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  • @briansredd
    @briansredd  Рік тому +1

    Here's the Q&A video for this one ua-cam.com/video/zmiocC4bP0k/v-deo.html

  • @seanscam
    @seanscam Рік тому +11

    Nice video as usual Brian. The only thing I do differently is set the gains a little lower so that I can put the channel faders all the way up without going over zero dB. I just find it annoying to have to stop at 8.

    • @KillDeathRatioDJ
      @KillDeathRatioDJ 10 місяців тому +2

      Yea I agree as a house DJ I am not interested in stopping at 8, I just want to throw the fader all the way to 10. I also dont use the cross fader at all, strictly use the channel faders. I am about to receive my first Alto TS415 today so I am going to see how this method works out for me but seems like it will be nice to be able to set it and forget it. However I see his point, which may have been implied, if you are at 10 on the fader, then you cant get more volume unless you push the trim but then you are out of unity gain territory. Im going to have to play around with this for a bit.

  • @blairwilliams136
    @blairwilliams136 Рік тому +6

    Thank you for this, as a dj and sound tech I cannot tell you how many djs still don't know how to set gains properly.

    • @G4Nazarener
      @G4Nazarener 5 місяців тому +1

      Probably about 95 % don’t know about this or they gives a shit. It’s necessary to convince them how much they contribute to a brilliant and lively sound. Btw even the most tutorials on YT explain it wrongly.

    • @djmaxxsaint
      @djmaxxsaint 2 місяці тому

      That’ll be me. 😂

    • @maxpower259
      @maxpower259 2 місяці тому

      Yeah bud. that is why we are here. Were you born knowing it? No someone taught you.

  • @DJShadow1966
    @DJShadow1966 Рік тому +1

    Basic tutorial Brian, every DJ should know this, hats off fella ........ practice and enjoy!

  • @DJ-Toad-UK
    @DJ-Toad-UK Рік тому +1

    Great Recap, I learnt this from one of your older videos.
    It works, simple as that. Even with an external mixer from my Controller. That I set to 0dB on the Controller Channel and Master Out (adjusting if I need to).
    It scary how many people don't use this.

  • @heartsongdjs
    @heartsongdjs Рік тому +1

    Thanks Brian! Much appreciated!

  • @SeditiousLucidius
    @SeditiousLucidius 10 місяців тому +2

    My Xone:92 manual says to mix the channel peaks to +6 and keep the master output average at 0 with peaks higher.

    • @-Cybin
      @-Cybin Місяць тому

      thats how its done aon any mixer.... thats how its done correctly.

  • @llewellyn56
    @llewellyn56 Рік тому +1

    Thank you. Well explained. Great video

  • @G4Nazarener
    @G4Nazarener 5 місяців тому +1

    This is a valuable tutorial with one of the most important topics for DJ’s. I’ll send a link to some DJ’s who I know.

  • @MBrulla
    @MBrulla Рік тому +2

    A way I've explained it to new A2s is "Sound is the art of reduction". You don't want to add/increase to get the right volume - if you are then you're not maximizing your signal at each gain stage. This is a lesson MANY DJs should heed - you may save a lot of speakers (and ears) with your course.

  • @paulcuesta1974
    @paulcuesta1974 2 місяці тому

    LEGEND! Thank you mate! 💯🫶

  • @michaelmashup452
    @michaelmashup452 Рік тому +1

    Love this video, I learned this the hard way...

  • @rjpimprov
    @rjpimprov Рік тому +4

    Personally, with VDJ I use the Auto Gain function...works great to set the trim level automatically. With autoGain set to auto, it will lower or increase the gain of the track so that all the tracks you play have a similar volume when played, regardless of how loud it was recorded

    • @brandonsummers6360
      @brandonsummers6360 Рік тому

      I kinda like that too tbh. Some tracks that are older and converted from cassette to digital dont always line up great with digital only tracks. the definition difference between them leaves huge gaps for gain loss :(

    • @rjpimprov
      @rjpimprov Рік тому

      @@brandonsummers6360 It's one of the best features of using a digital controller imo

    • @djlopes_com
      @djlopes_com Рік тому

      Many DJs have bad sound sense & a must watch. Like @Brian Parker said VDJ users have “AutoGain” brilliant feature.

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому

      That's great for your pre-mixer output signal, but there are still hardware mixer settings that need to happen for proper gain structure

    • @rjpimprov
      @rjpimprov Рік тому

      @@briansredd Right..but if just using a controller you only have 4 "gains"...master pot, channel trim, fader level, then speaker volume level.

