non-academic, albeit one with scientific training, I find it fascinating to listen to these two brilliant people on the 'inside' of that world. I love your openness to intellectual ideas and awareness of ideas that are not directly related to acadaemia. I admit I would not have held that view of Lawrence at some points during those distant religious debates, but even Lawrence now admits he was probably debating a different question.
It took me several sittings to get through this, but is was fascinating and engaging. It truly is sad how academia is becoming so politically correct and cowardly, bowing to cancel culture at any opportunity. It is going to come around to bite us
Hakeem makes a very important observation (and something I have long believed) which is that bullies will just go for the low hanging fruit. Many of these incidences of casual racism that people get so upset about are not even fundamentally racist in nature. It's just a case of a bully focusing on the thing that will get the biggest reaction.
..I love the way Hakeem's eyes open wide as saucers when you two are talking about "touchy, eureka moment" subject matter...It's literally an "eye opening" visual effects, experience. His story of having a snowwball's chance in H-E-double L hockey sticks of achieving what he's achieved and being who he is, NOW, in his field of study is truly remarkable. What a great story.
1:44:02 to the statement he made about his mother earlier, no his 10 year old son is not smarter than him! This became highly technical out of nowhere and I couldn’t be happier.
Not at all that I would come to think of Hakeem Oluseyi in relation to the tragic works of other's unfortunate choices in relation to this, but there's a reminder about relating to what Lawrence Krauss once said about people who as soon as they get sorted out how mathematical expressions relates to and makes way for connecting with images of reality as they serve to explain physics, then they're likely to want to make use of newly found connections by switching to studies related to finances. I seem to remember that one of his expressions concerning this in particular was relating to Norway, somehow, which is probably why it now brought about memories of a talented boxer, once a friend, who happened very early to possess the obviously rare ability enableing one to a larger extent to "go the other way", so to sprak, while explaining to others, or attempting to do so, physical reactions by involving mathematical equations. My point after the facts has of cause been, while being known no doubt as "hopelessly boring and insignificant by far too often beginning to involve socially insignificant matters with matters of significans" among in the end surely bothering means amongst the identifying habits by people, even if some or more truth amounts in that a talented boxer's destiny's not much fitting as excuse on my own part. Daring to make use of a certainly sensed relation, therefore, environments of various kinds that serves to establish ranges of pathways for unfortunate reactions and risks associated with damages and "the great art of boxing" betweens is today representing more in itself an example of a splendid method of distancing oneself then of introducing a theme of interest, what ever trends may say about development of the place for naturally conditioned talents amongst the no doubt rarer. For what ever it's worth, I tend to hope not to experience arguments in favour of sports associated with head injuries from guys like Krauss and Oluseyi, while what ever count of exceptions might be about, memories are to an uncombinable amount parts of earlier experienced facts already, and Amen, among scientists having studied this relentlessly over a long period of time, is very far from alone in confirming findings either what physical, pshycological, or otherwise mentally inflicting factors involves.
Also, Lawrence, PLEASE STOP saying RACE does not matter when those who are experiencing it point it out. The more you spoke which was a lot, the more you focused on trying to undermine those who have or do bring it up. Try LISTENING instead of criticizing.
Laurence interrupts Hakeem constantly and elaborates on his own experiences and beliefs, I wish he could have listened a bit more and let his interview partner talk.
I feel like it was a pretty equal back and forth conversation - though I do agree Hakeem should have more time talking instead of Lawrence talking for him..though he seems very excited, more of a "fan girl" type moment vs. being rude. All in all I love this entire thing!
GUEST REQUEST I would love to see an interview with Amber Straughn. Very interested in her small town background. From small town in Arkansas to James Webb space telescope. Amazing
This was really good. Talking of "racism" I went to school for four years, as a Scottish kid in Gibraltar, surrounded with Spanish kids who would ask things like "Do you know what TV is?" "You live in caves and hit people over the head with clubs don't you?" "You can't be Catholic, we are Catholic, you're not!" I thought it was funny to be honest, and they were all scared of a clubbing so win win!
