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And half the charts on C3 Customs seemed to learn all the wrong lessons from these. Some of the C3 charts could legitimately be Harmonix quality though, so it’s hit and miss.
I'm not sure either, he makes comments on everything like it's supposed to be obvious what's wrong, but I almost never see anything wrong and he never explains. It's kind of annoying
@@nameless-user legally? No. In reality? Copyright infringement (which is what digital piracy falls into) is a civil dispute. As in the effected party, Activision, would specifically have to seek out legal action against the pirates. Thats why youll hear about companies like Nintendo sending a cease and desist, which is basically a warning of legal action, to rom modders, fan games, and piracy sites. No individual person would realistically be in danger since finding a single individual who pirated the thing would be basically impossible. TL;DR: yes but the owners of the game dont care enough to do any thing about it. Thus "Abandonware", abandoned software.
@@nameless-user Pretty sure but even if it wasn't, no one's coming after you for it. There's no way for the devs or the music labels to earn money off of GH3 anymore so they don't care what happens to it.
Remember: it is always morally correct to pirate unlisted/unavailable DLC tracks for Guitar Hero. Edit: Since you guys have turned this comment into a thread discussing the morality of pirating, allow me to share my perspective on the matter. If you cannot afford it or if it’s no longer accessible to acquire legally (as is the case for all Guitar Hero DLC), pirate it. If it’s accessible legally and you can afford it, and the entity providing it is actually deserving of your gratitude and support (basically, not Activision 🤣), then support said entity officially.
used to watch you a few years back and just came back recently, gotta say i really love this style of content over clone hero memes. don't get me wrong i _love_ clone hero memes but this stuff is so laid back and chill and i love it. it feels way more natural to watch. tysm acai
People seem so afraid of piracy of this kind-of thing like the feds are gonna come knocking on the door or something. Completely understand that Abandonware is a big grey area, but it doesn't seem to have caused any big legal issues at the moment (at least any I know of). The company ain't gonna care to keep sellin', so take it in your own hands.
@Remy Yeah. I should've used the term "Abandonware" instead of piracy outright, but like I mentioned, Abandonware is a big grey area and might still be seen as piracy in the legal system.
If acai goes for Rockband DLC and FC’s all the rockband 4 dlc I’m screwed. Imma be watching him pass all my fc’s Im at 1364 and he’s gonna pass me with ease
loving the console content. seeing these games in the spotlight is so awesome. GH3's xbox hopo engine is pretty awesome but man strumming awkward bursts of strums or fast bursts of strums is so scary cause its so easy to over strum lmfao.
just commenting because this content got me back into your channel. not a fan of the mashups and stuff but this progression is cool. just commenting to boost algorithm
If it's not available anymore, then yeah, pirate that shit, man! 😅😆👌🏻 ol master cheeks! I love that video with steve vai just jammin out and just doing an improv session! Such a cool video! I love all the making of and behind the scenes stuff for all the halo games! Love halo! Good stuff! 😎👍🏻
why is too much problem on pirating something that isn't possible to get anymore? I mean, is practically abandonware at this point... unless they remaster the GH3 with DLCs in a new GH engine... but we know that's never gonna happen (praying everyday for this to happen, tbh)
I only ever played the PS2 versions of GH until I got a 360 in like, 2012 and even then never got the games like in 2017 or so. I'm pissed that you can't even legally buy the dlc.
Nice to see more console GH videos. Are you going to follow GuitarHeroROXS’s footsteps and go for WT-WoR DLC at some point? Edit: Never mind, you mentioned 300+ songs you still had left to FC, so I can’t wait for you to eventually tackle them!
