I love how Vito was there obviously to buy time but more than anything analyze the room and know WHO really was behind it all. Barzini. Such a beautiful movie
The thing is, a lot of people forget that the movie foreshadows it was Barzini all along. The wedding at the beginning of the movie is actually very important to the structure of the story, because if you watch closely, Barzini is there observing all of the weak points that he takes advantage of in the future... Paulie is impressed by money, Sonny lacks discipline, Fredo is unreliable, Carlo will always be an outsider to the family, Clemenza is deep with the family but Tessio is more cool and intellectual... that brief shot of Barzini being a guest but not overly celebratory is easy to forget after everything else that happens, but everything exactly plays out from there.
Tattaglia brought the issue of Judges in pocket and Corleones adamancy. Then what are the other clues through which Don Corleone identifies Barzini as the one who was behind it?
@ just in how barzini is at the head of the table and how he reiterates what Tattaglia said in more sarcastic terms when he says things like “we are not communists”. Things like that made Vito realize it was barzini. The reactions…the more intelligent look. Tattaglia looking too desperate in getting assurances of judges while barzini in all that conference never showed any desperation whatsoever.
@@ottoschulz8629Tom's such a big part of this movie, people gloss over it. You don't have to be blood to be family and love & loyalty go hand-in-hand.
Mario Puzo said he wanted Vito be a "mustached Pete", a peasant. Brando said he should resemble a CEO of General Motors. After watching Brando, Puzo admitted Brando was correct.
@@ricardocantoral7672 That's interesting. Brando had an incredible understanding of characters, which is probably why he was so good at improvising throughout his career
When he said “if he’s struck by a bolt of lightning” he escalated the entire monologue without a change in volume or cadence. A “fuck around and find out” moment decades before we knew what to call it.
@@MegaThucydidesBarzini was at the head because it was on his turf, and he was mediating, as Vito mentioned earlier. His seat was not in anyway interpreted as his being at the head of the group by anyone. Vito read the room and realized it was Barzini because he noticed he wasn’t being very impartial. He openly blamed Vito for the whole situation.
The only actor from this scene still living, so far as I could verify, is Robert Duvall (and he’s 93 as of this writing). Some absolutely incredible performances here, of course Brando’s most of all.
@@tomhamilton5261there was a deleted scene from that part near the end Michael tells his father he kept his word he wouldn’t swear vengeance. But Michael told him he never gave them the word.
@@jondstewart this makes sense as when Don Corleone swears on the souls of his Grandchildren he won’t be the one to break the peace but it’s the only way he can buy time to bring Michael out of exile from Sicily. Going on the book , Michael tells Don Tomassino that he wants a message sent to The Godfather that he wishes to be his father’s son. It looks as if The Don knew that Michael would be capable of ruthlessness for The Family to survive and destroy its enemies.
@@leobthelionshow I think the implication is that it was Vito's plan all along. Make 'peace', refuse to seek immediate revenge for Sonny, provided they allow Michael to return and remain unharmed. Then train Michael up for the role of Boss, and have him take the revenge after Vito's death.
Different levels of negotiation going on at the same time in this room: Vito talking to Tataglia about a personal dispute, but to Barzini about the big picture (the drug trade). Both Tataglia and Vito stop listening when the lower level capo tries to speak (notice how Tataglia turns to his second at that same time) to show their disinterest in mediocre street game, and finally, Vito addressing the whole room to remind the animals that adults have made peace and chaos will not be tolerated.
@AGR04 No... Here's how it works: 1. Discussing business - stay seated 2. Personal dialogue - stay seated 3. Addressing the room - you stand You see this etiquette repeated in board room scenes in films like "Road to Perdition" and "Margin Call"...
@@AGR04Sure, he’s not a head of any of the powerful New York families, but everyone at that table (so including the guy speaking) is a boss of a family, and at a time when the Mafia was at the peak of their power. Each person there - being a member of the commission- is certainly powerful. It is supposed to mirror real life, and at that time there were some very powerful families in many areas of the U.S. The New York families have always been the main power, but they’re all heavyweights at that point in time for sure. So yes, not as powerful as Don Corleone, Barzini, Taggalia, the head of the Chicago outfit etc, but they were all running large and wealthy families at that point in time)
The book gives a description of all the bosses that attend this meeting. I don't remember the name of the bosa that stamds to talk but I believe he is the boss of the Detroit Crime family and it is stated in the book that he is very powerful
So Shakesperian. Tattaglia is right, there would be vengeance. Many of them would be killed. Not by the Don and his swearing on the souls of his "grandchildren" but his son....and there was a warning there too at the end.
@@alex.qb2334 when he speaks of how if his son comes back and people aim to kill him. Which of course they do try. They pay a price. It is inference. He swears on his grandchildren, not his direct line. Tattaglia misses that.
@@alex.qb2334 Yes as gab99 pointed out. The key line is when he said "I am a suspicious man". He knew if ANYTHING happened to Michael upon coming back & facing charges (including 'struck by a bolt of lightening'), it would be no coincidence.