Good point to make. I think Americans see racism in literal black and white and forget it exists everywhere. I think Hakeem was heading toward making that point too when he spoke of his international travels but he got off track there. They both made excellent points that racism is basically just ignorance and stems from judgment by grouping as opposed to individual judgment. Judgment itself is something we really all as a world need to get over, though we have some as nature that is impossible to get over.
It's his style, he isn't Terry Wogan. You probably won't know who Terry Wogan was, Ok he isn't Parkinson. You probably don't know who he is either. How about, he isn't Jay Leno. The waffle is part of the "podcast charm". Think of it that way, and stop complaining. Life is nicer that way.
Ethnic based professional society is not unique to NSBP. There is the International Congress of Chinese Mathematicians catered to Chinese diaspora mathematicians. The Chinese Institute of Engineers based in US is another example. I won't be surprised there are other ethnic based professional societies in the US.
Question, if I might, Hakeem when did you see your first satellite? That's was a big deal, and the Space Station cutting across the sky, the Hale-Bopp comet in the sky for a few night's in 1995 was cool.
Lawrence, You need to ask leading questions and then allow the expert (your guest) to tell us more. You spend too much time telling him what was in his book.
@@fleetingfacet Oh, I didn't expect to find you giving the advice not to serve one jury on a regular basis 😁 And I had so hoped that it was exclusively for me.
Re the end of the discussion: I feel sorry for little Billy the white kid from Mississippi. What hope does he have. I prefer full inclusivity and dislike divisive-sounding groups. That apart it was a great conversation and a wonderful guest. 🙂
Did you all know that your bank transaction have 128 bit encryption? That's 2^128 to 1 chance of guessing. Yet you say that evolution can create a ribosome with 4^5000 (5000 nucleotides), which is like 2^10,000 (10,000 bit encryption). It doesn't sound like atheists can do math. If you could, you would find this very anomalous.
@@MMAoracle X suppresses everyone now, if you pay or not you will be limited how much you can browse per day, which is stupid af. Imagine youtube doing that.. "you already watched 1 hour today, pay to be able to watch 4 hours"... hahaha All Elon does is fail. Just wait... it will all crash and burn
Hakeem, I'll be getting your book. During the past 2 hours, I feel like your words woke me up from a long sleep. Thank you sir
20:23 right here Lawrence hits the nail on the head. And maybe insignificant for this whole conversation, but honestly hes right - because i do this with my own children, snd we spend some time discovering the answer to their question together. This has led to their love of learninf, and their curiosity expanding. They always want to know "why?" and they come up with a lot of great hypothesis and we search together to tey and come up with answers. Irs really a great way to help kids learn to love to learn!
That’s beautiful and I believe more people need to do this and be able to do this. First, fantastic what you’re doing with your kids, learning together is amazing. But furthermore, there’s such honesty and beauty in saying “great question. I don’t know - let’s find out together”.
I think an issue we are currently encountering in politics (although it’s politics so it’s probably the nature of the beast) but no one knows how to find information - so many claims that some “news corporations” make are easily falsifiable but it’s overwhelmingly hard to see past that when you star with certain biases/prejudices and these enterprises feed on them and exacerbate matters.
This guy, Hakeem, is one of those rare breeds and amazing characters! Lawrence's work on finding subjects to talk and bringing the right people to talk about those subjects is stunning as well. However, he still has to work A LOT on NOT INTERRUPTING left and right and to organize his thoughts!😂 I guess he's full of dark matter! 😂
I thoroughly enjoyed this podcast. Thank you gentlemen for being a voice of reason. I look forward to the next one!
46:37 that’s an incredibly insightful point, regarding the amount of science communicators with southern accents or lack thereof. You don’t necessarily associate the two states of being as compatible but these individuals must exist.
Such an interesting and thought provoking discussion!
I read his book. Amazing story. Amazing man.
great conversation thanks for this. enjoyed it immensely. Gee, I never thought about it before but yeah, LK is a city slicker. :) HK's body language is wonderfully engaging and I hope it motivates his students to embrace the practice of learning.
