Thanks Peter. I'll be honest, at the time the Sony A7RIV was the favourite on paper but when I picked it up I scraped my knuckles on the lenses because they flair out sharply from the lens mount (apparently it is a common piece of feedback). The fpL is NOT an allround camera though. If I was trying to photograph the cats playing in the garden then it would be useless. As a landscapers tool, it just ticks that box! Hope you are keeping well sir
Interesting. Both images turned out well I think. I admire how you really study and take advantage of the different camera features to get the effect you are happy with, and then share what you have learned in the process.
Thanks Juanita. Most kind. This ISO feature was one of my purchase reasons, however I didn’t become aware of the “cost” until I actually used it. It does have its place in my workflow though despite the minor timing issue.
I think the second shot looks just a little better. Sounds a bit like the love ND filter on my olympus. Don't know if you ever used that before. I can use and love nd filter up to nd 64 and it works great. The camera basically stacks multiple shots together but the advantage is an insane dynamic range. Nice video and great location. Grt guido
Hello Guido. I think it works in exactly the same way as the Olympus live ND, although I'm not sure about any increase in dynamic range as a result. I found the live ND uncomfortable to use as the screen image shifts with the scene, although I think there may be an option to disable the simulation. Still it is a handy feature to have if you are out and have forgotten your ND filters (yep, happened to me :) ). Hope you are keeping well sir
@@huwalban I agree on the simulation. Luckely you can disable it. At least on my om-1 ik not sure about the earlier models. Yep happend to me to but most times it just comes down to being to lazy to get the real filter. Or for example when I use my 7-14 that doesn't fit any filters at all. Grt guido
@@GuidoVanDeWater You can get a 7-14 filter adapter. Check out this link - www.philnortonphotography.co.uk/714-adapter-details.html - I've used it and it does the job perfectly. I sold my 7-14 on ages ago because is it a heft piece of glass and I rarely go wider that 12mm. Have a good day sir
Sometimes I am put only with FPL and tripod and I run into a scenery for a long exposure, for that its great. And I use a bunch of vintage glass on my FPL and sometimes there are no filter holders, yet I still can take long exposure. But just for the pinch. Proper landscape needs proper filters. At the end the low ISO is still a stitched photo
Completely agree. It is a handy feature to have, and I know that the Olympus OM-D system has something similar. If I have the time, then like you I'd always resort to a "proper" filter to slow things down. Thanks for watching and the support.
Hello there. Many thanks for your very kind feedback. I am sorry but no, focus bracketing is not something I've ever tried. I have to be honest that at apertures of f/8 or f/11 etc modern lenses these days as so good that I've never had a problem with depth of focus in the landscape so haven't felt the need to resort to such a technique.
@@huwalban fair enough, but I do suggest you try it especially if you print. If you have a point of interest in the very close foreground with a very wide angle lens. I used to do it with my X1D for some amazing details in the prints. Unfortunately, no subjects nearby for me to try it on the FP-L I only have it a week and bought it only for landscape. Hence my question I guess I will have to get out!
@@kenmonahan9924 Thanks Ken. It is quite rare for me to use a very wide lens so this is maybe why it is something that I've not necessarily encountered. However, I will keep the notion in my head and perhaps deliberately have a play sometime just in case ;) Thanks again
The low ISO feature is certainly one aspect of the FP that attracts me. But presumably, it works like the built-in ND filters in the recent Olympus/OMDS cameras, effectively just attenuating the signal from the sensor? So the question is, does that impinge on dynamic range? Or does it affect noise levels?
Hello Alan. I am pretty sure that the low ISO feature works in exactly the same way as the live ND on the Olympus system. I’ve not noticed any noise issues when using ISO6 and of course the sensor in the fpL has so much dynamic range that I’ve not encountered any detrimental issues. Not sure about the sensor in the fp though as I’m aware that it is a lower resolution than the fpL. Thanks for the support sir
Hi Huw, glad to see you getting some good use of this feature. I use it quite a lot as well, and have some observations to share. I believe the camera actually captures a series of images each at a faster shutter speed and at ISO100 and then blends them to create the final image. This extra processing consumes battery, so a second part of the price you pay is a reduction in battery life. My other observation is that at times the blending of the images isn’t quite as smooth as would occur in a single longer exposure. Thankfully, this is a rare occurrence in my experience. As always, a nicely done and very useful video; cheers!
