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Top 5 Problems Acura TL Sedan 3rd Generation 2004-08
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These are the top 5 problems with the 3rd generation Acura TL, which is available as model years 2004 to 2008. In this video, Andy explains the top problems you might find or want to watch out for if you own or are shopping for an Acura TL. He also gives tips on how you can identify and fix those problems yourself!
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0:00 Top 5 Problems Acura TL 3rd Generation 2004-08
0:12 Transmission (Automatic)
0:40 Control Arm bushings
1:17 Shock Absorbers
1:35 EGR Valve
2:01 Idle Air Control (IAC) Valve
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Just thought I'd add to this info for anyone looking at a 3rd gen TL.
1. Transmission: Yes, the automatic trans in the 04-06 model is significantly weaker than the 07-08. However, if the trans was taken care of with regular fluid changes, trans filter changes, and pressure switch changes, you should have no issues on a 04-06. The problem is finding a car where the previous owners actually cared enough to do this maintenance. (My 06 is at 230k miles on the original auto trans, working perfect).
2. Bushings: Yes, also a weak point. Usually torn on these cars, but not usually to the point of making the driving experience horrible.
3. Shocks: Not really applicable. The shocks and struts they used in this car are actually better quality than most of the other stuff Honda was putting out at the time. Kind of subjective given the specific car's history and how rough of terrain it's been over.
4. EGR & IAC: Not really sure where they got this info. There are hundreds of active users on the Acurazine forums, who have this exact car, and EGR & IAC are not components that are abnormally failing. These are not items you should typically have to worry about in this car.
There ARE a couple other major items that were not mentioned here. Biggest one affecting a vast majority of owners being the HandsFree Link (HFL) module causing a drain on your battery, leaving users with a dead car randomly. This is a very simple disconnect to prevent. Additionally, the infamous dash cracking is a design/manufacture flaw that will cause virtually all of the dashboards out there to crack at some point. There are covers to remedy this, because entire new dashboards are expensive and rare. There's other things that are less prevalent like axle failure/vibration and trim peeling, but overall, these cars are extremely solid if given simple maintenance. The hardest part now is finding a 15+ year old car that has been actually taken car of.
+Nate Blazek Thanks for the feedback!
I have a 06 TL automatic and my drive light has been blinking for over a year now. No issues with changing gears but when i come to a quick stop (like a rushed stop sign) and accelerate, it gives a small jerk to it. I took it to the dealer for a full inspection and let them know beforehand that the pressure switch was my main concern and they told me my 3rd pressure switch needs to be replaced for around 300$. I see them on ebay for around 10$ so idk if I should buy the 10$ switch myself and reset the transmission or just pay the 300$
No man, the early model transmission issue is a design problem, not something fluid change can help, in fact I did a 3 qt AT fluid change every other oil change, my transmission still crap out around 140K. During that time I have changed lots of thing under the hood too, except the engine lol. Let me count, transmission, power steering pump, alternator (may be partially due to bluetooth module drain), starter, passenger side engine mount bracket bolt teeth stripped. The engine is good, but this car is not that reliable, consumer report supports that too... And then there's lots of interior problem, like others had mentioned, dash cracking, bluetooth module battery drain, dash digital display light out (circuitboard issue), audio system statics when not warmed up(capacitor leaking), other small thing. I still like the car though
O6 Acura TL and just replaced the EGR valve, was stuck open abs caused rough idle, replaced and all was fine
I have an 07 TL and I would agree the most common problem I've read about (happened to me as well) was the hands free link draining the battery, but a simple disconnect solves the problem. I've also replaced the transmission safety switch and a couple gaskets on the inlet/outlet power steering lines and that is the extent of work besides oil/transmission fluid changes. It now has 98k miles and runs like a top---very reliable but I do proper maintenance ( flushes, coolant changes etc)
Cracking dashboards? That's a big one that you didn't mention
Yess , also cracking leather haha
I definitely agree, both of these cosmetic problems should have been listed in the video....not to mention the clear coat paint failure! Geez, Honda really stuck it to the 2004-2008 TL owners with the cosmetic failures.