Way back before I got any GH game for myself I played the Halo theme as someone's house on Easy. Having no determination to continue playing a song if I couldn't hit all the notes I thought Guitar Hero kinda sucked. (I was clearly not open to music game sat the time. Also I'm not sure the game was well calibrated, like I knew how to do that in '07.) I came back to this game so hard after learning that Operation Ground and Pound by Dragonforce was a DLC song. It took years but I was so darn happy when I was good enough to pass OGAP on Expert.
ahhhh man! Halo MJOLNIR mix as a download, Hier Kommt Alex as a bonus song... I fucking loved GH3 and I still have a lot of the dlc on my 360. I do feel slightly cheated though, only realizing now they apparently had stuff like No Doubt and Dropkick Murphy's as dlc too :D
Bro that "Marilyn Manson" song is fucked. idk what it is about it but I just can't do that pattern at all even on whale pussy clone hero. Another awesome vid. love seeing you go through all these official games
My fav you playing clone hero is you playing rush e in 2018 i really love your vids hope you can make more videos and rush f was my fav music in sheet music boss and sheet music boss made this! Hope you have a good day fan of acai :)
GH3 is a really nice engine, at least playing it more than anything. Which honestly Aerosmith just might be what is needed, that is actually great [in comparison] its just gotta enjyo Aerosmith which for me, i like the game. Shame no patch or any kind of backwards engineering happened to try to port some of the A quirks to 3.
I have a sort of vague understanding of why you're saying the charting is bad, but I couldn't put my finger on exactly what's bad about it I'd be interested if you wanted to go in depth and explain for a video!
I'm mostly speaking as someone who just likes rhythm games and music a lot, and not someone with a ton of GH experience, so take what I say with a huge grain of salt! But from my understanding of it, there's kind of an art to taking a real world guitar performance and translating that down to 5 buttons+strumming. Because the guitar is so much more complicated and chords exist on not just one but two axis (up and down the neck as well as across the strings) there's a good amount of variety in how a chart could choose to represent chords and chord progressions that go beyond the limits of the five buttons. Charting is also a balancing act between 'accurate' and 'fun', where sometimes you have to trade off accuracy to make the experience more enjoyable and/or less fatiguing. But overall, you're generally aiming for something that's at least intuitive, where the player can roughly guess what the next notes are going to be based on the song. For example, they'll know that if the notes coming up are lower than what you've been playing, they're going to be more to the left. If you're already too far left on the board? You can expect that this new section is going to shift somewhere new (emulating moving your hand on the neck of the guitar) but once established, the following notes will stay consistent for as long as possible. The problem with a lot of the charts in these videos is that whoever charted them made some really weird decisions that break the implied rules set up by the main and other games. They didn't pick a range to stick to it and will instead just shift around randomly, leading to moments where a note is low in the song but played high on the board out of nowhere, and only for that one note. As a result they're unintuitive and hard to predict, which turns them into a guessing game instead of a test of skill. They also just feel less fun to play, because they don't satisfy the expectations set up by the music. Your brain expects one thing and you give it something totally different, which is frustrating. Additionally, the songs are often overcharted, which is when the chart has either done a bad job of balancing the fun by focusing too much on accuracy, or the chart requires you to strum more than what is actually even in the song. You end up with an experience that's almost an endurance test where it's hard just for the sake of being hard, and not because it's fun or interesting or compelling. (Apologies to anyone who knows better than me if anything I've said here is totally off or missing something obvious.)
1. He is playing this on a real but modified Xbox 360 2. If you press green and it strums orange, that means something is wrong with your Guitar Controller, the problem is that the game doesn't pick up your controller as a Guitar, but instead it's just a Standard Controller, on PC you can use program called X360CE
I agree that pirating sucks but if there is literally no other option then what are ya gonna do? It’s like like you’re doing it for BG3 or DMC5 or something. Guitar Hero 3 is long abandoned.
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Can you explain in detail what's bad about the charting? I believe you but I don't think I really understand most of the time you point it out.
The charting on these is just a masterclass on what not to do
How should the trill in Slash guitar battle been done? Make the greens following the single non-green notes into HOPOs?