He left the last part unsaid: “Upon my death, I shall cleanse everyone in this room who wronged me, through my son. But naturally I can’t reveal the long game. In fact, it’s probably a bad idea for you to allow Michael to return alive.”
2:47 This is when the godfather found out that "It was Barzini all along." Tattaglia gives Barzini a look in a seek of consent. The don notices, then reacts at 2:50
No it was when Barzini said “refusal is not the act of a friend..if Don corleone has politicians in his pocket then he must share them, he must let us draw from the well, certainly he can produce a bill for such services”
Barzini is obviously very powerful, that look doesn't mean anything. It just means that Barzini is running the meeting. Which everybody understands. He's sitting at the head of the table.
@@dailystriver2727that doesn't prove barzini was trying to take out corleone. It just means that he is in favor of running the drugs too. As are most of them.
@@eddievangundy4510 yes it does because of what he said he is forcing the drug business to go ahead which means he was behind it all along, and sollazo was his puppet it was him backing sollozo and playing the strings and the assassination attempt on Vito all along
The very idea of a work meeting where 2 of your coworkers have to explain their motives behind murdering each others children, and then forgo vengeance upon each other so the enterprise can be profitable again is absolutely insane. Imagine your child being gunned down brutally and having to cuddle one of the men behind it so Alf and Fanny at work can get their christmas bonus.
Vito, at least, didn’t go out of his way to make peace for the sake of money. Further escalation would have put Michael in danger, and going to the mattresses was -generally- an unpopular idea, because even in the heyday of the mafia, there was a point where bribery couldn’t save you because the authorities were eventually forced to step in.
It's an overblown representation of crime gangs negotiating business. It was done in an operatic fashion to make the film interesting to watch. It wasn't meant to be a realistic portrayal of the life. Donnie Brasco is a more accurate picture.
Took me a number viewings to finally appreciate how brilliant this scene is. Barzini made a huge mistake when he expressed his desire to take advantage of the politicians Vito had in his pocket.
That point was known when Sollozzo first met Vito. The mistake here is not Barzini but Tattaglia. He's talking to Vito while looking for signal from Barzini. Vito realizes it right away.
one of the best performances ever. i have to remind myself that it is brando playing the character. i don't see brando, i see vito corleone. and i literally mean that. brando completely drops whatever his personal behaviour would be.
"I forgo [or forego] the vengeance of my son." That is to say, I give up the right or intention to pursue that. Not "I forgot", which would mean "I just failed to remember to take vengeance for my son." As in the video title right now.
I think Vito's comments on getting involved with the drug trade turned out to be prescient. The RICO Act was passed in 1970, signaling the beginning of the end of the Mafia as a serious force, and their involvement in the drug trade was one of the things that really brought them to the federal government's attention.
@@n00b5lay3r Criminals short term gains forgot about long term consequences. Looking into the entertainment, food and beverages in the world the mafia had they kept themselves out of drugs and crazy turf wars much of their influence would be like these corporations in government. Where the mafia failed Wall Street was successful.
Vito talks about keeping Micheal safe, but not one mention of Fredo's safety. He felt certain the rest of the families saw him as a non-combatant. Shows how his low opinion of Fredo is and how far he was kept removed from the Olive Oil business.
Michael was the one who killed solazzo and the police captain, which is why he fled to Sicily. The families wanted Michael dead, they didn't care about Fredo.
This is a NY thing, East coast thing. What they have in Nevada *NOBODY* is ever going to risk screwing up for *EVERYBODY* . It wasn’t just their greatest racket, it was the greatest money laundering operation, probably in US if not world history. So this issue is not going to spread to Nevada, it’s mob sanctuary. Until what happened in Casino, some stupid fool mob man and arrogant bookie brought heat and it was just another pillar of the case that brought them down and they lost it all. (Well, they sold to corpos, and not all of Casino is accurate but it’s close)
So deliberate in his words. He said “I will not be the one to break the peace we’ve made here today.” Not “it won’t be broken.” He’s just pointing out that he won’t be the one to do it.😂
I love how Vito starts by saying he is willing to go back to the way things were. Corleone family on top. Cheeky. Barzini shut him down. The moment Vito knew who was behind Sollozzo.
I wish this clip had included the next minute or two of film after the meeting, when the Godfather and Tom get into the limo and the godfather turns to Tom and says, “I never knew until tonight that it was Barzini all along.” Cold as ice.
No, Barzini played it perfectly. He knew that Vito had called a meeting to get the war to end after Sonny was murdered, and Vito knew that if he did not get the war to finish, then Michael would definitely be killed next. The time was right for Barzini to expose himself as the mastermind, as he knew Vito was in a vulnerable position, and needed to be pressured into finally agreeing to allow and support the trafficking of drugs.
Cant help but notice Vito's subtle look of disgust after Bonnano's little speech about drugs hypothetically being OK as long as it's just kept in Black neighborhoods.
