Pakistan Stands One Step Closer to the Brink

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Ayyaz Malick about the ongoing crises in Pakistan and where he sees things going. Dr. Malick is a university lecturer, with research interests in Marxist and post-/anti-colonial theory.
    He has recently written a must-read essay on the ongoing crisis which can be read at the link below.
    jacobin.com/2023/05/imran-kha...
    Tweet on military lands for agriculture - Benazir_Shah/stat...
    Previous discussion with Ayyaz - • Imran Khan and the Rea...
    Chapters:
    0:00 Introduction
    1:40 Framework for understanding the crises
    17:20 Shifting alliances and the importance of May 9
    33:00 Why are PTI leaders leaving so quickly?
    55:23 Role of the PDM parties in this and future scenarios
    1:19:25 Can a savior like Khan save Pakistan?
    Reading Recommendations:
    - Antonio Gramsci - On the Southern Question (for understanding hegemony and how ruling classes rule)
    - Aijaz Ahmad - Lineages of the Present (for understanding Bonapartism, Bhuttoism, and fascism in South Asian politics)
    - Gyorgy Lukacs, History and Class Consciousness (for understanding structural blindness of ruling classes i.e. why elites cannot reform themselves)

КОМЕНТАРІ • 122

  • @NamanSachdeva12
    @NamanSachdeva12 Рік тому +48

    "PTI right wing hai but vo Fascist nai hai" vo "RSS aur Modi nai hai". Man the knowledge of India that even the pakistani intellectuals have is so low. It is actually shocking. Well, your loss guys

    • @rupesharma
      @rupesharma Рік тому

      Balanced minded pakistani are getting all knowledge about India from so called old intellectual. They are largely misinformed and are lazy to find neutral ground.
      I am getting more or better view of Pakistan while watching these podcasts.
      Hope they do a better job on commenting India, currently they are getting all view from Ndtv kind.

    • @bhaveshkanani3580
      @bhaveshkanani3580 Рік тому +4

      Bingo. That also tells us that controlling the narrative is need of the hour.

    • @shsfehyr
      @shsfehyr Рік тому +6

      Tbf they don’t know about grassroots Pakistani politics either. They’d know more about the feelings of a voter in Washington or nyc than in the subcontinent

    • @merebaap8370
      @merebaap8370 Рік тому +2

      Well whether Imran or Modi both are fascists. To that extent his views seems to be biased.

    • @bobbyaxelrod3242
      @bobbyaxelrod3242 Рік тому +3

      Mashaallah se these podcasts give me such a great sarcastoc pleasure.. may pakistan keep on getting these type of jaahils always and give us moments if laugh.. AAMEEN 🤲🏽🤲🏽

  • @kalpeshchavda1504
    @kalpeshchavda1504 Рік тому +31

    Why is it difficult for Pakistani to discuss their internal politics without condescending references to Indian Party? BJP isn't fighting any election in Pakistan; I don't know what point Ayaaz was trying to make by certifying BJP.

    • @Vipul383
      @Vipul383 Рік тому +5

      Sour grapes😅

    • @userre85
      @userre85 Рік тому +1

      Timestamp?

    • @kalpeshchavda1504
      @kalpeshchavda1504 Рік тому

      @@userre85 55:47

    • @youthink5552
      @youthink5552 Рік тому

      Hindu hatred is the basis of Pakistani existence. They have no self respect and find abusing Hindus a way of self aggrandising

    • @vsukhani
      @vsukhani Рік тому +4

      They just can't help hiding the shallowness and the hollowness of their understanding of the situation. Desh hi jhoot aur fareb aur blackmail ke buniyaad par bana tha....no wonder you get this kind of output. Garbage in...Garbage out.

  • @98akv
    @98akv Рік тому +10

    “PTI right wing hai but vo fascist nai hai“ “vo rss aur modi Nahi hai”… both these Pakistani “intellectuals” are indication that this disease runs deep in Pakistan, and there is no hope for Pakistan.. don’t be fooled by the English speaking sauve Pakistani quoting western symbolisms.. their Hindu hatred matches the labbaiks..