And half the charts on C3 Customs seemed to learn all the wrong lessons from these.
Some of the C3 charts could legitimately be Harmonix quality though, so it’s hit and miss.
I'm not sure either, he makes comments on everything like it's supposed to be obvious what's wrong, but I almost never see anything wrong and he never explains. It's kind of annoying
@@theharvardyard2356 yeah I’m not really seeing what’s wrong here either. I’ve always loved playing this.
Why is the halo one bad I’m curious
Remember. Its not pirating if its abandonware
GAYYY
Serious question: Is that how it legally works?
@@nameless-user legally? No. In reality? Copyright infringement (which is what digital piracy falls into) is a civil dispute. As in the effected party, Activision, would specifically have to seek out legal action against the pirates. Thats why youll hear about companies like Nintendo sending a cease and desist, which is basically a warning of legal action, to rom modders, fan games, and piracy sites. No individual person would realistically be in danger since finding a single individual who pirated the thing would be basically impossible.
TL;DR: yes but the owners of the game dont care enough to do any thing about it. Thus "Abandonware", abandoned software.
@@nameless-user Pretty sure but even if it wasn't, no one's coming after you for it. There's no way for the devs or the music labels to earn money off of GH3 anymore so they don't care what happens to it.
@@nameless-user I don't think so but nobody would bother prosecuting or enforcing once pirating is no longer losing a prospective purchase.
Remember: it is always morally correct to pirate unlisted/unavailable DLC tracks for Guitar Hero.
Edit: Since you guys have turned this comment into a thread discussing the morality of pirating, allow me to share my perspective on the matter. If you cannot afford it or if it’s no longer accessible to acquire legally (as is the case for all Guitar Hero DLC), pirate it. If it’s accessible legally and you can afford it, and the entity providing it is actually deserving of your gratitude and support (basically, not Activision 🤣), then support said entity officially.
That goes for any content you can't legally get anymore ;)
Rock Band DLC as well?
@@beckybecky125 can you still buy it? no? gotta find your own solutions
 Yep, as a matter of fact a group of modders have the entirety of RB1-3 DLC dumped and available to download on a google spreadsheet
@@acai28 well I mean DELISTED stuff
used to watch you a few years back and just came back recently, gotta say i really love this style of content over clone hero memes. don't get me wrong i _love_ clone hero memes but this stuff is so laid back and chill and i love it. it feels way more natural to watch. tysm acai
I appreciate it. I now feel like I'm making the content I've always wanted to make
Something tells me Harmonix took all the good charters with them 😂
_sideeyes the charts for Scream Aim Fire and Pulse of the Maggots_
yep, they sure did
Operation ground and pound
I get why you'd say that, but no
harmonix had the worst ttfaf chart tho
@@yelazyyI know this was forever ago but yeah, they just tried to make RB3 flames as hard as possible
If you pirate game, you’ll get a creepy screen and you get sent to jail for five years
People seem so afraid of piracy of this kind-of thing like the feds are gonna come knocking on the door or something. Completely understand that Abandonware is a big grey area, but it doesn't seem to have caused any big legal issues at the moment (at least any I know of). The company ain't gonna care to keep sellin', so take it in your own hands.
Just man up and go to the high seas
@Remy Yeah. I should've used the term "Abandonware" instead of piracy outright, but like I mentioned, Abandonware is a big grey area and might still be seen as piracy in the legal system.
We are here. Bring back my goddamn DLC. Imiss all of these
If acai goes for Rockband DLC and FC’s all the rockband 4 dlc I’m screwed.
Imma be watching him pass all my fc’s
Im at 1364 and he’s gonna pass me with ease
i just peeped the halo theme recording video, and my face is sufficiently melted. steve vai's always been one of my favs
Been a blast watching you go back through all these! Another great vid , keep pushing bro 💪 🤘
Woooo part 2 being out might be the only thing keeping me from morbin'
Man, these are just so fun to watch
9:10
“This Guitar Hero 3 DLC chart of the Halo Theme? It’s uh… it’s NOT GOOD.”
