Damn. Now I want the 126 kit for my Chieftain. lol. I was planning to get the Lloyds tune while I'm in Sturgis.. and then I started thinking about doing the 585 Cams too. But now you're video is making me want the 126 kit. I better do more overtime... lol
Of course, 116 with 585cams 115-118 horsepower, the 121/126-131 all have 120 hp, to torque just increases bigger the bore kit. That’s why the 116, with a cam can keep up
Fish, I rode the 126, 116 with cams and a stock 116 from St Paul last Saturday. The 126 was my favorite, but that 116 with cams got down. We had 3 guys riding all 3. The 116 cams was keeping up with 126 on the road.
The thing we all do for science!!!!!! Very interesting to say the least!! I have heard that the 116 with cams was best bang for buck!! 🤷♂️ I guess I might have to get my butt back up there... for science!!
@@Ridingfish that's right. It was my first time on a Chieftain. I was actually surprised how well the stock 116 did. I mean, it's no 108, but it did well LOL.
He's a heavier rider but he is also on his bike and has his junk in the bags, where you are on a sale bike with nothing in the bags and weigh less as well. power to weight ratio, the 126 is certainly impressive.
Are you from Minnesota? I've always heard you mentioned in some other fellow UA-camrs videos on indian rides. Getting the 585 cams at the end of the month
I am from Minnesota!! They have a bike at St Paul with the 585 cams and I wish I would of had more time to feel the difference.. I heard best bang for buck might be cams.. 🤷♂️ as I have not played on both.. CONGRATULATIONS on your cams!!! Let me know what you think
12:00 I’m here for the 126 lol I have a 2017 scout that I purchased recently and I am hooked on the liquid cooled concept. Still checking out the air cooled options though 🦾🦾🦾
My Wife and I enjoy riding the backroads looking at the scenery, and sometimes I ride pretty slow. The Pursuit doesn't like slow. That is my humble opinion. I am still getting used to the Pursuit, and maybe I need to adjust my riding style, shift patterns, etc., when riding slowly 🐌 😅 The Chieftain was great for that riding style. We also ride on the HWY, State roads, etc., and it does great. Don't get me wrong, I love the Pursuit and could list many items I like.
I am not hating. I am older than you and will have to make decisions about safety someday not just my own but those around me. I will stay on two wheels as long as safe riding is possible. Maybe a wheelchair with a boom box and a recording of the Toce 2 into1 exhaust under full throttle.
Traded my roadmaster up there for challenger. 116 camed and every performance I could stick at it and still got beet by a 96 cubic inch harley and if you even tride to ride hard in a corner the suspension was so soft wanted to wable and try to kill me.
@tyler Laubenthal , so let's be clear. You are getting walked on your roadmaster but not your Challenger? Except a cammed and tuned M8.. those walk your Challenger???
@@Ridingfish Beautiful Bike...Like the old style Fairings on both SG and RG better....Both way out of my Price range....Was in Glendale HD trying to make a deal on new RK Special in Yellow....Even at MSRP price i didnt want to make those payments for 60mos.....There is something about owning your owning your older Bike free and clear....👍😎
@@Ridingfish Yes thats alot of money......For a Bike that your gonna ride hard....Cruisen down the Interstate at 80mph and more....Your gonna be hit with every bug and gravel known to Man.....Its gonna get scratched and dinged by them....20k is the Max i will pay for Bike...
With the riding I do I like the chieftain power plant but like the fixed fairing better. The challenger power plant is nice to have fun but not practical for my riding style
Is that the power out of a 126? Do you know what power the 131 gets? There’s no data anywhere. Heck while you’re at it, what’s a 111 with 585 cams give ya?
@@dnewman3402 as in the fairing? I agree, but look at the fairings on the current race bikes. If your talking motor, then oh different realize that. Thank you.
@@poppysadventures2020 ---> The Harley head design and the Indian Challenger head design makea a whole lot more TP and HP than the current 111 and 116-inch Indian engines.