I believe you are spot on! And yes I’m aware that this software blending can produce artefacts but as per your experience they have not been an issue for me. It is a choice isn’t it? Take the hit on battery life or faff with filters - either way I still enjoy using this system in the landscape. Thanks for the continued support.
ISO 6 on May 6th, very apt, interesting experiment but I see little point in having that function if the same results can be achieved with more conventional methods, is the detail in the ISO 6 pictures actually any better than ISO 100? As this feature is not something that the major players have incorporated into their high end cameras I suspect it us of little value, but thanks for the interesting demonstration 👍
Ha ha, I didn't even twig the date thing until you pointed it out! Olympus have something similar called the Live ND. I guess it is handy to have if you are in a hurry or want a long shutter speed but have left your filter set at home. I use longer shutter speeds a lot, and it was one of the features that most attracted me to the Sigma system from the outset, hence me investing time in having a good old play with it. Thanks as ever for your kind support of my channel
thx a lot for the explanations.. what I miss are direct (sharpness/contrast comparisons), also cannot find the original pics.... oh, pardon please: they were integrated in the low res clip.. that doesn't replay help. nevertheless: 👍👍
Hello there. Only the processed images have been included, and not the RAWs. In terms of sharpness/contrast I can detect no difference between an image using a ND filter and and image using ISO6. If there are differences then they are so slight as to be marginal. Hope this is of help to you.
Yeah, I tend to take this approach on most trips, I.e. go somewhere and then use the occasion to create a selection of content. I’m back near Wastwater in September and already have an extensive list of potential video ideas to start to work through. Unfortunately I cannot get out every week so this approach means that I can maintain a publishing schedule and not be suddenly in need of a new video idea.
I see no problem there. You would need much more time to put on an ND filter and calculate the exposures needed. Many landscape photographers out there shooting with other make cameras would kill to get such an option in their arsenal. Enjoy!
That camera truly is unique. I admire your conscious decision to eschew mainstream choices.
Thanks Peter. I'll be honest, at the time the Sony A7RIV was the favourite on paper but when I picked it up I scraped my knuckles on the lenses because they flair out sharply from the lens mount (apparently it is a common piece of feedback). The fpL is NOT an allround camera though. If I was trying to photograph the cats playing in the garden then it would be useless. As a landscapers tool, it just ticks that box! Hope you are keeping well sir
Thank you for sharing insights and landscape and just some nice to watch technology video, as well as your happy presence 😊
Awww, thank you. That is very kind. Yes, I had a really good trip when that video was recorded. Hoping to go back there in 2025.
Interesting. Both images turned out well I think. I admire how you really study and take advantage of the different camera features to get the effect you are happy with, and then share what you have learned in the process.
Thanks Juanita. Most kind. This ISO feature was one of my purchase reasons, however I didn’t become aware of the “cost” until I actually used it. It does have its place in my workflow though despite the minor timing issue.
What an interesting feature and a great demo. It’s an intriguing camera.
I think the second shot looks just a little better. Sounds a bit like the love ND filter on my olympus. Don't know if you ever used that before. I can use and love nd filter up to nd 64 and it works great. The camera basically stacks multiple shots together but the advantage is an insane dynamic range. Nice video and great location. Grt guido
Hello Guido. I think it works in exactly the same way as the Olympus live ND, although I'm not sure about any increase in dynamic range as a result. I found the live ND uncomfortable to use as the screen image shifts with the scene, although I think there may be an option to disable the simulation. Still it is a handy feature to have if you are out and have forgotten your ND filters (yep, happened to me :) ). Hope you are keeping well sir
@@huwalban I agree on the simulation. Luckely you can disable it. At least on my om-1 ik not sure about the earlier models. Yep happend to me to but most times it just comes down to being to lazy to get the real filter. Or for example when I use my 7-14 that doesn't fit any filters at all. Grt guido
@@GuidoVanDeWater You can get a 7-14 filter adapter. Check out this link - www.philnortonphotography.co.uk/714-adapter-details.html - I've used it and it does the job perfectly. I sold my 7-14 on ages ago because is it a heft piece of glass and I rarely go wider that 12mm. Have a good day sir
Sometimes I am put only with FPL and tripod and I run into a scenery for a long exposure, for that its great. And I use a bunch of vintage glass on my FPL and sometimes there are no filter holders, yet I still can take long exposure. But just for the pinch. Proper landscape needs proper filters. At the end the low ISO is still a stitched photo
Completely agree. It is a handy feature to have, and I know that the Olympus OM-D system has something similar. If I have the time, then like you I'd always resort to a "proper" filter to slow things down. Thanks for watching and the support.