Whoa, I've forgotten what a force of nature Marlon Brando was even in the quietest of scenes like this one. Poetically done by all the actors in this scene, and it's a joy to see Richard Conte again even for a moment. I miss him.
Don corleone knew it was Don Barzini all along when he said “refusal is not the act of a friend..if Don corleone has politicians in his pocket then he must share them, he must let us draw from the well, certainly he can produce a bill for such services”
Incorrect, Vito knew it as soon when Barzini began to flatter him outta the blue, the blame just confirmed it. I'm half spanish and italian and this is something to avoid, avoid people that adulates you because those are the first that backstabs you.
To be fair though, times were changing. This meeting takes place in 1949-50. Prohibition was long dead, legal gambling in Las Vegas was growing far too fast and the families knew it was too public and lucrative to not attract the corporations, so gambling (illegal or otherwise) wasn't going to last much longer. They had to diversify, and it did made them swathes of cash until the 70s when RICO and the Controlled Substances Act came into being.
@@Hammer9001 "until the 70s when RICO and the Controlled Substances Act came into being." You mean when the government took control over the drug racket, which is an international market and can control other countries, as well as fund black ops in those countries. Trafficking and distributing drugs share the same arteries with human and weapons trafficking. No company can run all that, it's run by high positions in Washington, straight down to local cops protecting certain gangs to manage streets and keep the violence in check. That's why we have a police state here, with military hardware. Organized crime was cheating the government. It was torn down as the government wasn't in on the action. All the real gangsters just started working for the law. Action runs through them now, the lords of organized crime. You can't get arrested when you make and enforce the laws, and no outfit can take on the government. It's indestructible. You live off taxpayer cash, which you can annually demand more of, to fund all your pet projects and pay people off. No accounting is allowed, and news media won't touch you. Nice work, if you can get it.
After all these years and seeing this scene over and over, only now did I notice he has a bowl of walnuts in front of him, thus adding another layer to the scene in "The Freshman" where Marlon Brando's character, on whom Don Coleone was supposedly based, first meets Matthew Broderick and again has a bowl of walnuts in front of him (ultimately crushing one open with his hand). Well done.
1:12 The way Tatalia looks at Barzini right after Corlone mentioned his refusal of drugs. He is like "see I told you the guy is aganst drug bussiness".
Hence why both Michael and his father Vito are the GOATS who kept their cool and their mouths shut in an event of such powerplay since the Olive Oil War when Vito and Barzini were together against Mariposa.
This was Vito’s finest moment…he basically told them what he was going to do…he looked into the eyes of those that his youngest son would avenge…and none of them picked up on it because he presented it in a way that it looked like he was giving up
a lot of people highlighting Marlon Brando, and he is amazing here , but something about Robert Duvall in the background is really impressive to me, he doesn't switch off at all, he's not the focal point, he's not even in the foreground, but he's still acting perfectly, he looks like he's reading the room, analysing, when Vito speaks he looks contemplative and mulls over the words, when Tattaglia talks about vendettas he looks affronted, he could easily phone it in back there, but you could put him in the centre of the shot and his acting would feel at home.
"let me say that i swear, on the souls of my grandchildren that I will not be the one to break the peace here today" its so well put as the peace is broken by his son michael which eventually is followed by the accidental assassination of Michael's daughter or vitos grandchild in the final movie .... truly a masterpiece
When that boss stood up and talked about paying his people extra so they wouldn't get into drugs; when he mentioned about selling drugs to Blacks and called them "animals", you could see a subtle look of utter disgust on both Tom's and Vito's faces.
@@jondstewartBecause that’s Don Zaluchi from Detroit. He wasn’t involved in the New York war. Action was only taken against the New York families. Remember 4 families from other states were represented. Tramonti family (New Orleans) Chicago Outfit (Chicago) Zaluchi family (Detroit) Forlenza family (Cleveland)
@@jaycareaga9929 I appreciate the clarification! I knew he had folks from elsewhere at the meeting. And it looks like the only person outside the NYC area that was a threat was Moe Greene.
It speaks volume on how great a movie is when, despite coming out in 1972, the clip of a scene can still get 400K of views only 3 weeks after being uploaded.
Timeless movie. I watch it in its entirety occassionally. I consider these honorable Mafiosa more honest than the ruling class. It gave me a new perspective on life and what honor really was
I'm still sad that we never got an adaptation of the rise of power of Vito, his reign of violence in his debut that gave him this position, he is the better man from all of them, he knows it, they know it
So good how Coppola had the fruit bowls placed infront of Barzini and Tattaglia with the oranges directly infront of them foreshadowing their deaths later on in the films just like in the opening scene where the Don is buying them from the fruit stall in his failed assassination
...that I'll not be the one to break the peace made here today. Listen to that very well and you'll know that this man knows that peace is gonna break anytime soon, and it's going to be one of his that breaks it. Classic!