Brilliant conversation as always thank you Lawrence Krauss we need to hear more about less known scientists
As a non-academic, albeit one with scientific training, I find it fascinating to listen to these two brilliant people on the 'inside' of that world. I love your openness to intellectual ideas and awareness of ideas that are not directly related to acadaemia. I admit I would not have held that view of Lawrence at some points during those distant religious debates, but even Lawrence now admits he was probably debating a different question.
It took me several sittings to get through this, but is was fascinating and engaging.
It truly is sad how academia is becoming so politically correct and cowardly, bowing to cancel culture at any opportunity. It is going to come around to bite us
Hakeem makes a very important observation (and something I have long believed) which is that bullies will just go for the low hanging fruit. Many of these incidences of casual racism that people get so upset about are not even fundamentally racist in nature. It's just a case of a bully focusing on the thing that will get the biggest reaction.
U Guys are really teachers.
My favorite person on Discovery Channel back in the days
Great episode. Great guest. I am a big fan of the podcast. Keep it up!
..I love the way Hakeem's eyes open wide as saucers when you two are talking about "touchy, eureka moment" subject matter...It's literally an "eye opening" visual effects, experience. His story of having a snowwball's chance in H-E-double L hockey sticks of achieving what he's achieved and being who he is, NOW, in his field of study is truly remarkable. What a great story.
Excellent talk! Some of my favourite faces from How The Universe Works!😁
1:44:02 to the statement he made about his mother earlier, no his 10 year old son is not smarter than him!
This became highly technical out of nowhere and I couldn’t be happier.
Great conversation.
Another excellent interview.
Not at all that I would come to think of Hakeem Oluseyi in relation to the tragic works of other's unfortunate choices in relation to this, but there's a reminder about relating to what Lawrence Krauss once said about people who as soon as they get sorted out how mathematical expressions relates to and makes way for connecting with images of reality as they serve to explain physics, then they're likely to want to make use of newly found connections by switching to studies related to finances. I seem to remember that one of his expressions concerning this in particular was relating to Norway, somehow, which is probably why it now brought about memories of a talented boxer, once a friend, who happened very early to possess the obviously rare ability enableing one to a larger extent to "go the other way", so to sprak, while explaining to others, or attempting to do so, physical reactions by involving mathematical equations. My point after the facts has of cause been, while being known no doubt as "hopelessly boring and insignificant by far too often beginning to involve socially insignificant matters with matters of significans" among in the end surely bothering means amongst the identifying habits by people, even if some or more truth amounts in that a talented boxer's destiny's not much fitting as excuse on my own part. Daring to make use of a certainly sensed relation, therefore, environments of various kinds that serves to establish ranges of pathways for unfortunate reactions and risks associated with damages and "the great art of boxing" betweens is today representing more in itself an example of a splendid method of distancing oneself then of introducing a theme of interest, what ever trends may say about development of the place for naturally conditioned talents amongst the no doubt rarer. For what ever it's worth, I tend to hope not to experience arguments in favour of sports associated with head injuries from guys like Krauss and Oluseyi, while what ever count of exceptions might be about, memories are to an uncombinable amount parts of earlier experienced facts already, and Amen, among scientists having studied this relentlessly over a long period of time, is very far from alone in confirming findings either what physical, pshycological, or otherwise mentally inflicting factors involves.
Impressive man.
Also, Lawrence, PLEASE STOP saying RACE does not matter when those who are experiencing it point it out. The more you spoke which was a lot, the more you focused on trying to undermine those who have or do bring it up. Try LISTENING instead of criticizing.
Laurence interrupts Hakeem constantly and elaborates on his own experiences and beliefs, I wish he could have listened a bit more and let his interview partner talk.
True. He may have learned what institutional racism is
Apparently Hakeem didn’t say gate keeper enough. Seems Krouse didn’t want to hear it existed.
@@ArkansasAtheist73😮😮
I feel like it was a pretty equal back and forth conversation - though I do agree Hakeem should have more time talking instead of Lawrence talking for him..though he seems very excited, more of a "fan girl" type moment vs. being rude. All in all I love this entire thing!
@@ArkansasAtheist73 100%
I thought I was the only one feeling like that.