    • @bobbyaxelrod3242
      @bobbyaxelrod3242 Рік тому

      Mashaallah se these podcasts give me such a great sarcastoc pleasure.. may pakistan keep on getting these type of jaahils always and give us moments if laugh.. AAMEEN 🤲🏽🤲🏽

  • @sandeepchhetri2346
    @sandeepchhetri2346 Рік тому +5

    Youths of islamic republic of Pakistan talking about hindutva, democracy and tolerancr blah blah.waah wah re beta waah.

    • @bobbyaxelrod3242
      @bobbyaxelrod3242 Рік тому

      Mashaallah se these podcasts give me such a great sarcastoc pleasure.. may pakistan keep on getting these type of jaahils always and give us moments if laugh.. AAMEEN 🤲🏽🤲🏽

  • @navinsardana5480
    @navinsardana5480 Рік тому +5

    Greetings from New Delhi....If you look at the Google meaning of fascism Modi is far from being fascist. He may be authoritarian which has turned out to be good for the country. Again Dr Ayyaz says PTI is not like BJP/Hindutva....Can Dr Aayaz explain what Riyasat e Medina is all about. Thanks.

    • @neilmichael2676
      @neilmichael2676 Рік тому +1

      Greetings from Mumbai...as a student of history, I can confirm for you that 'Authoritarianism' is core to the concept of 'Fascism'.

  • @bobohorns1730
    @bobohorns1730 Рік тому +32

    "woh facist nahi hai, modi nahi hai, hindutva nahi hai' - bro Tera pura country facist hai, every institution, every leader, every social group.
    Itna easily facist-vascit use kar lete ho na for a leader, party and ideology - which got defeated hands down in Delhi, WB, Karnataka and accepted the verdict and is working as an opposition.
    Read more about Indian and you will realise your limitatinos to understand any ideology apart from radical religious national identity.
    Free advice, India is not a country of 4 states, 1 ethnic , 1 ideology and 1 institution domination. The way most pakistanis speak about a party which gets majority of vote share from all sections - poor, middle class, rich - urban - rural, tribal, dalits, backwards, OBCs, farmer - worker - hard right - hard left.
    Only place where it falters miserably is muslim vote, even gets decent 20-35% christian votes.
    So no muslim vote = facist?

    • @vinsin328
      @vinsin328 Рік тому

      Just think his level of thinking, anyone asking Muslim not to do forced conversion and break temples are fascists? Just imagine kind of hatredness he has for non-Muslims.

    • @dnapolren
      @dnapolren Рік тому +1

      I have commented the same

    • @dodiraj1
      @dodiraj1 Рік тому +3

      Modi regularly loses in the Courts also. Modi has not brought in any discriminatory law. But they keep on repeating the mantra that Modi is fascist. A casual research would show that Modi is anything but fascist. Sometimes one feels that Modi becomes 5% of a fascist that they make him out to be.

    • @abhaypatel4292
      @abhaypatel4292 Рік тому

      Supereme court is still supreme...civil supremacy and civil will is still intact.. don't know where they churn out this makkhan modi is facist

    • @sidjain999
      @sidjain999 Рік тому

      Lol right wingers are upset since Modi is courting some sections of Muslims here and even introduced new scholarships when he was elected , Modi is anything but fascist

  • @bobbyaxelrod3242
    @bobbyaxelrod3242 Рік тому +6

    Mashaallah se these podcasts give me such a great sarcastic pleasure.. may pakistan keep on getting these type of jaahils always and give us moments of laugh.. AAMEEN 🤲🏽🤲🏽

  • @dnapolren
    @dnapolren Рік тому +9

    Please explain how is that every intellectual of Pakistani origin, turns not so smart as they reach BJP and Modi.. just say fascist! Incorrigible

    • @animatorzohaib
      @animatorzohaib Рік тому

      well being a insider you are biased and cant see clearly, your judgment is fogged. People watching from out side clearly see fascism which you cant fathom, so in this case you are more incorrigible

    • @nitishkumar-kc5hv
      @nitishkumar-kc5hv Рік тому +6

      @@animatorzohaib so thats y u guys are importing leader from london ,so that they are not biased ,keep your non fascist leader .