Damn. Now I want the 126 kit for my Chieftain. lol. I was planning to get the Lloyds tune while I'm in Sturgis.. and then I started thinking about doing the 585 Cams too. But now you're video is making me want the 126 kit. I better do more overtime... lol
Of course, 116 with 585cams 115-118 horsepower, the 121/126-131 all have 120 hp, to torque just increases bigger the bore kit. That’s why the 116, with a cam can keep up
I just bought a 2020 Chieftain Elite and it's waiting for the 126 BBK.
It's at the Indian dealership (Loyds Garage) in Rogers,MN
Oh brother!! !you are going to be a happy camper!! That's a great color scheme and setup!! Send my love when you go pick it up!!
Fish, I rode the 126, 116 with cams and a stock 116 from St Paul last Saturday. The 126 was my favorite, but that 116 with cams got down. We had 3 guys riding all 3. The 116 cams was keeping up with 126 on the road.
The thing we all do for science!!!!!! Very interesting to say the least!! I have heard that the 116 with cams was best bang for buck!! 🤷♂️ I guess I might have to get my butt back up there... for science!!
@@Ridingfish that's right. It was my first time on a Chieftain. I was actually surprised how well the stock 116 did. I mean, it's no 108, but it did well LOL.
Those bikes are beautiful, I sold my street glide 2 years ago and have the fever again. I have been looking at the chieftain dark horse.
Go test ride one!!
Love to see ported heads with bigger valves on a Thunderstroke. See what it could really do.
He's a heavier rider but he is also on his bike and has his junk in the bags, where you are on a sale bike with nothing in the bags and weigh less as well. power to weight ratio, the 126 is certainly impressive.
Are you from Minnesota? I've always heard you mentioned in some other fellow UA-camrs videos on indian rides. Getting the 585 cams at the end of the month
I am from Minnesota!! They have a bike at St Paul with the 585 cams and I wish I would of had more time to feel the difference.. I heard best bang for buck might be cams.. 🤷♂️ as I have not played on both.. CONGRATULATIONS on your cams!!! Let me know what you think
I'm pretty sure my 17 Roadmaster had traction control and abs, just no synced front and rear brakes. Indian doesn't do brake sync at all so far
No traction control mate, but ABS, I have '18 RM, no traction control
Seems like that 131 was dragging that 126. It looks like you would have never caught up to him had he stayed in it. I'm just saying.
Thanks for sharing! #IndianVSharley
Challenger and Pursuit are more top-heavy true, they are a little like Victory was
Maybe, but compared to HD, they are much much better
@@Ridingfish of course, and also I am happy with my RM Classic
12:00 I’m here for the 126 lol
I have a 2017 scout that I purchased recently and I am hooked on the liquid cooled concept. Still checking out the air cooled options though 🦾🦾🦾
hell yea!! never take an option off the table!! just saying!! hahha
Dash looks like Johnny 5 lol
I love my Pursuit, but I also miss my Chieftain.
What do you miss about it.?
My Wife and I enjoy riding the backroads looking at the scenery, and sometimes I ride pretty slow. The Pursuit doesn't like slow. That is my humble opinion. I am still getting used to the Pursuit, and maybe I need to adjust my riding style, shift patterns, etc., when riding slowly 🐌 😅 The Chieftain was great for that riding style. We also ride on the HWY, State roads, etc., and it does great. Don't get me wrong, I love the Pursuit and could list many items I like.
Call Me crazy then....
😵💫
I am not hating. I am older than you and will have to make decisions about safety someday not just my own but those around me. I will stay on two wheels as long as safe riding is possible. Maybe a wheelchair with a boom box and a recording of the Toce 2 into1 exhaust under full throttle.
Need to get that 126 in a Super Chief or Sport Chief and i would be happy😅
I saw the other day they put a 131 in the chief!!!! Wow
I would love to have a Cheiftain.
good luck.. hope you get one soon
@@Ridingfish I have 23 Challenger, so I am good, I just want another.
