Building a Hackintosh in 2023 - Is it still worth It? The answer may surprise you.
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- Does it still make sense to build a Hackintosh to run macOS Ventura in 2023? Let's examine the pros and cons and find out. The answer may surprise you!
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If your Hackintosh is no longer usable with MacOS, you can run Linux or Windows on it, so you're really not going to lose anything in the long run. I'm running Linux Mint on Lenovo ThinkStation S20, it runs like butter and it's 14 years old. You wouldn't be disappointed with a Hackintosh with the specs listed here.
yes, running Linux would make it run faster, and is free. I retired my hack due to OS upgrade render my wifi card useless. Bought Mini M2 pro to avoid headache, but the old computer will be handy somewhere else.
Got an Intel Core i713700K with Gigabyte Z690 Aero D, 64GB RAM, AMD RX 6800XT running macOS Ventura and Windows 11. Runs amazing.
I can't thank you enough for your expertise and tutelage. I've recently discovered your channel, and have learned more by watching 3 or 4 of your videos, than I have in 3 years of tinkering on my own. Much respect and gratitude!!
My Current Hackintosh Build:
i9-10900K
RX 6900 XT
128GB 3600 MHz G.Skill
Gigabyte Z490 Vision D
Aorus Liquid Cooler 360
3 x 2TB WD Black SN770
EVGA superNOVA 1000W
Phanteks Enthoo Primo
Samsung M7 4K 60Hz
Fascinating stuff. Glad I landed on your channel. Thanks for your time putting this together
Was about to purchase a new imac until my son sent me your macintosh pc build and this video. I love macs but not the price. Your video has given me the confidence to build my own macintosh. Thank you.
that's funny, because this wasn't even a tutorial on how to do it... but there are videos on how to do it. It's a little involved, but totally doable. But hang on to your current Mac because you might need it for the process.
@@SeeJayPlayGames You need to learn to read, Paul posted, "my son sent me your macintosh pc build and this video."
@@andy70d35 I know how to read. I said what I said. And I wasn't talking to you.
Liked this because it was made in good judgement and you did point that a base M2 Mac Mini can be a fine option, instead of going fanatic for one option and despising the other. But yes, its a good thing to find that Hackintoshing certainly isn't dead yet and still makes plenty of sense.
Just wanted to say thank you for your guide. I had Macbook Pro but sold it and bought for same money laptop on i5 9th gen and GTX 1650. Then I stumbled on your hackintosh guide. Now I can play heavy games on Windows 11 and use Final Cut Pro on Mac OS
Do you dual boot?
@@danielesparza2480 i'm using hackintosh on external ssd
GTX 1650 is not suppored in macos?
I bought used mac mini m1 for desktop and for the laptop i've chosen asus i3 for tripple OS - Hackintosh, Ubuntu and Windows.
Almost a year i use Hackintosh Monterey and everything is perfectly fine even the i3 is not good as i5. The cpu is 10th gen. Overall i really enjoying with two of my devices. Macbooks are too expensive and don't want to buy expensive machine anymore.
I find this comment very useful 🙂 Thanks a lot.
Glad you were able to find a good balance for your use case and what you wanted to spend.
Very nice, love the offset, love the low voltage current running through the wire rigging.
the cpu and gpu in this hackintosh is on par with the mac mini m2 pro (12-core cpu, 19-core gpu) version, as far as performance wise. if you were to configure the mac mini m2 pro with 32gb ram and 2tb ssd you will have to pay 3000 euro, comparing for the same configuration for the hackintosh, you will pay 900 euro. that is ridiculous if not criminal for apple to be charging for that kind of price and that kind of upgrade. with the hackintosh if your ssd dies you can always replace another sdd, but with the mac mini if your ssd dies, you will have to buy another new mac mini because the ram and the ssd are soldered into the motherboard.
Exactly right.
A very clear and balanced video. Thanks.
The base M2 Mac Mini comes with only 8GB unified RAM (shared by both the system, data and video) and the 256GB SSD is a a slow 1,500 MB/s. If one was purchasing one for video analysis and image processing then immediately the base model would really need to be upgraded (only at time of purchase) in RAM and SSD capacity, which involves + $200 for each, therefore $1000.