    • @animatorzohaib
      @animatorzohaib Рік тому

      @@nitishkumar-kc5hv Well let me tell you a thing about Pakistan and its leaders. Our leaders imported or otherwise are morons, our stat is fascist, what do you think is the reason pakistan in a shit storm of crisis, its the amalgamation of stupidity of 75 years unfolding. You can bad mouth our leaders as much as you want I will not be offended but will join you.

    • @abhaypatel4292
      @abhaypatel4292 Рік тому

      @@animatorzohaib even with neutral mindset.. people can find tens of things to say how facism is not in Indian political landscape..does the facist elements exist yup..they exist in both major religion in india however the same goes to fact about white supremacist in America...
      The thing is if these radical elements side with one party or another as they themselves are part of democracy doesn't make entire party facist..
      White supremacist voting for Trump doesn't make Republicans facist or onright supremacist...
      Facism is dealth when a majority of the system along with different groups believing that..and that doesn't exist in India and neither will be..
      We are over a billion and even with 1% of these populations..things can make a lot of noise..
      So shut up in your arguments dear cos you simply can't back up proving them to be facist in indian political landscape

    • @bobbyaxelrod3242
      @bobbyaxelrod3242 Рік тому

      Mashaallah se these podcasts give me such a great sarcastoc pleasure.. may pakistan keep on getting these type of jaahils always and give us moments if laugh.. AAMEEN 🤲🏽🤲🏽

  • @reginajagelaviciene
    @reginajagelaviciene Рік тому +3

    Any Pakistani podcast or video cast, whatever its topic, even one on food and cooking, has to begin by saying, "Repeat after me, BJP and Modi are fascist" 😄 I think pretty soon they will change their inaugural nonsensical "Bismillah-o-Rahman-e-Raheem" to: "Bismillah-o-Rahman-e-Raheem, and also, BJP and Modi are fascist" 😅

  • @reginajagelaviciene
    @reginajagelaviciene Рік тому +7

    This host is a living example of the saying, "You can take a Pakistani out of Pakistan, but you can't take the Pakistani jahaalat out of a Pakistani" 😄

  • @saeedayasmeen6597
    @saeedayasmeen6597 Рік тому

    اردو میں جو لوگ بولتے ہیں ان کی بہت سمجھ اتی ہے پوری بات جیسے ساجد امین کا پوڈکاسٹ بہت زبردست تھا اور ان کا بھی بہت اچھے سے بات سمجھ ائی ۔۔

  • @bobobobo3142
    @bobobobo3142 Рік тому +3

    Ayyaz looks like younger version of Asim Munir

  • @pakexlusive7890
    @pakexlusive7890 Рік тому +2

    I don't think pmln faced similar reaction in 2018 , at least when they got the bail, they were released. In case of pti , everything is open, there is no hope in the legal system. The only way to get out of jail is to press conference
    *This is my opinion, i can be wrong 😃

    • @Pakistonomy
      @Pakistonomy  Рік тому +2

      You may want to see how long the bail was denied to PMLN and also how many left the party and under what conditions at that time.

  • @mshabir917
    @mshabir917 Рік тому +1

    Books recommendations missed!!😐

  • @atanumandal3586
    @atanumandal3586 Рік тому +1

    Pakistan's *fool-proof Economic* Strategy:-
    1. Pakistan's *Plan A* - Amriki Gulaami
    2. Pakistan's *Plan B* - Chini Gulaami

  • @zzzrrr333
    @zzzrrr333 Рік тому

    Amazing podcast... amazing analysis and very well structured questions as always. Great work Uzair.. your doing a great service. and Dr Ayyaz should start his own youtube channel as well, his views should be heard and spread. Thank you and goodluck!