  • @nathanielpeterson8328
    @nathanielpeterson8328 Рік тому +1

    Nicely explained Brian

  • @lambruceco
    @lambruceco Рік тому

    Thanks for the video. We monitor distortion all the time using a very similar method. If the main volume isn’t all the way up on the mixer and there is still headroom on the speakers/amps, just turn it up because you have a clean sound already. Power amps should be at full volume if there are volume controls on a power amp. Correct me if I am wrong.

  • @C-Dub1906
    @C-Dub1906 Рік тому +1

    Thanks Brian

  • @shawnroberts6384
    @shawnroberts6384 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the video Brian, these are the tips and tricks nobody shares. I am a "self made" DJ, I never worked with other DJ's, I never learned some of these fundamentals. I wish I had, now with your tutorials talking about many of these tools of the trade, It only improves my skills. Thank you very much!
    Question, do you use an external mixer and if so are there any differing fundamentals? I use a controller and an external mixer, I've always turned my gain up and adjusted my mix volume out (backwards form what you just explained). Once I achieve the unity gain on my controller, do I just adjust the mixer volume to the desired SPL threshhold and continue making the adjustments on the controller?

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому +1

      I think it's all how you hook things up. I have my ideas, others have theirs. Ben Stowe recently did a show on external mic / band style mixers & said the proper way to run them would be DJ Mixer / Controller into "external" mixer into speakers. In MOST cases, for DJs, I disagree. None of us are audio engineers & most of our external mixers are of lower SQ than our DJ mixer/controllers. I say, if you are running an external mic mixer, run it thru the AUX of your main DJ mixer / controller. It's SO much easier to control stuff in that regard for most DJs. I've done a video on that, but I'll do another one soon.

  • @Nodadj
    @Nodadj Рік тому +1

    Great video..but on Pioneer Nexus 900 they have more Headroom, 0 db is the first Orange light, you can play perfectly at plus 3 or plus 6 max...with out distortion on both the Master and the channel faders...Allen and Heath yes stay at 0 DB on both channel faders and Master.

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому

      I hear this a lot & use all Pioneer mixers / controllers. Yes, your distortion is lower, BUT your master output dB still matters going to your speakers. I talk about this in the companion video I'll upload soon.

  • @Mikey5-O
    @Mikey5-O Рік тому +1

    @briansredd is it safe to say that you would replicate those steps on your external mixer as well assuming you have your controller connected to the external mixer out to the speakers?
    Thank you

  • @Soufside_Slim
    @Soufside_Slim Рік тому +1

    What about if you don't use the crossfader to switch songs? How do you stop distortion?

  • @JBellsCuedUp
    @JBellsCuedUp Рік тому +1

    Great video, Brian! I use an external mixer as well. My 1000SRT seems to have more punch when using an external. Maybe a video adding one more component to your setup? If not, maybe those commenting can add some tips. It seems like I'm always raising or lowering the volume on my controller but it sounds like I should be doing it in my external and leaving my controller knobs and sliders alone right?

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому +1

      I think it's all how you hook things up. I have my ideas, others have theirs. Ben Stowe recently did a show on external mic / band style mixers & said the proper way to run them would be DJ Mixer / Controller into "external" mixer into speakers. In MOST cases, for DJs, I disagree. None of us are audio engineers & most of our external mixers are of lower SQ than our DJ mixer/controllers. I say, if you are running an external mic mixer, run it thru the AUX of your main DJ mixer / controller. It's SO much easier to control stuff in that regard for most DJs. I've done a video on that, but I'll do another one soon.

    • @JBellsCuedUp
      @JBellsCuedUp Рік тому +1

      @@briansredd oh ok interesting. I run 1/4 TRS from speaker outputs of controller into a channel on my external. Then of course, speakers coming out of external. Seems to give me more head room. Especially for mics and other external devices for music like a IPAD

    • @JBellsCuedUp
      @JBellsCuedUp Рік тому +1

      @@briansredd but good point about us DJs not being audio engineers lol

  • @DAMOOSESQUADDJs
    @DAMOOSESQUADDJs Рік тому +1

    Thanks brother Thanks for the tip

  • @truestory2227
    @truestory2227 Рік тому

    Before I start to beat match or mix a new track I typically go to the loudest part of the track and check the sound levels like this.