When he said “I’m going to blame some of the people in this room,” he looked directly at barzini and Tattaglia
Great catch
Wow. Nothing gets past you, Sherlock.
Your father smells of elderberries!
Wrong movie me thinks but tis funny maybe.
At least he doesn’t let anything get past him.
I love how Vito was there obviously to buy time but more than anything analyze the room and know WHO really was behind it all. Barzini. Such a beautiful movie
Also Tom the consigliere was really looking around and tried to observe all actions. 💪👍
The thing is, a lot of people forget that the movie foreshadows it was Barzini all along. The wedding at the beginning of the movie is actually very important to the structure of the story, because if you watch closely, Barzini is there observing all of the weak points that he takes advantage of in the future... Paulie is impressed by money, Sonny lacks discipline, Fredo is unreliable, Carlo will always be an outsider to the family, Clemenza is deep with the family but Tessio is more cool and intellectual... that brief shot of Barzini being a guest but not overly celebratory is easy to forget after everything else that happens, but everything exactly plays out from there.
Tattaglia brought the issue of Judges in pocket and Corleones adamancy. Then what are the other clues through which Don Corleone identifies Barzini as the one who was behind it?
@ just in how barzini is at the head of the table and how he reiterates what Tattaglia said in more sarcastic terms when he says things like “we are not communists”. Things like that made Vito realize it was barzini. The reactions…the more intelligent look. Tattaglia looking too desperate in getting assurances of judges while barzini in all that conference never showed any desperation whatsoever.
@@ottoschulz8629Tom's such a big part of this movie, people gloss over it. You don't have to be blood to be family and love & loyalty go hand-in-hand.
Vito showed anger, fury, wrath, sorrow in 5 mins. Best ever by Marlon 🏆
Agreed. This and the garden scene are in my opinion the best 2 in the film, which is arguably my favorite and definitely the best I've seen
Literally he's the worst part of it for me. Incredibly hammy and cartoonish
Mario Puzo said he wanted Vito be a "mustached Pete", a peasant. Brando said he should resemble a CEO of General Motors. After watching Brando, Puzo admitted Brando was correct.
@@ricardocantoral7672 That's interesting. Brando had an incredible understanding of characters, which is probably why he was so good at improvising throughout his career
Great actor! The best?
I always enjoy the “or if he’s struck by a bolt of lightning” to drive home that he’s killing all of them if Michael dies.
It’s moreso to point out that he won’t be naive to the slightest misfortune that befalls his son since he knows they’re gunning for him.
@@JakeSmith-rv1hm Not to worry. Micheal got this.
I too agree I loved his sense of humor and his beautiful smile and his boner sense of humor
When he said “if he’s struck by a bolt of lightning” he escalated the entire monologue without a change in volume or cadence. A “fuck around and find out” moment decades before we knew what to call it.
He didn't need to spell it out cause the guys in the room knew.
That idea is older than the bible. You reap what you sow
@NoctuaOlivae you reap what you sow is from the bible.
Can find it in psalm and galatians
@@JonathanVachon777 The Bible was a rewrite. A collation of much older stories.
@@BoreasCastel a rewrite? a rewrite of what?
Barzini showed himself and only the Godfather noticed it. A true genius in reading people.
LOL only Vito saw that Barzini was seated at the head of the long table?
@@MegaThucydidesNo when Barzini brought up Vito’s refusal to give protection the first time.
And Barzini taking over the conversation.
Barnizi: _Sits at the head of rectangular table, leads conversation in every moment_
Vito: Only I noticed I'm a fucking genius.
@@MegaThucydidesBarzini was at the head because it was on his turf, and he was mediating, as Vito mentioned earlier. His seat was not in anyway interpreted as his being at the head of the group by anyone. Vito read the room and realized it was Barzini because he noticed he wasn’t being very impartial. He openly blamed Vito for the whole situation.
The only actor from this scene still living, so far as I could verify, is Robert Duvall (and he’s 93 as of this writing). Some absolutely incredible performances here, of course Brando’s most of all.
I'm not going to take revenge - my son will do it for me.
And later when Michael is speaking to the Don he says “I’ll handle it” in the book- “Truly his fathers son”
But that’s because they moved against Don Corleone right?
@@tomhamilton5261there was a deleted scene from that part near the end Michael tells his father he kept his word he wouldn’t swear vengeance. But Michael told him he never gave them the word.
@@jondstewart this makes sense as when Don Corleone swears on the souls of his Grandchildren he won’t be the one to break the peace but it’s the only way he can buy time to bring Michael out of exile from Sicily. Going on the book , Michael tells Don Tomassino that he wants a message sent to The Godfather that he wishes to be his father’s son. It looks as if The Don knew that Michael would be capable of ruthlessness for The Family to survive and destroy its enemies.
@@leobthelionshow I think the implication is that it was Vito's plan all along. Make 'peace', refuse to seek immediate revenge for Sonny, provided they allow Michael to return and remain unharmed.
Then train Michael up for the role of Boss, and have him take the revenge after Vito's death.