  • @MadM0nkey
    @MadM0nkey Рік тому +3

    Fascist BJP will take ALL indians to greater prosperity..... Non fascist Imraan will use NAB to jail/hang/ exile Sharifs and zardaris, disappear PTM leaders and target journalists....while taking his country to the cleaners

  • @usaammaa
    @usaammaa Рік тому

    what does it mean that "central punjab my methai nhi baty gi"?

    • @Pakistonomy
      @Pakistonomy  Рік тому +2

      In the past when martial law was declared central Punjab would celebrate

    • @usaammaa
      @usaammaa Рік тому

      @@Pakistonomy what exactly falls under "central punjab"

    • @bobobobo3142
      @bobobobo3142 Рік тому +1

      @@usaammaa
      Faisalabad Division
      Gujranwala Division
      Gujrat Division
      Lahore Division
      Mianwali Division
      Rawalpindi Division
      Sahiwal Division
      Sargodha Division

    • @reginajagelaviciene
      @reginajagelaviciene Рік тому +1

      @@Pakistonomy When martial law was "declared" or imposed? Because some folks are "declaring" that even now, martial law has been effectively imposed under the guise of a civilian government.

  • @ahmedmustafahaq
    @ahmedmustafahaq Рік тому +5

    When the episode started honestly thought u were interviewing Sunil Shetty 😊

    • @bobbyaxelrod3242
      @bobbyaxelrod3242 Рік тому

      Mashaallah se these podcasts give me such a great sarcastoc pleasure.. may pakistan keep on getting these type of jaahils always and give us moments if laugh.. AAMEEN 🤲🏽🤲🏽

  • @ahhmadfarooq4619
    @ahhmadfarooq4619 Рік тому

    Loved your podcast. Depressing though.

  • @user-rh5jp2sh4s
    @user-rh5jp2sh4s Рік тому

    Well yesterday we stood at the brink today we are a step further...

  • @faryaljooma5347
    @faryaljooma5347 Рік тому

    Excellent podcast. Thank you. Ayaz is so very impressive. Thank you Uzair!

  • @rockstarofrockstar
    @rockstarofrockstar Рік тому +3

    little too heavy with Urdu. Uzair please understand that a huge number of viewers of your talks are from different regions. Please try to bring in English more in the convo. This is just an honest ask. I hope you consider.

    • @bobbyaxelrod3242
      @bobbyaxelrod3242 Рік тому

      Mashaallah se these podcasts give me such a great sarcastoc pleasure.. may pakistan keep on getting these type of jaahils always and give us moments if laugh.. AAMEEN 🤲🏽🤲🏽

  • @usmangulkhan4710
    @usmangulkhan4710 Рік тому

    So knowledgeable and much informative podcast with true facts and figures
    Thanks for making Mr Uzair
    Dr Ayyaz are you back in Oxford ? love to see you again.. best wishes

    • @reginajagelaviciene
      @reginajagelaviciene Рік тому +1

      The same Oxford that produced Imran Khan and Billawal Bhutto, among other ignoramuses.

  • @debanjanbanerjee2009
    @debanjanbanerjee2009 Рік тому

    I respect your intellect a lot Uzair. It is depressing to see educated overseas Pakistani like Maleeka and Shirin leave politics. Will PTI collapse bring greater depression and Depolitication of the Pakistani professional classes?

    • @bobbyaxelrod3242
      @bobbyaxelrod3242 Рік тому

      Mashaallah se these podcasts give me such a great sarcastoc pleasure.. may pakistan keep on getting these type of jaahils always and give us moments if laugh.. AAMEEN 🤲🏽🤲🏽

  • @msg656
    @msg656 Рік тому

    Why can't you talk about curtailing govt administrative expenses which is annually eating up 60 percent from our budget allocation. State functionaries are hostile towards people and these baaboos take all the sarkari benefits from tax payers money. These sarkari people are a heavy burden.