Instead of a trike get a mini-van and take the windshield out.
Hahaha... im not hating on a person that wants to keep riding but for who knows why has to go to a trike... It very much could be me..
Why? Isn’t a 3 wheeler a motorcycle to you? Do you think a Goldwing is nothing more than a Honda Accord? If you do, your thinking is flawed.
@Donfleebie1 That doesn't matter to me. If someone can peddle a Schwin fast enough to's go
@Donfleebie1 What someone rides does not matter. If you can peddle a Schwin fast enough to keep up let's go. Just trying to keep humor alive.
Traded my roadmaster up there for challenger. 116 camed and every performance I could stick at it and still got beet by a 96 cubic inch harley and if you even tride to ride hard in a corner the suspension was so soft wanted to wable and try to kill me.
HahahHahahahahhahahahaha.
Yea, RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
Only people making suspension for the front is race teck far as I know and they only did one.
@tyler Laubenthal , so let's be clear. You are getting walked on your roadmaster but not your Challenger? Except a cammed and tuned M8.. those walk your Challenger???
I feel like maybe you gave him a head start!! Lol
@Ridingfish I road to beecher Illinois last weekend and Steve chamberlain that rides BRL road my challenger and got beet buy a cammed m8 as well.
I was just planning on 585 cams in my Chief...but damn maybe a 126...ugh haha
A few ppl told me the 585 cam is a beast in thr 116!!
@@Ridingfish Yes...I might need to control myself for a change and "just" do the cams 😆
I thought a 131 Lloyds engine was available ?
They have one.. I'm not sure why they chose to put thay 126 in this bike.. maybe available 🤷♂️ 🤷♂️....
Where is the race 🤷🏽♂️
Seems that Indian is following suit with HD.....Aftermarket Performance Parts.....Have your Mastercards and Visa Cards ready Fellas🤦
I think the aftermarket is finally ready to roll with "real" upgrades!! Good times are ahead!! What are you thoughts of the new CVO??
@@Ridingfish Beautiful Bike...Like the old style Fairings on both SG and RG better....Both way out of my Price range....Was in Glendale HD trying to make a deal on new RK Special in Yellow....Even at MSRP price i didnt want to make those payments for 60mos.....There is something about owning your owning your older Bike free and clear....👍😎
I'm hearing 45 and 53 that they will have a standard CVO and a special CVO.. thats a lot of money
@@Ridingfish Yes thats alot of money......For a Bike that your gonna ride hard....Cruisen down the Interstate at 80mph and more....Your gonna be hit with every bug and gravel known to Man.....Its gonna get scratched and dinged by them....20k is the Max i will pay for Bike...
Chieftain>challenger. I said what I said 😂
Hahahahahahah I know your opinion! Lol 💪 💪
@@Ridingfish 🤘. Challenger is good I just love that thunderstroke. Such a good engine.
Hmm??
145 ft lb and 120 hp
With the riding I do I like the chieftain power plant but like the fixed fairing better. The challenger power plant is nice to have fun but not practical for my riding style
What is the style you feel the Chieftain is better?
@@Ridingfish better low end torque the challenger seems like it wants revved more
Yea you are correct... the PowerPlus just Eats highway speeds so much!! Lol
Is that the power out of a 126? Do you know what power the 131 gets? There’s no data anywhere. Heck while you’re at it, what’s a 111 with 585 cams give ya?
Not sure why Indian isn’t racing the Chieftain BBK
I know they tried a little last year but had suspension issues.. but then (it was turbo charged) and had issues with that!
The Indian Chieftain has a poor head design when compared to the Challenger.
@@dnewman3402 as in the fairing? I agree, but look at the fairings on the current race bikes. If your talking motor, then oh different realize that. Thank you.
@@poppysadventures2020 ---> The Harley head design and the Indian Challenger head design makea a whole lot more TP and HP than the current 111 and 116-inch Indian engines.
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