Different levels of negotiation going on at the same time in this room: Vito talking to Tataglia about a personal dispute, but to Barzini about the big picture (the drug trade). Both Tataglia and Vito stop listening when the lower level capo tries to speak (notice how Tataglia turns to his second at that same time) to show their disinterest in mediocre street game, and finally, Vito addressing the whole room to remind the animals that adults have made peace and chaos will not be tolerated.
That guy is in the commision, that means automatically that he is not low level. He is a don in his city. Maybe not the biggest shot but still someone
The fact that the capo needed to stand up in order to get any attention and respect of the room. Definitely not on the same level as the rest.
@AGR04 No... Here's how it works:
1. Discussing business - stay seated
2. Personal dialogue - stay seated
3. Addressing the room - you stand
You see this etiquette repeated in board room scenes in films like "Road to Perdition" and "Margin Call"...
@@AGR04Sure, he’s not a head of any of the powerful New York families, but everyone at that table (so including the guy speaking) is a boss of a family, and at a time when the Mafia was at the peak of their power. Each person there - being a member of the commission- is certainly powerful.
It is supposed to mirror real life, and at that time there were some very powerful families in many areas of the U.S.
The New York families have always been the main power, but they’re all heavyweights at that point in time for sure.
So yes, not as powerful as Don Corleone, Barzini, Taggalia, the head of the Chicago outfit etc, but they were all running large and wealthy families at that point in time)
The book gives a description of all the bosses that attend this meeting.
I don't remember the name of the bosa that stamds to talk but I believe he is the boss of the Detroit Crime family and it is stated in the book that he is very powerful
So Shakesperian. Tattaglia is right, there would be vengeance. Many of them would be killed. Not by the Don and his swearing on the souls of his "grandchildren" but his son....and there was a warning there too at the end.
Which warning? could you point it out ?
@@alex.qb2334 when he speaks of how if his son comes back and people aim to kill him. Which of course they do try. They pay a price. It is inference. He swears on his grandchildren, not his direct line. Tattaglia misses that.
@@alex.qb2334 Yes as gab99 pointed out. The key line is when he said "I am a suspicious man". He knew if ANYTHING happened to Michael upon coming back & facing charges (including 'struck by a bolt of lightening'), it would be no coincidence.
@@dciccantelliit’s superstitious but yeah
That's why his granddaughter died in godfather 3
He left the last part unsaid: “Upon my death, I shall cleanse everyone in this room who wronged me, through my son. But naturally I can’t reveal the long game. In fact, it’s probably a bad idea for you to allow Michael to return alive.”
2:47 This is when the godfather found out that "It was Barzini all along."
Tattaglia gives Barzini a look in a seek of consent.
The don notices, then reacts at 2:50
Barzini was the most who have to gain
No it was when Barzini said “refusal is not the act of a friend..if Don corleone has politicians in his pocket then he must share them, he must let us draw from the well, certainly he can produce a bill for such services”
Barzini is obviously very powerful, that look doesn't mean anything. It just means that Barzini is running the meeting. Which everybody understands. He's sitting at the head of the table.
@@dailystriver2727that doesn't prove barzini was trying to take out corleone. It just means that he is in favor of running the drugs too. As are most of them.
@@eddievangundy4510 yes it does because of what he said he is forcing the drug business to go ahead which means he was behind it all along, and sollazo was his puppet it was him backing sollozo and playing the strings and the assassination attempt on Vito all along
3:11 they both were perfectly synced when they moved their head
😂
The very idea of a work meeting where 2 of your coworkers have to explain their motives behind murdering each others children, and then forgo vengeance upon each other so the enterprise can be profitable again is absolutely insane.
Imagine your child being gunned down brutally and having to cuddle one of the men behind it so Alf and Fanny at work can get their christmas bonus.
Vito, at least, didn’t go out of his way to make peace for the sake of money. Further escalation would have put Michael in danger, and going to the mattresses was -generally- an unpopular idea, because even in the heyday of the mafia, there was a point where bribery couldn’t save you because the authorities were eventually forced to step in.
In Spanish the phrase is "vale la pena" ("it's worth the pain"). There was a huge amount riding on Don Corleone's actions...
It's an overblown representation of crime gangs negotiating business. It was done in an operatic fashion to make the film interesting to watch. It wasn't meant to be a realistic portrayal of the life. Donnie Brasco is a more accurate picture.
That’s how Mafia works
@@roddydykes7053LMAO no, the real mafia is a bunch of violent thugs with zero class. This is just a film, not reality.
This movie is truly the pinnacle of the cinematic art. Nothing else can replace it.
Except The Room
You don't want an all-female remake? Sexist!
Someone has never seen American Ninja 3.
@@argentorangeok6224 Or the cinematic masterpiece "Monkey Trouble"
Scarface😊
such a powerful man, hide his anger and put his hate aside, being close to his enemy to lower their guard. I wish I could be him.
no you do not, his life is full of death
its acting
You could in real live situation use this lesson from Godfather
Took me a number viewings to finally appreciate how brilliant this scene is. Barzini made a huge mistake when he expressed his desire to take advantage of the politicians Vito had in his pocket.
