How to fly a Tiger Moth
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- The de Havilland DH 82 Tiger Moth was a 1930s biplane designed by de Havilland and operated by the Royal Air Force and others as a primary trainer. The Tiger Moth remained in service with the RAF until 1952 when many of the surplus aircraft entered civil operation. Many other nations used the Tiger Moth both in military and civil applications and the ubiquitous little trainer still is in great demand worldwide as a recreational aircraft.
Design and development
The Tiger Moth trainer prototype was derived from the de Havilland Gipsy Moth (DH 60). The main change to the DH Moth series was necessitated by an effort to improve access to the front cockpit since the training requirement specified that the front seat occupant had to be able to escape easily, even wearing a parachute. Access to the front cockpit of the Moth predecessors was restricted by the proximity of the aircraft's fuel tank directly above the front cockpit and the rear support struts for the upper wing. The solution adopted was to shift the upper wing forward but sweep the wings back to maintain the centre of lift. Other changes included a strengthened structure, fold-down doors on both sides of the cockpit and a revised exhaust. It was powered by a de Havilland Gipsy III 120 hp engine and first flew on 26 October 1931 with de Havilland Chief Test Pilot Hubert Broad at the controls.[4] One distinctive characteristic of the Tiger Moth design is its differential aileron control setup. The ailerons (on the lower wing only) on a Tiger Moth barely travel down at all on the wing on the outside of the turn, while the aileron on the inside travels a large amount upwards... this is one of the ways the problem of adverse yaw can be counteracted in an aircraft's control design.
From the outset, the Tiger Moth proved to be an ideal trainer, simple and cheap to own and maintain, although control movements required a positive and sure hand as there was a slowness to control inputs. Some instructors preferred these flight characteristics because of the effect of "weeding" out the inept student pilot
General characteristics
Crew: 2, student & instructor
Length: 23 ft 11 in (7.34 m)
Wingspan: 29 ft 4 in (8.94 m)
Height: 8 ft 9 in (2.68 m)
Wing area: 239 ft² (22.2 m²)
Empty weight: 1,115 lb (506 kg)
Loaded weight: 1,825 lb (828 kg)
Powerplant: 1× de Havilland Gipsy Major I inverted 4-cylinder inline , 130 hp (100 kW)
Performance
Maximum speed: 109 mph at 1,000 ft (175 km/h at 300 m)
Range: 302 miles (486 km)
Service ceiling: 13,600 ft (4,145 m)
Rate of climb: 673 ft/min (205 m/min)
Thanks again Bomberguy, that is C.W.A. Scott , he was my great uncle, Ive never seen this film before, so I'm very pleased to see it !! thanks!!
If poss could you tag it with C.W.A. Scott
I was born during the Battle of Britain. I have always felt that there are some people born to perform certain duties for their fellow men. Such were the men of the fighter command and bomber command of that era. I have also felt that I was born too late to take part but had I been there, I would have found my place with them. Being an in-between wars person, I have felt left out of things. Too young for WWII and Korea and too old for what has gone on since. I have nothing but respect for those who have preserved the freedom that I enjoy.
I'm surprised by all the negative comments! I fly a Boeing 777 for work, and own a Tiger Moth that I fly for fun. It is a delightful airplane: easy to fly, but difficult to fly well. A pilot would appreciate it's challenges. An "airplane driver" never would.
I'm ready to fly again. Last soloed in this type or aircraft was Aug. 1947. Had a great time WOW
wayne mantha So are you like, in your eighties?
Such a great little plane,I flew one last year out of Shoreham
Dad earned on these in 1942, and he seems to think they got something wrong. When he shows the operation of the throttle he pushes forward to close it and pulls back to open it. We think it's backwards, as any other aircraft we have experience with necessitates the opposite movement on a throttle. Like NORMANCOT1's father, mine went on to Sunderlands after getting his U.S. Navy wings at NAS Pensacola and flying Catalinas.
I was lucky enough to go up in a Tiger Moth in 2007. I can vouch for the controls being very sensitive. I took the stick and the slightest pressure had the aircraft changing course. I soon handed back to the pilot! The experience was terrific, starting off with great excitment and enthusiasm, until levelling out after take-off when I realized just how flimsy the thing was. This soon changed into enjoying the flight and the terrific views. I ended up wishing we could have stayed up longer.