Anthony Fantano moment
loving the console content. seeing these games in the spotlight is so awesome. GH3's xbox hopo engine is pretty awesome but man strumming awkward bursts of strums or fast bursts of strums is so scary cause its so easy to over strum lmfao.
This. Even if it's Neversoft engines, still underrated as all hell in this age of CH.
the bit at 7:10 made my ass fall of that was funny, Good Job Acai
just commenting because this content got me back into your channel. not a fan of the mashups and stuff but this progression is cool. just commenting to boost algorithm
Thank you for the honesty
If it's not available anymore, then yeah, pirate that shit, man! 😅😆👌🏻 ol master cheeks! I love that video with steve vai just jammin out and just doing an improv session! Such a cool video! I love all the making of and behind the scenes stuff for all the halo games! Love halo! Good stuff! 😎👍🏻
13:24 When Alec attempts to FC "The Devil Went Down To Georgia" anyway.
These charts walked so that better charters could run. The proof is in all the recharts that people have made over the years.
Holy fucking shit dude I was vibing to the guitar battle, slowly drifting to sleep, and then you screamed "YES!!" in my ear and I jumped lmao
why is too much problem on pirating something that isn't possible to get anymore? I mean, is practically abandonware at this point... unless they remaster the GH3 with DLCs in a new GH engine... but we know that's never gonna happen (praying everyday for this to happen, tbh)
For all of Rockstar's faults at least they recognize this and make some of their older games available for free
Kinda glad to know that a lot of GH3’s DLC had ass charts. I thought i just sucked lmao
I only ever played the PS2 versions of GH until I got a 360 in like, 2012 and even then never got the games like in 2017 or so. I'm pissed that you can't even legally buy the dlc.
Jesus 300+ more songs on GH? Imagine then doing Rock Band, that’s over 4k DLC
Subbed man! These console runs have been awesome to watch!
Nice to see more console GH videos. Are you going to follow GuitarHeroROXS’s footsteps and go for WT-WoR DLC at some point?
Edit: Never mind, you mentioned 300+ songs you still had left to FC, so I can’t wait for you to eventually tackle them!
i'm working on GHWT dlc on my streams at the moment!
@@acai28 Oh, shit, I’m excited to hear that! Can’t wait to see Electro Rock and Sacrifice! 🙏🏽
@@acai28 Hella excited to see you keep going on this! Super proud of you
@@acai28 I could only imagine the undertaking if that also included all RB songs and DLC.
I had a dream, acai teaching guitar/clone hero on skillshare
really enjoy these types of videos they're nice to watch
For real, the only way to get the dlc anymore is to download it online on PC. It’s the easiest way.
"This chart is NOT GOOD" - Sickothony Modetano
Slash guitar battle was hell for me but at the same time I felt badass so it was a 50/50...God I hated the battle with Satan..
I can't tell if there being an official Halo Theme track is cursed or glorious. Probably both.
I literally have a 360 slim with every DLC pack on what i thought was my massive 250 gb hard drive. Selling for $2500 lmk game included. :'D
Way back before I got any GH game for myself I played the Halo theme as someone's house on Easy. Having no determination to continue playing a song if I couldn't hit all the notes I thought Guitar Hero kinda sucked. (I was clearly not open to music game sat the time. Also I'm not sure the game was well calibrated, like I knew how to do that in '07.) I came back to this game so hard after learning that Operation Ground and Pound by Dragonforce was a DLC song. It took years but I was so darn happy when I was good enough to pass OGAP on Expert.
these vids have been amazing, keep it up dawg.