If I was buying again, my minimum would be a M2 Mac Mini with 16GB RAM for $800 plus a Thunderbird external NVMe enclosure and at lease a 1GB NVMe. So we are talking in the region of approx. $1000 for the minimally useful version. Any heavier use and we are looking at a M2 Mac Mini with 1GB SSD for around $1500.
As far as talking about expanding storage using an external device, we find that even the M1/M2s USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 ports limit a USB External NVMe to a real-world of approx. 500Mb/s. Therefore the additional cost of a Thunderbolt 3 external NVMe enclosure costing around $100 would be needed on top of the cost of the NVMe to obtain similar speeds to the internal 256Gb SSD.
Owning both multiple AMD/Intel PCs and Intel/'Apple Silicon Macs, I can understand why a Hackingtosh makes perfect sense when all the pros and cons are weighed up. And to be honest using the older MacOS versions Catalina on a Intel MAc is basically as good as using the latest Ventura on Apple Silicon. Give me a fully functional Hackingtosh with powerful graphics and I am quite happy.
On powerful Intel CPUs you could easily run Ventura, not only CPU makes sense on modern macos but RAM more than "base" 8 GB. 8 GB is barely OK on Catalina, everything later on 8 GB is cr*p. But, Apple has policy with sw vendors, that latest versions work with 3 last macos versions. So, this makes non sense of using hackintosh professionally these time. But, if your work could involve earlier sw versions for mac, then you are good to go of course.
thanks, this is the best basic guide!
subbed!!! I like this channel
from a mac user I did hackintosh for myself and I have to say It is awesome, my spec is:
CPU Core i9 13900K,
mono ASUS ProArt Z790 CREATOR WIFI
SSD WD Black SN850X PCIe Gen4 x4 NVMe M.2 1TB,
RAM Corsair DDR5 Dominator 31GB 6200Mhz ,
GPU ASUS TUF GAMING RX6900XT OC ,
All works (Airdrop, Handrop, iMess, Wifi, blutooth and LAN )
p/s: I am using It when watching this video :P
aint no cpu, gpu, and ssd that are coming from the m2 that will beat the score of your spec, not even the m2 pro, maybe perhaps m2 ultra? what kind of geekbench score do you get for your hackintosh?
what wifi card do you use, for aridrop etc.?
@@minavamp2811 i got 2597 @ Single Core and 19665 @ multi core
@@mr.niceguy724 BCM94360NG ^^
Nice config Sonny! Is Intel Quick Sync from 13900K (GPU encoding decoding from CPU) recognized by macOS?
Thank You!
For me, the main advantage is you can run macOS on hardware that isn't totally locked down like everything that has a T2 Chip and the storage soldered to the motherboard. Unfortunately, I can see the day coming when the OS will only run on genuine Apple hardware. Until then I'll enjoy playing with older Hardware and seeing how far I can push it.
Awesome! You made my day!
Built myself a hackintosh using a used HP ProDesk 600 with an i5 8500 that I picked up for $200. It works great!!!
I have that same mouse and keyboard combo. Nice surprise lol!!
I sold a 2014 iMac 27, i7, 32 GB RAM, 4 GB Video and 500 GB SSD. And it took me a month to sell it. Just getting a similar monitor alone would set you back $1k. You also get a nice, clean desk with it. I have set up macOS on KVM/QEMU before I got Apple Silicon MacBook Pro and Studio Max. I still need to run Intel from time to time and have four old Intel Macs if I need to do that. In the US, old Macs are often dirt cheap. The case for Hackintosh that I most often agree with is if you want to game.
One also needs to realize...in the commercial professional world. You cannot be on a location shoot with a Hackintosh and then something decides to break, be it the most simplest thing, then you are very much stuck. Having the set for life one option MacBook, essentially when its paying itself off with the amount of work you are putting through its reliability makes more sense for the professional. For the enthusiast its by all means yes a easier option to enjoy the eco-sysytem.