  • @danielsotolcsw8751
    @danielsotolcsw8751 Місяць тому

    Thank you so so so so so much !!!!!

  • @MrDJMikieMike
    @MrDJMikieMike Рік тому +2

    Great Video!! One quick question if I’m coming out of my controller going into a sound board which levels should I more concerned over the controller or sound board?

    • @djgainsbond
      @djgainsbond Рік тому +2

      Great question

    • @rjpimprov
      @rjpimprov Рік тому +3

      Think of it as a chain...the chain starts with the output level coming out of your controller. This level should be at that 0db or so that brian alluded to. Then once it's sent to your mixer, now your mixer needs to decide how much it's going to send to your speakers and/or subs. Your mixer also has trim, which is where you start the mix out chain..set that to an appropriate non-peaking level, and then your fader level is how much will actually get sent to your speakers. I'd also suggest sending a different level with appropriate eq, using one of your aux outs or monitor outs, to your subs. That way you have separate control of your mains vs your subs. Your master volume level on your mixer will now be your mains master, and your aux/monitor pot will now be your subs volume level.

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому +1

      I think it's all how you hook things up. I have my ideas, others have theirs. Ben Stowe recently did a show on external mic / band style mixers & said the proper way to run them would be DJ Mixer / Controller into "external" mixer into speakers. In MOST cases, for DJs, I disagree. None of us are audio engineers & most of our external mixers are of lower SQ than our DJ mixer/controllers. I say, if you are running an external mic mixer, run it thru the AUX of your main DJ mixer / controller. It's SO much easier to control stuff in that regard for most DJs. I've done a video on that, but I'll do another one soon.

    • @MrDJMikieMike
      @MrDJMikieMike Рік тому

      @@briansredd thank you @briansredd . I’ve always have run out from my controller out to say channels 5/6 then my XLR out on my mixer to my speakers or if I’m using my sub I run them into the sub.

    • @rjpimprov
      @rjpimprov Рік тому +1

      @@briansredd I have done that for years, but got too frustrated with dj controller mic preamps, and the lack of eq they provide in order to get higher gain before feedback. I also like to eq the subs to tighten them up and put a compressor on so I can hit them a little harder when needed. Personally I use a qu-pac, but that’s pretty advanced for most.

  • @paulie_b-007
    @paulie_b-007 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you

  • @stevehowarth8470
    @stevehowarth8470 2 місяці тому

    What about a home setup? I have followed your instructions but it's extremely loud. Do I turn the master output down on my controller, or is it best to lower the gain on my monitors? When I'm recording a set.

  • @djgrandauto8541
    @djgrandauto8541 Рік тому +1

    I have to ask if your a cutting Dj and use the line fader with a sharp curve wouldn’t it be hard to stay at 8. I know not all mixers are equal.

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому +1

      Yeah it can be. I'm talking about achieving the best SQ here, and if that's something you are interested in while running an open Xfader for more than a few bars, I'd make that compensation with the line faders. Maybe try 7 instead of 8 when in the mix. That should get you close.

  • @chromemusic4401
    @chromemusic4401 Рік тому +3

    I usually look for smoke or burning smell 😂then I know we’re rockin

    • @laniroli3714
      @laniroli3714 Рік тому

      😂 at this point, party is finish. go home all. 😅

  • @Bryanegreenlee
    @Bryanegreenlee Рік тому +2

    Man, I have followed you for awhile now and I want to say thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience in the DJ industry. Based on your posts, my wife and I have improved our DJ business tremendously while enjoying the process along the way. Question… you demonstrated how to set unity gain on the mixer and speaker (hardware), is there anything you suggest regarding the software side to insure proper levels/gains into the mixer? I know this may sound basic but we use Serato and I get a little confused with the track gain, the master output, and auto gain settings in the software. Hopefully, my question make sense. Thank you in advance and keep on rockin! ✊🏾👍🏾

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching Bryan :) If you MIDI your controller / mixer to your software & kill those "Auto" settings, your software will mimic what your mixer does. I'm not a Serato user, but use VDJ & it's similar in that regard. For me, it's less confusing when you turn the "Auto" settings off