Do you have any video and audio calibration enabled? if so, what are they and did it help you hit notes better on PC?
my audio lag on pc was 150ms and my video was my response time on my monitor at the time so like 5ms
@@acai28 Ok sick! Yeah feels bad going ham in CH and then to GH3 and you miss 85% of the solos in Cult of Personality LMAO! Thanks broski.
ahhhh man! Halo MJOLNIR mix as a download, Hier Kommt Alex as a bonus song... I fucking loved GH3 and I still have a lot of the dlc on my 360. I do feel slightly cheated though, only realizing now they apparently had stuff like No Doubt and Dropkick Murphy's as dlc too :D
Why do people care so much about playing this legally. The game is 20 years old. It made its money. RELAX.
I still have GH3 on 360, but I don't have all the paid DLC. If I'm remembering correctly, I have all the free ones, if not, most of the free ones.
Looks like the really truly bad charting took a small break, but you can only rest for so long knowing Ernten Was Wir Saen is looming in the distance.
For Abandonware, pull a British Museum and just call it 'Preservation.'
2:25 Yup... Exactly the reason why I just resort to my Xplorer for GH3PC
Im really enjoying these videos
It’s amazing to go on this nostalgia trip
i genuinely miss these horrible overcharts, they bring me so much nostalgia
Is the sync on the Slash Guitar Battle supposed to be like that? It looks so wrong but I guess it could be considered "accurate"?
That slash solo wow 🤯
Bro that "Marilyn Manson" song is fucked. idk what it is about it but I just can't do that pattern at all even on whale pussy clone hero. Another awesome vid. love seeing you go through all these official games
Slash’s battle is probably my favorite tbh
The Grind is real
One of my old Xbox 360 have some downloaded songs on GH3 on it. Only the free ones like the battle ones, Halo theme, I am murloc and We three kings.
Can’t wait for the HAROO
Love the videos
Stay morbin my friends
I was here for these.
Can’t wait for surfing with the alien
My fav you playing clone hero is you playing rush e in 2018 i really love your vids hope you can make more videos and rush f was my fav music in sheet music boss and sheet music boss made this! Hope you have a good day fan of acai :)
Im in vietnamese and you are popular i subscribed to you
Meanwhile in the future, the wii shop is back open and you can now get the dlc legit again
Yeah lemme know if GH3 has DLC on Wii 💀
World Tour/5/Warriors of Rock got you
You look like you have a kidney stone in the thumbnail😂😂😂
E-10deeznuts is lurking. show yourself!
I played gh arcade and the strum bar was HEAVY ASH like jeez I was only playing hard diff and it was hurting to play
the second rock band 1 came out, i could never play smash hits or ghiii and before ever again
harmonix is the only ones who can make charts
this is an example of 60hz genocide
GH3 is a really nice engine, at least playing it more than anything. Which honestly Aerosmith just might be what is needed, that is actually great [in comparison] its just gotta enjyo Aerosmith which for me, i like the game. Shame no patch or any kind of backwards engineering happened to try to port some of the A quirks to 3.
The version of the halo theme in this always felt like it came from one of those low-effort custom discs
I have a sort of vague understanding of why you're saying the charting is bad, but I couldn't put my finger on exactly what's bad about it I'd be interested if you wanted to go in depth and explain for a video!
I'm mostly speaking as someone who just likes rhythm games and music a lot, and not someone with a ton of GH experience, so take what I say with a huge grain of salt!
But from my understanding of it, there's kind of an art to taking a real world guitar performance and translating that down to 5 buttons+strumming. Because the guitar is so much more complicated and chords exist on not just one but two axis (up and down the neck as well as across the strings) there's a good amount of variety in how a chart could choose to represent chords and chord progressions that go beyond the limits of the five buttons.
Charting is also a balancing act between 'accurate' and 'fun', where sometimes you have to trade off accuracy to make the experience more enjoyable and/or less fatiguing. But overall, you're generally aiming for something that's at least intuitive, where the player can roughly guess what the next notes are going to be based on the song. For example, they'll know that if the notes coming up are lower than what you've been playing, they're going to be more to the left. If you're already too far left on the board? You can expect that this new section is going to shift somewhere new (emulating moving your hand on the neck of the guitar) but once established, the following notes will stay consistent for as long as possible.