I had a flight in a Tiger Moth earlier this year as can be seen on my UA-cam channel. The pilot even turned my world upside-down as he gave me two loops and one stall turn! I've also had two flights while stood on the top wing of a Boeing Stearman and one of those flights was aerobatic with two loops and two stall turns!
"and underneath a cross level, which helps you keep on an even keel" LOL classic stuff !
Thank you Mr Cholmondley-Warner for this informal yet informative moving picture show lol
In the late 70’s early 80’s I owned a DH 82-a. Loved her! Let hum of flying wires tell you airspeed was correct for landing.
Getting the "drops lightly onto the aerodrome" bit right is the tricky part. "Tiggers are very bouncy animals", and if you don't get lose flying speed and altitude simultaneously, it'll demonstrate the fact..
Yes I owned a DH82a in Australia for 5 years. Quite an interesting aircraft. Not to bad on 500yard agriculture strips.Great spinning aeroplane. mine had slat/slots on the top wing which one could control with a cheese cutter in the cockpit. Great for short field landings and many times one needs to de-ploy them in a tight steep turn!! Great spinning aeroplane the DH82a. Makes sure its not aft loaded.The odd one or to were fitted with the front cockpit fitted with a hopper and they worked well as a spray aircraft for crops.Getting into an Auster after tiger moth was orgasmic s!!! like steeping out of a VW into a BMW !!!!
I owned and worked a Tiger Moth. Cross wind 20kts you could handle in the Tiger. The Gypsie Major works best on new high quality car oil and you need a real good grade oil, as there are lots of times you need to do some flying at 2100 R.P.M.The airframe for it's age is pretty good. One needs to check Bell Cranks with some X ray oil to make sure your not developing cracks. Remember the metal in the Tiget Moth is NOT 4130. Wish it was. Worst catch of all is down wind cross winds, no brakes. The tail plane on the Tiger is proned to tail plane stalling at 15 kts. I like the slots and the cheese cutter handle in the cockpit. Being able to flick those slats open when things got tough with low airspeed. The Gypsie Majopr engine is a pretty reliable engine, even if you cruised the Tiger at 1950 rpm. Oil pressure and temp gauge essentional. 3 point landinds are the best for a
DH-82A. 1950 rpm cruise fine.Its vital to throw the oil out and puts some new automitive oils in. Some of these oils are amazing. I wouldn't part with the upper wing slats. They are a life saver when you have run out of airspeed.
great scott! its the famous winner of the 1934 MacRobertson Air Race!
My grandfather Flying Officer John M Darroch lost his life while flying a Tiger Moth on the 26th June 1934.
Another Tiger Moth was practising aerobatics when it lost height and flew into Granddads plane.
Three dead which included my grandfather whose plain crashed and burned with him in side the cockpit. One Flying Officer survived with parachute deployed and landing in a pond near Nibley in Gloucestershire. Rest in Peace Granddad X
"This concludes your ground school instruction. You will now get into your aeroplane and begin the flying segment. Good luck."
(Okay, maybe that was more WWI style instruction.) 8-)
No WWI would have been more like "This concludes your ground school instruction. You will now join the '20 Minuters'. Good luck!"
Definitely a Tiger Moth on the outside, but the instrument panel is labelled as a Moth Major, a slightly earlier Moth with a wooden fuselage and unstaggered wings. On the G- info website from the CAA 'ACSK is listed as a Tiger from new in 1934, so maybe the inside shots are of a different a/c or the panel was transplanted? Anorak off now, I just love these old films, keep up the good work!.
Oh! Thank you! I'm have understood now! Let's fly!
Great clip. Got to love the training movies.
youre old
Absolutely spiffing old bean! Thank you very much for... what's that new fangled word that starts with 'up'... oh, I cannot remember but thanks for this anyway!
This is flying, thanks!
belo video e maquina nos tambem temos na FAP força aerea portuguesa alguns exemplares. parabens
great machine!
You are so smart bomberguy. I am a plane fanatic like you. (imma guy, not a girl) and if you think I know nothing, I know the largest load ever carried by Boeing was about 1 million pounds. That's a lot of weight. It was carried by the 747-8 intercontinental.