Excellent info.
I have a dell optiplex 3020 mt with macos big sur and it runs great!!
i tried to create a Hackintosh a few years ago and failed miserably. Now, it's a different story. I have 2 old Haswell Hewlett Packards which both run Catalina, one in my garage-workshop controlling a laser cutter and CNC machine and the other as a home server. I also have a Dell laptop running Monterey and also my main PC which is a 10th gen i5 using a Z490-p motherboard running Monterey as well.
why did I ditch Windows? I wanted my taskbar / dock down the left of the screen.
Took a little while to get used to the minimise, maximise and close buttons being on the other side, but apart from that all the software I need works. Office, Affinity Suite and some CAD/CAM software.
Couldn't be happier.
True, I am Hackintosh newbie, I bought a second hand RX6800 for just $350,
sold my 4.5 years old 2080FE for $300, so I just spent $50, and gpu performance increased 35%,(yay! goodbye Nvidia.)
My pc is 12700kf+32g+1t sata ssd+2t nvme+18t hdd, performance is comparable to M1ultra for one-third the price.
Is Intel gen 12 still supported to be hackintosh?
@@ahmadubaidillah6734 seems yes by opencore
I think the big question would be is it worth building a hackintosh to compete with the mac pro, as that is still Intel, so it would have the same lifespan, I'm pretty sure you could build a very high spec Hackintosh for a lot less than even the base mac pro, wouldn't have a nice case though
Very good analysis. I'd love to see another vid like this comparing the M2 ultra offerings. Or maybe you are waiting for intel 14th gen and apple's M3 chip to come out?
I've been using hackintosh for 3 years. Everything works fine I7, RX-580, mac OS Big Sur
so nice, any video to build your own hackintosh in 2023?
It has to be specifically those components. For example, it could be another motherboard or another video card like an RX 6600.
I built a Hackintosh in late 2016 / early 2017. It was great until it wasn't. The constant patching using 3rd party tools and worrying about updates bricking OSX was tough - the community was great but no one had the same exact config as I did and eventually, booting into OSX broke and I had to repurpose the machine as a Windows machine. I'm still using it (actually using it now to write this) as a Windows 10 machine. I have a MacBook Air M2 and a M1 Mac Mini now too and that Mac Mini is perfectly adequate for most desktop uses not involving editing or encoding files.
Sounds like Clover in those years
@@hackintoshexpert it was
I'm still using a hackintosh laptop from 2014, not as a main machine anymore but for Ableton Live. But I've been using OSx86 since the Leopard days when installing from a Vanilla dvd wasn't even possible yet, so I'm used to taking days to install updates and such. To me, the install and update process nowadays is so easy it's unbelievable. It definitely depends on your expectations. Compare it more to Arch Linux than Windows and you won't find it so hard.
You know that you can clone disk to another or make system full image before update?
There are two types of people :
1. People who do backup
2. People who will start doing backup
You're definitely in second group ;D.
PC Idling at the M2’s Max power for TCO over 7 years….net savings are really good for power consumption for a few seconds of arguments here and there in performance.
I used Hackintosh before but faced too many crash problem with Adobe CC and Microsoft Office. At last, last year I bought a M1 Mac Mini and crashes gone.
Thanks, great video. I had a Hackintosh for more than 10 years then got tired of small quirks and bought a 5K iMac. Having a Mac is full experience as it sleeps, wakes, and works much better than an average Hackintosh which is louder, uses more power, and often does not sleep. Also there is an integration with the horribly designed but in the same time great Magic Mouse and Keyboard, swipes, gestures, everything that makes Mac so good for everyday use. Then, brightness control on the keyboard, and auto brightness, those things simply do not exist anywhere else.
And this time to figure everything out also cost, googling and tweaking everything is as pain for someone who does not do such things every day and need to learn new stuff while doing it. But I still miss my Hackintosh, although I gave it to my son and it is still here in the family, as you said upgradability and having Windows on it as well is a great thing as you have only one computer.
I did the opposite to you. I had owned real Macs for 14 years before building my first hackintosh in 2015. My first Mac was the iBook G3 in 2001.