The problem with a lot of the charts in these videos is that whoever charted them made some really weird decisions that break the implied rules set up by the main and other games. They didn't pick a range to stick to it and will instead just shift around randomly, leading to moments where a note is low in the song but played high on the board out of nowhere, and only for that one note. As a result they're unintuitive and hard to predict, which turns them into a guessing game instead of a test of skill. They also just feel less fun to play, because they don't satisfy the expectations set up by the music. Your brain expects one thing and you give it something totally different, which is frustrating.
Additionally, the songs are often overcharted, which is when the chart has either done a bad job of balancing the fun by focusing too much on accuracy, or the chart requires you to strum more than what is actually even in the song. You end up with an experience that's almost an endurance test where it's hard just for the sake of being hard, and not because it's fun or interesting or compelling.
(Apologies to anyone who knows better than me if anything I've said here is totally off or missing something obvious.)
@@Potassiumkloride interesting, thanks for the detailed comment!
for someone working on their first chart im glad that i know what not to do now
(5:48) 12 year old me liked that.
I forgot half of these existed. And I wish I didn't remember the others tbh that charting is so scuffed.
love yours vids , where you buy your guitare ?
Acai: Man, these charts suck
Me, who has no idea why they suck: Yes, quite. I agree wholeheartedly. I am very cultured.
Carcinogen Crush, nice
Congrats on being a father
Acai lookin cute af no homo
HAROO Incoming
Wait how do you have the God of War song on Xbox????? I have an RGH and had no idea that was even possible
EntireMorbius
I bet you half the chat moaning bout Pirating have a Emulator with Pokemon FireRed on their Laptop
Or play clone hero with official GH charts
Wait is the halo one actually added in officially?
So does anyone know if there's any none fishy ways of buying a PC port of guitar hero without the guitar?
How are you going to do the PS3 exclusive God of War song DLC when on 360?
Yes, I have it ported to 360
@@acai28 Way easier than buying a modded PS3 just for a single exclusive DLC lol.
HEY HI HELLO
I’m like one of 5 people that likes the Nick Zinner Manson remix
It sounds like a stripper song idk
change up the arena/place to like the 4th 6th 7th or 8th, their better btw
This happened 2 weeks ago you're gonna have to wait maybe 1 or 2 more videos for a venue change lol
Hey Acai can you FC Rush E?
Why can't Acai do Devil Went Down To Georgia? I don't get it
I already got it in 2016 and I'm not doing it again
My friend keeps sending me the morbius gif on discord
dj hero full game fc when
not the focus rn
@@acai28 right now 👀so it might be happening later? I think that’d be a pretty funny video
@@bluegamingyt7999 Just forget it,he's not going to do it anyway...look for another youtuber dude,just an advice
Are you playing this on pc if so how the controller barely works you press green and it strums orange
1. He is playing this on a real but modified Xbox 360
2. If you press green and it strums orange, that means something is wrong with your Guitar Controller, the problem is that the game doesn't pick up your controller as a Guitar, but instead it's just a Standard Controller, on PC you can use program called X360CE
The Tom Morello one is pure cancer
haroo incoming
is there any way to pirate the DLC for GH3 on PS3? I have a modded ps3 and can already play backups with DLC but I can't find GH3 PS3 DLC files.
absolute jammers with awful charting? MY FAVORITE!
W
I agree that pirating sucks but if there is literally no other option then what are ya gonna do? It’s like like you’re doing it for BG3 or DMC5 or something. Guitar Hero 3 is long abandoned.
Regular career game note speed please:-)
did u move to a different part of ur house?
I turned my desk 90 degrees
good luck with this one, lol
What about the god of war chart on ps3?
I have it on Xbox