@saxonflyer I'm not arguing with you but my dad served with the RCAF in WWII & he said these were a dream to fly - You had to really TRY to crash. Also, my uncle, a flight instructor with the RAF in WWII, says that if you spin a Moth, just get your hands & feet off the controls & she would fly herself out. I've heard other ex-RCAF pilots echo these observations, too. Maybe your Moths were lemons. Did you ever fly Buccaneers? They're a great plane.
Came here after reading Hornet Flight by Ken Follet :)
Great, now I can fly!
Thanks, now i can fly a f35 properlly now
The Tiger Moth was the first plane that the Victoria Flying Club used for training back in 1946.
Victoria, B.C.
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I just built a balsa rc of this so the info in this vid is useful XD
How amusing! I happen to be checked out on Tiger Moths and have flown many hours in them, buggers that they are to master, as well as various other types including F4 Phantoms - as I am ex-RAF, and ergo, anything but an 'ignoramus.' I regret that you seem proud to be a 'chav' however? My utter condolences! It would seem that there is some hope for you however, and I would urge you to keep up with your enthusiasm for aviation, as it were chaps in the clip that made the UK once great.
In my college days had the fortune to fly Tiger Moth. Here is to share the experience how the machine is flown.
Manjit
Rather...!
Thanks for posting :D
WOW... I AM NOW READY TO FLY A JET LINER!
koch Once you could handle a DH82, you could fly anything....so they say.
Chocks away, chaps! Jolly good!
Gee, once you've seen this you're pretty much ready to go!
Everything looks like a Tiger Moth except the Moth Major instrument panel.
Nobody else instructs flying better than the brits!
Tigermoth...the last real biplane...
jolly good saxonflyer....over and out
I say! - absolutely wizard! pip pip! and all that- eh what? jolly good!
Well, that was easy, wasn't it? Flying a plane achieved in three minutes.
Next week... "How to be a Gynaecologist !"
Mr Scott might not have understood your estuary accent, but would have been too polite to make silly comments about it.
2:06 "Oh, here we go..."
The Tiger Moth was an interesting aeroplane to fly. If you get caught up in the romance of flying a Tiger Moth you will die. The best attributes on the DH82A were the operational slots on the top wing. The slots saved ones bacon many times over.The Tiger was a good solid aircraft in a cross wind. One can handle 20kts if you know how to. The aircraft will spin like a top, should you want it to. If you dont lock the upper wing slots and spin it you need a prayer book.The Tiger is also workable in over load situations. Two in the front seat can be done and one can escape the enemy !!! The tiger is very much a STICK AND RUDDER Aircraft.Abuse this and your a dead man. I have had to fly the tiger in the past in applying conditions. ie., 40 kts of wind, thunderstorms, hail and being attacked by Eagles in Australian sky's.After 3000 hours in the tiger I moved onto an Auster. Got grey hair in 14 days !!.
That's not "How to start,,,,,", it's "Someone starts,,,,"
yes, but there allways be "new ol boys" like us to keep up traditions from whern planes were flew by men, not PC´s
1:10 - nobody noticed the throttle is backwards?
I believe that right up to the jet era the British convention was to have the throttle going in the opposite direction to the French and US (now universal) convention. Sorta like driving on the other side of the road or Imperial measures - they were damned if they were going to do things the same way as the French.
I think that’s the narrators error. The throttle works conventionally, back for closed, forward for open. The mixture (the knob below the throttle) is backwards, back for full rich.
Does anyone know if its possible to fold the wings on a Tiger moth similar to DH60 gipsy moth?? To store in in a shed i mean?
Very few were designed with folding wings. There is one at the de Havilland Museum displayed with its wings folded back. I've seen an old video of one here on UA-cam and the plane was being towed by a 1920's car on the road to the airfield! I had an aerobatic flight (two loops and one stall turn) in a DH87A Tiger Moth earlier this year which can be seen on my UA-cam channel. I've also flown while stood on the top wing of a 1944 Boeing Stearman twice! One of those flights involved aerobatic loops and stall turns too!
The folding mechanism is there, but because of the stagger you can't swing them back very far, so the short answer is no
learning how to pet a mosquito.
another 5 mins ,i will be flying bombers,gotta scramble bandits at 4 o clock chaps
hahaha that was funny
Jolly nive affected tone in the narrator's voice. Whatever happened to decent and wholesome British types such as he, I wonder? Alas, step aside for the ever-burgeoning "chav" who wouldn't know what a Tiger Moth was if he prop-swung it without the chocks and he came a cropper!