    • @AT-wl9yq
      @AT-wl9yq Рік тому +1

      There are a couple of things you need to be aware of. The most important is you need to know the difference between a volume control and a gain control. When you're having issues and don't know this, you'll end up trying all different combinations, and if you finally get it right, it will be by chance.
      The first thing you need to do is go through the complete signal path of all of your equipment (computer/software, controller, mixer, amp (or the amp in a powered speaker), and any other pieces in the chain, and for every control that adjusts "volume" or sound level, determine if it is a gain control or a volume control. And for your volume controls, determine if the volume adjustment takes place in the digital or analog domain.
      Once you have all that, this is what you need to know. Gain controls are always on the input of any given component, and volume controls are always on the output of a component. Only gain can distort the signal, volume controls can't. So, for example, if you are having a distortion/gain type of issue, you will not fix it with a volume control. That's why you need to know what each one is, and none of the volume controls can be at fault, so you've already eliminated some potential problems. At this point, you should be able to set your system up like he shows you in the video. Once you have your gain structure set, use your volume controls however you see fit because you can't overdrive an input and distort the signal.
      Just for clarity, I'll give you another example because a lot people seem to have an issue when I tell them you can't distort the signal with a volume control. This is how you can prove it, so you don't have to take anyone's word for it. Find someone who has a guitar amp. A guitar amp is probably the only type of amp that you would ever want to make distort on purpose. On the front of the amp, you usually have a volume and gain know right next to each other. When the amp making a clean sound, turn up the volume as much as you want, and the signal won't distort. Then try turning up the gain instead. What you hear is exactly what you don't want to do to your DJ setup.
      You mention auto gain in Serato. That feature isn't typically used to set your gain structure. Its used to keep all of your songs at a consistent volume. I'm sure you've noticed that not all of your tracks have a consistent loudness to them. Some may be louder that others, and some may be softer. Auto gain is meant to correct that issue specifically. That said, if you have your system set up like in the video, its very conservative. So, if you have a track what's lower in volume, use the trim. His settings will give you the ability to use gain properly.
      One last thing is digital volume controls. Above, I asked you to find out which volume controls are digital. Depending on they type of files you play, you may not have to worry about what I'm going to tell you. It mainly applies if you are using MP-3's, or any other type of lossy compression. When you play digital files, the only way you can get maximum resolution is to have all of your digital volume controls set to max. For example, if you are using an MP3 at 320kbps, the only way you'll actually get the full 320kbps is if all of your volume controls are at full volume. If you lower the volume using a channel fader, its not 320 anymore. The 320 keeps going down as you lower the volume. You basically deal with it by using high quality files. If you're using something like a 192kbps file, there's a good chance there will be audible differenced in sound quality. You shouldn't have any issues using the best MP3 quality (320kbps), and if you are using lossless files, there's nothing to worry about. You won't hear any differences on DJ gear. DJ's that use analog mixers don't have this problem. If you're using a controllers/PC's setup, you should be aware of this. Its called bit stripping.

  • @JamesMesidor
    @JamesMesidor Рік тому +1

    Thanks

  • @danetroy420
    @danetroy420 Місяць тому

    Man in dj world line fader goes all the way up

  • @djs5889
    @djs5889 6 місяців тому

    Hi, Thank you. But what if I play with software (Serato) and a DJ controller? Autogain - yes or no. Thank you for your help

  • @discoverdevlin2289
    @discoverdevlin2289 Рік тому +1

    Nice video-if someone asks to turn it up, do I turn up mixer or speakers? Thanks and be well!

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому +2

      You can do small temporary loudness gains by turning the speakers up a bit, maybe +2 dB, but you may experience a more steady clipping & eventually overheat your powered speaker's amp & cause thermal shut down, distortion, etc. Your best bet, if you feel you constantly need more SPL, is to buy a more aggressive speaker system.

    • @discoverdevlin2289
      @discoverdevlin2289 Рік тому

      @@briansredd thanks!

  • @leaveempty5320
    @leaveempty5320 Рік тому +1

    Is there a difference between the faders at 8 and trimmed to 0db and faders at 10 with lower trim to 0db?

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому

      Yes. At 10, you'll send a hotter input signal to your master & won't achieve unity gain

  • @laniroli3714
    @laniroli3714 Рік тому

    I was setting Gain at red peak & master at 12" oclock. amplifier was distorting & i couldn't understand why. 😅

  • @DeejayNasx
    @DeejayNasx 10 місяців тому

    How do one keep the trim settings saved for each track?

  • @RunTFC
    @RunTFC Рік тому +1

    ...and when you're using an audio mixer to plug your controller into?

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому +1

      That's another video. I made one a while back on how to run an external mic mixer, but I suppose another one is in order

    • @djphatb
      @djphatb Рік тому +1

      Always turn your gain to 0 unless ( check the manual) on digital audio mixers. A lot of those you want to stay at -12. You will notice that the green lights wil change to Yello or amber at -12 in those cases. In general stick to green in all cases.