You can use Apple peripherals with a hackintosh. I used an Apple magic keyboard, magic trackpad and magic mouse with my hackintosh for nearly 2 years, and they work just like on a real Mac. I since switched to a mechanical keyboard and a Razer mouse because I find them more pleasant to use, but I do sometimes miss the gestures and swipes that you mentioned.
I’m thinking of switching to hackintosh because of Win11 being basically spyware and the lack of the type of pro software I need being absent from Linux
unless your using mac for video or photo editing as a job,paying the highway robbery prices for upgraded ram or storage is crazy. costs apple 1 to 2 bux to go from 8 to 16 gb and charge you 200
have built many hackintoshes and still have 2 going strong. one is an old core 2 duo and the other an x99mb 12 core xeon. the other very good use for 2023 hackintosh is a render farm.
Thank you for your videos of processors and gpus supported by Hackintoh, they have been very helpful, however, you can support us by making a video of the supported motherboard chipsets. I would really appreciate it very much.
I completely agree with your reasoning here, and I am in the process of building one final Hackintosh (with a 10th gen Core i7) that I know will run Ventura and hope will run Sonoma and MacOS 15. It’s hard to imagine that Apple won’t support Intel Macs until at least 2026, though I wouldn’t have guessed they would abandon the 2017 MacBook Pro or iMac so soon, and yet here we are.
Sonoma should still work on Intel hackintoshes since it supports the 2019 iMac without a T2 chip. I expect the 2019 iMac will still be supported by macOS 15 too. They'll probably drop support for Intel with macOS 16, in late 2025, although there'll still be security updates until 2027 or 2028.
Good to see so many power users in the comments!
Great video. While probably not the main reason, stopping Hackintoshes was probably part of the decision to move to ARM. But there is a possibly better route to getting a Mac than a Hackintosh; consider whether a trashcan Mac Pro would work and is affordable. They are upgradable to a certain degree.
i have downloaded a arm version of windows 10 to run on my mac, so I'm assuming you could run this an a hankingtosh, keep up the good work.
For me the obvious missing piece of the Apple ecosystem is a command line and a real file browser on the iPad, personally; I do a decent amount of custom code for AI related stuff, and being able to build and deploy it on a single device (with a neural engine!) that was portable in that way would be a game changer.
Given the lack of that, though, Apple's products...Don't quite make sense to me, until you get to the ultra high end; sure, a 128GB RAM Mac Studio *looks* expensive, but you can also use it to run AI models that require either a dual A100 Nvlink setup (I think maybe $20,000 not counting the rest of the PC), or use a more modest GPU (W7900 once it hits shelves, plus a ton of work gutting programs to run on ROCm, but at the same price as the entire mac studio), and lose a significant quantity of performance to attention slicing. I think something's wrong if your general purpose computer only offers good price to performance in comparison to dedicated data center silicon, but that may just be me. I will also note that while such a Mac Studio will *run* these models, it will not necessarily run them faster than the equivalent dGPU setup.
But in the lower end, a lot of easier to use Linux distributions are more private, and more or less work out of the box with a lot of setups, particularly for simpler tasks like web browsing and word processing. If you want a clean setup, ARM SBCs run great on Linux, use no power, and can go anywhere, in addition to costing less than the average person I know spends on coffee in a month.
I don't know, we live in a weird world.
@@n0b0dyatall1 I was specifically noting that the iPad would be a more or less universal computing device with access to a command line, with unique advantages and use cases, whereas I was implying the existing use of the command line on MacOS felt redundant because many Linux distros offer similar functionality (on an OS level) albeit with some DIY, meaning that I felt a command line and freedom to write and execute programs on the iPad would really tie together the Apple ecosystem for myself, at least.
The local market in my region is nowhere as good and cheap as what I saw in your listings. A hackintosh is leagues cheaper and also available.
Which one do you prefer, i5 8400 compared to i3 10100 for hackintosh ? In my country the i5 8400 price around $62 while the i3 10100 around $94, do you have recommendation for budget build, right now i have rx 570, so we can omit gpu need. Thank you.