At this point it's not a issue but a feature with how common it is
@@thefutureisnowoldman7653 that part... 😂 Lmao
@@thefutureisnowoldman7653 This is a parallel comment, as it CAN apply to ALL cars in which it has a had a history of SOMEONE treating the dash to ArmorAll. That stuff has silicon in it... looks 'nice a shiny' for a spell, but bonds with the surface... and INITIALIZES CRACKS. So... be aware... don't ever use that stuff on any dash or foam/plastico that will be seeing sunlight.
I've had an 04 for almost 2 years now and love it! Has over 400,000km now. To anyone buying one of these, I recommend going with an 07-08 because they did major transmission upgrades. Also replace the fluid pressure switches and do a full 3x3 fluid change.
what do you mean by 3x3 fluid change?
So there is 3 fluids in total
@@Ali.sos86 drain what's in the pan, drive maybe 50 or so mi give or take, repeat 2 more times to get most (not all) of the fluid out
Good to hear, I just bought an 05 and also love it, with 175,000kms. Ya I would love an ‘08 with the upgrades, maybe in a few years although I have no problem driving this one as long as she will go
Doing tune up and all these repairs right now. Tune up highly recommended for car. A full tune up. I'll come back and update how it drives after
Well how is it?
I have an acura TL with 200,000 miles and it's perfect. Greetings, thank you.
u never did trans fluid?
Lol
Fuck America
I’ve worked on these cars since 2004. I currently own an 08 type s 6 speed manual and I’ve never had to replace an EGR on this generation TL, never heard of them commonly going out and definitely never heard of the IAC as a common failure either. Not saying that they don’t go out, I’ve just never encountered one. The purge valve yes, upper and lower ball joints, yes.... engine mounts, power steering pumps, starters, oil leaking from the valve covers and oil pump housing, all very common.
My engine mounts keeps breaking what is causing that?
I love the car I am thinking of changing the transmission and front shocks to prolong the life of the car currently at 184460 I believe this car is very reliable even with these 5 issues it’s worth fixing when you start noticing the problem
My first Acura was a 2005 TL 5spd auto nothing bad to say was a very pleasant experience, bought it for $1000 Unfortunately someone I knew stole my car and when I recieved it back I just didn't want it and sold it.. kinda ruined my experience with the car couldn't live with the fact that it was stolen. My second car was a 2005 Acura tsx 6spd manual.. bought it for $500 sold it for $2000 the next day.. unfortunately didn't get to learn manual in that exact car. My third car was a 2003 CL Type S 5spd Auto bought it for $800 my first ever type s and coupe, this was the bulletproof car that I've owned and ran with even all the lights on dash transmission slipping, bought it at 200,000km drove it till 300,000km without any problems lmaooooo sold it for $1000 my current car is a 2004 Acura TL 6spd manual.. omg I love this car, the fact that the manual has brembos and the fact that I learnt to drive manual in it.. kinda brought back the memories from my 05 TL 5spd auto but much better experience. I'm glad I opted for only 2004-2005 because those years had 270hp whilst the 2006-2008 had 256hp and trust me it is a noticeable difference. Wish me luck on my next car 2008 TL type S 6spd!!
The horsepower didn't change in that generation of TL's. The way that it was being measured was the change. Obviously the the '07-'08 Type S have more, because they are a 3.5L instead of a 3.2
I had a 2007 TL Type S, loved it. And it did have the drive by wire throttle body problem.
And the Brembos required replacement more often.
If u can find a manual trans, u wont need to worry about any major mechanical issues. Ive heard and experienced nothing but good on the engine and standard manual trans. I have 190k miles on my 06 tl. Plus the manual received break and suspension upgrades including a LSD, which the automatic did not. I think lower ball joints are also a common problem: they can break and this does have a timing belt that needs to be replaced. It Was about a 700 dollar job at my shop.
I have a 2004 Acura TL with only 35K miles so the fact that the miles driven are so low probably accounts for why I haven't experienced any of these problems. I bought the car new 17 years ago and like the V-6 engine so much compared to the tinny sounding 4 cylinder sedans that dominate today's modern passenger sedans.
old rubber parts (3x engine, 3x tranny mounts) deteriorate by year not mileage alone.