  • @yasirism4953
    @yasirism4953 Рік тому

    Meri batain croron ki hain aur dukan pakoray ki !!

  • @azhmbb
    @azhmbb Рік тому +2

    Lol Uzair apna bias aap saamne le hi aaye tum as usual

  • @PremKumar-sb1br
    @PremKumar-sb1br Рік тому

    These guys will never accept their own short comings

  • @arjunnegi9259
    @arjunnegi9259 Рік тому

    Bhai ye desh 75 saal se dobh hi raha bas ab khatam hone ka time hai
    Coming 2030 .....

  • @Vader19k8
    @Vader19k8 Рік тому

    Ek paata bhi nahi hilta pak mai bina Rss bjp k❤😅

  • @ronny383
    @ronny383 Рік тому

    Yaar itna heavy Urdu maat use karo.

  • @vitzcar6219
    @vitzcar6219 Рік тому

    Total chad

  • @rushanakhan8347
    @rushanakhan8347 Рік тому +1

    Laffazi ka samandar. Ufff. Itna fuzul podcast.

  • @agnostic1857
    @agnostic1857 Рік тому +1

    Fascist tumhari le raha hai. Maza aa raha hai?

  • @hussamulhaque8063
    @hussamulhaque8063 Рік тому

    Crux of the whole , Well Concluded.

  • @karatekid7640
    @karatekid7640 Рік тому

    Muslim and vote for Modi , don't need your propaganda to tell me what is what .😊

  • @nashvillar
    @nashvillar Рік тому

    3 unrelated points:
    1. Consider redesigning the thumbnail format.
    2. TV show recommendation: A spy among friends. On Prime.
    3. Would be interested in hearing from a Bangladeshi historian how they perceive Jinnah and Bhutto.

  • @rakadus
    @rakadus Рік тому

    Watching both the speakers and other speakers on this channel, I am left wondering how a country with such intellectual talent is in such tatters. There is something fundamental about the society and the country that all of us are missing.

    • @vinsin328
      @vinsin328 Рік тому

      Both are not Pakistani by nationality. Country is in no way in any tatters.

    • @frfrfrfrfrfrfrfrfful
      @frfrfrfrfrfrfrfrfful Рік тому

      It's not a mystery, pakistan is not a meritocracy, it's run by plutocrats.

    • @himanv
      @himanv Рік тому

      This guest is a Marxist...quoting Gramsci etc. He may be an "intellectual" but pushing radical leftist lens which has failed the world over is laughable. But I suppose adding Leftist Revolutionary ideas to the kindler so the fire runs even hotter isn't bad in the larger picture of Paxtan's future. 😅

    • @daddashikamani
      @daddashikamani Рік тому +1

      If Pakistan had made progress people would have praised Islam and said it had contributed to its success, when Pakistan is failing we should credit Islam as well.

    • @abhaypatel4292
      @abhaypatel4292 Рік тому

      Cause these intellectual can't serve the country cos the system of electing leaders is not present in last 70 years

  • @abhaygoel4090
    @abhaygoel4090 Рік тому

    too heavy urdu....could not follow

  • @Jvs-eq3iy
    @Jvs-eq3iy Рік тому

    Uzair Younus has good stuff but his guest is just repititive . Poor stuff.

  • @MuhammadUsman-nz8pv
    @MuhammadUsman-nz8pv 9 місяців тому

    I think he is too confused. He has various myths implanted in his mind and he has ring so many bells that logic looks so buried. I understand your hate for one party but for a covert strike you need better words management.

  • @jssidhoo
    @jssidhoo Рік тому

    Urdu was too difficult so stopped watching .