Are u have full tutorial ?
whats the best gpu, i can throw at it? i have a nvidia 4080 laptop, but i don't know if that will work?
The issue with hackintosh is 1 update could destroy some integral part of the OS
Just put the video playback speed 1.25 and enjoy.
Hey I have i3 10105 and Intel arc a750 8gb gpu can I install Mac os on this configuration pls reply .
Apple upgrade prices are absolutely outrageous.
It's simple = 1000$ performance in hack = 2500-3000$ performance in real mac. For home or remote work - the best way get macos + performance that u need + windows. i5-13400F works perfect with macos. But I still have M1 air and I love it so much :)
price to performance is not the only metric. I have a Hackintosh so I can dual boot with Windows (for gaming), and not need 2 machines
Yes, that's a massive plus for those of us who enjoy gaming.
@@BartechTV working lol
I’ve tried dual booting, but anytime OCLP runs a root patch my Windows EFI is destroyed.
that has not been my experience, but I rarely update Open Core. that's not to say I don't have any weird behavior - I get lockups a few times a week in MacOS that require the reset button. I used to worry about data loss, but so far no issues, and all my personal stuff is on a NAS, so that doesn't get rudely turned off@@zeroturn7091
Hey, do you or has anyone a good tutorial featuring the i5 13400? I pretty much have the same specs as given in your example for a hackintosh, including a RX 570 and I'd like to try it. Thanks in advance for potential help. I don't need all answers here, but just a basic tutorial to start. Again, featuring the 13400.
do you have efi for this configuration?
If you can keep up with firmware updates on older macs and if you can hack the firmware then go for it.
What about size?
The video cards second hand from minning are very cheap now. So a system with Intel processor, 16 GB of ram and a ssd will be affordable.
Nice
My MBP still works. I switched from using Macs to Hackintosh in 2014. Back to real MBPs in 2018... And now I am building 3 Hackintoshes:
1. Ryzen PC Hackintosh - very powerful CPU and Graphics card. 5800X.
2. Legion 5 Pro hackintosh - 64GB RAM
3. Possibly an Intel HP hackintosh - 32GB RAM - Still buying this one
Is it metal native though fren
just wait till we can build arm based PC's
Yeah, no. ARM based Macs use special software and hardware instrunctions, and unless someone takes the time and effort to emulate or bypass it in some way you're never going to see an ARM based PC run MacOS. Just the sad way it is.
@@niklas7816 you have very little faith in the hacker community my friend
@@niklas7816 where there's a will, there's a way.
I think it will be possible, maybe PC arm CPUs wouldn't be as powerful though
Not possible anymore. ARM have SoC and a botched UEFI implementation.
That means that despite having the same exact hardware, two different ARM based devices cannot boot same OS.
ARM is a manufacturers dream of a locked hardware.
How do you get Mac OS onto a pc?
i am using a hackintosh too with rx 580
The 13500 has a way better iGPU which greatly improves productivity like video editing.
Hardware ?
what hackintosh could you recommend for 500$
Running my hackintosh since 2017. I think we still got a good 2 years until apple stops supporting Intel CPUs.
I think 3-4 years, and then another 2-3 years of security updates. They're still selling Intel Mac Pros, which can cost $50,000 fully specced. Anyone would be a bit peeved if they dropped $50k on a new computer only for the manufacturer to drop support after 2 years. There are new EU laws incoming that will mean manufacturers of electronics devices will have to offer a minimum of 3 years of OS updates and 5 years of security updates. Assuming Apple discontinue the Intel Mac Pro this year, that would mean OS updates for Intel Macs 2026-2027 and security updates until 2028-2029.
1 year left for main support and 2 years for extended support.
A new Mac Pro is coming out next year.
@@BartechTV I don’t believe it for a second
Best thing about hackintosh is that they can be repaired and upgraded, unlike new disposable Macs.