That point was known when Sollozzo first met Vito. The mistake here is not Barzini but Tattaglia. He's talking to Vito while looking for signal from Barzini. Vito realizes it right away.
@@dudao4163 Yes, my error. Again, so many subtleties to pick up on.
Brando might have been a lunatic but damn that man could act.
one of the best performances ever. i have to remind myself that it is brando playing the character. i don't see brando, i see vito corleone. and i literally mean that. brando completely drops whatever his personal behaviour would be.
One of the few movies made where I wouldn’t change a single word in it
You commented this twice two minutes apart? Why
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What about the drugs being sold to black people part? Or the black people being called animals part?
@@ahmedjaved8 what's wrong with that line?
The act is so incredibly good it looks like we are watching a documentary! Like someone planted a camera in the real meeting! Just amazing 👏
"I forgo [or forego] the vengeance of my son." That is to say, I give up the right or intention to pursue that.
Not "I forgot", which would mean "I just failed to remember to take vengeance for my son." As in the video title right now.
Your comment made my eyes open wide open . Great analysis!! ❤
-Vito, did you remember to avenge Sonny?
-...
-...
-...shit
him saying that is something others see as a sign of weakness
He fixed it now
He also only says that HE forgos the vengence. he ain't say shit about anyone else.
“I forego the vengeance of my son.” Not forget
I think Vito's comments on getting involved with the drug trade turned out to be prescient. The RICO Act was passed in 1970, signaling the beginning of the end of the Mafia as a serious force, and their involvement in the drug trade was one of the things that really brought them to the federal government's attention.
The greatest gang in America is America itself.
Honestly if they stuck to just booze, gambling and women, with time they could have even made their business legal.
@@n00b5lay3r Criminals short term gains forgot about long term consequences. Looking into the entertainment, food and beverages in the world the mafia had they kept themselves out of drugs and crazy turf wars much of their influence would be like these corporations in government. Where the mafia failed Wall Street was successful.
@@n00b5lay3rbooze is just booze from a local liquor store now
Vito talks about keeping Micheal safe, but not one mention of Fredo's safety. He felt certain the rest of the families saw him as a non-combatant. Shows how his low opinion of Fredo is and how far he was kept removed from the Olive Oil business.
He was under the protection of the don in Nevada. He was safe.
Michael was the one who killed solazzo and the police captain, which is why he fled to Sicily. The families wanted Michael dead, they didn't care about Fredo.
This is a NY thing, East coast thing. What they have in Nevada *NOBODY* is ever going to risk screwing up for *EVERYBODY* .
It wasn’t just their greatest racket, it was the greatest money laundering operation, probably in US if not world history.
So this issue is not going to spread to Nevada, it’s mob sanctuary.
Until what happened in Casino, some stupid fool mob man and arrogant bookie brought heat and it was just another pillar of the case that brought them down and they lost it all. (Well, they sold to corpos, and not all of Casino is accurate but it’s close)
Fredo was always trash. Couldn't be bothered to protect his own father. Waited until Vito got shot to get out of the car and then drop his pistol.
@@brainflash1 Too be fair, he froze up. He just wasn’t made for the life.
So deliberate in his words. He said “I will not be the one to break the peace we’ve made here today.”
Not “it won’t be broken.” He’s just pointing out that he won’t be the one to do it.😂
I love how Vito starts by saying he is willing to go back to the way things were. Corleone family on top. Cheeky. Barzini shut him down. The moment Vito knew who was behind Sollozzo.
I wish this clip had included the next minute or two of film after the meeting, when the Godfather and Tom get into the limo and the godfather turns to Tom and says, “I never knew until tonight that it was Barzini all along.” Cold as ice.
Barzini overplayed his hand by saying that it was ‘settled’. He was too greedy.
Agreed, and he said it too quickly as well.
No, Barzini played it perfectly. He knew that Vito had called a meeting to get the war to end after Sonny was murdered, and Vito knew that if he did not get the war to finish, then Michael would definitely be killed next. The time was right for Barzini to expose himself as the mastermind, as he knew Vito was in a vulnerable position, and needed to be pressured into finally agreeing to allow and support the trafficking of drugs.
Every scene every character is epic. Godfather is the greatest movie of all time!
This, and Ran by Akira Kurasawa
I think I have seen this movie over 20 times, and it never gets old. I watch it every Christmas.
My best Godfather scene. What a speech and what a fantastic actor Marlon Brando is. A masterclasses from the grandmaster himself.
"I will not be the one to break the peace"
Making it pretty clear, between the lines, that he wouldnt be the one holding the gun. But someone will be.
Every moment, performance in this movie is pure perfection. This is the epitome of cinema.
Barzini sitting at the head of the table already sealed the deal he was the mastermind he was pulling the strings.