Nice vid thanks! What about focus bracketing Huw have you tried that?
Hello there. Many thanks for your very kind feedback. I am sorry but no, focus bracketing is not something I've ever tried. I have to be honest that at apertures of f/8 or f/11 etc modern lenses these days as so good that I've never had a problem with depth of focus in the landscape so haven't felt the need to resort to such a technique.
@@huwalban fair enough, but I do suggest you try it especially if you print. If you have a point of interest in the very close foreground with a very wide angle lens. I used to do it with my X1D for some amazing details in the prints. Unfortunately, no subjects nearby for me to try it on the FP-L I only have it a week and bought it only for landscape. Hence my question I guess I will have to get out!
@@kenmonahan9924 Thanks Ken. It is quite rare for me to use a very wide lens so this is maybe why it is something that I've not necessarily encountered. However, I will keep the notion in my head and perhaps deliberately have a play sometime just in case ;) Thanks again
The low ISO feature is certainly one aspect of the FP that attracts me. But presumably, it works like the built-in ND filters in the recent Olympus/OMDS cameras, effectively just attenuating the signal from the sensor? So the question is, does that impinge on dynamic range? Or does it affect noise levels?
Hello Alan. I am pretty sure that the low ISO feature works in exactly the same way as the live ND on the Olympus system. I’ve not noticed any noise issues when using ISO6 and of course the sensor in the fpL has so much dynamic range that I’ve not encountered any detrimental issues. Not sure about the sensor in the fp though as I’m aware that it is a lower resolution than the fpL. Thanks for the support sir
Hi Huw, glad to see you getting some good use of this feature. I use it quite a lot as well, and have some observations to share. I believe the camera actually captures a series of images each at a faster shutter speed and at ISO100 and then blends them to create the final image. This extra processing consumes battery, so a second part of the price you pay is a reduction in battery life. My other observation is that at times the blending of the images isn’t quite as smooth as would occur in a single longer exposure. Thankfully, this is a rare occurrence in my experience. As always, a nicely done and very useful video; cheers!
I believe you are spot on! And yes I’m aware that this software blending can produce artefacts but as per your experience they have not been an issue for me. It is a choice isn’t it? Take the hit on battery life or faff with filters - either way I still enjoy using this system in the landscape. Thanks for the continued support.
ISO 6 on May 6th, very apt, interesting experiment but I see little point in having that function if the same results can be achieved with more conventional methods, is the detail in the ISO 6 pictures actually any better than ISO 100? As this feature is not something that the major players have incorporated into their high end cameras I suspect it us of little value, but thanks for the interesting demonstration 👍
Ha ha, I didn't even twig the date thing until you pointed it out! Olympus have something similar called the Live ND. I guess it is handy to have if you are in a hurry or want a long shutter speed but have left your filter set at home. I use longer shutter speeds a lot, and it was one of the features that most attracted me to the Sigma system from the outset, hence me investing time in having a good old play with it. Thanks as ever for your kind support of my channel
thx a lot for the explanations.. what I miss are direct (sharpness/contrast comparisons), also cannot find the original pics.... oh, pardon please: they were integrated in the low res clip.. that doesn't replay help. nevertheless: 👍👍
Hello there. Only the processed images have been included, and not the RAWs. In terms of sharpness/contrast I can detect no difference between an image using a ND filter and and image using ISO6. If there are differences then they are so slight as to be marginal. Hope this is of help to you.
... actually I was hoping that the iso 6 photos were better in terms of sharpness and contrast - compared to the non coated filter...
You are certainly getting a lot of UA-cam mileage from that day at Wastwater! 🙂
Yeah, I tend to take this approach on most trips, I.e. go somewhere and then use the occasion to create a selection of content. I’m back near Wastwater in September and already have an extensive list of potential video ideas to start to work through. Unfortunately I cannot get out every week so this approach means that I can maintain a publishing schedule and not be suddenly in need of a new video idea.
I see no problem there. You would need much more time to put on an ND filter and calculate the exposures needed. Many landscape photographers out there shooting with other make cameras would kill to get such an option in their arsenal. Enjoy!
All fair points :)