I have a hackintosh et Asus Z390-H Gaming, Intel QQBY 3.10GHZ(I9-9900K), 32 Gb DDR4-2666, 500 Gb NVMe(Dualboot MacOS 14.3.1 and Windows 11 Pro), Rx 590 8gb, Corsair CS 750 PSU.😀
I just built a new hack this last summer. 11th Gen i9 and a 6900xt. Much more flexibility than my m1 MacBook
8:04 patching unsupported mac to use newer version of macOS is much easier, almost painless in comparison to maintaining hack
Hey Man...
I wanted to use that for coding, As in Xcode/swift, I am confused a bit will this 300$ mac mini is worth it for that?
I mean willl it render in screens and code?
and
please tell me is there any problem or compromise will have to do with 300$ hackintosh?
Yeah, compiling code on this small one will be relatively fast, but emulation of iphone will be very very slow
If you have a Hackintosh, is it possible to start it in recovery mode? What is needed for that? Original keyboard?
You just select recovery in the OpenCore boot picker.
The ONLY reason to build a Hackintosh (or to own a Mac at all) is to run software that only exists in that environment. And there are fewer of those programs every day.
Short Answer: Yes
Long Answer: Yes
Really well-defined Answer: Yes
Thanks for previous answer! What a about security in Hackintosh? Will it be as safe as a PC? There is no T2-chip. Is it possible that MacOS will require T2 in the future? Strange that it doesn’t do it now.
The 2019 iMac is the reason that hackintosh is still possible. It has no T2 chip. So, as long as macOS runs on the 2019 iMac, it can't require a T2 chip.
Apple usually supports hardware with OS updates for 5 years. I think that macOS 15 (the next release after Sonoma) will likely be the last version of macOS to run on Intel, on non-T2 Macs, and therefore on hackintosh. There'll probably be another couple of years of security updates after that.
A question my friend,can i use hackintosh on a mini Pc with Ryzen 5600G apu?
No, only Ryzen 3000 series APU work, using whateverred kext.
if that thing can run mac game natively i might install it
yeah Hackintosh is still great but as you said Big A may drop support for intel CPU within few years. that's only problem..
Short answer: It's not worth building a hackintosh. Apple will drop support for them this year probably, because they've already switched to ARM chips and the rest of the reasons can be found on the internet. But if you want a *good* (not gaming good) PC, get the parts which are compatible with atleast Linux IMHO.
about Linux I recommend the Lenovo IdeaPad 3 15ARH05, it is a pretty solid laptop for its price. Been using it for almost 5 years, it's been running great ever since.
If you buy used, there is little between them on price. The best way to expand a Mac is to use thunderbolt. The M1 is the better choice for video editing, bang for buck. I still have a Hackintosh, but it’s going to be my last.
What confused me is that mac os seems to get glitchy if you don’t update the software , it’s like they do it on purpose .
Many musicians keep really old operating systems so they can still use all their third party apps and devices without compatibility issues . Sticking with a real apple product always creates music production issues if you update on time and not updating for years can sometimes create weird issues for regular use .
Doesn’t Apple have a way of owing your computer isn’t a real Apple device? Doesn’t their OS send information back to them constantly about usage and device being used? Or do they have no way of knowing?
I wonder if someone were to release videos and music done on something like this, if they could somehow trace the info and see the persons usage history . Ami I wrong?
I like the idea of a powerful computer with Apple software . Some music production companies aren’t even fully compatible with the m1 yet . It’s a very weird thing for musicians
Ape is insane with their Ram and SSD upgrades. They are completely Nuts. Once Apple drops Intel support, Hakintosh's will be history
As a user of hackintosh for 10+ years, and before that an Mac user. I'm okay with switching to Linux when hackintosh wouldn't be usable.
Quick question:
Can a hackintosh (MACOS Ventura) be built on new hardware of 2023 ? like AMD Ryzen 9-7950X with a AM5 motherboard, 128GB DDR5 and a RTX-4070-ti ??
Or does it have to be a specific hardware only ??
Just curious 👀🤔😋👍
It has to be hardware that is supported by macOS - usually that means hardware that's been used in a real Mac, or is similar enough to hardware that appeared in a real Mac to still work.