Same thing with grease lubricant that evaporates (HVAC AirMix Door sensor faults)...
I have 04TL@150kMi: I like it far better than my newer German money pit
👍
35k miles is new for these
If you ever want to sell her I’d be more than happy to buy it from you!! I’m as serious as can be. This is my email in case you’re interested, priscillaaguirre87@gmail.com
06 with 200k miles, disconnect the Bluetooth module, snapped driver side axle, motor mounts replaced, front sway bar links changed, but none of the issues included here. My suspension is still all original.
Edit: forgot to mention the intermediate shaft bearing that seems to be a common problem on TLs and many other Honda and Acura models.
Well he isn’t lying I’m having these exact same problems now !
Hey 1Aauto I just wanted to say thanks for all the vids they really do help on choosing a vehicle 👍 . Can you guys make a video of a 2003 Nissan Maxima and it’s top problems PLEASE!!!
Thank you José.Tenezaca
+Jose Tenezaca We're always cycling through common cars. We'll add this repair to our list! 1aau.to/m/Shop-1AAuto-c
I have a 2006 TL that I bought new with 160K and had to replace my transmission. Bought a JDM locally and had it installed for under 2K. Motor mounts. Valve cover gasket. Struts. Alternator.
the transmission issue is related to the soft shift feature creating heat. adding a transmission cooler can solve the problem. and most defiantly fluid change is going extend the life of any automatic tranmsission.
May have 211 no problem with transmission good running
04-06 have a weak transmission IF YOU DINT TAKE CARE OF IT. The 07-08’ are more reliable.
Ironically the smaller brother TSX is bulletproof all years, those go up to 300k miles +
My 06 TL 365,000km. Manual transmission is great lol
Key word manual
Manuals get the sexy Brembo brakes
Lair
@@CRAPO2011 type s don’t matter if it’s a stick
You guys should add one more the this list (front, passenger, & rear engine mounts go bad every 2-4 years)
The years that have the bad transmissions are 04-06...07-08 are a lot better.
Absolutely correct.. I can’t believe these mechanics don’t know their years 🤦🏻♂️
Great
I have o5 my transmission is done
I’ve heard the 06 07 v6 accord transmission is a common replacement for the 04-06 tl. Is this true? My transmission just went on my 2005 tl with 130,000.
Yea I've had my 06 for 8 months and the trans is acting up might have to get a new one😡😡
Much appreciated if you guys also post a second generation Acura RDX Top 5 Problems. Thank you very much and more power to 1A Auto.
I have a 2005 TL 3.2l with 74k , I have all these problems except for 1 he mentioned because previous owner neglected the car 🤦♂️, love the car, just trying to find out how to fix hard shifting at 2/ to 3 rpm on and off
Thanks, those are not real bad problems.
I had problems with the IAC valve on my 02 Toyota Avalon too
I just wish they would have made way more type-s of those years they are the best looking TL of all time and also the stick ones where way better then the auto to
well today on the highway the VSA light kicked in along with the triangle ! light.. whats different about my situation is that its as if the traction control was on and wouldnt let me accelerate past 3k rpms .. i had to very slowly get back up to highway speed just to make it to an exit. Turned the car off and let it sit which fixed the problem, reason for the post is now this is the 2nd time this happened this week
Huh John Malkovich is a jack of all trades I see.
I got a 2006 model and recently have been having trouble with the car losing power changed transmission fluid flushed coolant added additive to engine and have been running additive’s aswell to clean engine and tips?
Take a minute to point out how along you guys camera quality has came 😭. Str8 glass now💯
+QP Flicks Thanks for the feedback, we are happy it is this clear now as well!
I’ve had two of them and motor mounts have gone on them. Great car but both had the same problem
Hell yea love 1a and been using it for my wife's mazda 6. Imagine my surprise to see my own car up here!
Please release all the TL videos!