GUEST REQUEST
I would love to see an interview with Amber Straughn. Very interested in her small town background. From small town in Arkansas to James Webb space telescope. Amazing
So good!
This was really good.
Talking of "racism" I went to school for four years, as a Scottish kid in Gibraltar, surrounded with Spanish kids who would ask things like
"Do you know what TV is?"
"You live in caves and hit people over the head with clubs don't you?"
"You can't be Catholic, we are Catholic, you're not!"
I thought it was funny to be honest, and they were all scared of a clubbing so win win!
yeah but the scots are tough, and they like to mix it up so.... Regards from Canada :)
Good point to make. I think Americans see racism in literal black and white and forget it exists everywhere. I think Hakeem was heading toward making that point too when he spoke of his international travels but he got off track there. They both made excellent points that racism is basically just ignorance and stems from judgment by grouping as opposed to individual judgment. Judgment itself is something we really all as a world need to get over, though we have some as nature that is impossible to get over.
2 of my Favorite Scientist!!! I've watched this 3 times already. Lol
It would be more interesting if the guest talked more. Lawrence you don’t need to confirm everything the guest says. Just listen and let him talk..
Amen
It's his style, he isn't Terry Wogan.
You probably won't know who Terry Wogan was, Ok he isn't Parkinson.
You probably don't know who he is either.
How about, he isn't Jay Leno.
The waffle is part of the "podcast charm". Think of it that way, and stop complaining.
Life is nicer that way.
I like this channel because these are conversations between two intelligent people, not just one-sided interviews.
@@JamesCairney sir, yes, sir
@@Joos77215 quite right too!
How many words were spoken by the guest vs. host?
Nice, we have a "How the Universe Works" reunion.
Ethnic based professional society is not unique to NSBP. There is the International Congress of Chinese Mathematicians catered to Chinese diaspora mathematicians. The Chinese Institute of Engineers based in US is another example. I won't be surprised there are other ethnic based professional societies in the US.
Question, if I might, Hakeem when did you see your first satellite? That's was a big deal, and the Space Station cutting across the sky, the Hale-Bopp comet in the sky for a few night's in 1995 was cool.
Did his mother want him to be a lawyer ?
This guy is a bit of a game changer
Lawrence, You need to ask leading questions and then allow the expert (your guest) to tell us more. You spend too much time telling him what was in his book.
@@fleetingfacet Oh, I didn't expect to find you giving the advice not to serve one jury on a regular basis 😁 And I had so hoped that it was exclusively for me.
Which galaxy is in the 1st second please?
it's called "NGC 1672"
@@ddpxl thanks!
Yip Yip and YIP
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Re the end of the discussion: I feel sorry for little Billy the white kid from Mississippi. What hope does he have. I prefer full inclusivity and dislike divisive-sounding groups. That apart it was a great conversation and a wonderful guest. 🙂
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The interruption is too much I have given up.
Lawrence looks so baked. Haha
Did you all know that your bank transaction have 128 bit encryption? That's 2^128 to 1 chance of guessing. Yet you say that evolution can create a ribosome with 4^5000 (5000 nucleotides), which is like 2^10,000 (10,000 bit encryption). It doesn't sound like atheists can do math. If you could, you would find this very anomalous.
You should do this on X
That’s the future
Lmao, what why?@@MMAoracle
@@CROMWELLentertainment a platform that doesn't suppress free speech will always be more exciting.
Also, Elon doesn't fail.
@@MMAoracle X suppresses everyone now, if you pay or not you will be limited how much you can browse per day, which is stupid af. Imagine youtube doing that.. "you already watched 1 hour today, pay to be able to watch 4 hours"... hahaha
All Elon does is fail. Just wait... it will all crash and burn
@@MMAoracleYou’re funny.
But half of the minority group you speak of voted for a reality TV president in 2020. That would be a majority in my book.
Hakeem Muata Oluseyi-----(born James Edward Plummer Jr.) dubious, trite theories. Not impressed. Need real science not entertainment for ratings.
yea u dun creadit some cottin bullsheet but , NA ME NA SANE YA FIMI YA FIMI !!!