You can build a hackintosh running Ventura using a 7950X, and many have - browser.geekbench.com/search?q=7950x+macos.
But the 4070Ti wouldn't work since there's no driver support in macOS. Nvidia used to provide their own drivers for people using Nvidia cards in MacOS, but Apple pulled their developer licence, preventing them from continuing.
As of now, the fastest GPU that you can put into a hackintosh is an RX 6950XT. Officially, only the 6900XT is supported, but the 6950XT is similar enough that it can be made to work with a simple device id spoof.
@@BartechTV Thank you so much for responding. This clarifies MANY things. 😋👍 I forgot about the NVidia debacle with apple. 👀🤔
I wish that Geekbench list gave the exact models of the motherboard used. Some have weird names to them and others just have the Asustek Inc. company name.
But no model. 🤷♀
I think Apple has made a mistake if not getting upgraded Intel and rdna3 support in new mac pro, the performance advancement in latest gpu and cpus has been much higher than on apple silicon, especially upcoming xeon w 24xx and 34xx series with up to 56 cores, would be a logical mac pro 7.1 refresh upgrade
perhaps they will refresh Intel Mac Pro next week, when Intel announced new workstation platform, Apple Silicon can't even compete against 8-channel of up to 4TB ram and 112 PCIe 5.0 lanes
Totally, I think apple will be biting the dust when it comes to raw CPU and GPU performance. At the moment apple doesn't have anything similar to threadripper and epic processors, and nothing similar to 4090
Can you build a Hackintosh on a mini/micro pc ... for example on a Dell Optiplex 3050 micro/mini PC ... and can you get your iPhones iMessages, etc. on it?
Yes you can. Just make sure you’re using a valid serial number and have the iPhone and hackintosh signed into the same iCloud account.
@@BartechTV Valid serial number for ____??
@@BartechTV Also, can you build it on a mini/micro pc like the Dell Optiplex 3050 micro/mini pc??
You need to generate a valid serial number that corresponds to the Mac model you choose in your SMBIOS. Choose the Mac model in OpenCore Auxiliary Tools, click "generate" to generate a serial, then check it on Apple's website to make sure that it's not in use.
Yes, you can use an Optiplex 3050. If you're running Ventura on a Skylake you'll have to spoof the iGPU device ID to Kaby Lake for it to work.
Hackintosh has trouble when upgrades from Apple happen right?
Yes. Sure. Apple is cutting hardware support for older Mac for each version upgrade of macOS. Thus Hackintosh for most PC will stop soon. You can still use it but only with older macOS version. Latest version will not have driver code for older machines.
For me I want best of both worlds. For work I need to boot up into windows and run unreal engine alongside an Nvidia rtx 40XX card. So do hackintoshs support Nvidia RTX even though Apple don’t support them?
Not on any new OS. The last Nvidia driver was several years ago
I have plans to make a hackintosh from a mini pc. This for obvious reasons won't have a Nvidia GPU and I'll buy a Intel CPU. Would the motherboard affect in here? Will something like GEEKOM Mini IT11 be enough for this with 32GB and a i7-11390H?
Unfortunately the 11th Gen Tiger Lake iGPU isn't supported in macOS so it wouldn't work. The most recent mobile Intel CPU to be used in a real Mac was the I5-1038NG7 in the 2020 13 inch. Recent developments with nootedred kext have made Ryzen APU's more compatible, adding support for Vega graphics. So, a mini PC based on a Ryzen CPU and integrated Vega graphics can run Sonoma, for example the Minis Forum Venus UM480/UM560 XT. For more information on AMD hackintoshes take a look at amd-osx.com/
@@BartechTV wow, that's totally the oposite information I got saying "whatever you get, try to get an Intel".
I thought that having any type of Intel, it should work at the end. I have others mini pcs in mind with Ryzen. The thing is that I don't find much information about mini pc + hackintosh. Since you cannot change much from these, the available options I don't know if they are going to work.
If you could buy any mini pc just for this, would you take that Minis Forum Venus? Or you'd buy something else?