Just replaced motor mounts in an 07 today. They were completely broken into separate pieces. 215k miles though 👍
+Kami Kiramaru We're always cycling through common cars. We'll add this repair to our list! 1aau.to/m/Shop-1AAuto-c
@@1AAuto We just replaced a motor mount on a 2006 with 236k, thanks for the videos
You missed the parasitic drain on the battery, as well as the bad brush in the ignition system. However, if I could have this car back, I would. On my 2016 Acura TLX, it's facing a major recall for a bad crankshaft and bearings. It's like a nightmare. It just keeps getting worse. Maybe time to go to Lexus.
I have a bad vacuumed Part to the throttle body, no malfunction but I can hear air hissing
Very helpful video 👍🏼
3rd generation acura owners, can the drivers door window control switch be removed by just popping it up from it's position or do you have to take the entire door panel off to access it?
#6 timing belt tensor goes out and causes rattle on cold start.
Awesome video!
Cool and thanks for sharing.
I’ve had to replace my ballasts/igniters/headlights a lot.
I have the same color and already replaced transmission love these cars you have to do more maintenance to the trans than the dealership wants you too or recommend.
I’m saving up to buy a new car really considering this one
How do you clean the electronic idle air control valve??
Any one has issues with door locking when doors are shut with vehicle engine is running in park?
On my 2010tl acura when I let go of the gas pedal I notice the car pulls back a couple times or slows down what could this be ? Thank you
Engine mounts are another problem area.
great video
I own both 3rd gen and 4th gen TLs with manual transmissions. I like my 3rd gen but it's not even on the same league as my 2011 6MT SH-AWD!
4th gen is underrated! Awesome you got a manual one. Kinda rare in its own way
U ever had transmission problems?
My gas pedal just broke... smh do I need an oem pedal to fix it? It broke off at the base. Didn't realize it was a floating pedal until now.
My only problems were cracking dashboard and those shitty seats tearing
I'd like to add, deteriorated air boot which leaks and allows dust and debri in. Seem it twice for that year engine. Also, 2005 dash looks worse than a cracked and dried up Salton Sea!
180K on 2005 6M. Have had none of those problems (ok, a couple of sets of control arms but bushing failure at 50K is normal).
Design problems on the lower arm... ball joint will snapped
Why does my 2005 acura shut itself off giving no indication if any prroblem
I haven't had any of them go bad on my 05 TL
Do You have automatic transmission
me either 265 km no issues
I did the intake manifold on my Ford F-150 but I didn’t use a torque wrench. And it’s misfiring is that my issue am I required to torque it to specs?
+Crazymc3 We wouldn't be able to diagnose an issue like that here, you may want to have a local mechanic take a look at it. Thanks for checking us out! 1aau.to/m/Shop-1AAuto-c
Replace your CRANKCASE BREATHER ( PCV)... it's making your mixture randomly more LEAN than computer expects it: lean misfire, reduced low rpm power...
compare to other cars from this time period id say its not bad at all
Doesnt the homelink module in these go bad and start draining the battery.
Yea it’s easy to remove
It’s the HFL (Hands Free Link). I believe homelink is the garage opener which shouldn’t be an issue.
Hey I recently ordered parts for my town car from.you guys and the box was pretty beat up..loose and parts were hanging out. I emailed customer support and haven't received an email back. I still haven't opened the box. I'm waiting to hear back from you. I bought Tie Rods I'm not sure how much they weigh but the box seemed pretty light.
+Lambochaser We would be happy to assist you directly thru customer service
White on black, bone stock, pristine condition, one previous owner, 2007 Acura TL Type-S currently 48,000 miles and 0 of these issues.
+Lukasz P Thanks for checking us out! 1aau.to/m/Shop-1AAuto-c
If I was you I'd play the lotto lol
If you ever want to sell it, I’ll be interested in buying from you.
Hey 1a autos please can you do a 2009-2015 Mitsubishi Lancer
+DawaahTube We're always cycling through common cars. We'll add this repair to our list! 1aau.to/m/Shop-1AAuto-c
Are the AWD models transverse mounted motors, or longitudinal? I’ve always thought these would make awesome drift cars when we eventually run out of S series Nissans.