1:51 is where Vito realised that it was Barzini behind all of this nuisance
1:15 Tattalia is looking at Barzini saying to him silently "This is the real reason why we're here."
I think it was the "even women" comment that struck a cord with Tattalia. He's a pimp so the comment was directed at him
Yea it was the even women part. Mfing adulterers
Cant help but notice Vito's subtle look of disgust after Bonnano's little speech about drugs hypothetically being OK as long as it's just kept in Black neighborhoods.
Whoa, I've forgotten what a force of nature Marlon Brando was even in the quietest of scenes like this one. Poetically done by all the actors in this scene, and it's a joy to see Richard Conte again even for a moment. I miss him.
“Dad, when was the precise moment that cinema peaked?”
“Son……..”
“Son, posting such cringe is gonna make people wanna beat you up. Stop it 😅”
Marlon Brando was a brilliant actor...he successfully portrayed himself as the King of Mafia in his gestures, body language and voices.
That man was legitimately looked moved by brando. I wanted a brando hug too.
The title is SUPPOSED to be "I Forgo the vengeance of my son!" NOT FORGOT the vengeance of my son!
Don Corleone spoke very diplomatically here, I must say.
Don corleone knew it was Don Barzini all along when he said “refusal is not the act of a friend..if Don corleone has politicians in his pocket then he must share them, he must let us draw from the well, certainly he can produce a bill for such services”
Know your enemy better than yourself.
Incorrect, Vito knew it as soon when Barzini began to flatter him outta the blue, the blame just confirmed it.
I'm half spanish and italian and this is something to avoid, avoid people that adulates you because those are the first that backstabs you.
Barzini also sat at the head of the table.
@@SanFrancisco94118 it’s his turf where they’re hosting the meeting IIRC so the host sits at the head
Definition of acting 🎭 by Marlon respect 🫡 RIP
Interestingly enough, Vito was right. When they moved into narcotics, it was the beginning of the end for them.
To be fair though, times were changing. This meeting takes place in 1949-50. Prohibition was long dead, legal gambling in Las Vegas was growing far too fast and the families knew it was too public and lucrative to not attract the corporations, so gambling (illegal or otherwise) wasn't going to last much longer. They had to diversify, and it did made them swathes of cash until the 70s when RICO and the Controlled Substances Act came into being.
@@Hammer9001 "until the 70s when RICO and the Controlled Substances Act came into being." You mean when the government took control over the drug racket, which is an international market and can control other countries, as well as fund black ops in those countries. Trafficking and distributing drugs share the same arteries with human and weapons trafficking. No company can run all that, it's run by high positions in Washington, straight down to local cops protecting certain gangs to manage streets and keep the violence in check. That's why we have a police state here, with military hardware.
Organized crime was cheating the government. It was torn down as the government wasn't in on the action. All the real gangsters just started working for the law. Action runs through them now, the lords of organized crime. You can't get arrested when you make and enforce the laws, and no outfit can take on the government. It's indestructible. You live off taxpayer cash, which you can annually demand more of, to fund all your pet projects and pay people off. No accounting is allowed, and news media won't touch you. Nice work, if you can get it.
Fun Fact: Brando was 47 years old when he played this part.
About a year later, he appeared on the Dick Cavett Show so you can see how he really looked at around that time.
And he was a man of his word...he was in fact not the man to break the peace they made there that day. His son Michael took care of that.
After all these years and seeing this scene over and over, only now did I notice he has a bowl of walnuts in front of him, thus adding another layer to the scene in "The Freshman" where Marlon Brando's character, on whom Don Coleone was supposedly based, first meets Matthew Broderick and again has a bowl of walnuts in front of him (ultimately crushing one open with his hand). Well done.
This is probably my favorite scene from The Godfather movies.
You remember when movies have character that behave like adult, hides their emotion to see how things work out and doesn't lash out like school kids?
PlutoTV is running Godfather 1-3 marathons nonstop 😊
Which cut of Godfather Part III?
That was the scene that won the academy award
“FOREGO the vengeance of my son”. It’s not about forgetting, it’s about letting go and moving on. A concession he is making in exchange of peace.
It's forgo. Forego means to precede, to go before in place or time, whereas forgo means to abstain from, to do without, or to renounce.
"It was Barzini ALL along...."
Simply the greatest cinema work I have ever seen.
3:50 i just noticed Vito gets up and gestures to Tom to get up, but then Tom just sits back down. Huh? LOL
Tom moved vito’s chair backwards i guess 😂😂😂
He didn’t expect Tom to stay standing.
I thought it was to assist him with the chair.. you know, pull it out from behind him as he was going to be standing up.
It was to help him up if he needed it, which he turned out not to, so tom went back
it was to pull the chair back so he can stand up straight
One of the greatest movie scenes of all time
The word is forgo, as in put aside. Not forgot
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Greatest acting in History. From Cuba 🇨🇺 with love.
Marlon Brando was just so damn good in this movie.