The problem is that the iGPU on Intel processors more recent than 10th gen aren't supported in macOS, since that's when Apple stopped making Intel Macs. On full size desktops it doesn't really matter since you can just install a dedicated graphics card, but on Mini PC's or laptops, you can't. So on Intel you're limited to 10th gen or earlier.
If you want a Mini PC running MacOS Sonoma you can either use a 8th gen to 10th gen Intel, or an AMD with Vega graphics using NootedRed.
If I was looking to buy a Mini PC then I would choose the Minis Forum Venus UM560 XT with the Ryzen 5 5600X / RX Vega 7 graphics just because of the price - 229 Euros for a barebones system.
The best performance Hackintosh Mini PC right now would probably be the MinisForum Neptune HX99G with Ryzen 6900HX and dedicated Radeon 6600M graphics. It's about 10% faster than an M2 Mac Mini in Geekbench 6 MultiCore CPU but more than twice as fast in the Geekbench 6 Metal test, even beating an M1 Max.
I haven't used the MinisForum PC's myself, I've only seen benchmarks from others who are running macOS on them.
@@BartechTV so in that case the best CPU you can use for a hackintosh today (til something else is released) is the previous generation to the M1. I can understand that, but how come it would work (and even better as you said) on a Ryzen?
Also, I don't need to have a powerful macOS system, I just want it to publish apps to the Apple Store. I won't even use it for coding because this will be done in Windows. Probably I'll use an old pc to install the hackintosh and I'll buy a better mini pc
Will hackintosh work on Intel core i5 12400 (128MB integrated graphics) , Asus Prime H610 ME-D4 Motherboard, 16GB DDR4 3200MHZ RAM ? or we still need a 10th gen cpu ? What are the requirements for motherboard ? Does it have to be only intel 10th generation cpu with B460 series motherboard ? please clarify
For CPU’s newer than 10th gen, you’d need a dedicated graphics card. MacOS Ventura doesn’t support the integrated graphics on Intel’s newer CPU’s. I’m using an Asus RX 5700 8GB in my 13th gen build.
Sounds great .What about the motherboard requirements . Does chipset matters ?
Any 600 or 700 series motherboard should work. Most people are using Z690 and Z790 boards but I'm using a Gigabyte B760M-DS3H which works perfectly. A recent firmware update brought 14th gen compatibility too, so I can upgrade in a couple of months when the new CPU's appear.
I ran hackintosh on a intel nuc for over 5 years now. Still works, still ok. But like you said..the M1 or M2 mac minis are cheap and powerfull. It doesn't make any sense anymore to build a hackintosh. Apple did well on that. Next computer i will purchase will be a Mini. Nuff said.
Can you guide me setup it ? i can't find the way setup about it
Now you can get a Mac mini with m2 for 599.00 and with an education discount of 100.00 bringing the price down to 499.00
$499 is good value, but that's a price that only 2 people out of every thousand can take advantage of, since only 0.2% of people are American and a student.
In Europe it is 729 Euros - $772.
In Brazil it's 7,499 Reais - $1,444.
I will correct you. You don’t have data fully correct. Laptops with the RX 6600m, 6700s, 6800s which are Navi 23 are compatible, like the Legion 5, Asus G14, hP Zbook fury workstation
I really like Apple's design and everything is kept plain and simple. Unfortunately, the products are overpriced. That's why I think that Ubuntu or linux mint is a great alternative. With a bit of tinkering, you can set them up to look almost like the original Mac OS. If I may be honest: I think the installation and post install configuration of hackintosh is more complicated than the installation and setup of a linux system.
Please make videos on how to run ios app in hackintosh
Because windows 11support Android app
It's not possible. iOS apps only run on ARM.
GPU Passthrough virtualization makes Hackintosh much easier as you can pass through an amd graphics card and then use whatever hardware you want on your host os. This is great as you can use MacOS and Linux on the same machine at the same time.
Can we use Ryzen CPU for this?
You can but with some caveats as I mentioned in my video about which CPU to choose for a Ventura hackintosh - mainly compatibility issues with Adobe apps, with VM's and with audio applications.