The 04-08 didn’t come in a sh-awd only 09 and on I believe
Front wheel drive they didn’t make the AWD till 4th generation
Yes V6, SH-AWD, transverse mounted. No not good drift cars, but I love mine to death!
When someone tries to sell me 04-08 100k mileage Acura TL and tell me engine runs strong and no mechanical issues. It is automatically a red flag. Why? because at 100k if the owner didn't change the water pump, timing belt, idle tensioner bearings, hydraulic tensioner, drive belt, spark plugs, coil packs, plenum gaskets, lower intake gaskets, valve cover and tube seals and or didn't do a valve adjustment I would have to barter with the person on price.
People often think that parts can run past their intended mileage and that is not true. If you didn't do any of the above and you are selling me your car with the intention I am getting a great deal I would have to tell you that you are incorrect on the asking price. Proper maintenance can maintain the value of the selling price and poor maintenance calls for bartering.
Lower intake gaskets are mls they are reusable
It amazed me how they go generation to generation with different problems not only this. Cars but the hondaa accord up to the 9 generetaion with different problems. Either they are stupid not efficient . Or doit in purpose so you keep bringing them to the dealer .
I have owned 3 of these and one with nearly 200k miles and no transmission problems whatsoever in any of them and I find it laughable they added it here. I disagree with all of these except for all the bushings problems. I will also say this generation also has problems with rear wheel well body rot - I personally think it's a design flaw. I will also say that 2 of mine had APP units go bad at just about the 125k mark. 2 of mine also had a small leak in the oil right above the pan it is a pain to get to and unless it's really pissing on you just pay attention to the level. The other big thing I see on the boards is power steering pump but I didn't experience that in any of my vehicles.
+Cupitor Veritatis Thanks for the feedback!
@@1AAuto no thank you...I like the vids...keep em coming...
Alot of times it's not even the pump that goes bad but the hoses themselves tend to crack and break due to the high heat the J series gives off
Hi, I have a 2012 TSX Special edition with 108 miles on it and when I drive slow and gear changes I can feel a little vibration on the gas pedal. Not always but sometimes. Do you have any idea what it might be?
It does that on my 04 tl too and I looked it up and a lot of people said it was normal I guess 🤷🏾♂️ but it seems like it does it in 3rd gear
Probably shudder from the torque converter in the trans. Some say changing the DW1 trans fluid makes it go away.
Sounds like a motor mount, probably the rear.. Either the vacuum hose on the bottom of the mount broke or the mount collapsed or broke. I’d try flushing the transmission fluid first though. Lack of maintenance can cause that as well.
This same rule applies for the 2002 model
Look at a Acura lt 05 with 53,000 but automatic what yall thing ?
I have an 06 and i'm getting rid of it. It literally has ALL of these problems, but I aint made cause it taught me a lot about cars and that I should research a car first before buying another
+Serious Joker Thanks for the feedback!
Well you should've taken care of your car and not neglect it
Any car that is from 2006 is going to need something in the suspension fixed, ball joints and bushings don't last the life of the car. The only mistake you made was not knowing Honda's from 1998-2006 have the worst automatic transmissions of Honda's history
@@TheDerrty111 I got it second hand smart ass.
@@Carlos-yz5kz yeah i agree i should have done more research especially since i got it second hand off of a female who knew nothing about cars. I was young and excited about my first car. I learned a lot from it tho so i'm not mad
Transmission Transmission Transmission
Woo 5 problems and i have 5 years whit my acura and i dont have eny of the the 5 problems mines are diferens in the same car ' like de ligth vsa and the speed sensor
Issue NO 1 is battery drain, almost everyone has or had this problem.
+BartekWSH WSH Thanks for the feedback!
I have it, removed HFL. Still have a drain….😩
My cat doesn't leak at all, rebuilt trans, but my dash is cracked to all heck
I have a 2008 I bought in 2012 with 74,000 miles it has 243000 now on the day I replaced it with all new interior driving home engine light came on I check it with my diagnostic tool and got a po767 code. unfortunately I never changed the fluid so solenoid D Is stuck open so I'll try to clean it and see what happens
Cracked dash should have been on there lol
+Ahsen Haque Thanks for the feedback!