  • @djfernandovon
    @djfernandovon Рік тому

    Hey Brian, Thanks for that. Question, I'm worried in the middle of the night I won't be controlling levels with the fader midway. I leave them all the way up, mix using the crossfader and master around 12 o'clock. Never goes into red but normally 1st orange. I have vdj set to -3db to avoid distortion too. What do you think? Is it the same or I've been been it wrong? Thanks a million

  • @ScojoDak
    @ScojoDak Рік тому +1

    We all know that some tracks vary in volume (even at 320 kpbs). Do you adjust the appropriate channel gain to obtain zero DB?

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому +1

      Yes you do! Because all audio tracks are not created equal, the Trim / Gain gets adjusted with every new track

    • @DJ-Coma
      @DJ-Coma Рік тому +2

      Mp3 bitrate really has nothing to do with volume levels.

  • @superdad8274
    @superdad8274 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for info. I am used to keeping fader all the way up. Can i do that by lowering the gain on each channel?

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому

      Yeah you can do it that way, but you won't get the best SQ that way. Your input signal will be weaker with that method. The way I'm demonstrating it will give you the best SQ :)

    • @superdad8274
      @superdad8274 Рік тому +1

      @@briansredd thank you again. It’s not easy keeping the fader the same volume while djing. Its easy when you know your fader is up as far as it may go.

    • @superdad8274
      @superdad8274 Рік тому +1

      @@briansredd hi. I am sorry you mentioned that my input signal will be weaker if I have the faders up higher.? I don’t understand. Doesnt sound get louder if faders are up to the max?

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому

      @@superdad8274 Sure, you get more volume, but with a weaker input signal, which effects sound quality. Again, a 0 dB input signal is your cleanest, strongest signal before distortion. You could adjust your PFL line input trim, to, say something like -3 or -6 dB, crank your line fader to 10, and with your master set to 8, hit 0 dB on that master, but that's not "Unity Gain". You are just boosting a weaker input signal.

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому

      @@superdad8274 A trick we used in the old days was to take a piece of black electrical tape & lay it across "8" on the line faders, so we wouldn't go any higher than that. Kind of like training wheels until you got used to just going to 8. Some clubs used to actually install screws in the liner faders right above 8 so you couldn't crank beyond that. I strongly would warn against that :P It worked, though

  • @alexdjgonzo9410
    @alexdjgonzo9410 Рік тому

    Same setting for streamers???

  • @marcomontezuma1036
    @marcomontezuma1036 3 місяці тому

    TOP
    thanks

  • @djjudy3180
    @djjudy3180 Рік тому

    wonder if you gain the channel lower, then you can take fader at 10 ? nice work btw. !

    • @torkl-bln
      @torkl-bln 4 місяці тому

      I think it's so you have some headroom for quieter songs to be made louder.
      Thanks for this video, really well explained
      I actually just wanted to record a set, connected my djm250mk2 to my ssl2+ interface for the first time, downloaded mixbus and thought to myself, if I'm going to record high quality, then I'm going to do it properly.
      After a lot of trying (I then thought that the recording would only be best if it was completely without orange) I got a similar result, now just leave some headroom on the channel volume fader so that I don't touch the channel trim anymore.
      I've been doing that for a while, because 2 tracks at the same time without channel headroom get louder than 1 track and the high quality recording isn't perfect.

  • @-Cybin
    @-Cybin Місяць тому

    who stops his channel fader midway? And why have you no idea about dynamic range?

  • @ConnahJay
    @ConnahJay Рік тому +1

    Great !

  • @Prasen1729
    @Prasen1729 10 місяців тому

    Shouldn't the master be set at 0 ?

  • @DJDynablend
    @DJDynablend Рік тому

    Why DJ with your faders all night long? Your setting yourself up for failure what if you accidently knock the fader to 10 everyone will notice that mistake especially with your speakers and mixer gain set to zero DB. I would rather ride my individual trim level all night and have faders maxed out so I never have to worry about accidently knocking them up or trying to judge where they are sitting those numbers are tiny on the up faders.

    • @briansredd
      @briansredd  Рік тому

      You do it however you want. This is just how to achieve unity gain

  • @DanielleKingdjdinosaur
    @DanielleKingdjdinosaur Рік тому

    thanks