The greatest meeting ever n movie history
I love how every important person in the room has someone to manage their chair.
1:12 The way Tatalia looks at Barzini right after Corlone mentioned his refusal of drugs. He is like "see I told you the guy is aganst drug bussiness".
The Dont wont break his promise, but his son will ..
If a man can not refuse a request they arent requests but are demands and the Don would have no power
Just the best movie ever.
If this had been his only role, it would have made him immortal.
This and his other roles already immortalised him. What are you talking about?
Even though it was considered a small role, I think he did a great job in Superman.
Hence why both Michael and his father Vito are the GOATS who kept their cool and their mouths shut in an event of such powerplay since the Olive Oil War when Vito and Barzini were together against Mariposa.
That orange infront of Barzini, real subtle.
About the video title, it's "forego", not "forgot". Glad to see this pivotal scene in movie history...😀
Times have changed. Don Corleone speaking on current events.
This was Vito’s finest moment…he basically told them what he was going to do…he looked into the eyes of those that his youngest son would avenge…and none of them picked up on it because he presented it in a way that it looked like he was giving up
You sit here before me, on this day.....the day when I became an icon in film history....now you ask more from me.....
"Strike by a bolt of lightning", it sounded like he's referring to a sniper
More like "Even if God/Nature kills him you'll all meet the same fate"
a lot of people highlighting Marlon Brando, and he is amazing here , but something about Robert Duvall in the background is really impressive to me, he doesn't switch off at all, he's not the focal point, he's not even in the foreground, but he's still acting perfectly, he looks like he's reading the room, analysing, when Vito speaks he looks contemplative and mulls over the words, when Tattaglia talks about vendettas he looks affronted,
he could easily phone it in back there, but you could put him in the centre of the shot and his acting would feel at home.
They cut out the best part, when Vito looks at the camera and says “I could have been somebody “
I coulda had class
Coulda been a contendah
"let me say that i swear, on the souls of my grandchildren that I will not be the one to break the peace here today" its so well put as the peace is broken by his son michael which eventually is followed by the accidental assassination of Michael's daughter or vitos grandchild in the final movie .... truly a masterpiece
Basically saying "I forgive you, but my son won't. You dug your spot, you built your coffin, now get used to laying in it."
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The placement of the oranges when they show Barzini and Tataglia lets you know what is coming for them.
When that boss stood up and talked about paying his people extra so they wouldn't get into drugs; when he mentioned about selling drugs to Blacks and called them "animals", you could see a subtle look of utter disgust on both Tom's and Vito's faces.
Interestingly, he was not one of the bosses gunned down at the end. I suppose Michael and Vito didn’t think he was a threat to their business.
@@jondstewartBecause that’s Don Zaluchi from Detroit.
He wasn’t involved in the New York war.
Action was only taken against the New York families.
Remember 4 families from other states were represented.
Tramonti family (New Orleans)
Chicago Outfit (Chicago)
Zaluchi family (Detroit)
Forlenza family (Cleveland)
@@jaycareaga9929 I appreciate the clarification! I knew he had folks from elsewhere at the meeting. And it looks like the only person outside the NYC area that was a threat was Moe Greene.
I thought the opposite, they looked like they agreed. Remember, Santino at one point referred to black people as "triggers".
@ricardocantoral7672 exactly. They were actually agreeing with he was saying.
Barzini said too much. He should’ve kept quiet, and Vito never would’ve known.
Title is wrong it's forgo, not forgot
well spotted and amazing swiftness by the poster: less than 2 hours stated, its changed.
Nope... that does not make sense. It should be "forego"
“I’m going to blame some people in this room.” *Looking right at Tattaglia then Barzini as he said it*
Perfection in Cinema
"i forgo the vengeance of my son" NOT forget....
It speaks volume on how great a movie is when, despite coming out in 1972, the clip of a scene can still get 400K of views only 3 weeks after being uploaded.
Brando was so amazing that I forgot it was Brando
Even the orange in the scene should get an oscar.
Timeless movie. I watch it in its entirety occassionally. I consider these honorable Mafiosa more honest than the ruling class. It gave me a new perspective on life and what honor really was
They never thought Michael was coming for all of them.
Damn, Brando's acting as he's standing up 😮
Brando what an actor
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
I'm still sad that we never got an adaptation of the rise of power of Vito, his reign of violence in his debut that gave him this position, he is the better man from all of them, he knows it, they know it
Wanting examples of someone forgoing vengeance of their son and having it turn out well in movies
This is the best scene in Hollywood history
best actor, best Film!!!❤❤❤
Regular meeting in my office
So good how Coppola had the fruit bowls placed infront of Barzini and Tattaglia with the oranges directly infront of them foreshadowing their deaths later on in the films just like in the opening scene where the Don is buying them from the fruit stall in his failed assassination
...that I'll not be the one to break the peace made here today. Listen to that very well and you'll know that this man knows that peace is gonna break anytime soon, and it's going to be one of his that breaks it. Classic!