Anyone tell you with the glasses kinda look like that guy from 13 ghosts?
Fuckin love these
2006 in good condition with 234k miles bought for 3000 bucks.
Bad Transmission, replacement 4500 bucks. Hell no!
Front bushings, replacement 2300 bucks. No way I'm already broke.
All four shocks/struts, replacement 1800 bucks. Nope!
And he said not "bad" .
How do I know this, I just recently junked my 2006 because of these not so "bad" issues.
Drove it for 3 months before all the issues happen.
Learn how to work on cars yourself. Front contril arms are 120 bucks i can do them at home in an hour
Well you did buy a 06 acura tl 234k. So that care was already tired
I would have had it fixed if the condition was good it's a great car
Your the person that just drive the car and think it doesn't need any maintenance lol
That's why you learn and find someone that can help you genuinely not to take your money at overpriced mechanics. These cars are STILL VERY RELIABLE, this IS NOTHING compared to other cars. I know people with 350k miles on the car, no tranny issues at all only fluid once in a while.
Question: my 2006 TL Acura speed up to 45+ steering wheel start to shakes. Could it be the wheel or something else?
it could be your rack & pinion, could be your axles and or lower control arms or upper control arms and or your wheel bearings and lastly lower ball joints...you need to inspect all of those components to see what is causing those vibrations
Alignment
My headlight just went out yesterday lol
Dudddeeee same
What do these use a D2S hid replacement?
The six sense problem is lacking money 4 repairs
Man I got like 50 billion things on my car that I gotta fix. I’m sticking gum into a leaking dam!
The dashboard of my 2005 tl (87,000 miles) has so many cracks, it looks like it was hit by an earthquake....otherwise the car has been a delight.
+Cernuous Thanks for the feedback!
That car’s tires are leaning like mine after some idiot hit and ran on it
Looks like that one has a oil leak
He said Transmission and that is the moment.... I knew.... I didn't want to get F'd up...I am looking at a car now and it has 300K miles on it and its 600 dollars.... I know that transmission is gone if its a top 5... also the engine will need to be rebuilt or a remanufactured one placed in.... Great cars after spending 10 - 15K dollars on all the work needed for a 300K mile version... LOL.
07 Pearl white base ( Becky)😬
These are issues with any old Japanese car.. not tl specific.
All that oil. They have to smell it burning especiallyI if you sit in traffic.
Acura tl type s going into limp mode
Typically the trans go bad because ppl avoid maintenance and listen to garbage mechanics. D4 is a sensor 🤦🤦 . If not changed it'll cause damage in the trans . They are all serviceable and no fluid is lifetime. A solenoid cel code and other sensor issues mechanic shops say trans is going bad . All Honda automatic transmission (not cvt) are manual transmissions with a different case with pressure switches/solenoid . And those are facts not opinions. Idle air control valve is typically an adjustment inside the valve... There is a wax plunger that can be adjusted . Alot of the time transmission failure is do to no maintenance wrong maintenance and bad mechanics searching for a pay day or a free car . I've delt with hundreds of these cases . The biggest issue with tls are the dash cracking from sun or the wrong cleaning products. Don't let them dry up and they don't crack ..... And never use armour all junk products
30 secs in u let me know that im cooked thanks
The trans in that car is horrible
HELP PLEASE
2 Corinthians 11:11-12-13-14-15
Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.
But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Naaa 250k nothing to do
And they say Honda don’t make bad cars 😂😂🤣
They make alot of bad cars, these things have horrible trannys.
They don't if you got this the newest model is 14 years what more do u want I got an 05 nothing ever happened to it except oil changes
I have one of these with a manual transmission and it is bullet proof! Great car
paid $3,400 for a 06 had to rebuild the transmission a month later for $3,000 rough
@@nipples727 what mileage did you buy it at?
These things have the worst transmissions ever. Dont buy one.
*ATs. my 6MT is bullet proof!
Acura tl type s going into limp mode
2 Corinthians 11:11-12-13-14-15
Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.
But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.